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Title: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Quite Frankly on March 26, 2006, 09:00:24 am
In Sunday's Arkansas Democrat Gazette that was distributed in NW Arkansas on March 26th, 2006 the Springdale High School coaching staff is asking for your donation to pay for their(players and coaches) state championship rings by taking out a large ad.  (Was this ad donated by the ARDEMGAZ?, if so all you other schools are owed a free ad)

Donations of $100, $200, $500, $1000, $2000 or other amounts will be collected.  They build it up with the "Pride of NWA" statement as though anyone that is from Bentonville, Rogers, Fayetteville or even Siloam Springs would give a dang.

Record gate.  Record crowds. Record concessions.  Record press coverage.  But they ask for "everyones" help in paying for it.  I love it!  So Springdale..........

Congrats on a great season, but buy your own dang rings just like all the other schools do for their athletes. 

Jerks.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: olddog79 on March 26, 2006, 09:50:40 am
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 26, 2006, 09:00:24 am
In Sunday's Arkansas Democrat Gazette that was distributed in NW Arkansas on March 26th, 2006 the Springdale High School coaching staff is asking for your donation to pay for their(players and coaches) state championship rings by taking out a large ad.  (Was this ad donated by the ARDEMGAZ?, if so all you other schools are owed a free ad)

Donations of $100, $200, $500, $1000, $2000 or other amounts will be collected.  They build it up with the "Pride of NWA" statement as though anyone that is from Bentonville, Rogers, Fayetteville or even Siloam Springs would give a dang.

Record gate.  Record crowds. Record concessions.  Record press coverage.  But they ask for "everyones" help in paying for it.  I love it!  So Springdale..........

Congrats on a great season, but buy your own dang rings just like all the other schools do for their athletes. 

Jerks.
Jerks?.....nice.

The ad was donated by the ADG. I'm sure if your school ever wins a state title and needs help raising money, the ADG would do the same your your school.

Why so bitter?
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Quite Frankly on March 26, 2006, 10:31:18 am
When our school DID win a state championship, we didn't ask the entire general public of NW Arkansas for money.  We handled it ourselves within our own community.  All the revenue and all that hype and you can't take care of your own players and coaches rings?  Try being a smaller school with a smaller budget and getting rings.  There are others that win state championships you know!  You're breaking new ground by begging outsiders.

Asking others outside of Springdale to help you celebrate by helping you buy your rings is arrogant.  Do you see anyone else asking for help?  No!  Keep you business in house.  The appeal that you are the "pride of NWA" is a self-serving pompus statement.  You are the "pride of Springdale".  Everyone else has their own to be proud of and they don't go public by begging for money.

AGAIN, grats on a good season.  Just show some class(you'll need to look that up I'm sure) and quit looking for ways to act like the whole NWA community gives a darn.  They have their own teams.

Since you seem to know, who do I contact at the ARDEMGAZ to get an ad run for the Rogers Cross Country State Championship teams?  They've already managed to get rings for the kids despite not having any big revenue but I thought maybe we could recover some of the costs?  Or maybe you people in Springdale would like to help us pay for our boys basketball rings.  Or does only a co-conference championship merit it?  Ask Don T. would you?

BTW, I knew you'd be first to respond olddog79.  It's good that you keep an eye on the board in case someone says something that offends the RedDog Nation. Great work sniffing out a naysayer in record time on a Sunday.  Get a life.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bknittin on March 26, 2006, 12:36:45 pm
I noticed the ad too. Maybe they should have saved some of the money that sent them to 7 on 7 games in California and Alabama  to pay for rings. Or maybe that is what a BOOSTER club is for!
They did have a story book season, but state championship rings need to be bought by those within their own group, or by quiet solicitation of community leaders. Begging in the paper is not cool.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Forked Tongue on March 26, 2006, 12:55:27 pm
Awesome thread.  Great points.  My mission in life is to try and understand what makes the sports boosters, parents and coaches in Springdale so pompus.  Note I didn't say the athletes themselves.  They are loud when the lose.  They are loud when they win.  They sit in the middle of opposing fans at home and away.  The band plays loud when opposing teams approach the line of scrimmage at football games when they lead by 30.  They teach and condone dirty play beginning in junior high.  They get articles written about them for fan behavior in the Ft. Smith newspaper. They monitor chat rooms 6 months removed from the end of a season ready to pounce on any little thing that is said about them.  They flaunt rules to allow outsiders into a closed system to help out the basketball team.   I think I got thesis material here.

And now

They beg for money from anyone that'll listen as though they are Katrina victims.  God the ego.

(Before you red supporters get on here and cry about jealousy, you need to understand that this is not about jealousy, it's about class and respect.  Something that you now nothing about.)

Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: ptown25 on March 26, 2006, 01:13:54 pm
Paragould, won't ever have to worry about that....
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bulldogs1159 on March 26, 2006, 05:54:47 pm
No it is jealousy and it is funny. People hate winners.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Quite Frankly on March 26, 2006, 06:29:17 pm
People hate winners that flaunt it over and over and over and over.  If your only defense to what is said you believe it's jealousy, you simply are trying to deflect the stated facts.  You ignore that everyone says congrats, you simply can't stand that someone doesn't want to pat you on the back everyday for the rest of your life.  It's okay, you've got company in your own neighborhood that'll agree with you.

Are you aware that there were other state champions in football?  Not just this year, but in other years.  Are you aware that other sports also have state championships?  Plus, I'm sure that your trying to raise money for the most gaudiest rings ever made.  Humble as you are you wouldn't be trying to make a Super Bowl-type ring would you?  You're victory cigars speak volumns about how you feel.

6000 posts and you want everyone to see those cigars so you continue to post.(AND POST AND POST AND POST).

Looking forward to hearing about your 1-year, 2 year, 3 years, etc reunion events as you continue to relive your monumental accomplishments. 

Anyone notice that the AAA will not let Rogers come in mid-cycle (like Springdale did) when the second Rogers high school opens?  Why not equal treatment?
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: olddog79 on March 26, 2006, 06:41:22 pm
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 26, 2006, 06:29:17 pm


Anyone notice that the AAA will not let Rogers come in mid-cycle (like Springdale did) when the second Rogers high school opens? Why not equal treatment?
well.....the truth comes out.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: RHS on March 26, 2006, 06:43:34 pm
QuoteAnyone notice that the AAA will not let Rogers come in mid-cycle (like Springdale did) when the second Rogers high school opens?  Why not equal treatment?

Hadn't heard about that, but it really doesn't suprise me since the AAA is involved in the process.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bulldogs1159 on March 26, 2006, 06:59:26 pm
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 26, 2006, 06:29:17 pm
People hate winners that flaunt it over and over and over and over. If your only defense to what is said you believe it's jealousy, you simply are trying to deflect the stated facts. You ignore that everyone says congrats, you simply can't stand that someone doesn't want to pat you on the back everyday for the rest of your life. It's okay, you've got company in your neighborhood that'll agree with you.

Are you aware that there were other state champions in football? Not just this year, but in other years. Are you aware that other sports also have state championships? Plus, I'm sure that your trying to raise money for the gaudy rings ever. Humble as you are you wouldn't be trying to make a Super Bowl-type ring would you. You're victory cigars speak volumns about how you feel.

6000 posts and you want everyone to see those cigars so you continue to post.(AND POST AND POST AND POST).

Looking forward to hearing about your 1-year, 2 year, 3 years, etc reunion events as you contiue to relive your monumenatl accomplishment.

Anyone notice that the AAA will not let Rogers come in mid-cycle (like Springdale did) when the second Rogers high school opens? Why not equal treatment?
Wow noob way to notice the cigars that were added today. Your observation skills are astounding.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: RHS on March 26, 2006, 07:07:56 pm
Those any good?
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bulldogs1159 on March 26, 2006, 07:14:03 pm
The best ones Ive ever had. When they come back in season in about a month Im going to get a box or torros for about $120.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bulldogs1159 on March 26, 2006, 07:28:56 pm
You know now that I think about it Frankley your right. I shouldnt be happy we won. I mean think of the feelings we hurt along the way. Should have givin someone else a chance.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Quite Frankly on March 26, 2006, 07:59:41 pm
Instead of a cigar, why not buy a ring for your fav player.  Keep talking the arrogance is showing. 

You fools just don't get it:

It's unreal how you Springdale Snobs simply can't take a single justified criticism.  You must look for an ulterior motive so you can deflect it away from the truth of the thread.  If you are correct and I do have motive, it only makes me normal for this board.  IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THIS THREAD.  Counter attack me all you want.  Get that post count up to 5000.  It simply does not matter.

Turn that light on yourself like your so good at before the memory fades.  It's just so sad daddies.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bulldogs1159 on March 26, 2006, 08:05:38 pm
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 26, 2006, 07:59:41 pm
Instead of a cigar, why not buy a ring for your fav player. Keep talking the arrogance is showing.

You fools just don't get it:

It's unreal how you Springdale Snobs simply can't take a single justified criticism. You must look for an ulterior motive so you can deflect it away from the truth of the thread. If you are correct and I do have motive, it only makes me normal for this board. IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THIS THREAD. Counter attack me all you want. Get that post count up to 5000. It simply does not matter.

Turn that light on yourself like your so good at before the memory fades. It's just so sad daddies.
It is pointless to argue with people like you. Springdale could have let built houses for the homeless and it would all just be for more media hype. Come and talk to me when the jealousy has subsided.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Quite Frankly on March 26, 2006, 08:28:23 pm
Remind me what it is that I'm jealous of so that I'll know. To imply there is one thing that you have that I want is simply hilarious.  I can tell you there isn't.  I don't want it and the hypocrisy that comes with it.  I'll take my corner of the world were people are humble and appreciate things for what they are and don't seek to broadcast on a daily basis their superiority over others over a football season.  Do you do that at work too?

If your girls win a championship will there be an ad begging for money from NWA?  If your baseball team does?  If your track team does?  Or better, if Har-Ber wins one will all of Springdale donate?

