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Title: 4A-1
Post by: Baller91 on October 12, 2018, 08:57:39 am
We're about a month out from the start of the season. What's the scoop on how the conference shakes out?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: wait4it on October 12, 2018, 09:48:32 am
Harrison and Farmington will probably battle for 1st.  Pea Ridge will be in the mix...
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on October 13, 2018, 02:36:48 pm
Conference is Farmington, Harrison, Prairie Grove, Pea Ridge, Shiloh Christian, Gravette, Berryville, and Huntsville?? Do I have that correct? Is Gentry in there or are they 3A in basketball now? That's a pretty solid league from top to bottom.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Baller91 on October 13, 2018, 04:50:23 pm
Quote from: beach bum on October 13, 2018, 02:36:48 pm
Conference is Farmington, Harrison, Prairie Grove, Pea Ridge, Shiloh Christian, Gravette, Berryville, and Huntsville?? Do I have that correct? Is Gentry in there or are they 3A in basketball now? That's a pretty solid league from top to bottom.

Gentry is also in the conference.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Baller91 on October 13, 2018, 04:55:29 pm
Quote from: wait4it on October 12, 2018, 09:48:32 am
Harrison and Farmington will probably battle for 1st.  Pea Ridge will be in the mix...

I figured Harrison and Farmington, as they are making the move down a classification this year. I'm sure PR will be decent, as they always are, but I wasn't too impressed with the group they had playing summer ball together this year. Of course that doesn't mean anything come time for the actual season. Should be an interesting season.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on October 13, 2018, 05:43:59 pm
does anyone else think its weird that football and basketball don't play the same conference?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on October 13, 2018, 06:18:47 pm
Quote from: RZback on October 13, 2018, 05:43:59 pm
does anyone else think its weird that football and basketball don't play the same conference?


It definitely is a little weird now.... I think these "other sports' conferences seem to make a little bit better competitive balance though. I think now you have depth all the way down to your 6 or 7 seed here. It makes you wonder if this is an experiment that they may tinker with football too soon.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on October 13, 2018, 06:22:30 pm
Quote from: Baller91 on October 13, 2018, 04:55:29 pm
I figured Harrison and Farmington, as they are making the move down a classification this year. I'm sure PR will be decent, as they always are, but I wasn't too impressed with the group they had playing summer ball together this year. Of course that doesn't mean anything come time for the actual season. Should be an interesting season.


I like the 9 team leagues in basketball.... I am not a fan of the 10 team league in high school like the last blended league, and I hated some of those 1A-3A leagues that had 6 or 7 teams only. I think 8 or 9 teams makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on October 14, 2018, 05:46:51 pm
I just don't understand the reasoning behind it I guess.  Either you're a 3A, 4A team or a 5A team or you are not.  Why would it be different from sport to sport.  Can anyone explain this?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Cajun Hog on October 15, 2018, 04:00:42 pm
Quote from: wait4it on October 12, 2018, 09:48:32 am
Harrison and Farmington will probably battle for 1st.  Pea Ridge will be in the mix...

Harrison is LOADED this year, they will win hands down.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Cardfan1 on October 15, 2018, 07:01:55 pm
Let's get the preseason rankings 1-9 going....boys and girls. Looking forward to the info.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on October 15, 2018, 07:57:51 pm
Quote from: RZback on October 14, 2018, 05:46:51 pm
I just don't understand the reasoning behind it I guess.  Either you're a 3A, 4A team or a 5A team or you are not.  Why would it be different from sport to sport.  Can anyone explain this?

I honestly think they shrunk one classification because in basketball enrollment is not as big of an issue with a sport that only requires 5 on the court compared to 11 on the football field. So I think that taking away one classification was the right thing to do. Now, does Bentonville need to be in the same conference as Pea Ridge just as an example? Absolutely not, but Harrison and Farmington in with the bigger 1-4A schools makes sense..... But I wish they went back to 64 or 72 teams in the 3 smallest basketball classifications. I was the last group to play in the old 5 classification system and I remember winning games at state meant something when you are one of the last 8 or so teams left when it started with 65-70 teams in the regular season..... 6 classes is better than 7 so I'll take it.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BVCAT on October 15, 2018, 09:05:28 pm
1. Harrison - not even close
2. Farmington - addition of Pridmore helps but can't touch Harrison
3. Pea Ridge - nice core returning, could flip with Farmington
4. Berryville - returns arguably best player in league last year but lost several seniors....should be competitive
5. Huntsville - new coach, new system, we'll see
6. Shiloh - lost a lot, not sure
7. Gravette - lost more than a lot
8. Prairie Grove -  ???
9. Gentry - ???
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Baller91 on October 15, 2018, 09:50:45 pm
Quote from: BVCAT on October 15, 2018, 09:05:28 pm
1. Harrison - not even close
2. Farmington - addition of Pridmore helps but can't touch Harrison
3. Pea Ridge - nice core returning, could flip with Farmington
4. Berryville - returns arguably best player in league last year but lost several seniors....should be competitive
5. Huntsville - new coach, new system, we'll see
6. Shiloh - lost a lot, not sure
7. Gravette - lost more than a lot
8. Prairie Grove -  ???
9. Gentry - ???
I agree with 1 & 2, but not too sure about the rest.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: init2winit2 on October 17, 2018, 06:37:17 pm
who is the best player in the conference off of berryville's team? is the ray kid coming back?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BVCAT on October 17, 2018, 07:15:41 pm
Quote from: init2winit2 on October 17, 2018, 06:37:17 pm
who is the best player in the conference off of berryville's team? is the ray kid coming back?
Must have offended family as you joined today to ask that question....no offense intended as Ray was a nice addition to the Berryville team last year but I think you know he graduated. Others can chime in on this one.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: init2winit2 on October 17, 2018, 08:20:32 pm
 ;D Jumping to conclusions I only saw berryville play once or twice last year and the ray kid was lighting it up shooting like the carr kid use to they had another guard on the team that was shorter he had a good shot but I thought the ray kid was their best player last year who is the player you are talking about?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: MoTownDog on October 26, 2018, 12:31:45 pm
Quote from: Cajun Hog on October 15, 2018, 04:00:42 pm
Harrison is LOADED this year, they will win hands down.

Unless they have new players I don't know about, Farmington beats them by 20.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Cajun Hog on October 26, 2018, 01:17:06 pm
Quote from: MoTownDog on October 26, 2018, 12:31:45 pm
Unless they have new players I don't know about, Farmington beats them by 20.

Farmington is a year away from be loaded.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: basketballseason on October 26, 2018, 02:53:49 pm
Quote from: Cajun Hog on October 26, 2018, 01:17:06 pm
Farmington is a year away from be loaded.
Is their JH good?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Cardfan1 on October 26, 2018, 11:17:44 pm
Quote from: Cajun Hog on October 26, 2018, 01:17:06 pm
Farmington is a year away from be loaded.

I think Farmington Boys are poised to have a good year. I do agree that there is talent in the younger ranks that makes the future look bright.
Harrison is really good, physically talented and should be a major player at the State level.  Pea Ridge will be solid again and beyond that I'm not sure. If tradition holds true, the 4A-1 will be entertaining as always.

Cajun, how do you see the girls side shaking out?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Cajun Hog on October 27, 2018, 05:58:13 pm
Quote from: basketballseason on October 26, 2018, 02:53:49 pm
Is their JH good?

Very deep and talented. Not being a JH conference and playing mostly 6A & 7A teams the last 4 years and really helped the program.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BigGuy22 on November 14, 2018, 01:41:25 pm
We can drop Pea Ridge a seed or two. Their starting post from last season had to quit basketball for some personal reasons. I don't think he got in trouble but he had some stuff going on. He was a beast last season for Pea Ridge. All-Conference and I believe he was 6th on the list to be All-State, and they only take 4. He was a very good all-around player. Their backup center got straight up bullied last year in the elimination game, hopefully he can step up and fill the role but I don't have high hopes for Pea Ridge this season!
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on November 16, 2018, 06:01:44 pm
PR at worst finishes 3rd.  Nick Coble is a stud.  Wesley Wells 6'5 junior will replace the big man Mahoney he's a good player.  Returning 3 starters from last year.  Noah Pederson junior can shoot the lights out. 
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on November 17, 2018, 09:16:21 am
Quote from: Hawk4L on November 16, 2018, 06:01:44 pm
PR at worst finishes 3rd.  Nick Coble is a stud.  Wesley Wells 6'5 junior will replace the big man Mahoney he's a good player.  Returning 3 starters from last year.  Noah Pederson junior can shoot the lights out.

Didn't Pea Ridge lose to Eureka the other night? ..... Not a good sign for when they go up against Harrison and Farmington 4 times combined.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Baller91 on November 17, 2018, 04:47:46 pm
Quote from: Hawk4L on November 16, 2018, 06:01:44 pm
PR at worst finishes 3rd.  Nick Coble is a stud.  Wesley Wells 6'5 junior will replace the big man Mahoney he's a good player.  Returning 3 starters from last year.  Noah Pederson junior can shoot the lights out.

I admire your optimism. The backup Post for PR gets thrown around like a rag doll. Unless he has put on a ton of muscle since I saw him play this summer, you all will be hurting inside. He's a decent player, but not strong enough. Especially compared to what you had in Mahoney.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on November 17, 2018, 08:14:22 pm
Yeah we lost to eureka  :-\ worst game we've played in very long time. Just one of those game where no shots could fall.  I agree losing Mahoney hurts a lot. I just think we finish 3rd. Our conf is pretty weak so finishing 3rd isn't hard to do. I could be wrong.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on November 17, 2018, 08:32:06 pm
Quote from: Hawk4L on November 17, 2018, 08:14:22 pm
Yeah we lost to eureka  :-\ worst game we've played in very long time. Just one of those game where no shots could fall.  I agree losing Mahoney hurts a lot. I just think we finish 3rd. Our conf is pretty weak so finishing 3rd isn't hard to do. I could be wrong.


