New season, new thread.
We're only 17 days away from the Red Sox and A's opening the season with a 2 game series in Japan. Don't know about the rest of you, but my excitement is building by the day. What are your thoughts on the upcoming season? Let's get some good discussion going here. Keep all MLB talk, predictions, updates, etc in this thread throughout the season.
My predictions:
AL East
1. Red Sox
2. Yankees
3. Blue Jays
4. Rays
5. Orioles
AL Central
1. Tigers
2. Indians
3. White Sox
4. Twins
5. Royals
AL West
1. Angels
2. Mariners
3. Rangers
4. A's
AL Wild Card
Yankees
NL East
1. Mets
2. Braves
3. Phillies
4. Nationals
5. Marlins
NL Central
1. Cubs
2. Brewers
3. Cardinals
4. Astros
5. Reds
6. Pirates
NL West
1. D-backs
2. Dodgers
3. Rockies
4. Padres
5. Giants
NL Wild Card
Braves
ALDS
Tigers over Yankees
Red Sox over Angels
NLDS
D-backs over Braves
Mets over Cubs
ALCS
Tigers over Red Sox
NLCS
D-backs over Mets
World Series
Tigers over D-backs
AL East
1. Red Sox
2. Yankees
3. Blue Jays
4. Rays
5. Orioles
AL Central
1. Tigers
2. Indians
3. White Sox
4. Twins
5. Royals
AL West
1. Angels
2. Mariners
3. Rangers
4. A's
AL Wild Card
Indians
NL East
1. Mets
2. Braves
3. Phillies
4. Nationals
5. Marlins
NL Central
1. Cubs
2. Brewers
3. Cardinals
4. Astros
5. Reds
6. Pirates
NL West
1. D-backs
2. Rockies
3. Dodgers
4. Padres
5. Giants
NL Wild Card
Braves
ALDS
Tigers advance past Angels
Red Sox advance past Indians
NLDS
D-backs over Braves
Mets over Cubs
ALCS
Tigers over Red Sox
NLCS
Mets over D-backs
World Series
Tigers over Mets
I think the AL Central will be the toughest in the league this year.
NL Central again gets the honors for crappiest division.
I'm just hoping the Mariners do good and I think they will as long as Felix doesn't get hurt and Bedard isn't a one season wonder. Rotation looks good, bullpen will be fine, but losing Sherrill hurts. I'm a little concerned about the offense. I think Sexson will break out this year though. It's been said that he has been working harder than ever to get back to his old form. If he comes through and Wilkerson or someone else steps up in RF, we'll be pretty dang good.
Quote from: RHS on March 09, 2008, 01:08:07 amALDS
Tigers advance past Indians (is that possible?)
No, it's not. Two teams from the same division can't face each other in the first round of the playoffs, regardless of records.
I agree with you about the AL Central being the toughest division. I think the White Sox are really going to surprise some people with the additions of Cabrera and Swisher. And yes, the NL Central will once again be "bringing up the rear".
Brewers over the Cards? Are you guys insane?
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on March 09, 2008, 01:25:06 am
Quote from: RHS on March 09, 2008, 01:08:07 amALDS
Tigers advance past Indians (is that possible?)
No, it's not. Two teams from the same division can't face each other in the first round of the playoffs, regardless of records.
I agree with you about the AL Central being the toughest division. I think the White Sox are really going to surprise some people with the additions of Cabrera and Swisher. And yes, the NL Central will once again be "bringing up the rear".
There may be a rear involved, but I can see the Brewers playing for the World Series. And if the Cards make about 18 different trades, they'll have a shot. :)
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on March 09, 2008, 01:25:06 amNo, it's not. Two teams from the same division can't face each other in the first round of the playoffs, regardless of records.
Didn't think so. Fixed it now.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on March 09, 2008, 12:39:07 am
New season, new thread.
We're only 17 days away from the Red Sox and A's opening the season with a 2 game series in Japan. Don't know about the rest of you, but my excitement is building by the day. What are your thoughts on the upcoming season? Let's get some good discussion going here. Keep all MLB talk, predictions, updates, etc in this thread throughout the season.
My predictions:
AL East
1. Red Sox
2. Yankees
3. Blue Jays
4. Rays
5. Orioles
AL Central
1. Tigers
2. Indians
3. White Sox
4. Twins
5. Royals
AL West
1. Angels
2. Mariners
3. Rangers
4. A's
AL Wild Card
Yankees
NL East
1. Mets
2. Braves
3. Phillies
4. Nationals
5. Marlins
NL Central
1. Cubs
2. Brewers
3. Cardinals
4. Astros
5. Reds
6. Pirates
NL West
1. D-backs
2. Dodgers
3. Rockies
4. Padres
5. Giants
NL Wild Card
Braves
ALDS
Tigers over Yankees
Red Sox over Angels
NLDS
D-backs over Braves
Mets over Cubs
ALCS
Tigers over Red Sox
NLCS
D-backs over Mets
World Series
D-backs over Tigers
Fixed it
I think y'all have the Diamondbacks too high. I just don't think they're going to be that good.
Quote from: WBF † on March 09, 2008, 05:02:28 pm
I think y'all have the Diamondbacks too high. I just don't think they're going to be that good.
Have you seen their starting rotation?
Quote from: WBF † on March 09, 2008, 05:02:28 pmI think y'all have the Diamondbacks too high. I just don't think they're going to be that good.
Anyone who has Brandon Webb and Danny Haren at the top of the rotation is going to be good. How good remains to be seen, but I like their chances. They went to the NLCS last year and improved themselves over the offseason.
No love for the Twins...
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 09, 2008, 06:20:20 am
Brewers over the Cards? Are you guys insane?
I hate to admit it J-Lo, but we are going to suck this year.
In other news, Tampa Bay lefty David Price touched 99 in his pro debut. He hit the first guy, and then struck out the side, against the Yankees, in his lone inning of work.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on March 09, 2008, 09:52:44 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 09, 2008, 06:20:20 am
Brewers over the Cards? Are you guys insane?
I hate to admit it J-Lo, but we are going to suck this year.
We really need a sarcasm button.
This is year two of the five year grace period, so I won't get too upset if the Cards suck this year............ Who am I kidding, I'll complain all season!
If Hampton can come back and stay healthy, the Braves could have a dominate pitching staff. I'm excited just to see Glavine back in Atlanta.
Quote from: Footballer on March 09, 2008, 11:47:59 pm
If Hampton can come back and stay healthy
You're asking for a lot.
Quote from: RHS on March 10, 2008, 12:45:11 am<br />Quote from: Footballer on March 09, 2008, 11:47:59 pm<br />If Hampton can come back and stay healthy
<br /><br />You're asking for a lot.<br />
Very true. He left early with a groin problem the other day. A Smoltz, Hudson, and Glavine combination is still quite good though.
Quote from: Footballer on March 10, 2008, 01:05:42 am
Quote from: RHS on March 10, 2008, 12:45:11 am<br />Quote from: Footballer on March 09, 2008, 11:47:59 pm<br />If Hampton can come back and stay healthy
<br /><br />You're asking for a lot.<br />
Very true. He left early with a groin problem the other day. A Smoltz, Hudson, and Glavine combination is still quite good though.
They're my team, but not sure the firepower will be there. Still need another bat to secure Tex Mex IMO.
Quote from: WBF † on March 10, 2008, 01:28:44 am<br />Quote from: Footballer on March 10, 2008, 01:05:42 am<br />Quote from: RHS on March 10, 2008, 12:45:11 am<br />Quote from: Footballer on March 09, 2008, 11:47:59 pm<br />If Hampton can come back and stay healthy
<br /><br />You're asking for a lot.<br />
<br /><br />Very true. He left early with a groin problem the other day. A Smoltz, Hudson, and Glavine combination is still quite good though.<br />
<br /><br />They're my team, but not sure the firepower will be there. Still need another bat to secure Tex Mex IMO.<br />
I've got a good feeling about this group. I think Kotsay's going to fit in great. Everyone in the lineup has proven themselves to be consistent big league players before.
Quote from: WBF † on March 10, 2008, 01:28:44 amThey're my team, but not sure the firepower will be there. Still need another bat to secure Tex Mex IMO.
Atlanta is going to have a GOOD lineup. I'd be more worried about pitching than hitting if I was you.
Johnson/Kotsay/Chipper/Teixeira/McCann/Francoer/Escobar. I'd take that any day of the week.
Escobar isn't proven yet. But he's my sleeper on every Fantasy Team. He'll be a breakout this year, mark my post/word. Save it, take a picture, memorize it, whatever.
(I'm worried about the pen!)
This isn't really about baseball, but it was during a baseball segment.
How ignorant can ESPN be? During Sportscenter they were talking about Randy Johnson's performance. Near the bottom of the screen it showed his stats and where they were from. It said Tucson, AR. I didn't realize Arkansas had Arizona's spring training.
AL East
1. Red Sox
2. Yankees
3. Blue Jays
4. Devil Rays
5. Orioles
AL Central
1. Indians
2. Tigers
3. Twins
4. White Sox
5. Royals
AL West
1. Angels
2. Mariners
3. A's
4. Rangers
NL East
1. Mets
2. Braves
3. Phillies
4. Nationals
5. Marlins
NL Central
1. Cubs
2. Brewers
3. Astros
4. Cardinals
5. Reds
6. Pirates
NL West
1. Dodgers
2. Diamondbacks
3. Padres
4. Rockies
5. Giants
NL Wild Card - Diamondbacks
AL Wild Card - Tigers
Red Sox over Tigers
Indians over Angels
Diamondbacks upset Mets
Cubs over Dodgers
Indians over Red Sox
Cubs over Diamondbacks
Cubs over Indians :)
Best division - AL Central
Worst division - NL East (Marlins and Nats both dreadful, Braves mediocre, Phils can hit a ton but no pitching).
So this is finally the year, huh Ryan? How fitting if it did happen though, considering it would be the 100th anniversary.
Quote from: SMC on March 10, 2008, 07:19:37 pm
AL East
1. Red Sox
2. Yankees
3. Blue Jays
4. Devil Rays
5. Orioles
AL Central
1. Indians
2. Tigers
3. Twins
4. White Sox
5. Royals
AL West
1. Angels
2. Mariners
3. A's
4. Rangers
NL East
1. Mets
2. Braves
3. Phillies
4. Nationals
5. Marlins
NL Central
1. Cubs
2. Brewers
3. Astros
4. Cardinals
5. Reds
6. Pirates
NL West
1. Dodgers
2. Diamondbacks
3. Padres
4. Rockies
5. Giants
NL Wild Card - Diamondbacks
AL Wild Card - Tigers
Red Sox over Tigers
Indians over Angels
Diamondbacks upset Mets
Cubs over Dodgers
Indians over Red Sox
Cubs over Diamondbacks
Cubs over Indians :)
Best division - AL Central
Worst division - NL East (Marlins and Nats both dreadful, Braves mediocre, Phils can hit a ton but no pitching).
Don't agree with NL East being worst division. That's crazy.
Stay classy Yankee$
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=280312130
at least the slide was clean (sarcasm)
(http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0312/mlb_a_duncan_slide_200.jpg)
^ You failed to mention the collision at homeplate at an earlier game in Spring Training. It's a fairly well known, unwritten rule that you don't take out the catcher in a Spring Training game. They make a dirty play, you retaliate, it's how the game's played.
Quote from: Jarred on March 12, 2008, 10:30:18 pm
^ You failed to mention the collision at homeplate at an earlier game in Spring Training. It's a fairly well known, unwritten rule that you don't take out the catcher in a Spring Training game. They make a dirty play, you retaliate, it's how the game's played.
You have the uniforms on, people pay to see it, score is kept. I saw nothing wrong with the play at home. It was not dirty at all, just baseball. God forbid someone touch a yankee.
I can obviously see where both teams would be mad and what started the brawl. However, I don't agree with Shelley Duncan coming out in the papers and saying he's going to hurt somebody. Sure, you can retaliate, but don't say you plan on injuring another player. That's a little over the top. I loved the Johnny Gomes tackle though. Hilarious. That dude seems about half nuts anyway. Where's Kyle Farnsworth when you need him? Didn't see him spear anybody this time.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 12, 2008, 10:40:01 pm
Quote from: Jarred on March 12, 2008, 10:30:18 pm
^ You failed to mention the collision at homeplate at an earlier game in Spring Training. It's a fairly well known, unwritten rule that you don't take out the catcher in a Spring Training game. They make a dirty play, you retaliate, it's how the game's played.
You have the uniforms on, people pay to see it, score is kept. I saw nothing wrong with the play at home. It was not dirty at all, just baseball. God forbid someone touch a yankee.
Regular season, when you're fighting for a playoff spot, go ahead, take out the catcher. But in an exhibition game...that's a little over the top. The catcher's not out for 10-12 weeks with a broken wrist.
Quote from: Jarred on March 12, 2008, 10:30:18 pm
^ You failed to mention the collision at homeplate at an earlier game in Spring Training. It's a fairly well known, unwritten rule that you don't take out the catcher in a Spring Training game. They make a dirty play, you retaliate, it's how the game's played.
If his wrist wasn't broke guarantee this wouldn't even be happening. Yankees get what they deserve.
Quote from: Jarred on March 13, 2008, 12:27:46 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 12, 2008, 10:40:01 pm
Quote from: Jarred on March 12, 2008, 10:30:18 pm
^ You failed to mention the collision at homeplate at an earlier game in Spring Training. It's a fairly well known, unwritten rule that you don't take out the catcher in a Spring Training game. They make a dirty play, you retaliate, it's how the game's played.
You have the uniforms on, people pay to see it, score is kept. I saw nothing wrong with the play at home. It was not dirty at all, just baseball. God forbid someone touch a yankee.
Regular season, when you're fighting for a playoff spot, go ahead, take out the catcher. But in an exhibition game...that's a little over the top. The catcher's not out for 10-12 weeks with a broken wrist.
You said it yourself before, you play to WIN. Spring training, practice, regular season game, or Game 7 of the World Series, if the catcher is in my way, I will attempt to run him over, period.
Anyone have a link to this video?
Quote from: WBF † on March 13, 2008, 12:46:12 am
Quote from: Jarred on March 12, 2008, 10:30:18 pm
^ You failed to mention the collision at homeplate at an earlier game in Spring Training. It's a fairly well known, unwritten rule that you don't take out the catcher in a Spring Training game. They make a dirty play, you retaliate, it's how the game's played.
If his wrist wasn't broke guarantee this wouldn't even be happening. Yankees get what they deserve.
Quote from: Jarred on March 13, 2008, 12:27:46 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 12, 2008, 10:40:01 pm
Quote from: Jarred on March 12, 2008, 10:30:18 pm
^ You failed to mention the collision at homeplate at an earlier game in Spring Training. It's a fairly well known, unwritten rule that you don't take out the catcher in a Spring Training game. They make a dirty play, you retaliate, it's how the game's played.
You have the uniforms on, people pay to see it, score is kept. I saw nothing wrong with the play at home. It was not dirty at all, just baseball. God forbid someone touch a yankee.
Regular season, when you're fighting for a playoff spot, go ahead, take out the catcher. But in an exhibition game...that's a little over the top. The catcher's not out for 10-12 weeks with a broken wrist.
You said it yourself before, you play to WIN. Spring training, practice, regular season game, or Game 7 of the World Series, if the catcher is in my way, I will attempt to run him over, period.
There are certain things you don't do...if you don't understand that, that's fine.
Quote from: Jarred on March 13, 2008, 01:29:10 am
Quote from: WBF † on March 13, 2008, 12:46:12 am
Quote from: Jarred on March 12, 2008, 10:30:18 pm
^ You failed to mention the collision at homeplate at an earlier game in Spring Training. It's a fairly well known, unwritten rule that you don't take out the catcher in a Spring Training game. They make a dirty play, you retaliate, it's how the game's played.
If his wrist wasn't broke guarantee this wouldn't even be happening. Yankees get what they deserve.
Quote from: Jarred on March 13, 2008, 12:27:46 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 12, 2008, 10:40:01 pm
Quote from: Jarred on March 12, 2008, 10:30:18 pm
^ You failed to mention the collision at homeplate at an earlier game in Spring Training. It's a fairly well known, unwritten rule that you don't take out the catcher in a Spring Training game. They make a dirty play, you retaliate, it's how the game's played.
You have the uniforms on, people pay to see it, score is kept. I saw nothing wrong with the play at home. It was not dirty at all, just baseball. God forbid someone touch a yankee.
Regular season, when you're fighting for a playoff spot, go ahead, take out the catcher. But in an exhibition game...that's a little over the top. The catcher's not out for 10-12 weeks with a broken wrist.
You said it yourself before, you play to WIN. Spring training, practice, regular season game, or Game 7 of the World Series, if the catcher is in my way, I will attempt to run him over, period.
There are certain things you don't do...if you don't understand that, that's fine.
If you don't understand that winning is everything in sports, I understand.
Quote from: Jarred on March 13, 2008, 12:27:46 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 12, 2008, 10:40:01 pm
Quote from: Jarred on March 12, 2008, 10:30:18 pm
^ You failed to mention the collision at homeplate at an earlier game in Spring Training. It's a fairly well known, unwritten rule that you don't take out the catcher in a Spring Training game. They make a dirty play, you retaliate, it's how the game's played.
You have the uniforms on, people pay to see it, score is kept. I saw nothing wrong with the play at home. It was not dirty at all, just baseball. God forbid someone touch a yankee.
Regular season, when you're fighting for a playoff spot, go ahead, take out the catcher. But in an exhibition game...that's a little over the top. The catcher's not out for 10-12 weeks with a broken wrist.
There is nothing wrong with it. I understand what your trying to say, but I don't see a problem with it. And I have been around baseball my entire life.
The collision at home gets into those "unwritten rules of baseball" that seem to shift ever so slightly with every instance. I didn't know about the play the day before at home before I saw that slide at 2nd, but it does change things. Taking the catcher out at home in spring training is bush league just like it was last year when A-Rod yelled while rounding 3rd.
It's like when the manager got hacked at the guy in San Diego breaking up a no hitter or perfect game with a bunt single in the 8th inning I think. I believe the manager of the team with the pitcher called it "chicken sh*t" but I looked at it as "They are down 2 runs and haven't done anything, why not try it?"
Quote from: WBF † on March 13, 2008, 01:29:52 am
Quote from: Jarred on March 13, 2008, 01:29:10 am
Quote from: WBF † on March 13, 2008, 12:46:12 am
Quote from: Jarred on March 12, 2008, 10:30:18 pm
^ You failed to mention the collision at homeplate at an earlier game in Spring Training. It's a fairly well known, unwritten rule that you don't take out the catcher in a Spring Training game. They make a dirty play, you retaliate, it's how the game's played.
If his wrist wasn't broke guarantee this wouldn't even be happening. Yankees get what they deserve.
Quote from: Jarred on March 13, 2008, 12:27:46 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 12, 2008, 10:40:01 pm
Quote from: Jarred on March 12, 2008, 10:30:18 pm
^ You failed to mention the collision at homeplate at an earlier game in Spring Training. It's a fairly well known, unwritten rule that you don't take out the catcher in a Spring Training game. They make a dirty play, you retaliate, it's how the game's played.
You have the uniforms on, people pay to see it, score is kept. I saw nothing wrong with the play at home. It was not dirty at all, just baseball. God forbid someone touch a yankee.
Regular season, when you're fighting for a playoff spot, go ahead, take out the catcher. But in an exhibition game...that's a little over the top. The catcher's not out for 10-12 weeks with a broken wrist.
You said it yourself before, you play to WIN. Spring training, practice, regular season game, or Game 7 of the World Series, if the catcher is in my way, I will attempt to run him over, period.
There are certain things you don't do...if you don't understand that, that's fine.
If you don't understand that winning is everything in sports, I understand.
Do they have a World Series for Spring Training? Spring Training is to get your vets a few ab's, some work in the field, and test out your prospects, get younger guys ab's against major league pitching. Half of the guys playing in those spring training games won't be on the big league club to start the season.
Which is why those guys have to bust their buts to show management what they got. You aint gonna get a roster spot pullin up at home.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 13, 2008, 02:53:51 am
Which is why those guys have to bust their buts to show management what they got. You aint gonna get a roster spot pullin up at home.
You don't have to pull up, but you don't have to barrel over a catcher either.
Quote from: Jarred on March 13, 2008, 02:52:13 am
Quote from: WBF † on March 13, 2008, 01:29:52 am
Quote from: Jarred on March 13, 2008, 01:29:10 am
Quote from: WBF † on March 13, 2008, 12:46:12 am
Quote from: Jarred on March 12, 2008, 10:30:18 pm
^ You failed to mention the collision at homeplate at an earlier game in Spring Training. It's a fairly well known, unwritten rule that you don't take out the catcher in a Spring Training game. They make a dirty play, you retaliate, it's how the game's played.
If his wrist wasn't broke guarantee this wouldn't even be happening. Yankees get what they deserve.
Quote from: Jarred on March 13, 2008, 12:27:46 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 12, 2008, 10:40:01 pm
Quote from: Jarred on March 12, 2008, 10:30:18 pm
^ You failed to mention the collision at homeplate at an earlier game in Spring Training. It's a fairly well known, unwritten rule that you don't take out the catcher in a Spring Training game. They make a dirty play, you retaliate, it's how the game's played.
You have the uniforms on, people pay to see it, score is kept. I saw nothing wrong with the play at home. It was not dirty at all, just baseball. God forbid someone touch a yankee.
Regular season, when you're fighting for a playoff spot, go ahead, take out the catcher. But in an exhibition game...that's a little over the top. The catcher's not out for 10-12 weeks with a broken wrist.
You said it yourself before, you play to WIN. Spring training, practice, regular season game, or Game 7 of the World Series, if the catcher is in my way, I will attempt to run him over, period.
There are certain things you don't do...if you don't understand that, that's fine.
If you don't understand that winning is everything in sports, I understand.
Do they have a World Series for Spring Training? Spring Training is to get your vets a few ab's, some work in the field, and test out your prospects, get younger guys ab's against major league pitching. Half of the guys playing in those spring training games won't be on the big league club to start the season.
Then why does this matter?
That catcher won't ever see PT anyways.
Quote from: Jarred on March 13, 2008, 03:00:03 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 13, 2008, 02:53:51 am
Which is why those guys have to bust their buts to show management what they got. You aint gonna get a roster spot pullin up at home.
You don't have to pull up, but you don't have to barrel over a catcher either.
Then what do you do? Slide and break your own leg? Jump over him? Fly around? It's either stand up or take 'em out on a play like that. A slide gets you nowhere.
Quote from: WBF † on March 13, 2008, 01:28:41 pm
Quote from: Jarred on March 13, 2008, 02:52:13 am
Quote from: WBF † on March 13, 2008, 01:29:52 am
Quote from: Jarred on March 13, 2008, 01:29:10 am
Quote from: WBF † on March 13, 2008, 12:46:12 am
Quote from: Jarred on March 12, 2008, 10:30:18 pm
^ You failed to mention the collision at homeplate at an earlier game in Spring Training. It's a fairly well known, unwritten rule that you don't take out the catcher in a Spring Training game. They make a dirty play, you retaliate, it's how the game's played.
If his wrist wasn't broke guarantee this wouldn't even be happening. Yankees get what they deserve.
Quote from: Jarred on March 13, 2008, 12:27:46 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 12, 2008, 10:40:01 pm
Quote from: Jarred on March 12, 2008, 10:30:18 pm
^ You failed to mention the collision at homeplate at an earlier game in Spring Training. It's a fairly well known, unwritten rule that you don't take out the catcher in a Spring Training game. They make a dirty play, you retaliate, it's how the game's played.
You have the uniforms on, people pay to see it, score is kept. I saw nothing wrong with the play at home. It was not dirty at all, just baseball. God forbid someone touch a yankee.
Regular season, when you're fighting for a playoff spot, go ahead, take out the catcher. But in an exhibition game...that's a little over the top. The catcher's not out for 10-12 weeks with a broken wrist.
You said it yourself before, you play to WIN. Spring training, practice, regular season game, or Game 7 of the World Series, if the catcher is in my way, I will attempt to run him over, period.
There are certain things you don't do...if you don't understand that, that's fine.
If you don't understand that winning is everything in sports, I understand.
Do they have a World Series for Spring Training? Spring Training is to get your vets a few ab's, some work in the field, and test out your prospects, get younger guys ab's against major league pitching. Half of the guys playing in those spring training games won't be on the big league club to start the season.
Then why does this matter?
That catcher won't ever see PT anyways.Quote from: Jarred on March 13, 2008, 03:00:03 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 13, 2008, 02:53:51 am
Which is why those guys have to bust their buts to show management what they got. You aint gonna get a roster spot pullin up at home.
You don't have to pull up, but you don't have to barrel over a catcher either.
Then what do you do? Slide and break your own leg? Jump over him? Fly around? It's either stand up or take 'em out on a play like that. A slide gets you nowhere.
You......just don't get it.
In other news, the Red Sox released Doug Mirabelli today. It definitely came as a surprise to me. While he is an automatic out at the plate, he was Wakefield's personal catcher for years. Hope Varitek can handle the knuckleball. He has been shaky in the past in trying to do so (see 2004 ALCS Game 5).
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on March 13, 2008, 02:13:18 pm
In other news, the Red Sox released Doug Mirabelli today. It definitely came as a surprise to me. While he is an automatic out at the plate, he was Wakefield's personal catcher for years. Hope Varitek can handle the knuckleball. He has been shaky in the past in trying to do so (see 2004 ALCS Game 5).
Maybe they're planning on getting rid of Wakefield.
Quote from: Jarred on March 13, 2008, 02:16:56 pmQuote from: msubulldogs21 on March 13, 2008, 02:13:18 pmIn other news, the Red Sox released Doug Mirabelli today. It definitely came as a surprise to me. While he is an automatic out at the plate, he was Wakefield's personal catcher for years. Hope Varitek can handle the knuckleball. He has been shaky in the past in trying to do so (see 2004 ALCS Game 5).
Maybe they're planning on getting rid of Wakefield.
Not this year. His option was picked up in the off-season. Plus, with Schilling out at least until after the All Star Break we need some rotation stability.
I haven't read really any of the thread, so I don't have a clue what anyone has said and or predicited.
And I am not going to give a break down of every team. I probably only know enough in depth info about half of the 30 teams to give indepth reports.
AMERICAN LEAGUE
AL East
Boston Red Sox - Beckett is going to miss his opening day start. Sox fans have to hope it isn't an injury that effects him in the long term with Schilling likely to miss the entire season. Dice-K proved that he could be a formidale pitcher in America as well, but it will be interesting to see how he fares this year as the #2 starter in the rotation with Schilling out. Youkilis had a coming out party in the playoffs last year and gives the Red Sox an even more intimidating lineup. I don't know if Lowell will have a reapeat of how he performed in 2007, but if he does than watch out because this team could repeat.
New York Yankees Once again, hitting won't be a problem for the Yanks this year. They have an almost completely revamped, and young pitching staff. How can youngsters in the pitching rotation, like Hughes and Kennedy perform? Are Wang and Pettite really that intimidating of a 1-2 punch? My gut is telling me no. Hoewever, their hitting will once again be what wins them games, and perhaps the division. As much as I hate them, they are still the Yankees and will be a World Series contender once again in 2008.
Toronto Blue Jays A solid 1-2 punch in their rotation in Halladay and Burnett. But after that they have, Dustin McGowan, Shaun Marcum, and Jesse Litch. If you hav the same befuddled look on your face as I did after reading those three names, than you have every right to be. 2006 World Series MVP, David Eckstein is in the lineup at SS, and the Blue Jays actually have a respectable lineup. IMHO, the best player no one gives credit to is Alex Rios. Scott Rolen and Troy Glaus flip-flopped teams, don't know if there is a major drop or incline in talent between the two, and I don't really see the trade dramatically helping either team, barring a break out season from Glaus or Rolen. Of course Vernon Wells will be anchoring the lineup and he is another great player that gets very little recognition. While this team is good, they are still several pieces away from being able to compete with the Yanks and Sox.
Tampa Bay Rays - They've actually got some good young pitchers in Kazmir, Edwin Santana, Scott Shields, and Matt Garza. Once again they have a very speedy and potentially dagnerous, young lineup, but none of it is enough to keep the Rays from being one of the running jokes in the league.
Baltimore Orioles - They lost their two best players. How much do you really expect from them. They might get lucky and finish ahead of the Rays, but neither team is going to be anything special.
AL Central
Detroit Tigers - Their offseason acquisitions instantly made them a World Series contender. When the weakest bat in your lineup is probably Edgar Renteria or Carlos Guillen, then you don't have much to worry about. I mean this lineup even looks like the Yankees lineup on "roids". It is just sick. Add that to one of the deepest rotations in baseball, and you've got a ligit World Series contender in Detroit once again. As attractive as their offseason acquisitions look, I still always have a hard time picking a team to win it all in their first season after making blockbuster moves as the Tigers did.
Cleveland Indians - This pitching rotation is sick. Sabathia, Carmona, Byrd, and Westbrook? Ouch. If I was an opposing team I'd never really look forward to playing these guys. They were one game away from making theWorld Series a year ago and I don't really see them dropping off much, if any, in 2008. They've also got a very solid lineup anchored by Sizemore, Martinez and Hafner.
Chicago White Sox They had a very dissapointing 2007 campaign. I can't see Ozzie Guillen letting it happen again this year. If he does then we may see him lose his head. They did add Nick Swisher, and Orlando Hudson, to an already pretty respectable lineup. They also have a good enough pitching staff, where it isn't too much of a stretch to see them being able to compete for the AL Central crown.
Minnesota Twins Another team that let two of their best players go. How can you expect much from them? Fransisco Liriano is back, but will he be the same pitcher we saw two years ago? Hard to say, but if so, then the Twins have another Cy Young contender in their rotation. Other than that, this team has quite a few of question marks.
Kansas City Royals - They're the Royals. While the young talent is there and there is some potential in the rotation, expecting anything more than 65-70 wins out of this team is pretty unrealistic. Another season finishing at the bottom of the division and with one of the worst records in the league is in their future.
AL West
California Los Angeles Angles of Orange County South Los Angeles Angels - They added Tori Hunter and Garey Matthews Jr. to an already potent lineup. C.C. Sabathia got to fat and is now playing AAA ball for the Red Sox(although he may make an appearance in "The Show" sooner than expected.) Still yet their pitching is going to be very solid and in a four team division where two of the teams can not acheive anything better than mediocrity, they should win the division.
Seattle Mariners - They added perhaps the most underrated pitcher in baseball the past 3 years to their rotation. If Felix Hernandez can stay healthy, then that gives the Mariners one of the scariest 1-2 punches in baseball. The offense will still be suspect at times, especially playing in SAFECO. Still yet, they should be good enough to if not win the West, compete for the title.