The answer to all of these questions is NO.

To ask outsiders for money is comparable to Texas asking Hog fans to purchase rings for their football season.  Are you honestly saying that it's a first class way to raise money?  If they are collecting for the homeless or building shelters for the poor as the previous off-handed post refered to then that's different.  BUT YOU ARE ASKING FOR MONEY FOR YOURSELVES.  LORD.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: dogfan07 on March 26, 2006, 08:32:56 pm
well springdale wouldn't be asking for help if it wasn't for the 10,000 dollar banquet they had. that the head of the booster club put together b/c it wasn't worth it. and classy you cant say springdale wasn't classy b/c didn't they take out all the starters at the beginning of the 2nd half. you cant say that is classy. but no it isn't classy to ask outsiders. i just don't see why Tyson don't help out springdale. oh wait his son goes to harber that's why he would help them.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bulldogs1159 on March 26, 2006, 08:36:10 pm
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 26, 2006, 08:28:23 pm
Remind me what it is that I'm jealous of so that I'll know. To imply there is one thing that you have that I want is simply hilarious. I can tell you there isn't. I don't want it and the hypocrisy that comes with it. I'll take my corner of the world were people are humble and appreciate things for what they are and don't seek to broadcast on a daily basis their superiority over others over a football season. Do you do that at work too?

If your girls win a championship will there be an ad begging for money from NWA? If your baseball team does? If your track team does? Or better, if Har-Ber wins one will all of Springdale donate?

The answer to all of these questions is NO.

To ask outsiders for money is comparable to Texas asking Hog fans to purchase rings for their football season. Are you honestly saying that it's a first class way to raise money? If they are collecting for the homeless or building shelters for the poor as the previous off-handed post refered to then that's different. BUT YOU ARE ASKING FOR MONEY FOR YOURSELVES. LORD.
Oh I'm sorry I seem to forget that its our fault the media was covering us. Next time we will tell them to take there cameras away and go to other schools that have won in the past we would hate to have other fans angry. Your argument is shaky at best and hinges on what ifs that you have no clue about for example if our other teams won championships. Your making assumptions on things you know nothing about and we all know what happens when you assume. The only reason you are angry about the add is simply for the fact that its Springdale. Trying to explain anything to you is like trying to explain something to the Westbourgh Baptist Church. Its simply asinine.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: spaceeater on March 26, 2006, 08:49:04 pm
Lets do some math.  3 home football games which were standing room only at $5 per with about 20% to the home team and 25,000 in Little Rock at 40% for Springdale, we are talking somewhere around $60,000 give or take.  Then you still beg everyone in the region to buy your rings?  I recall when Bentonville, and a few years earlier Van  Buren won the state title in Football, they took care of there own.  The lesson is clear.  Also, Rogers can look to the Supt. of the Fayetteville Public Schools who made the recommendation to the AAA Executive Committee to let Harbor in in the middle of a cycle.  This past fall, the AAA redid their historical position and took the position again that no new team can be admitted in during a two year cycle, which begins this fall. 
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Quite Frankly on March 26, 2006, 08:51:32 pm
I'm not making any assumptions about that ad in the ARDEMGAZ.  That's a cold fact.  All we know for sure(toss aside all the crap we've each thrown out) and this ad is the first of it's kind.  I doubt that the paper contacted you.  I'm sure you contacted them.  It's a third rate move.  It cheapens your(I mean your son's) accomplishment.  It's the school's, the parents and the booster clubs responsibility to do what they feel is necessary at seasons end for all athletes.  But, to ask outside of your inner circle lacks class to pay for rings is appalling.  

Keep making up things about the homeless and people being jealous and the fact that you had a great season.  They have no relationship to the fact that you are BEGGING NWA for money.  We're talking about rings here.  There has been plenty of accolades shown to these well deserving kids with the press coverage and simply the fact that they dominated and won a state title.

But why do you need someone else's money to pay for it?
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bulldogs1159 on March 26, 2006, 08:55:22 pm
I am in no way connected to the team this season. I dont have a son that played ( correction-or one at all for that matter, at least that I know of :) ). I have no idea what all the money went on and why they are asking for help. Had the add just said hey Springdale people we need some help would that have made a dif to you? Or would you have been mad there was an add for Springdale in your paper. Which by the way goes to all of NWA, I think there may be some Springdale fans outside of the city limits.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: dogfan07 on March 26, 2006, 08:58:49 pm
well first of all i think aaa should buy all state championship rings for all athleteic teams. 2nd if you had a season those kids had would you not want a ring the size of the steelers super bowl ring. i know i would want the biggest ring i could put on my finger. all the booster club money went into the banquet that they have at the end of the year.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bulldogs1159 on March 26, 2006, 09:01:40 pm
I didnt win a title when I was at Springdale had we won I would have wanted to biggest one possible. I think just about any kid would want that. I have seen some pretty nice sized rings from around the state.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Quite Frankly on March 26, 2006, 09:11:58 pm
The all of "NWA" is offensive.  But, the ad itself is in poor taste.  The NWA part just makes it worse.  They should have simply tried to raise the money in a quieter fashion, but it's not the Springdale style to do anything in a respectful matter.

And as to the previous post about the Super at Fayetteville making the motion to allow Har-Ber in at mid-term, It's semantics.  He made the formal request at the behest of the Springdale super Rollins.  Schools don't make moves on their own behalf.  They get others to do it to be politically correct to allow for obvious reasons.  One can only wonder what Springdale will do in return.  The political clout carries weight in this area as well and the fact that Tyson is a card-carrying member of the AAA speaks volumes.  It was beneficial for all of Springdale to keep the football team together and then to separate ALL of the other sports for the benefit of Har-Ber.  The Fayetteville super was simply moved to allow them to come in mid-cycle, but was unaware that it would be manipulated to keep the football team together.  Give Springdale credit.  They pulled the right strings in the right order, but now that loophole will close.

Will you help pay for rings at BHS if they win a football title?  Rings are fine, just don't think others should pay for it.

Good night.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bknittin on March 26, 2006, 09:15:34 pm
Why on earth would a booster club have a blow out banquet and not reserve enough money to buy rings for the team? I just don't get it. I just don't get asking the public to pay for rings when the booster club did not have the foresight to plan and budget for those rings.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bulldogs1159 on March 26, 2006, 09:16:13 pm
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 26, 2006, 09:11:58 pm
The all of "NWA" is offensive.  But, the ad itself is in poor taste.  The NWA part just makes it worse.  They should have simply tried to raise the money in a quieter fashion, but it's not the Springdale style to do anything in a respectful matter.

So its a wording issue. And I would love to hear examples of how Springdale is unclassy. Ill give you some time to work this one up.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: dogfan07 on March 26, 2006, 09:23:22 pm
bhs wont have to ask, they have wal-mart that just paid for a 22 million dollar football faselties.and when you say springdale has tyson.no, they dont har-ber has tyson. springdale has a couple of harp kids thats about it.quite frankly you have know nothing about this ordeal in springdale.last time i checked springdale doesnt bad mouth anyone else they help them up. they get up 35 and put in the 2nd stringers and let them have their fun. if you ask me springdale was one of the most classyiest teams in the conference if not the state. some of the kids would of ratherd wm to have won b/c they felt bad for the seniors that play varsity as a sophmore, but they where greatfull that they won just to bad their cant be to winners. there will always be a winner and a loser. springdale stay classy like always.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bknight33 on March 26, 2006, 09:37:16 pm
I am interested in this as well.  Why after all the money that booster club has had donated to that program.  .  .new field, scoreboard, etc. . .can the parents and athletic dept not foot the bill for the rings? Advertising for this is ridiculous.  Perception to some is that somehow the rest of NWA owes Springdale something for being ranked in the top ten nationally in HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL.  Ole Dog and 1159, I respect your posts but you guys cannot get around this one.  I would not say that it is in any way arrogant, just very tasteless. 
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bulldogs1159 on March 26, 2006, 09:40:40 pm
I haven't even seen the add so I don't have an opinion on it yet. I was mostly defending that this is just another thing in a long line of classless acts that Springdale does which is completely false.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: dogfan07 on March 26, 2006, 09:46:16 pm
go and ask the moms that set up the banquet. b/c i ask my self that ? every time i hear about this topic.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: delerium on March 26, 2006, 10:09:10 pm
You really wanna know what happened? Coach Malzahn went to the razorbacks, and turned his back on the players of SHS, failing to even tell them that he was leaving. Malzahns gone, money's gone.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: dogfan07 on March 26, 2006, 10:35:20 pm
true, he told the players they will be the first to know and then the day he tells the news is the day he tells the players.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bknight33 on March 26, 2006, 10:38:59 pm
Quote from: delerium on March 26, 2006, 10:09:10 pm
You really wanna know what happened? Coach Malzahn went to the razorbacks, and turned his back on the players of SHS, failing to even tell them that he was leaving. Malzahns gone, money's gone.

Well I am sure it is not exactly like that.  . .
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: RHS on March 27, 2006, 01:35:26 am
It's funny that the thread is talking about the ad, for the most part, and dogfan talks about them taking starters out during the games. Just made me laugh.

