Big game coming up in Jonesboro this weekend. Should be a pretty electric atmosphere. Thoughts or predictions?
Did these teams play last year? How'd they get Mizzou to come to Jonesboro?
Big game is relative. I'm not sure how big this game is for Mizzou
Mizzou better take it seriously or they could be surprised. Should be a great atmosphere. ASU is anticipating breaking attendance records for this one.
I'm sure they're scared silly of a team that lost 55-6 last week
Wasn't saying they should be scared. Just that they shouldn't overlook ASU at home. USC is a legit college playoff team this year. I don't think ASU had a chance going into that one.
I always enjoy seeing the bigger schools visit the smaller ones in a true road game.
Oklahoma State went to Central Michigan in week 1.
Michigan State went to Western Michigan in week 1.
Missouri is going to Arkansas State in week 2.
Florida will be going to Colorado State in the future (can't remember which season)
And I'm sure there are others. Most of them are "2-for-1" deals, but it's still pretty cool to see.
While I think Missouri will win, it should be a great atmosphere for A-State fans to witness an SEC team in their home stadium.
As an add on: the Miami Hurricanes will also be playing in Jonesboro soon (I believe in 2016 or 2017).
Red Wolves leading 17-10 at halftime! Blocking has been really great, glad to see that!
Now to just come out for the second half and finish the job!
Really, REALLY proud of our team and coaches!!
27-20. Tough loss.
We played well enough to win. Our defense was impressive, but those two picks in the 2nd half put them in bad position. If Fredi doesn't go out in the 3rd, we probably win that game or at least score one more TD. I'm proud of our guys, i think if we can beat Toledo we can run the table the rest of the way. We're definitely good enough to.
Quote from: Redwolves8526 on September 14, 2015, 09:55:25 am
if we can beat Toledo
Lanny might have to close down Hogville for the season if that happens
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if we can beat Toledo
Lanny might have to close down Hogville for the season if that happens
Me and my friends are making the drive up to watch. Haha we'll see how it goes. They won't run the ball all over us like they did last year.
At this point ASU looks better than the U of A, even at 0-2. Hogs can't sell out the Rock with what they thought was a cupcake win, even with a FREE concert after the game! Heck, let's play the Hogs in LR and I promise it will be a sell out, make it a charity event, still have the concert and we will all have fun and keep all of the money in the state!!! It is time for this to happen! We might just make the hogs a better team because of the fear factor! And for us, we will still be who we are!
Keeping the money in the state is a terrible argument. What does it matter if Arkansas pays someone from out of state and Arkansas State gets paid by someone out of state? The result is the same
Unbiased long time observer. The Hogs playing ASU has no upside for the Hogs. I agree its a big deal in every other state, in the union, but this is Arkansas and the Hogs are SEC Challenged. Not being able to recruit, with other SEC Programs, means they'll always be an upset team. Playing ASU has nothing to offer but risk. As it is now they can flip most recruits who commit to ASU. Recruiting isn't going to get any better in this state for the Hogs. Beating ASU would do nothing for them, but if in one of those bad years they were to lose? Unfortunately the Hogs will never have a rivalry, which in itself can be a recruiter with it's traditions, football atmosphere, and televised coverage. But keeping ASU in a bottle is in their best interest, even though an UAF vs ASU Game would bring something to this state it currently doesn't have. The good olé days, in the Southwest Conference, are long gone for Arkansas. Kids, like 12th Man, have never experienced real football tradition!
Quote from: 12th Man CHS on September 15, 2015, 07:52:28 am
Keeping the money in the state is a terrible argument. What does it matter if Arkansas pays someone from out of state and Arkansas State gets paid by someone out of state? The result is the same
So how much money did UAF export from the state economy this year? El Paso, Toledo, Tex Tech, Martin? Can you find out 12th man? Three or Four Million? How much did Arkansas State get paid by someone out of state as you put it? USC - 1 million? Help me with that?