I tend to agree.... outside of Farmington and Harrison anyone can grab that 3 seed. Probably a lot of teams bunched between 7-9 and 9-7 record in the conference this year between the 3 through 6/7 seed area.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Baller91 on November 17, 2018, 10:22:51 pm
Quote from: Hawk4L on November 17, 2018, 08:14:22 pm
Yeah we lost to eureka  :-\ worst game we've played in very long time. Just one of those game where no shots could fall.  I agree losing Mahoney hurts a lot. I just think we finish 3rd. Our conf is pretty weak so finishing 3rd isn't hard to do. I could be wrong.
I think you guys will probably finish in the top 5 - possibly 3rd. I haven't seen Berryville, Huntsville or Shiloh play yet. I figure the battle for 3 and 4 will be between the 4 of you.
Sadly, Gentry and Gravette will probably be battling for last. Gentry has one exceptional player and several mediocre ones, and Gravette lost a ton of talent from last year, so I'm afraid they will struggle as well.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on November 20, 2018, 05:56:12 pm
PR had 20pt win over Mena tonight. Good bounce back game after that terrible loss to Eureka
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Charlie1001 on November 20, 2018, 11:56:25 pm
Quote from: BigGuy22 on November 14, 2018, 01:41:25 pm
We can drop Pea Ridge a seed or two. Their starting post from last season had to quit basketball for some personal reasons. I don't think he got in trouble but he had some stuff going on. He was a beast last season for Pea Ridge. All-Conference and I believe he was 6th on the list to be All-State, and they only take 4. He was a very good all-around player. Their backup center got straight up bullied last year in the elimination game, hopefully he can step up and fill the role but I don't have high hopes for Pea Ridge this season!
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They aren't missing him.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Woopig6 on November 27, 2018, 11:43:57 am
Shiloh looks to have a lot of threats on the court. Namely: Sean Cranna. Kid is a beast
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on November 27, 2018, 06:02:54 pm
Quote from: Woopig6 on November 27, 2018, 11:43:57 am
Shiloh looks to have a lot of threats on the court. Namely: Sean Cranna. Kid is a beast


Do they have any contributors coming over from football? Guys that might be in let's say the 8 man rotation?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Woopig6 on November 27, 2018, 06:17:43 pm
I expect a lot this season from Russ, Thomson, and Henry. This team could be sneaky good
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Charlie1001 on November 27, 2018, 09:12:42 pm
Quote from: Woopig6 on November 27, 2018, 06:17:43 pm
I expect a lot this season from Russ, Thomson, and Henry. This team could be sneaky good

I'm sure they'll be amazing!!!!  They will run right through Harrison, Farmington and Pea Ridge.  Gravette lost everything so they will probably play them strong too.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Woopig6 on November 28, 2018, 08:06:32 am
Quote from: Charlie1001 on November 27, 2018, 09:12:42 pm
I'm sure they'll be amazing!!!!  They will run right through Harrison, Farmington and Pea Ridge.  Gravette lost everything so they will probably play them strong too.
This guy gets it
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 10:32:51 am
Last night at the Shiloh vs. Elkins game I saw a lot of potential from the Seth Rosenfeld, Harrison Williams and Sean Cranna.  Despite the outcome of the game if the power three can combine with the incoming stars from football like Thomson, Henry, and Russ we can expect big things from this team in the upcoming season.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BudWaltonArena on November 28, 2018, 10:38:33 am
I, an elkins dad, was at the game last night. although it was a victory for my elks, i saw a lot of talent out of shilohs shaun crana. number 12 as i recall. their point guard also moves well number 30
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 12:20:48 pm
Quote from: _Maximum_velocity_ on November 28, 2018, 10:38:33 am
I, an elkins dad, was at the game last night. although it was a victory for my elks, i saw a lot of talent out of shilohs shaun crana. number 12 as i recall. their point guard also moves well number 30
While agree with your assessment of Sean* and Harrison (Number 30) you forgot to acknowledge the skills that the 2 guard, Seth Rosenfeld posses.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Woopig6 on November 28, 2018, 12:38:35 pm
Quote from: _Maximum_velocity_ on November 28, 2018, 10:38:33 am
I, an elkins dad, was at the game last night. although it was a victory for my elks, i saw a lot of talent out of shilohs shaun crana. number 12 as i recall. their point guard also moves well number 30
Strong assessment. Would say that this is a small set back for a major comeback
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on November 28, 2018, 12:53:07 pm
So are y'all saying Shiloh will be the best in the conf ?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Woopig6 on November 28, 2018, 01:11:12 pm
Quote from: Hawk4L on November 28, 2018, 12:53:07 pm
So are y'all saying Shiloh will be the best in the conf ?
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I'm not saying yes but I'm also not saying no
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 01:20:46 pm
Quote from: Hawk4L on November 28, 2018, 12:53:07 pm
So are y'all saying Shiloh will be the best in the conf ?
I think I can say it best by stating the roof for the Saints is very high.  If they play the game they know and execute their gameplans well they will be a tough competitor for teams that think they have an easy path to the state tournament.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Gray lizard on November 28, 2018, 01:24:28 pm
Did anyone catch the Pottsville/ Praire Grove game score last night. I heard Pottsville boys won by 15. Not sure about the source.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Klaw30 on November 28, 2018, 01:47:05 pm
Quote from: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 01:20:46 pm
I think I can say it best by stating the roof for the Saints is very high.  If they play the game they know and execute their gameplans well they will be a tough competitor for teams that think they have an easy path to the state tournament.
I agree, BRJ!!!  The Saints have a high potential if they play together. They will be a force if they are clicking on all cylinders!!
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 01:50:54 pm
Quote from: Gray lizard on November 28, 2018, 01:24:28 pm
Did anyone catch the Pottsville/ Praire Grove game score last night. I heard Pottsville boys won by 15. Not sure about the source.
Pottsville won by a score of 51-35.  Has pottsville lost players this year? They were a team to be afraid of last year. Only beating a weak Prarie Grove team by 15 is a bit surprising in my opinion.  From what I saw over summer league, Prarie Grove seemed to have lost several players and is no where near as good as their team from last year.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Klaw30 on November 28, 2018, 02:11:10 pm
Quote from: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 01:50:54 pm
Pottsville won by a score of 51-35.  Has pottsville lost players this year? They were a team to be afraid of last year. Only beating a weak Prarie Grove team by 15 is a bit surprising in my opinion.  From what I saw over summer league, Prarie Grove seemed to have lost several players and is no where near as good as their team from last year.
PG is definitely down from last year with the loss of several key players. We will see how they do against Elkins. They lost to Huntsville to start the year but beat Greenland by a few points.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 02:27:31 pm
Enough with the talk about Pottsville and Prarie Grove.  How does everyone feel about Shiloh once they get the key players such as Thomson, Russ, and Henry?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Cajun Hog on November 28, 2018, 03:33:43 pm
Quote from: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 01:20:46 pm
I think I can say it best by stating the roof for the Saints is very high.  If they play the game they know and execute their gameplans well they will be a tough competitor for teams that think they have an easy path to the state tournament.

Please let us know the game with Harrison goes? Then you will know how you measure up to the 5A teams that came down in the region.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on November 28, 2018, 03:51:32 pm
Quote from: Cajun Hog on November 28, 2018, 03:33:43 pm
Please let us know the game with Harrison goes? Then you will know how you measure up to the 5A teams that came down in the region.

I think these NWA 4A schools are in for a harsh awakening at what Harrison will bring. The physicality and defense played in the old 5A West is light years beyond most all of 4A
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 28, 2018, 04:44:50 pm
ive watched shawn cranna since he was playing at fulbright. Maybe one of the best players i have ever watched. A ton of potential
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 28, 2018, 04:46:27 pm
Gentry is a dark horse. I wouldnt be surprised if they take over harrison for top spot in the 4a-1
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 04:47:15 pm
Quote from: Cajun Hog on November 28, 2018, 03:33:43 pm
Please let us know the game with Harrison goes? Then you will know how you measure up to the 5A teams that came down in the region.
I'll give it to Harrison, they're a force to be reckoned with. However, isn't it kind of embarrassing for you to have to come down to 4A to win a conference tournament.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Cajun Hog on November 28, 2018, 05:13:48 pm
Quote from: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 04:47:15 pm
I'll give it to Harrison, they're a force to be reckoned with. However, isn't it kind of embarrassing for you to have to come down to 4A to win a conference tournament.

A) They didn't have choice the AAA decided it.

B) Harrison been in 5A semi-finals the last 2 years.

C) If your that good you should enjoy playing the big boys.  :)



Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 05:27:49 pm
Quote from: Cajun Hog on November 28, 2018, 05:13:48 pm
A) They didn't have choice the AAA decided it.

B) Harrison been in 5A semi-finals the last 2 years.

C) If your that good you should enjoy playing the big boys.  :)
It will be a test to see how both teams' seasons play out.  I'm sure Harrison has the ability to come out and pull a lead on the Saints, but will the depth of their bench help the boys odds at pulling this upset?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Woopig6 on November 28, 2018, 05:58:14 pm
Quote from: Cajun Hog on November 28, 2018, 05:13:48 pm
A) They didn't have choice the AAA decided it.

B) Harrison been in 5A semi-finals the last 2 years.

C) If your that good you should enjoy playing the big boys.  :)
I'm not worried about playing the big boys yet, considering we're still playing football
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on November 28, 2018, 06:10:00 pm
Quote from: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 04:47:15 pm
I'll give it to Harrison, they're a force to be reckoned with. However, isn't it kind of embarrassing for you to have to come down to 4A to win a conference tournament.