Anyway, I agree with bknight and Quite Frankly. It just puzzles me that Springdale can afford everything they have over the past few years but can't get the rings. I don't agree with asking all of NWA to help pay. Ask the residents of Springdale to help pay for them.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Uncle Ivan on March 27, 2006, 02:39:05 am
Does anyone have a photo of the ad?  I'd like to see it.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: wideout88 on March 27, 2006, 06:17:23 am
Springdale needs to take care of the rings for there players, don't give rings to admin. and all the coaches from the other sports and jr. high coaches some of these guys were not round when the sr. were in jr. high school. Why does the secratary need a ring , that she will never wear.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: heffy22 on March 27, 2006, 09:39:54 am
My question would be, How much does each ring cost anyway? 
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: powerlifter90 on March 27, 2006, 09:56:11 am
With all the money the U of A paid the "fab 4" to play for the piggies maybe those former SHS players should buy their own rings and the rings of their teammates.............
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: zebradynasty on March 27, 2006, 10:14:49 am
I haven't seen the article but if true it takes a pretty good set on ya to ask for other communities to pay for your championship rings! It's very poor taste to have people outside of Springdale pay for it! I think the real problem is that they are ordering some SuperBowl size rings and even they are having problems coming up with that kind of money. Otherwise there is no reason that Springdale should not be able to afford rings!
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: not ray on March 27, 2006, 11:05:36 am
No one that doesn't want to contribute has to.   The way I see it if someone sees the add, and feels as if they want to give then so be it.  I have been around a school that had to scrounge for money to pay for state title rings.  This is by far not the first time I have seen a school put an add in a paper asking for help.  I have also coached a team that each individual had to pay for their own ring or they would have not gotten anything. 
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bulldogs1159 on March 27, 2006, 11:22:19 am
Quote from: BUGEATERS on March 27, 2006, 09:56:11 am
With all the money the U of A paid the "fab 4" to play for the piggies maybe those former SHS players should buy their own rings and the rings of their teammates.............
95% of what you say is tounge in cheek. :)
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: marian on March 27, 2006, 11:55:38 am
The paper sure didn`t give Russellville`s volleyball team a free ad for rings, the booster club raised the money, and through private donations. Every girl on the team got a ring.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: RHS on March 27, 2006, 12:42:16 pm
QuoteI have been around a school that had to scrounge for money to pay for state title rings.

Did you go ask Van Buren people to give you guys money?
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: olddog79 on March 27, 2006, 12:47:48 pm
Here's all I have to say about this subject....Whatever it takes to get the boys their well earned rings, if some people don't like it...so be it. If they don't want to donate....so be it. If your team wants help raising money for whatever reason....knock yourself out. I'm sure most local papers are willing to help.
I don't know how the booster club money was spent...ask the Pres. Mark Nelson. This is not the only ring fund effort....other avenues are being pursued and I'm sure they won't be bothering "Quite Frankly" about it. If you live outside of Springdale, and don't want to contribute...fine I don't blame you, but the ADG goes to all of NWA, not just Springdale.

...and finally, yes there's a huge conspiracy against Rogers and I'm to blame.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: not ray on March 27, 2006, 01:14:04 pm
Quote from: RHS on March 27, 2006, 12:42:16 pm
QuoteI have been around a school that had to scrounge for money to pay for state title rings.

Did you go ask Van Buren people to give you guys money?

As a matter of fact if they subscribed to the Times Record or listened to the radio then they would have either read or heard advertisements that asked them to donate if they so chose.  This was for the 2002 Southside state title rings.  When a team has 100 or more players and the rings are a minimum of 300 dollars that is quite a bit of dough to be spent.  Many of the kids parents can more than buy the ring for their own child.  Many others (the majority in some cases) are not able to do this.  My opinion is I do not give one crap if they ask for donations to do this for the kids.  I am not going to donate, and I don't have to.  No one is forcing anyone to do anything. 
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: not ray on March 27, 2006, 02:07:44 pm
The AAA buying rings for what 100 or more state titlest in every single sport both boys and girls.  Boy that would be a smart way to spend money.  Runner-up rings?  Ray Finkel anyone??  Now that is wasteful spending.  Just wondering how many other schools out there have ever bought we were last LOSER rings. 
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: R. A.™ on March 27, 2006, 04:01:55 pm
I can not believe that SHS is in need of money to buy rings! If they are asking for donations than those rings better rival the Super Bowl or National Championship rings, which I heard they would.

As far as asking all of NWA for the money, that is smart since it all runs together, don't know when you leave one city limit and enter another. good way to get in touch will the SHS alums.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bulldogs1159 on March 27, 2006, 05:11:45 pm
Quote from: Stinger on March 27, 2006, 01:30:15 pm
Little old Nashville managed to buy their new Rings without going all over the state begging for money.  Even Dierks bought their team Runner-Up Rings without asking for outside help.  Nashville bought a lot of Rings because they have a large squad for a AAA school.  This is new territory, but if someone wants to help I say let them.  All of the kids deserve a Ring.   I think there should be a monetary limit put on them, maybe even a system where the Arkansas Activities Association buys them each year for the state champions.
Going all over the state begging huh? Thats a new one.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: olddog79 on March 27, 2006, 06:43:31 pm
Quote from: Stinger on March 27, 2006, 06:16:04 pm
Quote from: CAO MX2™© on March 27, 2006, 05:11:45 pm
Quote from: Stinger on March 27, 2006, 01:30:15 pm
Little old Nashville managed to buy their new Rings without going all over the state begging for money. Even Dierks bought their team Runner-Up Rings without asking for outside help. Nashville bought a lot of Rings because they have a large squad for a AAA school. This is new territory, but if someone wants to help I say let them. All of the kids deserve a Ring. I think there should be a monetary limit put on them, maybe even a system where the Arkansas Activities Association buys them each year for the state champions.
Going all over the state begging huh? Thats a new one.

That is sure the impression you leave with the ad in the paper!   It shouldn't sound so new after reading all of these replies.
The NW edition of the ADG only goes to residents of NWA, not the entire state. You're about 63 counties short of covering the state.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: dogfan07 on March 27, 2006, 08:33:23 pm
Quote from: RHS on March 27, 2006, 01:35:26 am
It's funny that the thread is talking about the ad, for the most part, and dogfan talks about them taking starters out during the games. Just made me laugh.

Anyway, I agree with bknight and Quite Frankly. It just puzzles me that Springdale can afford everything they have over the past few years but can't get the rings. I don't agree with asking all of NWA to help pay. Ask the residents of Springdale to help pay for them.

well if you have read what all we are talkin about you would see that there is some coments about the bulldogs not being classy. i was just saying if we werent why would we of takin out the first string.so read before you type rhs.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Super Scrapper on March 27, 2006, 09:24:11 pm
I thought the Springdale program represented the State well last year.  It was a Nationally ranked

program that was very much needed for our state.   Our Booster Club raised money and asked for

donations locally for our boys rings and I see nothing wrong with that.  There were ads in our local

papers.  The ADG NWA edition is a local paper in that area so I see nothing wrong with an ad for the

Springdale Bulldogs in it.  I think this is a bunch of jealous garbage.  Good luck in your effort to get

the money for your boys, they are truly deserving.  SS

So Scrappers ;D
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bear on March 27, 2006, 10:13:12 pm
Springdale...Hello, buy your own rings for your kids....the rest of us respect what you accomplished, but I won't donate to it. It is Springdale and no one else..... :)
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bknight33 on March 27, 2006, 10:32:07 pm
Thr ad in the paper is okay, it is just rather large, and gives off the impression that the AAAAA west owes something to Springdale. Guess what? They don't.  Nothing has changed. Most people still do not care about high school football in Arkansas.   You guys have a huge booster club.  You guys have spent millions of dollars on seven on seven trips to promote your head coach, his offense, his book, and his players, a field house, artificial turf, camera equipment, coaches offices, the Gus Malzahn show, a scoreboard. . .etc.  how about forking over a few dollars out of your pocket and letting the booster club pick up the coaches and the underprivledged kids costs. 
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: V-Town_Eagle_24 on March 27, 2006, 11:02:42 pm
First of all, this is a great thread.  I'm loving it!  :)

Anyway, I think it is very weird that Springdale has to accept donations for rings.  From my perspective, Springdale is a very "well off" city and school system.  The booster club definitely should have taken the rings into account.  That is a huge mistake on their part, and you Springdale people should be mad at them.  On the other hand, all of the things they did with their money were very beneficial to the school.  National recognition is what came with it.  They could have put back some money for the rings, though, because they would've had to be dumb to not anticipate a state championship.

For all of you small schools claiming "if we can pay for them, so can they," you have to take into account the fact that you are a smaller school in another area.  You have less kids.  That means less players on the team= less cost.  Granted you are probably not paying for as high quality rings as Springdale, though.  Springdale is a top-notch, high classification school system.  It is not required for them to have nicer facilities, but it is somewhat of a "norm."  A lot of their money has to pay for that stuff, and smaller schools do not have to worry about that.  That is a shaky argument, though, I know.

For all of you Springdale residents claming that others cities complaining is jealousy, know that that makes you seem even more arrogant and classless.  I am not saying Springdale people are that, because I do not know a single person from there, but it is not a hard concept to agree with.  If you think that someone is jealous of you, you are simply stating that you have things that they want.  That is not smart if you are trying to portray yourselves as classy.

Please note that I am not taking a certain side on this topic.  There are things that I agree and disagree with on this topic about Springdale.  Like many others have said, though, if you do not want to help, then don't.  It is that easy.  No one is saying that you must, or even should, help.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: couch potato on March 28, 2006, 08:24:46 am
The NWA Times ran the ad today so that is 2 papers readers can see the ad.  I know that both papers are owned by the same group but not everyone reads both papers.  Many points have been made throughout this thread but the one that hit home the most was the amount of money that has been spent over the years on facilities, field turf, scoreboard, etc and then the cost of this years banquet.  With that kind of money being spent, it just seems to go beyond the norm to ask for help in funding championship rings.  I don't recall you ever placing ads and asking for help in any other fundraising projects.  This needed to be done in house.  By the way, congratulations on a great year.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: sdbulldogs13 on March 28, 2006, 09:10:45 am
How many times has it been ran?
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bknight33 on March 28, 2006, 10:52:07 am
Why does the ring have Malzahn's name on the side? That is the most ridiculous looking thing I have ever seen .
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: olddog79 on March 28, 2006, 11:08:01 am
Quote from: couch potato on March 28, 2006, 08:24:46 am
The NWA Times ran the ad today so that is 2 papers readers can see the ad. I know that both papers are owned by the same group but not everyone reads both papers. Many points have been made throughout this thread but the one that hit home the most was the amount of money that has been spent over the years on facilities, field turf, scoreboard, etc and then the cost of this years banquet. With that kind of money being spent, it just seems to go beyond the norm to ask for help in funding championship rings. I don't recall you ever placing ads and asking for help in any other fundraising projects. This needed to be done in house. By the way, congratulations on a great year.
It DID NOT run the NWA times today...only the ADG sports section.