3 mil - 1 mil = 2 mil taken out of state economy.
Let's say UAF played ASU instead of Toledo, this year.
2 mil - 1 mil = 1 mil less, taken out of state economy (Razorback's need to ask Toledo for that money back). Rent-a-wins have really taken a lot out of college football.
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Quote from: 12th Man CHS on September 15, 2015, 07:52:28 am
Keeping the money in the state is a terrible argument. What does it matter if Arkansas pays someone from out of state and Arkansas State gets paid by someone out of state? The result is the same
So how much money did UAF export from the state economy this year? El Paso, Toledo, Tex Tech, Martin? Can you find out 12th man? Few Million? How much did Arkansas State get paid by someone out of state as you put it? USC - 1 million? Help me with that?
I believe ASU got 1.2 million from USC. It was the biggest money game played that week for sure. Don't know if any other teams are getting more than that this season for a game.
Quote from: OliverBoy11 on September 15, 2015, 08:55:50 am
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Quote from: 12th Man CHS on September 15, 2015, 07:52:28 am
Keeping the money in the state is a terrible argument. What does it matter if Arkansas pays someone from out of state and Arkansas State gets paid by someone out of state? The result is the same
So how much money did UAF export from the state economy this year? El Paso, Toledo, Tex Tech, Martin? Can you find out 12th man? Few Million? How much did Arkansas State get paid by someone out of state as you put it? USC - 1 million? Help me with that?
I believe ASU got 1.2 million from USC. It was the biggest money game played that week for sure. Don't know if any other teams are getting more than that this season for a game.
I'm not sure. It would be slightly skewed this year since Arkansas State got Missouri at home instead of being paid to go there. I think the only way this could benefit us in any way would be if we didn't have to pay ASU to play us
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Quote from: 12th Man CHS on September 15, 2015, 07:52:28 am
Keeping the money in the state is a terrible argument. What does it matter if Arkansas pays someone from out of state and Arkansas State gets paid by someone out of state? The result is the same
So how much money did UAF export from the state economy this year? El Paso, Toledo, Tex Tech, Martin? Can you find out 12th man? Few Million? How much did Arkansas State get paid by someone out of state as you put it? USC - 1 million? Help me with that?
I believe ASU got 1.2 million from USC. It was the biggest money game played that week for sure. Don't know if any other teams are getting more than that this season for a game.
I'm not sure. It would be slightly skewed this year since Arkansas State got Missouri at home instead of being paid to go there. I think the only way this could benefit us in any way would be if we didn't have to pay ASU to play us
The state legislature could make it mandatory and then no one would have to get paid.
If we played in Little Rock every year, why would the Pigs have to pay us?
It's a dead issue anyway - Hogs would have to be made to play another instate team. They aren't going to risk unlatching the lock on that monopoly. All will remain the same in Arkansas.
Quote from: Valleysports on September 15, 2015, 10:36:41 am
It's a dead issue anyway - Hogs would have to be made to play another instate team. They aren't going to risk unlatching the lock on that monopoly. All will remain the same in Arkansas.
Well just look how well the current plan has worked the last 20 years. Why would they want to change that? ::)
Are there any real benefits for the Razorbacks to play ASU? I'd like to see the game, but there is nothing for the U of A to gain.
I hope our legislature has more pressing issues than football to worry about. But if they make Arkansas play ASU, will they also be making the schedule out for ASU? Would they (ASU) be forced to play UCA, or Arkansas Tech, or Harding? Their entire non conference schedule could be in state schools. Of course that leaves no room for the big money pay off games that they have to have in order to sustain the program.
I hope the two big in state football programs meet up in a bowl game maybe, but I see a lot of probs with making them play each other annually.
Quote from: Moonshiner on September 16, 2015, 09:30:13 am
Are there any real benefits for the Razorbacks to play ASU? I'd like to see the game, but there is nothing for the U of A to gain.