I thought Harrison won its 5A/6A combined league last year though?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on November 28, 2018, 06:21:54 pm
Quote from: bigboygottaeat on November 28, 2018, 04:46:27 pm
Gentry is a dark horse. I wouldnt be surprised if they take over harrison for top spot in the 4a-1
Gentry sucks at everything and probably will from now on unless they drop back to 3A
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 06:30:16 pm
Quote from: Hawk4L on November 28, 2018, 06:21:54 pm
Gentry sucks at everything and probably will from now on unless they drop back to 3A
What happened to your post that was a beast down low for every team that crossed your path? Is he not playing basketball anymore?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on November 28, 2018, 06:33:45 pm
Yep he decided not to play.  We have a good junior 6'5 Wesley Wells taking his spot
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 28, 2018, 06:48:57 pm
Quote from: Hawk4L on November 28, 2018, 06:21:54 pm
Gentry sucks at everything and probably will from now on unless they drop back to 3A

just watch this year gentry will be good they can surprise people
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 07:01:22 pm
Quote from: Hawk4L on November 28, 2018, 06:33:45 pm
Yep he decided not to play.  We have a good junior 6'5 Wesley Wells taking his spot
Sean Cranna has had a productive offseason from what I've seen.  He is only 6'2 but has a standing vertical of 36".  Should be a good rivalry game between us this year. Players like Seth Rosenthal and Harrison Williams have prepared for a while for this game and look for them to show out for this game. 
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 28, 2018, 07:04:50 pm
Quote from: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 07:01:22 pm
Sean Cranna has had a productive offseason from what I've seen.  He is only 6'2 but has a standing vertical of 36".  Should be a good rivalry game between us this year. Players like Seth Rosenthal and Harrison Williams have prepared for a while for this game and look for them to show out for this game.

Couldn't of said it better. Watch out for those three players. harrison williams is one of the most fun players to watch. he excerts his dominance over his opponents. Once of the most feared players in the aau circuit this year. I could see sean cran being one of the better shot-blockers in the 4a
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Woopig6 on November 28, 2018, 07:27:44 pm
Quote from: bigboygottaeat on November 28, 2018, 07:04:50 pm
Couldn't of said it better. Watch out for those three players. harrison williams is one of the most fun players to watch. he excerts his dominance over his opponents. Once of the most feared players in the aau circuit this year. I could see sean cran being one of the better shot-blockers in the 4a
Sean Cranna's ceiling is close to Zion Williamson. The floor is JV bench player
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 07:28:30 pm
Quote from: bigboygottaeat on November 28, 2018, 07:04:50 pm
Couldn't of said it better. Watch out for those three players. harrison williams is one of the most fun players to watch. he excerts his dominance over his opponents. Once of the most feared players in the aau circuit this year. I could see sean cran being one of the better shot-blockers in the 4a
Shot blocks are rare to see in this 4A-1 conference any one else stand out to you to be a shot blocker or is it just Sean Crayon?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 07:32:03 pm
Quote from: BVCAT on October 15, 2018, 09:05:28 pm
1. Harrison - not even close
2. Farmington - addition of Pridmore helps but can't touch Harrison
3. Pea Ridge - nice core returning, could flip with Farmington
4. Berryville - returns arguably best player in league last year but lost several seniors....should be competitive
5. Huntsville - new coach, new system, we'll see
6. Shiloh - lost a lot, not sure
7. Gravette - lost more than a lot
8. Prairie Grove -  ???
9. Gentry - ???
Definitely need to move up Shiloh to at least 3.  Not sure about where Gentry lies. They could be a sleeper this year. 
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 28, 2018, 07:37:34 pm
Quote from: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 07:28:30 pm
Shot blocks are rare to see in this 4A-1 conference any one else stand out to you to be a shot blocker or is it just Sean Crayon?

Seth rosenburg could block a few he's 6'3
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 28, 2018, 07:38:32 pm
Quote from: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 07:32:03 pm
Definitely need to move up Shiloh to at least 3.  Not sure about where Gentry lies. They could be a sleeper this year.

YES. gentry has a solid core 5. i could see them surprising multiple teams
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 07:39:42 pm
Quote from: bigboygottaeat on November 28, 2018, 07:37:34 pm
Seth rosenburg could block a few he's 6'3
Do you think that Wesley Bells could run with Shiloh's guys or is he not on the same level as the post they lost? Who does Shiloh have this year that could d-up a 6'5 player?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 28, 2018, 07:44:31 pm
Quote from: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 07:39:42 pm
Do you think that Wesley Bells could run with Shiloh's guys or is he not on the same level as the post they lost? Who does Shiloh have this year that could d-up a 6'5 player?

watch out for harrison williams play a little post against pea ridge. dude is really physical
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 28, 2018, 07:48:47 pm
im really excited to see how this conference plays out. a lot of unknown from most teams here.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 07:59:36 pm
Quote from: bigboygottaeat on November 28, 2018, 07:48:47 pm
im really excited to see how this conference plays out. a lot of unknown from most teams here.
Harrison and Farmington will do well. Farmington with the addition of Pridmore will be lethal.  Everyone in conference is really a toss up after the 4 seed.  Pea Ridge and Shiloh will battle for 3rd and 4th.  Wouldn't surprise me if Shiloh came out on top over Pea Ridge.  Should be an exciting season in the 4A-1. 
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on November 28, 2018, 08:07:31 pm
Wesley Wells is just who is replacing Mahoney. Nick Coble is our go to player. I haven't seen anyone better then him in the conference. Excited to see the Shiloh team seem to be much improved from what everyone says.   Haven't seen Harrison play so don't know what to expect from them.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 28, 2018, 08:10:53 pm
Quote from: Hawk4L on November 28, 2018, 08:07:31 pm
Wesley Wells is just who is replacing Mahoney. Nick Coble is our go to player. I haven't seen anyone better then him in the conference. Excited to see the Shiloh team seem to be much improved from what everyone says.   Haven't seen Harrison play so don't know what to expect from them.

that should be a great game. i may have to come down to watch that one
i think the harrison goblins are defintely the top dawg in this conference
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on November 28, 2018, 08:27:51 pm
PR first tough conf matchup is Farmington Dec 18.  That could tell us more about the 2
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 08:37:03 pm
Quote from: Hawk4L on November 28, 2018, 08:27:51 pm
PR first tough conf matchup is Farmington Dec 18.  That could tell us more about the 2
Last time I checked Shiloh had a home game against Harrison on that same day.  Looks to be a big day in 4A-1 with the potential top 4 teams going at it.  Could be statement games for any team that day.  Look to see how Shiloh does when they are faced with the "big boys" of Harrison.  Pridmore on Farmington could be detrimental to PR if y'all can't lock him down.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Woopig6 on November 28, 2018, 08:40:45 pm
Quote from: BRJ_Basketball on November 28, 2018, 08:37:03 pm
Last time I checked Shiloh had a home game against Harrison on that same day.  Looks to be a big day in 4A-1 with the potential top 4 teams going at it.  Could be statement games for any team that day.  Look to see how Shiloh does when they are faced with the "big boys" of Harrison.  Pridmore on Farmington could be detrimental to PR if y'all can't lock him down.
Classic David vs. Goliath tale. Those Shiloh boys will be inspired by that and go play really hard. I think David will come out on top yet again
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Charlie1001 on November 28, 2018, 09:10:39 pm
Quote from: Woopig6 on November 28, 2018, 08:40:45 pm
Classic David vs. Goliath tale. Those Shiloh boys will be inspired by that and go play really hard. I think David will come out on top yet again


Shiloh better figure out how to sneak past Berryville to even get in the top 4.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 28, 2018, 09:20:29 pm
Quote from: Charlie1001 on November 28, 2018, 09:10:39 pm

Shiloh better figure out how to sneak past Berryville to even get in the top 4.

yea berryville is solid
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: South Central on November 28, 2018, 09:32:08 pm
Who does Shiloh play in the Alma classic besides Sheridan? And the prediction for both games.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 28, 2018, 09:38:45 pm
Quote from: South Central on November 28, 2018, 09:32:08 pm
Who does Shiloh play in the Alma classic besides Sheridan? And the prediction for both games.

they also play southside batesville
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: theflash10 on November 28, 2018, 09:57:08 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 28, 2018, 06:10:00 pm

I thought Harrison won its 5A/6A combined league last year though?
They went undefeated in conference play last year. They were a lot more successful than people expected them to be, winningest season under Stahler, fundamental and athletic. They lack size this year compared to their successful teams of the past. Decent guard play and a solid forward. Beat Southside Batesville last night 46-38.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on November 28, 2018, 10:19:37 pm
Quote from: theflash10 on November 28, 2018, 09:57:08 pm
They went undefeated in conference play last year. They were a lot more successful than people expected them to be, winningest season under Stahler, fundamental and athletic. They lack size this year compared to their successful teams of the past. Decent guard play and a solid forward. Beat Southside Batesville last night 46-38.