Check it again Coach Potato.

Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: V-Town_Eagle_24 on March 28, 2006, 11:25:30 am
Did it run in the NW edition of the ARDEMGAZ, or the Little Rock edition?
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: olddog79 on March 28, 2006, 12:36:28 pm
Quote from: JGotcher on March 28, 2006, 11:25:30 am
Did it run in the NW edition of the ARDEMGAZ, or the Little Rock edition?
NW edition only.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: footballfan-tastic on March 28, 2006, 01:31:44 pm
I would say it looks a little odd for a program that has spent so much money on it's football program now doesn't have the money for rings.  It would seem they should have planned on this event.  Who didn't know they were going to win it all.  But, in reality there is nothing wrong with asking for help, the real joke will be if anyone gives them money from outside.   
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: couch potato on March 28, 2006, 03:19:55 pm
My bad....I must have been looking at the ADG instead of the NWA Times.  It doesn't minimize the begging though.  It does appear that someone got to the paper and had a few of the things stated in the original ad eliminated from this second running.  Again, I was wrong to say that it had run in another paper.  It was wrong of the SHS program to run it at all.
Quote from: olddog79 on March 28, 2006, 11:08:01 am
Quote from: couch potato on March 28, 2006, 08:24:46 am
The NWA Times ran the ad today so that is 2 papers readers can see the ad. I know that both papers are owned by the same group but not everyone reads both papers. Many points have been made throughout this thread but the one that hit home the most was the amount of money that has been spent over the years on facilities, field turf, scoreboard, etc and then the cost of this years banquet. With that kind of money being spent, it just seems to go beyond the norm to ask for help in funding championship rings. I don't recall you ever placing ads and asking for help in any other fundraising projects. This needed to be done in house. By the way, congratulations on a great year.
It DID NOT run the NWA times today...only the ADG sports section.

Check it again Coach Potato.


Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bulldogs1159 on March 28, 2006, 03:27:08 pm
QuoteIt was wrong of the SHS program to run it at all.
No it wasn't.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: V-Town_Eagle_24 on March 28, 2006, 05:31:51 pm
In today's article, I saw nothing that seemed unclassy or arrogant.  There was no "Pride of NWA," or anything.  So, the arrogant thing is out of the window, in my opinion. 
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bulldogs1159 on March 28, 2006, 05:51:39 pm
Quote from: JGotcher on March 28, 2006, 05:31:51 pm
In today's article, I saw nothing that seemed unclassy or arrogant. There was no "Pride of NWA," or anything. So, the arrogant thing is out of the window, in my opinion.
The problem was found and corrected so people who say we have no class are once again proved wrong.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Forked Tongue on March 28, 2006, 07:15:06 pm
Someone must have thought it was wrong as it was or it wouldn't have been changed from the original ad.  Never underestimate the power of public thought!

Credit for correcting a wrong, but you can bet that they only changed it because others pointed out the flaw in the delivery of the intended message.  It's original form was what they REALLY meant to say and it was changed ONLY because they are doing whatever is necessary to raise money.  The "Pride of NWA" lead comment on the first ad was offensive and though they didn't think so when they wrote it, they nonetheles switched it help their cause.  Very understandable!

I do like that picture of the ring though!  Having Gus's name on the side is really odd though.  Why is that on there?  Is it because that's his personal ring and each will have their own name on it(unlikely due to room)?  His name seems out-of-place.  Is Lombardi's name on the Packers rings? Why so elaborate?  If you are having money issues maybe you should scale down the rings a little to the point that they are affordable.

Also, it's a travesty that they feel the need to wait until now to go for the dough.  The powers in charge must have felt it would be easier to appeal to the public to buy rings for the kids at this point and in the meanwhile spend money on other fluff.  You can bet they wouldn't have put an ad in the paper asking for money for scoreboards and other less romantic causes.  Apparently the lesson is to blow all the money as fast as you earn it on non-essentials and then appeal to the public's heart for rings for the players.

Will this money go to pay for just anyone's ring or will it pay for a secretary or a coach? Though everyone that they want to give one too is intitled to it, it's important to note if the solicited funds go directly to a needy player.  That's what the public is led to think.  My guess is that there is one big general fund and it pays for them all.  If any of the ad solicited money goes to a non-player(or manager) that would be wrong as well.  I'm not saying it is one way or the other, but I bet you can guess that one.

Great season.  Rings are deserved, I never said anything to the contrary.  Just tone it down.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bknight33 on March 28, 2006, 07:28:14 pm
Quote from: Forked Tongue on March 28, 2006, 07:15:06 pm
Someone must have thought it was wrong as it was or it wouldn't have been changed from the original ad.  Never underestimate the power of public thought!

Credit for correcting a wrong, but you can bet that they only changed it because others pointed out the flaw in the delivery of the intended message.  It's original form was what they REALLY meant to say and it was changed ONLY because they are doing whatever is necessary to raise money.  The "Pride of NWA" lead comment on the first ad was offensive and though they didn't think so when they wrote it, they nonetheles switched it help their cause.  Very understandable!

I do like that picture of the ring though!  Having Gus's name on the side is really odd though.  Why is that on there?  Is it because that's his personal ring and each will have their own name on it(unlikely due to room)?  His name seems out-of-place.  Is Lombardi's name on the Packers rings? Why so elaborate?  If you are having money issues maybe you should scale down the rings a little to the point that they are affordable.

Also, it's a travesty that they feel the need to wait until now to go for the dough.  The powers in charge must have felt it would be easier to appeal to the public to buy rings for the kids at this point and in the meanwhile spend money on other fluff.  You can bet they wouldn't have put an ad in the paper asking for money for scoreboards and other less romantic causes.  Apparently the lesson is to blow all the money as fast as you earn it on non-essentials and then appeal to the public's heart for rings for the players.

Will this money go to pay for just anyone's ring or will it pay for a secretary or a coach? Though everyone that they want to give one too is intitled to it, it's important to note if the solicited funds go directly to a needy player.  That's what the public is led to think.  My guess is that there is one big general fund and it pays for them all.  If any of the ad solicited money goes to a non-player(or manager) that would be wrong as well.  I'm not saying it is one way or the other, but I bet you can guess that one.

Great season.  Rings are deserved, I never said anything to the contrary.  Just tone it down.


It says Malzahn.  I still cannot get over that. Malzahn? Wow.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: olddog79 on March 28, 2006, 08:50:34 pm
The reason why that ring says Malzahn is because that's his ring. If it was Mitch's ring, it would say Mustain. Malzahn's name is only on the display ring.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bknight33 on March 28, 2006, 09:28:52 pm
Quote from: olddog79 on March 28, 2006, 08:50:34 pm
The reason why that ring says Malzahn is because that's his ring. If it was Mitch's ring, it would say Mustain. Malzahn's name is only on the display ring.

That makes me feel a lot better.  I assumed that, but the longer the day went, the less sure I was about it.  No wonder those things cost so much money.  Personalizing each ring? What is this world coming to?  If you cannot afford rings, get them a plaque.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: not ray on March 28, 2006, 09:36:20 pm
If the AAA should be responsible for buying all sport rings then why not have them buy the equivalent for band, chior, cheerleading, FBLA, etc???  Ring buying is certainly not what the AAA is for. 
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: rzbker1974 on March 29, 2006, 07:49:56 am
Quote from: constantine on March 28, 2006, 09:56:03 pm
Quote from: S.D. Jones on March 28, 2006, 09:36:20 pm
If the AAA should be responsible for buying all sport rings then why not have them buy the equivalent for band, chior, cheerleading, FBLA, etc??? Ring buying is certainly not what the AAA is for.

Again it all falls on the booster club and how they blew the funds on a banquet......let them find the money inside their own town.....without begging NWA to help

I guess the $25 that I had to pay for my dinner was a tip then. I am sure that covered the cost of serving the meal (probably $8-$12 a head) and the rent on the dining hall (probably $2,000).
Let's see, since you obviously were not in attendance, I would put the estimate of paying parents and family members at 400, times $25 equals a $10,000 gate.
If you fed everyone (the team and guest speakers, say 600 total at even $12 a head cost would be $7,200 plus the $2,000 is less than your gate.

Exactly how much do you think that the Booster Club was out of pocket after that?

My point being whatever your beef is with the booster club blowing funds has no basis. Back up your beef with something other than jealous stabs.


Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bknight33 on March 29, 2006, 09:03:22 am
Quote from: rzbker1974 on March 29, 2006, 07:49:56 am
Quote from: constantine on March 28, 2006, 09:56:03 pm
Quote from: S.D. Jones on March 28, 2006, 09:36:20 pm
If the AAA should be responsible for buying all sport rings then why not have them buy the equivalent for band, chior, cheerleading, FBLA, etc??? Ring buying is certainly not what the AAA is for.

Again it all falls on the booster club and how they blew the funds on a banquet......let them find the money inside their own town.....without begging NWA to help

I guess the $25 that I had to pay for my dinner was a tip then. I am sure that covered the cost of serving the meal (probably $8-$12 a head) and the rent on the dining hall (probably $2,000).
Let's see, since you obviously were not in attendance, I would put the estimate of paying parents and family members at 400, times $25 equals a $10,000 gate.
If you fed everyone (the team and guest speakers, say 600 total at even $12 a head cost would be $7,200 plus the $2,000 is less than your gate.

Exactly how much do you think that the Booster Club was out of pocket after that?

My point being whatever your beef is with the booster club blowing funds has no basis. Back up your beef with something other than jealous stabs.