I hope our legislature has more pressing issues than football to worry about. But if they make Arkansas play ASU, will they also be making the schedule out for ASU? Would they (ASU) be forced to play UCA, or Arkansas Tech, or Harding? Their entire non conference schedule could be in state schools. Of course that leaves no room for the big money pay off games that they have to have in order to sustain the program.
I hope the two big in state football programs meet up in a bowl game maybe, but I see a lot of probs with making them play each other annually.
You do realize that Alabama's legislature mandated that Auburn and Alabama play right? And Harding is a private school so the legislature can't force them to play anyone. I wouldn't be opposed to them forcing Tech and UCA to play either.
Quote from: Moonshiner on September 16, 2015, 09:30:13 am
Are there any real benefits for the Razorbacks to play ASU? I'd like to see the game, but there is nothing for the U of A to gain.
I hope our legislature has more pressing issues than football to worry about. But if they make Arkansas play ASU, will they also be making the schedule out for ASU? Would they (ASU) be forced to play UCA, or Arkansas Tech, or Harding? Their entire non conference schedule could be in state schools. Of course that leaves no room for the big money pay off games that they have to have in order to sustain the program.
I hope the two big in state football programs meet up in a bowl game maybe, but I see a lot of probs with making them play each other annually.
NOPE - just the one game. The rest of the state would like to see tradition created, new fans brought in, and an overall Football Atmosphere that is slowly, but surely, shrinking to NWA. I don't have a dog in the fight - but selfishness and greed have robbed this state of a huge opportunity. ASU will consistently be top tier in the Sun Belt Conference, UCA top tier in Southland Conference, DII (GAC) has a hundred years of tradition, and the University of Arkansas will consistently struggle to finish .500 in the SEC West. And the wheel goes round n round.......
Quote from: phdefense on September 16, 2015, 10:27:24 am
I wouldn't be opposed to them forcing Tech and UCA to play either.
TECH (DII) only has 36 scholarships compared to 63 (FCS) & 85 (FBS). Now that TECH's numbers are creeping up on ASU, should TECH go DI? Heck NO! Like I said - the tradition is in DII with Harding, OBU, Henderson, SAU, UAM... UCA left that tradition and now no one even knows or cares what out-of-state team they play. Samford - Sam Houston State - yeah Go Bears....
Quote from: Valleysports on September 16, 2015, 11:09:52 am
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I wouldn't be opposed to them forcing Tech and UCA to play either.
TECH (DII) only has 36 scholarships compared to 63 (FCS) & 85 (FBS). Now that TECH's numbers are creeping up on ASU, should TECH go DI? Heck NO! Like I said - the tradition is in DII with Harding, OBU, Henderson, SAU, UAM... UCA left that tradition and now no one even knows or cares what out-of-state team they play. Samford - Sam Houston State - yeah Go Bears....
maybe a simple comprehensive legislation. All state funded schools must schedule at least 1 instate school of equal level. FBS vs FBS, FCS vs FCS, DII vs DII etc... It could be the KIIA(Keep It In Arkansas) initiative.
That would be:
Arkansas vs Arkansas State
UCA vs UAPB
GAC has DII covered
not sure about the DIII situation
Well there you - problem solved!
On a side note - some conferences are starting to limit the number of rent-a-win now. I hope the NCAA shuts the whole thing down eventually. Instead of a million, the FBS could pay for expenses and etc., but put an end to this ridiculous sell out of college football.
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Quote from: Moonshiner on September 16, 2015, 09:30:13 am
Are there any real benefits for the Razorbacks to play ASU? I'd like to see the game, but there is nothing for the U of A to gain.
I hope our legislature has more pressing issues than football to worry about. But if they make Arkansas play ASU, will they also be making the schedule out for ASU? Would they (ASU) be forced to play UCA, or Arkansas Tech, or Harding? Their entire non conference schedule could be in state schools. Of course that leaves no room for the big money pay off games that they have to have in order to sustain the program.