Thank you for the clarification, and with that score line it leads me to my exact assumption that I thought Harrison would bring a level of defense these 1-4A teams are not accustomed to seeing in conference play. As I said earlier in the thread, the physicality and defense from 4A to 5A in the past is a way different animal. I think defensive play alone will carry Harrison a long way in this new look 1-4A
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on November 28, 2018, 10:22:05 pm
And with the addition of new posters on the thread (which is great to see cause it got dull in the 1-4A threads last year) .... Posters should try our best when conference play starts to post all the scores each week and keep an up to date standings through the whole year.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on November 28, 2018, 10:37:01 pm
PR will be down compared to the last 2 seasons but still have very strong team. Now the conf is much stronger also.  This could be our last year as top 3 for while.  I see ya being around .500 after this season for the next 2-3 years.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 29, 2018, 08:29:56 am
anyone else surprised that huntsville beat farmington??
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: NewGobs on November 29, 2018, 08:34:45 am
My Prediction for this season
1. Harrison- for sure lots of talent easily the best team- dropped from 5a to 4a no team can possibly compete with them
2. Farmington- lots of talent could maybe rival Harrison
3-6 These could go anyway- Pea Ridge, Shiloh, Berryville- all three have major potential but will not rival the Power house that is Harrison.
The rest is not important as they will not make state or really impact the 4a-1 this year
I saw a post about Gentry being a sleeper..... they have nothing they are not that good.
Any changes?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BRJ_Basketball on November 29, 2018, 08:37:14 am
Quote from: NewGobs on November 29, 2018, 08:34:45 am
My Prediction for this season
1. Harrison- for sure lots of talent easily the best team- dropped from 5a to 4a no team can possibly compete with them
2. Farmington- lots of talent could maybe rival Harrison
3-5 These could go anyway- Pea Ridge, Shiloh, Berryville- all three have major potential but will not rival the Power house that is Harrison.
The rest is not important as they will not make state or really impact the 4a-1 this year
I saw a post about Gentry being a sleeper..... they have nothing they are not that good.
Any changes?
Gentry could possibly finish with the number 2 spot.  Their core 5 is too strong for Pridmore and the Cardinals to compete with.  Everyone needs to stop sleeping on these raging pioneers.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 29, 2018, 08:39:06 am
Quote from: NewGobs on November 29, 2018, 08:34:45 am
My Prediction for this season
1. Harrison- for sure lots of talent easily the best team- dropped from 5a to 4a no team can possibly compete with them
2. Farmington- lots of talent could maybe rival Harrison
3-6 These could go anyway- Pea Ridge, Shiloh, Berryville- all three have major potential but will not rival the Power house that is Harrison.
The rest is not important as they will not make state or really impact the 4a-1 this year
I saw a post about Gentry being a sleeper..... they have nothing they are not that good.
Any changes?

Gentry will surprise people they are a solid team. If only they could fix that pink gym ???
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 29, 2018, 08:41:30 am
Quote from: BRJ_Basketball on November 29, 2018, 08:37:14 am
Gentry could possibly finish with the number 2 spot.  Their core 5 is too strong for Pridmore and the Cardinals to compete with.  Everyone needs to stop sleeping on these raging pioneers.

I totally agree BRJ I think the pioneers are the sleeping giant of the 4a
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 29, 2018, 08:46:56 am
Quote from: bigboygottaeat on November 29, 2018, 08:29:56 am
anyone else surprised that huntsville beat farmington??

im really interested in this game. was anyone there to watch it? I would have thought that farmington's firepower on offense would have overpowered huntsville
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Klaw30 on November 29, 2018, 08:47:50 am
Quote from: bigboygottaeat on November 29, 2018, 08:41:30 am
I totally agree BRJ I think the pioneers are the sleeping giant of the 4a
Basically, I don't see Gentry being good but they may surprise some people. I agree with NewGobs Post about the rankings but Pea Ridges returning core could be something that will help them in the long run. Shiloh with these new bodies will have to find it at the right time
Does anyone know what Berryville has?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Klaw30 on November 29, 2018, 08:50:30 am
Quote from: bigboygottaeat on November 29, 2018, 08:46:56 am
im really interested in this game. was anyone there to watch it? I would have thought that farmington's firepower on offense would have overpowered huntsville
I guess Huntsville defense is really good because I would say Farmington is a top 2 team the Final score was 48-33. I thought Farmington would at least put up 50 on Huntsville. I guess Huntsville is a sleeper this year.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 29, 2018, 08:53:18 am
Quote from: Klaw30 on November 29, 2018, 08:47:50 am
Basically, I don't see Gentry being good but they may surprise some people. I agree with NewGobs Post about the rankings but Pea Ridges returning core could be something that will help them in the long run. Shiloh with these new bodies will have to find it at the right time
Does anyone know what Berryville has?

Berryvile has a rlly good point guard prolly top 3 player in 4a-1
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: scrapdig on November 29, 2018, 08:54:38 am
No Huntsville posters on here?  How in the world did they hold Farmington to 33 points?  Anyone have any info?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Woopig6 on November 29, 2018, 09:11:41 am
Heard Shawn Canyon might have to have gallbladder surgery. Best of luck to him! BRJ can you confirm?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 29, 2018, 09:13:36 am
Quote from: Woopig6 on November 29, 2018, 09:11:41 am
Heard Shawn Canyon might have to have gallbladder surgery. Best of luck to him! BRJ can you confirm?

Oh no i was really excited to wacth him play this year. kid has a high motor
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Woopig6 on November 29, 2018, 09:17:03 am
Quote from: NewGobs on November 29, 2018, 08:34:45 am
My Prediction for this season
1. Harrison- for sure lots of talent easily the best team- dropped from 5a to 4a no team can possibly compete with them
2. Farmington- lots of talent could maybe rival Harrison
3-6 These could go anyway- Pea Ridge, Shiloh, Berryville- all three have major potential but will not rival the Power house that is Harrison.
The rest is not important as they will not make state or really impact the 4a-1 this year
I saw a post about Gentry being a sleeper..... they have nothing they are not that good.
Any changes?
I agree with this ranking. Wouldn't be a shocker to see Shiloh slip into that top 3 for the first time in a while. Best of luck to all 4a-1 teams this year
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 29, 2018, 09:18:08 am
Quote from: Woopig6 on November 29, 2018, 09:17:03 am
I agree with this ranking. Wouldn't be a shocker to see Shiloh slip into that top 3 for the first time in a while. Best of luck to all 4a-1 teams this year

Why are you so high on shiloh?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BRJ_Basketball on November 29, 2018, 09:30:08 am
Quote from: Woopig6 on November 29, 2018, 09:11:41 am
Heard Shawn Canyon might have to have gallbladder surgery. Best of luck to him! BRJ can you confirm?
Yea I heard he was out of school for a couple days from surgery then came back the next couple of weeks and was working hard for that top spot. Shaun Cranda is working hard in Physical Therapy and he is better off without that gallbladder because he showed out against Elkins on Tuesday.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: HogCall11 on November 29, 2018, 09:34:34 am
Didn't Huntsville beat Farmington boys Tuesday night or was that an error?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 29, 2018, 09:36:39 am
idk why everyone is high on shiloh they got destroyed by elkins
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 29, 2018, 09:37:01 am
Quote from: HogCall11 on November 29, 2018, 09:34:34 am
Didn't Huntsville beat Farmington boys Tuesday night or was that an error?

huntsville won
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: HogCall11 on November 29, 2018, 09:43:20 am
No way does Farmington need to be ranked a 2 with a loss from possibly the weakest team in the conference. 
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 29, 2018, 09:44:13 am
Quote from: HogCall11 on November 29, 2018, 09:43:20 am
No way does Farmington need to be ranked a 2 with a loss from possibly the weakest team in the conference.

thats a good point. i would like a farmington or huntsville poster to comment so we have a better idea of what happened
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on November 29, 2018, 09:54:10 am
Anyone that says Gentry will be good needs to wake up at best they finish 5th
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Klaw30 on November 29, 2018, 09:59:22 am
Quote from: HogCall11 on November 29, 2018, 09:43:20 am
No way does Farmington need to be ranked a 2 with a loss from possibly the weakest team in the conference.
I would not call them weak they are 4-1 and only lost to a 7a Rogers team they have strong defense that has only allowed 30 points a game if they can keep this going they should be pretty good through out the year but now I guess that Farmington should not be rank 2
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: NewGobs on November 29, 2018, 10:02:31 am
Quote from: Hawk4L on November 29, 2018, 09:54:10 am
Anyone that says Gentry will be good needs to wake up at best they finish 5th

This is very true I just can not see them being good!
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Woopig6 on November 29, 2018, 10:02:57 am
Quote from: bigboygottaeat on November 29, 2018, 09:18:08 am
Why are you so high on shiloh?
The holy spirit has compelled me to believe in Shiloh this year
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: scrapdig on November 29, 2018, 10:04:52 am
Any of Shiloh's football players good basketball players?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Klaw30 on November 29, 2018, 10:05:33 am
Quote from: bigboygottaeat on November 29, 2018, 09:36:39 am
idk why everyone is high on shiloh they got destroyed by elkins
I heard Elkins has a pretty good team this year though.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on November 29, 2018, 10:13:52 am
Maybe Farmington just had a really bad day.  PR lost to Eureka by 1. We couldn't buy a shot. It can happen. We'd beat Eureka 99% of the time. PR had been without starting pg and he's back now.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Woopig6 on November 29, 2018, 10:20:01 am
Quote from: scrapdig on November 29, 2018, 10:04:52 am
Any of Shiloh's football players good basketball players?
Henry, Thomson, and Russ are. I heard rumblings about Lotspeich and Kallesen possibly playing. Would be really interesting to watch how they would fit into this system. They haven't played much in the past few years, besides playing pick up I assume.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Woopig6 on November 29, 2018, 10:29:23 am
Also been hearing that Barrison Billiam, twin brother of the kicker on the football team and PG for the Saints will have a productive season. Heard he has a lethal mid-range and the ability to drive in and kick out. Barrison and Crayon have the ability to lead Shiloh to a long-awaited state championship, pending Crayon does not require Gallbladder surgery.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Klaw30 on November 29, 2018, 11:08:09 am
Quote from: Hawk4L on November 29, 2018, 10:13:52 am
Maybe Farmington just had a really bad day.  PR lost to Eureka by 1. We couldn't buy a shot. It can happen. We'd beat Eureka 99% of the time. PR had been without starting pg and he's back now.
Ureka is not a bad squad but yea Pea Ridge should not of lost that what was the score?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Woopig6 on November 29, 2018, 11:10:45 am
Quote from: Klaw30 on November 29, 2018, 11:08:09 am
Ureka is not a bad squad but yea Pea Ridge should not of lost that what was the score?
Welcome to this forum Klaw30! Please be respectful to everyone!
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on November 29, 2018, 11:16:22 am
Quote from: Klaw30 on November 29, 2018, 11:08:09 am
Ureka is not a bad squad but yea Pea Ridge should not of lost that what was the score?
49-48
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Cajun Hog on November 29, 2018, 03:22:00 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 28, 2018, 06:10:00 pm

I thought Harrison won its 5A/6A combined league last year though?

