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Nettleton @ Pocahontas Week 1

Started by bigchief72455, July 29, 2016, 12:41:17 am

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tmycjy

Pocahontas 35 nettleton 20 is what my computer is saying right now reamber the number can change at anytime

Grond

Pocahontas has a very good football program. Year in and year out, they could probably beat 1/3 of the 5A programs in the state.

I think Pocahontas will try to overpower Nettleton, which they are capable of doing. Pocy will line up and pound away with the running game.

For Nettleton to win, I think they have to do two things:

1) CONSISTENT PASSING GAME - Nettleton may have a speed advantage with their receivers; which means nothing if you don't have completions. This would help Nettleton to score quickly, and put more pressure on the Pocy offense to speed up their game.

2) GAMBLE ON DEFENSE - Mix the defense up, run blitz's, etc., to get quantity over power. Pocy does an excellent job of carrying out backfield fakes (a lost art), and they will make Nettleton pay dearly if Nettleton defense over-pursues.

tmycjy

Quote from: Grond on July 29, 2016, 09:45:25 am
Pocahontas has a very good football program. Year in and year out, they could probably beat 1/3 of the 5A programs in the state.

I think Pocahontas will try to overpower Nettleton, which they are capable of doing. Pocy will line up and pound away with the running game.

For Nettleton to win, I think they have to do two things:

1) CONSISTENT PASSING GAME - Nettleton may have a speed advantage with their receivers; which means nothing if you don't have completions. This would help Nettleton to score quickly, and put more pressure on the Pocy offense to speed up their game.

2) GAMBLE ON DEFENSE - Mix the defense up, run blitz's, etc., to get quantity over power. Pocy does an excellent job of carrying out backfield fakes (a lost art), and they will make Nettleton pay dearly if Nettleton defense over-pursues.

Not trying to make u mad but Pocahontas did play in are class in 1996 and 1997 and was 1-9 in 96 and 4-6 in 97

Overdahill

Quote from: tmycjy on July 29, 2016, 07:21:21 pm
Not trying to make u mad but Pocahontas did play in are class in 1996 and 1997 and was 1-9 in 96 and 4-6 in 97

perfect 5/20 or 1/3 :)

Blazer51

From 2007-2011 they weren't very good either. We beat them in 2010 bad, and in 2011 I believe we beat them again and we were horrible that year...

bigchief72455

Quote from: tmycjy on July 29, 2016, 07:21:21 pm
Not trying to make u mad but Pocahontas did play in are class in 1996 and 1997 and was 1-9 in 96 and 4-6 in 97
I wouldn't make an assessment about a team over how they did 20 years ago.

bigchief72455

Last season they were 10-1. As well as the season before.

tmycjy

Quote from: bigchief72455 on July 30, 2016, 03:09:40 am
I wouldn't make an assessment about a team over how they did 20 years ago.

I agree with u but there making it sound like the could beat school like Wynne, batesville, Blytheville , Pulaski academy , LR McClellan , LR Christian , Alma, Camden I just don't know

GHS_08

Quote from: tmycjy on July 30, 2016, 07:20:36 am
I agree with u but there making it sound like the could beat school like Wynne, batesville, Blytheville , Pulaski academy , LR McClellan , LR Christian , Alma, Camden I just don't know

They beat Blytheville in a preseason benefit game last year.

ricepig

Quote from: GHS_08 on July 30, 2016, 10:09:39 am
They beat Blytheville in a preseason benefit game last year.

Those count for anything??

Idoknow

Quote from: tmycjy on July 30, 2016, 07:20:36 am
I agree with u but there making it sound like the could beat school like Wynne, batesville, Blytheville , Pulaski academy , LR McClellan , LR Christian , Alma, Camden I just don't know
Read more carefully! I think he said 1/3 of the teams, I don't think he's talking about the top echelon of the teams you have listed.

GHS_08

Quote from: ricepig on July 30, 2016, 10:38:59 am
Those count for anything??

No they don't count on your record but most of them are played like real games not just a glorified scrimmage and Pocahontas was the better team on the field that day. I was there.

bigchief72455

Quote from: tmycjy on July 30, 2016, 07:20:36 am
I agree with u but there making it sound like the could beat school like Wynne, batesville, Blytheville , Pulaski academy , LR McClellan , LR Christian , Alma, Camden I just don't know
They could play close or beat a few of those teams you just listed.

