Teams with the most state championships

[Hoghead2]

Who won the AA Title in 1969 since there was no playoffs ? Who did the AP select Hope went 11-2 that year and was voted #2 ! Who won it Its as if the AA teams played a dead season.
AAAA LR Hall, AAA Springdale, A McGehee  all won playoff games to win their titles....

[Hootie]

Who won the AA Title in 1969 since there was no playoffs ? Who did the AP select Hope went 11-2 that year and was voted #2 ! Who won it Its as if the AA teams played a dead season.
AAAA LR Hall, AAA Springdale, A McGehee  all won playoff games to win their titles....

If it was in the Ark Democrat I can go look at UALR on the microfilms one afternoon, I think they go back to the 1900s. Do you know when this info would have been released in the paper? Or any ideas? If you have any idea of the time frame to look I'll go see what I can find. I have some downtime in the summer at work, fortunately.

[HorseFeathers]

My guess would probably be around thanksgiving

[Hoghead2]

Hope playedd its last game on Wednesday 21 Nov. 1969. They played Camden for the 4-AA Title and won 13-6. Camden won the 4-AA East Title and had just lost to Hope two weeks earlier.

4-AA West
Hope
Arkadelphia
Camden Fairview
Malvern
Camden Lincoln

4-AA East
Camden High
Warren
Crossett
Magnolia
Smackover

[Proud Buckaroo]

I forgot that Camden had three schools back then. Didn't they consolidate Camden Lincoln and Camden fairview? Then later consolidate Camden high?

[phdefense]

Who won the AA Title in 1969 since there was no playoffs ? Who did the AP select Hope went 11-2 that year and was voted #2 ! Who won it Its as if the AA teams played a dead season.
AAAA LR Hall, AAA Springdale, A McGehee  all won playoff games to win their titles....

No playoffs no champions. The AAA does not recognize "paper" champions

[HorseFeathers]

Who won the AA Title in 1969 since there was no playoffs ? Who did the AP select Hope went 11-2 that year and was voted #2 ! Who won it Its as if the AA teams played a dead season.
AAAA LR Hall, AAA Springdale, A McGehee  all won playoff games to win their titles....

No playoffs no champions. The AAA does not recognize "paper" champions

So....those champs recognized back to 1907 in the record book are imaginary?

[Proud Buckaroo]

Who won the AA Title in 1969 since there was no playoffs ? Who did the AP select Hope went 11-2 that year and was voted #2 ! Who won it Its as if the AA teams played a dead season.
AAAA LR Hall, AAA Springdale, A McGehee  all won playoff games to win their titles....

No playoffs no champions. The AAA does not recognize "paper" champions

If that's the case... Stuttgart's 1949, and 1952 "championships" are non-existent?

[Hoghead2]

I forgot that Camden had three schools back then. Didn't they consolidate Camden Lincoln and Camden fairview? Then later consolidate Camden high?

5 High Schools
Camden Panthers
Camden FVW Cardinals
Camden Lincoln Tigers
Camden Lafayette
Camden Harmony Grove
Lincoln merged with Camden High
Lafayette merged with CF
Camden HG is still open.
Camden High merged with CF

[Proud Buckaroo]

I think I remember someone telling me that Camden high was called. Camden gold or something?

[HeberFan]

AAA is only one organization. If a team was named champion by a state news organization or body before the playoff system, then that team is champion.

[Hoghead2]

I think I remember someone telling me that Camden high was called. Camden gold or something?

No, Camden High Panthers. They wore Gold & Black. That was their school colors.

[Proud Buckaroo]

I think I remember someone telling me that Camden high was called. Camden gold or something?

No, Camden High Panthers. They wore Gold & Black. That was their school colors.

That's what it was. They wore Gold. I couldn't remember.

[bulldoghistorian]

All of this stuff is interesting!

[SUGARTOWN]

AAA is only one organization. If a team was named champion by a state news organization or body before the playoff system, then that team is champion.

So if two teams were named champs by two separate newspapers there could be 2 champs for that year? I don't think so.

[Hoghead2]

Blytheville has 7 Titles, not sure how many were AP Titles ?   The AAA was formed in what year ?

