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Jerry Perry going back to Mayflower

Started by arkhoops94, January 13, 2015, 04:59:20 pm

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arkhoops94

I heard that Jerry Perry will now be attending Mayflower instead of Southwest Christian Academy.

BigMan15


jr17

I heard the rumor as well today. It is VERY likely. Possibly back in school tomorrow.

jr17


jr17

But like I said, at this point, just a rumor. I'll try and report for sure if I can find out tomorrow

-Painted Fan-

Would he be eligible this late in the season?

jr17

Swc is not AAA afiliated. So if he lives in the district, I'm pretty sure he could play right away.

BigMan15

Just read it on his instagram...that will change some things

soldier

Quote from: jr17 on January 13, 2015, 06:37:43 pm
Swc is not AAA afiliated. So if he lives in the district, I'm pretty sure he could play right away.

So if everyone that has practiced hard and did the things that they needed to do, should they just sit by and let a kid come in and take a spot, what kind of message is that sending?  Interesting.


WildcatGrandpa13

Seems a little off that he would just come right back

soldier


Moonshiner

I might be wrong, but this is a transfer from a non member school to a member school.  Not a home school.  He might have to sit.  But I could be wrong

jr17

Well I'm not 100% on the playing right away thing. This is just what I've been told. And soldier I agree, but there's still half a season left, he can earn his playing time back. We will see what happens.

3ADude

Soldier, The Mayflower coach allowed a player to throw his jersey down during a game and quit leaving the gym and then allowed him back on the team and is playing again after showing up his coaches and teammates.  I say this to say what surprises you about anything with that program

smallybells

The Mayflower player did more than just throwing his jersey down. I also agree with Soldier, if I were on that squad I wouldn't be too receiving to the idea.

jr17

If I'm not mistaken, the player that stormed out, wrote a letter of apology and served a two week suspension, on top of plenty.of punishment I'm sure. No that wasn't a very smart idea, but it didn't just go without consequence.

3ADude

So does that mean you can do whatever you want as long as you apologize and then serve a suspension over the Christmas break?  Total lack of respect for coach and teammates. 

TheGovernor


cdelaney

Quote from: arkhoops94 on January 13, 2015, 04:59:20 pm
I heard that Jerry Perry will now be attending Mayflower instead of Southwest Christian Academy.
So Arkhoops do you know what was going on at SWC to make him want to leave? Playing time?

smallybells

Quote from: 3ADude on January 14, 2015, 07:41:53 am
So does that mean you can do whatever you want as long as you apologize and then serve a suspension over the Christmas break?  Total lack of respect for coach and teammates.

Not to mention the refs and the general public in the stands. I am going to go out on a limb and say if this would have been a 2nd stringer or a bench rider they would no longer even be on the team, and in a lot of places wouldn't be regardless.

3cats

Quote from: Moonshiner on January 13, 2015, 11:32:26 pm
I might be wrong, but this is a transfer from a non member school to a member school.  Not a home school.  He might have to sit.  But I could be wrong
You can transfer from a private school and be eligible immediately

AR hardball fan

Quote from: jr17 on January 14, 2015, 07:32:49 am
If I'm not mistaken, the player that stormed out, wrote a letter of apology and served a two week suspension, on top of plenty.of punishment I'm sure. No that wasn't a very smart idea, but it didn't just go without consequence.
Hope it was a long letter considering how many times this player or people involved with him have thrown a fit. Hard to blame the kid though when you look at the role models. As too Perry coming back, I am sure he won't start the first game back but should earn his spot back after a few games. Kid made a poor decision and listened maybe to the wrong people, no reason he shouldn't be allowed to play if the rules say he can.

bdog32

Is southwest Christian a private or a prep school. And does the aaa consider those one and the same.  I personally do not think it should matter   all should be governed under the same rules. He has played at another school should have to sit 365 like a kid from a public school would ha e to.  The aaa needs to treat everyone the same

arkhoops94

Quote from: cdelaney on January 14, 2015, 08:24:02 am
Quote from: arkhoops94 on January 13, 2015, 04:59:20 pm
I heard that Jerry Perry will now be attending Mayflower instead of Southwest Christian Academy.
So Arkhoops do you know what was going on at SWC to make him want to leave? Playing time?
I'm not sure. I thought Jerry was having a great time at SCA, he was great friends with Shawn Williams and Tyrik Dixon. My guess would be that it had something to do with the staff and coaches? Jerry got plenty of playing time. He did mention he is glad to be back to where he is welcome and loved. This will definitely shake some things up in the 3a, he averaged 25+ for mayflower last year.

