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« on: November 28, 2017, 02:01:38 pm »
Who is the next HC?? 

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2017, 02:07:46 pm »
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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2017, 10:59:41 pm »
Out of stater

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2017, 11:08:08 pm »
Every coach I've asked say the same name, and he's not an out-of-stater.

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2017, 12:28:29 am »
Every coach I've asked say the same name, and he's not an out-of-stater.

That's an odd name.

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2017, 03:04:52 pm »
No one should want to take this job imo....

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2017, 09:26:30 pm »
Every coach I've asked say the same name, and he's not an out-of-stater.

Btw, I believe its the current Elkins coach who has SS ties.... He is wise to leave Elkins while the "gettin is good" cause Elkins will be a 3 or 4 seed at best in good years in 4A. Most of the time Elkins is finishing 5th or 6th in 4A.

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2017, 11:08:23 pm »
I heard a coach from Kansas is interested. The name escapes me though

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2017, 07:22:08 pm »
SS could be a great turnaround story or a great disappointment to a guy trying to build a resume.  05 - 08 was a pretty good stretch for them, Ashcraft?  So what is the key to getting it turned?

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2017, 09:33:56 am »
Dawson had a good year there and then was followed by a few good years after he left I believe.  Something is missing.

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2017, 05:08:52 pm »
Hear a coach from Louisiana has applied. Head Coach from 5A school that was playoff team. Has Arkansas ties.  Interest is low in this job

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2017, 05:42:08 pm »
Going to continue to be a tough place to win.  Schedule is pretty tough and the travel is a definite negative.  They have some nice new facilities.  Never hear anyone say much about whats up with that program.

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2017, 10:57:28 am »
Hear a coach from Louisiana has applied. Head Coach from 5A school that was playoff team. Has Arkansas ties.  Interest is low in this job

Anybody know how many applicants?

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2017, 12:16:16 am »
Lots of interest in this job.  Over 40 apps.

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2017, 12:57:47 pm »
Any names?

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2017, 04:18:23 pm »
Thats a tough conference and going to take some time and lots of work to get SS turned around and winning.  Whoever they hire better have a tough skin.

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2018, 12:04:54 pm »
I hear there may have been a hire.

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2018, 10:06:29 am »
Who did they hire?

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2018, 11:11:44 am »
Any more news on this job?  I heard they weren't doing interviews until the end of January. 

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2018, 09:10:55 am »
Wonder why they are waiting so long?

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2018, 09:12:12 am »
Wonder why they are waiting so long?

Been relatively slow for turnover.  Might want to see some chips start falling to see if they get some more qualified applicants.  Just a guess

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2018, 11:00:55 am »
I don't think it is that unusual to take this long amount of time, this is the way most schools seem to do it.  I don't think most schools see an urgent need, I disagree but I aint running the schools athletic departments.  Some schools don't want to hire any sooner than necessary because it means hiring, $$$ and more payroll expense as the ex coach is generally still on staff.  Besides spring ball is months away. 
Other than that I think they are in a tight for a really great hire and they want to get it right.  So many good points in that district yet so many obsticles for winning in football.

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2018, 10:25:16 am »
SS could be a great turnaround story or a great disappointment to a guy trying to build a resume.  05 - 08 was a pretty good stretch for them, Ashcraft?  So what is the key to getting it turned?

A good coach who can get the maximum effort out of the kids and the staff.  A system that will be good for the type kids they have and one that doesn't rely on one star to make it go. A few years of combined hard work and patience.  You cannot accept poor effort or performance and at the same time you have to realize its going to be step by step, some small some big. 

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2018, 01:23:22 pm »
Any new insights to what is going on with the search, list of names, a philosophy they are looking for?

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2018, 04:32:25 pm »
They should hire Brandon Craig from Oologah, Ok.  But will probably hire whoever plays nice.
They should have allowed a coach to bring an assistant but they wont do that.
This  administration will not give a new coach the ammo to build and win.
Compare how many assistant coaches we have to all the other 6A schools, we are stuck in the 1980's.

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2018, 06:11:34 pm »
They should hire Brandon Craig from Oologah, Ok.  But will probably hire whoever plays nice.
They should have allowed a coach to bring an assistant but they wont do that.
This  administration will not give a new coach the ammo to build and win.
Compare how many assistant coaches we have to all the other 6A schools, we are stuck in the 1980's.

Interesting statement.   Can you add the data to go with it, how many coaches does SS have, are you sure they will not allow the new coach to bring some staff?

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2018, 08:45:30 am »
Turning this program around is going to require breaking the mold for what many think needs to be done.  I like the phrase, "back to the future". 

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2018, 05:55:58 pm »
Out of stater 👀

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2018, 10:59:56 am »
Have they hired anyone yet?

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2018, 03:29:06 pm »
Coach cannot bring an assistant unless one quits.

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« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2018, 03:36:02 pm »
Coach cannot bring an assistant unless one quits.

If true that doesn't seem like they are really trying to get it right. 

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2018, 03:43:41 pm »
Unless they have changed it, if a assistant quits that also
Taught history . You were limited to hiring a coach that can
Teach that class.

