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Best Tradition in the 3A

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WPWells

Time for offseason topics. Two teams come to mind for me on this one:

Charleston (past 20-30 years)
Barton (everyone knows about their dynasty)

Clara Allen

December 14, 2014, 10:11:22 am #1 Last Edit: December 14, 2014, 10:13:13 am by warriorsforever2

When Nashville and Warren were 3A,  they had some impressive years- still do.
Harding Academy in the last eight-ten years.

WPWells


Clara Allen


Curleywolf Fan

December 14, 2014, 11:03:59 am #4 Last Edit: December 14, 2014, 11:27:31 am by Curleywolf Fan
You have to have Prescott in there.17 semifinals and has played in 9 state championship games winning 4 of them. Prescott has played in a state championship game every decade since 1970 when they played in their first state championship game. From 1970 thru 1976 they played in 5 state championship games in 7 years winning 3 times. Prescott has been a force since the playoffs started in 1969. Not to many teams can say that. So lets recap. In the 70's state champs 3 and state runners up 2. In the 80' state runners up 1 and the semis 2. In the 90's state champs 1 and the semis 2. In the 2000's State runners up 2 and the semis 2.  In 2012 and 13 the semis. A  whole lot of tradition if you ask me.

-Painted Fan-

Charleston has played after Thanksgiving 12 of the past 15 years, played in the Semifinals 9 of the past 15 years, and State Championship Game 6 of the past 11 years- winning 5 of the past 10 (3 of the past 4).

whippersnapper

Newport has to be in the discussion. 28 straight years of playoffs and 35 of the last 36. May not always be the best but have done what they needed to keep the streak going.

war cardinals

Its changed so much over the yrs i remember when it only went up to AAAA Camden fairview was 3A

war cardinals

Lots of teams have flip flopped through the years with great traditions a few are Bauxite Carlisle of the mid 90s Camden panthers 80's,Rison 90s Frank McClellans mighty Barton Bears, Murfreesboro had some good teams,Shiloh Christian, Prescott,PB Dollarway Newport Malvern with Hill at running back these are some teams from the past that had good traditions i prolly left some out so I'm gonna stop i knw theirs more..

war cardinals

Newport had a big Running Back from early 90S called Bubba Philips

Big Red

December 15, 2014, 12:07:02 am #10 Last Edit: December 15, 2014, 12:17:53 am by Big Red
In last ten years, football only, Charleston, Harding Academy, Fountain Lake (I know they are 4A now) and Prescott (with Glen Rose as an "honorable mention.")  Historically, Barton.  They had those troubles with their program after the great run, but Im glad to see them back and playing with the Barton pride.  And historically, I would still include Charleston, Harding Academy, and Prescott but would put them each behind Barton.  I know this is 2A, but when is Junction City's streak going to end?  Maybe never (LOL).

Cheek


WPWells

Here's a question:

Charleston has won state championships 5 out of the last 10 years. What other schools have had a similar run?

Wolfpack68

Quote from: 12th Man CHS on December 15, 2014, 06:54:48 am
Here's a question:

Charleston has won state championships 5 out of the last 10 years. What other schools have had a similar run?
They're not in the 3A, but Junction City.

Longfellow

Besides junction, I can only think of greenwood with 6 of the last 10 and el dorado

snoopy22

Prescott Curley Wolves.  Most consistent winner in modern playoff era.  From 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, and 2010s.  Always in the mix, very few down years, and lots of great years.  Obviously there are other schools with great arguments as well.  I'm just glad my team is one that can be in the argument!!  lol

Longfellow

Two Rivers has a great tradition of being terrible, then every 7 or 8 years they win 6 or so games and make the playoffs. I'm just glad I was a part of that team last year

DogsWin7

Quote from: snoopy22 on December 15, 2014, 08:23:42 am
Prescott Curley Wolves.  Most consistent winner in modern playoff era.  From 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, and 2010s.  Always in the mix, very few down years, and lots of great years.  Obviously there are other schools with great arguments as well.  I'm just glad my team is one that can be in the argument!!  lol
That's because you like to argue.:)   I'm ready for next year....I have promise to keep. 