Oakland A's - While I think Billy Beane has a great baseball mind, it still blows my mind how he lets his best players go almost every year after they have a breakout season for young prospects in return. Blanton and Harden are both solid starters, but after them, their rotation is one big question mark. Once again, playing in that park, their offense will be anemic.
Texas Rangers - May have plenty of offense, but once again no pitching, means losing more games than you win. I would have thought they would have figured things out by now and made some moves to bring in some pitching or at least tried to develop pitchers in their farm system.
NATIONAL LEAGUE
NL East
New York Mets - When a team adds the best pitcher in baseball to their roster in a National League that is starting to take the form of the East in the NBA, expectations will be high. Jose Reyes, David Wright, and even Carlos Beltran are all potential MVP candidates. I feel this team's success really hinges on what Pedro Martinez can do. If he stays healthy and can just at least be half of what he used to be, then there is no reason why this team shouldn't be the favorites to represent the NL in the World Series.
Atlanta Braves - I did see some saying in the thread that this lineup could be a question mark for this team. Are you kidding me? This team will have one of the 3 most dangerous lineups in the NL and one of the most dangerous in all of baseball. The question mark for this team will be their pitching staff. Glavine and Smoltz are getting older, what will they get out of Tim Hudson, and can Mike Hampton stay healthy? Right now it kind of seems to be up in the air about who their 5th starter will be, Chuck James, or Jair Jurrjens. Either way the 5th spot in the rotation will have a big question mark. If Hampton does get hurt, then Atlanta will be relegated to use both James and Jurrjen. Still yet, they have a very potent lineup and even if they don't contend for the division title, they should be in the hunt for the Wild Card all year long.
Philadelphia Phillies - This team scored more runs than every team other than the Yankees last year. They have two MVP's in Howard and Rollins and a very solid lineup to surround those guys. The question mark, once again, with this team will be their pitching staff. The pitchers don't have to be great because this team will score a lot of runs, but they need to be solid if they want to compete for the East title and a World Series. I think it is clear to say though, that the Mets, Braves, and Phillies are all the class of this division and it will be a 3 horse race most of the year.
Washington Nationals - They got a new ballpark, but not much else. Another dismal season in Washington looks unavoidable.
Florida Marlins - Another team that lost probably their two best players, and will more than likely be a AAA team disguised as a big league team. Nothing more than 65 wins should be expected from this team.
NL Central
Chicago Cubs - They are playing in the "JV" division of baseball, but have the best lineup and a solid pitching rotation. It won't take much more than 82-85 wins to win this division. They do have a potential Cy Young pitcher in Zambrano but after him there are quite a few question marks in their rotation.
Milwaukee Brewers
Houston Astros
St. Louis Cardinals
Cincinatti Reds
Pittsburgh Pirates
NL West
Los Angeles Dodgers
San Diego Padres
Colorado Rockies
Arizona Diamondbacks
San Fransico Giants
I didn't have time to give any kind of analysis or in depth breakdowns after the Cubs becasue I am doing this at work and we are closing in 10 minutes. If i have time I'll go back and finish up when I get home in the next night or two. With that said....
My World Series Prediction
Angels over Mets
Troy Hudson? I'm rolling.
(I don't wanna use the quote feature - but this is to Jarred)
You....don't get it. Winning is everything, from T-ball to World Series. I will almost guarantee that everyone on this board would truck the catcher before pulling up or sliding. But since we're not cool like you and playing upper-level ball, we're wrong, right?
Sorry, had a brain fart. I know it's Tim. I don't know why I put Troy. I know he plays or either played in the NBA and all but I wouldn't think I'd be dumb enough to get him and Tim's name mixed up. I did all of that at work, and I have to watch what kind of websites I get on(get your mind out of the gutters pervs)anything sports and/or message boards are frowned upon. So I was looking over my shoulder the whole time I did this because my boss would walk in the room every 20-25 minutes.
Quote from: WBF † on March 14, 2008, 12:10:36 am
Troy Hudson? I'm rolling.
(I don't wanna use the quote feature - but this is to Jarred)
You....don't get it. Winning is everything, from T-ball to World Series. I will almost guarantee that everyone on this board would truck the catcher before pulling up or sliding. But since we're not cool like you and playing upper-level ball, we're wrong, right?
Yeah, something like that. The purpose of spring training games is to get guys at bats against live pitching before the season. I'm not sure if you've ever been to a spring training game to know what it's like, but the big league guys get an ab or two and are done, and it's younger guys showing what they've got against big league pitching. If it was all about winning in spring training, they'd leave the 9 starters on the field for 9 innings.
To be such a "faithful" person, you can really be an a*s sometimes. Your comments about me playing, were unnecessary.
Quote from: Jarred on March 14, 2008, 01:03:57 am
Quote from: WBF † on March 14, 2008, 12:10:36 am
Troy Hudson? I'm rolling.
(I don't wanna use the quote feature - but this is to Jarred)
You....don't get it. Winning is everything, from T-ball to World Series. I will almost guarantee that everyone on this board would truck the catcher before pulling up or sliding. But since we're not cool like you and playing upper-level ball, we're wrong, right?
Yeah, something like that. The purpose of spring training games is to get guys at bats against live pitching before the season. I'm not sure if you've ever been to a spring training game to know what it's like, but the big league guys get an ab or two and are done, and it's younger guys showing what they've got against big league pitching. If it was all about winning in spring training, they'd leave the 9 starters on the field for 9 innings.
To be such a "faithful" person, you can really be an a*s sometimes. Your comments about me playing, were unnecessary.
No, I haven't. Shame huh?
About you playing? What? QF and others will bash you all day and yet I say one small thing and you get upset? Wow.
Those young players have to earn their spot in the lineup, or somewhere close to it. That won't happen pulling up at home. Plain and simple and you know it.
I think Troy Hudson played for the T'wolves back in the day.
Quote from: WBF † on March 14, 2008, 01:11:49 pm
Quote from: Jarred on March 14, 2008, 01:03:57 am
Quote from: WBF † on March 14, 2008, 12:10:36 am
Troy Hudson? I'm rolling.
(I don't wanna use the quote feature - but this is to Jarred)
You....don't get it. Winning is everything, from T-ball to World Series. I will almost guarantee that everyone on this board would truck the catcher before pulling up or sliding. But since we're not cool like you and playing upper-level ball, we're wrong, right?
Yeah, something like that. The purpose of spring training games is to get guys at bats against live pitching before the season. I'm not sure if you've ever been to a spring training game to know what it's like, but the big league guys get an ab or two and are done, and it's younger guys showing what they've got against big league pitching. If it was all about winning in spring training, they'd leave the 9 starters on the field for 9 innings.
To be such a "faithful" person, you can really be an a*s sometimes. Your comments about me playing, were unnecessary.
No, I haven't. Shame huh?
About you playing? What? QF and others will bash you all day and yet I say one small thing and you get upset? Wow.
Those young players have to earn their spot in the lineup, or somewhere close to it. That won't happen pulling up at home. Plain and simple and you know it.
I think Troy Hudson played for the T'wolves back in the day.
You think how you think about the situation, and I'll think the way I do.
We'll agree to disagree.
Last time I checked, my boy Yunel Escobar was 14-28 with 6 RBIs. I'm tellin' y'all, he's gonna be a beast this year!
Quote from: WBF † on March 14, 2008, 03:21:04 pm<br />Last time I checked, my boy Yunel Escobar was 14-28 with 6 RBIs. I'm tellin' y'all, he's gonna be a beast this year!<br />
He'll have to step up and fill Renteria's void. I've got faith in him though.
Quote from: Footballer on March 14, 2008, 03:35:37 pm
Quote from: WBF † on March 14, 2008, 03:21:04 pm<br />Last time I checked, my boy Yunel Escobar was 14-28 with 6 RBIs. I'm tellin' y'all, he's gonna be a beast this year!<br />
He'll have to step up and fill Renteria's void. I've got faith in him though.
All ER could do was hit for average and score. Shouldn't be all that hard.
He was still an All-Star SS. His defense was key, too.
Quote from: Footballer on March 14, 2008, 04:02:42 pm
He was still an All-Star SS. His defense was key, too.
YE does make a bunch of boots. I'll admit that.
Our post play is looking quite good so far. Surprised me that it be THIS good.
To add a little more validity to my argument about Spring Training games. The comedian, Billy Crystal was the leadoff man for the Yankees yesterday.
http://sports.myway.com/news/03132008/v9326.html
Quote from: Jarred on March 14, 2008, 06:26:50 pmThe comedian, Billy Crystal was the leadoff man for the Yankees yesterday.
Former Mississippi State pitcher Paul Maholm struck him out. Saw him in an interview with Crystal after the game.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on March 14, 2008, 06:28:48 pm
Quote from: Jarred on March 14, 2008, 06:26:50 pmThe comedian, Billy Crystal was the leadoff man for the Yankees yesterday.
Former Mississippi State pitcher Paul Maholm struck him out. Saw him in an interview with Crystal after the game.
Wish he would have beaned him.
Quote from: RHS on March 14, 2008, 11:03:05 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on March 14, 2008, 06:28:48 pm
Quote from: Jarred on March 14, 2008, 06:26:50 pmThe comedian, Billy Crystal was the leadoff man for the Yankees yesterday.
Former Mississippi State pitcher Paul Maholm struck him out. Saw him in an interview with Crystal after the game.
Wish he would have beaned him.
Same, just to see the reaction.
From the NYY and TB altercation:
Duncan and Melky Cabrera suspended first 3 games of season.
JG, hitting coach, and pitching coach(?) all fined.
Jonny Gomes, 2 games.
Quote from: WBF † on March 14, 2008, 04:32:37 pm
Our post play is looking quite good so far. Surprised me that it be THIS good.
Post play? Are our big men weak crashing the boards?
As for Yunel Escobar, I am excited about his potential, but lets not get too excited until he puts up the same numbers in games that mean something. While I wasn't as high on Renteria as some, he still is a good and proven SS.
Quote from: AB on March 15, 2008, 02:31:24 am
Quote from: WBF † on March 14, 2008, 04:32:37 pm
Our post play is looking quite good so far. Surprised me that it be THIS good.
Post play? Are our big men weak crashing the boards?
As for Yunel Escobar, I am excited about his potential, but lets not get too excited until he puts up the same numbers in games that mean something. While I wasn't as high on Renteria as some, he still is a good and proven SS.
LOL wrong thread!
Well the MLB season officially gets underway bright and early at 5:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. The Red Sox and A's begin a 2 game series in Japan. Anybody else planning on getting up and watching it? Despite the fact that I'm on spring break I will have my alarm set and get up to watch the game. Dice-K will be pitching for Boston. Hopefully he throws a gem being at his old stomping grounds. The adrenaline will be flowing.
I will be up at 6:30. For class at 8.
I probably won't even go to sleep until the game is over. I've actually started slowly working my way back to a normal sleeping schedule. Which for me means falling asleep between 2 and 3 a.m. and feeling like actually getting out of bed before 11. But tonight I think I'll just stay awake through the game if I can. I don't have any classes tomorrow so I can just sleep after it is over. With all that said...PLAY BALL!! I'm stoked that the season is finally underway.
Quote from: AB on March 24, 2008, 08:53:06 pmI probably won't even go to sleep until the game is over.
I thought about doing that, but we're going to Memphis all day tomorrow and that wouldn't be the greatest idea. Instead I probably won't go to sleep until 1:00 or 2:00, take a brief nap, then just get up at 5:00 and watch the game. Not a lot of sleep but I'm sure I'll manage.
I'll probably get up and watch a little bit of the game. How much I watch depends on how tired I am. I've got three classes tomorrow but they should be a breeze.
I made a bet with a buddy today to spice up this baseball season. He bet me that the Yankees would have a better record than my Braves.
Quote from: Footballer on March 25, 2008, 12:08:31 amHe bet me that the Yankees would have a better record than my Braves.
I wouldn't have taken that.
If I'm still up, I might stay awake and watch some of it. Got a court date at 2 and don't need to miss it so I might goto bed before it comes on.
Well its 5 and I cant sleep. Might as well watch some baseball*.
*- Denotes American League baseball (not as good as the National league game :) )
Red Sox win 6-5 in 10 innings.
Thanks to Directv channel 209 being out all morning I didn't get to see it. I'm still mad about that. Anyway, closer than I had hoped it would be. We were actually losing 4-3 in the 9th when Brandon Moss hit a solo homer to tie it. Manny drove in 2 of his 4 RBI's in the 10th to put us up 6-4 and Papelbon got the save in the bottom on the inning.
Nice 1-0 start to the season.
Paps got lucky that guy made a base running mistake, or the game would have been tied.
Thank you Manny for a good start to my fantasy season.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on March 25, 2008, 10:33:25 am
Red Sox win 6-5 in 10 innings.
If not for my court date, I would have watched the replay on ESPN2HD.
Court Date, what'd you do?
Quote from: Jarred on March 25, 2008, 06:11:56 pm
Court Date, what'd you do?
Speeding and no proof of insurance.
Insurance got waved since I brought my card. Speeding was 113 bucks but doesn't go on the record.
Quote from: RHS on March 25, 2008, 06:14:12 pm
Quote from: Jarred on March 25, 2008, 06:11:56 pm
Court Date, what'd you do?
Speeding and no proof of insurance.
Insurance got waved since I brought my card. Speeding was 113 bucks but doesn't go on the record.
That's not too bad then. Keeping it off the record is clutch.
Well, I stayed up all night and through the game and now feel kind of worthless since I didn't wake up until about 4:30 this afternoon. If I had known they were going to replay it on ESPN2 I would have just watched it then. Still was a good game though.
Quote from: Jarred on March 25, 2008, 06:11:56 pm
Court Date, what'd you do?
He rooted for Memphis in the NCAAs ;)
Quote from: RHS on March 25, 2008, 06:04:49 pmQuote from: msubulldogs21 on March 25, 2008, 10:33:25 amRed Sox win 6-5 in 10 innings.
If not for my court date, I would have watched the replay on ESPN2HD.
I didn't even know there was going to be a replay. I was gone all day and wouldn't have been able to see it anyway though. I can't tell you how pisse.d off I was when my Directv didn't work this morning. I woke up and was all amped up for the game, then the channel didn't have a signal. I wasn't the only one though - it was all Directv customers from what I understand.
Jon Lester and Rich Harden are on the mound tomorrow. Not the most favorable pitching matchup for us, but hopefully Lester can keep us in it long enough to get to Harden. Work that pitch count guys.
Thank the Lord this is the final game in Japan. Ugh.
I think you worded it nicely in that early morning text I got. I might just stay up to watch this one. No work for me tomorrow.
I'm trying to decide if I want to sleep for awhile now and wake up and watch it or stay up again all night and watch it and skip class tomorrow. I only have one at 1:30, but if I stay up and watch the game and then fall asleep afterwards I won't feel like getting out of bed at all until at least 2:30. And, if I go to class and by the time I get back from Fayetteville I'll miss close to half the replay.
But, sleep is overrated.
Justin, there is a good chance I am up for this game again. I don't have class till 12:30 and its the only one I have tomorrow so I can get as little sleep as I want.
My joy will come on Sundee when the Braves face the Nats.
Well, crap. A's win 5-1 today.
Rich Harden looked GOOD today. If he can stay healthy, watch out. He's got some sick stuff. On the other hand, Jon Lester was wild and all over the place. He really needs to work on his control, because that's the one thing he has struggled with since he was called up in '06.
I'm not gonna lie, I'm a little worried about our starting rotation right now. Beckett should be back soon, but after Dice-K (who can be wild himself at times) there isn't much stability. Wakefield is hit and miss, Buchholz has barely pitched in the majors, Schilling is out for at least half the season, and who knows about Bartolo Colon. Couple that with Varitek looked putrid offensively and there's some cause for concern.
Whoever had Harden got some points from him today.
Dice-K got off to a real shakey start yesterday, espicially in the first inning.
Quote from: Jarred on March 13, 2008, 12:27:46 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 12, 2008, 10:40:01 pm
Quote from: Jarred on March 12, 2008, 10:30:18 pm
^ You failed to mention the collision at homeplate at an earlier game in Spring Training. It's a fairly well known, unwritten rule that you don't take out the catcher in a Spring Training game. They make a dirty play, you retaliate, it's how the game's played.
You have the uniforms on, people pay to see it, score is kept. I saw nothing wrong with the play at home. It was not dirty at all, just baseball. God forbid someone touch a yankee.
Regular season, when you're fighting for a playoff spot, go ahead, take out the catcher. But in an exhibition game...that's a little over the top. The catcher's not out for 10-12 weeks with a broken wrist.
I just started reading this thread, so what I'm about to say may have already been said...if so I apologize. It is stupid to say you can't hit the catcher in a spring training game. When that kid was rounding third base, has wasn't thinking about some stupid UNWRITTEN rule, but he was thinking about trying to earn a spot on a big league club. I'm a huge baseball fan. I live & die with the Cardinals (this year may kill me), but baseball is full of stupid unwritten rules (don't steal signs, don't bunt to break up a no-hitter, etc.). Baseball needs to get over it and just play. If the catcher doesn't want to see contact, go play golf or something.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on March 26, 2008, 04:42:02 pm
Well, crap. A's win 5-1 today.
Rich Harden looked GOOD today. If he can stay healthy, watch out. He's got some sick stuff. On the other hand, Jon Lester was wild and all over the place. He really needs to work on his control, because that's the one thing he has struggled with since he was called up in '06.
I'm not gonna lie, I'm a little worried about our starting rotation right now. Beckett should be back soon, but after Dice-K (who can be wild himself at times) there isn't much stability. Wakefield is hit and miss, Buchholz has barely pitched in the majors, Schilling is out for at least half the season, and who knows about Bartolo Colon. Couple that with Varitek looked putrid offensively and there's some cause for concern.
Harden has good enough stuff to be a Cy Young candidate if he can remain healthy all season long. Then again if he does stay healthy, put up great numbers, and either win or finish high in the Cy Youn voting, he will be dealt in the offseason.
After watching these two games I couldn't believe how many no names the A's had in their lineup. I mean I've heard of them all, I just can't see them winning very many games with that offense and no reliable pitching after Harden and maybe Blanton.
The Angels rotation has really gone south in a hurry. Kelvim Escobar is out for the season with a tear in his shoulder that requires season ending surgery. John Lackey is out 6-8 weeks as well. That leaves a rotation of Weaver, Garland, Mosely, Santana, and Saunders for the time being. When you take into account their weak offense and how good the Mariners are looking, there are some serious problems out in LA.
The Angels are lucky that they play in a weak division. Even with Lackey being out for around two months, and Escobar is gone for the season, they still should remain in the hunt for the AL West crown. Oakland may be a scrappy team all season long, but if you take one look at their lineup you will quickly write off any hopes of them winning more than 80 games. The Angels don't neccessarily have that terrible of an offense. Especially when you compare it to the rest of the division. Texas plays in a hitters park and has a terrible pitching staff. Obviously they are better offensively than defensively. But the injuries to Lackey and Escobar hurt. Tori Hunter hasn't ever been an offensive juggernaut by any means, but still has been a steady bat in the lineup throughout his career. Garrett Anderson has gone from a perrenial All-Star that hit for a high average to a below average hitter in just a couple of seasons.
Opens the door a bit wider for my Mariners.
Seattle should be very solid this year. They got Bedard to anchor their staff. He is in a much weaker division now. Especially in regards when it comes to the other three lineups within the division. If Felix Hernandez can stay healthy this season and pitch like he did last season when healthy, and Bedard pitches like he is capable, then the Mariners have one of the best 1-2 punches in the entire league on their pitching staff.
I've been watching the Red Sox/Dodgers exhibition game which is being played tonight at the LA Coliseum. There's something like 93,000 people there. It's 201 FEET down the LF line. I kid you not. A player just hit a blooper down the line and it hit the top of the wall. It's pretty comical to watch.
I'm lookin for the Braves to win the NL East. Yes i know that the Phillies and Mets are on the top two teams in that division in a lot of people's opinions, but i don't care. I'm a diehard Braves fan and I think they'll surprise everybody. Probably another late season meltdown by the Mets will happen again.
Braves are becoming the hot pick for media members.
Quote from: suspended on March 30, 2008, 06:08:39 pm
I'm lookin for the Braves to win the NL East. Yes i know that the Phillies and Mets are on the top two teams in that division in a lot of people's opinions, but i don't care. I'm a diehard Braves fan and I think they'll surprise everybody. Probably another late season meltdown by the Mets will happen again.
I'm going to say no way the Mets meltdown like they did last year. They'll have the best pitcher in baseball, and if Pedro can get 12-15 wins, they'll be money.
This is coming from a Braves fan. While I like the Braves potential, on paper they don't really compare to the Mets, or even the Phillies. Then again on paper the Mets and Phillies are probably the two best NL teams. Games aren't played on paper, and I won't be surprised if the NL East is a three horse race for most of the year. However, if the Mets have a pretty big lead in the division late in the season I don't see how they can have an epic meltdown like they did last season. They didn't have a healthy Pedro much of last year, and now they have the best pitcher in baseball to boost. Not too mention the best lineup, 1-8, in not only the NL but one of the best in the entire league.
With all that said I am not giving up on the Braves and really hope they can find a way into the playoffs this year.
yeah hopefully Mike Hampton will make it back onto the field and be dependable like he was before his two year vacation
I've got the Braves winning the NL Wild Card. I think the Mets will be too good to overtake in the division, but the Phillies will be strong and in the hunt for a playoff spot as well. It will definitely be an exciting race in the NL East.
It's so nice to have baseball back again. I'm really looking forward to watching the game tonight.
Been a great sports day. The Memphis/Texas game was anti-climatic. But the Davidson/Kansas game was the best of the Elite 8 games.
Now I get to sit back and enjoy the Braves/Nats to start the season. Glad this game is on ESPN tonight because I'm not going to have the pleasure of seeing basically ever Atlanta game now that they don't have their rights or whatever with TBS.
And Peter Gammons just gave the Braves the kiss of death. He picked the Indians to beat the Braves in the World Series this year.
In all seriousness though. Gammons is probably my favorite analyst on ESPN. And IMO the most knowledgeable. I just would like Atlanta to play the underdog role all season long.
Wouldn't miss this. Time to start working on a new streak.
I was surprised to see a lot of analysts have picks the Braves to go far this year.
They've got an article on ESPN on how the Braves might win the World Series:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/preview08/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=3320120
I'm a big Braves fan but I really don't see them going that far. I'd be happy with an NLCS appearance.
Well the president just got a loud rendition of Boo's when he threw out the first pitch in Washington.
Quote from: RGP on March 30, 2008, 06:59:30 pm
I was surprised to see a lot of analysts have picks the Braves to go far this year.
They've got an article on ESPN on how the Braves might win the World Series:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/preview08/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=3320120
I'm a big Braves fan but I really don't see them going that far. I'd be happy with an NLCS appearance.
I couldn't believe it when I saw it.
I'm going to start a Braves Season long thread for those interested. I think we have at least 6 reg posters that are Braves fans.
We're here and I love it. ESPN put the onus right on us with the pre-season favorite tag for the World Series so at least someone thinks we're good.
Smoltz on the DL to start. Andruw gone. Glavine Back.
Season opener on right now.
Go Braves.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 30, 2008, 07:14:07 pm
Well the president just got a loud rendition of Boo's when he threw out the first pitch in Washington.
Yeah that kind of rubbed me the wrong way. I am more of a Bush supporter than hater, but thought it was a pretty classless thing for the fans to do. It's a baseball game, his last opening day as president, get over yourself and if you don't like him just shut up and at least not boo the man.
Glad Atlanta decided to wear good looking uniforms for the parks opening................... ::)
We don't try to impress with a lot of bling.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 30, 2008, 07:26:39 pm
Glad Atlanta decided to wear good looking uniforms for the parks opening................... ::)
I think they look more like tee shirts than uniforms. I don't like them.
They look like softball uniforms.
I'm a little upset we all didn't wear chains like Odalis Perez has on.
I wish we would have gone with the traditional gray uni's for opening day. Save the alternate crap for the middle of the season sometime. While I love the Braves' colors these jersies aren't my favorite.
I'm glad we don't have to worry about the for sure out in the line up this year and he left for the Dodgers.
He could barely hit .200 and was wanting over 20 million dollars from the Braves.
...Speaking of lots of money, I'm interested in seeing how long Hampton lasts this year and how he'll do. I place part of the blame for our last two seasons on him and his 13 million dollar paycheck while doing nothing.
Hampton or Glavine doing well will would be great. Both simply too much to ask.
I'm going to miss 'Druw though. But he wasn't worth the $$$ for sure.
Kotsay won't be a big dropoff defensively in CF. That is staying quite a bit too.
Andruw's offensive numbers(mainly BA)have not been great the past several seasons. I do miss him because he always one of my favorite Braves, but I don't feel we are losing as much as some people think with Jones being a Dodger now.
Did I just see a caveman in the background?
My dad sat by Andruw on a plane out of Atlanta sometime in December or Januray. He said that Andruw said it tore him up to be leaving Atlanta.
I guess it didn't bother him too much, or he would've lowerd his price tag.
Quote from: Footballer on March 30, 2008, 07:40:34 pm
My dad sat by Andruw on a plane out of Atlanta sometime in December or Januray. He said that Andruw said it tore him up to be leaving Atlanta.
I guess it didn't bother him too much, or he would've lowerd his price tag.
He is making a living. Just because he didn't take a severe pay cat to stay in Atlanta does not mean he really was sad to leave.
Nick Johnson with an RBI double to give the Nationals an early 1-0 lead.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 30, 2008, 07:39:38 pm
Did I just see a caveman in the background?
No, that's just Dmitri Young.
He did give the Braves a discount the last time around. He could have made a lot more, but tool less. But he's gone. I have to say I don't have faith in Kotsay.
My #1 roster goal is to see Mark T signed long term.
crap 2-0 Wash.
Jeffrey's arm not sharp yet.
Kearns drives in another 2-0 Washington. Man they have some really good looking uniforms.
pooh
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 30, 2008, 07:43:56 pm
He did give the Braves a discount the last time around. He could have made a lot more, but tool less. But he's gone. I have to say I don't have faith in Kotsay.
My #1 roster goal is to see Mark T signed long term.
Kotsay is also a class A jerk. Saw it first hand when he was in Oakland and they played at St. Louis.
If Teixera stays for the long haul, he and Chipper could develop into the best 3-4 in baseball.
Kotsay may also have some injury problems.
On another note, boy this is looking ugly. Their fielding is like a fourth grade squad right now.
Elijah Dukes AND Lastings Milledge? On the SAME team? In the SAME outfield? High comedy.
Wow. If that doesn't spell disaster I don't know what does.
Cox has handled lots of hotheads before (like Sheff) and I have faith he can keep Kotsay under wraps.
Crap McCann. You don't have speed.
Very true.
O/U for their first incident is May 15th.
Quote from: Footballer on March 30, 2008, 07:46:08 pm
If Teixera stays for the long haul, he and Chipper could develop into the best 3-4 in baseball.
Manny and Papi disagree.
Maggs and Cabrera disagree.
D. Wright and Beltran disagree.
D. Lee and Aramis disagree.
Utley and Howard disagree.
I see your point, but these guys are all in the same league, if not better.
Go Nats!
Are any of yall Braves fans not worried about the starting pitching? After Smoltz and Hudson it's really, really iffy. Better hope 1-2 stay healthy.
By the way, I don't think you have to worry that much about Kotsay getting in trouble. I wouldn't really consider him much of a hothead.
Quote from: Bill Bethea on March 30, 2008, 07:57:40 pm
I see your point, but these guys are all in the same league, if not better.
RGP and Quite Frankly disagree.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 30, 2008, 07:54:10 pmVery true.
O/U for their first incident is May 15th.
Taking the under.
Somebody get them a reality show. Fast. Must see TV.
As switch hitters, they present more problems. Plus compared to some of those they also play the field.
But rest assured, no one is better than my Chipper. :)
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on March 30, 2008, 07:58:55 pm
Are any of yall Braves fans not worried about the starting pitching? After Smoltz and Hudson it's really, really iffy. Better hope 1-2 stay healthy.
No, the one you have to worry about staying healthy is the 4 pitcher.
Tom Glavine was one of the top pitchers in the NL until his final three outings last year. The 5 pitcher was the centerpiece of the deal for Renteria and has a ton of potential.
Braves fans have had to deal with terrible starting pitching the last two years. This will be a completely different story.
Will it be;
a) fighting a teammate
b) fighting in a strip club
c) fighting an opposing player
d) arrest of another nature
Another base running error. Little rusty tonight. Cox is hacked.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 30, 2008, 08:02:01 pm
As switch hitters, they present more problems.
Exactly. With the other pairs pitchers can pitch around one of the two to get a more favorbale match-up. You can't do that with Chipper and Teixera.
Nice play by Escobar, showing off his range.
CHIPPER
1st HR of the year and in that park.
Awesome. Man I love the Braves.
I'm going with:
e) jumping a teammate IN a strip club
Or we could be on the safe side and just go with all the above.
FTR, let it be noted that Larry 'Chipper' Jones has hit the years first HR in the States.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 30, 2008, 08:02:01 pm
But rest assured, no one is better than my Chipper. :)
Well, either way, he just got me some fantasy points.... that was a rod.
I haven't chimed in much on the game. Braves haven't exactly looked sharp. Granted we are only down by a run. The first inning we just looked very sloppy. Good thing there are 161 games after this one.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on March 30, 2008, 07:58:55 pm
Are any of yall Braves fans not worried about the starting pitching? After Smoltz and Hudson it's really, really iffy. Better hope 1-2 stay healthy.
By the way, I don't think you have to worry that much about Kotsay getting in trouble. I wouldn't really consider him much of a hothead.
The past couple of seasons I would have said yes. But this year, not anymore so than if I was a Red Sox fan. ;D
In all seriousness though, there are some question marks in our rotation no matter how good Glavine was last year. And Hampton is a health risk and hasn't shown me much since he has been a Brave. Chuck James is a great young prospect but still hasn't done enough yet to convince me he will be a good pitcher in this league for years to come. So of course there are questions but not as many as the last couple of seasons.
The braves haven't been to the postseason in two years because of one big thing: pitching. The last two years they have been one of the top teams in MLB in OBP, but have been one of the worst teams in bullpen performance. Hopefully, Soriano can prove to be the closer we need. I think the braves will make a big run this year due to the big three.
Chipper is on my fantasy team. Yay.
on all 3 of mine.......
Quote from: AB on March 30, 2008, 08:31:37 pmQuote from: msubulldogs21 on March 30, 2008, 07:58:55 pmAre any of yall Braves fans not worried about the starting pitching? After Smoltz and Hudson it's really, really iffy. Better hope 1-2 stay healthy.
The past couple of seasons I would have said yes. But this year, not anymore so than if I was a Red Sox fan. ;D
Haha, we have plenty of question marks. I'm already worried, but we'll save that for the MLB thread.
