Welcome to FearlessFriday.com! Today is Tuesday, November 21st, 2017.
Week 10 Review
Week 9 Review
Week 8 Review
Week 7 Review
Week 6 Review
Week 5 Review

Author Topic: Historical AAA classifications  (Read 710 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline friscokid

  • Water Boy
  • *
  • Posts: 39
  • Karma: +2/-1
  • Fearless Friday--The Online Home of Arkansas High School Sports!
Historical AAA classifications
« on: November 11, 2017, 11:29:46 pm »
I’m fascinated by what level schools used to play in the past and how they’ve changed. For instance, Pottsville was a Class B school in the 1980s and now they’re a 4A. Marianna was in the top classification at one point and is now 2A, which is stunning.

How much has your school changed over the years?

Offline tmycjy

  • Official FF 5A Predictions Expert
  • Assistant Coach
  • *
  • Posts: 4,805
  • Karma: +326/-404
  • Gender: Male
  • Go Wynne Yellow Jackets Go The Delta Swarm
Re: Historical AAA classifications
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2017, 07:11:53 am »
Here are some that will shock u


Old 3-A East in the 1990's

Wynne now a 5-A school
Newport now a 3-A school
Osceola now a 3-A school
Marianna or lee county high school now 3-A school fixing to be a 2-A school
Marion now 6-A school
Batesville now 5-A school
Green county tech now  5-A school
Ridgcrest now Paragould now 5-A school

Offline RD™

  • Est 1996
  • Legend
  • ****
  • Posts: 27,786
  • Karma: +1281/-3058
  • Hated In Marion Since 2004
Re: Historical AAA classifications
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2017, 07:11:25 pm »
Here are some that will shock u


Old 3-A East in the 1990's

Wynne now a 5-A school
Newport now a 3-A school
Osceola now a 3-A school
Marianna or lee county high school now 3-A school fixing to be a 2-A school
Marion now 6-A school
Batesville now 5-A school
Green county tech now  5-A school
Ridgcrest now Paragould now 5-A school
Osceola.

Greenwood at Osceola 1998. Worst officiating I've ever seen in Person. Phantom Pass Offensive Pass interference calls. Fattest refs I've ever seen as well, completely out of place to make calls.

Offline beach bum

  • Head Coach
  • **
  • Posts: 5,627
  • Karma: +365/-507
  • Gender: Male
  • Fearless Friday--The Online Home of Arkansas High School Sports!
Re: Historical AAA classifications
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2017, 09:06:26 pm »
I’m fascinated by what level schools used to play in the past and how they’ve changed. For instance, Pottsville was a Class B school in the 1980s and now they’re a 4A. Marianna was in the top classification at one point and is now 2A, which is stunning.

How much has your school changed over the years?

That one is just crazy!

Offline 1-Adam-12

  • Assistant Coach
  • *
  • Posts: 3,663
  • Karma: +114/-55
  • Gender: Male
  • State Champs 1986, 2000, 2013
Re: Historical AAA classifications
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2017, 09:34:20 pm »
A few months ago, I was having a FB conversation with a friend who is a Stuttgart alum. Part of it was a 1972 newspaper clipping showing the AP Top 10 with Stuttgart as #1. (That's overall.)

What caught my eye was the Class AA rankings and others that received votes. (Keep in mind that at that time the classes were AAAA, AAA, AA, A, B.)

The seven schools in what was then Class AA that received votes, with their current classifications:

Stuttgart (4A)
Rogers (7A)
Morrilton (5A)
Cabot (7A)
Conway (7A)
HS Lakeside (5A)
McGehee (3A)

To think McGehee was once in the same classification as Rogers, Conway, and Cabot back then boggles the mind.  Yet there they were!

How many different directions these schools have gone.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2017, 09:44:02 pm by 1-Adam-12 »

Offline philip.seaton

  • Fearless Friday Moderator
  • 2nd String
  • *****
  • Posts: 622
  • Karma: +58/-35
  • Your number 1 high school board. Fearless Fridays!
Re: Historical AAA classifications
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2017, 11:41:46 pm »
Try a few of these results from Week 3 in 1933:

Carlisle 27, Little Rock Catholic 0
Russellville 13, Prescott 0
Glenwood 12, Arkadelphia 0
Nashville 58, Waldo 0
Springdale 19, Huntsville 0
Texarkana (Texas High) 31, Horatio 0
Newport 18, Tuckerman 0
Batesville 61, Cotter 0

The history part of high school football in the state is always interesting.

Offline wildcat_x-mgr

  • All Star
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,202
  • Karma: +140/-71
  • Gender: Male
  • On the rise!
    • Facebook
Re: Historical AAA classifications
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2017, 08:52:28 pm »
Rison's local weekly paper always has one section called "Other Days" which shows headlines and partial stories from five years ago, ten years ago, twenty years ago, etc. Sometimes it's fun to see who we played (and beat convincingly) back in the forties, fifties, sixties and such. Watson Chapel, White Hall, Hot Springs, Hot Springs Lakeside, once we even beat Lake Hamilton by over seventy! Imagine that!