Hootie

80s and 90s McGehee, Dollarway, Fordyce, and Prescott.
2000s Charleston, Greenwood, El Dorado, Shiloh, Junction City

Consistently Winning Programs last 50 years : Pine Bluff, Little Rock Central, Junction City, Barton, Prescott, Dollarway.

My opinion... Open for a lot of debate  ;D

elmerfudd

Booneville had 5 or 6 state championship appearances from '78 through the late 80's, winning one of them in '86 (that was before my time, so I don't know the exact numbers).

In the late 90's-early 2000's Booneville had 5 ( I think) straight semifinal appearances, two state championship appearances, and one more state title.

YC



Here is some numbers for the last 15 years (2000 thru 2014) for some of the teams mentioned in this topic and a couple that have not.

3A
Charleston
177-20-1 winning percentage .896
Harding
158-33 winning percentage .827
Booneville
154-35 winning percentage .815
Prescott
122-60-1 winning percentage .670
Rivercrest
118-59-1 winning percentage .630
Osceola
110-69-1 winning percentage .611
Fordyce
94-79-2 winning percentage .528
McGehee
83-84-1 winning percentage .497

Others
Jct. City
168-28 winning percentage .857 
Greenwood
160-33 winning percentage .829
Nashville
155-45 winning percentage .775
El Dorado
118-64-1 winning percentage .611

The following is since the 3A as we know it now was formed in 2006 to the present.

3A
Charleston
106-12 winning percentage .898
Harding
100-16 winning percentage .827
Prescott
89-26-1 winning percentage .792
Booneville
89-31 winning percentage .742
Rivercrest
63-39-1 winning percentage .617
Osceola
71-48-1 winning percentage .596
Fordyce
59-48 winning percentage .551
McGehee
52-48 winning percentage .520

Others
Jct. City
104-12 winning percentage .896
Greenwood
102-17 winning percentage .871
Nashville
92-23 Winning percentage .775
El Dorado
83-32 winning percentage .722

Radiotalker

Going back to the 90's - A decade of Excellence

                                Wins
AA           Barton        116
AA           Carlisle       113
AAAAA     Pine Bluff    105
AAA         Nashville     101
AAAA       Newport        98
AA           Rison            96
AAAA       Osceola         94
AAAA       Alma             94
AAA         Dollarway      92
AA           Bauxite         91     

nastynice

Quote from: 12th Man CHS on December 15, 2014, 06:54:48 am
Here's a question:

Charleston has won state championships 5 out of the last 10 years. What other schools have had a similar run?
Charleston has had a good 10 year run, but tradition is not 10 years.  What are the numbers for the 70's, 80's, and 90's?

WPWells

Yeah I know. I don't have those numbers

YC

December 15, 2014, 02:02:13 pm #24 Last Edit: December 15, 2014, 03:22:32 pm by IofthaTiger
Quote from: nastynice on December 15, 2014, 01:33:51 pm
Quote from: 12th Man CHS on December 15, 2014, 06:54:48 am
Here's a question:

Charleston has won state championships 5 out of the last 10 years. What other schools have had a similar run?
Charleston has had a good 10 year run, but tradition is not 10 years.  What are the numbers for the 70's, 80's, and 90's?

70's and 80's were bad with the exception of a few teams. 88 and 89 were real good years.