Do you really think that people are jealous of Springdale football? Why? What is it with some people on this board?  Are they jealous because you won a state championship?  Because you had a great football coach? Because you had several great kids sign major D1 scholarships? Keep things in focus here.  You are not Jenks, Evangel, etc. . .you have great football tradition, but its not like you are pumping state championships and national rankings every year.  Like I said, buy a new scoreboard, replay board, turf field, renovate the stands, concessions, and build an indoor facility, and then ask Joe Public for ring money? Not very classy.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: rzbker1974 on March 29, 2006, 09:20:00 am
Agreed, not very classy or I should say not very well thought out. The probability was there for them to go all the way. Hindsight,  I guess, is 20/20 for allocating the proper funds at the proper time.

IMO - I think that if additional funds are needed, there are certainly other alternatives that the School System/Booster Club/Parents could pursue. However, I think that somehow the players and their families should not have to bear the cost of an award. If I need to work extra to come up with the cash to pay for it for my son, on my own, I have that option. Some families however do not have that luxury.

BK, you have always carried yourself well, for what it's worth, I respect that.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: waltflanagansdog on March 29, 2006, 12:40:10 pm
You can get a decent championship ring from $125 from Jostens.  No need to go spending $250 - $400 per ring.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: olddog79 on March 29, 2006, 12:53:23 pm
No one is begging NWA for money. If people want to give..great. if they don't...fine. But Springdale doesn't have a paper just for Springdale, so other people are going to see the ad. Deal with it.

BTW, there were many, many people attending the Springdale games that weren't from Springdale, or whoever they were playing, so yes there was interest outside of town. And believe it or not, some alums live in fayetteville and Rogers. Go figure.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bknight33 on March 29, 2006, 01:00:29 pm
olddog its not that they are asking for money, it's that they spent so much money on amenities for their football program, and from what I gather their senior class, that people are having such a hard time understanding the need for state championship ring money.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: olddog79 on March 29, 2006, 01:12:27 pm
Quote from: bknight33 on March 29, 2006, 01:00:29 pm
olddog its not that they are asking for money, it's that they spent so much money on amenities for their football program, and from what I gather, their senior class that people are having a hard time understanding the need for state championship ring money.
I agree, the money was spent for the wrong stuff..no doubt. But it's gone now and the boys still have no ring. I am just trying to help correct a wrong and everyone is being all pissy about it. If you don't want to give to it.....then don't. And if someone has a better idea on getting the rings paid for...I'm open to suggestion, but i'm tried of all the belly aching.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: olddog79 on March 29, 2006, 01:16:35 pm
Quote from: constantine on March 29, 2006, 12:57:49 pm
Quote from: olddog79 on March 29, 2006, 12:53:23 pm
No one is begging NWA for money. If people want to give..great. if they don't...fine. But Springdale doesn't have a paper just for Springdale, so other people are going to see the ad. Deal with it.

BTW, there were many, many people attending the Springdale games that weren't from Springdale, or whoever they were playing, so yes there was interest outside of town. And believe it or not, some alums live in fayetteville and Rogers. Go figure.


Wow dude you are so smart.....i realize alumns live out of the town.....and most came to see the "fab five" not sdale......without them no one would have cared like they did........and they can get stuff in just sdale papers.....by going to the sdale branch of the morning news and they would have it in the sdale papers only......bc there are different parts of the morning news......Fay did that a few years back when they were having a special fund raiser for several of the school atheltic teams, and it appeared in the Fay papers only....so dont try and justify what sdale did.....and by asking for donations that is a form of begging......sdale made their bed now they have to sleep in it too
Like i said before...if you don't like it...I DON'T CARE!
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bulldogs1159 on March 29, 2006, 02:35:48 pm
Quote from: constantine on March 29, 2006, 01:03:55 pm
Quote from: bknight33 on March 29, 2006, 01:00:29 pm
olddog its not that they are asking for money, it's that they spent so much money on amenities for their football program, and from what I gather, their senior class that people are having a hard time understanding the need for state championship ring money.


It is the fact that they blew the money on other things.....and now are asking outside the town like sdale was a regional team for all of NWA.....which it wasnt......if they blew the money then the school and the booster club needs to find another way than to ask outside the town......most businesses that did donate money will prob have a hard time donating more money.......especially if they are wondering what they did with all the money they had
Wow I didn't realize you had access to the finance report from the booster club. You are so in the know.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bknight33 on March 29, 2006, 03:19:38 pm
Yes I am in the know.  Not hard. Go out and find one of the senior football players and ask them what they received from the booster club.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: BiGgUy123 on March 29, 2006, 05:02:44 pm
Quote
The point is sdale has no right to ask NWA for help.......no one cares if they blew their money......make the school and the booster club come up with it since they are responsible for the missuse of funds..........if anyone needs to right the wrond it is the booster club......let them do something even if it is out of their own pockets.....but dont ask NWA or the even businesses who gave especially for that to give more bc the booster club blew the money.......its on the booster club to find alternative means not the town or NWA
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How do you suppose the booster club can get the money by not asking the community?
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: olddog79 on March 29, 2006, 06:40:01 pm
Quote from: constantine on March 29, 2006, 06:19:05 pm
if you knew the amount of money they had......and blew.......they have no right to ask businesses and people for more money if they blew the funds......
You do not determine my rights, nor anyone else's.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Forked Tongue on March 29, 2006, 07:00:33 pm
olddog just keeps pawing away at this thread though he claims not to care and has already stated his final thoughts.  Cares more than he lets on............  Simply can not let a comment go by that he thinks is negtive about the Red Machine.  Even when it's the truth.  Bottom line for him is he simply can't take anything being said that he doesn't like.  I figure he was the bully on his block growing up 35 years ago.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Golfhog37 on March 29, 2006, 07:31:05 pm
Const I would like to know how you know how much money that Springdale spent or do you really know I am guessing you are just running off at the mouth.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bulldogs1159 on March 29, 2006, 07:59:50 pm
Quote from: Forked Tongue on March 29, 2006, 07:00:33 pm
olddog just keeps pawing away at this thread though he claims not to care and has already stated his final thoughts. Cares more than he lets on............ Simply can not let a comment go by that he thinks is negtive about the Red Machine. Even when it's the truth. Bottom line for him is he simply can't take anything being said that he doesn't like. I figure he was the bully on his block growing up 35 years ago.
Wow personal shots. Someone didn't have anything else to add to the argument.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bulldogs1159 on March 29, 2006, 08:47:43 pm
Quote from: constantine on March 29, 2006, 08:43:53 pm
Quote from: Golfhog37 on March 29, 2006, 07:31:05 pm
Const I would like to know how you know how much money that Springdale spent or do you really know I am guessing you are just running off at the mouth.

Like is said earlier i have a relative that is one of the head people for the sdale booster club......so i know what i am talking about......i am not running anything off but the truth
Well crap then we better not argue with you. ::)
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Golfhog37 on March 29, 2006, 09:24:14 pm
Then who is the head of the Booster Club if you are so informed. Because I could possibly be close to the situation.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: dogfan07 on March 29, 2006, 09:28:37 pm
i heard that a parent from the team got close to 30k in money from singed footballs. i think walmart ppl bought them don't know for sure. a guy bought one for 1300. they had 15k paid for already.so that should pay for if that is true.the total for the rings are around 46.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Golfhog37 on March 29, 2006, 09:33:39 pm
I'm not sure about the 30k I do think they had around the 15k. So if a parent had raised that kind of money then what did they spend that on.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: dogfan07 on March 29, 2006, 09:50:31 pm
lol. some head guys up at wally world in betonville bought some fballs.i guess it add up to around 30k. i guess you are not then const.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: dogfan07 on March 29, 2006, 09:55:22 pm
wally world as in wal-mart.i guess you are not lien then const.you dont know what i meant.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: dogfan07 on March 29, 2006, 09:59:12 pm
well i talked to the person tongiht at chruch about the banker that bought the 1300 dollar ball, and she said someone got 30k from walmart this week or its coming in late this week or early week. that is as far as i heard.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: waltflanagansdog on March 30, 2006, 12:24:34 pm
Where did all the money come from that sent S-Dale to California for a 7 on 7 tournament?

Did Nike pay for them to fly out?

I just find this whole situation very ironic.  Malzahn's the coach (and more importantly the AD), the program gets anything they want.  Johnson and Wood take over and it's like everyone who supported the program disappeared.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: couch potato on March 30, 2006, 03:00:09 pm
I have already said my piece but this is an interesting angle.  Good post.
Quote from: waltflanagansdog on March 30, 2006, 12:24:34 pm
Where did all the money come from that sent S-Dale to California for a 7 on 7 tournament?

Did Nike pay for them to fly out?

I just find this whole situation very ironic. Malzahn's the coach (and more importantly the AD), the program gets anything they want. Johnson and Wood take over and it's like everyone who supported the program disappeared.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: dogfan07 on March 30, 2006, 04:30:59 pm
yes springdale was invited to go to cali so nike paid for them to fly out. all the money they had went to the banquet because of beck campbell spent around 20k on it.thats where the money went
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: warpaint on March 30, 2006, 05:16:41 pm
Quote from: dogfan07 on March 30, 2006, 04:30:59 pm
yes springdale was invited to go to cali so nike paid for them to fly out. all the money they had went to the banquet because of beck campbell spent around 20k on it.thats where the money went

That's a pretty big accusation. I hope you have your facts straight.

And I'm pretty sure you don't.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: delerium on March 30, 2006, 06:41:34 pm
It's true. Most of that was invested in gifts bought for seniors.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: dogfan07 on March 30, 2006, 07:44:45 pm
warpaint i think you need to get you stuff straight befor you startin say i dont.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: warpaint on March 30, 2006, 10:37:52 pm
Quote from: dogfan07 on March 30, 2006, 07:44:45 pm
warpaint i think you need to get you stuff straight befor you startin say i dont.

You might want to get YOUR information straight young'en, before you start spewing out accusations. You might also want to keep in mind that parents and coaches are reading this board.
You act like you are in the know of everything, but you seem to be throwing out opinions instead of fact.