I'm just not sold on Glavine being all that great this year. I think he will be an ok pitcher (maybe somewhere around .500 with about a 4.00 ERA) but nothing special, granted he is in his 40's and I realize there aren't huge expectations for him or anything. I just brought up the SP issue though because I figured it would be something interesting to talk about. If Atlanta can get some consistency from the 4-5 guys they're gonna be tough.
I just want Tommy to be a good 3rd starter. I think he will.
I just want to see some consistent bullpen work and especially at the closer spot. Just once a closer that does his job an entire year.
Timmmmaaaay is mowing 'em down.
Offense is lacking on both sides, but I'm sure it'll pick up later on in the series (if this is a series ;)).
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 30, 2008, 07:39:38 pm
Did I just see a caveman in the background?
I SEEN THAT TOO! I thought my eyes were joshin me.
Tomorrow, they've got the day off before they start a series against the Pirates. They finished up Spring Training just yesterday...
Quote from: RGP on March 30, 2008, 09:02:58 pm
Tomorrow, they've got the day off before they start a series against the Pirates. They finished up Spring Training just yesterday...
Inside joke with AB.
Too bad I'm not laughing.
Quote from: AB on March 30, 2008, 09:05:01 pm
Too bad I'm not laughing.
Nor was I when you accused me. :)
Timmay has 6 different pitches. Nice.
I'm ready to see the bullpen. Screw the rest of the game.
Do y'all like the idea of the base coaches wearing helmets?
Their call I guess. Understand both sides.
Don't think this was already posted - check this front page article.
ESPN: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/preview08/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=3320120
Yep it was on the MLB thread. It sparked me to do a Braves only season thread. :)
Come on Chipper. dang.
Night seems to be made for the Nationals.
Lets go Tex.
Dang. I thought that was gone.
My "Get outa here ball!!" didn't work for Tex.
DOuble. Stinking to high fence. McCann and Tex just missing.
Come on Francie
Crossed.Him.Up.
Man that foul too. Sniffing it too often to not get it done.
Come on Jeffrey.
crap....
McCann can do it.
YEP
I'll take that every time.
I PROMISE I knew that was coming! I swear.
This is a good sign for the Braves' up-coming year. World Champs!
easy. Work left to do.
Bullpen time.
I wanna see what Soriano can do here. Better yet, one of the newbies.
There needs to be a test done to prove that sliding into first is slower than running through it. Golllllleeeeeee.
Freekin clutch.
Frick.
Nice ending. Nice story. I like Zimmerman. Guess it was supposed to be that way in the new park.
No more jumping with both feet like that before it's over WBF.
How fitting that the face of the Nationals hits a walk-off homer in the 1st ever game in their new park. What a way to start the season.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 30, 2008, 09:44:53 pm
Nice ending. Nice story. I like Zimmerman. Guess it was supposed to be that way in the new park.
No more jumping with both feet like that before it's over WBF.
end of sarcasm.
I can handle it. 162 games. Good game. Better than the dang NBA.
It just wasn't meant to be.
Both Tex and McCann missed having a home run by 2 feet. Bats just weren't working for most of the night. Really, the day break will help and we can sweep the Pirates to get back on track.
I've missed baseball season.
Quote from: AB on March 30, 2008, 07:26:07 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 30, 2008, 07:14:07 pm
Well the president just got a loud rendition of Boo's when he threw out the first pitch in Washington.
Yeah that kind of rubbed me the wrong way. I am more of a Bush supporter than hater, but thought it was a pretty classless thing for the fans to do. It's a baseball game, his last opening day as president, get over yourself and if you don't like him just shut up and at least not boo the man.
They payed. They can boo who they like. ;D
Quote from: WBF † on March 30, 2008, 09:14:10 pm
Do y'all like the idea of the base coaches wearing helmets?
I like it, it's a reasonable thing to do ever since that Minor League coach got killed last year in Little Rock when a foul line drive smashed his head.
Quote from: WBF † on March 30, 2008, 09:14:10 pm
Do y'all like the idea of the base coaches wearing helmets?
Yes. There have been injuries to base coaches in the past from arrant foul balls. Them wearing a helmet may not look natural but it isn't hurting anybody and keeping them a little safer.
I really hate to be this guy. But as a Braves fan this thread doesn't make us look that great. No other MLB team has their own thread on here. And there are a ton more Cardinals fans on here than Braves fans. We already have an MLB thread. It just seems kind of arrogant and pointless to me. I know that wasn't the intentions when starting the thread, but like I said no other team has their own thread.
i like it
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 30, 2008, 07:37:16 pm
Hampton or Glavine doing well will would be great.
One been injured for a while and the other is OLD.
Good luck with that.
Quote from: AB on March 30, 2008, 10:06:59 pm
I really hate to be this guy. But as a Braves fan this thread doesn't make us look that great. No other MLB team has their own thread on here. And there are a ton more Cardinals fans on here than Braves fans. We already have an MLB thread. It just seems kind of arrogant and pointless to me. I know that wasn't the intentions when starting the thread, but like I said no other team has their own thread.
Yet here you are on it too! :)
I wanted to talk Braves and Braves alone. I like the MLB thread, but it gets littered with far too many teams. Cards, Bosox, etc. That's all fine and I'm on that one too.
But I don't see this as any different than a game thread for each Hog game or a GW vs SS game thread. heck this whole board is littered with fractured threads for those that want to follow something specific without following everything.
No arrogance intended. But yours is noted.
Quote from: RGP on March 30, 2008, 09:54:37 pmTex missed having a home run by 2 feet.
That would have helped me in my fantasy league. He got me a lousy 4 points.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 30, 2008, 10:17:06 pm
Quote from: AB on March 30, 2008, 10:06:59 pm
I really hate to be this guy. But as a Braves fan this thread doesn't make us look that great. No other MLB team has their own thread on here. And there are a ton more Cardinals fans on here than Braves fans. We already have an MLB thread. It just seems kind of arrogant and pointless to me. I know that wasn't the intentions when starting the thread, but like I said no other team has their own thread.
Yet here you are on it too! :)
I wanted to talk Braves and Braves alone. I like the MLB thread, but it gets littered with far too many teams. Cards, Bosox, etc. That's all fine and I'm on that one too.
But I don't see this as any different than a game thread for each Hog game or a GW vs SS game thread. heck this whole board is littered with fractured threads for those that want to follow something specific without following everything.
No arrogance intended. But yours is noted.
I'm not showing any arrogance. I'm a little embarrassed by the thread. Atlanta is not a local team. St. Louis, Kansas City and even Texas are all closer. St. Louis fans would have the best reason to start their own thread. Mainly because there are so many on here.
Seeing as how we live in Arkansas and the teams you mentioned are high school teams in Arkansas, then there isn't anything wrong with starting individual threads for each of their games. This is a little different since there are less than 10 Braves fans on this entire board that post, and Atlanta isn't exactly a local team.
It's local enough to have 8 or so active posters on this board. "Embarrassed" by a thread? A little but dramatic don't you think?
We have Dallas threads, NE threads, Soccer threads, Memphis threads. No one left you king of what's allowed and what's not. Those soccer threads don't have 10 people on them and yet no one jumps in to rail those.
No one dragged your butt here. Don't like it. Don't read it. Don't post.
And it is arrogance. Arrogance that you think it matters what you think as it pertains to this thread.
Chill out.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 30, 2008, 10:28:34 pm
It's local enough to have 8 or so active posters on this board. "Embarrassed" by a thread? A little but dramatic don't you think?
We have Dallas threads, NE threads, Soccer threads, Memphis threads. No one left you king of what's allowed and what's not. Those soccer threads don't have 10 people on them and yet no one jumps in to rail those.
No one dragged your butt here. Don't like it. Don't read it. Don't post.
And it is arrogance. Arrogance that you think it matters what you think as it pertains to this thread.
Chill out.
dude you're the one that needs to chill out. i agree with you on all points but you're the one that's gettin worked up
I wish most of the games tomorrow weren't during the early afternoon. Chances are I'll miss most of them due to school/practice. At least there's 3 night games I guess.
Let me tell yall one thing - MLB Extra Innings... is great. This will be the 4th straight year I've purchased it. Well worth it. I get all 162 Red Sox games.
Dont' worry I'm done posting in here, and will probably go far enough to delete my posts in it. That should make you happier. You apparently know everything and are never wrong about anything. That is evident in the tone of about every single one of your posts.
I don't recall ever seeing a New England thread. The soccer thread isn't for one individual team. The Memphis thread was started by one of the biggest idiots on the entire board and makes for high entertainment that sparks lively arguments and debates.
Embarrassed may be a little dramatic, but I don't exactly like the thought of the thread. I'm done posting in it.
I'm not worked up suspended. Just fail to see the angst and intent.
You don't know me well enough yet. This isn't even a lather. :)
I'd buy Extra Innings if I wasn't going to be gone more than half of the summer again working. I have really enjoyed having it though in the past.
I'm thinking about skipping class tomorrow to watch opening day games. There isn't an opening day in sports that compares to MLB's opening day.
where do you go to school?
My dad is getting the Extra Innings package. We are going to get every Marlin game this year. :)
Quote from: AB on March 30, 2008, 10:32:23 pm
Dont' worry I'm done posting in here, and will probably go far enough to delete my posts in it. That should make you happier. You apparently know everything and are never wrong about anything. That is evident in the tone of about every single one of your posts.
I don't recall ever seeing a New England thread. The soccer thread isn't for one individual team. The Memphis thread was started by one of the biggest idiots on the entire board and makes for high entertainment that sparks lively arguments and debates.
Embarrassed may be a little dramatic, but I don't exactly like the thought of the thread. I'm done posting in it.
You think coming on here and saying that was just going to pass? I love the Braves. Only wanted to talk about them here and with those that thought the same. You stirred the pot.
I like your posts and agree with you quite a bit. But the Braves have been a staple in the NWA market for years with TBS when you couldn't get any other games on a reg basis. They have a thread just like this on HV. No one started crying on it.
There are posters that start threads on things all the time for their teams. Heck I hate some of them too. But until they start multiple ones of them on the same thing it's no big deal.
You don't like it? Fine Wanted to say it? Fine. But you have to know it wouldn't go unnoticed.
It's not stickied to the top.
I'll let it go now. Good luck to you.
AB, 1159 either of you on Cox cable? Have you got the package before?
Anyone else got it on Cox? Cost? details? Do you have to have tier service?
I got the majority of Atlanta games on TBS with or without Extra Innings. That is the only thing I am going to miss.
It is also great when you are up late at night in the summer and can catch a game on the west coast starting at 9 or 9:30 our time.
I don't want to ruin this thread by continuing to talk about the "arrogance" of it, but I really have enjoyed it and was looking forward to using it all year long.
People aren't required to read this thread. heck, I don't read plenty of threads. Arrogant because we have a thread about a team? I just think he's over analyzing this wayyyyy too much. You know we've got a great thread going when we have 65 posts in the matter of a few hours so obviously a lot of people are interested.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 30, 2008, 10:42:46 pm
AB, 1159 either of you on Cox cable? Have you got the package before?
Anyone else got it on Cox? Cost? details? Do you have to have tier service?
I've had it on Cox the last three seasons. I can't remember the cost exactly. One year we got it for free as a promo for getting Cox cable. That was the first year. I want to say it costs either $99.99 or $199.99. My gut tells me it's the latter. May seem a bit pricey but if your a big baseball fan well worth it. Especially if your a Braves fans and them not having their deal with TBS anymore. Like I said. If I wasn't going to be gone more than half the summer working I would get it again this year. My dad may still go ahead an buy it because he is a big baseball fan as well, but he is gone quite a bit during the summer even though he is a teacher. I haven't really asked him about it.
Braves, good luck on getting title number two.
Just remember. You aint go no history on the Cardinals.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on March 30, 2008, 10:31:31 pm
Let me tell yall one thing - MLB Extra Innings... is great.
This will be my first season to have it since the Braves aren't on TBS anymore.
He may be over analyzing it a little too much. I can see where he's coming from with the whole Atlanta not being a local team and the other individual threads being mainly for local teams. But like it has been stated no one is forced to come here and if he doesn't like it he'll stop coming to it.
Except for more wins these past two seasons...when we haven't made the playoffs... ???
Quote from: AB on March 30, 2008, 10:46:58 pm
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 30, 2008, 10:42:46 pm
AB, 1159 either of you on Cox cable? Have you got the package before?
Anyone else got it on Cox? Cost? details? Do you have to have tier service?
I've had it on Cox the last three seasons. I can't remember the cost exactly. One year we got it for free as a promo for getting Cox cable. That was the first year. I want to say it costs either $99.99 or $199.99. My gut tells me it's the latter. May seem a bit pricey but if your a big baseball fan well worth it. Especially if your a Braves fans and them not having their deal with TBS anymore. Like I said. If I wasn't going to be gone more than half the summer working I would get it again this year. My dad may still go ahead an buy it because he is a big baseball fan as well, but he is gone quite a bit during the summer even though he is a teacher. I haven't really asked him about it.
The TBS deal has me sick and hacked. If we got the FOx sports from that market instead of Houston/TExas it would be great, but it's not.
I love the summer West Coast late games.
I checked Cox about a week ago and no price was up.
I have tier service up to Channel 73. Will have to increase that to be able to get the package? Or can I just get the package?
I think with it being 'out of marker' it won't block me much from seeing the Braves.
From 140+ games to about 20 maybe on Fox, Espn and Tbs is going to suck.
Quote from: RGP on March 30, 2008, 10:48:42 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on March 30, 2008, 10:31:31 pm
Let me tell yall one thing - MLB Extra Innings... is great.
This will be my first season to have it since the Braves aren't on TBS anymore.
Exactly. Which is what they wanted. But I'll prob do it. We were so limited on TBS the past few years anyway.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 30, 2008, 10:47:39 pm
Braves, good luck on getting title number two.
Just remember. You aint go no history on the Cardinals.
We only count divisions titles. Playoffs are another matter.
Beats the crap out those dang Cub fans.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 30, 2008, 10:53:19 pm
I have tier service up to Channel 73. Will have to increase that to be able to get the package? Or can I just get the package?
Do you have a box? Because I think you have to have the box in order to get the Extra Innings.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 30, 2008, 10:53:19 pm
Quote from: AB on March 30, 2008, 10:46:58 pm
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 30, 2008, 10:42:46 pm
AB, 1159 either of you on Cox cable? Have you got the package before?
Anyone else got it on Cox? Cost? details? Do you have to have tier service?
I've had it on Cox the last three seasons. I can't remember the cost exactly. One year we got it for free as a promo for getting Cox cable. That was the first year. I want to say it costs either $99.99 or $199.99. My gut tells me it's the latter. May seem a bit pricey but if your a big baseball fan well worth it. Especially if your a Braves fans and them not having their deal with TBS anymore. Like I said. If I wasn't going to be gone more than half the summer working I would get it again this year. My dad may still go ahead an buy it because he is a big baseball fan as well, but he is gone quite a bit during the summer even though he is a teacher. I haven't really asked him about it.
The TBS deal has me sick and hacked. If we got the FOx sports from that market instead of Houston/TExas it would be great, but it's not.
I love the summer West Coast late games.
I checked Cox about a week ago and no price was up.
I have tier service up to Channel 73. Will have to increase that to be able to get the package? Or can I just get the package?
I think with it being 'out of marker' it won't block me much from seeing the Braves.
From 140+ games to about 20 maybe on Fox, Espn and Tbs is going to suck.
I can't ever remember a Braves game getting blacked out on Extra Innings. Even when on TBS.
If you don't have the Cox Cable box then you'll probably have to get that. Because the Extra Inning channels for Cox are in the 600's.
So that will cost you a little extra as well. It really just depends on how bad you want to watch the Braves and how much you love baseball. ;)
I'm afraid they got me by the Chipper.
http://www.cox.com/gocox/indemand/mlb.asp
I found this. It looks like you have to upgrade to digital. But my tv isn't. Can you get a digital feed and digital channels to see the games and not actually have digital?
I entered the zip code and it said $159.99.
I knew they'd take advantage of the Braves fans and jack the price once it got off TBS. :)
How does WGN survive?
By showing Cubs and White Sox games. The FSN we get of course shows plenty of Rangers and Astros games. I don't hate either team by any means but they aren't anywhere near the top of my list of teams I like to watch play.
I don't understand the whole digital TV thing. I know that all televisions are supposed to go digital in 2009 but that doesn't mean I understand what they mean when they say that. And that may not even be what you're talking about.
Quote from: AB on March 31, 2008, 12:20:56 am
The FSN we get of course shows plenty of Rangers and Astros games.
Come on. Those teams were so competetive last year.
Quote from: AB on March 31, 2008, 12:20:56 am
I don't understand the whole digital TV thing. I know that all televisions are supposed to go digital in 2009 but that doesn't mean I understand what they mean when they say that.
Basically it rules out bunny ears or antennas.
Not on the subject of TBS or anything, but I was freakin stoked the other day when scrolling through the 120's on my guide I found ESPNU had been added. Early birthday for me.
We got ESPNU quite a while ago. But we may have bought it. I really don't know. It's like 121 or something like that.
It's 126 here. I know that I normally didn't have it and noticed it the other day since I check out FSC. Had it for maybe 3 or 4 days now. Been showing a bunch of the Frozen Four and college lacrosse.
Yeah it may be 126 here too. I'm not really sure. It's in the 120s. But I love it. Like you said it shows a ton of college sports that you normally don't get to see. And for college basketball games of schools that you normally don't get to see.
I'm happy that it rolled on so I can watch some spring football games when they start to happen.
ESPNU is sorry when it comes to its college baseball coverage. It would rather show some crappy show than a college baseball game. Shame shame.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 30, 2008, 10:56:03 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 30, 2008, 10:47:39 pm
Braves, good luck on getting title number two.
Just remember. You aint go no history on the Cardinals.
We only count divisions titles. Playoffs are another matter.
Beats the crap out those dang Cub fans.
True true. I would rather the Braves win it every year if it kept the Cubs from getting close.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 30, 2008, 10:47:39 pm
Braves, good luck on getting title number two.
Just remember. You aint go no history on the Cardinals.
Who cares about history? I care about NOW.
I'm on QF's side for the first time in a long time - AB, if you don't like the thread, then why even post to entertain yourself? You just make us irritated and want to argue and derail the thread.
BACK TO THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAM:
I can't help but feel good after reading that article last night on the Braves. That has me all riled up for the season!
If the Braves can have a thread than so can the good guys.
Please be in prayer for us Cardinal fans...it's gonna be a rough year.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on March 31, 2008, 02:54:11 pm
If the Braves can have a thread than so can the good guys.
Please be in prayer for us Cardinal fans...it's gonna be a rough year.
Heard on Espn this mornign that they are predicting the Cubs to collapse (again), and the Cardinals to pull off another miracle season...
I would expect nothing else but for us to do another Miracle Season! GO CARDINALS BABY!!!
I beileve that they can make it to playoffs but i just don't want to see Boston winning it again.
.500 ball +2 wins might win that division. I really worry about them banking on Wainwright so much. I love the Cards(not as much as XXXXXXX) and hope they find a way.
Carpenter has to come back for them to have a chance.
How many of you Braves fans have been to Turner Field for a game?
I have seen around 10 games there over the course of 4 different trips. But not in the past few years due to work issues.
OK, so who else is a Montreal Expos fan? I know it's been since like 2003 since they had a decent team, and like 20 something years since they've won their division, but I'm going to remain optimistic. Losing Vlad a few years ago hurt, but I'm sure some new guys will step up. Regardless, you gotta love the hat.
(http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-1338359dt.jpg)
I got to watch a series when I was little. I think it was when the park had just opened. I remember that the Crime Dog, Klesko, and Mark Wohlers were still playing.
Quote from: WBF † on March 31, 2008, 10:39:02 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 30, 2008, 10:47:39 pm
Braves, good luck on getting title number two.
Just remember. You aint go no history on the Cardinals.
Who cares about history? I care about NOW.
I'm on QF's side for the first time in a long time - AB, if you don't like the thread, then why even post to entertain yourself? You just make us irritated and want to argue and derail the thread.
BACK TO THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAM:
I can't help but feel good after reading that article last night on the Braves. That has me all riled up for the season!
The history of a team is a matter of pride. Are you not proud to be the fan of a team that has a winning HISTORY?? Just askin.
I've never been to Turner Field but I've seen the Braves dominate the Cards at Busch Stadium
I've seen the Braves at St.L for 4 different series. Also saw them in Texas once.
I keep waiting for them to go to KC. That's the closest for me. I can be there in 3 hours easily.
Lets go......... ummmmmm. You!
You meant the Washingtion Nationals Right even though the expos wasn't playing well and losing lots of fans back then.
No, I mean the Montreal Expos. The Nationals are in D.C.
Quote from: WBF † on March 31, 2008, 10:39:02 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 30, 2008, 10:47:39 pm
Braves, good luck on getting title number two.
Just remember. You aint go no history on the Cardinals.
Who cares about history? I care about NOW.
I'm on QF's side for the first time in a long time - AB, if you don't like the thread, then why even post to entertain yourself? You just make us irritated and want to argue and derail the thread.
BACK TO THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAM:
I can't help but feel good after reading that article last night on the Braves. That has me all riled up for the season!
Everyone cares about the teams history. Its ok fella.
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on March 31, 2008, 03:36:18 pm
No, I mean the Montreal Expos. The Nationals are in D.C.
Duh! People sometimes.......
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on March 31, 2008, 02:54:11 pm
If the Braves can have a thread than so can the good guys.
Please be in prayer for us Cardinal fans...it's gonna be a rough year.
Any chance we can get McGwire to come out of retirement to take out minds off a mediocre team again?
I know there not that many yankees fans on this board but this is there last year playing in yankee stadium and they are hosting the all-star game for the final time there.The New Stadium suppose to be ready by next year and i think it's going to be next door to the old one.Here's what the new stadium would look like.http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/ballpark/new_stadium.jsp]
I love the regular season. As a Brave fan I just find myself going into instant funk once the playoffs start. I have learned to live with that. 162 for th Div title. Anything else is a bonus.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 31, 2008, 03:40:31 pm
I love the regular season. As a Brave fan I just find myself going into instant funk once the playoffs start. I have learned to live with that. 162 for th Div title. Anything else is a bonus.
I was that way with the Cards. Our best teams didn't even make the World Series. We won it with a team that was sub-par the the ones that were before them.
Last I heard, cat got his tongue.
Frick the Yankees.
That's in the past. He's not here to talk about the past.
I loved Mark. I just hated how that played out. Sorry to cast a shadow on the thread.
Proof that U.S. leagues need to adopt soccer's relegation system.
In all seriousness I do like the Royals. And since I will be working for their AA team I will know the players better and it will make me a bigger fan. Plus the K is just a beautiful small stadium.
Flattery abounds with copy cats wannabes.
How many more will rear their head? The St.L one is legit. Arkansas is a huge Card state. The NYY should be lonely posting.
Starting Pitchers:
Adam Wainwright
Braden Looper
Kyle Lohse
Todd Wellemeyer
Brad Thompson
Now, that is one scary rotation right there.
Hey if you want to get local Kansas City is the way to go. :)
After the Hogs season ends, I'm going to go up there and catch a few Natural games.
If they've not folded.
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on March 31, 2008, 03:48:59 pm
Starting Pitchers:
Adam Wainwright
Braden Looper
Kyle Lohse
Todd Wellemeyer
Brad Thompson
Now, that is one scary rotation right there.
Piniero?
Quote from: ASU Rugby on March 31, 2008, 03:53:39 pm
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on March 31, 2008, 03:48:59 pm
Starting Pitchers:
Adam Wainwright
Braden Looper
Kyle Lohse
Todd Wellemeyer
Brad Thompson
Now, that is one scary rotation right there.
Piniero?
DL
Now, our DL starters include:
Piniero
Carpenter
Mulder
Clement
ALBERT!!!!!!
Give our pitching 6 weeks and it will be a lot stronger.
From what I'm hearing the Royals possibly have a good future ahead of them if they can keep the talent around, kinda like the Rays.
Quote from: MikeDiesel? on March 31, 2008, 03:48:59 pm
Starting Pitchers:
Adam Wainwright
Braden Looper
Kyle Lohse
Todd Wellemeyer
Brad Thompson
Now, that is one scary rotation right there.
Hey, it could be worse. We could still have Kip Wells.
*shudders*
*shudders*
Don't forget that great acquistion of Mike Maroth ...
*shudders again*
Stupid rain......
Quote from: Footballer on March 31, 2008, 03:43:34 pm
Frick the Yankees.
frick you
i plan on attending my first yankees game this year
The Yankees are washed up .... for today, anyway.
Royals win and lead the AL Central !!!! (for now anyway ... until the White Sox-Indians game is over
This better be only a temporary delay ... not with a 5-1 lead right now.
Quote from: SouthpawSensation on March 31, 2008, 04:22:42 pm
Royals win and lead the AL Central !!!! (for now anyway ... until the White Sox-Indians game is over
w00t
Quote from: SouthpawSensation on March 31, 2008, 04:21:26 pm
The Yankees are washed up .... for today, anyway.
and why exactly are they washed up
Because their opening game day was rained out ...
Quote from: breadly on March 31, 2008, 04:20:24 pm
Quote from: Footballer on March 31, 2008, 03:43:34 pm
Frick the Yankees.
frick you
i plan on attending my first yankees game this year
You would like the Yankees.
The rain out fricked me over since Wang was scheduled to start.
FUKUDOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Down 3-0 in the bottom of the 9th, Eric Gagne gives up a single to Lee, walks Ramirez, and Kosuke rocks a 3 run bomb out to right center.
Fukudome was already 2-2 with a single, double and a walk. Baller.
And he got a curtain call.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 31, 2008, 03:19:01 pm
How many of you Braves fans have been to Turner Field for a game?
I have seen around 10 games there over the course of 4 different trips. But not in the past few years due to work issues.
I've been to Turner Field before when my family and i used to live in Atlanta.
However, final score in 10: Brewers 4, Cubs 3.
Already opening day, and the Cubs' magic number has dropped ...
Cubs lose! Cubs lose!
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 31, 2008, 04:19:23 pm
Stupid rain......
Got that right ... Rain wastes a great 5-1 lead.
Now we lose Wainwright until his next start.
Haters. Maybe the Cards can get above .500 this year.
Quote from: SMC on March 31, 2008, 06:10:32 pm
Haters. Maybe the Cards can get above .500 this year.
Perhaps the Cubs can actually get to a World Series. :)
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 31, 2008, 06:11:39 pm
Quote from: SMC on March 31, 2008, 06:10:32 pm
Haters. Maybe the Cards can get above .500 this year.
Perhaps the Cubs can actually get to a World Series. :)
You mean MLB will allow the Cubs to buy tickets in advance?
Bedard is having to work against the Rangers. At the pace he's going, he won't last past the 5th. Already 77 pitches through 3 innings.
Quote from: SMC on March 31, 2008, 05:24:01 pmFUKUDOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Down 3-0 in the bottom of the 9th, Eric Gagne gives up a single to Lee, walks Ramirez, and Kosuke rocks a 3 run bomb out to right center.
Fukudome was already 2-2 with a single, double and a walk. Baller.
I see where Eric Gagne is back to where he leftoff last year with Boston. What a relief that he's gone. It's hard to believe what's happened to him compared to a few years ago. He can't locate for crap and looks totally uncomfortable out there.
Quote from: RHS on March 31, 2008, 06:46:49 pm
Bedard is having to work against the Rangers. At the pace he's going, he won't last past the 5th. Already 77 pitches through 3 innings.
I know, not looking too good for him and fricking FSN in Jonesboro cut away from the M's game to go to a fricking Grizzlies game.
Quote from: dc24 on March 31, 2008, 06:57:19 pm
Quote from: RHS on March 31, 2008, 06:46:49 pm
Bedard is having to work against the Rangers. At the pace he's going, he won't last past the 5th. Already 77 pitches through 3 innings.
I know, not looking too good for him and fricking FSN in Jonesboro cut away from the M's game to go to a fricking Grizzlies game.
Another reason I wouldn't like living in eastern Arkansas.
Josh, after the official opening day of baseball, watch me shoot up to 1st in our FB group, Yankees Suck.
Quote from: RHS on March 31, 2008, 07:01:22 pmJosh, after the official opening day of baseball, watch me shoot up to 1st in our FB group, Yankees Suck.
You probably will. Saw where you had a good day. I didn't get hardly any points due to half my lineup having games that were rained out.
I'm guessing you're getting the M's game on FSN SW? I've been watching that and the Braves/Pirates.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on March 31, 2008, 07:08:42 pmYou probably will. Saw where you had a good day. I didn't get hardly any points due to half my lineup having games that were rained out.
I'm guessing you're getting the M's game on FSN SW? I've been watching that and the Braves/Pirates.
Yeah. I probably would have had even more if the Yankee game hadn't got rained out since Wang was supposed to go today. Oh well.
Yeah, getting M's vs Rangers. Bedard has only given up a couple hits, but he's given up a few walks. Rangers have been taking everything. Bedard might come out and pitch the 6th, but he's close to 100 pitches already.
Yes! Mariners take a 2-1 lead in the top of the 6th as Beltre beat a ball to first to keep from ending the inning.
Twins are looking good. We are up 3-2 right now. I am telling you guys, we will surprise quite a few people this year. We have a lot of young talent. Unfortunately, being in the AL and being in the Central on top of that we won't make the playoffs considering there are 2 legit WS title contenders in the Central and then you have the BoSox and NYY.
Mariner's starting to bust it open a little more. With 1 down in the 7th Johjima walked, Betancourt singled to move him up a bag. A wild pitched moved them both into scoring position and then they intentionally walked Ichiro to load the bases. Another wild pitch scored 1 and Lopez just doubled to bring 2 more in and we're still batting.
5-1.
May fault, was only one out.
And Lopez just got thrown out trying to steal 3rd.
Quote from: RHS on March 31, 2008, 08:16:35 pm
Mariner's starting to bust it open a little more. With 2 down in the 7th Johjima walked, Betancourt singled to move him up a bag. A wild pitched moved them both into scoring position and then they intentionally walked Ichiro to load the bases. Another wild pitch scored 1 and we just doubled to bring 2 more in and we're still batting.
5-1.
Yes!!!
Braves are down 5-4 to the Pirates. The relief pitchers have given up 3 runs in as many innings. Sound familiar?
I'm officially filing a protest over the merging of the Braves legit thread with this mess.
Where else does this happen? Do the GW vs SS or the GW vs. Harrison threads get merged? They only last a week or so and then new ones are started.
Now as a Brave fan I have to sift through crap about teams I have no interest in FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON just to chat with fellow Brave fans.
I didn't realize it was a problem.
Maybe next year we can have just one for the entire NCAA tournament and not have off shoots. Same for the NFL. Same for the Hogs football season.
End of rant. Not end of steam coming out of my ears.
Oh, make that 6 runs in 3 innings...