cdelaney

Quote from: bdog32 on January 14, 2015, 11:11:06 am
Is southwest Christian a private or a prep school. And does the aaa consider those one and the same.  I personally do not think it should matter   all should be governed under the same rules. He has played at another school should have to sit 365 like a kid from a public school would ha e to.  The aaa needs to treat everyone the same
I think it is different for a "non-member" school. It is a private school but not part of AAA. It does seem to be a loophole in the rule, as I know if he had played at another private school that was a AAA member he would have to sit the 365. But I have to believe that he and his family has checked that out or he wouldn't be doing this, since this is I believe his last year to be eligible to play  HS basketball.
If he is eligible by current rules, more power to him and Mayflower; the coach will have to handly whatever impact there is on team chemistry, etc. But I imagine the rules will be revised to close this exception in the future.

cdelaney

Quote from: arkhoops94 on January 14, 2015, 11:41:59 am
Quote from: cdelaney on January 14, 2015, 08:24:02 am
Quote from: arkhoops94 on January 13, 2015, 04:59:20 pm
I heard that Jerry Perry will now be attending Mayflower instead of Southwest Christian Academy.
So Arkhoops do you know what was going on at SWC to make him want to leave? Playing time?
I'm not sure. I thought Jerry was having a great time at SCA, he was great friends with Shawn Williams and Tyrik Dixon. My guess would be that it had something to do with the staff and coaches? Jerry got plenty of playing time. He did mention he is glad to be back to where he is welcome and loved. This will definitely shake some things up in the 3a, he averaged 25+ for mayflower last year.
Thanks for the info. I saw him watching the game vs ECS at Mayflower the other night, but I just assumed it was out of general interest, not that he was considering the move.
As I have posted on FF many times, I am not a fan of SCA or their entire concept of a prep school/basketball factory that takes kids away from their regular HS. I am sorry he went there in the first place, and I hope for his sake he gets to play for Mayflower this year (although I expect the rule to be changed so this doesn't happen again). He will make them a much better team if the coach can get him blended in with the other kids who are there.

METFAN44

AR Hardballfan, do you know the role models personally? It seems kind of cheap to me for you to bring that up. If you do know them, then you should be aware of what kind of program they run at Mayflower. What other program in the state has a head coach that has been employed for THIRTY TWO years and has been to only  THREE STATE TOURNAMENTS......just so i'm clear, not 3 State Championship games, but THREE STATE TOURNAMENTS! Granted, he should reach the TOURNAMENT again this year....especially with the addition of J.P., but after this season it will be back to the same old mediocre expectations that are apparently status quo at the flower. In addition the role model throwing the "fits" spent his time, money and knowledge of the game to teach these players who are seniors how to play at a high level.

smallybells

January 14, 2015, 07:07:45 pm #27 Last Edit: January 14, 2015, 07:35:35 pm by smallybells
Does that include flipping off the refs and crowd? Being escorted out? I don't have a dog in this fight but that is inexcusable behavior. I'm not saying it was the coaching staffs fault but I will still say in most places the consequences would have been much more than a brief hiatus from the team, cut and dried.

Eagle20

The transfer rule reads that an athlete transferring from a non-member school to a member school where the athlete resides  that the athlete must be back in school for one day to be eligible.  Pretty ridiculous rule.  You will have kids moving to play at non-member schools knowing that if it doesn't work out they can move back and be immediately eligible.  That rule has to change!

AR hardball fan

Quote from: METFAN44 on January 14, 2015, 06:09:14 pm
AR Hardballfan, do you know the role models personally? It seems kind of cheap to me for you to bring that up. If you do know them, then you should be aware of what kind of program they run at Mayflower. What other program in the state has a head coach that has been employed for THIRTY TWO years and has been to only  THREE STATE TOURNAMENTS......just so i'm clear, not 3 State Championship games, but THREE STATE TOURNAMENTS! Granted, he should reach the TOURNAMENT again this year....especially with the addition of J.P., but after this season it will be back to the same old mediocre expectations that are apparently status quo at the flower. In addition the role model throwing the "fits" spent his time, money and knowledge of the game to teach these players who are seniors how to play at a high level.
I am not talking about the coach. Role models can be parents, friends of parents, really any adult the kid is around.