[zebradynasty]

AAA is only one organization. If a team was named champion by a state news organization or body before the playoff system, then that team is champion.

So if two teams were named champs by two separate newspapers there could be 2 champs for that year? I don't think so.

Why not it happen in college football on several occasions.

[rooftops]

Who won the AA Title in 1969 since there was no playoffs ? Who did the AP select Hope went 11-2 that year and was voted #2 ! Who won it Its as if the AA teams played a dead season.
AAAA LR Hall, AAA Springdale, A McGehee  all won playoff games to win their titles....

The Newport Greyhounds were awarded the AA state championship in 1969. They also won playoff state championships in 1981 and 1991. In 1972 Newport lost to Magnolia in championship game. In 1988 and 1989 Newport lost state championship games to Dollarway and also lost semifinal game to  state champion Dollarway in 1990.

[phdefense]

Who won the AA Title in 1969 since there was no playoffs ? Who did the AP select Hope went 11-2 that year and was voted #2 ! Who won it Its as if the AA teams played a dead season.
AAAA LR Hall, AAA Springdale, A McGehee  all won playoff games to win their titles....

No playoffs no champions. The AAA does not recognize "paper" champions

If that's the case... Stuttgart's 1949, and 1952 "championships" are non-existent?

Sorry but you fail at history. There were playoffs those years.

[phdefense]

AAA is only one organization. If a team was named champion by a state news organization or body before the playoff system, then that team is champion.

Sorry, but the AAA declares who were champions and when and maintains a record book indicating such. If the AAA does not recognize the championship then it is not valid.

[Hoghead2]

Who won the AA Title in 1969 since there was no playoffs ? Who did the AP select Hope went 11-2 that year and was voted #2 ! Who won it Its as if the AA teams played a dead season.
AAAA LR Hall, AAA Springdale, A McGehee  all won playoff games to win their titles....

The Newport Greyhounds were awarded the AA state championship in 1969. They also won playoff state championships in 1981 and 1991. In 1972 Newport lost to Magnolia in championship game. In 1988 and 1989 Newport lost state championship games to Dollarway and also lost semifinal game to  state champion Dollarway in 1990.

Thanks ! I've always wondered this because the AAA didn't set up a AA playoffs that year. Why ? AAAA, AAA and A had them !  Hope finished 11-2 and ranked #2

[SUGARTOWN]

AAA is only one organization. If a team was named champion by a state news organization or body before the playoff system, then that team is champion.

So if two teams were named champs by two separate newspapers there could be 2 champs for that year? I don't think so.

Why not it happen in college football on several occasions.

That's because the NCAA doesn't recognize a Div. 1 college football champion. The AAA does. One champion per class each year.

[HorseFeathers]

Blytheville has 7 Titles, not sure how many were AP Titles ?   The AAA was formed in what year ?

AAA was formed in 1907

[cuckoobird]

Current 4A schools: McGehee 7, Shiloh 6, Stuttgart 6, Dollarway 5 according to AAA record book.

Stuttgart has 7 and Mcgehee is a current 3a school

[zebradynasty]

AAA is only one organization. If a team was named champion by a state news organization or body before the playoff system, then that team is champion.

Sorry, but the AAA declares who were champions and when and maintains a record book indicating such. If the AAA does not recognize the championship then it is not valid.

Their validity is your opinion. AAA doesn't say that it merely says it doesn't recognize championships before the playoff system was formed. No one from AAA will say they are not valid!

[SUGARTOWN]

AAA is only one organization. If a team was named champion by a state news organization or body before the playoff system, then that team is champion.

Sorry, but the AAA declares who were champions and when and maintains a record book indicating such. If the AAA does not recognize the championship then it is not valid.

Their validity is your opinion. AAA doesn't say that it merely says it doesn't recognize championships before the playoff system was formed. No one from AAA will say they are not valid!

Well if they're not listed on their site then that's a pretty good indication that they don't recognize them. But hey, go ahead and claim whatever you want if it makes you happy. Just don't expect anyone else to go along with it (except for the other paper champions).

[Hootie]

Current 4A schools: McGehee 7, Shiloh 6, Stuttgart 6, Dollarway 5 according to AAA record book.