They did....
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Cajun Hog on November 29, 2018, 03:26:51 pm
Quote from: bigboygottaeat on November 29, 2018, 08:29:56 am
anyone else surprised that huntsville beat farmington??

No not when Cards shot it that poorly.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Baller91 on November 29, 2018, 11:29:19 pm
Quote from: NewGobs on November 29, 2018, 08:34:45 am
My Prediction for this season
1. Harrison- for sure lots of talent easily the best team- dropped from 5a to 4a no team can possibly compete with them
2. Farmington- lots of talent could maybe rival Harrison
3-6 These could go anyway- Pea Ridge, Shiloh, Berryville- all three have major potential but will not rival the Power house that is Harrison.
The rest is not important as they will not make state or really impact the 4a-1 this year
I saw a post about Gentry being a sleeper..... they have nothing they are not that good.
Any changes?
I have no idea if Gentry will surprise people or not, but saying that have nothing is completely incorrect. They have some talent. Can they compete in this conference - we'll have to wait and see, but they have
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Gray lizard on November 30, 2018, 08:00:14 am
Pottsville beat Farmington last night at Pottsville 62-46. 
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Klaw30 on November 30, 2018, 09:32:34 am
Quote from: Gray lizard on November 30, 2018, 08:00:14 am
Pottsville beat Farmington last night at Pottsville 62-46.
Is Farmington just down this year is that Pridmore kid playing still??? like loss to Huntsville loss to Pottsville. I guess they don't need to be that high ranked.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Gray lizard on November 30, 2018, 09:39:23 am
Quote from: Klaw30 on November 30, 2018, 09:32:34 am
Is Farmington just down this year is that Pridmore kid playing still??? like loss to Huntsville loss to Pottsville. I guess they don't need to be that high ranked.
They are a good team don't count them out Pottsville can flat shoot the ball.  Reminds me of the Pea Ridge team from about three years ago.  A bunch of 6'2" to 6'5" boys that can shoot 3's and play inside.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: millergetthecarready on November 30, 2018, 09:49:59 am
Quote from: Klaw30 on November 30, 2018, 09:32:34 am
Is Farmington just down this year is that Pridmore kid playing still??? like loss to Huntsville loss to Pottsville. I guess they don't need to be that high ranked.
i saw that i was wondering if theyre gonne be able to bounce back from those two losses
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 30, 2018, 10:05:05 am
Quote from: millergetthecarready on November 30, 2018, 09:49:59 am
Im thinking Bentonville will be ranked first in the 4A this season, then Harrison Pea Ridge or Shiloh.

i dont think bentonville is in 4a
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: millergetthecarready on November 30, 2018, 10:16:43 am
oh, well theyre still a great quality team
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: millergetthecarready on November 30, 2018, 10:20:55 am
Im really a big fan of Garrison Williams. Ive come to a few practices and been seeing some great potential from him. As well as Sam Rosenfield and Shane Cranna
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: scrapdig on November 30, 2018, 10:24:49 am
Quote from: Woopig6 on November 29, 2018, 11:10:45 am
Welcome to this forum Klaw30! Please be respectful to everyone!
Immediate slap for this comment
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: scrapdig on November 30, 2018, 10:26:03 am
Quote from: millergetthecarready on November 30, 2018, 10:20:55 am
Im really a big fan of Garrison Williams. Ive come to a few practices and been seeing some great potential from him. As well as Sam Rosenfield and Shane Cranna
Never heard of them.  What team?  Dude did you really think Bentonville was 4a?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: millergetthecarready on November 30, 2018, 10:27:25 am
Quote from: scrapdig on November 30, 2018, 10:26:03 am
Never heard of them.  What team?  Dude did you really think Bentonville was 4a?
nah bro im just messing around. great 7a team. theyre a big 3 for shiloh.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Klaw30 on November 30, 2018, 10:37:07 am
Quote from: Gray lizard on November 30, 2018, 09:39:23 am
They are a good team don't count them out Pottsville can flat shoot the ball.  Reminds me of the Pea Ridge team from about three years ago.  A bunch of 6'2" to 6'5" boys that can shoot 3's and play inside.
so this Pottsville team should win their conference....
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 30, 2018, 10:46:02 am
Quote from: millergetthecarready on November 30, 2018, 10:27:25 am
nah bro im just messing around. great 7a team. theyre a big 3 for shiloh.

do you even know what you are talking about??
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Woopig6 on November 30, 2018, 10:57:54 am
Quote from: scrapdig on November 30, 2018, 10:24:49 am
Immediate slap for this comment
BACKHAND
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 30, 2018, 11:00:37 am
i have got word that gentry has big plans for this year. buckle up this team is legit!!!!!
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Klaw30 on November 30, 2018, 11:11:20 am
Quote from: bigboygottaeat on November 30, 2018, 11:00:37 am
i have got word that gentry has big plans for this year. buckle up this team is legit!!!!!
Whos the coach for Gentry again...
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 30, 2018, 11:12:57 am
Quote from: Klaw30 on November 30, 2018, 11:11:20 am
Whos the coach for Gentry again...

hester i think
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Klaw30 on November 30, 2018, 11:16:36 am
Quote from: bigboygottaeat on November 30, 2018, 11:12:57 am
hester i think
Solid coach probaly could lead them to something good
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BRJ_Basketball on November 30, 2018, 11:19:23 am
Quote from: Klaw30 on November 30, 2018, 11:16:36 am
Solid coach probaly could lead them to something good
Arguably one of the better (if not the best) in Arkansas.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Scout_Team on November 30, 2018, 11:22:07 am
Quote from: BRJ_Basketball on November 30, 2018, 11:19:23 am
Arguably one of the better (if not the best) in Arkansas.
I have nothing against the man but I believe that Gentry has no talent on their team so I don't know why your posting about how good Gentry is because they are not going to be good. But hey, I could be wrong.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: TheRealDitch on November 30, 2018, 11:24:04 am
Gotta say, I was skeptical about Gentry's ability this year to be a conference power house, but after I saw this video of one of their bench players, I was fairly impressed with their athletic ability. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjLLsqcjiDU
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 30, 2018, 11:48:19 am
Quote from: TheRealDitch on November 30, 2018, 11:24:04 am
Gotta say, I was skeptical about Gentry's ability this year to be a conference power house, but after I saw this video of one of their bench players, I was fairly impressed with their athletic ability. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjLLsqcjiDU

haha very funny.....some people here take it serious and this forum isn't for jokes. it is for info on teams that you wouldn't normally see. if you are just going to make jokes, please leave. show a little more respect next time
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: millergetthecarready on November 30, 2018, 12:05:51 pm
Quote from: bigboygottaeat on November 30, 2018, 10:46:02 am
do you even know what you are talking about??
yeah dude im just joking. ya know what go get the car ready
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: millergetthecarready on November 30, 2018, 12:07:11 pm
ive seen shiloh has a new stud that just recently transferred in from harber. i believe his name is matthew ditch and i know he has a few D1 offers
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 30, 2018, 12:09:06 pm
Quote from: millergetthecarready on November 30, 2018, 12:07:11 pm
ive seen shiloh has a new stud that just recently transferred in from harber. i forget his name but i know he has a few D1 offers

harrison williams is from harber but i dont think he has any offers
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: millergetthecarready on November 30, 2018, 12:12:39 pm
Quote from: bigboygottaeat on November 30, 2018, 11:48:19 am
haha very funny.....some people here take it serious and this forum isn't for jokes. it is for info on teams that you wouldn't normally see. if you are just going to make jokes, please leave. show a little more respect next time
i gotta agree with big boy here. lets keep the comedic comments to ourselves
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: millergetthecarready on November 30, 2018, 12:14:26 pm
Quote from: bigboygottaeat on November 30, 2018, 12:09:06 pm
harrison williams is from harber but i dont think he has any offers
thats true ive seen hamilton play before and hes a great ball player. but this matthew ditch guy is a force. hes ineligible because he just transferred but will be a great addition to the saints next season.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BRJ_Basketball on November 30, 2018, 12:20:33 pm
Sorry, AT&T wi-fi has been on the fritz lately.  What have I missed? Any expectations on who is playing tonight around the 4A-1 world?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: TheRealDitch on November 30, 2018, 01:31:32 pm
Quote from: millergetthecarready on November 30, 2018, 12:12:39 pm
i gotta agree with big boy here. lets keep the comedic comments to ourselves
I don't see how a true example of amazing talent is such a joke, I think maybe you should keep this forum a little more open-minded. Just saying.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Klaw30 on November 30, 2018, 01:55:40 pm
Quote from: BRJ_Basketball on November 30, 2018, 12:20:33 pm
Sorry, AT&T wi-fi has been on the fritz lately.  What have I missed? Any expectations on who is playing tonight around the 4A-1 world?
I saw that Shiloh and Sheridan for those Shiloh fans -big boy-
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Klaw30 on November 30, 2018, 01:59:58 pm
Also Huntsville and gravette so looks to be an easy win for the eagles
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on November 30, 2018, 02:01:05 pm
Quote from: Klaw30 on November 30, 2018, 01:59:58 pm
Also Huntsville and gravette so looks to be an easy win for the eagles