I'll assume RGP is talking about the Braves since I know he is a Braves fan, but in the future I'm going to ask everyone to post the teams, date and time so we can distinguish from the other 14 games or so that day.
Pittsburg is putting it to Atlanta 8-4 in the 8th inning. Relief pitching and defense for the Braves has been pathetic tonight. They have allowed them a lot of extra opportunites.
The Braves are also already up to 3 errors in two games (Personally, i think they should have 4).
Why isn't the Padres/Astros game on ESPN2? Is there a rain delay I don't know about?
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 31, 2008, 08:53:09 pmNow as a Brave fan I have to sift through crap about teams I have no interest in FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON just to chat with fellow Brave fans.
It's really not as big of a deal as you're making it out to be. In fact, it's not a big deal at all. RHS merged the threads because there were too many individual threads for teams. This thread is for all MLB talk. Do you not follow any baseball outside of Atlanta? Seems that if you're a much of a baseball fan you'd at least enjoy talking about other teams for a change. It's not that hard to just scan over other chatter of teams that you aren't as interested in.
WTH? Where is the Padres game?
Quote from: AB on March 31, 2008, 09:20:01 pmWhy isn't the Padres/Astros game on ESPN2? Is there a rain delay I don't know about?
I'm watching it on Extra Innings so it's not in a rain delay. I checked ESPN2 and it's blacked out so I'm assuming they're counting the Astros as a "local" team. How lame.
You know how far I am from Houston? lol
I freakn watched the Royals on ESPN earlier today.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 31, 2008, 09:24:01 pmYou know how far I am from Houston? lol
I'm even farther and they're still blacking it out here. It's ridiculous that it's blacked out on an ESPN2 telecast. They do this with the Astros and Rangers from time to time though.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on March 31, 2008, 09:21:52 pm
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 31, 2008, 08:53:09 pmNow as a Brave fan I have to sift through crap about teams I have no interest in FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON just to chat with fellow Brave fans.
It's really not as big of a deal as you're making it out to be. In fact, it's not a big deal at all. RHS merged the threads because there were too many individual threads for teams. This thread is for all MLB talk. Do you not follow any baseball outside of Atlanta? Seems that if you're a much of a baseball fan you'd at least enjoy talking about other teams for a change. It's not that hard to just scan over other chatter of teams that you aren't as interested in.
Are you kidding? We have a thread limit? How many are there on the NCAA tournament? How many are there about GW football?
Other threads die all the time. That one was alive and not harming a soul. I'll decide what I want to read.
It wasn't hurting anyone at all. I don't subscribe to Chop Talk to read about the Padres. It was a kneejerk reaction to some people having fun today. Nothing else.
I will be as mad as I choose to be.
5 in the 9th to tie 9-9 for the Braves..............
Escobar having a great game and Chipper & McCann with good clutch hits in the 9th.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 31, 2008, 09:55:43 pm
5 in the 9th to tie 9-9 for the Braves..............
Escobar having a great game and Chipper & McCann with good clutch hits in the 9th.
Can you put that in the Braves thread please?
I'll start a new one.
I was trying to find something someone said about NC and got a headache sorting through the threads for the NCAA tourney.
If anyone is still searching for the Astros/Padres game, I found it on channel 30. I have Cox Cable but it may be a different channel number for different parts of the state. It is the channel that shows Cardinals games all the time but isn't a normal channel any other time of the year.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on March 31, 2008, 09:24:01 pm
You know how far I am from Houston? lol
I freakn watched the Royals on ESPN earlier today.
That was only because the NYY were rained out so they picked up a feed from FSN.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 31, 2008, 09:55:43 pm
5 in the 9th to tie 9-9 for the Braves..............
Escobar having a great game and Chipper & McCann with good clutch hits in the 9th.
Talk about gift-wrapped. Pittsburg completely missed a fly ball with 2 outs that allowed 2 runs to score to tie the game. Gotta love Pirates baseball.
9-9 in the 11th
Quote from: AB on March 31, 2008, 10:02:55 pm
If anyone is still searching for the Astros/Padres game, I found it on channel 30. I have Cox Cable but it may be a different channel number for different parts of the state. It is the channel that shows Cardinals games all the time but isn't a normal channel any other time of the year.
Thanks man. It's on that channel here in Russellville too (Ch. 96). Usually it is blank but it carries FSN Midwest during Cardinals games. It is showing the Stros/Pads.
In my first awesome development in fantasy baseball, I had Xavier Nady on the bench as he went 4/7, scored 4 runs, hit 2 bombs and drove in 4.
One of my starting OF, Vernon Wells, had his game rained out against the Yankees.
Hooray.
We had our fantays baseball draft last Sunday. In the past week, I had Josh Fields(3B for the White Sox) and Jared Saltallamchia(Rangers C) get sent down to their AAA affiliate. In all the research I had done, and the magazines I had read or bought up to that point said nothing about Crede taking the starting 3B position from Fields who hit around 25 homers last year. Same for Salty. I hope their minor league stints aren't very long. If they are, no matter how good the rest of my team is, I am screwed.
In other fantasy baseball today, I picked up 3 wins today and maybe could have been more if Harang and Webb weren't going up against each other. At least Harang only gave up 2 runs and Webb got me a win so it wasn't that big of a deal.
Quote from: AB on March 31, 2008, 11:40:12 pm
We had our fantays baseball draft last Sunday. In the past week, I had Josh Fields(3B for the White Sox) and Jared Saltallamchia(Rangers C) get sent down to their AAA affiliate. In all the research I had done, and the magazines I had read or bought up to that point said nothing about Crede taking the starting 3B position from Fields who hit around 25 homers last year. Same for Salty. I hope their minor league stints aren't very long. If they are, no matter how good the rest of my team is, I am screwed.
In other fantasy baseball today, I picked up 3 wins today and maybe could have been more if Harang and Webb weren't going up against each other. At least Harang only gave up 2 runs and Webb got me a win so it wasn't that big of a deal.
I forgot to set my pitching even though I was on it this morning. Liriano was automatically in the starting position for some reason, and I forgot to change it. That is a waste of a position for one week. I didn't have Betancourt starting and he got a win and a strikeout in 1 inning. Carl Crawford, Delmon Young, and Chipper Jones have gotten me my most amount of points out of my starters.
Perhaps this could be the highlight of opening day ...
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/AuuwfTklRgq/Kansas+City+Royals+v+Detroit+Tigers/MUn1aodj_nH/Kirsten+Haglund
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 31, 2008, 09:29:31 pmHow many are there on the NCAA tournament?
As far as I know, one for the 1st round and 2nd round (they might have been combined), the Sweet 16, Elite 8 and Final 4. There will be one for the title game as well.
Quote from: RHS on April 01, 2008, 01:20:54 am
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 31, 2008, 09:29:31 pmHow many are there on the NCAA tournament?
As far as I know, one for the 1st round and 2nd round (they might have been combined), the Sweet 16, Elite 8 and Final 4. There will be one for the title game as well.
In all fairness, there were and will be separate threads for each game of the playoffs.
Quote from: SouthpawSensation on April 01, 2008, 12:24:21 am
Perhaps this could be the highlight of opening day ...
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/AuuwfTklRgq/Kansas+City+Royals+v+Detroit+Tigers/MUn1aodj_nH/Kirsten+Haglund
I'm impressed. I didn't know Miss America could throw a change-up.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 31, 2008, 03:19:01 pm
How many of you Braves fans have been to Turner Field for a game?
I have seen around 10 games there over the course of 4 different trips. But not in the past few years due to work issues.
I go every summer with my daughter - at least once, more when it works out. She has already been to two this year.
Quote from: jackfan1™ on April 01, 2008, 01:15:51 pmShe has already been to two this year.
How is that? The Braves played their home opener last night.
Quote from: jackfan1™ on April 01, 2008, 01:15:51 pm
Quote from: Quite Frankly on March 31, 2008, 03:19:01 pm
How many of you Braves fans have been to Turner Field for a game?
I have seen around 10 games there over the course of 4 different trips. But not in the past few years due to work issues.
I go every summer with my daughter - at least once, more when it works out. She has already been to two this year.
I've been a few times. Though, they do have a nice stadium, they made it entirely too big. You can have 40,000 people in there and it looks empty.
Their stadium is really nice. The jumbotron looks kind of funny since it is square.
I went on the tour last summer where you were taken to their locker room, both dugouts, the luxury suites, and got to go down to the field. When we got in the luxury suites some guy gave us free tickets and free passes to the sweet. Unfortunately we were leaving the next day so we weren't able to go.
It was nice when I went. Of course they lost to the Yankees so that was bad.
Camden Yard is the nicest stadium I've been to.
Quote from: RHS on April 01, 2008, 02:34:26 pmCamden Yard is the nicest stadium I've been to.
I've been to 7 different stadiums and The Ballpark at Arlington was the nicest. They will even let you bring in your own food and drinks, something no other stadiums will let you do that I know of. Touring the park was really cool.
Turner Field was built for the Olympics and transformed to a baseball afterwards.
The tour was really neat. But I won't snore you with details on this awesome thread about all the teams.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on April 01, 2008, 02:52:08 pm
Turner Field was built for the Olympics and transformed to a baseball afterwards.
The tour was really neat. But I won't snore you with details on this awesome thread about all the teams.
And the old field was where the parking lot is now.
Metrodme is the best ball park. :) It is soon to be the 2nd best one behind the new Twins ball park.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 01, 2008, 02:41:33 pm
Quote from: RHS on April 01, 2008, 02:34:26 pmCamden Yard is the nicest stadium I've been to.
I've been to 7 different stadiums and The Ballpark at Arlington was the nicest. They will even let you bring in your own food and drinks, something no other stadiums will let you do that I know of. Touring the park was really cool.
Haven't been there, though I had the chance. I really wish I would have taken dads offer and gone to a Brewer's game last summer. We'll probably hit up one or two game son vacation this year so that'll be 2 more stadiums for me.
Quote from: RHS on April 01, 2008, 03:08:43 pmQuote from: msubulldogs21 on April 01, 2008, 02:41:33 pmQuote from: RHS on April 01, 2008, 02:34:26 pmCamden Yard is the nicest stadium I've been to.
I've been to 7 different stadiums and The Ballpark at Arlington was the nicest. They will even let you bring in your own food and drinks, something no other stadiums will let you do that I know of. Touring the park was really cool.
Haven't been there, though I had the chance. I really wish I would have taken dads offer and gone to a Brewer's game last summer. We'll probably hit up one or two game son vacation this year so that'll be 2 more stadiums for me.
In a little over 3 months I will be able to cross Fenway off my list. :)
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on April 01, 2008, 09:51:28 am
Quote from: SouthpawSensation on April 01, 2008, 12:24:21 am
Perhaps this could be the highlight of opening day ...
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/AuuwfTklRgq/Kansas+City+Royals+v+Detroit+Tigers/MUn1aodj_nH/Kirsten+Haglund
I'm impressed. I didn't know Miss America could throw a change-up.
Do you think it was a straight change or a circle change? :D
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 01, 2008, 03:20:12 pmIn a little over 3 months I will be able to cross Fenway off my list. :)
Out of the 3 most historic ballparks, Fenway came in 2nd for me. Wrigley was tops in that list with yankee stadium finishing 3rd.
Josh, the Ballpark at Arlington was sweet. Good one, I tend to forget I was even there.
Ballpark in Arlington = top notch
Fenway is a dump on the inside but full of history.
You want to go see a dump, go catch a game at the Oakland Coliseum.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on April 01, 2008, 02:52:08 pm
But I won't snore you with details on this awesome thread about all the teams.
How's that horse?
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 01, 2008, 05:07:13 pm
You want to go see a dump, go catch a game at the Oakland Coliseum.
Amen to that brotha.
Quote from: HA_Fan™ on April 01, 2008, 05:10:42 pm
Quote from: Quite Frankly on April 01, 2008, 02:52:08 pm
But I won't snore you with details on this awesome thread about all the teams.
How's that horse?
Full tummy and nap about to be taken.
As for the Braves, 0-2 in one run games already. Last year was a similar issue.
But so many people are picking them to goto the world series.
Pick a NL team yourself then.
Quote from: DVR on April 01, 2008, 05:38:08 pm
Right now I would have to go with the Mets.
Wow. Watch a reach there. One of the 2 highest payrolls in the NL. My dog picked them too.
But later I guess you'll change after the All-Star break since you qualified it.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on April 01, 2008, 05:39:06 pm
Quote from: DVR on April 01, 2008, 05:38:08 pm
Right now I would have to go with the Mets.
Wow. Watch a reach there. One of the 2 highest payrolls in the NL. My dog picked them too.
But later I guess you'll change after the All-Star break since you qualified it.
Brave fan attacking another. Didn't think I would ever see it.
That's an attack? Man I've gone soft then. If that's a real Braves fan then we don't need him.
Relief is def an issue. Glavine as a 3rd starter is far better than average.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on April 01, 2008, 05:43:58 pmGlavine as a 3rd starter is far better than average.
I agree, but how much can you count on a 42 year to deliver before he breaks down?
See, you can talk Brave baseball on this thread. No need for a new one.
Stop it. Right now. I did so in the new spirit. I will refrain at this time from further comment except to say if everyone else will quit talking about the other teams on this thread then that would be okay with me. ;)
Quote from: DVR on April 01, 2008, 05:48:55 pm
I'm not a Braves fan. I have nothing against them though. Personally I'm a Cardinals man, but I also know that the people running the team are lost and the franchise is going absolutely nowhere. Sad, really, that the organization is so uncommitted to winning these days.
I like both.
And wrong again Kurt, he's not a Braves fan. I think you're due for an eye exam. :-X
Quote from: Quite Frankly on April 01, 2008, 05:50:13 pmAnd wrong again Kurt, he's not a Braves fan. I think you're due for an eye exam. :-X
A little off on the name and I probably do need to go back to the eye doctor.
I forget my (sic) RHS.
Braves won't lose tonight. Bet on it.
Getting ready to watch the Yankees/Blue Jays opener. After getting through 10 minutes of Michael Kay narrating sappy Yankees garbage, I think we are finally going to get around to actually playing baseball.
Go Jays!
Last season the Cardinals were just a couple starters in the rotation away from being in the playoffs. We were 56-3 when leading after 6. All we have to do this season is hope we don't have a Kip Wells ( who is on the hook for a loss against the Cards tonight ironicly) and get average starting pitching for the first two months until we can Mulder and Carpenter back.
And then pray Milwaukee doesn't play like they did last season, and the Cubs are them usual selves and find a way to play way under their potential and collapse sometime in August or Septemeber.
Good game out in Oakland. The Red Sox and A's are tied 1-1 in the 6th.
Dice-K and Joe Blanton are both pitching well.
I have Blanton in one league. I'd like for him to do well but not get the win.
Jason Varitek just got freaking screwed! He hit a ball that was over the yellow line in RF, yet they credited him with only a double.
2-1 Sox. I'm gonna be really pi.ssed off if that run comes back to haunt us.
Quote from: RHS on April 01, 2008, 10:41:33 pm
I have Blanton in one league. I'd like for him to do well but not get the win.
I love seein his name on the bottom line on any of the ESPN channels.
When it comes up and says something to this regard...
J. Blanton(OAK) - 7.1 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 6 K
I like to pretend it is actually me they are putting up there. It is even better when I'm at a friends house and I see his name after a good performance, or even a bad one for that matter, and say "Looks like I pitched another gem tonight" or "looks like I got rocked tonight" and it takes them a second but they catch on if they know anything about baseball.
You need to buy his jersey, Justin.
Just like I need to buy Troy Williamson of the Vikings'.
I want to. At the very least, a T-Jersey. I don't think Joe Blanton is a hot commodity in the replica jersey world, except maybe in Oakland.
Of course, if he has another good year this season, he and Harden won't be A's very much longer if Billy Beane hods true to his usualy offseason form.
Some really good late night games out on the west coast tonight.
Boston 2, Oakland 1 - 9th
San Diego 2, Houston 1 - 8th
Texas 2, Seattle 1 - 8th
LA 2, San Fran 1 - 7th
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 01, 2008, 11:37:00 pmBoston 2, Oakland 1 - 9th
Red Sox win 2-1. The best closer in baseball struck out the side in the 9th. :)
Bad news for the Mets as Pedro may have torn a hammie.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 02, 2008, 12:21:51 am
Bad news for the Mets as Pedro may have torn a hammie.
Ahhhhh ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Pedro just needs to hang 'em up. He is turning into the Ken Griffey Jr. of pitchers. Once the most feared and dominating pitcher in the game. Now a string of season ending injuries. He'll still have HOF numbers, but still some questions of "what if" now that he can't seem to get past his first couple of starts in a season without sustaining a season ender.
he's just hittin a rough patch
Quote from: suspended on April 02, 2008, 01:13:59 am
he's just hittin a rough patch
If it is a hammy tear, that's a big rough patch. He was only able to start 23 games in 2006 and finished 9-8. Last year he was only in 5 games. If he is out for a majority of this year, his numbers won't be any better. He's getting older.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 02, 2008, 12:21:51 am
Bad news for the Mets as Pedro may have torn a hammie.
Good news for Braves fans.
Gah, I hate huge threads like these. Too much to reply to.
That's why I quit/got kicked off of Hogville.
Does it really hurt to have a Braves thread? Or in the 2-3 days I was gone did everyone post a thread about every team?
There is a Braves thread. It's been stickied.
And locked.
Hm. That's odd.
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on April 02, 2008, 10:47:57 am
Hm. That's odd.
...and restrictive. This is a board where we can post whatever we want, right? Or just about?
Quote from: WBF † on April 02, 2008, 10:49:45 am
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on April 02, 2008, 10:47:57 am
Hm. That's odd.
...and restrictive. This is a board where we can post whatever we want, right? Or just about?
Yep, unless it violates the TOS. Or if the thread is locked.
Open now, not sure what your talking about.
Don't see what is wrong with a season long thread anyway. We did half a season for the NCAA teams not named Arkansas and it worked fine.
No that NCAA thread started in November, we went all season with it and it was fine.
In other news the Tigers KILLED me today. With three hits in a loss to Kansas City (none of the hits were from the guys on my fantasy team).
Red Sox just beat the A's 5-0. Dice-K pitched a gem last night and Jon Lester topped him today, throwing 6 2/3 of shutout baseball.
Nice 3-1 start to the season.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 02, 2008, 05:40:04 pm
Red Sox just beat the A's 5-0. Dice-K pitched a gem last night and Jon Lester topped him today, throwing 6 2/3 of shutout baseball.
Nice 3-1 start to the season.
Who cares? They have all the money. They should never lose.
Quote from: RHS on April 02, 2008, 02:55:31 pm
Don't see what is wrong with a season long thread anyway. We did half a season for the NCAA teams not named Arkansas and it worked fine.
I guess we will have to do "The 2008 Non-Braves MLB Thread" and then a new braves thread can be started each week.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on April 02, 2008, 05:50:16 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 02, 2008, 05:40:04 pm
Red Sox just beat the A's 5-0. Dice-K pitched a gem last night and Jon Lester topped him today, throwing 6 2/3 of shutout baseball.
Nice 3-1 start to the season.
Who cares? They have all the money. They should never lose.
Having all the money and should never lose would still be the yankees
I guess this could go on the official Braves thread. But I am confused since it involves two MLB teams and so I am going to put it on here.
I got a bit of a surprise today. Sort of. I was kind of aware it was going to happen. But my dad got us tickets to a three game series, June 17-19. The Braves will be traveling to Arlington to play the Rangers.
Can't wait. Haven't been able to see the Braves play in quite a few years now. The Ballpark in Arlington is also very nice and one of my favorites out of the ones I've been to.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on April 02, 2008, 05:50:16 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 02, 2008, 05:40:04 pm
Red Sox just beat the A's 5-0. Dice-K pitched a gem last night and Jon Lester topped him today, throwing 6 2/3 of shutout baseball.
Nice 3-1 start to the season.
Who cares? They have all the money. They should never lose.
Do you really believe that? I sure hope not. It takes quite a bit more than just money to win a World Series. If all it took was money the Yankees and Mets would obviously be in the WS every year. And believe it or not, the Tigers have more money than Boston as well. The Red Sox just happen to be the best run organization, top to bottom, in baseball. Players WANT to go there and play for them. Heck, they take paycuts just to stay there. I don't care if you hate us or not, but saying we have money and therefore should never lose is a pretty weak statement. Everyone has money. Some more than others, but everyone has it. Some just refuse to spend it. Others spend and don't have a clue what they're doing. Boston, on the other hand, has it and knows what to do with it, which is why we have won 2 of the last 4 World Series titles.
Easy big fella.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 02, 2008, 06:56:06 pm
Quote from: Quite Frankly on April 02, 2008, 05:50:16 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 02, 2008, 05:40:04 pm
Red Sox just beat the A's 5-0. Dice-K pitched a gem last night and Jon Lester topped him today, throwing 6 2/3 of shutout baseball.
Nice 3-1 start to the season.
Who cares? They have all the money. They should never lose.
Do you really believe that? I sure hope not. It takes quite a bit more than just money to win a World Series. If all it took was money the Yankees and Mets would obviously be in the WS every year. And believe it or not, the Tigers have more money than Boston as well. The Red Sox just happen to be the best run organization, top to bottom, in baseball. Players WANT to go there and play for them. Heck, they take paycuts just to stay there. I don't care if you hate us or not, but saying we have money and therefore should never lose is a pretty weak statement. Everyone has money. Some more than others, but everyone has it. Some just refuse to spend it. Others spend and don't have a clue what they're doing. Boston, on the other hand, has it and knows what to do with it, which is why we have won 2 of the last 4 World Series titles.
very nicely put
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 02, 2008, 05:40:04 pm
Red Sox just beat the A's 5-0. Dice-K pitched a gem last night and Jon Lester topped him today, throwing 6 2/3 of shutout baseball.
Nice 3-1 start to the season.
Double birthday for me. Sox win and Lester got me some good points.
When will it start...?
Quote from: Quite Frankly on April 02, 2008, 07:04:01 pm
Easy big fella.
...And then, as I watched him struggling, I realized that something was obstructing its breathing. From where I was standing, I could see directly into the eye of the great fish."
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 02, 2008, 11:48:04 pm
Quote from: Quite Frankly on April 02, 2008, 07:04:01 pm
Easy big fella.
...And then, as I watched him struggling, I realized that something was obstructing its breathing. From where I was standing, I could see directly into the eye of the great fish."
mammal.
Quote from: RHS on April 02, 2008, 11:50:49 pm
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 02, 2008, 11:48:04 pm
Quote from: Quite Frankly on April 02, 2008, 07:04:01 pm
Easy big fella.
...And then, as I watched him struggling, I realized that something was obstructing its breathing. From where I was standing, I could see directly into the eye of the great fish."
mammal.
Whateva.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 02, 2008, 11:51:23 pm
Quote from: RHS on April 02, 2008, 11:50:49 pm
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 02, 2008, 11:48:04 pm
Quote from: Quite Frankly on April 02, 2008, 07:04:01 pm
Easy big fella.
...And then, as I watched him struggling, I realized that something was obstructing its breathing. From where I was standing, I could see directly into the eye of the great fish."
mammal.
Whateva.
Is that a Titleist?
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 01, 2008, 01:41:50 pm
Quote from: jackfan1™ on April 01, 2008, 01:15:51 pmShe has already been to two this year.
How is that? The Braves played their home opener last night.
We went last Friday for one of their last 'pre-season games' against the Cleveland Indians, then went on Monday for the home opener against the Pirates...both of which we lost. :( At least the opener proved to be a fun, engaging game towards the end! I make it a point to go to at least one game a week when I have the time off from work/school...I absolutely love the Braves!
Court, you seem to be bad luck this season. You should stay away.
Or go to more games...... :)
I've got a question. The cardinals first game of the year was postponed. They were in the second inning with the cards up 5-1. Do they make that game up at that score, start a new one, or what? I thought they just made it up in the same situation but I have a friend arguing with me.
Quote from: hogsfan4life on April 03, 2008, 03:14:04 pm
I've got a question. The cardinals first game of the year was postponed. They were in the second inning with the cards up 5-1. Do they make that game up at that score, start a new one, or what? I thought they just made it up in the same situation but I have a friend arguing with me.
It was as if those innings never happened. The game was re-started on Tuesday and we lost 2-1.
By all means go to more games. I don't wanna see ATL anywhere near the playoffs.
BTW the Cubs offense has finally come out of hibernation and we are stealing bases all over Jason Kendall's worthless az. Reminds me of why I celebrated when he left us for the Beermakers. ARam even got me a homer to help in fantasy.
Break up the Royals. They finished off a sweep of the Tigers in Detroit today 4-1.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 03, 2008, 03:36:37 pm
Break up the Royals. They finished off a sweep of the Tigers in Detroit today 4-1.
Killed my fantasy team. But I like the Royals so its ok.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 03, 2008, 03:38:18 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 03, 2008, 03:36:37 pm
Break up the Royals. They finished off a sweep of the Tigers in Detroit today 4-1.
Killed my fantasy team. But I like the Royals so its ok.
I could have had even a better night in our fantasy league if I could have found a spot for Ty Wiggington last night.
And speaking of FB, thank you Tori Hunter for finally doing somerthing.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 03, 2008, 03:15:03 pm
Quote from: hogsfan4life on April 03, 2008, 03:14:04 pm
I've got a question. The cardinals first game of the year was postponed. They were in the second inning with the cards up 5-1. Do they make that game up at that score, start a new one, or what? I thought they just made it up in the same situation but I have a friend arguing with me.
It was as if those innings never happened. The game was re-started on Tuesday and we lost 2-1.
Well thats stupid, not really fair either.
Quote from: hogsfan4life on April 03, 2008, 04:31:55 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 03, 2008, 03:15:03 pm
Quote from: hogsfan4life on April 03, 2008, 03:14:04 pm
I've got a question. The cardinals first game of the year was postponed. They were in the second inning with the cards up 5-1. Do they make that game up at that score, start a new one, or what? I thought they just made it up in the same situation but I have a friend arguing with me.
It was as if those innings never happened. The game was re-started on Tuesday and we lost 2-1.
Well thats stupid, not really fair either.
It's the rules. If you had made it through 5 innings you would have been given a win.
Keep an eye on Johnny Cueto, a rookie pitcher for the Reds. Today against the D-Backs, in his first MLB outing, he pitched 7 innings and was perfect through 5. His only hit was a solo shot to Justin Upton to lead off the 6th. He ended up with 10 K's on the day in the win. He pitched real well during spring training, then came out and shoved today to exceed all expectations.
Only 2 MLB games going on tonight. I'm currently watching the Yankees/Blue Jays.
Frank Thomas just got rung up on a very questionable 3-2 pitch stranding a runner at 3rd and he let the ump have it and got tossed. You could read his lips as to exactly what he said. He had a point though -the ump called the same pitch a ball several times in the AB, then called it strike 3 on the full count.
Blue Jays up 1-0 in the 5th.
Quote from: RHS on April 03, 2008, 01:40:49 pm
Court, you seem to be bad luck this season. You should stay away.
I can't
not go...the atmosphere, tailgating, the game itself, and Francoeur just keep me coming back :) Plus, I promised Francoeur when I met him back in January that I'd be at all the games cheerin' him on and checkin' him out! ;)
lol @ the Tigers.
Lost to the White Sox 8-5 today and are still the only team in the majors without a win. On the other hand, the Royals are the only remaining undefeated team at 3-0.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 04, 2008, 03:44:21 pm
On the other hand, the Royals are the only remaining undefeated team at 3-0.
Head to the fall out shelter, the apocalypse is nigh!
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 04, 2008, 03:47:27 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 04, 2008, 03:44:21 pm
On the other hand, the Royals are the only remaining undefeated team at 3-0.
Head to the fall out shelter, the apocalypse is nigh!
It can't be all bad, RM ... the Cubs lost again, and that magic number dropped once more!!!!!
The Twins knock off the previously undefeated KC Royls 4-3. Carlos Gomez, Torii Hunter's replacement, is looking like a stud so far. He is batting .450 on the season. He stole twice today giving him 4 stolen bases in 4 games.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on April 04, 2008, 10:15:29 pmCarlos Gomez stole twice today giving him 4 stolen bases in 4 games.
That is Darren Ford-esque.
Quote from: RHS on April 04, 2008, 10:23:14 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on April 04, 2008, 10:15:29 pmCarlos Gomez stole twice today giving him 4 stolen bases in 4 games.
That is Darren Ford-esque.
lol...but not quite as good as Ford. He hasn't quite reached that talent level yet right?
Darren is obviously the next Jose Reyes or Carl Crawford.
Cardinals won 5-4 tonight bringing the record to 3-1. A much better start than the 0-4 of last year.
Screw Melky Cabrera for not starting, AGAIN, and taking up a spot on my fantasy team.
Dang yankees.
Good game between Cubs and Astros on FSN. Tied at 5 in the 7th as the Cubs have rallied from a 3 run deficit that initially caused me to turn the TV off.
The Twins are up 3-2 on KC in the 6th.
Cubbies now up 8-5 in the 8th.
Cubs win 9-7. Nice comeback to avoid a 1-4 start to the season.
Cardinals improve to 4-1 with another 5-4 victory over the Nats.
Quote from: Ken Griffey Jr. on April 03, 2008, 05:43:28 pm
Keep an eye on Johnny Cueto, a rookie pitcher for the Reds. Today against the D-Backs, in his first MLB outing, he pitched 7 innings and was perfect through 5. His only hit was a solo shot to Justin Upton to lead off the 6th. He ended up with 10 K's on the day in the win. He pitched real well during spring training, then came out and shoved today to exceed all expectations.
his impressive first start doesn't mean anything.
The Twins beat KC again by a score of 6-4. They improve to 3-3.
Tigers blow a 3-0 lead today and Dontrelle Willis lost his no hitter in the 6th. The White Sox came back and won 5-3. Hard to believe Detroit has started the season 0-5, especially with all the games at home so far.
No team has ever won the World Series after starting 0-4. I'm not counting out the Tigers, but I can't believe they have dropped their first 5. They have a great lineup, 1-9. However, the pitching drops off greatly after Verlander.
Bonderman has become a big disapointment. Its sad because he is such a good guy.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 05, 2008, 07:13:04 pm
Tigers blow a 3-0 lead today and Dontrelle Willis lost his no hitter in the 6th.
Frick frick double frick.
I <3 Kyle Lohse. 7 scoreless innings and only 4 hits and 1 walk.
Meanwhile, the Cardinals just put their third run up on the board. 3-0 Redbirds going into the 9th inning.
EDIT: What a catch by Ankiel!! To go with his double and home run. Great day by him.
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Tobin you beat me to it.
BREAK OUT THE BROOMS!
Cubs back to .500 taking the series from Houston.
Brewers and Cards are 5-1 so that is putting some early pressure on.
Quote from: SMC on April 06, 2008, 03:54:35 pm
Cubs back to .500 taking the series from Houston.