Make sure when you present something as fact; that it is fact. Not some opinion that your mommy or daddy told you.


Now, with that said, when was the last Springdale Booster Club meeting? I don't remember one.
Anyone attend? Anyone have the minutes from the meeting?


Don't think so.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: warpaint on March 30, 2006, 10:44:22 pm
Quote from: dogfan07 on March 30, 2006, 04:30:59 pm
yes springdale was invited to go to cali so nike paid for them to fly out. all the money they had went to the banquet because of beck campbell spent around 20k on it.thats where the money went

Wrong.

Nike paid for some, not all of the players to go. Actually it was a lump some of money.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: The Buttgen on March 30, 2006, 11:05:42 pm
this may be off topic, and random, but what do the rings look like?
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: waltflanagansdog on March 31, 2006, 06:19:36 am
Quote from: The Buttgen on March 30, 2006, 11:05:42 pm
this may be off topic, and random, but what do the rings look like?

For the money they are asking, I bet Liberace would wear one.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Tony the Tiger on March 31, 2006, 02:12:35 pm
Quote from: warpaint on March 30, 2006, 10:44:22 pm
Quote from: dogfan07 on March 30, 2006, 04:30:59 pm
yes springdale was invited to go to cali so nike paid for them to fly out. all the money they had went to the banquet because of beck campbell spent around 20k on it.thats where the money went

Wrong.

Nike paid for some, not all of the players to go. Actually it was a lump some of money.
That must have been sum lump some!
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: dogfan07 on March 31, 2006, 07:19:14 pm
Quote from: warpaint on March 30, 2006, 10:44:22 pm
Quote from: dogfan07 on March 30, 2006, 04:30:59 pm
yes springdale was invited to go to cali so nike paid for them to fly out. all the money they had went to the banquet because of beck campbell spent around 20k on it.thats where the money went

Wrong.


Nike paid for some, not all of the players to go. Actually it was a lump some of money.

warpaint you are right that all players didnt go. some jrs like 3 and 4 stringers and the oline and dline guys didnt. but they had to raise money if you where not a skilled player to go.nike paid for every thing if you were a skilled player.


Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: HSFBF on March 31, 2006, 08:10:20 pm
Years ago our PARENTS bought the rings or jackets etc. after the school gave a simple letter. Some schools gave a jacket the first year you letter only,  then letters with stripes the second and third years.
So where are the parents in all this??
If a booster club was aware of the coaches' desires for a ring, that should have been taken into account all along...
But, the administration of SHS SURELY made a LOT OF MONEY at the gate and with concession stand revenues during all those sold out games. Where is the administration's help in this matter?
Bottom line, parents-booster club-administration. The community has already contributed with admission and season tickets and spending money at the games for food and drink..
How can Arkansas' best team of all time (as some have said) be in this situation? Seems like everything went their way except thinking ahead about rings. Other schools would have given their eye teeth to have had the booster club and gate receipts that this team had!  I agree that "other communities" should not have to contribute to SHS athletic problem. I doubt many are crying about what happened.. If Walmart or Tyson chips in I am afraid a dangerous precedent will be set for future community shortcomings..
   Come on parents, buy your son a Championship ring. I know the pride is there!!! ;)
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: dogfan07 on March 31, 2006, 08:52:22 pm
the booster club was drained. how many freaking times have springdale ppl have told this thread. some parents bought a 20k dollar banquet and that drained some of the money. coach johnson was thinking about getting new uni's but i don't think that will happen now. so read the comments before you say something about "wheres the booster club in all this"
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: ChiefChainGang on March 31, 2006, 09:44:58 pm
We're with you Springdale!!  You guys won and won big.....I tried to keep up with all the trash talk this past season but just couldn't hang.  Why right this very moment I'm lightin' up my best 25 cent cigar in honor of your football prowess and I'm lookin at a whole trailer (mobile home to you guys) full of pop bottles I collected on your behalf.  Mamma, Grandpa, Uncle Cephis, Aunt Jess, Carrie and her twins, Rufus and Cliff don't mind the mess cause if you guys need help we're here for ya.  Rufus's wife Charlene and her 6 kids complain some cause most of the bottles are in their corner of the bedroom.   I wrote letters to all my friends and they're collecting cans and bottles too.  As soon as I pay my phone bill and get my wall phone back on I'll make some calls.  Don't let those other guys get you down about asking fer help.  We uns here in the 6A South are wantin' to pay our due respects.  Wear them rings proud when you get em and don't let the fact you could spend 10 times more than anyone else in the state on Barbque and other what nots bother you....hear?  Get them poor boys their rings and don't ask no parents to help cause I'm sure if you're askin'....they ain't able to provide.  You'll have to met us halfway though....my truck cain't make it up that hill on the other side of Alma.  I'll meet ya at the Popeye Spinach place next Thursday about 3 o'clock.

Sincerely,

Chief and the Southern Boys
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: The Buttgen on March 31, 2006, 10:07:26 pm
Quote from: waltflanagansdog link=topic=47777.msg940377#msg940377 date=114380757
For the money they are asking, I bet Liberace would wear one.
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I would hope so. The outline of a bulldog made out of diamonds, and entirely 24K gold.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: waltflanagansdog on April 01, 2006, 06:38:41 am
ChiefChainGang:  Thanks for the laugh this AM!
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: ChiefChainGang on April 01, 2006, 07:10:19 am
You're welcome.......I just couldn't help myself.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bknight33 on April 03, 2006, 02:11:37 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Tony the Tiger on April 06, 2006, 05:22:55 pm
These things don't grow on trees...

(http://www.liberace.com/images/postcard3.jpg)

Question for DogFan07, "where's the Booster Club in all of this?"  ::)
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Golfhog37 on April 06, 2006, 06:39:24 pm
About where is the Administration on the ring matter, The Admin can not help pay for the rings that is considered a gift and they do for one they have to do for all. So they can not pay they have to be payed for by the Booster Club or the Parents or Private Donations. Also the Rings Are only 10K Rings not 24K. The reason they where trying to pay for them through the Booster Club is that all Parents might not be able to afford them. Not everone is as fortunate as other are.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: ChiefChainGang on April 06, 2006, 11:15:19 pm
How many state championship sports has Springdale got?  Come on, every school in the state buys their kids rings when they win.....it's only a gift if you can get someone else to tote the note.  You can't tell me Springdale's budget can't support buying rings for a full football team.  That is unless you have like 300 players.  I was at the championship game....I saw all the RV's, Lexussssss, Mercedes, Suburbans, Hummers, and the folks driving them.  What's the free lunch percentage at Springdale.....what's the percapita income, whats the average property tax ?  Nevermind...I'll look it up myself.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bulldogs1159 on April 06, 2006, 11:37:19 pm
Wow even hate us becasue of the cars some of us drive. Hey bub those kinds of cars are in every large city. And no the admin CANNOT buy rings for the teams.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: ChiefChainGang on April 06, 2006, 11:49:38 pm
So you got 27% free lunch, 998 million in property assessment, and a 16 to 1 student teacher ratio.    PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
tell me why you can't afford to buy your own rings and I'll shut up!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: ChiefChainGang on April 06, 2006, 11:59:46 pm
I'm sorry ....I got my figures wrong....50 % free lunch and 989 million in property value......
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bulldogs1159 on April 07, 2006, 01:35:36 am
Aside from a few nice neighborhoods Springdale is just like any other place with low income housing and apartments. The amount of apts in Springdale is ungodly. Belive me I deal with them everyday.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: footballfan-tastic on April 07, 2006, 08:52:17 am
Wouldn't they be able to pay for them out of money from concessions, such as coke machine or snack machine money?  That isn't money allocated by the state dept. of Ed, ought to be ok.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: ChiefChainGang on April 07, 2006, 11:24:43 am
They could pay for them out of gate receipts and parking.  That money is not dedicated.  I know lights are expensive but what was the average attendance? 
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: dogfan07 on April 07, 2006, 01:02:20 pm
they are thats where 10,000 came from. a bunch of the money from games like ticket sales,conesions and appeal went to the banquet. i dont no about the regular season but in playoffs 60% went to visitors and 20% to the AAA and 20% to the home team. and for the apartments sorry if i offend anyone but springdale has a very high mexican pop. that's where all the apartments go to and the don't pay for any thing like tax's and such things like. springdale has 6 neighborhoods that i can think of off the top of my head with high income homes not counting Haber district out west.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bulldogs1159 on April 07, 2006, 03:18:41 pm
Quote from: exorcist on April 07, 2006, 08:52:17 am
Wouldn't they be able to pay for them out of money from concessions, such as coke machine or snack machine money? That isn't money allocated by the state dept. of Ed, ought to be ok.
Quote from: ChiefChainGang on April 07, 2006, 11:24:43 am
They could pay for them out of gate receipts and parking. That money is not dedicated. I know lights are expensive but what was the average attendance?
Then complain about every other school that has to raise money for the rings. Surprise surprise people its not just a Springdale thing. Ask Southside 2002. No one made a huff about it then.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: dogfan07 on April 07, 2006, 06:06:29 pm
they are just saying stuff like this b/c we had this great yr and everyone is trying to find away to blast springdale aabout something.so they found this
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Bogey on April 10, 2006, 03:39:45 pm
Where is the booster club in all of this?   ;)


Just a suggestion, why not talk to the Hooten's about buying these rings?
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: olddog79 on April 10, 2006, 05:15:43 pm
Quote from: Bogey on April 10, 2006, 03:39:45 pm
Where is the booster club in all of this? ;)



Go back and read the first 4 pages or so. The answer is in there somewhere.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Bogey on April 11, 2006, 12:24:58 pm
Quote from: olddog79 on April 10, 2006, 05:15:43 pm
Quote from: Bogey on April 10, 2006, 03:39:45 pm
Where is the booster club in all of this? ;)



Go back and read the first 4 pages or so. The answer is in there somewhere.