I hope the two big in state football programs meet up in a bowl game maybe, but I see a lot of probs with making them play each other annually.
You do realize that Alabama's legislature mandated that Auburn and Alabama play right? And Harding is a private school so the legislature can't force them to play anyone. I wouldn't be opposed to them forcing Tech and UCA to play either.
I don't pay taxes in Alabama, so I didn't know that. Football is not a pressing issue for our elected officials.
Welllllll LOL maybe I know some exceptions. When they become elected officials, are they supposed to stop being football fans? Not having to work, for a living, gives them plenty of time for Saturday Football.
Valley they might be porn fans or Beatles fans too. Doesn't mean they should start legislating things they are fans of. I'd rather they be focused on school funding or keeping Muslim refugees out of our state, or items that are much more important than whether or not Arkansas plays ASU. That's not their job.
Mandate it is what I will say! U of A has a way of falling on the sword early in the season, seams to me that they are never prepared for the early games! If they knew that they would be playing ASU in week 1,2, or 3, I would be willing to bet that things would change one the Hill! I just don't understand the sluggish starts up there over the past years and yet it continues with BB! So what if ASU wins, what is the difference with Toledo or ULM winning? An ASU win would make the U of A a better program the following year!
So you're gonna take a big money game where you might make a million dollars and replace it with an opponent you have to share gate money with? Or if it's played home and home I would think Arkansas would get the bigger share since their stadium is much bigger.
I hope they play each other. I'd love to see it. I'm just saying the legislature shouldn't be making out the football schedules of two universities.
Things like this are why some Arkansas fans have grown to dislike ASU
They shouldn't be dealing with Gay Marriage either, but they are. I'm glad you think highly of your elected officials and their commitment to solving serious issues. It takes Legislature to break monopolies and UAF is running a monopoly. We've said over and over that UAF has no incentive to play ASU - if UAF could, they'd drive the local Mom-n-Pop Store out of business.
Quote from: Valleysports on September 17, 2015, 08:03:46 am
They shouldn't be dealing with Gay Marriage either, but they are. I'm glad you think highly of your elected officials and their commitment to solving serious issues. It takes Legislature to break monopolies and UAF is running a monopoly. We've said over and over that UAF has no incentive to play ASU - if UAF could, they'd drive the local Mom-n-Pop Store out of business.
I didn't say I think highly of them. I said they shouldn't be making football schedules. That's what an Athletic director is for. I didn't think you were for Big government Valley. What does The U of A have a monopoly on? Fan support? Doesn't each fan have the right to support whomever they choose?
Quote from: 12th Man CHS on September 17, 2015, 07:49:26 am
Things like this are why some Arkansas fans have grown to dislike ASU
It would be a lot easier if they would just be seen and not heard wouldn't it 12th? If you only realized the reason's people don't like Hog Fans. LOL There's the Idiot Hog Fan, Realistic Hog Fan, & Casual Hog Fan. Which one are you?
For what reasons 12th man? For any reasons you list, I can list legitimate reasons why some ASU fans have grown to dislike U of A.
However, i am not one of those people. I don't root against the Hogs and I don't think there is any reason to. I do believe Arkansas can have two major D-1 programs and I think we will sooner or later. ASU is just getting better.
ASU is still little brother right now. I hope y'all grow your program, but for now it's just simply not on the same level as Arkansas. There's no benefit in Arkansas playing ASU, so since we refused then ASU tries to get the parents to make us play you
Quote from: 12th Man CHS on September 17, 2015, 09:46:19 am
ASU is still little brother right now. I hope y'all grow your program, but for now it's just simply not on the same level as Arkansas. There's no benefit in Arkansas playing ASU, so since we refused then ASU tries to get the parents to make us play you
When did I ever say we were on the same level? And what benefit does Arkansas have playing Toledo and ULM?