Brewers and Cards are 5-1 so that is putting some early pressure on.
I hope all three of us have good winning seasons to put to bed the "Central Division is so weak" talk.
The Central is actually looking good so far. Even Houston looks better than I thought they would be.
Cubs go to Pittsburgh next so we'll see if the Pirates have improved any.
Quote from: SMC on April 06, 2008, 03:58:29 pm
The Central is actually looking good so far. Even Houston looks better than I thought they would be.
Cubs go to Pittsburgh next so we'll see if the Pirates have improved any.
I watched their series with the Marlins. They have fight but not a lot of pitching.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 06, 2008, 04:00:17 pm
Quote from: SMC on April 06, 2008, 03:58:29 pm
The Central is actually looking good so far. Even Houston looks better than I thought they would be.
Cubs go to Pittsburgh next so we'll see if the Pirates have improved any.
I watched their series with the Marlins. They have fight but not a lot of pitching.
Their pitcher did fine today going, I think, 7 innings and fanning 10.
Quote from: RHS on April 06, 2008, 04:07:31 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 06, 2008, 04:00:17 pm
Quote from: SMC on April 06, 2008, 03:58:29 pm
The Central is actually looking good so far. Even Houston looks better than I thought they would be.
Cubs go to Pittsburgh next so we'll see if the Pirates have improved any.
I watched their series with the Marlins. They have fight but not a lot of pitching.
Their pitcher did fine today going, I think, 7 innings and fanning 10.
I said not a lot, not "none". :)
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 06, 2008, 03:56:49 pm
Quote from: SMC on April 06, 2008, 03:54:35 pm
Cubs back to .500 taking the series from Houston.
Brewers and Cards are 5-1 so that is putting some early pressure on.
I hope all three of us have good winning seasons to put to bed the "Central Division is so weak" talk.
Considering the Central has produced three of the past four NL champions, it's a very weak argument anyway. But whatever. :)
I haven't seen any Red Sox updates lately.
I wonder why? ;D
Quote from: Infamous on April 06, 2008, 05:51:33 pm
I haven't seen any Red Sox updates lately.
I wonder why? ;D
Bah. I'm not hiding. Just haven't been around a computer today to post.
But anyway, I'm really not all that surprised that we've gotten off to a slow start. I've had a lot of questions all along, mainly about the rotation. After Beckett and Dice-K who knows what you're going to get (and Dice-K can be erratic at times). Wake is hit and miss, Lester is inconsistent, and Buchholz is an inexperienced rookie. So yeah, not good. I'll wait and see if we can get things going, but I'm not so sure how good we really are. I guess we'll see.
Haven't almost every team thats gone to Japan started the season slow?
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 06, 2008, 06:19:25 pm
Haven't almost every team thats gone to Japan started the season slow?
Yes, they have, which is another reason I hated that god-forsaken trip. Back in '04 when the Yankees went there they had a losing April. I'm not going to use that as an excuse though. We need to start playing better.
Quote from: AB on April 06, 2008, 02:44:32 am
No team has ever won the World Series after starting 0-4. I'm not counting out the Tigers, but I can't believe they have dropped their first 5. They have a great lineup, 1-9. However, the pitching drops off greatly after Verlander.
"Drops off greatly". What a ridiculous statement. Kenny Rogers, Nate Robertson, Jeremy Bonderman and Dontrelle Willis are at worst good. The Tigers' pitching doesn't drop off greatly after Verlander.
Quote from: suspended on April 06, 2008, 09:45:17 pm
Quote from: AB on April 06, 2008, 02:44:32 am
No team has ever won the World Series after starting 0-4. I'm not counting out the Tigers, but I can't believe they have dropped their first 5. They have a great lineup, 1-9. However, the pitching drops off greatly after Verlander.
"Drops off greatly". What a ridiculous statement. Kenny Rogers, Nate Robertson, Jeremy Bonderman and Dontrelle Willis are at worst good. The Tigers' pitching doesn't drop off greatly after Verlander.
Your a moron. There is a pretty big gap between Verlander and the rest of the rotation.
Kenny Rogers is old and had one fluke season two years ago.
Dontrelle Willis is at best "good". In all reality he has gotten worse since his rookie year in Florida.
What have Bonderman and Robertson done other than good seasons two years ago when they made it to the World Series?
Yes, Verlander has been the only consistent pitcher in the rotation the last two seasons. The others(minus Willis)were one year wonders in 2006.
Just stick to posting about the Braves, because you apparently no nothing else about baseball.
Has he been posting about the Braves too?
I thought he was a Braves fan. I guess I'm wrong about that judging by your reaction.
I didn't think so, but he might be. As you know the original thread(s) didn't stay up for me to review.
But you could be correct.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on April 06, 2008, 10:03:10 pm
I didn't think so, but he might be. As you know the original thread(s) didn't stay up for me to review.
But you could be correct.
What threads? ;)
Quote from: AB on April 06, 2008, 09:55:30 pm
Kenny Rogers is old and a cheater and had one fluke season two years ago.
Fixed.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 06, 2008, 10:06:02 pm
Quote from: AB on April 06, 2008, 09:55:30 pm
Kenny Rogers is old and a cheater and had one fluke season two years ago.
Fixed.
Thanks. I completely forgot about the foreign substance on the baseball cap during that 2006 postseason.
Quote from: AB on April 06, 2008, 10:08:04 pm
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 06, 2008, 10:06:02 pm
Quote from: AB on April 06, 2008, 09:55:30 pm
Kenny Rogers is old and a cheater and had one fluke season two years ago.
Fixed.
Thanks. I completely forgot about the foreign substance on the baseball cap during that 2006 postseason.
It would have been a Cardinal sweep otherwise.
I think that first one i started is absorbed in the body of this one.
Yeah, and as hard as it is for me to swallow that thought, it is true. I think that entire team(especially and mainly the pitching staff other than Verlander)has since shown they were one year wonders.
Then again if the 2008 version of the Detroit Tigers don't turn things around they could be one of the biggest dissapointments in MLB history. Another loss tonight at the hands of the White Sox. 13-2.
The Tigers start off 0-6, being swept at home by the lowly Royals and White Sox.
Quote from: AB on April 06, 2008, 10:08:04 pm
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 06, 2008, 10:06:02 pm
Quote from: AB on April 06, 2008, 09:55:30 pm
Kenny Rogers is old and a cheater and had one fluke season two years ago.
Fixed.
Thanks. I completely forgot about the foreign substance on the baseball cap during that 2006 postseason.
Yeah, but it didn't make that much of a difference. He still shoved even after they made him wash it off. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it on his hand instead of his hat?
I don't really re-call, but it seems he said he didn't realize it was on his hand. But I do think it was on his hand and not his hat now that you mention it.
Quote from: AB on April 06, 2008, 10:17:25 pm
The Tigers start off 0-6, being swept at home by the lowly Royals and White Sox.
We've got them in our home opening series starting Tuesday. Hope we continue to keep them down, but you know their offense is going to catch fire sometime soon. It's too good not to.
What are you guys talking about. It was clay wasn't it? Cardinal fans just like to make excuses.
Here's where things stand after one week of play.
AL East
Orioles 4-1
Blue Jays 4-2
Rays 3-2
Yankees 3-3
Red Sox 3-4
AL Central
White Sox 4-2
Royals 4-2
Indians 3-3
Twins 3-4
Tigers 0-6
AL West
Angels 4-3
Rangers 3-3
A's 3-4
Mariners 2-4
NL East
Braves 3-3
Marlins 3-3
Nationals 3-4
Mets 2-3
Phillies 2-4
NL Central
Brewers 5-1
Cardinals 5-1
Reds 4-2
Cubs 3-3
Pirates 3-3
Astros 2-5
NL West
D-Backs 4-2
Dodgers 4-2
Padres 4-3
Rockies 1-5
Giants 1-5
Obviously some surprise starts, good and bad. Red Sox and Yankees bringing up the rear of the AL East. Orioles off to a 4-1 start. Blue Jays looking very good. The AL East may prove to be toughest division this season. If Burnett can stay healthy for the Blue Jays, then Toronto may be able to hang very tough and keep pace with Boston and New York most, if not all, of the season. AL Central looks backwards, with the Royals and White Sox at the top, both sweeping the Tigers at Detroit. The Tigers are obviously the biggest dissapiontment so far. NL Central looking surprisingly strong right now. Atlanta could very well be undefeated right now. The games they lost they were in until the very end, and had a chance to win them all. Right now the Atlanta bullpen has been questionable at best. If they can sure that up, there isn't any reason they shouldn't make the playoffs and a run at winning the NL East once again.
With all of that said, it is very early in the season. While you can have a good feeling about how your team looks, it is pretty foolish to put any stock into anyone's start thus far, good or bad.
AL East
1. Red Sox
2. Yankees
3. Orioles
4. Rays
5. Blue Jays
AL Central
1. Tigers
2. IWhite Sox
3. Indians
4. Royals
5. Twins
AL West
1. Angels
2. Mariners
3. Rangers
4. A's
AL Wild Card
White Sox
NL East
1. Mets
2. Phillies
3. Nationals
4. Braves
5. Marlins
NL Central
1. Cubs
2. Cards
3. Brewers
4. Astros
5. Reds
6. Pirates
NL West
1. Rockies
2. Dodgers
3. Diamondbacks
4. Padres
5. Giants
NL Wild Card
Dodgers
Quote from: Quite Frankly on April 06, 2008, 09:58:22 pm
Has he been posting about the Braves too?
yes i'm a Braves fan
Welcome to the club. It takes all kinds.
Cubs win 10-8 over the Pirates in 12 innings. What a game.
What a finish in the Angels/Indians game. Torii Hunter hit a go ahead homer in the bottom of the 8th to put LA up 2-1, then Cleveland got 3 in the 9th to lead 4-2. In the bottom of the 9th Hunter hit a walk off grand slam to give the Angels a 6-4 win. Unbelievable performance by Torii.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 08, 2008, 12:14:49 am
What a finish in the Angels/Indians game. Torii Hunter hit a go ahead homer in the bottom of the 8th to put LA up 2-1, then Cleveland got 3 in the 9th to lead 4-2. In the bottom of the 9th Hunter hit a walk off grand slam to give the Angels a 6-4 win. Unbelievable performance by Torii.
YES. MAJOR POINTS FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 144 points gained tonight in one league. Hunter gets me 39 by himself.
Rockies finally win their second game 2-1 but they still only have 12 runs in 6 games :(
Hunter's blast helped me do wonders in a Yahoo public fantasy league.
I went from middle of the pack to first place with an 8-point lead, thanks to that blast.
Thought it was great to see Bill Buckner throw out the first pitch for the Red Sox home opener yesterday. He got a standing O and got pretty emotional on the mound and in an interview after the game.
Boston won 5-0 and Detroit dropped to 0-7.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 09, 2008, 12:48:42 pm
Thought it was great to see Bill Buckner throw out the first pitch for the Red Sox home opener yesterday. He got a standing O and got pretty emotional on the mound and in an interview after the game.
Boston won 5-0 and Detroit dropped to 0-7.
Was a good jesture, but why did it take so freakin long?
They had to wait long enough to win a ring or two to soften the hardcore fans.
They had to win a championship before they could bury that hatchet. Or else they would have always looked at him as the one who screwed it up that time they got the closest.
The Twins are up 7-0 in the 3rd on the AL Central leading White Sox. Carlos Gomez (Torii's replacement) is playing great so far this season. He came up big with a two out double to bring in 2 runs. He is batting .343 on the season with 5 stolen bases, a couple RBIs, and 5 runs.
The Cubs and Pirates are tied 4-4 in the top of the 15th in the longest game so far this season. Chicago has the bases loaded with 2 outs.
Josh, how does it feel being the only team to lose to Detroit this season?
In all seriousness, I am surprised it took them this long because they are very talented. I was enjoying their struggles though. I was hoping Boston could extend that losing streak.
Hate to see us lose to anyone, I don't care who it is. But you know Detroit it way too good of a team to stay down this long. I still think they're going to get hot here pretty soon. The offense will come alive.
I'm ready for the Sox/Yanks series this weekend.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 09, 2008, 10:20:15 pm
Hate to see us lose to anyone, I don't care who it is. But you know Detroit it way too good of a team to stay down this long. I still think they're going to get hot here pretty soon. The offense will come alive.
I'm ready for the Sox/Yanks series this weekend.
Yea, I could see them being a "story" at the end of the season. From 0-7 to winning the AL Central or something like that. I hope not though. They do have a ton of talent though. My preseason prediction for the WS was Detroit/Cleveland vs Mets.
Nice to see the Mariners win 2 in a row against the Rays after being swept by the Orioles. Hopefully we can sweep the Rays tomorrow and get back to .500 before starting a huge series with the Angels.
5 wins in a row for the Cubs after a road sweep of the Pirates.
Cubs, Cards and Brew Crew all tied in the loss column.
Should be a fun race in the Central.
This is going to be a fun summer of baseball.
AL Central > NL Central
NL East>NL West>NL Central ;D
If I was filling out a lineup of NL players only I would probably take all players from the East, plus Pujols. In this case though I would use a DH. I guess I would have to take a couple of outfielders from other divisions by default. If I could I would move some other NL East players to the outfield. Rollins has the speed and glove to play the OF. Chipper could play the OF as well.
SS Jose Reyes/Jimmy Rollins
2B Chase Utley
1B Albert Pujols/Mark Teixeira
DH Ryan Howard
OF Carlos Beltran
3B David Wright/Ryan Zimmerman/Chipper
OF Matt Holliday
C Brian McCann
OF Jason Bay/Ken Griffey(when healthy)
The NL West is where pitching reigns supreme in the Senior Circuit. After Santana of course.
Santana
Peavy
Webb
Sheets
Pedro(when healthy)
Harang/Hamels
Smoltz/Zambrano
Wagner
Let's keep the fun going.
AL
OF Ichiro/Crawford
SS Jeter
3B A-Rod/Cabrera
DH Ortiz
OF Manny
OF Vlad/Mags
1B Morneau/Hafner
C Martinez/Mauer
2B Cano
Pitchers
Beckett
Sabathia
Carmona
Lackey(again, when healthy)
Halladay
Bedard/Felix Hernandez
Papelbon
Teixeria is really good but he is no Albert.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 11, 2008, 03:41:56 am
Teixeria is really good but he is no Albert.
I think Teixiera had the most RBIs in the second half of baseball last year, but correct, Pujols is a man-beast.
Quote from: AB on April 11, 2008, 03:33:55 am
NL East>NL West>NL Central ;D
We're back on the same page.
The other day I was on here and some moron said that the NL East was either the worst in the NL or the worst overall. If I could, I would take away his FF rights forever.
Throw Joe Nathan into the AL pitchers.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 11, 2008, 03:41:56 am
Teixeria is really good but he is no Albert.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on April 11, 2008, 11:48:12 am
Throw Joe Nathan into the AL pitchers.
No one in the NL comes that close to Pujols as the best 1B. That is just my personal preferences.
Same thing with Nathan, he's a great pitcher, but my personal preference in the AL when it comes to closers is Papelbon, Mariano(although he is declining), and K-Rod.
Quote from: AB on April 11, 2008, 08:32:44 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 11, 2008, 03:41:56 am
Teixeria is really good but he is no Albert.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on April 11, 2008, 11:48:12 am
Throw Joe Nathan into the AL pitchers.
No one in the NL comes that close to Pujols as the best 1B. That is just my personal preferences.
Same thing with Nathan, he's a great pitcher, but my personal preference in the AL when it comes to closers is Papelbon, Mariano(although he is declining), and K-Rod.
you suck
Nathan is a close 4th. ;)
Phat Albert with a 3 run shot to put that Cardinals back on top in the 5th in SF. Thats four RBI's for Pujols tonight.
Livan Hernandez gets his 3 win after the Twins beat the Royals for the 3rd time this season. Twins won 5-0 to improve to 5-5 and one game behind first.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 11, 2008, 10:33:22 pm
Phat Albert with a 3 run shot to put that Cardinals back on top in the 5th in SF. Thats four RBI's for Pujols tonight.
The Great Pujols! He's the Man!!
Yanks beat the Sox 4-1. My Red Sox friends here in New England aren't happy tonight. lol
Manny just launched a Moose offering over the monster to make it 1-0 Sox.
Papelbon ended up getting a tough save. He came out to get the last out in the eighth, endured a rain delay that was over two hours long, and then came back out to get three more outs in the ninth, giving Beckett his first win of the season.
Twins are up 2-0 going into the 9th on the Royals. If the Twins hold on, this will be the Royals 5th loss of the season, with 4 of them coming against the Twins.
Cards won a crazy one today. They were no hit through 6, down 5-0, rallied to take a 7-5 lead in the ninth, Giants tied it in the bottom half, and Cards got one in the 10th to win it 8-7.
Quote from: AB on April 12, 2008, 08:21:45 pm
Papelbon ended up getting a tough save. He came out to get the last out in the eighth, endured a rain delay that was over two hours long, and then came back out to get three more outs in the ninth, giving Beckett his first win of the season.
That was a heckuva performance by Pap. He struck out A-Rod with runners on 1st/2nd with 2 outs in the 8th, then came back and K'd Giambi and Posada in the 9th. Today was a much needed win to even the series. Tomorrow's game is on Sunday Night Baseball.
Quote from: jbell96 on April 12, 2008, 09:46:26 pm
Cards won a crazy one today. They were no hit through 6, down 5-0, rallied to take a 7-5 lead in the ninth, Giants tied it in the bottom half, and Cards got one in the 10th to win it 8-7.
It's sad that happened against the Giants.
No matter, go Royals and Cards.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 13, 2008, 04:45:16 am
No matter, go Royals and Cards.
Good luck with the Royals. If the Twins could play them every game of the season they would have the best record in baseball. We are 4-1 against them already. Hopefully we can make it 5-1 tonight. Francisco Liriano makes his first start since his injury back in 06 tonight.
I really don't mind the Royals though. I would probably root for them if they weren't competing with the Twins.
Jump on 'em!
The Red Sox have taken an early 3-0 lead after 1 inning against the Yankees. Phil Hughes had to have thrown close to 40 pitches that inning.
We just had a strong "yankees suck" chant going on at Fenway.
Sox win 8-5 and take the series. That was one LONG game. Right at 4 hours.
Good job by Manny D to close this baby out with Oki and Pap unavailable.
Ugh.
Going to be a long season....
Quote from: RD 2/6™ on April 14, 2008, 06:27:03 am
Ugh.
Going to be a long season....
I wouldn't worry if I was you. The Yankees will be in the postseason one way or another just like always. I don't know if that will be as the AL East champs or as the Wild Card, but they will be there.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 14, 2008, 07:14:02 pm
Quote from: RD 2/6™ on April 14, 2008, 06:27:03 am
Ugh.
Going to be a long season....
I wouldn't worry if I was you. The Yankees will be in the postseason one way or another just like always. I don't know if that will be as the AL East champs or as the Wild Card, but they will be there.
I wouldn't be so sure. They very well may be. However, if Detroit gets rolling them and the CWS could compete for the wild card spot. I highly doubt it, but Minnesota may even compete. I don't think they will be able to keep up though. LAA and Oakland, whichever doesn't win their division will compete too.
I have a suspicion that Minnesota will make a good run this year, and possibly into the postseason. They have a knack for overachieving, especially the last few years.
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ 7/6 on April 14, 2008, 07:40:41 pm
I have a suspicion that Minnesota will make a good run this year, and possibly into the postseason. They have a knack for overachieving, especially the last few years.
It is funny you say that. Being a Twins' fan, I find it the exact opposite. The year we had Shannon Stewart, Christian Guzman, AJ Pierzynski, Jaque Jones, Doug Mienkiewicz, and not to mention Torii Hunter, Santana, Latroy Hawkins, Kyle Lohse, and Jose Offerman. We easily won the AL Central, which was no surprise, but lost in the playoffs in 4 straight games to NYY.
In 2006 we underachieved losing 3 straight games to Oakland in the opening round of the playoffs. We had Luis Castillo added to our roster. Morneau and Mauer started to be known. Cuddyer was on fire towards the end of the season. Liriano, Santana, Radke, Lohse, and Carlos Silva were all solid pitchers in the rotation. Liriano got hurt and everyone but Santana fell apart at the end. We choked in the playoffs. This was the season we started out like 9 games below .500 in June or July. We ended up catching fire and having I think the best record after the all-star break winning 90+ games overall.
Last year we finished a few games under .500 and failed to make the playoffs for the first time in 5 years.
I am sure most of you guys don't care about the Twins though so probably won't read it. We are headed in the right way as far as talent, but we gave up a lot of talent over the years for prospects. Hopefully our owners and management can start trying to build a solid club instead of pocketing the money. We have a pretty good offense this year. I just hope our pitching does good this year.
The Twins were up 5-0 and 9-4 on the Tigers. They were up 9-4 going into the bottom of the 8th and now it is 9-9 and the Tigers only have 1 out with a runner on third. We don't need to drop this after having a huge lead.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on April 14, 2008, 08:30:11 pm
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ 7/6 on April 14, 2008, 07:40:41 pm
I have a suspicion that Minnesota will make a good run this year, and possibly into the postseason. They have a knack for overachieving, especially the last few years.
It is funny you say that. Being a Twins' fan, I find it the exact opposite. The year we had Shannon Stewart, Christian Guzman, AJ Pierzynski, Jaque Jones, Doug Mienkiewicz, and not to mention Torii Hunter, Santana, Latroy Hawkins, Kyle Lohse, and Jose Offerman. We easily won the AL Central, which was no surprise, but lost in the playoffs in 4 straight games to NYY.
In 2006 we underachieved losing 3 straight games to Oakland in the opening round of the playoffs. We had Luis Castillo added to our roster. Morneau and Mauer started to be known. Cuddyer was on fire towards the end of the season. Liriano, Santana, Radke, Lohse, and Carlos Silva were all solid pitchers in the rotation. Liriano got hurt and everyone but Santana fell apart at the end. We choked in the playoffs. This was the season we started out like 9 games below .500 in June or July. We ended up catching fire and having I think the best record after the all-star break winning 90+ games overall.
Last year we finished a few games under .500 and failed to make the playoffs for the first time in 5 years.
I am sure most of you guys don't care about the Twins though so probably won't read it. We are headed in the right way as far as talent, but we gave up a lot of talent over the years for prospects. Hopefully our owners and management can start trying to build a solid club instead of pocketing the money. We have a pretty good offense this year. I just hope our pitching does good this year.
Yeah, the playoffs have been a different story for the Twins. I was really only considering the regular season, as the Twins have succeeded with a relatively low payroll.
We have now given up 6 runs in the 8th. We are down 11-9 after being up so big. Detroit tripled two times in a row just now. This one really sucks to lose.
Down 4-2 in the 8th, Boston has come back to tie Cleveland with 1 in the 8th and 1 here in the 9th.
Thank the Lord for Joe Borowski. He is horrendus.
MANNY!!!!
Boston jus has the Indians' number.
How in the world did he lead the AL in saves with 45 last year while accumulating an ERA of over 5?
I still can't help but feel bad for him and most other players that get booed by their home crowd. The only time I enjoy seeing a player get booed by their own fans is in the Bronx. A-Rod booings are priceless. I would give anything to hear a crowd at Yankee Stadium boo Jeter.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 14, 2008, 09:34:45 pm
Thank the Lord for Joe Borowski. He is horrendus.
And no sooner than I post this, Manny launches a 2 run BOMB to give the Sox a 6-4 lead! Wow.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=280414105
It'll prob get fixed, but look at inning by inning score.
-1?? Haha, wonder what happened.
Quote from: AB on April 14, 2008, 09:36:50 pmI would give anything to hear a crowd at Yankee Stadium boo Jeter.
Believe it or not, they actually did that back around '03 or '04 when Jeter was in the midst of an 0-30 slump. It really was pathetic. Jeter is an un-booable player (for Yankees fans that is) IMO. I gaurantee you that you will never catch any Sox fans boo Manny or Papi.
Quote from: Quite Frankly 4/6 on April 14, 2008, 09:39:03 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=280414105
It'll prob get fixed, but look at inning by inning score.
I think that's some sort of new rule implemented for any team stupid enough to sign Joe Borowski and bring him in to close a game out. Instead of just giving the other team a run, they take one away from Borowski's team to start off the inning.
Here we go. Bottom 9 with Papelbon to close it out.
I think the -1 is for not discovering the Sox jersey buried in the Indian bullpen.
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ 7/6 on April 14, 2008, 09:44:27 pm
Quote from: Quite Frankly 4/6 on April 14, 2008, 09:39:03 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=280414105
It'll prob get fixed, but look at inning by inning score.
I think that's some sort of new rule implemented for any team stupid enough to sign Joe Borowski and bring him in to close a game out. Instead of just giving the other team a run, they take one away from Borowski's team to start off the inning.
Milwaukee needs to put that rule into effect this year as well now that Eric Gagne is in their bullpen.
It is only a matter of time until Rafael Betancourt is the Indians closer.
Once the game goes final the -1 disappears and becomes an addition to the loss column.
Sox won 6-4. Nice comeback win on the road.
I really hate fantasy baseball on yahoo now. No stat tracker to see what my players are doing. Why the frick do I have to pay to know how my guys did?
Spend the money cheapskate.
:)
Quote from: RHS 10/6 on April 14, 2008, 10:22:28 pm
I really hate fantasy baseball on yahoo now. No stat tracker to see what my players are doing. Why the frick do I have to pay to know how my guys did?
They let you have it for free during the first two weeks then start charging you.
I found that out about 5 minutes ago. I just don't understand it. I remember when all fantasy sports were FREE.
For several years they've charged. But paying the fee once covers all your teams on there for that sport.
Its still stupid that they charge.
I would really like to freakn know how I did in my fantasy team today.......
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 15, 2008, 12:46:10 am
I would really like to freakn know how I did in my fantasy team today.......
You gained 51 points and will be in 5th place.
Quote from: RHS on April 15, 2008, 12:51:22 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 15, 2008, 12:46:10 am
I would really like to freakn know how I did in my fantasy team today.......
You gained 51 points and will be in 5th place.
You buy the stat tracker?
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 15, 2008, 01:09:24 am
Quote from: RHS on April 15, 2008, 12:51:22 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 15, 2008, 12:46:10 am
I would really like to freakn know how I did in my fantasy team today.......
You gained 51 points and will be in 5th place.
You buy the stat tracker?
Yeah, I caved. I won't be able to go 30+ more weeks without knowing how my team is doing right then.
Quote from: RHS on April 15, 2008, 01:14:17 pm
Yeah, I caved.
I bought it last year and went ahead and bought it last night. I keep up with my team so much there's no way I could handle not knowing how my players are doing until the next morning.
Screw paying. I can take the extra 2 minutes and click on each box score to see my guys' lines. I am fine with not knowing the exact point totals til the next morning. In fact I usually check fantasy the first thing at work each morning so it doesn't bother me much.
At night I can just check the boxes.
An interesting note about tonight's Brewers-Cardinals game: Both pitchers are batting in the No. 8 position.
Wonder when the last time something like that happened?
The Twins are starting to frustrate me. They were up 4-1 and blew the lead and lost 6-5. This coming after they were up 9-4 last night in the 8th and lost. We have lost a few games we should have easily won. Hopefully this isn't a trend for the season.
Boston just p3wnd Cleveland again.
Tied 3-3 in the 9th, Jason Varitek hit a pinch hit solo homer and we added another run on a Kevin Youkilis base hit.
Headed to the Bronx for 2 games starting tomorrow.
Cardinals win 6-1 tonight for our tenth win of the season.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 15, 2008, 10:34:13 pm
Cardinals win 6-1 tonight for our tenth win of the season.
Pujols had a problem with his arm last night so I hope that doesn't become an issue. I just hope the pitching holds up. I know they won't keep an ERA this low, but as long as they stay consistent we will be in good shape.
Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on April 16, 2008, 10:28:28 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 15, 2008, 10:34:13 pm
Cardinals win 6-1 tonight for our tenth win of the season.
Pujols had a problem with his arm last night so I hope that doesn't become an issue.
That heavy roid use already must be affecting his body already.
Quote from: RHS on April 16, 2008, 01:23:18 pm
Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on April 16, 2008, 10:28:28 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 15, 2008, 10:34:13 pm
Cardinals win 6-1 tonight for our tenth win of the season.
Pujols had a problem with his arm last night so I hope that doesn't become an issue.
That heavy roid use already must be affecting his body already.
Between him and Big Papi
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on April 16, 2008, 01:30:28 pm
Quote from: RHS on April 16, 2008, 01:23:18 pm
Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on April 16, 2008, 10:28:28 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 15, 2008, 10:34:13 pm
Cardinals win 6-1 tonight for our tenth win of the season.
Pujols had a problem with his arm last night so I hope that doesn't become an issue.
That heavy roid use already must be affecting his body already.
Between him and Big Papi
...BALCO might be all out.
I think I'm gonna cave in as well and buy the tracker friday (payday). Yes, I'm that broke.
Quote from: RHS on April 16, 2008, 01:23:18 pm
Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on April 16, 2008, 10:28:28 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 15, 2008, 10:34:13 pm
Cardinals win 6-1 tonight for our tenth win of the season.
Pujols had a problem with his arm last night so I hope that doesn't become an issue.
That heavy roid use already must be affecting his body already.
Had no idea steriods caused base runners to run into your are.
The more you know....
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The mother fricken Cardinals are back this year baby!!!!!!!!!!!
so far!!
Red Sox were down 7-3 but have rallied in the 5th inning to score 6 runs, and now lead 9-7.
Quote from: AB on April 16, 2008, 08:19:28 pm
Red Sox were down 7-3 but have rallied in the 5th inning to score 6 runs, and now lead 9-7.
Ortiz get any hits tonight? Or still slumping?
He has one I know of and an RBI.
Yankees lead 11-9 now in the bottom of the 6th.
I hate fantasy baseball. I had Wang going tonight and need the points, but I am a Sox fan.
Frick.
Yankees win 15-9. Rough night pitching wise.
Beckett on the hill tomorrow.
Cardinals are off to their best start since 1982. And that turned out to be a good season. :)
Brandon Webb is 4-0 and bein a beast with the stick haha
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 17, 2008, 01:29:53 am
Cardinals are off to their best start since 1982. And that turned out to be a good season. :)
Seriously, what in the world. I was expecting us to hover around .400 this year.
Hey Ryan, have you dropped Zito yet?
Zito actually pitched well yesterday, only allowed 3 runs in 6 innings. But he was facing Webb so he took another loss. It's OK cause I have Webb too :)
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 17, 2008, 10:10:09 am
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Cardinals are off to their best start since 1982. And that turned out to be a good season. :)
Seriously, what in the world. I was expecting us to hover around .400 this year.
lol me too, I wasn't expecting an average season at best this year.