LOL....I know, I was just trying to add a little humor to an obvious heated discussion.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: harborwho13 on April 11, 2006, 12:54:24 pm
well were gettin our rings tommrrow so nobody can make fun of sdale on this board anymore
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Tony the Tiger on April 11, 2006, 12:56:30 pm
Quote from: harborwho13 on April 11, 2006, 12:54:24 pm
well were gettin our rings tommrrow so nobody can make fun of sdale on this board anymore
You are one quick witted kid!
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Bogey on April 11, 2006, 01:59:22 pm
Regardless, I don't remember an add in the Central Arkansas edition of the Demozette asking for donations to buy Little Rock Central's rings, JA Fair's
rings or Cabot's rings.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Tony the Tiger on April 11, 2006, 02:06:55 pm
Quote from: Bogey on April 11, 2006, 01:59:22 pm
Regardless, I don't remember an add in the Central Arkansas edition of the Demozette asking for donations to buy Little Rock Central's rings, JA Fair's
rings or Cabot's rings.
Not that big of a deal at Central ;)
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Bogey on April 11, 2006, 02:10:40 pm
Quote from: Tony the Tiger on April 11, 2006, 02:06:55 pm
Quote from: Bogey on April 11, 2006, 01:59:22 pm
Regardless, I don't remember an add in the Central Arkansas edition of the Demozette asking for donations to buy Little Rock Central's rings, JA Fair's
rings or Cabot's rings.
Not that big of a deal at Central ;)

Easy now!  ;)
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bknittin on April 11, 2006, 02:12:53 pm
Quote from: harborwho13 on April 11, 2006, 12:54:24 pm
well were gettin our rings tommrrow so nobody can make fun of sdale on this board anymore

Notice he says "were gettin our rings", but his screen name is harborwho13. Has he defected before the ring ceremony?
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Bogey on April 11, 2006, 02:22:15 pm
Quote from: dogfan07 on March 30, 2006, 04:30:59 pm
all the money they had went to the banquet because of beck campbell spent around 20k on it.thats where the money went


In all seriousness, what did they spend $20,000.00 on for a banquet!?

Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: olddog79 on April 11, 2006, 03:38:15 pm
Quote from: Bogey on April 11, 2006, 02:22:15 pm
Quote from: dogfan07 on March 30, 2006, 04:30:59 pm
all the money they had went to the banquet because of beck campbell spent around 20k on it.thats where the money went


In all seriousness, what did they spend $20,000.00 on for a banquet!?


one word.....STRIPPERS!
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Ultimate Authority on April 11, 2006, 04:37:30 pm
I thought Beck was doing that for free
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: dogfan07 on April 11, 2006, 09:01:11 pm
oh ya you should of saw her dang gum.it was a sight to see.dont no but the dinner wasnt worth it tho.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: GrizzlyCarnes6 on April 12, 2006, 09:46:13 am
that sux for springdale
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: backdoor23 on April 12, 2006, 11:59:13 am
Quote from: bknittin on April 11, 2006, 02:12:53 pm
Quote from: harborwho13 on April 11, 2006, 12:54:24 pm
well were gettin our rings tommrrow so nobody can make fun of sdale on this board anymore

Notice he says "were gettin our rings", but his screen name is harborwho13. Has he defected before the ring ceremony?

He's making fun of Har-Ber... nice try but just a wee bit short
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Bogey on April 12, 2006, 01:13:48 pm
Quote from: olddog79 on April 11, 2006, 03:38:15 pm
Quote from: Bogey on April 11, 2006, 02:22:15 pm
Quote from: dogfan07 on March 30, 2006, 04:30:59 pm
all the money they had went to the banquet because of beck campbell spent around 20k on it.thats where the money went


In all seriousness, what did they spend $20,000.00 on for a banquet!?


one word.....STRIPPERS!
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Bogey on April 12, 2006, 01:16:27 pm
Quote from: olddog79 on April 11, 2006, 03:38:15 pm
Quote from: Bogey on April 11, 2006, 02:22:15 pm
Quote from: dogfan07 on March 30, 2006, 04:30:59 pm
all the money they had went to the banquet because of beck campbell spent around 20k on it.thats where the money went


In all seriousness, what did they spend $20,000.00 on for a banquet!?


one word.....STRIPPERS!


Classic!  A clap for you Olddog!

(For 10k, was she really hot, or were there just ALOT of them?)
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: sdbulldogs13 on April 12, 2006, 03:07:00 pm
Too funny!
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bulldogs1159 on April 12, 2006, 05:07:08 pm
Quote from: Bogey on April 12, 2006, 01:16:27 pm
Quote from: olddog79 on April 11, 2006, 03:38:15 pm
Quote from: Bogey on April 11, 2006, 02:22:15 pm
Quote from: dogfan07 on March 30, 2006, 04:30:59 pm
all the money they had went to the banquet because of beck campbell spent around 20k on it.thats where the money went


In all seriousness, what did they spend $20,000.00 on for a banquet!?


one word.....STRIPPERS!


Classic! A clap for you Olddog!

(For 10k, was she really hot, or were there just ALOT of them?)
It was a bevy. Hard to come up for air.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Bogey on April 13, 2006, 11:49:41 am
Quote from: CAO MX2™© on April 12, 2006, 05:07:08 pm
Quote from: Bogey on April 12, 2006, 01:16:27 pm
Quote from: olddog79 on April 11, 2006, 03:38:15 pm
Quote from: Bogey on April 11, 2006, 02:22:15 pm
Quote from: dogfan07 on March 30, 2006, 04:30:59 pm
all the money they had went to the banquet because of beck campbell spent around 20k on it.thats where the money went


In all seriousness, what did they spend $20,000.00 on for a banquet!?


one word.....STRIPPERS!


Classic! A clap for you Olddog!

(For 10k, was she really hot, or were there just ALOT of them?)
It was a bevy. Hard to come up for air.


HaHaHa!!!  Harder to breathe than last August in 2-a-days!
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: harborwho13 on April 14, 2006, 12:49:39 pm
guys dont let your jealousy for springdale get to u. you guys have a shot to get yur rings next year but until then why cant u just give a team the respect they deserve.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Bogey on April 14, 2006, 01:28:30 pm
Quote from: harborwho13 on April 14, 2006, 12:49:39 pm
guys dont let your jealousy for springdale get to u. you guys have a shot to get yur rings next year but until then why cant u just give a team the respect they deserve.

Huh?
Title: Let's all Pitch-In and Help out "The Pride of NWA"
Post by: Quite Frankly on April 16, 2006, 11:12:29 am
Sports fans,
     I'm writing to you on behalf of the Springdale High School athletic program.  By now we are all aware of the great need to cover the expense of our needed and necessary fancy championship rings.  Despite providing our players with incredible support, attention and praise for the last 2 years it's become obvious that we need people from outside of the program to put aside their own plans to support their local high school and assist us in our Ring Fund.  Despite a couple of years of high facility upgrades and incredible community support with your money spent attending our games you simply DID NOT come through enough to satisfy the administration and the powers that run our booster club.  Despite knowing all season that a ring was going to be needed, we went ahead and put our faith in you kind people and blew all of the money we had raised through out the last few years on other things and put our blind faith in you guys to step forward and do the right thing and help our cause to buy the gaudiest rings possible for all 417 players, managers, coaches, wives, girl firends, cheerleaders and selected booster club bigwigs and secretaries.   It's time for you to do your duty!
     If you are really feeing generous, we also have other fundraisers going on for noble causes that support players and families of the football program.  Please, do not spend your money at home.  Send it to us! 
     I'd personally like to send out a great big thank you to the basketball programs(and other sports) at SHS that allowed us to walk all over you that last few years.  We appreciate the way that you let football be the supreme focus as you put aside your own aspiriations to do things for your programs and let us spend the money on our GREAT TEAM.  Please allow me to thank you for letting us use money that might have been earmarked for the lesser sports.
     It was truly inspiring that we have been able to galvanize all of Springdale and NWA behind the Red Machine.  It's our goal to keep the program on the front of the sports page 365 days per year at the expense of all other sports and towns.

Yours Truly,

SHS Booster Club

P.S.  We are about to begin our compaign to raise funds for our trip to Ohio next year.  We feel the need to fly first class(what else?) and to stay at a 5-Star hotel with fine dining for all 188 members of the team.  Please save your tax refund so you can be ready to pay when you are called upon.

Title: Re: Let's all Pitch-In and Help out "The Pride of NWA"
Post by: bulldogs1159 on April 16, 2006, 02:13:17 pm
Can we say redundant post?
Title: Re: Let's all Pitch-In and Help out "The Pride of NWA"
Post by: Quite Frankly on April 16, 2006, 02:25:06 pm
Over 6000 posts and calling me redundant?  You repeat yourself repeatedly.  Including ignoring repeated FF admin warnings regarding bandwith (with those cigars).  Check the mirror prior to making fun of a poster because we've all listen to your crap way to many times.  Looking forward to your 7000th post or original material later this week.

Ask some SHS parents that don't have football players what they think of this selfish mentality.  The 3 I know(2 basketball and 1 baseball) are sick of the selfishness.  And that my fellow poster is new material. 

Have a good Easter and good luck with the new effort to raise money from outsiders to go to Ohio.