Not so fast. Gravette has a few players that could potentially give them a game
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Klaw30 on November 30, 2018, 02:06:52 pm
Quote from: bigboygottaeat on November 30, 2018, 02:01:05 pm
Not so fast. Gravette has a few players that could potentially give them a game
No possible way, the eagles are just better beat a supposedly good Farmington team and also gravette is just not good this year- no talent
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Baller91 on November 30, 2018, 03:08:35 pm
Quote from: Scout_Team on November 30, 2018, 11:22:07 am
I have nothing against the man but I believe that Gentry has no talent on their team so I don't know why your posting about how good Gentry is because they are not going to be good. But hey, I could be wrong.
Not sure where you get that they have no talent. The Kilgore kid has been invited to some college prospect camps and played on a solid elite summer team. And he is just one of their players. Wilkinson is pretty good too.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Charlie1001 on November 30, 2018, 06:20:52 pm
If the Shiloh boys would practice as much as they've started self-promoting themselves on here, they might be as good as they're claiming to be.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BRJ_Basketball on November 30, 2018, 07:02:21 pm
Quote from: Charlie1001 on November 30, 2018, 06:20:52 pm
If the Shiloh boys would practice as much as they've started self-promoting themselves on here, they might be as good as they're claiming to be.
Not going to lie, they looked sloppy out there today. What did you see? What do thy need to improve on the most?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Go Postal on November 30, 2018, 07:02:37 pm
Just watched this game and don't know if all the players from football are playing yet..  Didn't see a score thread for the week so I'll put it here.

Tri-state tournament in Willard, MO
Harrison 47
Rogers Heritage 54

Heritage making free throws, Harrison not, was the difference in this game.  Goblins are (3-1).

Earlier in the girl's game

Harrison 55
Bentonville West 38

Lady Goblins are (4-0).
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Woopig6 on November 30, 2018, 07:17:38 pm
Quote from: BRJ_Basketball on November 30, 2018, 07:02:21 pm
Not going to lie, they looked sloppy out there today. What did you see? What do thy need to improve on the most?
I'm gonna shoot you straight BRJ. Everything. Literally everything
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Klaw30 on November 30, 2018, 07:18:57 pm
Quote from: Go Postal on November 30, 2018, 07:02:37 pm
Just watched this game and don't know if all the players from football are playing yet..  Didn't see a score thread for the week so I'll put it here.

Tri-state tournament in Willard, MO
Harrison 47
Rogers Heritage 54

Heritage making free throws, Harrison not, was the difference in this game.  Goblins are (3-1).

Heritage is an Ok 7a team nothing like Springdale or FAYETTEVILLE but again Harrison if they clean up their play with out a doubt could be going far this year I agree 100%
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Klaw30 on November 30, 2018, 07:20:25 pm
Quote from: Woopig6 on November 30, 2018, 07:17:38 pm
I'm gonna shoot you straight BRJ. Everything. Literally everything
Not gonna lie either BRJ the fouls and got them early and a press that did not work
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Klaw30 on November 30, 2018, 07:21:39 pm
Quote from: Go Postal on November 30, 2018, 07:02:37 pm
Just watched this game and don't know if all the players from football are playing yet..  Didn't see a score thread for the week so I'll put it here.

Tri-state tournament in Willard, MO
Harrison 47
Rogers Heritage 54

Heritage making free throws, Harrison not, was the difference in this game.  Goblins are (3-1).
Any other teams playing in this tournament? From 4a?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Go Postal on November 30, 2018, 07:34:00 pm
Quote from: Klaw30 on November 30, 2018, 07:21:39 pm
Any other teams playing in this tournament? From 4a?
Not sure.  I had to look on Maxpreps to see who Harrison played so far.  I just posted the Lady Goblins score from earlier up on my original post.
.
Games can be watched on GobTV.  I believe that Farmington streams games too on Farmcards Live also but I'm not sure
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on December 03, 2018, 08:32:11 am
Quote from: Charlie1001 on November 30, 2018, 06:20:52 pm
If the Shiloh boys would practice as much as they've started self-promoting themselves on here, they might be as good as they're claiming to be.

Amen brother
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Woopig6 on December 03, 2018, 07:42:43 pm
Excited to watch Matty Ice light it up once he gets to basketball from football for Shiloh
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on December 04, 2018, 08:51:44 am
Quote from: Woopig6 on December 03, 2018, 07:42:43 pm
Excited to watch Matty Ice light it up once he gets to basketball from football for Shiloh

Kid is a hooper.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Woopig6 on December 04, 2018, 11:56:04 am
Currently watching film from Shiloh's victory last night. A lot of bright spots!
Rosencrantz and Billiam has great games! One not-so-bright spot was Crayon.
My mans got a mid-range knockdown to close the 3rd, then dipped. Disappointing  ::)
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on December 05, 2018, 08:05:45 pm
The only team I have seen so far is Farmington, and if that is a top 3 team in the conference then its got to be cause the conference is way down. They have a couple guards that can get in the paint with their quickness and finish quite well at the goal. Those two guards like to either get all the way to the basket or pull up mid range off of their drive game. They do not like to shoot three's at all. A good coach will scout that and tell his team to pretty much not even guard the 3 point line cause all they are doing is trying to get in the lane. They don't really have a skilled big man which makes it tough. A good team will slice their defense apart cause they leave a massive open spot at the high post every time in the zone they play. A smart team will slice that apart getting it to the high post. Not saying they'll be awful once conference play starts, just can not see them cracking the top 3.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on December 06, 2018, 09:19:30 am
I think it would be natural to expect the conference to be down in basketball just as it was down in football.  Athletes tend to run in cycles and many are multi-sport.  If the athleticism is missing in one sport it is likely to be down in others. One other thing, I like having Huntsville in the conference but I don't like the 1-4A having the football and other sports being different.  A conference is a conference, just don't understand splitting it for other sports.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on December 06, 2018, 11:47:40 am
Quote from: RZback on December 06, 2018, 09:19:30 am
I think it would be natural to expect the conference to be down in basketball just as it was down in football.  Athletes tend to run in cycles and many are multi-sport.  If the athleticism is missing in one sport it is likely to be down in others. One other thing, I like having Huntsville in the conference but I don't like the 1-4A having the football and other sports being different.  A conference is a conference, just don't understand splitting it for other sports.


Totally agree with you on all that. I like Huntsville in the 1-4A especially in basketball cause they bring a certain style of play and ruggedness that is good for the conference on the hard wood. I also wish football would just jump on board and shrink a class too that way it matches up with what we see here in basketball. With 8 man now and programs dropping I think its time to get rid of six football classifications and go down to five where 6A is the biggest like in the "other sports". And I don't want to sound too critical of Farmington also. Those guards are pretty good at their strengths and pretty crafty getting in the paint. They just will suffer greatly on nights where they will need the outside shooting it seems they lack which will hurt them trying to get in the top 3 of the league.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Gray lizard on December 06, 2018, 02:21:57 pm
Quote from: beach bum on December 06, 2018, 11:47:40 am

Totally agree with you on all that. I like Huntsville in the 1-4A especially in basketball cause they bring a certain style of play and ruggedness that is good for the conference on the hard wood. I also wish football would just jump on board and shrink a class too that way it matches up with what we see here in basketball. With 8 man now and programs dropping I think its time to get rid of six football classifications and go down to five where 6A is the biggest like in the "other sports". And I don't want to sound too critical of Farmington also. Those guards are pretty good at their strengths and pretty crafty getting in the paint. They just will suffer greatly on nights where they will need the outside shooting it seems they lack which will hurt them trying to get in the top 3 of the league.
What you described is exactly what Pottsville did to Farmington in their match up.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: prHOG13 on December 06, 2018, 11:10:41 pm
Pea Ridge beatbox McDonald County 66-53 in their opener of the Battle at the Ridge. Berryville lost to Providence Academy by like 20 in the night cap.

Pea Ridge will take on Joe T Robinson tomorrow. Doesn't sound like the final games will be played on Saturday (potential PR/Robinson vs ESTEM/Providence matchup) due to weather but that may change.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: prHOG13 on December 08, 2018, 06:05:43 pm
Pea Ridge lost by 1 to Robinson last night and really didn't play that well. They bounced back in the 3rd place game to beat Providence Academy

ESTEM came back to beat Robinson in the Championship to take the Battle at the Ridge tourney.

Berryville lost both of their games. They really lack size but have some tough little guards.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: bigboygottaeat on December 17, 2018, 09:04:04 am
whats new in the 4a-1?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on December 17, 2018, 09:10:15 am
Quote from: bigboygottaeat on December 17, 2018, 09:04:04 am
whats new in the 4a-1?


These 9 teams.... Harrison, Farmington, Pea Ridge, Huntsville, Shiloh Christian, Gravette, Berryville, Gentry, and Prairie Grove



Lincoln and Green Forest who are in the football conference are 3A in basketball
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: prHOG13 on December 17, 2018, 10:18:27 am
It's a shame Lincoln dropped to 3A. Their Jr High program has been really good the last couple years and I think they could compete pretty well in this conference the next few years.

Big game tomorrow for Pea Ridge at Farmington.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on December 17, 2018, 10:22:52 am
Quote from: prHOG13 on December 17, 2018, 10:18:27 am
It's a shame Lincoln dropped to 3A. Their Jr High program has been really good the last couple years and I think they could compete pretty well in this conference the next few years.

Big game tomorrow for Pea Ridge at Farmington.