Quote from: Marionpats07™ on April 17, 2008, 10:25:31 am
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 17, 2008, 10:10:09 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 17, 2008, 01:29:53 am
Cardinals are off to their best start since 1982. And that turned out to be a good season. :)
Seriously, what in the world. I was expecting us to hover around .400 this year.
lol me too, I wasn't expecting an average season at best this year.
still got a long ways to go so an average season is possible ::)
Quote from: suspended on April 17, 2008, 10:30:57 am
Quote from: Marionpats07™ on April 17, 2008, 10:25:31 am
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 17, 2008, 10:10:09 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 17, 2008, 01:29:53 am
Cardinals are off to their best start since 1982. And that turned out to be a good season. :)
Seriously, what in the world. I was expecting us to hover around .400 this year.
lol me too, I wasn't expecting an average season at best this year.
still got a long ways to go so an average season is possible ::)
Well we all know that. But we are enjoying it while it lasts.
Quote from: suspended on April 17, 2008, 10:30:57 am
Quote from: Marionpats07™ on April 17, 2008, 10:25:31 am
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on April 17, 2008, 10:10:09 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 17, 2008, 01:29:53 am
Cardinals are off to their best start since 1982. And that turned out to be a good season. :)
Seriously, what in the world. I was expecting us to hover around .400 this year.
lol me too, I wasn't expecting an average season at best this year.
still got a long ways to go so an average season is possible ::)
Well they did win a World Series after finishing around .500 the last time....so maybe miracles can happen again for the Cards?
Cardinals are going for the sweep against the Brewers right now. They are tied 3-3 in the bottom of the 9th with the Cardinals coming to bat.
Cards lost in the tenth. We gave up a two run homer to Fielder (his first of the season) and couldn't get a run across in the bottom of the tenth when we have runners on first and second with no outs. Oh well we won the series.
Another note: The Cardinals have no lost a series yet this year. The closest was splitting a four game series with the Giants.
On the bright side: The Cubs lost, too. that magic number is dropping each day. :D
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 17, 2008, 03:54:58 pm
We gave up a two run homer to Fielder (his first of the season)
That veggie diet finally paid off.
I heard it on ESPN Radio the other day from some of their baseball guys. If you just win every series, the guys behind you can't make up ground.
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Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 17, 2008, 03:54:58 pm
We gave up a two run homer to Fielder (his first of the season)
That veggie diet finally paid off.
I heard it on ESPN Radio the other day from some of their baseball guys. If you just win every series, the guys behind you can't make up ground.
If you win every series you are going to make the playoffs no matter what.
I'll personally give every single Cardinals fan here $10,000 if the Cardinals win every series during the regular season. ;)
Big Papi has finally come through tonight with a grand slam against Texas. Hopefully this will get him out of that nasty slump.
Sox pounding the Rangers 9-1 after 5.
Yankees and Orioles are tied 1-1 in the 6th. Very good game.
Also can't believe there has been no mention of the Rockies/Padres 22 inning marathon last night. I actually watched most of the game until the 14th and finally went off to bed. With Colorado up 1-0 I figured the game was about over anyway, and I get up this morning only to discover it went on for another 3 hours after I turned it off. Unbelievable.
Some guy on another board I post on posted a thread about that game. He said he had to be at work at 6 AM, so he woke up at about 4:30 AM and went to the computer to check his fantasy baseball team and saw that the game was STILL going on.
He was in eastern time so that means the game was still on at 1:30 AM local time. Crazy.
Quote from: SMC on April 18, 2008, 08:29:57 pm
He was in eastern time so that means the game was still on at 1:30 AM local time. Crazy.
To make matters worse, Colorado had to fly out to Houston and San Diego to Arizona after the game. I can't imagine how tired the players on those teams have to be right now.
Colorado can't have been too tired because they scored 3 times as many in the FIRST INNING against Houston tonight as they did in 22 innings last night.
I was checking fantasy stats earlier and it was 6-4 Rockies in the 1st. Hunter Pence waited until I finally benched him to start doing something.
Cardinals are beating the Giants 9-1 in the top of the 8th :)
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 18, 2008, 08:02:33 pm
Also can't believe there has been no mention of the Rockies/Padres 22 inning marathon last night. I actually watched most of the game until the 14th and finally went off to bed. With Colorado up 1-0 I figured the game was about over anyway, and I get up this morning only to discover it went on for another 3 hours after I turned it off. Unbelievable.
I would have mentioned it if I'd had more tyime before I went to work earlier. Freakin insane.
Are. You. Serious.
Torii Hunter just ROBBED Richie Sexson of a 2 run homer on the last play of the game to give the Angels a 5-4 win. Incredible.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 18, 2008, 11:32:02 pm
Are. You. Serious.
Torii Hunter just ROBBED Richie Sexson of a 2 run homer on the last play of the game to give the Angels a 5-4 win. Incredible.
Well crap.
Quote from: AB on April 18, 2008, 07:41:22 pm
I'll personally give every single Cardinals fan here $10,000 if the Cardinals win every series during the regular season. ;)
Deal. Lol
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Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 18, 2008, 11:32:02 pm
Are. You. Serious.
Torii Hunter just ROBBED Richie Sexson of a 2 run homer on the last play of the game to give the Angels a 5-4 win. Incredible.
Well crap.
Double crap.
Manny Ramirez is one phenomenal hitter. After David Ortiz drove in Dustin Pedroia to tie the Rangers 3-3, Manny hit a 2 run SHOT to give the Red Sox a 5-3 lead in the 8th.
Jon Papelbon getting ready to close it out. Here's a stat for you - Pap has struck out 15 of his last 19 outs.
A day after complaining about being benched, the Big Hurt was released by Toronto today. He had gone 4-35 since homering in three straight games in early April.
Hope you Cardinal fans enjoyed first place, because it's ours now :)
Quote from: SMC on April 20, 2008, 07:11:20 pm
Hope you Cardinal fans enjoyed first place, because it's ours now :)
Cubs always enjoy first early in the season. 99.9% of the time in August its gone.
Wait a minute, there still are Cub fans?
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 20, 2008, 08:38:22 pm
Quote from: SMC on April 20, 2008, 07:11:20 pm
Hope you Cardinal fans enjoyed first place, because it's ours now :)
Cubs always enjoy first early in the season. 99.9% of the time in August its gone.
Maybe this is the year the rend reverses?
I watched the Braves game today they beat the dodgers 6-1 teixera hit a homerun in the 8th inning and followed by a two base hits afterwards in the same inning which gave the braves the win.
Quote from: RHS on April 20, 2008, 10:47:42 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 20, 2008, 08:38:22 pm
Quote from: SMC on April 20, 2008, 07:11:20 pm
Hope you Cardinal fans enjoyed first place, because it's ours now :)
Cubs always enjoy first early in the season. 99.9% of the time in August its gone.
Maybe this is the year the rend reverses?
Perhaps. But how many times have we heard that? :)
Quote from: SMC on April 20, 2008, 07:11:20 pm
Hope you Cardinal fans enjoyed first place, because it's ours now :)
Booooo
The Cubs DID win the division last year, too. It's not like we are still trying to climb out of the basement.
With this team and this manager, we are 1 for 1 winning the Central.
The Piniella era also has zero playoff wins.
Quote from: SMC on April 21, 2008, 09:47:46 am
The Cubs DID win the division last year, too. It's not like we are still trying to climb out of the basement.
With this team and this manager, we are 1 for 1 winning the Central.
Won the Central in the past, still hasn't helped.
Quote from: SMC on April 21, 2008, 09:47:46 am
The Cubs DID win the division last year, too. It's not like we are still trying to climb out of the basement.
With this team and this manager, we are 1 for 1 winning the Central.
Ryan serious question.
Does it really suck as much as I think it would being a Cub fan?
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 21, 2008, 03:24:58 pm
Does it really suck as much as I think it would being a Cub fan?
(http://www.thetartan.org/system/asset/image/1330/small/quicksandcolor.jpg)
Are you kidding? That's one of the reasons that there is a Chicago Cubs to St. Louis Cardinals fan conversion forms floating around the nation. I actually happen to have it on hand.
I couldn't imagine being a Cubs fan. But if you think about it, bein a Braves fan isn't that fun either.
We win the division 14 years in a row. Most years have the best or one of the best records in all of baseball, with an absolute sick pitching staff. But we only win one World Series, lose in two others, and make exits year after year in the NLDS. Got very aggravating and became a big dissapointment every October to be a Braves fan.
Cards get game one from the Brew Crew tonight.
This game is pushing the Cardinals to the limit.
Izturis suffers an elbow injury in the top of the ninth. Kennedy has already been used as a pinch-hitter and Miles is playing second. With that in mind, the Cards bring in Molina to catch, move Jason LaRue from catcher to first, and Pujols takes over at second, with Miles moving over to short.
Interesting defense, to say the least.
This has been an odd turn of events.
I have to admit ... The Cards are hanging tough, rallying from five runs down to tie it at 8-8 ... and the game is now in the bottom of the 11th.
Quote from: SouthpawSensation on April 22, 2008, 04:12:56 pm
I have to admit ... The Cards are hanging tough, rallying from five runs down to tie it at 8-8 ... and the game is now in the bottom of the 11th.
With the Big Vegan up to bat.
Now in the 12th ... but something tells me you won't see the Cardinals turning a 6-4-3 double play the rest of the game.
We go to the Bottom of the 12th still tied.
Brewers just scored, come on Cards!
Well the Brewers take this one in 12.
Quote from: Marionpats07™ on April 22, 2008, 04:36:39 pm
Brewers just scored, come on Cards!
Just so you'll know, when a game is tied in extra innings and the home team scores the game is over. :-X
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Quote from: Marionpats07™ on April 22, 2008, 04:36:39 pm
Brewers just scored, come on Cards!
Just so you'll know, when a game is tied in extra innings and the home team scores the game is over. :-X
I just noticed that :( I was watching it via espn picture thingy...I just caught on lol.
Go Brew Crew.
Big series in Boston starting tonight - Angels/Red Sox.
The flu has been going around the Red Sox clubhouse and caused Josh Beckett to miss his start tonight. Instead, we had to call up David Pauley from Pawtucket. Along with Beckett, Jason Varitek and Manny Delcarmen are unavailable tonight just to name a few. It's a little surprising we've been playing so well with most of the guys being sick as of late.
Thankfully Ryan sent me a text about Beckett so I was able to move Wang into my pitching lineup tonight. Wang, Beckett and Webb were all slated to pitch on the same day for me.
YES. Jacoby Ellsbury hits a leadoff homer.
1-0 Sox
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 22, 2008, 06:17:58 pm
YES. Jacoby Ellsbury hits a leadoff homer.
1-0 Sox
Go white sox!!!! Buck the Yanks!
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Quote from: msubulldogs21 on April 22, 2008, 06:17:58 pm
YES. Jacoby Ellsbury hits a leadoff homer.
1-0 Sox
Go white sox!!!! Buck the Yanks!
Red Sox.
The White Sox/Yankees don't play until 7:11.
Oh, im just being stupid with sports today...lol
Quote from: RHS on April 22, 2008, 06:11:19 pm
Thankfully Ryan sent me a text about Beckett so I was able to move Wang into my pitching lineup tonight. Wang, Beckett and Webb were all slated to pitch on the same day for me.
After having a horrible start I haven't checked my fantasy baseball in probably close to a week.
It's not that bad being a Cubs fan, you just have to be able to laugh at yourself. Being a Knick fan is WAY worse.
We have won 5 in a row again. Starting to open up a lead.
And here's from the "If This Doesn't Beat All" Department ...
Gabe Gross walked, stole second and scored the winning run in the 12th inning for Milwaukee. After the game, it was reported that Gross had been traded to Tampa Bay for a minor league pitcher.
Also, Atlanta's John Smoltz became the 16th member of the 3,000 strikeout club, fanning John Lannan in the third inning of tonight's game.
I absolutely love baseball, but I struggle to watch it on TV. I can watch it all day long in person, but struggle if its not in person as stated.
Jacoby Ellsbury just hit his 2nd homer of the game to give Boston a 6-5 lead after 6 innings. The Angels led 5-1 at one point, but the Red Sox have battled back to take the lead. Really good game.
Boston wins 7-6. Papelbon picked up his major league leading 8th save while striking out two.
Livan Hernandez has really been a good pitcher for the Twins so far. He is 3-0 on the season. He started out the game pitching great. I think he only gave up 3 hits through 5 innings. Unfortunately, he ran into some trouble and ended up giving up 4 runs to tie the game. Twins are up 5-4 right now over Oakland in the 8th. Rincon came in so no matter what Hernandez will remain undefeated on the season. He has an ERA of 3.55 on the season.
Quote from: RT on April 22, 2008, 06:56:47 pm
I absolutely love baseball, but I struggle to watch it on TV. I can watch it all day long in person, but struggle if its not in person as stated.
Same here man. I don't watch much on tv. I love going to games though.
I feel bad for Liriano. He is obviously not fully over his injury. He cam into the minor leagues and pitched his first two games and didn't do very good. The two MLB games he pitched in we lost them both and he gave up a total of 7 runs in those two games while walking 10 total and only striking out 7.
Today he came out against Oakland and was pulled in the first inning after getting I think only 1 out. He gave up 6 runs, 5 hits, and walked 3 and didn't even get out of the inning.
Meanwhile, former Arkansas Razorback Cliff Lee has continued his hot start.
Lee pitched a three-hitter tonight with nine strikeouts as Cleveland beat Kansas City, 2-0, in the second game of the doubleheader. Lee is now 4-0 with a blistering 0.28 earned run average.
Quote from: SouthpawSensation on April 24, 2008, 11:53:22 pm
. Lee is now 4-0 with a blistering 0.28 earned run average.
Woh!!!!!!
Quote from: SouthpawSensation on April 24, 2008, 11:53:22 pm
Meanwhile, former Arkansas Razorback Cliff Lee has continued his hot start.
Lee pitched a three-hitter tonight with nine strikeouts as Cleveland beat Kansas City, 2-0, in the second game of the doubleheader. Lee is now 4-0 with a blistering 0.28 earned run average.
His agent is a friend of mine and I am really happy to see him healthy and pitching well again.
5 straight losses for the Sox. This sucks.
Finally an off-day today. Read on the Boston Globe that the players are completley exhausted and still feeling some lingering effects from that F'ing Tokyo trip. I hated that. Hopefully everyone will be over the flu sometime soon too. Still have some guys that are sick. Not using fatigue/sickness as an excuse, just saying.
This might be the best play of the season .....
http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200804242582956
Quote from: SouthpawSensation on April 28, 2008, 10:03:27 pm
This might be the best play of the season .....
http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200804242582956
Somebody needs to tell him this isn't soccer.
C'mon .... that's hockey ... a kick save and a beauty!!!!!! :D
That's more hockey than it is soccer. Nice play, even for a Card.
Quote from: RHS on April 28, 2008, 10:33:58 pm
That's more hockey than it is soccer. Nice play, even for a Card.
Bam
Quote from: SouthpawSensation on April 28, 2008, 10:03:27 pm
This might be the best play of the season .....
http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200804242582956
Joel made another great kick play on a ball again tonight. I will get a link up later as it just happened.
Cardinals are up 7-0 on the Reds in the bottom of the 4th.
The frickin' Nationals pwn the Braves this year.
I was hoping for a shutout, then Anthony Reyes blows it in the ninth. 7-2 Cardinals.
Joel Pinero has another great outing tonight.
Cards back in sole possession of 1st after Kerry Wood blows another save. :)
We finally get to play the Cardinals coming up next. We'll see how good yall really are.
Quote from: SMC on May 01, 2008, 07:40:26 pm
We finally get to play the Cardinals coming up next. We'll see how good yall really are.
Good enough to have a winning tradition. :)
By the way, Cubs fans ... so much for keeping first place ....
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 29, 2008, 10:49:49 pm
Joel Pinero has another great outing tonight.
It amazes me how guys can absolutely suck balls in the AL, come over to the NL, and then suddenly rejuvinate themselves. Unbelievable. And he's not the only one, just one of the more recent ones that comes to mind.
Some good MLB series starting tonight:
Red Sox vs Rays (both teams tied for 1st in AL East)
Cardinals vs Cubs (Cards lead by half game)
D-backs vs Mets
Angels vs Orioles
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 29, 2008, 10:49:49 pm
Joel Pinero has another great outing tonight.
Too bad he couldn't have them while he was in Seattle.
Quote from: RHS on May 02, 2008, 04:41:46 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 29, 2008, 10:49:49 pm
Joel Pinero has another great outing tonight.
Too bad he couldn't have them while he was in Seattle.
(See my above post regarding Pineiro)
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 02, 2008, 04:38:46 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on April 29, 2008, 10:49:49 pm
Joel Pinero has another great outing tonight.
It amazes me how guys can absolutely suck balls in the AL, come over to the NL, and then suddenly rejuvinate themselves. Unbelievable. And he's not the only one, just one of the more recent ones that comes to mind.
You do have to admit that the Cards have an awesome pitching coach.
Look at what he's done with guys like Jeff Weaver, Kyle Lohse, Joel Piniero .... he's allowed a few bumps in the road like Sidney Ponson.
I hate to say it but even if the Cards pitching coach is amazing, pitchers that are average in the AL can come to an NL team and be quite a bit better. They aren't having to face the DH and lets face it, the last 5 years or so the majority of the more potent lineups have been in the AL. I'm a fan of an NL team and will even admit that outside of one maybe two teams in the NL, each of the past 4 or 5 years 5 or 6 of the top 8 teams in baseball have been AL teams.
Quote from: AB on May 02, 2008, 05:47:55 pm
I hate to say it but even if the Cards pitching coach is amazing, pitchers that are average in the AL can come to an NL team and be quite a bit better.
Not just average pitchers, downright horrendus ones. Joel Pineiro was so bad that we couldn't even keep him as a LONG RELIEVER. He got shelled virtually every time out. He then proceeds to sign with the Cardinals, does a 360 and becomes a very reliable pitcher.
Mike Timlin appears to be in that stage right now. He has pitched awful this season. He can't even get the scrubs out. All that has to happen is Boston releasing him, St. Louis or some other NL team signing him, and in turn rejuvinating his career to make him look like the Mike Timlin of 10 years ago. And honestly, that is a very real possibility.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 02, 2008, 05:09:40 pm
You do have to admit that the Cards have an awesome pitching coach.
No doubt Dave Duncan does a very good job. But these guys are definitely benefitting from some crap lineups and not having to face a DH.
Not too long ago on Baseball Tonight they were talking about Dontrelle Willis and how when a pitcher from the NL makes the switch to the AL their ERA jumps by almost a staggering full run.
All I have to say is the Cards pitching staff looked pretty dang good two years ago in the world series against a potent Tigers lineup. :)
Huge 2 run bomb by Soriano off Izzy to tie the game at 3 in the 9th.
But Schumacher answers with a two-run blast in the 11th ... 5-3 Cards.
A double dose of the Cubs' magic number going down ... mmmmmm.
ugh
Thank goodness Skip bailed out Izzy or I'd be on a plane to St. Louis right now to break Izzy's throwing arm. He needs to retire and we need to find a replacement.
Twins gave up 6 runs in the first inning but scored 7 unanswered to win 7-6 over Detroit, sweeping them in this 3 game series. They are on a 5 game winning streak and they are currently 2 games up in the AL Central.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on May 04, 2008, 04:22:38 pm
Twins gave up 6 runs in the first inning but scored 7 unanswered to win 7-6 over Detroit, sweeping them in this 3 game series. They are on a 5 game winning streak and they are currently 2 games up in the AL Central.
That was a crazy game. Guillen's 2 out error really triggered that late rally. I would like to see either Minnesota or Chicago win the AL Central rather than the favorites Detroit and Cleveland, both of which are under .500 right now. Seeing KC win the division would be incredible, but they don't have much of a chance. I think the Twins and White Sox actually do.
Cubs and Cardinals are about to get underway on Sunday Night Baseball. Go Cubs. :)
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 04, 2008, 06:59:01 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on May 04, 2008, 04:22:38 pm
Twins gave up 6 runs in the first inning but scored 7 unanswered to win 7-6 over Detroit, sweeping them in this 3 game series. They are on a 5 game winning streak and they are currently 2 games up in the AL Central.
That was a crazy game. Guillen's 2 out error really triggered that late rally. I would like to see either Minnesota or Chicago win the AL Central rather than the favorites Detroit and Cleveland, both of which are under .500 right now. Seeing KC win the division would be incredible, but they don't have much of a chance. I think the Twins and White Sox actually do.
I don't expect us to hold this lead too long, but as I said as the season approached...Minnesota is going to surprise some people.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 04, 2008, 07:00:31 pm
Cubs and Cardinals are about to get underway on Sunday Night Baseball. Go Cubs. :)
I thought I liked you to......
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 04, 2008, 07:28:21 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 04, 2008, 07:00:31 pm
Cubs and Cardinals are about to get underway on Sunday Night Baseball. Go Cubs. :)
I thought I liked you to......
msubulldogs you are crazy for making a comment like that....
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 04, 2008, 07:00:31 pm
Cubs and Cardinals are about to get underway on Sunday Night Baseball. Go Cubs. :)
Wow. You're beginning to sound like a certain Yankees/Ole Miss fan that we know so well.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 04, 2008, 07:00:31 pm
Cubs and Cardinals are about to get underway on Sunday Night Baseball. Go Cubs. :)
Great post. +1
Cards win the series, stay in first place.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 04, 2008, 10:49:19 pm
Cards win the series, stay in first place.
Take that Cubs!!
Good series to the Cards, frustrating that we hit so poorly with men on base in games 1 and 3. We only lose one game over the weekend too so not a huge loss, especially with over 4 months left. I wouldn't get too cocky just yet.
The Red Birds are looking mighty good. That was a fun game to watch tonight.
Go Cards!
Cards fans getting cocky? I think a lot of Cubs cans should take a dose of that medicine.
Plenty of JA fans on both sides. I give the Cards props as they are a lot better than I thought they'd be. Looks like it will be a good race against a real baseball team this year and not a bunch of fat dudes that look like an adult softball team (Brewers).
Quote from: SMC on May 04, 2008, 11:11:32 pm
Plenty of JA fans on both sides. I give the Cards props as they are a lot better than I thought they'd be. Looks like it will be a good race against a real baseball team this year and not a bunch of fat dudes that look like an adult softball team (Brewers).
We have a lot of guys that are playing their hearts out to stay in the show and that helps keep the energy up. We have a couple stars but most of our team is made up of just pure players that gut it out every day. We have a real likeable team this year. I would like to see us play each other with both teams healthy tho.
Pujols uses his legs to win tonight, running all the way home from second on a ground ball to second by Rick Ankiel to score the winnng run, giving the Cardinals a 6-5 victory over the Rockies.
And with the Cubs losing, you know what that means .... :D
Quote from: SouthpawSensation on May 05, 2008, 11:45:28 pm
Pujols uses his legs to win tonight, running all the way home from second on a ground ball to second by Rick Ankiel to score the winnng run, giving the Cardinals a 6-5 victory over the Rockies.
And with the Cubs losing, you know what that means .... :D
Smaller magic number?
Thought I'd do my own power rankings every now and then on this thread just to spark some discussion.
1. Boston Red Sox (21-13) - Defending champs for a reason and very well balanced once again.
2. LA Angels (21-13) - Santana and Saunders are a combined 12-0. Torii Hunter investment is paying off.
3. Arizona D-backs (21-11) - Webb and Haren may be the best 1-2 punch in baseball.
4. Oakland A's (20-14) - Big surprise here. Billy Beane continues to work his magic. We'll see how long it lasts though.
5. St. Louis Cardinals (21-12) - Playing solid baseball despite the low expectations to start the season.
6. Philadelphia Phillies (19-14) - Chase Utley has far and away been the best player in baseball this year putting up amazing numbers.
7. Chicago Cubs (18-14) - Fukudome has been great so far. Derrek Lee is his usual self as well.
8. New York Yankees (17-16) - Young pitchers have struggled but still a very tough team that won't go away anytime soon.
9. Minnesota Twins (16-14) - Like the Cardinals, came into the season with low expectations but still playing well anyway.
10. Tampa Bay Rays (16-15) - Stacked with young talent. Finally have a bonafide closer in Percival and a bullpen that is holding leads for a change.
You may notice 3 of the top 4 teams and 6 of the 10 are from the AL. I'll admit there are some good NL teams right now, but honestly it's just hard for me to take many of them seriously until they start showing up in the World Series. The Cardinals in 06 are an exception playing well over their heads, but over the past 4-5 years the AL has been far and away the better league and won 3 of the last 4 WS.
What do yall think? If you disagree with my top 10, post yours.
I would probably put the Dodgers in over the TB Rays. They are playing great lately being 9-1 in their last 10.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 06, 2008, 02:46:12 am
Quote from: SouthpawSensation on May 05, 2008, 11:45:28 pm
Pujols uses his legs to win tonight, running all the way home from second on a ground ball to second by Rick Ankiel to score the winnng run, giving the Cardinals a 6-5 victory over the Rockies.
And with the Cubs losing, you know what that means .... :D
Smaller magic number?
You bet. And against the Flubs, that's always a good thing.
Hopefully Ramirez is not seriously injured. We missed him big time vs the Cards and again last night vs the Reds. Hopefully we can turn it around and cut into that May 6th "magic number" ...
Someone needs to notify the Cubs that it's only May. They are running ahead of schedule by folding so early in the season.
Har har.
So far at least no one on the Cubs has missed games due to back spasms suffered while talking with the media.
There's always tomorrow.
Right now Cardinals are up 5-2 in the bottom of the 5th. Looper is pitching well so far but may have hurt himself stretching on a play at 1st in the fourth inning.
Quote from: Quite Frankly 4/6 on May 06, 2008, 04:16:45 pm
Someone needs to notify the Cubs that it's only May. They are running ahead of schedule by folding so early in the season.
Getting a head start for 2009 ;)
Gavin Floyd has a no hitter through 8! He's a White Sox pitcher.
right on cue I jinxed it.
Got one out and then Mauer hit a slicer. Saw it on ESPN live.
Cards still on top 5-2 in the top of the 7th.
Ankiel crushes one for a solo shot in the top of the 8th to make it 6-2 Cardinals over the Rockies.
Ankiel just threw a rope from the TRACK to gun down a runner sliding into third.
That was unreal.
WOW!!!!!! WHAT A GREAT THROW FROM ANKIEL!!!!
He as two great throws tonight to gun people trying to go to 3rd. Your going to have to watch ESPN tonight to see. Both throws are unbelievable.
All hail Rick Ankiel.
Looper tried to go the distance but gave up two hits in the ninth and leaves the game after pitching a great 8 and 1/3 innings.
We might as well just rename this thread the St. Louis Cardinals thread. I pray to God that the Cardinals start sliding and are pretty well out of contention by the All-Star Break.
At least someone mentioned Gavin Floyd's near no hitter. ;D
Floyd went 8.1 innings before Mauer broke it up. Floyd also lost a no hitter in the 8th inning several weeks ago.
Never really understood why Braves fans hate the Cardinals.
I as THE noted Braves fan on this site will state for the record my second fav team is STL.
It's not the Cardinals in general. It is the insane amount of Cardinals fans in this state, and especially in the River Valley and NWA. Not all of them are bad. I just get a little annoyed by the amount of love the Cards get from people around here.
The Royals and Rangers distance and time wise aren't much further away than St. Louis. And I don't know why but I've never liked the Cardinals but both KC and Texas have always been two of my favorite AL teams.
I got it for you in a nutshell, their parents and grandparents were Card fans. Goes back to Dizzy Dean.
Royals and Rangers are expansion teams and no doubt have been around awhile, but it's handed down.
It's of note that the same type loyality doesn't exist for the Rams/former Cardinals NFL teams.
Well forever all you could get in the state was Cardinal baseball. And the Travs were a Cardinal team for a long time. This is easily in the heart of Cardinal country.
On the game, Franklin came in and gave up two more hits and gave up three runs but finishes it out as the Cardinals win 6-5. Everyone in the Cards lineup had a hit tonight and Looper gets his 5th win of the season. Cubs you stay two games back.
Also you cant get Royals games on TV in Arkansas so its hard to become a fan of a team that you will be lucky to see ten games of a season.
Quote from: Quite Frankly 4/6 on May 06, 2008, 10:38:16 pm
I got it for you in a nutshell, their parents and grandparents were Card fans. Goes back to Dizzy Dean.
Royals and Rangers are expansion teams and no doubt have been around awhile, but it's handed down.
It's of note that the same type loyality doesn't exist for the Rams/former Cardinals NFL teams.
That's the main reason my grandpa has always been a Cardinal fan. He doesn't follow them nearly as closely anymore but I know my mom told me when she was a kid every Sunday afternoon and Saturdays for that matter, he'd listen the Cardinals game on the radio.
My dad's dad on the other hand was a missionary, meaning my dad moved around the country quite a bit growing up. He has been a life long Orioles fan. Neither the Cardinals or Orioles appealed much to me growing up, but the Braves always did. It also helped that they were always on TV and I just fell in love with them and especially players like Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz. My dad grew up liking the Baltimore based sports teams(Orioles, Colts, and Bullets)only one, the Colts, ever grew on me as an influential kid.
There definitely isn't as big of a follwing for the Rams as there are for the Cardinals but I know plenty of Rams fans. In fact the very small percentage of my friends that aren't Cowboys fans are Rams fans, Packers fans, and the occasional bandwaggon Patriots fan.
Quote from: Quite Frankly 4/6 on May 06, 2008, 10:33:39 pm
I as THE A noted Braves fan on this site will state for the record my second fav team is STL.
Fixed that for you.
Quote from: RHS on May 07, 2008, 03:05:39 am
Quote from: Quite Frankly 4/6 on May 06, 2008, 10:33:39 pm
I as THE A noted Braves fan on this site will state for the record my second fav team is STL.
Fixed that for you.
Didn't need it. But what ever makes you feel good. I didn't say only. But I know you think it's funny so by all means.
I'm glad you see yourself as THE noted Braves fan of the board. Gives me a lot less pressure, and now I can go back to being a regular dumb Braves fan who doesn't know a thing.
What exactly makes you the noted Braves fan of the board? Is it how long you've here? Is it how much you know? I'm just curious because up until now I didn't realize we had only one Braves fan on the board worthy of mentioning. I guess I've wasted my time the last 5 years talking about the Braves on here since apparently mine or no one elses comments or thoughts on Atlanta meant anything.
Cry baby. I'm glad you're a Braves fan. I didn't know making such a statement would cause the little klan to get so self efacing.
I love the heck out of them. I could list sum and substance, but won't get into a pessing(sic)contest with a fellow fan.
I'll leave it at that.
Quote from: Quite Frankly 4/6 on May 07, 2008, 07:30:47 am
Quote from: RHS on May 07, 2008, 03:05:39 am
Quote from: Quite Frankly 4/6 on May 06, 2008, 10:33:39 pm
I as THE A noted Braves fan on this site will state for the record my second fav team is STL.
Fixed that for you.