90's were good.
92-24-1 winning percentage of .791

snoopy22

Quote from: DiehardFBfan on December 15, 2014, 08:41:08 am
Quote from: snoopy22 on December 15, 2014, 08:23:42 am
Prescott Curley Wolves.  Most consistent winner in modern playoff era.  From 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, and 2010s.  Always in the mix, very few down years, and lots of great years.  Obviously there are other schools with great arguments as well.  I'm just glad my team is one that can be in the argument!!  lol
That's because you like to argue.:)   I'm ready for next year....I have promise to keep.
LOL I hear you;)

Big Red

Quote from: Cheek on December 15, 2014, 06:51:50 am
McGhee.
Yes.  Mcgehee has a very salty tradition and belongs on a short list for sure.  But I think Big Red is going to sign off for the year, but wants to give one last congrats. to Chucktown and Smack.  The trophies each earned will forever sit in your schools trophy cases and will represent great seasons by great teams and for us who remember, had a phenomenal game.  See you guys in August (unless I cant resist and have to take a peek on here).  Until then, Happy Holidays to all and Go Hogs - Beat Texas. 

DeeGee

Quote from: Big Red on December 16, 2014, 12:15:05 am
Quote from: Cheek on December 15, 2014, 06:51:50 am
McGhee.
Yes.  Mcgehee has a very salty tradition and belongs on a short list for sure.  But I think Big Red is going to sign off for the year, but wants to give one last congrats. to Chucktown and Smack.  The trophies each earned will forever sit in your schools trophy cases and will represent great seasons by great teams and for us who remember, had a phenomenal game.  See you guys in August (unless I cant resist and have to take a peek on here).  Until then, Happy Holidays to all and Go Hogs - Beat Texas.

Merry Christmas to you as well! Oh and happy new year too!
And yes Go Hogs! Beat Texas!! Horns down!

whippersnapper

Looking like next cycle Newport  will drop to 3a. A lot of a great tradition for 1 class. Charleston,  Booneville, Osceola, Harding, Barton, McGehee, Fordyce, Prescott, Rivercrest.

nastynice

Quote from: IofthaTiger on December 15, 2014, 01:16:28 pm


Here is some numbers for the last 15 years (2000 thru 2014) for some of the teams mentioned in this topic and a couple that have not.

3A
Charleston
177-20-1 winning percentage .896
Harding
158-33 winning percentage .827
Booneville
154-35 winning percentage .815
Prescott
122-60-1 winning percentage .670
Rivercrest
118-59-1 winning percentage .630
Osceola
110-69-1 winning percentage .611
Fordyce
94-79-2 winning percentage .528
McGehee
83-84-1 winning percentage .497

Others
Jct. City
168-28 winning percentage .857 
Greenwood
160-33 winning percentage .829
Nashville
155-45 winning percentage .775
El Dorado
118-64-1 winning percentage .611

The following is since the 3A as we know it now was formed in 2006 to the present.

3A
Charleston
106-12 winning percentage .898
Harding
100-16 winning percentage .827
Prescott
89-26-1 winning percentage .792
Booneville
89-31 winning percentage .742
Rivercrest
63-39-1 winning percentage .617
Osceola
71-48-1 winning percentage .596
Fordyce
59-48 winning percentage .551
McGehee
52-48 winning percentage .520

Others
Jct. City
104-12 winning percentage .896
Greenwood
102-17 winning percentage .871
Nashville
92-23 Winning percentage .775
El Dorado
83-32 winning percentage .722
Since you seem to love stats and numbers, use the same teams but go back and include the 70's, 80's, and 90's.  And include Barton and Rison.  This thread is about tradition, not the 2000's only.

whippersnapper

Quote from: nastynice on December 16, 2014, 04:44:58 pm
Quote from: IofthaTiger on December 15, 2014, 01:16:28 pm


Here is some numbers for the last 15 years (2000 thru 2014) for some of the teams mentioned in this topic and a couple that have not.

3A
Charleston
177-20-1 winning percentage .896
Harding
158-33 winning percentage .827
Booneville
154-35 winning percentage .815
Prescott
122-60-1 winning percentage .670
Rivercrest
118-59-1 winning percentage .630
Osceola
110-69-1 winning percentage .611
Fordyce
94-79-2 winning percentage .528
McGehee
83-84-1 winning percentage .497

Others
Jct. City
168-28 winning percentage .857 
Greenwood
160-33 winning percentage .829
Nashville
155-45 winning percentage .775
El Dorado
118-64-1 winning percentage .611

The following is since the 3A as we know it now was formed in 2006 to the present.

