I have a quick time killing experiment to help bridge us to summer practice, it's right around the corner. If your team moved up or down in classification only use their 5A record. It will be fun to see who has been the consistent Top 10 teams since 2000 ? Obviously PA will take the top spot but who will be 2, 3 and so on ? I'm betting Batesville, Wynne or Camden Fairview will land in the next few spots. Almatrackster, tmycjy or Air Warren can fill in a lot of blanks.
Since 2000 Batesville is 169 - 54 - 2. That's a 17 year average of 9.9 wins and 3.2 losses a year. Is that good enough for the 2nd spot ?
One of the stat whizzes will look it up, but I bet you're right- it's Batesville.
Quote from: JessieP on July 18, 2018, 08:36:30 pm
I have a quick time killing experiment to help bridge us to summer practice, it's right around the corner. If your team moved up or down in classification only use their 5A record. It will be fun to see who has been the consistent Top 10 teams since 2000 ? Obviously PA will take the top spot but who will be 2, 3 and so on ? I'm betting Batesville, Wynne or Camden Fairview will land in the next few spots. Almatrackster, tmycjy or Air Warren can fill in a lot of blanks.
Since 2000 Batesville is 169 - 54 - 2. That's a 17 year average of 9.9 wins and 3.2 losses a year. Is that good enough for the 2nd spot ?
Camden Fairview 133-67
PA 130-16
Batesville is 101-38
Wynne 96-47
Quote from: #1 Hog fan on July 18, 2018, 10:00:59 pm
Camden Fairview 133-67
PA 130-16
Batesville is 101-38
Wynne 96-47
Re-check your numbers. I included playoffs, Batesville's numbers are taken from the schools archives. According to your numbers CF plays 11 games a year, PA playes 8, Batesville plays 8, Wynne plays 8. Time to change the batteries in the calculator. CF has more wins than PA ? Good luck trying to sell that one.
Quote from: JessieP on July 18, 2018, 10:07:44 pm
Re-check your numbers. I included playoffs, Batesville's numbers are taken from the schools archives. According to your numbers CF plays 11 games a year, PA playes 8, Batesville plays 8, Wynne plays 8. Time to change the batteries in the calculator. CF has more wins than PA ? Good luck trying to sell that one.
PA, Batesville, and Wynne haven't always been 5A so....
Camden Fairview 133-67*
PA 130-16*
Batesville 111-37*
Wynne 96-47
Think I was a little off is that better?
Starting in 2001
I'm not getting how CF has played 200 games and the others have played 140ish in the same time period.
Quote from: The_Pioneer on July 19, 2018, 06:19:02 am
I'm not getting how CF has played 200 games and the others have played 140ish in the same time period.
Camden has been in the 5A since 2001 and the rest haven't. The others have been in the 3A or the 4A.
Camden Fairview Conference Changes over the years...
5A South 2001-2005
5A Southwest 2006-2011
5A South 2012-Current
Pulaski Academy Conference Changes over the years...
3A-5 2001
3A-6 2002-2005
5A Southeast 2006-2009
4A-7 2010-2011
5A 2012-Current
Batesville Conference Changes over the years..
4A East 2001-2005
5A East 2006-Current
Wynne Conference Changes over the years...
4A East 2001-2005
5A East 2006-Current
CF living in the past!! Congrats on winning the touch football 7 on 7 in Eldorado!! 5A State Champs
Wait, are you wanting to use the 4A from 2000-2005 and then 5A from 2006-Present for this?
The 4A from 2000-2005 (and before) is considered the 5A now for record purposes, etc.
Quote from: Hogman2018 on July 19, 2018, 07:44:49 am
CF living in the past!! Congrats on winning the touch football 7 on 7 in Eldorado!! 5A State Champs
Haters gonna hate... ;D ...We're on our way back. And your team is?
Quote from: Youngsta71701 on July 19, 2018, 08:46:44 am
Haters gonna hate... ;D ...We're on our way back. And your team is?
I dont have to hate! We won a couple of championships our selves! We will beat yall again this year for the third time in a row! Texarkana Razorbacks
Quote from: Hogman2018 on July 19, 2018, 09:13:06 am
I dont have to hate! We won a couple of championships our selves! We will beat yall again this year for the third time in a row! Texarkana Razorbacks
Lol, ok I get it now. We're in the same conference now. Then let the fun begin. Y'all might beat us again this year but I can see our future getting brighter slowly but surely under Coach Monden. Good luck to you guys and see ya soon.
You too I actually like alot of the CF coaches!! I was just having fun
Back in the old 5A South days CF was a distant rival to Arkansas High behind El Dorado and Pine Bluff.
Quote from: Almatrackster on July 19, 2018, 08:41:30 am
Wait, are you wanting to use the 4A from 2000-2005 and then 5A from 2006-Present for this?
The 4A from 2000-2005 (and before) is considered the 5A now for record purposes, etc.
Thank you Almatrackster, I was hoping you would show up. That was my point, the classifications as well as the schools. That was why I went back to 2000. I still use my initial Batesville numbers because the 4A in 2000 grew up to be the 5A.
This could get really involved. I would factor in 3rd round games played. State titles and runner-up finishes. Big increase in points for winning State.
Those factors just might nudge Wynne for the 2 spot on the list of best 5A teams 2000-2017.
GW would be near or at the top in winning percentage since they were in 4A which became the 5A of today from 2000-2011 with 6 titles in there as well in that span...Pretty sure their average wins in the 12 year stretch there would be 10+ something and average losses would be 2+ something, I believe. I can't remember exact record in 2000 I only recall the loss to NS to open the year.