Another attempt tp deflect anyone or anything said about the Red Machine.
Title: Re: Let's all Pitch-In and Help out "The Pride of NWA"
Post by: bulldogs1159 on April 16, 2006, 02:34:43 pm
Hmm trying to attack me and rehashing something that allready has its own thread? All old news. You should really take a long hard look in the mirror and try to figure out why you get all in a huff over what Springdale does.
Title: Re: Let's all Pitch-In and Help out "The Pride of NWA"
Post by: RHS on April 16, 2006, 03:05:06 pm
Won't take one side or the other, but I don't understand the reasoning for this post, since it did have it's own thread that has obviously been left alone.
Title: Re: Let's all Pitch-In and Help out "The Pride of NWA"
Post by: bulldogs1159 on April 16, 2006, 03:08:53 pm
Quote from: RHS on April 16, 2006, 03:05:06 pm
Won't take one side or the other, but I don't understand the reasoning for this post, since it did have it's own thread that has obviously been left alone.
She wasn't happy that the first thread had run its course and just wanted to get some more Springdale bashing in while she can. Its ok hate if she wants, were still one of the classiest programs out there.
Title: Re: Let's all Pitch-In and Help out "The Pride of NWA"
Post by: Boys_From_OK on April 16, 2006, 03:22:59 pm
My son finished his career at Springdale last year and both his younger sisters play volleyball and softball in the district. I will be the first to say that I was spoiled never having to raise money for the football team. When the girls moved up to HS level we had to do all kinds of things to raise money for the teams.  But it is my understanding that  the football program is self sufficient. i.e. no money comes from the district. It is all from ticket sales and the booster club. Which is the FOOTBALL booster club. All the other sports have thier own booster clubs as well and that is what helps pay for tournamnets, uniforms and travel, etc.. I have been on both ends and I can say as soon as baseball, basketball, soccer, volleyball, tennis, softball and so on can bring 5000+ to the games and thier booster clubs can bring in the money that the football club does then they will have more things like football does.

Point is don't bash the district for the booster clubs actions the district has no or little control over the booster club's actions. The football program recieves no money from the district from the Jr. Highs on up. Right or Wrong to ask for help with the rings I can't say. But I don't see bashing them for asking. If people want to help they will if they don't they won't. No one is forcing anybody to not " spend money at home."
Title: Re: Let's all Pitch-In and Help out "The Pride of NWA"
Post by: halcyon on April 16, 2006, 07:48:05 pm
All i've got to say is quite frankly, I think Quite Frankly is an idiot. Go to SHS and try talking trash.

hahahaha........"Im not redundant man, you are! Im so uber 1337! I could own your face!"

rofl.
Title: Re: Let's all Pitch-In and Help out "The Pride of NWA"
Post by: pordlawnnyl on April 16, 2006, 09:00:26 pm
Quote from: Quite Frankly on April 16, 2006, 11:12:29 am
Sports fans,

P.S.  We are about to begin our compaign to raise funds for our trip to Ohio next year.  We feel the need to fly first class(what else?) and to stay at a 5-Star hotel with fine dining for all 188 members of the team.  Please save your tax refund so you can be ready to pay when you are called upon.



Believe me, the Booster Club does not have to raise money for the  football players to go to Ohio.  The organization who asked them to participate, is flying them up to Ohio and putting them up in the hotel.  And as for the parents, I believe they are all trying to find their own way to Ohio.

It is really ashame next years team is going to suffer because of what has happened this past season. :(
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: xletmeknow on April 18, 2006, 01:03:19 am
Quote from: pordlawnnyl on April 16, 2006, 09:00:26 pm
Quote from: Quite Frankly on April 16, 2006, 11:12:29 am
Sports fans,

P.S.  We are about to begin our compaign to raise funds for our trip to Ohio next year.  We feel the need to fly first class(what else?) and to stay at a 5-Star hotel with fine dining for all 188 members of the team.  Please save your tax refund so you can be ready to pay when you are called upon.



Believe me, the Booster Club does not have to raise money for the  football players to go to Ohio.  The organization who asked them to participate, is flying them up to Ohio and putting them up in the hotel.  And as for the parents, I believe they are all trying to find their own way to Ohio.

It is really ashame next years team is going to suffer because of what has happened this past season. :(

Man, it seems to me pord but this subject to rest!
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: 46counterblast on August 10, 2006, 06:50:44 am
I didn't seem like a bad idea to ask for money in an ad, because of the mass number of people seeing it would increase your chances of a return in some money. But you shouldn't be asking for money when you probably bought 150 rings. when you had an 80 player team. You didn't have to get the janitor a ring i dont care how many trash cans he emptied or how hard he worked to support you on your quest to the championship.
I just love these posts i think this is so funny. Springdale begging for money! HA HA HA!
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bulldogs1159 on November 19, 2008, 09:26:20 pm
Bump :)


Just for someone who wanted to get on me about my post count.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Quite Frankly on November 19, 2008, 09:31:29 pm
Dang, dug that up huh?

I would say I was sorry if I actually was.  :)

Good dig.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Baitshop on November 19, 2008, 09:35:13 pm
I remember this one.........(sigh)..........good times.......... :P :P


bulldog1159........tell me you guys aren't still fundraising??..??..??
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: bulldogs1159 on November 19, 2008, 09:38:26 pm
Quote from: baitshop on November 19, 2008, 09:35:13 pm
I remember this one.........(sigh)..........good times.......... :P :P


bulldog1159........tell me you guys aren't still fundraising??..??..??
Crossing the fingers. My 2008 playoffs ring is also on back order.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: olddog79 on November 19, 2008, 10:45:57 pm
Not this again....(silent scream)
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Earl is my Hero!! on November 19, 2008, 11:45:35 pm
Can someone from Springdale give me their contact at the ADG?

The Bentonville Booster Club wants to purchase customized charter-type buses for our athletic program, and with the economy like it is, many of our members with sizeable holdings are feeling the pain right now.

We thought perhaps since our facilities are The Pride of NWA, maybe a few folks in the surrounding communities that work for hourly wages may not be experiencing the financial pain we are, and would like to donate to our efforts.

No Donation is Too Large!!!

Please forward to:
Earl is My Hero
PO Box 69
Bentonville, AR 72712

Please make checks payable to cash
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Billyo62 on November 20, 2008, 09:01:52 am
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on November 19, 2008, 11:45:35 pm
Can someone from Springdale give me their contact at the ADG?

The Bentonville Booster Club wants to purchase customized chater-type buses for our athletic program, and with the economy like it is, many of our members with sizeable holdings are feeling the pain right now.

We thought perhaps since our facilities are The Pride of NWA, maybe a few folks in the surrounding communities that work for hourly wages may not be experiencing the financial pain we are, and would like to donate to our efforts.

No Donation is Too Large!!!

Please forward to:
Earl is My Hero
PO Box 69
Bentonville, AR 72712

Please make checks payable to cash

Send Money Today!!!

Nothing is to good for our " Over-Rated", "Under Achieving", " Never seen a Real Defence" Tiger Football Team.   ;D   ;D   ;D



Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Ballfan2 on November 20, 2008, 09:48:22 am
Joking aside, I think one thing Bentonville does that is great is they have one Athletic Booster board that serves all sports.  So, everyone does benefit from the football $$$.  All our teams have first rate facilities - not just football.   And, I believe to date, the rings for any athletic team that wins a state championship team are for the most part paid for by the Boosters. Kudos to the BHS Athletic Booster Board!!
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: olddog79 on November 20, 2008, 09:55:30 am
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on November 19, 2008, 11:45:35 pm
Can someone from Springdale give me their contact at the ADG?

The Bentonville Booster Club wants to purchase customized charter-type buses for our athletic program, and with the economy like it is, many of our members with sizeable holdings are feeling the pain right now.

We thought perhaps since our facilities are The Pride of NWA, maybe a few folks in the surrounding communities that work for hourly wages may not be experiencing the financial pain we are, and would like to donate to our efforts.

No Donation is Too Large!!!

Please forward to:
Earl is My Hero
PO Box 69
Bentonville, AR 72712

Please make checks payable to cash
You're out of luck. he doesn't work for the ADG anymore. :'(
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: BB9 on November 20, 2008, 10:09:00 am
Seems you public schools are having all kinds of problems. :D

Glad to know the witch was arguing with posters for the last 2 years. ;D
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Billyo62 on November 20, 2008, 10:10:44 am
Quote from: Ballfan2 on November 20, 2008, 09:48:22 am
Joking aside, I think one thing Bentonville does that is great is they have one Athletic Booster board that serves all sports.  So, everyone does benefit from the football $$$.  All our teams have first rate facilities - not just football.   And, I believe to date, the rings for any athletic team that wins a state championship team are for the most part paid for by the Boosters. Kudos to the BHS Athletic Booster Board!!

I will second that!
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: BB9 on November 20, 2008, 10:14:26 am
The other schools should take notice of what Bentonville does.  I will agree they have the BEST facilities around.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Earl is my Hero!! on November 20, 2008, 10:16:28 am
Quote from: Ballfan2 on November 20, 2008, 09:48:22 am
Joking aside, I think one thing Bentonville does that is great is they have one Athletic Booster board that serves all sports.  So, everyone does benefit from the football $$$.  All our teams have first rate facilities - not just football.   And, I believe to date, the rings for any athletic team that wins a state championship team are for the most part paid for by the Boosters. Kudos to the BHS Athletic Booster Board!!

And may they we have to purchase many many more!
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: Denny Crane on November 20, 2008, 03:24:50 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on November 19, 2008, 09:38:26 pm
Quote from: baitshop on November 19, 2008, 09:35:13 pm
I remember this one.........(sigh)..........good times.......... :P :P


bulldog1159........tell me you guys aren't still fundraising??..??..??
Crossing the fingers. My 2008 playoffs ring is also on back order.

1159 PM me.
Title: Re: I love this.......Springdale begs for money for rings
Post by: stattracker on November 20, 2008, 06:58:30 pm
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on November 19, 2008, 11:45:35 pm
Can someone from Springdale give me their contact at the ADG?

The Bentonville Booster Club wants to purchase customized charter-type buses for our athletic program, and with the economy like it is, many of our members with sizeable holdings are feeling the pain right now.

We thought perhaps since our facilities are The Pride of NWA, maybe a few folks in the surrounding communities that work for hourly wages may not be experiencing the financial pain we are, and would like to donate to our efforts.

No Donation is Too Large!!!

Please forward to:
Earl is My Hero
PO Box 69
Bentonville, AR 72712

Please make checks payable to cash

Ya'll think he's joking. That is his real address. I have mailed Bribes I meant payment for games called before.