Grond

July 30, 2016, 08:55:01 pm #14 Last Edit: July 31, 2016, 07:41:09 am by Grond
Quote from: tmycjy on July 30, 2016, 07:20:36 am
I agree with u but there making it sound like the could beat school like Wynne, batesville, Blytheville , Pulaski academy , LR McClellan , LR Christian , Alma, Camden I just don't know

No worries, tmycjy; your comments are usually pretty intelligent. I realize that "disagreeing" is not the same as "disrespecting".  ;)

I don't think Pocahontas can beat Wynne or Batesville; I was thinking more about other 5A schools.

The Pocahontas I have seen in recent years (2012 thru 2015) has been very well coached. They make a game plan, and the players execute. For example, the Pocy QB continues to run, even after handing off the ball. He does a good job of 'selling the fake'. Nobody quits on a play; everyone does their task.

Nettleton seems more likely to "live in the moment", rather than "follow the plan". In other words, depending on "athleticism" to make a play rather than "discipline". This style of football works, as long as you face less disciplined teams.

bigchief72455

It's not just that the offense can put up numbers. The defense has shut down  their opponents as well.

The_Pioneer

We heard the same things about Valley View when they moved up.  So far, they aren't competitive.

bigchief72455

Quote from: The_Pioneer on July 31, 2016, 06:15:47 pm
We heard the same things about Valley View when they moved up.  So far, they aren't competitive.
VV had the timing of moving up and going kaput at the same time. I don't think they would fair well in the 4A now either.

beach bum

Quote from: bigchief72455 on July 31, 2016, 07:00:20 pm
VV had the timing of moving up and going kaput at the same time. I don't think they would fair well in the 4A now either.

They would still get a 3 seed....

OB11

Quote from: beach bum on July 31, 2016, 10:12:37 pm
They would still get a 3 seed....

No doubt they would be a playoff team in that conference every year.

bigchief72455

Pocahontas could easily be at least a 3 seed in the 5A east. It is not that tough a conference either.

Blazer51

Quote from: bigchief72455 on July 31, 2016, 11:41:44 pm
Pocahontas could easily be at least a 3 seed in the 5A east. It is not that tough a conference either.

Pocahontas would beat Paragould &gct for sure
Possibly beat: FC, nettleton, and vv
No chance against: batesville, blythville, or wynne

Blazer51

Quote from: The_Pioneer on July 31, 2016, 06:15:47 pm
We heard the same things about Valley View when they moved up.  So far, they aren't competitive.

If we are going to be competitive at all within the next few years this
Year and next will be put years to do it I believe. It's been a while since I've seen this much talent on a vv team. I hope they can just come together and play as one!

bigchief72455

Quote from: Blazer51 on August 01, 2016, 01:35:05 pm
Pocahontas would beat Paragould &gct for sure
Possibly beat: FC, nettleton, and vv
No chance against: batesville, blythville, or wynne
They could beat Blytheville.

The_Pioneer

Blah blah blah.  You can sing it, but you never did bring it when you had the chance. 

GHS_08

Quote from: Blazer51 on August 01, 2016, 01:35:05 pm
Pocahontas would beat Paragould &gct for sure
Possibly beat: FC, nettleton, and vv
No chance against: batesville, blythville, or wynne

The beat Blytheville last year 26-14.

ricepig

Quote from: GHS_08 on August 02, 2016, 10:07:32 am
The beat Blytheville last year 26-14.

Really?? It doesn't show up on the official schedule?? Ah, that's right, it was a scrimmage game.....if one didn't know better, they would have accused you from being from Shiloh.

GHS_08

Quote from: ricepig on August 02, 2016, 10:29:22 am
Really?? It doesn't show up on the official schedule?? Ah, that's right, it was a scrimmage game.....if one didn't know better, they would have accused you from being from Shiloh.

It was a AAA benefit game. It doesn't matter if it was an official game or not. Blythevilles starters played Pokey starters for 4 quarters and the redskins were better.  The Jv teams ran 10 plays each at halftime. Pocahontas would finish top 3 in the 5A east.

MDXPHD

I hadn't clicked on this thread because I thought it was just about the game in the title. It got a lot of attention and I got curious. Pokey could compete in the 5A east, for the 4th seed, every single year I'm sure. They would get embarrassed by Batesville and Wynne most years. They just need to stay where they are..

ricepig

Quote from: GHS_08 on August 02, 2016, 10:50:17 am
It was a AAA benefit game. It doesn't matter if it was an official game or not. Blythevilles starters played Pokey starters for 4 quarters and the redskins were better.  The Jv teams ran 10 plays each at halftime. Pocahontas would finish top 3 in the 5A east.

Ok, since you say so, but I figure it does matter on an official game or not, on strategy and rotation. I guess it will just be a difference of opinions, since they don't play in a real game.

tmycjy

Quote from: bigchief72455 on July 30, 2016, 01:29:11 pm
They could play close or beat a few of those teams you just listed.