Didn't need it. But what ever makes you feel good. I didn't say only. But I know you think it's funny so by all means.
Wouldn't say it makes me feel good, or bad. Has no effect at all. I just found it funny you gave yourself a title.
As Rome would say, no self glossing.
If I was to give myself 'a title', it might be a little more, shall I say 'aggressive'.
:)
The Reds beat the Cubs 9-0 today. Cincinatti hit SEVEN homers. Seven.
That's 7 more homers than the Cubs have rings in the modern era.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 07, 2008, 03:03:03 pm
The Reds beat the Cubs 9-0 today. Cincinatti hit SEVEN homers. Seven.
pitchers must be choking on the ERA's
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 07, 2008, 03:03:03 pm
The Reds beat the Cubs 9-0 today. Cincinatti hit SEVEN homers. Seven.
Sounds like Alabama against the Hogs on Saturday. I think they hit 4 or 5.
Cliff Lee is just plain filthy. 7 shutout innings and 7 K's at Yankee Stadium tonight to lower his ERA down to 0.81 and move to 6-0.
Boston and Detroit are tied 8-8 in the 8th inning. Detroit's awful bullpen has allowed us to get back in it as Mike Lowell hit a 3 run shot to tie it last inning.
Thanks to a BS check swing single and Julio Lugo making his 5,387th error of the year, Detroit comes back to win 9-8.
@$%#
Izzy strikes again, blows 2 run lead to lose by 1.
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Guess that magic number isn't going to increase tonight.
Quote from: SMC on May 07, 2008, 10:36:54 pm
Izzy strikes again, blows 2 run lead to lose by 1.
Man he is terrible. If the Cardinals are serious about making a run this year they better find a better alternative than Izzy. You won't hold up in the playoffs without a good closer.
Quote from: SMC on May 07, 2008, 10:36:54 pm
Izzy strikes again
lol. A new slogan is born.
Izzy actually has a quite a few saves, but his ERA is terrible. He and Gagne just need to quit. Gagne actually has 9 or 10 saves but has blown 5 or 6 as well.
When Joey Votto hits 3 homers against you then you know your in for a long night. It seems like the Cubs just can't consistently play good baseball this year. Kind of like the Braves and some more than a handful of other teams in the league right now not quite playing up to their pre-season expectations.
Quote from: SMC on May 07, 2008, 10:36:54 pm
Izzy strikes again, blows 2 run lead to lose by 1.
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Guess that magic number isn't going to increase tonight.
How did the Cubs do today? :)
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 07, 2008, 10:47:32 pm
Quote from: SMC on May 07, 2008, 10:36:54 pm
Izzy strikes again, blows 2 run lead to lose by 1.
Man he is terrible. If the Cardinals are serious about making a run this year they better find a better alternative than Izzy. You won't hold up in the playoffs without a good closer.
They had that closer.
His name was Adam Wainwright.
What's a respectable WHIP for a closer? Izzy sits at 1.364 right now.
I would think quite a bit lower than that. Not neccessarily below 1.00 but seeing as how a closer pitches on most nights only 1 inning, if he is walking 2 or more batters per inning he won't be the closer very long. And obviously no closer is going to go the entire season without giving up a hit. But like walks, if they are giving up more than 2 per inning they can't expect to keep their role for very long, unless they catch some big breaks.
Another bright spot for Cincinnati, Edinson Volquez has been virtually unbeatable this year. He struck out 10 today in 7 innings of work. He is 5-1 on the year with a 1.06 ERA. Unfortunately, with it being finals week, I haven't been able to check my fantasy team in the last few days and Volquez was on the bench.
Here is the WHIP of some of the better closers in the league. I'll put their current WHIP first and then their career WHIP.
Mariano Rivera - 0.31 2008, 1.04 career
Jonathan Papelbon - 0.67, 0.90
Francisco Rodriguez - 1.09, 1.30
Joe Nathan - 1.00, 1.15
Brad Lidge - 0.87, 1.19
Billy Wagner - 0.38, 1.01
Trevor Hoffman - 1.55, 1.05
Troy Percival - 0.27, 1.08
Bobby Jenks - 1.30, 1.18
That's just some of the more estabished closers throughout the league. So Izzy is sitting at 1.53 right now, and for his career he has a WHIP of 1.31. So his career WHIP is a little higher than some of the more established closers in baseball, and even quite a bit higher tha some. Izzy is actuallyleading ghe NL with 11 saves, but he has an ERA of 6.60 and has 3 blown saves.
Quote from: Thee Atlanta Braves Fan on May 07, 2008, 11:28:36 pmThat's just some of the more estabished closers throughout the league. So Izzy is sitting at 1.53 right now, and for his career he has a WHIP of 1.31. So his career WHIP is a little higher than some of the more established closers in baseball, and even quite a bit higher tha some. Izzy is actuallyleading ghe NL with 11 saves, but he has an ERA of 6.60 and has 3 blown saves.
I knew 1.3 wasn't good (site I got my number from probably didn't include tonights game) but wasn't sure where it was among RP's.
On ERA, I don't look at that as much, espicially for closers. They give up 1 run and they are basically doomed with the stat unless they come back and have about 5 good innings. Was listening to ESPN Radio one night and he said a more telling stat for closers was WHIP, not ERA.
Early season ERA"s for closers are either going to be very low or very high. They are right when saying ERA isn't as telling of a stat as WHIP is for closers and relievers.
Ankiel.
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200805072655396
Great, I pull Carlos Gomez (Torii Hunter's replacement) out of my fantasy lineup and he hits for the cycle. Oh well, go Twins!
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on May 08, 2008, 04:29:15 pm
Great, I pull Carlos Gomez (Torii Hunter's replacement) out of my fantasy lineup and he hits for the cycle. Oh well, go Twins!
I left 18 points on my bench last night as Greinke got a win and fanned 8 Angels last night, while Wang got me -3. I'm gonna get screwed in our league with the cap on IP being 1150.
If my league wasn't a league where you can't make transactions throughout the season I probably would have picked up Carlos Gomez in the first week of the season. He's been a stud so far.
In my money league I'm still sitting in second, even though my 1st round pick Jimmy Rollins is on the DL, my 3B Josh Fields is going to be playing AAA ball the rest of the summer unless Thome gets injured or Crede starts playing terrible all of a sudden, and my catcher Jarred Saltalamacchia just recently got called up from AAA but I'm guessing he won't be in the lineup or even on the big league roster every day. Luckily for me my pitching staff is doing beyond great so far.
Here is a run down of my starting pitchers and their records.
Brandon Webb: 8-0 (incouding his complete game win today)
Josh Beckett: 3-2 (Game in progress)
Chien-Ming Wang: 6-1
Ervin Santana: 6-0
Zach Greinke: 4-1
Micah Owings: 4-1
That's 31-5 and I could add another win tonight. That doesn't even include my 2 RP's that throw in Francisco Rodriguez and Kevin Gregg.
Quote from: Ken Griffey Jr. on May 07, 2008, 11:17:56 pm
Another bright spot for Cincinnati, Edinson Volquez has been virtually unbeatable this year. He struck out 10 today in 7 innings of work. He is 5-1 on the year with a 1.06 ERA. Unfortunately, with it being finals week, I haven't been able to check my fantasy team in the last few days and Volquez was on the bench.
It won't be long before Baker ruins another promising career.
LOL
Yes, just give the Lizard time.
In other non-Cardinals/Cubs news, Atlanta beat the Padres 6-5 today. The Braves have won 6 in a row and Chipper may be playing as well or better than anyone else in the NL not named Chase Utley.
They're not new, but still funny.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JMcHIgOM-Ag
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eBSt6O6C96Y&feature=related
Quote from: RHS on May 08, 2008, 11:55:15 pm
They're not new, but still funny.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JMcHIgOM-Ag
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eBSt6O6C96Y&feature=related
What you don't realize is that while he is doing that he made four pitching changes.
And also signed 3 utility players who can play 2B, SS, 3B, and both corner OF.
Quote from: SMC on May 09, 2008, 08:34:54 am
And also signed 3 utility players who can play 2B, SS, 3B, and both corner OF.
And is refusing to play young players at the end of the season in front of old guys who are batting .129. (Frick you Russel Branyon)
Isringhausen, please don't ruin my Friday night.
* Well, Izzy strikes again. I don't understand why St. Louis continues to trot him out to the mound. I can't take anymore of this.
Quote from: Infamous on May 09, 2008, 09:45:43 pm
Isringhausen, please don't ruin my Friday night.
Just ruined mine as well. Now if only I had something to drink away my sorrows with... ::) J/K. I'm really and truely sick of this crap though...Izzy plain and simple sucks right now and I've had just about all of it I can take. He has officially crushed my friday night and pee'd me off to a pretty high degree. >:( >:( I supported that man to no end when he was recovering from his surgery but this is season number 2 since the surgery...he's gonna have to come up with some other reason for sucking hind tit this time and my support is bordering on the verge of GONE! >:(
One has to wonder: Does Isringhausen carry stock in Rogaine or some sort of heart medication?
Or maybe it's for some sort of antacid: This call to the bullpen is brought to you by Rolaids. Remember: Relief is spelled R-O-L-A-I-D-S and not I-S-R-I-N-G-H-A-U-S-E-N.
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on May 09, 2008, 10:01:51 pm
Quote from: Infamous on May 09, 2008, 09:45:43 pm
Isringhausen, please don't ruin my Friday night.
Just ruined mine as well. Now if only I had something to drink away my sorrows with... ::) J/K. I'm really and truely sick of this crap though...Izzy plain and simple sucks right now and I've had just about all of it I can take. He has officially crushed my friday night and pee'd me off to a pretty high degree. >:( >:( I supported that man to no end when he was recovering from his surgery but this is season number 2 since the surgery...he's gonna have to come up with some other reason for sucking hind tit this time and my support is bordering on the verge of GONE! >:(
Now Stacy, he told the Hungarian that he was going to "get back to basics." ::)
Quote from: Infamous on May 09, 2008, 10:07:20 pm
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on May 09, 2008, 10:01:51 pm
Quote from: Infamous on May 09, 2008, 09:45:43 pm
Isringhausen, please don't ruin my Friday night.
Just ruined mine as well. Now if only I had something to drink away my sorrows with... ::) J/K. I'm really and truely sick of this crap though...Izzy plain and simple sucks right now and I've had just about all of it I can take. He has officially crushed my friday night and pee'd me off to a pretty high degree. >:( >:( I supported that man to no end when he was recovering from his surgery but this is season number 2 since the surgery...he's gonna have to come up with some other reason for sucking hind tit this time and my support is bordering on the verge of GONE! >:(
Now Stacy, he told the Hungarian that he was going to "get back to basics." ::)
Well he should have told him he was going to "GET OUT OF OUR BULLPEN" until he quits sucking every night of his life. I'm just to the point of wanting to be physically ill every time I see that man step onto the field. Last summer when my family and I were in ST.Louis vacationing and catching a few games there was a lot of talk on the radio about the Cards maybe CONSIDERING trading Izzy, especially with the huge need we had for starting pitchers at the time...and I remember throwing a 2 year old hissy fit tantrum saying how big of a mistake it would be to trade him and that we didn't need to let him go to be able to go after starting pitcher we just needed Jockety to open up his pocket book and go get one. So now I'm pretty much saying ISRINGHAUSEN FOR SALE!!!
I have that same feeling of nausea rush over me when I see Izzy warming up in the bullpen.
What's ironic is that Dan and Al were talking about the differences between Tony and Dave's philosophy on building a pitching staff. Tony believed that you had to start from the closer because if you didn't have a shut down closer you weren't going to win many games. How true that belief is.
Entering this season, the glaring concerns were the starting rotation and who was going to step up and help Pujols offensively. So far, the pitching staff has been one of the best in baseball and Ankiel and Ludwick have supplied Pujols with plenty of help. Hopefully, Tony realizes that he has a contender, and that he has to do something before it gets out of hand.
I heard them talking about that too. Tony believed that you build from the closer up because if you didn't have a sure fire shut down you weren't going to play championship level ball, but Duncan believed that you build it from the starter because with out that being solid you wouldn't even contend to begin with. I understand both philosophies but I have to say that Tony's is proving it self to be the better one almost nightly right now. Our rotation has stepped up more than any of us ever expected, our bats are swinging ridiculous right now with more support for Pujols that we could have begged for...but it's proving to do no good every single night because no matter how much the rest of the team shows up Izzy shows up only to suck it up. The team wont take it for long...the starting pitchers have to be about ready to lose their minds right now and I imagine his teammates are just about sick of busting their butts to keep this team playing at the level that it is right now only to still lose every time Izzy takes the mound and blows their hard work. I just can't stand to watch the team do so great and then still fall short every fricking game that Izzy comes in to. I'm just going to start turning the channel when he is in because I can't stand to watch his blow one more single game!
[/end meltdown]
Ok..it's time for me to take a step back from the comp and remember to breathe before I blow a fuse.
I firmly believe that Wainwright should have never vacated the closer's role. It's not often that you find a player that is that comfortable performing in those situations.
Quote from: Infamous on May 09, 2008, 10:50:10 pm
I firmly believe that Wainwright should have never vacated the closer's role. It's not often that you find a player that is that comfortable performing in those situations.
Which is exactly why I was so relieved that we kept Papelbon in the closers role and didn't put him in the rotation last season. He may have had a hiccup tonight, but he is still the best closer in the game.
I also agree that Wainwright would do a great job at closer for St. Louis.
Anyone see James Shields' performance tonight? Complete game 1 hit shutout against a really solid Angels team. Longoria hit a walk off 2 run homer to give Tampa the win. I think most people are starting to realize the Rays are a dang good baseball team. Heck, they're only 2 1/2 games behind the Sox in the East right now.
Check out these Izzy quotes:
Isringhausen, who has a major-league high five blown save chances to go along with his NL-best 11 saves, said it's time for him to sit down with Cardinals general manager John Mozeliak, manager Tony La Russa and pitching coach Dave Duncan and figure out what to do.
"I'm just getting sick of embarrassing myself and letting my team down," Isringhausen said. "We should be five more wins in the win column in my mind, so we should be ahead in first place even more. But they can't keep sending me out there when I'm pitching the way I'm pitching.
"We're going to have to figure out some kind of remedy. I'm sure that remedy will give me some time off and get somebody in there that can do a better job right now. ... I'm just pitching like a second grader."
Quote from: Infamous on May 09, 2008, 09:45:43 pm
Isringhausen, please don't ruin my Friday night.
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Quote from: Fukudome on May 10, 2008, 12:33:34 am
Izzy is some kind of bad. Surely they won't keep him as the closer
I hope they do. He will provide great comic relief.
Quote from: Infamous on May 09, 2008, 10:07:20 pm
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on May 09, 2008, 10:01:51 pm
Quote from: Infamous on May 09, 2008, 09:45:43 pm
Isringhausen, please don't ruin my Friday night.
Just ruined mine as well. Now if only I had something to drink away my sorrows with... ::) J/K. I'm really and truely sick of this crap though...Izzy plain and simple sucks right now and I've had just about all of it I can take. He has officially crushed my friday night and pee'd me off to a pretty high degree. >:( >:( I supported that man to no end when he was recovering from his surgery but this is season number 2 since the surgery...he's gonna have to come up with some other reason for sucking hind tit this time and my support is bordering on the verge of GONE! >:(
Now Stacy, he told the Hungarian that he was going to "get back to basics." ::)
I met Al Hrabosky last year. He spoke at my baseball team's banquet. It was pretty entertaining.
Quote from: Fukudome on May 10, 2008, 12:33:34 am
Izzy is some kind of bad. What are they planning on doing to figure this all out? Surely they won't keep him as the closer, then again, who else would they put there? It's not like good closers are readily available on the trade market.
Lilly pitched a gem for us today beating the D-backs and striking out ten. I guess that magic number took a step back today.
Closers, and NFL kickers are the biggest head cases in sports. There have been countless closers that have been dominant for one season and then absolutley horrible the next. Being a big league closer or NFL kicker is much more mental than it is anything else.
Screw it Cards are still in first.
Quote from: Thee Atlanta Braves Fan™ on May 10, 2008, 02:54:10 amClosers, and NFL kickers are the biggest head cases in sports. There have been countless closers that have been dominant for one season and then absolutley horrible the next. Being a big league closer or NFL kicker is much more mental than it is anything else.
Case in point, Brad Lidge. That guy is just now returning to somewhat normal despite giving up that bomb to Pujols 3 years ago.
It's now official: Cards have removed Izzy from the closer's role for the time being.
Quote from: SouthpawSensation on May 10, 2008, 03:27:47 pm
It's now official: Cards have removed Izzy from the closer's role for the time being.
THANK GOD!
In other Cardinal news, Fielder just hit a home run for the Brewers in the 8th to tie the score at 3-3.
In other news, the frugal Florida Marlins locked up Hanley Ramirez with a six year, $70 million dollar extension. The deal is the largest in franchise history, and it would average $11.7 million annually.
In contrast, the Marlins' highest paid player this year is closer Kevin Gregg at $2.5 million.
Cardinals@ Brewers, Cardinals win 5-3.
Quote from: InfamousHound on May 10, 2008, 05:27:16 pm
In other news, the frugal Florida Marlins locked up Hanley Ramirez with a six year, $70 million dollar extension. The deal is the largest in franchise history, and it would average $11.7 million annually.
In contrast, the Marlins' highest paid player this year is closer Kevin Gregg at $2.5 million.
Hanley is going to be worth every bit of it. The kid is a stud. Could you imagine how good the Red Sox would be if they hadn't ever let him go?
Quote from: InfamousHound on May 10, 2008, 05:27:16 pm
In other news, the frugal Florida Marlins locked up Hanley Ramirez with a six year, $70 million dollar extension. The deal is the largest in franchise history, and it would average $11.7 million annually.
In contrast, the Marlins' highest paid player this year is closer Kevin Gregg at $2.5 million.
They are going to have to spend a lot of money to keep the talent they have in the minor's in a few years as well.
This is a great signing by the Marlins' brass. They have an emerging superstar to build around for the next six years, it shows the fans that they are committing to fielding a competitor, and this move should secure the funding for their new ballpark which is scheduled to open in 2011.
Also, it's good to see that they're actually investing some of the $60 million that is given to them annually by MLB into the team. It's sad when Alex Rodriguez's salary outweighs your team's entire payroll.
Marlins have a great system they just need to use the money to keep talent in place.
They definitely have some of the best scouts in the game. There's a reason why they have scouts assigned to each of the other 29 team's farm systems.
Quote from: Thee Atlanta Braves Fan™ on May 10, 2008, 06:15:53 pm
Could you imagine how good the Red Sox would be if they hadn't ever let him go?
Definitely an interesting question, but on the other hand we wouldn't have Beckett and Lowell. Without those two we don't win the World Series last year, so while it was extremely tough to let Hanley go, the deal has worked out brilliantly for both sides.
I'm glad to see Florida finally step up and pay somebody. It's ridiculous that their owner just pockets most all of the money they're given in revenue sharing every year.
I knew they were part of the deal that sent Hanley to the Marlins, but ya gotta think if you could have kept Hanley somehow and got Lowell or another pitcher it would be interesting. I honestly think in the end Hanley is a more valuable player than Beckett. Hanley hasn't even begun to embark on what should be a great career.
Quote from: SouthpawSensation on May 10, 2008, 03:27:47 pm
It's now official: Cards have removed Izzy from the closer's role for the time being.
I must be living right for something that good to happen.
Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on May 11, 2008, 01:46:21 am
Quote from: SouthpawSensation on May 10, 2008, 03:27:47 pm
It's now official: Cards have removed Izzy from the closer's role for the time being.
I must be living right for something that good to happen.
Everybody gets lucky now and then.
Izzy is just the latest in a line of failures in the pen for many teams.
Braves included. >:(
ION, Edmonds looks to be retiring. He just didn't look the same this year.
Quote from: Quite Frankly 4 of 6 on May 11, 2008, 09:39:30 am
Edmonds looks to be retiring. He just didn't look the same this year.
He sucked last year too.
Quite a few rainouts today. Three so far, another game in a rain delay right now.
Yep, he seemed to be covering some kind of ailment.
It's so sad when guys just don't know when to quit. But of course when they make so much $$$$, it compounds it.
Rain ruining my Braves game too. But of course I should probably let the 'other' Braves fan mention that once he wakes up.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 11, 2008, 02:27:28 pm
Quite a few rainouts today. Three so far, another game in a rain delay right now.
It completely killed my fantasy teams. I think between the two, I had 8 or 9 players not able to get me points.
I'm having a good fantasy day. Beltran, Hermida and Crawford all have gone yard for me so far. Jose Lopez off to a 2 for 2 start as well.
In the hitter friendly league I am doing OK with 50 points. But with Brian Roberts not starting, and Teixeria, McLouth, Abreu, Carmona and Betancourt all being PPD, I left JJ Hardy on the bench, who has 13 points.
Magic number update?
Cubs sweep Arizona.
Quote from: Quite Frankly 4 of 6 on May 11, 2008, 02:31:45 pm
Rain ruining my Braves game too. But of course I should probably let the 'other' Braves fan mention that once he wakes up.
Thank you. And it's when you say things like
my Braves, and
the noted Braves fan of the board that make you come off as an annoying pompus know-it-all. Even if you don't mean to do it.
The Braves game is being postponed as well in case no one knew.
Quote from: RHS on May 10, 2008, 01:13:00 pm
Quote from: Thee Atlanta Braves Fan™ on May 10, 2008, 02:54:10 amClosers, and NFL kickers are the biggest head cases in sports. There have been countless closers that have been dominant for one season and then absolutley horrible the next. Being a big league closer or NFL kicker is much more mental than it is anything else.
Case in point, Brad Lidge. That guy is just now returning to somewhat normal despite giving up that bomb to Pujols 3 years ago.
It doesn't take much. All they need is giving up one big homer in a crucial game or missing a kick in a big game and they could ruin their careers or best just plain average the rest of it.
Craig Monroe hits a 3 run homer in the 2nd to take a 3-0 lead over Boston. Monroe leads the AL in batting average while runners are in scoring percentage.
Adam Everett just hit the 2nd home run of the inning to put the Twins up 5-0 with 1 out. Gomez just singled to center. Wakefield isn't going to be in much longer.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on May 11, 2008, 07:47:46 pm
Adam Everett just hit the 2nd home run of the inning to put the Twins up 5-0 with 1 out. Gomez just singled to center. Wakefield isn't going to be in much longer.
He needs to hang it up.
I recommend the game on ESPN :). Nick just got out of that inning. Boston had the bases loaded with 0 outs and Lamb made a awesome diving stop at third to get Yukolis out. Cuddyer made a beautiful 1 hop throw from right field that nearly got Ellsbury out. It was right on the money. Boston scores only 1 to make it 5-1 going into the bottom of the third.
Ugh, gag me. 7-1 Twins after 3 innings.
You just never know what you're going to get with Wake. His last start he pitched 8 shutout innings at Detroit, and tonight he looks awful. I mean, when Adam Everett hits a homer off you, you know it's gonna be a LONG night.
Quote from: Thee Atlanta Braves Fan™ on May 11, 2008, 05:56:38 pm
Quote from: Quite Frankly 4 of 6 on May 11, 2008, 02:31:45 pm
Rain ruining my Braves game too. But of course I should probably let the 'other' Braves fan mention that once he wakes up.
Thank you. And it's when you say things like my Braves, and the noted Braves fan of the board that make you come off as an annoying pompus know-it-all. Even if you don't mean to do it.
Sounds like you have a little attitude yourself. If you think I come across that way then quit reading. It's your problem crybaby.
Now go report to your little circle that you did your duty.
Coco Crisp hits a 2 run homer to cut the lead to 8-6.
Jeff, I'm surprised you didn't mention Pat Neshek being out for the season. That is a HUGE blow to the Twins.
I am going to miss Jimmy "Ballgame" Edmonds. He was one of my favorites over the last decade.
Quote from: Quite Frankly 4 of 6 on May 11, 2008, 09:13:05 pmSounds like you have a little attitude yourself. If you think I come across that way then quit reading. It's your problem crybaby.
Like it or not, he is right. You remind me of the Shiloh 3.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 11, 2008, 09:31:31 pm
Coco Crisp hits a 2 run homer to cut the lead to 8-6.
Jeff, I'm surprised you didn't mention Pat Neshek being out for the season. That is a HUGE blow to the Twins.
I haven't really been posting too much in this thread just because I know nobody cares about the Twins. There are some BoSox fans on here though, like yourself, so I figured I would today. Yeah, hopefully he can recover and come back good next year. A tear in his elbow could be a nagging injury. Our pitching is already not that great. Neshek is a pretty go reliever, but as good as our offense has been we haven't had to have great pitching. In the last 3 weeks we have had a 13, 12, and 11 run game. Our offense is starting to click. Hopefully it can continue to be productive as the season goes on because we will need it.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on May 12, 2008, 01:37:40 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 11, 2008, 09:31:31 pm
Jeff, I'm surprised you didn't mention Pat Neshek being out for the season. That is a HUGE blow to the Twins.
I haven't really been posting too much in this thread just because I know nobody cares about the Twins. There are some BoSox fans on here though, like yourself, so I figured I would today. Yeah, hopefully he can recover and come back good next year. A tear in his elbow could be a nagging injury. Our pitching is already not that great. Neshek is a pretty go reliever, but as good as our offense has been we haven't had to have great pitching. In the last 3 weeks we have had a 13, 12, and 11 run game. Our offense is starting to click. Hopefully it can continue to be productive as the season goes on because we will need it.
Yeah, Minnesota's offense has put up some pretty good numbers so far. Talk about the Twins all you want. Heck, I'll talk about anything baseball related, and right now the Twins are playing really well. Where did yall get this 2B Matt Tolbert? Saw him play tonight for the first time and didn't recognize him. I'm guessing he's a AAA call-up?
Quote from: Quite Frankly 4 of 6 on May 11, 2008, 09:13:05 pm
Quote from: Thee Atlanta Braves Fan™ on May 11, 2008, 05:56:38 pm
Quote from: Quite Frankly 4 of 6 on May 11, 2008, 02:31:45 pm
Rain ruining my Braves game too. But of course I should probably let the 'other' Braves fan mention that once he wakes up.
Thank you. And it's when you say things like my Braves, and the noted Braves fan of the board that make you come off as an annoying pompus know-it-all. Even if you don't mean to do it.
Sounds like you have a little attitude yourself. If you think I come across that way then quit reading. It's your problem crybaby.
Now go report to your little circle that you did your duty.
Crybaby? Don't think I've been called that since I was in the 1st grade. And what little circle? My self esteem isn't so low that I have the need to report to any kind of "circle" everytime I say anything derrogatory to you or anyone else.
That's not really a denial.
Again, do what makes you and your buddies giggle. It matters not.
As soon as I figure out who these buddies are you keep referring to I'll hop right on that.
::)
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 12, 2008, 01:51:24 am
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on May 12, 2008, 01:37:40 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 11, 2008, 09:31:31 pm
Jeff, I'm surprised you didn't mention Pat Neshek being out for the season. That is a HUGE blow to the Twins.
I haven't really been posting too much in this thread just because I know nobody cares about the Twins. There are some BoSox fans on here though, like yourself, so I figured I would today. Yeah, hopefully he can recover and come back good next year. A tear in his elbow could be a nagging injury. Our pitching is already not that great. Neshek is a pretty go reliever, but as good as our offense has been we haven't had to have great pitching. In the last 3 weeks we have had a 13, 12, and 11 run game. Our offense is starting to click. Hopefully it can continue to be productive as the season goes on because we will need it.
Yeah, Minnesota's offense has put up some pretty good numbers so far. Talk about the Twins all you want. Heck, I'll talk about anything baseball related, and right now the Twins are playing really well. Where did yall get this 2B Matt Tolbert? Saw him play tonight for the first time and didn't recognize him. I'm guessing he's a AAA call-up?
He has been on the Twins mostly all year. He is basically a utility player though because he plays anywhere in the infield. Him and Brendon Harris rotate at 2nd a lot though.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 11, 2008, 10:47:23 pm
I am going to miss Jimmy "Ballgame" Edmonds. He was one of my favorites over the last decade.
Same here dude! He has been a favorite of mine and my brother's for a very long time now. Losing him was so hard on my brother, he literally almost cried...Jim Edmonds has been his favorite player as well as hero since he was very little and first got into baseball. His room is decked out in Cardinals stuff but his favorite of it all is all of his Edmonds stuff and there is a TON of it. Has he for sure said he's hanging it up?? I know the Padres let him go but last I heard he was saying he didn't think he was done yet...but he has to have someone ready to give him a shot though?? It'll be another very sad day in my house if he's really hanging it all up! :'(
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on May 12, 2008, 11:29:25 am
Has he for sure said he's hanging it up??
I don't think he has, but it's pretty much accepted that he will. No team in MLB is desperate enough that they actually need Edmonds on their roster. Not only has his hitting been horrendus, but his defense hasn't been good either. There have been quite a few balls I've seen this year that a few years ago he got to with ease, but now he can't even get to them. He would definitely be well served to go ahead and retire now.
Pirates beat the Braves 5-0 this afternoon in Game 1 of their DH today. Pittsburg has now won 6 in a row and going for the 4 game sweep later this afternoon. Atlanta has scored a TOTAL of 4 runs in the 3 games this weekend. Now that is bad, against the Pirates no less.
Braves are simply two-faced right now. Great at home and horrible on the road.
But will leave crybaby to elaborate on it.
Quote from: Quite Frankly 4 of 6 on May 12, 2008, 02:46:18 pm
Braves are simply two-faced right now. Great at home and horrible on the road.
Having fun wallowing in 4th in the east?
Hate to say it, but the Braves suck.
Quote from: Quite Frankly 4 of 6 on May 12, 2008, 02:46:18 pm
Braves are simply two-faced right now. Great at home and horrible on the road.
Tried to tell you Braves fans about the Marlins at the start of the season. :)
Righted the ship this afternoon winning 8-1. Hudson back on track. I'm die hard and sure as heck don't sweat the month of May.
Have your fun. I'll have mine.
Quote from: Quite Frankly 4 of 6 on May 12, 2008, 05:56:23 pm
Righted the ship this afternoon winning 8-1. Hudson back on track. I'm die hard and sure as heck don't sweat the month of May.
Have your fun. I'll have mine.
To be honest I want FL starting pitching to crumble expect for Miller, you know for personal reasons lol.
I certainly understand that. But it's kind of hard to cheer against the Marlins. That lower payroll and work ethic makes them a likable underdog when they play everyone except the Braves and Cards.
Quote from: Quite Frankly 4 of 6 on May 12, 2008, 06:07:22 pm
I certainly understand that. But it's kind of hard to cheer against the Marlins. That lower payroll and work ethic makes them a likable underdog when they play everyone except the Braves and Cards.
I know and they are FUN to watch. I would really like them to make a deep run this year.