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2018, 03:46:24 pm »
I wonder if anyone plans to go?  You often see some departures with a new HC since they often shake up responsibilities among the old staff. 

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2018, 10:09:27 pm »
We have some great coaches on staff just wish we could add 1 or 2 so they are not spread then.

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« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2018, 05:34:43 pm »
We have some great coaches on staff just wish we could add 1 or 2 so they are not spread then.

OK, this is going to sound bad but I don't really mean it too.  If you have all these great coaches then why do you not win?  Where is the problem?

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #35 on: February 03, 2018, 06:59:55 pm »
Brandon Craig is new head coach

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #36 on: February 03, 2018, 07:48:22 pm »
Brandon Craig is new head coach

Is his name Brandon or Craig? .... What's his last name too?

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2018, 07:41:18 pm »
Anybody know who the last 6 were?  I don't think the applicants were ever revealed.   Good luck to the new guy.

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #38 on: February 05, 2018, 08:25:18 am »
2 Arkansas guys
4 Oklahoma guys were the finalist

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« Reply #39 on: February 05, 2018, 08:29:16 am »
Can't get attachment to pull up, it was on twitter

Davis-Marion
Mahan-F'ville
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Hix- Mid west city
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Craig-oolagah

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2018, 09:12:03 am »
sounds like they got a good Coach hired

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2018, 11:37:14 am »
What's an Oolagah?

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2018, 12:10:49 pm »
Pretty good resume.  I hope he does well, he sure has his work cut out for him.  Hopefully he will be able to hire some staff and be able to get the current guys quickly on board with any new changes.

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« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2018, 11:08:13 pm »
There were over 60 applicants for the job.  The OC from Fayetteville was one of them.  An assistant from Jenk, OK also applied. 

In my opinion bringing someone fresh in from Oklahoma was the best route to go. 

The talent is there for this team to be semi successful in their conference.  I don't think going .500 in conference is an unrealistic expectation. 

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2018, 11:11:03 pm »
What's an Oolagah?

A town in Oklahoma. No different than any of the other towns in Oklahoma that use Cherokee names. There are hundreds of small towns in the state that have names honoring the Native American heritage of the state.  I could go on forever listing them. 

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« Reply #45 on: February 16, 2018, 12:13:02 pm »
There were over 60 applicants for the job.  The OC from Fayetteville was one of them.  An assistant from Jenk, OK also applied. 

In my opinion bringing someone fresh in from Oklahoma was the best route to go. 

The talent is there for this team to be semi successful in their conference.  I don't think going .500 in conference is an unrealistic expectation.

Uphill climb for sure.  When does the new guy arrive on campus? Wonder if any big changes will occur in what they do?

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #46 on: February 17, 2018, 04:26:19 pm »
Uphill climb for sure.  When does the new guy arrive on campus? Wonder if any big changes will occur in what they do?

He was on campus last week and had a meeting with the players.  Not sure if heís there full time now or if he just made a visit for the day.  I havenít followed up on it very much. 

Looking forward to hearing feedback from players.

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #47 on: February 17, 2018, 10:40:52 pm »
There were over 60 applicants for the job.  The OC from Fayetteville was one of them.  An assistant from Jenk, OK also applied. 

In my opinion bringing someone fresh in from Oklahoma was the best route to go. 

The talent is there for this team to be semi successful in their conference.  I don't think going .500 in conference is an unrealistic expectation. 
Not sure why bringing in someone from Oklahoma is the best route other than being able to get them for less and for them to not really understand what they are getting themselves into.  To be fair, I have heard the coach they have hired is pretty impressive.  If he was #1 out of 60 applicants, that is probably true.  I do think the other finalists that were listed were very capable as well.  Siloam had to be pleased with the pool they had to choose from.

Now I do think it would be tough for them to go 4-3 in conference this year.  They should beat Hall and likely Sheridan, but then they need to figure out how to sneak away with a win from two of these five: Greenwood, Russellville, Benton, Lake Hamilton, and El Dorado.  Maybe not unrealistic, but not expected by any means.  Hopefully, they scheduled well for non-conference, but I'm assuming Harrison is still on there, and they won't be much easier than what they will see in conference.

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Re: Siloam Springs
« Reply #48 on: February 19, 2018, 01:54:28 pm »
Well, probably figured that 3 runner-ups in a row, 14,15,16, with small staff and limited resources, that he would be able to do the same at Siloam .

Now Oolagah is a school with money, just not invested in a big staff.  And to be fair he has coached a few D1 kids the last couple years and numerous d2, so it not like he hasn't coached talent. But he's been around and knowshis stuff.
Header Oolagah
And Campus high in Haysville outside of Wichita.
Oc at Del city.
And I think he was either oc or oline at John Marshall.


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« Reply #49 on: February 20, 2018, 12:07:01 am »
I heard he had a couple of real studs the last few years.  Was able to line up and overwhelm a lot of the competition is what I heard. I don't know that he can out talent most of that conference he is coming into. 

 

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