3A
Charleston
106-12 winning percentage .898
Harding
100-16 winning percentage .827
Prescott
89-26-1 winning percentage .792
Booneville
89-31 winning percentage .742
Rivercrest
63-39-1 winning percentage .617
Osceola
71-48-1 winning percentage .596
Fordyce
59-48 winning percentage .551
McGehee
52-48 winning percentage .520

Others
Jct. City
104-12 winning percentage .896
Greenwood
102-17 winning percentage .871
Nashville
92-23 Winning percentage .775
El Dorado
83-32 winning percentage .722
Since you seem to love stats and numbers, use the same teams but go back and include the 70's, 80's, and 90's.  And include Barton and Rison.  This thread is about tradition, not the 2000's only.
I can do those numbers for you if you tell me what all teams you want

YC

Quote from: nastynice on December 16, 2014, 04:44:58 pm
Quote from: IofthaTiger on December 15, 2014, 01:16:28 pm


Here is some numbers for the last 15 years (2000 thru 2014) for some of the teams mentioned in this topic and a couple that have not.

3A
Charleston
177-20-1 winning percentage .896
Harding
158-33 winning percentage .827
Booneville
154-35 winning percentage .815
Prescott
122-60-1 winning percentage .670
Rivercrest
118-59-1 winning percentage .630
Osceola
110-69-1 winning percentage .611
Fordyce
94-79-2 winning percentage .528
McGehee
83-84-1 winning percentage .497

Others
Jct. City
168-28 winning percentage .857 
Greenwood
160-33 winning percentage .829
Nashville
155-45 winning percentage .775
El Dorado
118-64-1 winning percentage .611

The following is since the 3A as we know it now was formed in 2006 to the present.

3A
Charleston
106-12 winning percentage .898
Harding
100-16 winning percentage .827
Prescott
89-26-1 winning percentage .792
Booneville
89-31 winning percentage .742
Rivercrest
63-39-1 winning percentage .617
Osceola
71-48-1 winning percentage .596
Fordyce
59-48 winning percentage .551
McGehee
52-48 winning percentage .520

Others
Jct. City
104-12 winning percentage .896
Greenwood
102-17 winning percentage .871
Nashville
92-23 Winning percentage .775
El Dorado
83-32 winning percentage .722
Since you seem to love stats and numbers, use the same teams but go back and include the 70's, 80's, and 90's.  And include Barton and Rison.  This thread is about tradition, not the 2000's only.

I'm not about to waste time going back that far. After 25 years it makes no difference anyway. Now I could do it for the last 25 on Charleston, Barton, Rison, and your team Booneville, but I really don't think you would be that happy with those results either.

WPWells

He IoftheTiger, I remember a couple years ago you did a long thread talking about each season during Charleston's current playoff streak. Any way you could resurrect that?

YC

Quote from: 12th Man CHS on December 16, 2014, 05:56:10 pm
He IoftheTiger, I remember a couple years ago you did a long thread talking about each season during Charleston's current playoff streak. Any way you could resurrect that?

Here you go 12th man

http://www.fearlessfriday.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=106350.0

Jabali

I have a copy of "Purple and Old Gold" written by Glenn Parish. Neat book with every year of football documented with records and stats to ~1988. Great history and a great book. The "Sugar Bowl" Bearcats were unbeaten and were not scored on, pretty sure some of the old fellers are still around.

St Annes Buffaloes were a mean machine back in the day. Kicked the crap out of everybody.

WPWells

Quote from: IofthaTiger on December 16, 2014, 06:07:10 pm
Quote from: 12th Man CHS on December 16, 2014, 05:56:10 pm
He IoftheTiger, I remember a couple years ago you did a long thread talking about each season during Charleston's current playoff streak. Any way you could resurrect that?