Offline friscokid

  • Water Boy
  • *
  • Posts: 39
  • Karma: +2/-1
  • Fearless Friday--The Online Home of Arkansas High School Sports!
Re: Historical AAA classifications
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2017, 10:38:15 pm »
I learned that Atkins is 7-0 all-time against Harrison. All those meetings were before WWII.

Offline beach bum

  • Head Coach
  • **
  • Posts: 5,627
  • Karma: +365/-507
  • Gender: Male
  • Fearless Friday--The Online Home of Arkansas High School Sports!
Re: Historical AAA classifications
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2017, 10:16:28 am »
I remember when the old Class A conference in NWA in the early 90's to late 90's used to look like this below.... Went to AA when they got rid of the B schools and moved everyone up....

-Pea Ridge (will be 5A in 2020)
-Elkins (moving to 4A in 2018)
-Mountainburg (4-2A)
-Decatur (4-2A)
-Cedarville (4-3A)
-Greenland (1-3A)
-Shiloh Christian (1-4A)
***A random team or two closer to Ft Smith usually made the 8th team or even 9th team sometimes in the league


{Also of note in the late 90's those teams listed above Shiloh refused to play the Saints for a two year cycle I believe, causing the Saints to play a whole slate against teams one class higher like Prairie Grove, Gravette, Gentry, etc. which they play currently. Shiloh was awarded the 1 seed by the other teams forfeiting, but Greenland and possibly Cedarville claim conference titles in the late 90's that they did not actually win cause they forfeited to Shiloh and were the 2 seeds in the playoffs, but still claiming it in their own records. Greenland I know for sure in 1998, maybe Cedarville  in 1999}
« Last Edit: November 14, 2017, 10:25:57 am by beach bum »

Offline HorseFeathers

  • Legend
  • ****
  • Posts: 28,550
  • Karma: +1109/-1509
  • Gender: Male
Re: Historical AAA classifications
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2017, 10:46:43 am »
I remember when the old Class A conference in NWA in the early 90's to late 90's used to look like this below.... Went to AA when they got rid of the B schools and moved everyone up....

-Pea Ridge (will be 5A in 2020)
-Elkins (moving to 4A in 2018)
-Mountainburg (4-2A)
-Decatur (4-2A)
-Cedarville (4-3A)
-Greenland (1-3A)
-Shiloh Christian (1-4A)
***A random team or two closer to Ft Smith usually made the 8th team or even 9th team sometimes in the league


{Also of note in the late 90's those teams listed above Shiloh refused to play the Saints for a two year cycle I believe, causing the Saints to play a whole slate against teams one class higher like Prairie Grove, Gravette, Gentry, etc. which they play currently. Shiloh was awarded the 1 seed by the other teams forfeiting, but Greenland and possibly Cedarville claim conference titles in the late 90's that they did not actually win cause they forfeited to Shiloh and were the 2 seeds in the playoffs, but still claiming it in their own records. Greenland I know for sure in 1998, maybe Cedarville  in 1999}


I think one of those years was 2000....can vaguely remember some griping amongst Hector folks of having to play then as the 4 seed after Shiloh had played up all year...

Offline friscokid

  • Water Boy
  • *
  • Posts: 39
  • Karma: +2/-1
  • Fearless Friday--The Online Home of Arkansas High School Sports!
Re: Historical AAA classifications
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2017, 11:10:08 am »
The AAA had to step in during the next cycle and force those teams to play Shiloh or else be ineligible for the playoffs. Soon after, the multiplier went in effect and Shiloh moved up anyway.

Offline OLDSCHOOL82

  • Assistant Coach
  • *
  • Posts: 3,607
  • Karma: +761/-381
  • Gender: Male
  • Carpe Diem !
Re: Historical AAA classifications
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2017, 11:20:45 am »
.

Offline friscokid

  • Water Boy
  • *
  • Posts: 39
  • Karma: +2/-1
  • Fearless Friday--The Online Home of Arkansas High School Sports!
Re: Historical AAA classifications
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2017, 11:20:29 pm »
I can remember when Arkansas had hard cutoff numbers for each class:
AAAAA — over 1600
AAAA — 800-1600
AAA — 400-800
AA — 200-400
A — 100-200
B — under 100
I think that went away in 1991 when the AAA started ranking schools and going 32-32-64-the rest.

Offline HorseFeathers

  • Legend
  • ****
  • Posts: 28,550
  • Karma: +1109/-1509
  • Gender: Male
Re: Historical AAA classifications
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2017, 06:11:56 am »
I can remember when Arkansas had hard cutoff numbers for each class:
AAAAA — over 1600
AAAA — 800-1600
AAA — 400-800
AA — 200-400
A — 100-200
B — under 100
I think that went away in 1991 when the AAA started ranking schools and going 32-32-64-the rest.

The top 1 went away in thrbmid-80's when the class dropped to 6 schools...

But I wouldn't be opposed to this coming back...

 

Fox 16 Arkansas Fox 24 Arkansas