DogsWin7

Quote from: METFAN44 on January 14, 2015, 06:09:14 pm
AR Hardballfan, do you know the role models personally? It seems kind of cheap to me for you to bring that up. If you do know them, then you should be aware of what kind of program they run at Mayflower. What other program in the state has a head coach that has been employed for THIRTY TWO years and has been to only  THREE STATE TOURNAMENTS......just so i'm clear, not 3 State Championship games, but THREE STATE TOURNAMENTS! Granted, he should reach the TOURNAMENT again this year....especially with the addition of J.P., but after this season it will be back to the same old mediocre expectations that are apparently status quo at the flower. In addition the role model throwing the "fits" spent his time, money and knowledge of the game to teach these players who are seniors how to play at a high level.
Welcome to Fearless :)   

smallybells

The "role model" had nothing to do with the coaching staff.

METFAN44

Smallybells, are you implying that the kid did these things? If so, you are dead wrong!
Were you there? Again, do you know the "role models" personally?

DogsWin7

Doesn't seem appropriate to be discussing high school kids by name on here....in a negative manner just my opinion

smallybells

I'm not going to go into specifics, there is no point in it. There were plenty of people in that gym with decent eyesight I am sure.

smallybells


DogsWin7

Understood....just letting you know not too.

METFAN44

Never mentioned a name in a negative manner. Only mentioned JP in a positive way.

neds

I am sure he is happy to be back home. He is a good player.
Looking forward to seeing the team play at ECS in a couple weeks.

jr17

I feel like it's not our place to judge. The person you're Referring to is a great guy. It is also none of our business what goes on within a team. This is all stuff that happened in the 3rd game of the season. Let's get over it. Perry is back, stupid rule or not. Look forward to a better mayflower team. Go Eagles!!

METFAN44


soldier

Quote from: AR hardball fan on January 14, 2015, 09:11:59 am
Quote from: jr17 on January 14, 2015, 07:32:49 am
If I'm not mistaken, the player that stormed out, wrote a letter of apology and served a two week suspension, on top of plenty.of punishment I'm sure. No that wasn't a very smart idea, but it didn't just go without consequence.
Hope it was a long letter considering how many times this player or people involved with him have thrown a fit. Hard to blame the kid though when you look at the role models. As too Perry coming back, I am sure he won't start the first game back but should earn his spot back after a few games. Kid made a poor decision and listened maybe to the wrong people, no reason he shouldn't be allowed to play if the rules say he can.


Kids don't make poor decisions....that's the problem.

soldier

January 14, 2015, 09:44:14 pm #42 Last Edit: January 14, 2015, 09:50:05 pm by soldier
The basketball coach,  should have been relieved of his duties long ago.  He is the athletic director at Mayflower, and he can't even control his team,and he is never going to do anything differently.   It has been a pattern throughout his career at the school.   The administration is weak, to say the least, because no one has the (fill in the blank) to do anything about it. JS!
 

AR hardball fan

Quote from: jr17 on January 14, 2015, 08:59:36 pm
I feel like it's not our place to judge. The person you're Referring to is a great guy. It is also none of our business what goes on within a team. This is all stuff that happened in the 3rd game of the season. Let's get over it. Perry is back, stupid rule or not. Look forward to a better mayflower team. Go Eagles!!
Just so no one misunderstands me I am not referring the player being the root of the problem, his parents and others associated with them are the reason he acts out like he does. I have seen his father thrown out of a gym more than once. Anyone at any Mayflower game can clearly see that the kid's dad has no respect for the coach or the other players on the team.
Perry coming back to Mayflower will make them a much better team still probably not good enought to beat ECS but a dangerous team to face in the State tournament.

METFAN44

You can blame whomever you want! Besides, your opinion doesn't matter much. The kid did what he did, the dad did what he did and guess what? He's still playing! As far as the dad not respecting the other players on the team, he coached 4 of the 5 starters! The lack of respect to the coaches and administration is well deserved!

smallybells


3ADude

So Metfan do you condone the action of the parent and the player?  And I agree that the problem is with the coach and administration.  Neither should be allowed in the gym or on the team after their actions. As far as Perry goes, he is a good kid and player and I wish him the best. 

DogsWin7


AR hardball fan

Quote from: METFAN44 on January 15, 2015, 07:57:11 am
You can blame whomever you want! Besides, your opinion doesn't matter much. The kid did what he did, the dad did what he did and guess what? He's still playing! As far as the dad not respecting the other players on the team, he coached 4 of the 5 starters! The lack of respect to the coaches and administration is well deserved!
He coached 3 kids that have started at some point. One of those 3 hasn't started lately.

neds


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