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Quote from: 12th Man CHS on September 17, 2015, 09:46:19 am
ASU is still little brother right now. I hope y'all grow your program, but for now it's just simply not on the same level as Arkansas. There's no benefit in Arkansas playing ASU, so since we refused then ASU tries to get the parents to make us play you
When did I ever say we were on the same level? And what benefit does Arkansas have playing Toledo and ULM?
Doesn't affect our recruiting if we lose
I read something a while back that said Arkansas was one of like 2 states in the lower 48 that did not play an in-state DI rivalry game. Literally every other state with 2 or more in state programs play each other. I don't think it's up to the legislature to make it happen, but if it wasn't beneficial in some way, I don't think all the other states would do it.
Quote from: 12th Man CHS on September 17, 2015, 10:29:08 am
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Quote from: 12th Man CHS on September 17, 2015, 09:46:19 am
ASU is still little brother right now. I hope y'all grow your program, but for now it's just simply not on the same level as Arkansas. There's no benefit in Arkansas playing ASU, so since we refused then ASU tries to get the parents to make us play you
When did I ever say we were on the same level? And what benefit does Arkansas have playing Toledo and ULM?
Doesn't affect our recruiting if we lose
You losing to Toledo and ULM doesnt hurt your recruiting? Seriously?
And even if ASU did beat you once or twice, how many in state kids are you really going to lose?
Quote from: OliverBoy11 on September 17, 2015, 10:29:21 am
I read something a while back that said Arkansas was one of like 2 states in the lower 48 that did not play an in-state DI rivalry game. Literally every other state with 2 or more in state programs play each other. I don't think it's up to the legislature to make it happen, but if it wasn't beneficial in some way, I don't think all the other states would do it.
Most other states have a natural rival. Arkansas and Arkansas State, while both may be D1, are not on the same level.
Here's a list of all state rivalries. For the purposes of this post I am limiting it to FBS schools unless the state only has FCS.
Alabama - Alabama and Auburn (conference)
Arizona - Arizona and Arizona State (conference)
Arkansas - Arkansas and Arkansas State do not play each other this season.
Cal - Several in the Pac-12 (conference)
Colorado - Colorado and Colorado State (long-time rival, originally same conference)
Connecticut - UConn doesn't have an in-state opponent on their schedule this year.
Delaware - Delaware and Delaware State (conference)
Florida - Florida and FSU (both power 5 teams)
Georgia - Georgia and Georgia Tech (long-time rival)
Idaho - Idaho and Boise (formerly in the same conference, long-time rival)
Illinois - Illinois and Northwestern (conference)
Indiana - Indiana and Purdue (conference)
Iowa - Iowa and Iowa State (both power 5)
Kansas - Kansas and Kansas State (conference)
Kentucky - Kentucky and Louisville (both power 5)
Louisiana - LSU does not play an in-state D1 opponent this year (Why aren't they playing Louisiana Tech, ULL, or ULM?) ULL and ULM play, though, so I guess that counts for the sake of that post.
Maine - Maine does not play an in-state opponent this year.
Maryland - Maryland does not play an in-state opponent this year (Why don't they play Navy?)
Massachusetts - Boston College does not play an in-state opponent this year.
Michigan - Michigan and Michigan State (conference)
Minnesota - Minnesota does not play an in-state opponent this year.
Mississippi - Ole Miss and Missippi State (conference)
Missouri - If you call this a rivalry, Missouri did open the season with FCS SEMO
Montana - Montana and Montana State (conference)
Nebraska - Nebraska does not play an in-state opponent this year.
Nevada - Nevada and UNLV (conference)
New Hampshire - New Hampshire does not play an in-state opponent this year
New Jersey - Rutgers does not play an in-state opponent this year
New Mexico - New Mexico and New Mexico State (conference)
New York - Buffalo opened the season with FCS Albany
North Carolina - Duke, UNC, NC State (conference)
North Dakota - North Dakota and North Dakota State (conference)
Ohio - Ohio State does not play an in-state opponent this year (why don't they play Ohio or Miami?)