Stuttgart has 7 and Mcgehee is a current 3a school

That post was from 2010 lol

[cuckoobird]

Current 4A schools: McGehee 7, Shiloh 6, Stuttgart 6, Dollarway 5 according to AAA record book.

Stuttgart has 7 and Mcgehee is a current 3a school

That post was from 2010 lol

haha I didn't realize

[zebradynasty]

AAA is only one organization. If a team was named champion by a state news organization or body before the playoff system, then that team is champion.

Sorry, but the AAA declares who were champions and when and maintains a record book indicating such. If the AAA does not recognize the championship then it is not valid.

Their validity is your opinion. AAA doesn't say that it merely says it doesn't recognize championships before the playoff system was formed. No one from AAA will say they are not valid!

Well if they're not listed on their site then that's a pretty good indication that they don't recognize them. But hey, go ahead and claim whatever you want if it makes you happy. Just don't expect anyone else to go along with it (except for the other paper champions).

So you have seen where AAA has said it doesn't recognize championships prior to the playoff system? Or is that what you been told?

[cuckoobird]

AAA is only one organization. If a team was named champion by a state news organization or body before the playoff system, then that team is champion.

Sorry, but the AAA declares who were champions and when and maintains a record book indicating such. If the AAA does not recognize the championship then it is not valid.

Their validity is your opinion. AAA doesn't say that it merely says it doesn't recognize championships before the playoff system was formed. No one from AAA will say they are not valid!

Well if they're not listed on their site then that's a pretty good indication that they don't recognize them. But hey, go ahead and claim whatever you want if it makes you happy. Just don't expect anyone else to go along with it (except for the other paper champions).

So you have seen where AAA has said it doesn't recognize championships prior to the playoff system? Or is that what you been told?

I've got to go with sugar on this, if they recognized them, they would be in their book and on their website

[zebradynasty]

AAA is only one organization. If a team was named champion by a state news organization or body before the playoff system, then that team is champion.

Sorry, but the AAA declares who were champions and when and maintains a record book indicating such. If the AAA does not recognize the championship then it is not valid.

Their validity is your opinion. AAA doesn't say that it merely says it doesn't recognize championships before the playoff system was formed. No one from AAA will say they are not valid!

Well if they're not listed on their site then that's a pretty good indication that they don't recognize them. But hey, go ahead and claim whatever you want if it makes you happy. Just don't expect anyone else to go along with it (except for the other paper champions).

So you have seen where AAA has said it doesn't recognize championships prior to the playoff system? Or is that what you been told?

I've got to go with sugar on this, if they recognized them, they would be in their book and on their website

Same question!

[cuckoobird]

AAA is only one organization. If a team was named champion by a state news organization or body before the playoff system, then that team is champion.

Sorry, but the AAA declares who were champions and when and maintains a record book indicating such. If the AAA does not recognize the championship then it is not valid.

Their validity is your opinion. AAA doesn't say that it merely says it doesn't recognize championships before the playoff system was formed. No one from AAA will say they are not valid!

Well if they're not listed on their site then that's a pretty good indication that they don't recognize them. But hey, go ahead and claim whatever you want if it makes you happy. Just don't expect anyone else to go along with it (except for the other paper champions).

So you have seen where AAA has said it doesn't recognize championships prior to the playoff system? Or is that what you been told?

I've got to go with sugar on this, if they recognized them, they would be in their book and on their website

Same question!

Ok let me ask you one in return, If they recognize them, why aren't they listed? All the ones we know they recognize are. It's called deductive reasoning.

Deductive reasoning is a logical process in which a conclusion is based on the concordance of multiple premises that are generally assumed to be true. Deductive reasoning is sometimes referred to as top-down logic. Its counterpart, inductive reasoning, is sometimes referred to as bottom-up logic.

[zebradynasty]

AAA is only one organization. If a team was named champion by a state news organization or body before the playoff system, then that team is champion.

Sorry, but the AAA declares who were champions and when and maintains a record book indicating such. If the AAA does not recognize the championship then it is not valid.

Their validity is your opinion. AAA doesn't say that it merely says it doesn't recognize championships before the playoff system was formed. No one from AAA will say they are not valid!