Hey just went threw the number this how it would go for Pocahontas

Wynne  27-28 L
Batesville 21-31 L
Blytheville v 31-21 W
P.a. 17-48 L
LR McClellan. 22-41 L
LR Christian 21-42 L
Alma 21-35 L
Camden 41-24 W
Hope 27-40 L
Morrilton 28-38 L

For a season total of 2-8 lot closer then I though maybe u could don't know if u could come at year in and year out

GHS_08

Quote from: ricepig on August 02, 2016, 12:30:05 pm
Ok, since you say so, but I figure it does matter on an official game or not, on strategy and rotation. I guess it will just be a difference of opinions, since they don't play in a real game.

I know. Just trying to stir things up  ;D

bigchief72455

Quote from: tmycjy on August 02, 2016, 02:35:53 pm
Hey just went threw the number this how it would go for Pocahontas

Wynne  27-28 L
Batesville 21-31 L
Blytheville v 31-21 W
P.a. 17-48 L
LR McClellan. 22-41 L
LR Christian 21-42 L
Alma 21-35 L
Camden 41-24 W
Hope 27-40 L
Morrilton 28-38 L

For a season total of 2-8 lot closer then I though maybe u could don't know if u could come at year in and year out
So by those numbers they won be a 3 or possible 2 seed from the 5A East.

bigchief72455

Quote from: MDXPHD on August 02, 2016, 11:17:19 am
I hadn't clicked on this thread because I thought it was just about the game in the title. It got a lot of attention and I got curious. Pokey could compete in the 5A east, for the 4th seed, every single year I'm sure. They would get embarrassed by Batesville and Wynne most years. They just need to stay where they are..
We pretty much have to stay where AAA says we stay.

Overdahill

Quote from: tmycjy on August 02, 2016, 02:35:53 pm
Hey just went threw the number this how it would go for Pocahontas

Wynne  27-28 L
Batesville 21-31 L
Blytheville v 31-21 W
P.a. 17-48 L
LR McClellan. 22-41 L
LR Christian 21-42 L
Alma 21-35 L
Camden 41-24 W
Hope 27-40 L
Morrilton 28-38 L

For a season total of 2-8 lot closer then I though maybe u could don't know if u could come at year in and year out

I guess I for sure don't understand this system unless it is all based on last year. I can't see LRCA being considered stronger than Wynne or Batesville this year unless it is just based on last year's one trick pony

bigchief72455


j-mann raider 02

seems like it   Nettleton Won 42-20   

A D M


bigchief72455

Gotta convert other teams mistakes into points. That hurt Pocahontas tonight.

Grond

How was the Nettleton passing attack? Were they more successful with the run?

bigchief72455

Quote from: Grond on September 02, 2016, 11:54:39 pm
How was the Nettleton passing attack? Were they more successful with the run?
They passed the ball well. They can run the trap well also. They are still having trouble with their snap. They fumbled a few times from the snap.

ISU7

Quote from: bigchief72455 on August 01, 2016, 01:42:23 pm

They could beat Blytheville.
No way especially this season. Clark would run all over them..

Chief-Chickasaw

Quote from: ISU7 on September 03, 2016, 02:43:46 am
No way especially this season. Clark would run all over them..
He did run all over them and Blytheville handled them pretty easy in a benefit game that doesn't matter. Year in and year out Pokey is a good program. They could complete for the 3 or 4 most years. Everyone remember Blytheville is a 4A school playing in the 5A just waiting on the count to drop.

The_Pioneer

Appears Pocy is a 6 or 7 seed in the 5A East after all.

MDXPHD

 
Quote from: bigchief72455 on July 31, 2016, 11:41:44 pm
Pocahontas could easily be at least a 3 seed in the 5A east. It is not that tough a conference either.

Lol.

Pokey03

Quote from: The_Pioneer on September 03, 2016, 06:50:06 am
Appears Pocy is a 6 or 7 seed in the 5A East after all.
Who could have been 2015 5A east champs have been dethroned.

The_Pioneer

Quote from: Pokey03 on September 04, 2016, 12:25:22 pm
Who could have been 2015 5A east champs have been dethroned.

Is this post in English? 

bigchief72455

Quote from: Chief-Chickasaw on September 03, 2016, 06:39:23 am
He did run all over them and Blytheville handled them pretty easy in a benefit game that doesn't matter. Year in and year out Pokey is a good program. They could complete for the 3 or 4 most years. Everyone remember Blytheville is a 4A school playing in the 5A just waiting on the count to drop.
PA is a 4A school playing in the 5A that has a 3A enrollment.

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