Although Lincoln had a good football team this year..... It actually makes more sense that Lincoln and Green Forest from a competitive stand point played in 3A in football and less so in basketball even.


Also, if Pea Ridge cuts off the driving lanes for those two quick guards that Farmington has then Pea Ridge can win that game even on the road. They are solid at that and can draw fouls with their drive game. If they do that then Farmington may control the game. That should be a good one for sure.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on December 22, 2018, 11:09:04 am
The 1-4A boys seems to be turning out at least close to what we expected

The girls conference is deep..... 4 really, really good teams and a 5th that looks solid.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Livewire on December 22, 2018, 08:04:50 pm
Max Preps shows Shiloh to have 3 8th graders on their roster. Is that correct?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on December 23, 2018, 12:05:06 am
Quote from: Livewire on December 22, 2018, 08:04:50 pm
Max Preps shows Shiloh to have 3 8th graders on their roster. Is that correct?
Hope so with that awful record they have
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: theflash10 on December 24, 2018, 05:48:05 pm
Quote from: Hawk4L on December 23, 2018, 12:05:06 am
Hope so with that awful record they have
Unless they plan to not play their senior year then it's wrong.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: rzrbackfan on December 26, 2018, 08:46:42 am
Quote from: Charlie1001 on November 30, 2018, 06:20:52 pm
If the Shiloh boys would practice as much as they've started self-promoting themselves on here, they might be as good as they're claiming to be.
Not sure practice would help this team.  Ive seen some bad basketball in my day, but Shiloh being 1 - 10 is just pitiful!
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on December 28, 2018, 07:04:04 pm
Pea Ridge 60
Elkins 57 final.  Elkins was 15-0 on the season
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: prHOG13 on December 29, 2018, 09:27:10 pm
Pea Ridge falls to Alma 64-62. Had a chance to win at the buzzer but just missed it long. Coble had 28, Wilkerson 16, and Rhine 12. Two pretty good teams
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: RZback on December 31, 2018, 09:11:11 am
Quote from: prHOG13 on December 17, 2018, 10:18:27 am
It's a shame Lincoln dropped to 3A. Their Jr High program has been really good the last couple years and I think they could compete pretty well in this conference the next few years.

Big game tomorrow for Pea Ridge at Farmington.

Lincoln is much better off as a  3A team in both football and basketball.  They have lacked consistency over the years.  Only being able to rise out of the bottom 4 a few times .  3A will help them.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: basketballjones on January 04, 2019, 10:49:14 pm
I have a question about the overall strength of this league. I have watched every team but Gravette and Berryville. I see a bunch of bad basketball from top to bottom (excluding the top team 3 teams obviously). Is it just a cycle of little talent or is it a lack of not getting kids better? Do we blame video games and phones for kids not putting in the work? A lot of these teams struggle to use their off hand and making an open jump shot. PG, who I'm biased for since my kids went there, have looked the part the last few years but just can't get it done. I also see a team like Shiloh and they are 2-12 with a lot of talent?! The River Valley will destroy this league come Regional time outside of the Goblins.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on January 04, 2019, 11:02:22 pm
Quote from: basketballjones on January 04, 2019, 10:49:14 pm
I have a question about the overall strength of this league. I have watched every team but Gravette and Berryville. I see a bunch of bad basketball from top to bottom (excluding the top team 3 teams obviously). Is it just a cycle of little talent or is it a lack of not getting kids better? Do we blame video games and phones for kids not putting in the work? A lot of these teams struggle to use their off hand and making an open jump shot. PG, who I'm biased for since my kids went there, have looked the part the last few years but just can't get it done. I also see a team like Shiloh and they are 2-12 with a lot of talent?! The River Valley will destroy this league come Regional time outside of the Goblins.

Got to agree... I have seen a few of these teams and its certainly not good basketball right now in NWA as a whole in my opinion. You are right, outside of Harrison the 4-4A is much better this year and will own the regional.

Also, for Prairie Grove the little I have seen in recent years they have the same coach for a decade and a half now, but it does not look at all like the same system as a decade ago when they were solid from rough 2005-2011 area. I hear they're even playing some stall ball. I can only surmise that over time the assistant who has been there a while now has had more influence on the programs offensive and defensive philosophy.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on January 04, 2019, 11:08:48 pm
Quote from: RZback on December 31, 2018, 09:11:11 am
Lincoln is much better off as a  3A team in both football and basketball.  They have lacked consistency over the years.  Only being able to rise out of the bottom 4 a few times .  3A will help them.


Lincoln has that one kid this year who is quite crafty with the ball in his hands.... the offense completely runs through him whether he shoots or drives and kicks.... my word though their defense as a team was lacking however.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BRJ_Basketball on January 07, 2019, 01:41:23 pm
What can we expect tomorrow from the Shiloh vs. Pea Ridge rivalry?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: scrapdig on January 07, 2019, 02:49:47 pm
Quote from: BRJ_Basketball on January 07, 2019, 01:41:23 pm
What can we expect tomorrow from the Shiloh vs. Pea Ridge rivalry?
Pain
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on January 07, 2019, 11:14:15 pm
Quote from: BRJ_Basketball on January 07, 2019, 01:41:23 pm
What can we expect tomorrow from the Shiloh vs. Pea Ridge rivalry?
PR by 20
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on January 08, 2019, 09:03:59 am
If you think Prairie Grove Sr high is bad it doesn't get any better in Jr High. Pea Ridge beat them 51-12 last night
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on January 08, 2019, 12:48:26 pm
Quote from: Hawk4L on January 08, 2019, 09:03:59 am
If you think Prairie Grove Sr high is bad it doesn't get any better in Jr High. Pea Ridge beat them 51-12 last night


Yes, no talent in the 8th and 9th graders at PG so it probably won't get any better either in the coming years.... Same goes for football, but not quite as extreme though there.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Charlie1001 on January 08, 2019, 10:40:26 pm
Quote from: BRJ_Basketball on January 07, 2019, 01:41:23 pm
What can we expect tomorrow from the Shiloh vs. Pea Ridge rivalry?

Rivalry?  Cough. Cough.  After seeing the score, I'm glad I decided it wasn't worth the drive over.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BRJ_Basketball on January 09, 2019, 11:47:49 am
Quote from: Charlie1001 on January 08, 2019, 10:40:26 pm
Rivalry?  Cough. Cough.  After seeing the score, I'm glad I decided it wasn't worth the drive over.
I'll have to agree with you.  It was as if Shiloh wanted nothing to do with Pea Ridge.  Lack of discipline and no one wanted to hustle on Shiloh compared to the hustle hungry team the Pea Ridge showcased last night.  Awful showing from the Saints and a disappointing season from them so far.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BRJ_Basketball on January 14, 2019, 01:16:10 pm
What happened with the Hunstville vs. Harrison game?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Livewire on January 14, 2019, 06:31:45 pm
Huntsville 79- Harrison 73 per Max Preps
There's the results, but have the feeling that isn't what you were asking. I'm wondering the same thing. All year I've been hearing the praises of Harrison and Huntsville has completely fallen off the radar. YET, they have  the win and are 4-0 in conference.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Go Postal on January 14, 2019, 08:05:23 pm
Huntsville is one of Harrison's oldest rivals, next to Mtn Home.  They always seem to play their hardest best game when they play us in all sports, especially at home.  They are not too bad this year and I was impressed when I watched that game.  Harrison let the game get away from them in Overtime but we will see what happens when the Eagles come to the new Spook House this year.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: prHOG13 on January 18, 2019, 11:01:03 pm
Anyone have updated standings for the league? I think there's a 3 way tie at the top for girls and boys might also have a 3 way tie. Gonna be a wild finish.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Go Postal on January 18, 2019, 11:47:04 pm
Quote from: prHOG13 on January 18, 2019, 11:01:03 pm
Anyone have updated standings for the league? I think there's a 3 way tie at the top for girls and boys might also have a 3 way tie. Gonna be a wild finish.
I'm sorry that I've haven't done a standing like we always did in the 5A West.  I'll try to update it if I can line all other sports and if anyone from 4A wants to give input, be all the better.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: prHOG13 on January 19, 2019, 12:42:16 am
Quote from: Go Postal on January 18, 2019, 11:47:04 pm
I'm sorry that I've haven't done a standing like we always did in the 5A West.  I'll try to update it if I can line all other sports and if anyone from 4A wants to give input, be all the better.
I decided to give it a look. Based on MaxPreps:

Girls
Pea Ridge is 18-3 (5-1) only loss @ Farmington
Berryville is 20-1 (5-1) only loss @ Pea Ridge
Harrison 16-4 (5-1) only loss vs Berryville
Farmington 16-4 (5-1) only loss @ Farmington

Boys
Farmington 15-6 (6-0)
Pea Ridge 17-4 (6-1) only loss in 3 OT @ Farmington
Harrison 15-5 (5-1) only loss @ Huntsville
Huntsville 14-6 (6-1) only loss @ Pea Ridge by 3
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Cajun Hog on January 22, 2019, 03:53:42 pm
Quote from: prHOG13 on January 19, 2019, 12:42:16 am
I decided to give it a look. Based on MaxPreps:

Girls
Pea Ridge is 18-3 (5-1) only loss @ Farmington
Berryville is 20-1 (5-1) only loss @ Pea Ridge
Harrison 16-4 (5-1) only loss vs Berryville
Farmington 16-4 (5-1) only loss @ Farmington

Boys
Farmington 15-6 (6-0)
Pea Ridge 17-4 (6-1) only loss in 3 OT @ Farmington
Harrison 15-5 (5-1) only loss @ Huntsville
Huntsville 14-6 (6-1) only loss @ Pea Ridge by 3

With them being east & west division, are they going to split the seeds for district?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on January 22, 2019, 04:11:00 pm
4E vs 5W winner plays 3W— winner plays 2E—winner plays  1W
3E vs 4W winner plays 2W— winner plays 1E


Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: prHOG13 on January 22, 2019, 05:17:13 pm
(https://w1.minpic.de/t/702x/172nys) (https://w1.minpic.de/i/702x/172nys)

Learn how to post a pic Hawk4L ya old man ;)
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: BRJ_Basketball on January 30, 2019, 02:48:39 pm
Anyone know who is in the East and West division of 4A-1?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on January 30, 2019, 04:57:03 pm
East
Berryville
Harrison
Shiloh
Huntsville

West
Pea Ridge
Farmington
Gravette
Gentry
Prairie Grove
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on January 30, 2019, 05:58:33 pm
Having divisions in a 9 team league makes no sense.... Ever heard of just playing a home & home for a total of 16 games so you have a balanced conference schedule? Might have been too radical of an idea for some conference coaches I guess  8)
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Go Postal on January 30, 2019, 08:30:01 pm
Quote from: Hawk4L on January 30, 2019, 04:57:03 pm
East
Berryville
Harrison
Shiloh
Huntsville

West
Pea Ridge
Farmington
Gravette
Gentry
Prairie Grove
Quote from: beach bum on January 30, 2019, 05:58:33 pm
Having divisions in a 9 team league makes no sense.... Ever heard of just playing a home & home for a total of 16 games so you have a balanced conference schedule? Might have been too radical of an idea for some conference coaches I guess  8)
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That us guys from the 5A West feel that we been in that conference.  Thanks guys for helping us learn about districts and regionals.  I was wanting to do a 4A-1 standings but even though I could find out who was in the 4A-1, I was confused on who was in the East or West.  This info helps me and others from the old 5A West to understand more of what the structure of how the teams are separated.  This might could help beachbum and me in understanding stuff when the Spring sports start. 
One thing that I had a question on was why is Shiloh in the East?  Are they closer to Huntsville than Farmington or Pea Ridge?
That also brings to mind, during soccer season, Shiloh only has a girl's team and Farmington doesn't play that sport.  I know Huntsville, Berryville has both genders for that sport but not sure of the rest of the 4A-1.  Kayyy rap, I'm confused again of who does what with whom and when. ??? ;)
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Cajun Hog on January 30, 2019, 08:36:40 pm
Quote from: beach bum on January 30, 2019, 05:58:33 pm
Having divisions in a 9 team league makes no sense.... Ever heard of just playing a home & home for a total of 16 games so you have a balanced conference schedule? Might have been too radical of an idea for some conference coaches I guess  8)

My understanding is coaches didn't want just 2 non-conference games playing full round-robin schedule.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on January 30, 2019, 09:28:18 pm
Pea Ridge is closer then Shiloh to those east teams. We shoulda been in east but I'm glad we are not.
Pea Ridge doesn't have soccer not sure about the rest of the schools
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: prHOG13 on January 31, 2019, 12:02:23 am
Logistics have never made sense when it comestibles conference realignment in Arkansas
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on January 31, 2019, 10:27:58 am
I get all the points you all are making, but an unbalanced conference schedule has always been a joke to me. How on Earth is it fair that one West team draws Huntsville @ home and Shiloh on the road while the next West team draws Huntsville on the road and Shiloh at home. The first scenario you are giving yourself a shot at 2-0 in those games while the other scenario good luck winning @ Huntsville so you are probably only looking at a split in those two games. Your conference schedule should never be compromised at the expense of non conference games because non conference games have ZERO bearing of how it impacts postseason. Seeding for district is based upon your regular season conference record, not who you lost or beat in essentially meaningless non-conference tournaments.


And to Postal with the soccer question.... Prairie Grove has boys and girls teams. In the old classification format PG was kind of middle of the pack to getting 3rd or so on good years in the conference. I think they'll take a tiny step back with the addition of some more solid teams into the 4A soccer mix. Pea Ridge and Farmington need to get on board and start playing. They  have no excuses cause their enrollment is getting plenty high enough to support a program.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Hawk4L on January 31, 2019, 12:49:21 pm
Pea ridge has a league for soccer for like 5-18yrs old. Not sure why we don't have it at schools yet.  I agree there shouldn't be split divisions in conference
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Go Postal on January 31, 2019, 08:55:51 pm
That other sport is getting more and more popular with schools (especially smaller schools) do to the fact that it costs less for the schools than most other sports.  Basically a pitch (field a little larger than a football field), two goals and uniforms.  Parents supply shin guards and shoes and also lawn chairs for themselves at games.  No gyms or arenas. No football protective gear or stadium.  Just two halves of 40 minutes of constant stamina , skill and strategy.  Harrison has had a youth soccer league from kindergarten up to 8th grade then you can play high school soccer starting in your freshman year.  Hiring a great soccer coach is a great plus if the school can afford it.  I believe that parent, student and school participation for the program is what has lead Harrison to have the most boys/girls State Championships in that sport only tied with Bentonville over the years.  We have also some of the best grass and turf fields for tournament play that you can find due to the community donations.  Matter of fact, Bergman will host the 3A state playoffs at our facilities this year.
Anything can happen if the community shows the local school board that another sport offered is wanted by the parents and students.  Let's say your kid is too short for basketball and might not be big enough for football and doesn't play baseball but has a lot of energy, discipline and passion to play a sport.  What is she or he to do?  All of sudden the school starts a soccer program that utilizes a basketball strategy but with 11 players on a team and on a larger than a football field playing a 80 minute game with no timeouts and using every part of your body except your arms or hands to move the ball.  Priceless.  A good example of a larger school starting this other sports program is Alma.  They have one if the best basketball arenas in the State.  A very good football program.  But didn't offer Soccer until pressure from the community, students and others showed their school board that it was a wanted program to offer the kids.  Alma hired one of the best soccer coaches in the State to teach their young team.  Reminds me of Harrison back in 2001.  I believe this will be the 1st year that they will play varsity soccer and they will be playing two of the best old 6A teams in the West (I'm only sorry that Harrison isn't in the 5A for that this year).  But trial by fire is what makes a new sports program in to a great boys and/or girls team.  Yes, I will secretly be rooting for the 'dales for "coming out if the closet" and venturing into something new.
Farmington, Pea Ridge and other schools would be welcomed in that boys/girls sport.  Let your school board know.
...off my soapbox now.  Back to basketball.
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: doctor in the house on February 01, 2019, 11:53:32 pm
The Sr. boys coach at Huntsville has done an outstanding job with his team this season..
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Sigmund Sauer on February 01, 2019, 11:57:47 pm
Quote from: Go Postal on January 31, 2019, 08:55:51 pm
That other sport is getting more and more popular with schools (especially smaller schools) do to the fact that it costs less for the schools than most other sports.  Basically a pitch (field a little larger than a football field), two goals and uniforms.  Parents supply shin guards and shoes and also lawn chairs for themselves at games.  No gyms or arenas. No football protective gear or stadium.  Just two halves of 40 minutes of constant stamina , skill and strategy.  Harrison has had a youth soccer league from kindergarten up to 8th grade then you can play high school soccer starting in your freshman year.  Hiring a great soccer coach is a great plus if the school can afford it.  I believe that parent, student and school participation for the program is what has lead Harrison to have the most boys/girls State Championships in that sport only tied with Bentonville over the years.  We have also some of the best grass and turf fields for tournament play that you can find due to the community donations.  Matter of fact, Bergman will host the 3A state playoffs at our facilities this year.
Anything can happen if the community shows the local school board that another sport offered is wanted by the parents and students.  Let's say your kid is too short for basketball and might not be big enough for football and doesn't play baseball but has a lot of energy, discipline and passion to play a sport.  What is she or he to do?  All of sudden the school starts a soccer program that utilizes a basketball strategy but with 11 players on a team and on a larger than a football field playing a 80 minute game with no timeouts and using every part of your body except your arms or hands to move the ball.  Priceless.  A good example of a larger school starting this other sports program is Alma.  They have one if the best basketball arenas in the State.  A very good football program.  But didn't offer Soccer until pressure from the community, students and others showed their school board that it was a wanted program to offer the kids.  Alma hired one of the best soccer coaches in the State to teach their young team.  Reminds me of Harrison back in 2001.  I believe this will be the 1st year that they will play varsity soccer and they will be playing two of the best old 6A teams in the West (I'm only sorry that Harrison isn't in the 5A for that this year).  But trial by fire is what makes a new sports program in to a great boys and/or girls team.  Yes, I will secretly be rooting for the 'dales for "coming out if the closet" and venturing into something new.
Farmington, Pea Ridge and other schools would be welcomed in that boys/girls sport.  Let your school board know.
...off my soapbox now.  Back to basketball.
Someone want to summarize this?
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: beach bum on February 02, 2019, 09:02:41 am
Quote from: Sigmund Sauer on February 01, 2019, 11:57:47 pm
Someone want to summarize this?


We were trying to figure out what schools in the new "other sports 1-4A" played soccer. They all need to get on board.


-And I am kind of shocked Huntsville swept Harrison this year
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Trackhawk on February 02, 2019, 05:35:51 pm
Quote from: Sigmund Sauer on February 01, 2019, 11:57:47 pm
Someone want to summarize this?
"Soccer good?"  Interesting fact is that the injury rate per student participating in soccer is much higher than the rate for students participating in football.  I would assume that would derive from all the collisions among players with no padding, and the fact that players use their head to strike a soccer ball.  Heading the ball is not much of a risk to grown matured players but youth or prep.....
Title: Re: 4A-1
Post by: Baller91 on February 03, 2019, 01:19:50 pm
Does anyone know what the criteria is for the all-state team? In football it is voted on by the coaches, but someone mentioned that they do it differently in basketball. Any insight?