Well if they're not listed on their site then that's a pretty good indication that they don't recognize them. But hey, go ahead and claim whatever you want if it makes you happy. Just don't expect anyone else to go along with it (except for the other paper champions).

So you have seen where AAA has said it doesn't recognize championships prior to the playoff system? Or is that what you been told?

I've got to go with sugar on this, if they recognized them, they would be in their book and on their website

Same question!

Ok let me ask you one in return, If they recognize them, why aren't they listed? All the ones we know they recognize are. It's called deductive reasoning.

Deductive reasoning is a logical process in which a conclusion is based on the concordance of multiple premises that are generally assumed to be true. Deductive reasoning is sometimes referred to as top-down logic. Its counterpart, inductive reasoning, is sometimes referred to as bottom-up logic.

One last time is this what you read for yourself or are you repeating what you been told?

[zebradynasty]

Speaking of deductive reasoning wouldn't it be a logical deduction that if I keep asking you to the same question....I know/have the answer already

[SUGARTOWN]

Speaking of deductive reasoning wouldn't it be a logical deduction that if I keep asking you to the same question....I know/have the answer already

Or you're just a little slow.

[Jimbo Morphis]

AAA is only one organization. If a team was named champion by a state news organization or body before the playoff system, then that team is champion.

Sorry, but the AAA declares who were champions and when and maintains a record book indicating such. If the AAA does not recognize the championship then it is not valid.

Their validity is your opinion. AAA doesn't say that it merely says it doesn't recognize championships before the playoff system was formed. No one from AAA will say they are not valid!

Well if they're not listed on their site then that's a pretty good indication that they don't recognize them. But hey, go ahead and claim whatever you want if it makes you happy. Just don't expect anyone else to go along with it (except for the other paper champions).

So you have seen where AAA has said it doesn't recognize championships prior to the playoff system? Or is that what you been told?

I've got to go with sugar on this, if they recognized them, they would be in their book and on their website

Same question!

Ok let me ask you one in return, If they recognize them, why aren't they listed? All the ones we know they recognize are. It's called deductive reasoning.

Deductive reasoning is a logical process in which a conclusion is based on the concordance of multiple premises that are generally assumed to be true. Deductive reasoning is sometimes referred to as top-down logic. Its counterpart, inductive reasoning, is sometimes referred to as bottom-up logic.

i think bottoms up fits this thread better.

[cuckoobird]

Speaking of deductive reasoning wouldn't it be a logical deduction that if I keep asking you to the same question....I know/have the answer already

you have your opinion just like us

[SUGARTOWN]

Speaking of deductive reasoning wouldn't it be a logical deduction that if I keep asking you to the same question....I know/have the answer already

BTW, I never said they don't recognize non-playoff championships. I said that if the AAA doesn't have it listed that I don't recognize it.

[zebradynasty]

Speaking of deductive reasoning wouldn't it be a logical deduction that if I keep asking you to the same question....I know/have the answer already

Or you're just a little slow.

Yet fast enough to find out things for myself and not simply parrot what I've been told.

From the AAA Website:

http://members.ahsaa.org/public/userfiles/Media/recordbook1415.pdf

Pay close attention to the first 2-3 pages then turn your attention to page 25. * This OFFICIAL RECOGNIZED ARKANSAS SPORTS RECORD BOOK has not been updated to include the Z's 22nd Football Championship!

[SUGARTOWN]

Speaking of deductive reasoning wouldn't it be a logical deduction that if I keep asking you to the same question....I know/have the answer already

Or you're just a little slow.

Yet fast enough to find out things for myself and not simply parrot what I've been told.

From the AAA Website:

http://members.ahsaa.org/public/userfiles/Media/recordbook1415.pdf

Pay close attention to the first 2-3 pages then turn your attention to page 25. * This OFFICIAL RECOGNIZED ARKANSAS SPORTS RECORD BOOK has not been updated to include the Z's 22nd Football Championship!

Did you not read my post right above yours? I never said they didn't recognize non-playoff championships.

[zebradynasty]

Speaking of deductive reasoning wouldn't it be a logical deduction that if I keep asking you to the same question....I know/have the answer already

Or you're just a little slow.