Oklahoma - Oklahoma and Oklahoma State (conference)
Oregon - Oregon and Oregon State (conference)
Pennsylvania - Penn State and Temple (they've played forever and Temple got their first win in 54 years this year - closest thing I could find to an Arkansas-ASU situation)
Rhode Island - Rhode Island and Brown (both FCS)
South Carolina - South Carolina and Clemson (both power 5)
South Dakota - South Dakota and South Dakota State (conference)
Texas - several in Big 12 (conference)
Utah - Utah, BYU, and Utah State all play a round robin every year
Vermont - Vermont does not play an in-state opponent this year
Virginia - Virginia and Virginia Tech (conference)
Washington - Washington and Washington State (conference)
West Virginia - Neither West Virginia nor Marshall play an in-state opponent this year
Wisconsin - Wisconsin does not play an in-state opponent this year
Wyoming - Wyoming does not play an in-state opponent this year
The only two such games where a power 5 team plays an in-state non-power 5 team are Penn State-Temple and Colorado-Colorado State. Both of these games have a long history which is something Arkansas and Arkansas State don't have. Now what's your argument?
I guess my only thought is this...
Why, if you're Arkansas, do you schedule opponents like ULM, Tennessee Tech, Missouri State, Jacksonville State, Samford, and Nichols State every year yet refuse to play an in-state school that I think we could all agree on would be a better game?
If they were playing a non conference schedule every year like the one they have this season I would better understand why they wouldn't move down some in competition and play ASU.
And yes I understand that they play in the SEC and want a "cupcake" on the schedule. No one can deny that Arkansas' conference schedule is brutal.
Quote from: 12th Man CHS on September 17, 2015, 09:46:19 am
ASU is still little brother right now. I hope y'all grow your program, but for now it's just simply not on the same level as Arkansas. There's no benefit in Arkansas playing ASU, so since we refused then ASU tries to get the parents to make us play you
There's no benefit in UAF playing most of their games - El Paso, Toledo, Monroe, Alabama, Auburn, LSU. Most teams they play are not on their level. haha
In the event that we lose to teams like Toledo or ULM, they don't get any direct bragging rights like ASU would. How would it benefit our recruiting if they could point at games where they beat us? That might help them catch up on in-state recruiting, and Arkansas HAS to get in-state recruits to have a chance to compete in the SEC
And since when has ASU asked the "parents" to play you? Don't make something up when you don't have anything else to turn to.
Also, LSU has played ULM, ULL, and La Tech in the past. Pretty sure Bama and Auburn have played UAB and South Al too. Kentucky also plays Western Kentucky.
I might go to an ASU and an UAF game this year. What does it cost to go to these games?
Quote from: 12th Man CHS on September 17, 2015, 07:49:26 am
Things like this are why some Arkansas fans have grown to dislike ASU
I really don't care if Arkansas fans like or dislike me and Arkansas State. There are plenty of reasons why some A-State fans dislike the Razorbacks and there are some legitimate reasons too, but I doubt you or many other Arkansas fans care about that. No one has to like anyone and there are no rules that state that just because you're from Arkansas that you have to cheer for Arkansas or Arkansas State for that matter.
As for your list. There are several things you have left out. Michigan State traveled to Western Michigan this year. Michigan has played Eastern Michigan in years past along with other Michigan schools. LSU has played ULL and ULM in years past. Texas has played Rice and other smaller Texas schools. Ohio State has played Akron, Kent State, and Ohio in years past. I'd go on, but I think you get the point. Yes alot of those teams have a natural or conference rival, but many of them still play smaller in-state schools.
As for Arkansas State and Arkansas. I'd like for the teams to play, but I don't put as much effort in it as I used to. If it happens one day, great, if not, we've proven we can build a program on our own.
Who does ASU have this week?
In Jonesboro or Springfield? Didn't They put a guy in the pros this year?