It would be an even higher %, if you added in what they did once they moved to 6A (against a lot of 7A competition in the blended conferences). Something like 70 wins and 8 losses in 6 years in 6A (with 5 of those losses all coming in 2014), plus 2 more titles there.
Just think, GW may even wind up back there in the 5A next cycle.
Carry on....
yes if Greenwood wants in this topic all teams might as well move down a spot.
Here wynne for the pass 17 years
Under Don Campbell
2000 to 2006
12-1
11-2-1
10-2
9-3
12-2
9-3-1
10-3
For a total of 73-16-2
Ray Shimpert
2007 to 2010
2-8
3-8
5-5
5-5
For a total of 15-26
Chris Hill and Van Paskel
Chris Hill 2011 to 2016
Van paskel 2017
9-3
12-1
9-3
12-2
7-5
13-1
11-2
For a total of 73-17
For a over all total of 161-59-2
Quote from: walkingguy72396 on July 19, 2018, 11:52:58 am
yes if Greenwood wants in this topic all teams might as well move down a spot.
No doubt...lol
Quote from: AHS06 on July 19, 2018, 10:21:18 am
Back in the old 5A South days CF was a distant rival to Arkansas High behind El Dorado and Pine Bluff.
Dude going through that conference was heck. Like the SEC West nowadays. lol
Quote from: Youngsta71701 on July 19, 2018, 07:17:44 am
Camden Fairview Conference Changes over the years...
5A South 2001-2005
5A Southwest 2006-2011
5A South 2012-Current
Pulaski Academy Conference Changes over the years...
3A-5 2001
3A-6 2002-2005
5A Southeast 2006-2009
4A-7 2010-2011
5A 2012-Current
Batesville Conference Changes over the years..
4A East 2001-2005
5A East 2006-Current
Wynne Conference Changes over the years...
4A East 2001-2005
5A East 2006-Current
Not sure who wins it on the stats, but some of the best high school football games I have seen in the last 20 years were between the teams mentioned above, absolute dogfights between Batesville and Wynne over the years. I would come out of those games exhausted, so many ups and downs thru 4 quarters of smash mouth football at its finest.
Quote from: tmycjy on July 19, 2018, 12:27:02 pm
Here wynne for the pass 17 years
Under Don Campbell
2000 to 2006
12-1
11-2-1
10-2
9-3
12-2
9-3-1
10-3
For a total of 73-16-2
Ray Shimpert
2007 to 2010
2-8
3-8
5-5
5-5
For a total of 15-26
Chris Hill and Van Paskel
Chris Hill 2011 to 2016
Van paskel 2017
9-3
12-1
9-3
12-2
7-5
13-1
11-2
For a total of 73-17
For a over all total of 161-59-2
I was waiting for you to check in. This is in your wheelhouse tmycjy, stats, records and rankings. Ok coach, do your stuff. Kudos to our resident prediction expert/stat wiz.
Wynne
Who has won the most rings?
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Over the years warren has played its fair share of 5A teams. I would say since 1998, around the time I started really keeping up with high school ball, the top teams would be:
No particular order.
1. Wynne.
2. Batesville.
3. Pulaski academy.
4. Alma.
5. Camden FV.
Now this is teams that were once 4a now considered to be 5a. I was an 8th grader in 1998. Warren was playing teams like Alma back then and wynne. But Warren was just waking up as a state title team around that time.
Couple of others that have been good 5A teams. No particular order.
1. LR MCCLELLAN of recent.
2. Monticello. 2009 team was one of the best in the state regardless of class.
3. Helena West Helena(Darius Winston years).
I was curious of what teams, former 5A and currently 5A, had at least one undefeated season and what was the year(s)? I think Greenwood and Pulaski Academy are two. I believe that Harrison had one in 1999.
Quote from: Go Postal on August 13, 2018, 12:23:24 pm
I was curious of what teams, former 5A and currently 5A, had at least one undefeated season and what was the year(s)? I think Greenwood and Pulaski Academy are two. I believe that Harrison had one in 1999.
Greenwood....not sure how I forgot them. Haha.
Quote from: Go Postal on August 13, 2018, 12:23:24 pm
I was curious of what teams, former 5A and currently 5A, had at least one undefeated season and what was the year(s)? I think Greenwood and Pulaski Academy are two. I believe that Harrison had one in 1999.
This may be a "close, but no cigar" situation but Batesville was 12-0-1 in 2004. They tied Searcy on a missed PAT.
Quote from: Go Postal on August 13, 2018, 12:23:24 pm
I was curious of what teams, former 5A and currently 5A, had at least one undefeated season and what was the year(s)? I think Greenwood and Pulaski Academy are two. I believe that Harrison had one in 1999.
Did Shiloh Christian have one also?
Quote from: Go Postal on August 13, 2018, 12:23:24 pm
I was curious of what teams, former 5A and currently 5A, had at least one undefeated season and what was the year(s)? I think Greenwood and Pulaski Academy are two. I believe that Harrison had one in 1999.
Camden Fairview, 14-0 in 2012. Closest game was an 8 point win over Watson Chapel.
Quote from: Go Postal on August 13, 2018, 12:23:24 pm
I was curious of what teams, former 5A and currently 5A, had at least one undefeated season and what was the year(s)? I think Greenwood and Pulaski Academy are two. I believe that Harrison had one in 1999.
Monti in 2009