Yet fast enough to find out things for myself and not simply parrot what I've been told.

From the AAA Website:

http://members.ahsaa.org/public/userfiles/Media/recordbook1415.pdf

Pay close attention to the first 2-3 pages then turn your attention to page 25. * This OFFICIAL RECOGNIZED ARKANSAS SPORTS RECORD BOOK has not been updated to include the Z's 22nd Football Championship!

Did you not read my post right above yours? I never said they didn't recognize non-playoff championships.

Right and I just provided you with proof the AAA DOES recognize non-playoff championships. Which proves that you never heard that they didn't at least not from AAA!

[cuckoobird]

Speaking of deductive reasoning wouldn't it be a logical deduction that if I keep asking you to the same question....I know/have the answer already

Or you're just a little slow.

Yet fast enough to find out things for myself and not simply parrot what I've been told.

From the AAA Website:

http://members.ahsaa.org/public/userfiles/Media/recordbook1415.pdf

Pay close attention to the first 2-3 pages then turn your attention to page 25. * This OFFICIAL RECOGNIZED ARKANSAS SPORTS RECORD BOOK has not been updated to include the Z's 22nd Football Championship!

Well, they still have Stuttgart's wrong. We have 7 with a playoff and 9 counting paper champions. According to oldman, Mcgehee's is wrong too. They have 8 with a playoff. So, what are we supposed to believe. BTW I'm sure there are more errors that haven't been brought to light yet

[SUGARTOWN]

Speaking of deductive reasoning wouldn't it be a logical deduction that if I keep asking you to the same question....I know/have the answer already

Or you're just a little slow.

Yet fast enough to find out things for myself and not simply parrot what I've been told.

From the AAA Website:

http://members.ahsaa.org/public/userfiles/Media/recordbook1415.pdf

Pay close attention to the first 2-3 pages then turn your attention to page 25. * This OFFICIAL RECOGNIZED ARKANSAS SPORTS RECORD BOOK has not been updated to include the Z's 22nd Football Championship!

Did you not read my post right above yours? I never said they didn't recognize non-playoff championships.

Right and I just provided you with proof the AAA DOES recognize non-playoff championships. Which proves that you never heard that they didn't at least not from AAA!

What is it that you're not understanding? For the 3RD TIME, I NEVER said that they don't recognize non-playoff championships nor have I ever heard that. You're arguing with the wrong person dude.

[zebradynasty]

Speaking of deductive reasoning wouldn't it be a logical deduction that if I keep asking you to the same question....I know/have the answer already

Or you're just a little slow.

Yet fast enough to find out things for myself and not simply parrot what I've been told.

From the AAA Website:

http://members.ahsaa.org/public/userfiles/Media/recordbook1415.pdf

Pay close attention to the first 2-3 pages then turn your attention to page 25. * This OFFICIAL RECOGNIZED ARKANSAS SPORTS RECORD BOOK has not been updated to include the Z's 22nd Football Championship!

Well, they still have Stuttgart's wrong. We have 7 with a playoff and 9 counting paper champions. According to oldman, Mcgehee's is wrong too. They have 8 with a playoff. So, what are we supposed to believe. BTW I'm sure there are more errors that haven't been brought to light yet

Well according to the record book all someone has to do is complete the form and provide documentation to prove the record.

[FBfan79]

Who are the top teams since 2000? Not just championships...

[Hootie]

Who are the top teams since 2000? Not just championships...

Shiloh Christian, Warren, Nashville, Stuttgart, Dollarway, are the first few that come to mind. Stuttgart has been down the past 2 years but they were consistently good in the 2000s and won it all in 2012... And well Dollarway is good when they're not breaking the rules.

[LJ06]

Who are the top teams since 2000? Not just championships...

Shiloh Christian, Warren, Nashville, Stuttgart, Dollarway, are the first few that come to mind. Stuttgart has been down the past 2 years but they were consistently good in the 2000s and won it all in 2012... And well Dollarway is good when they're not breaking the rules.

One of these is not like the others...no titles for Dway

[HeberFan]

Everyone gets a trophy !

[cuckoobird]

Everyone gets a trophy !

except Heber

[HeberFan]

Heber has earned trophies, thank you very much