A-State should absolutely win this weekend
Quote from: 12th Man CHS on September 17, 2015, 01:20:44 pm
In the event that we lose to teams like Toledo or ULM, they don't get any direct bragging rights like ASU would. How would it benefit our recruiting if they could point at games where they beat us? That might help them catch up on in-state recruiting, and Arkansas HAS to get in-state recruits to have a chance to compete in the SEC
That's Arkansas problem the in state recruits don't stack up with in state recruits with lsu, Alabama, a&m and the rest of the southern states so Arkansas has to steal players from other states and that is a long shot to me this is why Arkansas struggles with QUALITY depth.
Exactly, so why should we jeopardize our chances of losing even one player to ASU?
Quote from: Moonshiner on September 18, 2015, 12:54:41 pm
In Jonesboro or Springfield? Didn't They put a guy in the pros this year?
Jonesboro. Missouri State is FCS and there is rarely, and by that I mean almost never, any time a FBS school like Arkansas State will travel to a FCS school.
Missouri State has had a good program recently and has a handful of Arkansas kids on the roster, including a couple or maybe three from Camden Fairview. I think they are going to struggle a bit, they have a new head coach who was Missouri's defensive coordinator for 14 years I think. Knighten isn't playing for us so it's our backup QB James Tabary. Will be interesting to see how he does and we lost two defensive starters for the year in last week's game. We should win this game, but there is some cause for concern.
Quote from: 12th Man CHS on September 17, 2015, 10:55:20 am
Delaware - Delaware and Delaware State (conference)
Incorrect. The Blue Hens are in the CAA, and the Hornets are in the MEAC. They finally started playing each other just a few years ago, they call it the Route One Rivalry.
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Louisiana - LSU does not play an in-state D1 opponent this year (Why aren't they playing Louisiana Tech, ULL, or ULM?) ULL and ULM play, though, so I guess that counts for the sake of that post.
They play in-state schools most years. Last year they had ULM, and also in the past they've played ULL, Northwestern State, Tech, Tulane (for a traveling trophy, unless I'm mistaken), etc.
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New Mexico - New Mexico and New Mexico State (conference)
Also incorrect. The Lobos are in the Mountain West, while NMSU is in the Sun Belt, although I believe they were conference opponents at one time.
Quote from: 12th Man CHS on September 17, 2015, 10:55:20 am
North Dakota - North Dakota and North Dakota State (conference)
Again incorrect. UND is in the Big Sky, while NDSU is in the Missouri Valley.
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Ohio - Ohio State does not play an in-state opponent this year (why don't they play Ohio or Miami?)
This actually surprises me a little, as they normally do play at least one in-state opponent, similar to LSU. Last year they had Cincy, 2012 they had Miami-OH, 2011 they had both Toledo and Akron, 2010 they had the Ohio Bobcats... You get the idea. They normally rotate them all, just not this year or 2013.
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Vermont - Vermont does not play an in-state opponent this year
They also haven't had a football team since before I was born.
Quote from: 12th Man CHS on September 17, 2015, 10:55:20 am
The only two such games where a power 5 team plays an in-state non-power 5 team are Penn State-Temple and Colorado-Colorado State. Both of these games have a long history which is something Arkansas and Arkansas State don't have. Now what's your argument?
That long history didn't exist the first time they played, did it? Our history would exist if they had played before now, doesn't history have to start somewhere? Again, every other state where it is applicable does this. If we could join the 20th century sometime soon, that would be great. If not, well, at least we're getting some good upcoming home games...
Wow!!! Love the win over MS tonight!
Good job team!!
Quote from: 12th Man CHS on September 17, 2015, 01:20:44 pm
In the event that we lose to teams like Toledo or ULM, they don't get any direct bragging rights like ASU would. How would it benefit our recruiting if they could point at games where they beat us? That might help them catch up on in-state recruiting, and Arkansas HAS to get in-state recruits to have a chance to compete in the SEC
You should go south of little rock sometime if you think losing to any Louisiana schook has no affect on arkansas....
:D