Here you go 12th man

http://www.fearlessfriday.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=106350.0

Thanks! Mind if I bump this?

Mr.Fridaynight11

 Best Tradition in the 3A is the topic, Not the best tradition in the last 15 years.
if you look at it as a whole, and not just the last 15 years.
charelston should not even be on the list.

WPWells

Try a 26 year playoff streak. Sorry for making you mad by beating Booneville twice this year, but making the playoffs 26 years in a row is tradition.

Mr.Fridaynight11

Quote from: 12th Man CHS on December 16, 2014, 07:03:29 pm
Try a 26 year playoff streak. Sorry for making you mad by beating Booneville twice this year, but making the playoffs 26 years in a row is tradition.
not really, but if it makes you feel better, keep telling yourself that.

WPWells

What's your definition of tradition then?

nastynice

December 16, 2014, 07:13:55 pm #40 Last Edit: December 16, 2014, 07:16:02 pm by nastynice
Charleston definitely belongs in the mix. Has nothing to do about who beat who this year, that is over. Congrats to the Tigers you did great. It's about tradition and I think all the Guys that played in the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's deserve to be counted also. Not just the kids that have played since 2000. Barton should top this list with Rison and McGehee in there too.

Booneville and Charleston should be somewhere in the middle of the pack.

WPWells

Quote from: nastynice on December 16, 2014, 07:13:55 pm
Charleston definitely belongs in the mix. Has nothing to do about who beat who this year, that is over. Congrats to the Tigers you did great. It's about tradition and I think all the Guys that played in the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's deserve to be counted also. Not just the kids that have played since 2000. Barton should top this list with Rison and McGehee in there too.

Booneville and Charleston should be somewhere in the middle of the pack.

I didn't mean to bash Booneville, but it's obvious that that guy has some clear sour grapes against the Charleston program

Jabali

December 16, 2014, 07:26:28 pm #42 Last Edit: December 16, 2014, 07:28:33 pm by Jabali
Quote from: 12th Man CHS on December 16, 2014, 07:12:17 pm
What's your definition of tradition then?
I think the definition depends on how old you are. You are young have probably been keeping up with Charleston football less than 15 years. The definition of tradition for someone who watched your dad or grandad play is going to probably be different.

And congrats on beating Booneville twice and winning the state championship.

Mr.Fridaynight11

December 16, 2014, 07:32:29 pm #43 Last Edit: December 16, 2014, 07:34:51 pm by Mr.Fridaynight11
Quote from: 12th Man CHS on December 16, 2014, 07:16:45 pm
Quote from: nastynice on December 16, 2014, 07:13:55 pm
Charleston definitely belongs in the mix. Has nothing to do about who beat who this year, that is over. Congrats to the Tigers you did great. It's about tradition and I think all the Guys that played in the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's deserve to be counted also. Not just the kids that have played since 2000. Barton should top this list with Rison and McGehee in there too.

Booneville and Charleston should be somewhere in the middle of the pack.

I didn't mean to bash Booneville, but it's obvious that that guy has some clear sour grapes against the Charleston program
I did not bash Charleston at all. i just said dont base your tradition off the last 15 years.

WPWells

Quote from: Mr.Fridaynight11 on December 16, 2014, 07:32:29 pm
Quote from: 12th Man CHS on December 16, 2014, 07:16:45 pm
Quote from: nastynice on December 16, 2014, 07:13:55 pm
Charleston definitely belongs in the mix. Has nothing to do about who beat who this year, that is over. Congrats to the Tigers you did great. It's about tradition and I think all the Guys that played in the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's deserve to be counted also. Not just the kids that have played since 2000. Barton should top this list with Rison and McGehee in there too.

Booneville and Charleston should be somewhere in the middle of the pack.

I didn't mean to bash Booneville, but it's obvious that that guy has some clear sour grapes against the Charleston program
I did not bash Charleston at all. i just said do base your tradition of the last 15 years.

And I'm wondering how you don't consider 26 consecutive playoff appearances tradition?

Mr.Fridaynight11

Quote from: 12th Man CHS on December 16, 2014, 07:34:56 pm
Quote from: Mr.Fridaynight11 on December 16, 2014, 07:32:29 pm
Quote from: 12th Man CHS on December 16, 2014, 07:16:45 pm
Quote from: nastynice on December 16, 2014, 07:13:55 pm
Charleston definitely belongs in the mix. Has nothing to do about who beat who this year, that is over. Congrats to the Tigers you did great. It's about tradition and I think all the Guys that played in the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's deserve to be counted also. Not just the kids that have played since 2000. Barton should top this list with Rison and McGehee in there too.

Booneville and Charleston should be somewhere in the middle of the pack.

I didn't mean to bash Booneville, but it's obvious that that guy has some clear sour grapes against the Charleston program
I did not bash Charleston at all. i just said do base your tradition of the last 15 years.

And I'm wondering how you don't consider 26 consecutive playoff appearances tradition?
yes 26 consecutive playoff appearances is good, but like i said.... IF YOU LOOK FURTHER BACK THAN 15-20 YEARS,  there are more teams that are more deserving.

WPWells

Quote from: Mr.Fridaynight11 on December 16, 2014, 07:42:40 pm
Quote from: 12th Man CHS on December 16, 2014, 07:34:56 pm
Quote from: Mr.Fridaynight11 on December 16, 2014, 07:32:29 pm
Quote from: 12th Man CHS on December 16, 2014, 07:16:45 pm
Quote from: nastynice on December 16, 2014, 07:13:55 pm
Charleston definitely belongs in the mix. Has nothing to do about who beat who this year, that is over. Congrats to the Tigers you did great. It's about tradition and I think all the Guys that played in the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's deserve to be counted also. Not just the kids that have played since 2000. Barton should top this list with Rison and McGehee in there too.

Booneville and Charleston should be somewhere in the middle of the pack.

I didn't mean to bash Booneville, but it's obvious that that guy has some clear sour grapes against the Charleston program
I did not bash Charleston at all. i just said do base your tradition of the last 15 years.

And I'm wondering how you don't consider 26 consecutive playoff appearances tradition?
yes 26 consecutive playoff appearances is good, but like i said.... IF YOU LOOK FURTHER BACK THAN 15-20 YEARS,  there are more teams that are more deserving.

Tradition also involves keeping it going. I just looked at a thread and there were several years where Hector was really good but no one would consider Hector tradition-rich. Schools like Mineral Springs and Sparkman were some of the best in that time but aren't good now.

Who on here would consider Junction City tradition-rich? Most everyone. Charleston has been good even longer than JC

whippersnapper

I'm working on the numbers and will try to get most of the tradition rich schools record from 1970 till now by this time tomorrow.

YC

December 16, 2014, 08:48:48 pm #48 Last Edit: December 17, 2014, 05:57:27 pm by IofthaTiger

Here are the numbers for the last 25 years you asked about. It does go back farther than those 10 to 15 years. Granted, Charleston had no tradition in the 60's, 70's, and 80's. They only started their present accomplishments in 1988. That's 27 years ago and I do believe that a winning tradition of 27 years does qualify as having tradition. The Barton and Rison teams you mentioned had great tradition during the 80's and 90's but have fallen off some during the 2000's. Booneville has great tradition and has maintained it for many years.

However you guys are beginning to sound like some of the Ozark people who only want to talk ancient history.

1990 to present (25 years)
Charleston 269-44-2 .857 winning percentage
Barton 241-61 .798 winning percentage
Booneville 246-63 .791 winning percentage
Rison 245-64-2 .790 winning percentage.

WPWells

Barton dropped football for a couple years. I respect what they've done in the past, but if they had as much tradition as everyone wants to give them credit for they NEVER would've dropped football

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