Quote from: Quite Frankly 4 of 6 on May 12, 2008, 05:56:23 pm
I'm die hard and sure as heck don't sweat the month of May.
With the obvious holes that Atlanta has... how can you not at least be a little worried? Sure it's only May, but it's not like the bullpen woes and average starting pitching are just going to go away over time.
I don't worry in a sense that it's not something to cause me worry. Or that is to say it's just a game. Through Sat they led the league in ERA and batting AVG. They can't be too bad.
Now being happy about some of those losses is another matter....
I'll just say I am a fan and believe they will correct the ship. :)
The announcers in the Cards/Brewers game either just said the Cubs are thinking about signing Jim Edmonds, or they did sign him.
I'm too afraid to rewind the DVR. I would have to go lock myself in a room and cry for a few days if true.
Haaaaahahahaha.
Here is the last thing on MLB.com:
http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080509&content_id=2670127&vkey=news_stl&fext=.jsp&c_id=stl
I would not be surprised to see them sign him and let him retire as a Card.
Quote from: RHS on May 12, 2008, 03:37:53 pm
Quote from: Quite Frankly 4 of 6 on May 12, 2008, 02:46:18 pm
Braves are simply two-faced right now. Great at home and horrible on the road.
Having fun wallowing in 4th in the east?
Hate to say it, but the Braves suck.
Can't exactly say they suck. They aren't good by any stretch of the imagination but they don't suck. The Mets and Phillies aren't blowing people out of the water either. In fact the Marlins have the best record in baseball right now. So if the Braves suck, then there are quite a few other contenders that aren't very good either.
It is only May, teams that have "staying" power will still be hanging around in playoff contention in July and August.
He is done as an everyday player. I guess I could put aside years of hating his hot-dogging azzz if he could just be a professional and platoon some in the outfield. I just don't think he offers a lot because he is always injured, has lost most of his range in CF and he strikes out a ton. Plus we'd have to send down our talented CF prospect Felix Pie to make room for him, just don't see it working for the Cubs. The only positive would be the Cubs are very right-handed heavy (Sori, Lee, ARam, DeRosa, Soto, Theriot) so a lefty would be nice.
The Cards have plenty of lefty bats in the OF so I don't see why they'd get him (Schumaker, Duncan, Ankiel).
I could see the Blue Jays being a good fit with Vernon Wells out 6-8 weeks with a broken wrist. Or maybe the Marlins as he could platoon in the OF and be the veteran presence on a young team.
uh oh...Thee Braves fans begin to stand together.
Cubs back in first place with 4 game win streak. That blown save by Izzy in Colorado has really put the Cards in a bit of a tailspin.
Fantasy baseball makes watching the games so frustrating.
I just yelled at the Astros manager on my TV for pulling Roy Oswalt after 8 innings. He had thrown about 115 pitches but I wanted those 10 points for a complete game, dangit!
Quote from: SMC on May 13, 2008, 12:02:38 am
Fantasy baseball makes watching the games so frustrating.
I actually pull for yankees to do something good because of FBB.
Only when Wang pitches. I avoided getting any of their hitters so I only have to hope they win every 5 days. The rest of the days I can cheer for them to do nothing. I also avoided getting any Cardinals or Braves (not on purpose, just happened that way) so I don't have that problem either.
I do have Tex-mex in my public league but I am so far out of contention in that one it's almost like it doesn't exist to me.
Quote from: RHS on May 13, 2008, 12:03:40 am
Quote from: SMC on May 13, 2008, 12:02:38 am
Fantasy baseball makes watching the games so frustrating.
I actually pull for yankees to do something good because of FBB.
I try not to get any Yankees on my team for that reason. I also keep from getting Cubs if possible. I had Kerry Wood on my team. And I'd be cheering for him to blow a save (since it's always fun watching Cubs blow saves), but it'd kill me when he'd get the loss.
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on May 13, 2008, 12:11:54 pmI try not to get any Yankees on my team for that reason. I also keep from getting Cubs if possible. I had Kerry Wood on my team. And I'd be cheering for him to blow a save (since it's always fun watching Cubs blow saves), but it'd kill me when he'd get the loss.
It's a double whammy if BS is a stat in your league.
I tried not to get too many yankees on my team. But when Chien Ming Wang is sitting there in the 13th round and he won 19 last year, you have to take him.
I have no problem hoping the Yanks win only 1/5 of the time. It helps that Wang isn't your typical Yankee sir type too.
In case no one has been paying attention, the Astros are on FIRE. They've won 9 of 10 and are only sitting 1 1/2 games back of the Cubs in the NL Central. Berkman hit his 13th homer last night. He is having an unbelievable season so far.
Speaking of on fire, so are the freaking Rays. They've won 5 straight and are only 1/2 a game behind the Red Sox in the AL East. It's weird. Tampa is really good, yet unless we're playing them... I can't seem to pull against them. I don't think they have enough to stay with us for an entire season, but I'd love to see them get the Wild Card. That would really be cool. They play the Yankees tonight.
Ummm Edmonds was not a "hot-dogger". He played shallow to take away bloop base hits and had the range to go get the balls deep.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 13, 2008, 08:10:43 pm
Ummm Edmonds was not a "hot-dogger". He played shallow to take away bloop base hits and had the range to go get the balls deep.
He was a hot dogger.
Quote from: RHS on May 13, 2008, 08:12:04 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 13, 2008, 08:10:43 pm
Ummm Edmonds was not a "hot-dogger". He played shallow to take away bloop base hits and had the range to go get the balls deep.
He was a hot dogger.
No.
I've never heard anyone so describe Edmonds.
For several years people debated who was a better defensive CF between Edmonds and Andruw Jones. People who say Edmonds will point out all his diving catches/basket catches/over the shoulder catches. JLo is right in that he played a very shallow CF which meant that he had to bust it to get to a lot of those balls. Jones to me was always a better defender because he made everything look routine. He wasn't always diving all over the park or getting "late" jumps on routine fly balls so he could do a back-to-the-plate over the shoulder catch.
Edmonds had a flair for the dramatic, a lot of players do. Alfonso Soriano pisses me off with his little hop routine when he catches a fly ball. I just want you to catch it. No sense in trying to recreate Willie Mays out there unless you have to. But Edmonds is a master of the Sportscenter era where if you dive or otherwise make it non-routine you get on TV.
Quote from: SMC on May 13, 2008, 08:29:21 pm
For several years people debated who was a better defensive CF between Edmonds and Andruw Jones. People who say Edmonds will point out all his diving catches/basket catches/over the shoulder catches. JLo is right in that he played a very shallow CF which meant that he had to bust it to get to a lot of those balls. Jones to me was always a better defender because he made everything look routine. He wasn't always diving all over the park or getting "late" jumps on routine fly balls so he could do a back-to-the-plate over the shoulder catch.
Edmonds had a flair for the dramatic, a lot of players do. Alfonso Soriano pisses me off with his little hop routine when he catches a fly ball. I just want you to catch it. No sense in trying to recreate Willie Mays out there unless you have to. But Edmonds is a master of the Sportscenter era where if you dive or otherwise make it non-routine you get on TV.
Watching the better portion of every season the last few years I will agree and disagree with some of those points. In his later years Edmonds would get to balls later and later and have to make diving plays. However he would never just be late to a ball so he could make a high light.
The Cardinals color guy on FSN Midwest was just comparing Ankiel to Edmonds and said what they don't get with Ankiel is the "flair" and the "little acting job" at the end of plays, because Ankiel makes the plays more routine. Again, this was the Cards announcer who said this.
My op is at the end, Edmonds made those plays with all out hustle. His natural instincts were not as good as some, but he never gave up.
The freakin Tampa Bay Rays are now in 1st place in the AL East. They just knocked off the Yankees and Mariano Rivera 2-1 in 11 innings. They're unbeatable at home. Swept Boston, swept LAA, now they've taken the first 2 from New York...
Legit.
Thank you Matsui for hitting that 9th inning bomb. Saved Wang from a loss.
Quote from: SMC on May 13, 2008, 11:23:37 pm
Thank you Matsui for hitting that 9th inning bomb. Saved Wang from a loss.
They were both on my bench, so I got nothing from either one. Beckett got me a loss and like -2 or -3 points. Micah Owings must have been scratched bc he didn't even pitch.
Edmonds to the Cubs.
WTH?
Surprising.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on May 14, 2008, 07:03:41 pm
Edmonds to the Cubs.
WTH?
Surprising.
As a Cub fan, you get used to crap rolling down hill, but I am really upset with this one. Not only is he washed up and not hitting his body weight, he is a STL legend.
They have signed guys over the years (Jaque Jones, Latroy Hawkins, even Soriano) that Cub Nation has learned to love, but I don't see it here. I hope he gets freaking booed his first time out.
It just smells of desperation and they are not in desperation mode.
yet
Quote from: Quite Frankly on May 14, 2008, 07:46:21 pm
It just smells of desperation and they are not in desperation mode.
yet
That doesn't usually happen until late August, early September. I just don't see the logic here.
Edmonds in Cubby blue makes me wish we still had Kenny Lofton.
Pinella is a results manager and he's shown that he's not going to play young guys unless they are producing. Theriot and Soto both came in and produced, and they took spots. Pie has never been able to hold down CF because of his poor hitting.
However, I wish he'd just stick with Pie because he is young and fast, covers a ton of ground in CF. Edmonds is not hitting any better than Pie is right now, and is probably worse defensively at this point in his career. Also we lose our late inning defensive sub and top pinch runner. Who is going to pinch run now? Jason Marquis?
The one thing I think will work out OK is the balancing of the lineup, Edmonds hitting 6th or 7th to give us a lefty bat at the back end so we can move Fukudome into the 2 hole finally.
Edit
LOL I found this blog post that made me laugh so hard about the singing of Edmonds:
http://out-of-rightfield.blogspot.com/2008/05/you-better-not-sign-jim-edmonds-jim.html (http://out-of-rightfield.blogspot.com/2008/05/you-better-not-sign-jim-edmonds-jim.html)
Quote from: SMC on May 14, 2008, 08:33:21 pm
Edit
LOL I found this blog post that made me laugh so hard about the singing of Edmonds:
http://out-of-rightfield.blogspot.com/2008/05/you-better-not-sign-jim-edmonds-jim.html (http://out-of-rightfield.blogspot.com/2008/05/you-better-not-sign-jim-edmonds-jim.html)
Wow..... I felt like I was reading my own thoughts posted on the web as I was thinking them......freeeeeeaky!
Cubs fans don't deserve a great guy like him. Its really sad to see him in a cubs uni.
But I've read that he is angry that the Cards didn't keep him and is hoping to stick it to yall by playing in the division and doing some damage - maybe he will endear himself to me yet.
He can be mad all he wants. We have our CF of the future anyway.
CC Sabathia threw a CG SO tonight, running the streak of IP's for Cleveland starters without allowing a run to something un-Godly. The last run they allowed was in CC's start before last night.
Quote from: RHS on May 15, 2008, 01:07:43 am
CC Sabathia threw a CG SO tonight, running the streak of IP's for Cleveland starters without allowing a run to something un-Godly. The last run they allowed was in CC's start before last night.
If Cleveland's offense gets it going they are going to be nearly impossible to beat.
It was their major league leading seventh shutout. They starters have gone 43 1/3 consecutive innings without allowing a run. In the last 5 starts, the starters have tossed 48 1/3 innings with an era of 0.19, are 5-0 and have a K:BB ratio of 37:10
Quote from: RHS on May 15, 2008, 01:35:09 am
It was their major league leading seventh shutout. They starters have gone 43 1/3 consecutive innings without allowing a run. In the last 5 starts, the starters have tossed 48 1/3 innings with an era of 0.19, are 5-0 and have a K:BB ratio of 37:10
All of this including Benton Arkansas' own Cliff Lee.
Quote from: RHS on May 15, 2008, 01:35:09 am
Their starters have gone 43 1/3 consecutive innings without allowing a run.
Well, that streak just ended at 44 2/3 innings as the A's pushed across a run. It's the 3rd longest streak in MLB history I believe though.
Brewers just re-signed Ryan Braun to an 8 year, 45 million dollar deal. It's the largest in Brewer history.
http://msn.foxsports.com/other/wcStory?contentId=8118850#story=8141962&MSNHPHMA
Quote from: RHS on May 15, 2008, 01:35:09 am
It was their major league leading seventh shutout. They starters have gone 43 1/3 consecutive innings without allowing a run. In the last 5 starts, the starters have tossed 48 1/3 innings with an era of 0.19, are 5-0 and have a K:BB ratio of 37:10
If you change it to not allowing an "earned" run, then you can add another 7 innings to it today. Laffey allowed one unearned run in 7 innings against the A's.
Quote from: RHS on May 15, 2008, 01:11:58 pm
Brewers just re-signed Ryan Braun to an 8 year, 45 million dollar deal. It's the largest in Brewer history.
http://msn.foxsports.com/other/wcStory?contentId=8118850#story=8141962&MSNHPHMA
The Rays also locked up Kazmir yesterday with a 3 year 28 million extension. They signed Longoria to a long term deal a few weeks ago too. They're quietly making some very good moves.
Attention Tony La Russa:
STOP PUTTING IZZY IN THE EFFING GAME WHEN ITS CLOSE!!!!
Signed,
All Cardinals fans
What happened to Izzy today? He looked good yesterday with a 1-2-3 9th (albeit with a 4 run lead).
Quote from: SMC on May 15, 2008, 03:08:58 pm
What happened to Izzy today? He looked good yesterday with a 1-2-3 9th (albeit with a 4 run lead).
(http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/2993852.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934A2752006EF5F0ED2DAE5B0B0FA6615F5A5397277B4DC33E)
1/3 IP while giving up 4 runs (3 earned), walking two and giving up a bomb. When he came in the Cards were up 5-4.
It's time for Izzy to play outfield.
No, it's time for him to go. Period. End of story.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on May 15, 2008, 03:45:50 pm
It's time for Izzy to play outfield.
He can't suck any worse there than he is at the mound right now so I'M ALL FOR IT!! heck Ankiel may be better suited for the mound than Izzy right now and THATS SAYING SOMETHING! I can't take it any more!
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 15, 2008, 03:07:17 pm
Attention Tony La Russa:
STOP PUTTING IZZY IN THE EFFING GAME WHEN ITS CLOSE!!!!
Signed,
All Cardinals fans
Well, you won't have to worry about any potential Isringhausen appearances for at least the next couple of weeks. He's landed on the 15 day DL after striking a television set with his right hand in LaRussa's office last weekend.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3399784
LOL that is an awesome injury (if true).
I can see this being a fake injury just to give him some time off to regroup. Although, they shouldn't have made up an embarassing story if that was the case.
Cubs won again today. Won 6 of 7, and 8 of 10.
Interleague play is here, and you know what that means. Time to feast on the NL once again. This year the AL East is matched up with the NL Central. Can't wait to we annihilate the Cardinals in around a month. That should be fun.
Go American League. A real league, if you will. :)
Ah interleague play, the time of year when the only "intrigue" is where the AL team will put their fat DH in the field.
This concept is so tired. I am an NL guy and just enjoy watching that style of game with the pitcher hitting, the double switches, etc.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 16, 2008, 06:23:40 pm
Interleague play is here, and you know what that means. Time to feast on the NL once again. This year the AL East is matched up with the NL Central. Can't wait to we annihilate the Cardinals in around a month. That should be fun.
Go American League. A real league, if you will. :)
Who took the series the previous two times Boston and St. Louis met in interleague play?
Quote from: InfamousHound on May 16, 2008, 06:30:51 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 16, 2008, 06:23:40 pm
Interleague play is here, and you know what that means. Time to feast on the NL once again. This year the AL East is matched up with the NL Central. Can't wait to we annihilate the Cardinals in around a month. That should be fun.
Go American League. A real league, if you will. :)
Who took the series the previous two times Boston and St. Louis met in interleague play?
Who took it when it mattered most?
Quote from: RHS on May 16, 2008, 09:51:58 pm
Quote from: InfamousHound on May 16, 2008, 06:30:51 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 16, 2008, 06:23:40 pm
Interleague play is here, and you know what that means. Time to feast on the NL once again. This year the AL East is matched up with the NL Central. Can't wait to we annihilate the Cardinals in around a month. That should be fun.
Go American League. A real league, if you will. :)
Who took the series the previous two times Boston and St. Louis met in interleague play?
Who took it when it mattered most?
Har har.
I have to cling onto something.
Quote from: RHS on May 16, 2008, 09:51:58 pm
Who took it when it mattered most?
Exactly. One of the most lopsided WS of all time, right up there with 2007. :D
Cardinals got a taste of what it's like to play in the AL East tonight facing the Rays. Tampa Bay has some really, really good pitching. (never thought I'd say that) Have fun with them this weekend. You actually get a little bit of a break considering St. Louis won't be seeing Kazmir or Shields, their 1-2 guys.
What a gem by Andy Sonnanstine (good job Kirk)
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 16, 2008, 11:41:04 pm
Quote from: RHS on May 16, 2008, 09:51:58 pm
Who took it when it mattered most?
Exactly. One of the most lopsided WS of all time, right up there with 2007. :D
Cardinals got a taste of what it's like to play in the AL East tonight facing the Rays. Tampa Bay has some really, really good pitching. (never thought I'd say that) Have fun with them this weekend. You actually get a little bit of a break considering St. Louis won't be seeing Kazmir or Shields, their 1-2 guys.
Tampa Bay's slowly becoming a contender. Wait until David Price gets up in the next year or two. Their pitching staff is going to be unbelievable.
Quote from: Rizzo on May 17, 2008, 12:34:07 amTampa Bay's slowly becoming a contender. Wait until David Price gets up in the next year or two. Their pitching staff is going to be unbelievable.
It's a scary thought. They're actually making really some good moves too, meaning spending some of that cash they've been stocking away for so many years. Longoria and Kazmir are locked up for quite a few years, and I'm sure they'll do the same with some of their other young stars. Some may expect them to eventually fade, but I think they are without a doubt in this thing for the long haul.
Crawford is only 27 and Pena 30, two more guys who are big pieces to the puzzle for the next 5 years. Iwamura is having a nice year as well.
Check out how many key young players they have.
Starting roation:
Scott Kazmir - 24
James Shields - 26
Andy Sonnanstine - 25
Matt Garza - 24
Edwin Jackson - 24
All under 26. And all good pitchers.
Longoria - 22
Crawford - 27
Pena - 30
Upton - 23
Gomes - 27
Navarro - 24
They're going to be good for a while.
Side note here, but what in the world is Rocco Baldelli doing these days? I realize he has had some extremely bad injury problems in the past, but is he on the freaking 10 year DL or what? He had a lot of potential and some blazing speed.
I saw Longoria hit one that still hasn't landed a few years ago in the Cape Cod league.
Quote from: SMC on May 16, 2008, 11:43:45 pm
What a gem by Andy Sonnanstine (good job Kirk)
Yeah, too bad it was only like 6-7 points.
Cards even the series with a 9-8 win in extras.
Oh how I love playing the National League. The Red Sox swept their DH with the Brewers today 5-3 and 7-6. And while each team only gets 6 interleague series each year, it's definitely nice to play the NL and get a break in the schedule. :)
With the Rays loss and Red Sox sweep today we're tied atop the AL East again.
AL East
GB
Red Sox 26-19 --
Rays 25-18 --
Orioles 23-19 1.5
Blue Jays 22-23 4
Yankees 20-23 5
LOL
Quote from: SMC on May 16, 2008, 06:26:21 pm
Ah interleague play, the time of year when the only "intrigue" is where the AL team will put their fat DH in the field.
This concept is so tired. I am an NL guy and just enjoy watching that style of game with the pitcher hitting, the double switches, etc.
Being a Braves fan I also have always enjoyed the NL style of play more. No DH makes for much more strategery late in games, and in my mind is "pure" baseball, since the DH wasn't added until the 70's.
However, there is no denying that the last 4 or 5 years or so the AL has been the league with more quality teams.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 17, 2008, 11:36:14 pm
Oh how I love playing the National League. The Red Sox swept their DH with the Brewers today 5-3 and 7-6. And while each team only gets 6 interleague series each year, it's definitely nice to play the NL and get a break in the schedule. :)
With the Rays loss and Red Sox sweep today we're tied atop the AL East again.
You know I like ya. But its still old. Bah......
Right now, the Reds and Indians are in a pitchers duel with Cliff Lee and Edinson Volquez, the AL and NL leaders in ERA, squaring off against each other. Cincinnati is leading 1-0 in the top of the 3rd, and is going for their 6th straight win and a 3 game sweep of the Indians.
Cleveland tied it in the top of the 4th with 2 out RBI single by Casey Blake. Cincinnati answered back in the 4th with a solo shot by Dunn in the bottom of the inning. Reds up 2-1 in the top of the 5th.
In the bottom of the 5th, Cincinnati got 2-out RBI singles from Griffey and Brandon Phillips to go up 4-1. In the top of the 6th, Cleveland answered with a solo home run. The Reds then added 2 more in the bottom of the 6th with a 2-out double by Javier Valentin, then a pinch hit home run from Joey Votto. 2 out hits have been key for the Reds today, 5 of their 6 runs were with 2 outs so far. Both pitchers are done, Volquez is set up for the win after going 6 innings and only giving up 2 ER. Cliff Lee, who had only given up 5 total runs all year, gave up 5 earned runs in 5.2 innings.
Cardinals have tied it up with the Rays in the bottom of the 8th 4 all. Albert is now at the plate with a chance to give us the lead.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 18, 2008, 03:59:47 pm
Cardinals have tied it up with the Rays in the bottom of the 8th 4 all. Albert is now at the plate with a chance to give us the lead.
Gosh dangit. There goes 3 more points for me as Edwin Jackson was in line for the win.
The Red Sox just swept the Brewers 11-7. Nice to get back on track at home where we have the best record in baseball at 17-5. Papi hit 2 homers today, giving him 3 in his past 4 games.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 18, 2008, 04:04:11 pm
The Red Sox just swept the Brewers 11-7. Nice to get back on track at home where we have the best record in baseball at 17-5. Papi hit 2 homers today, giving him 3 in his past 4 games.
Nice to see the Brew crew go down in style.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 18, 2008, 04:06:04 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 18, 2008, 04:04:11 pm
The Red Sox just swept the Brewers 11-7. Nice to get back on track at home where we have the best record in baseball at 17-5. Papi hit 2 homers today, giving him 3 in his past 4 games.
Nice to see the Brew crew go down in style.
Glad to be of service. Milwaukee is now in the NL Central cellar.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 18, 2008, 04:07:33 pm
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The Red Sox just swept the Brewers 11-7. Nice to get back on track at home where we have the best record in baseball at 17-5. Papi hit 2 homers today, giving him 3 in his past 4 games.
Nice to see the Brew crew go down in style.
Glad to be of service. Milwaukee is now in the NL Central cellar.
With all of the NL Central teams having a good season (relative to the team) its not the worst place in baseball as many predicted this season.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 18, 2008, 04:04:11 pmPapi hit 2 homers today, giving him 3 in his past 4 games.
Braun has 8 in his last 8 games, including 2 today, which equals tons of points in the inflation league.
Beckett also picked up 19 solid points for me.
And Duncan pops out with the bases loaded to keep the score tied going into the 9th. With a runner on second and two outs the Rays walked a red hot Ludwick and then walked Glaus to load them but we couldn't make them pay for it.
Quote from: RHS on May 18, 2008, 04:09:35 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 18, 2008, 04:04:11 pmPapi hit 2 homers today, giving him 3 in his past 4 games.
Braun has 8 in his last 8 games, including 2 today, which equals tons of points in the inflation league.
Beckett also picked up 19 solid points for me.
Beckett got you that much in our league?
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 18, 2008, 04:09:20 pm
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The Red Sox just swept the Brewers 11-7. Nice to get back on track at home where we have the best record in baseball at 17-5. Papi hit 2 homers today, giving him 3 in his past 4 games.
Nice to see the Brew crew go down in style.
Glad to be of service. Milwaukee is now in the NL Central cellar.
With all of the NL Central teams having a good season (relative to the team) its not the worst place in baseball as many predicted this season.
Not yet. St. Louis and Houston are playing much better than most expected at this point in the season, but I also think the Brewers are underacheiving a little. There seems to be a lot more parity throughout both leagues this year than in recent years.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 18, 2008, 04:09:20 pm
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Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 18, 2008, 04:04:11 pm
The Red Sox just swept the Brewers 11-7. Nice to get back on track at home where we have the best record in baseball at 17-5. Papi hit 2 homers today, giving him 3 in his past 4 games.
Nice to see the Brew crew go down in style.
Glad to be of service. Milwaukee is now in the NL Central cellar.
With all of the NL Central teams having a good season (relative to the team) its not the worst place in baseball as many predicted this season.
Pittsburg has been quietly playing well as of late.
Houston is surging.
Cincinnati is on fire having won 6 straight.
Those are 3 teams not many people expected to do much, and them playing well recently has made it a very competitive division.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 18, 2008, 04:11:36 pm
Quote from: RHS on May 18, 2008, 04:09:35 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 18, 2008, 04:04:11 pmPapi hit 2 homers today, giving him 3 in his past 4 games.
Braun has 8 in his last 8 games, including 2 today, which equals tons of points in the inflation league.
Beckett also picked up 19 solid points for me.
Beckett got you that much in our league?
No. I don't have him in our league. If someone did though, they probably got like 8-10 points from him since he gave up 4 bombs. Don't know if he had any DP's.
That and all the world predicted the Cards to have a losing season and we are fighting for first. They had the Central right for the worst division but the wrong league.
Quote from: RHS on May 18, 2008, 04:13:40 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 18, 2008, 04:11:36 pm
Quote from: RHS on May 18, 2008, 04:09:35 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 18, 2008, 04:04:11 pmPapi hit 2 homers today, giving him 3 in his past 4 games.
Braun has 8 in his last 8 games, including 2 today, which equals tons of points in the inflation league.
Beckett also picked up 19 solid points for me.
Beckett got you that much in our league?
Yes. 9 K's and a win baby. He's doubles up my batting production and then some.
That many points from a pitcher in our league is awesome lol.
Jason La Rue is a cave man. That is all.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 18, 2008, 04:14:19 pm
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Quote from: RHS on May 18, 2008, 04:09:35 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 18, 2008, 04:04:11 pmPapi hit 2 homers today, giving him 3 in his past 4 games.
Braun has 8 in his last 8 games, including 2 today, which equals tons of points in the inflation league.
Beckett also picked up 19 solid points for me.
Beckett got you that much in our league?
Yes. 9 K's and a win baby. He's doubles up my batting production and then some.
That many points from a pitcher in our league is awesome lol.
I screwed up when i first posted. In the Ff league, he only got like 8-10 points I think.
And Skip Schumaker does it again with a game winning hit in the bottom of the 9th. Cardinals win a big one.
MLB Umpires continue to prove they suck
a HR was reversed in the Mets/Yankee$ game because the 3rd base ump is a wuss who let someone else reverse the call which he had right in the first place
NL Central looks the most competitive right now but some of those teams will fade. Namely the Reds (managed by the Lizard) and the Pirates. The Pirates certainly don't have the pitching to contend for much longer. I expect the Brewers to pass both of those teams for sure.
Reyes just hit a 3 run homer to put the Metropolitans ahead of the Yankees 11-2. It looks like it's going to be a long summer for the Bronx Bombers.
Oh and Boston your welcome for helping you get back into first. :)
Hey Josh I thought the AL East was tough? We went 2-1 this weekend! :)
Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on May 19, 2008, 12:22:49 am
Hey Josh I thought the AL East was tough? We went 2-1 this weekend! :)
Oh, it's still a tough division. St. Louis played well this weekend, but did catch a significant break not having to face the Rays 1-2 SP's Kazmir and Shields.
We'll show you how a real team plays when you come to Boston in June. Just wait. I'm anxiously awaiting that. If any Cards fan wants to man up and do an avatar bet with me or something, I'm game.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 19, 2008, 12:38:25 am
Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on May 19, 2008, 12:22:49 am
Hey Josh I thought the AL East was tough? We went 2-1 this weekend! :)
Oh, it's still a tough division. St. Louis played well this weekend, but did catch a significant break not having to face the Rays 1-2 SP's Kazmir and Shields.
We'll show you how a real team plays when you come to Boston in June. Just wait. I'm anxiously awaiting that. If any Cards fan wants to man up and do an avatar bet with me or something, I'm game.
They also did not have to face Wainwright. No Kazmir yet, but is on his way.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 19, 2008, 12:40:11 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 19, 2008, 12:38:25 am
Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on May 19, 2008, 12:22:49 am
Hey Josh I thought the AL East was tough? We went 2-1 this weekend! :)
Oh, it's still a tough division. St. Louis played well this weekend, but did catch a significant break not having to face the Rays 1-2 SP's Kazmir and Shields.
We'll show you how a real team plays when you come to Boston in June. Just wait. I'm anxiously awaiting that. If any Cards fan wants to man up and do an avatar bet with me or something, I'm game.
They also did not have to face Wainwright. No Kazmir yet, but is on his way.
J-Lo, Wainwright started on Saturday.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 19, 2008, 12:38:25 am
Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on May 19, 2008, 12:22:49 am
Hey Josh I thought the AL East was tough? We went 2-1 this weekend! :)
Oh, it's still a tough division. St. Louis played well this weekend, but did catch a significant break not having to face the Rays 1-2 SP's Kazmir and Shields.
We'll show you how a real team plays when you come to Boston in June. Just wait. I'm anxiously awaiting that. If any Cards fan wants to man up and do an avatar bet with me or something, I'm game.
Last time there was an interleague series in Boston between the Sox & Cardinals I do believe the Cards took two out of three. (I know I know, you guys won the series that year)
Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on May 19, 2008, 12:46:23 am
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Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 19, 2008, 12:38:25 am
Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on May 19, 2008, 12:22:49 am
Hey Josh I thought the AL East was tough? We went 2-1 this weekend! :)
Oh, it's still a tough division. St. Louis played well this weekend, but did catch a significant break not having to face the Rays 1-2 SP's Kazmir and Shields.
We'll show you how a real team plays when you come to Boston in June. Just wait. I'm anxiously awaiting that. If any Cards fan wants to man up and do an avatar bet with me or something, I'm game.
They also did not have to face Wainwright. No Kazmir yet, but is on his way.
J-Lo, Wainwright started on Saturday.
Well chalk down one for me then. The one game I didn't get to see.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 19, 2008, 12:38:25 am
Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on May 19, 2008, 12:22:49 am
Hey Josh I thought the AL East was tough? We went 2-1 this weekend! :)
Oh, it's still a tough division. St. Louis played well this weekend, but did catch a significant break not having to face the Rays 1-2 SP's Kazmir and Shields.
We'll show you how a real team plays when you come to Boston in June. Just wait. I'm anxiously awaiting that. If any Cards fan wants to man up and do an avatar bet with me or something, I'm game.
I'm game as well.
What are the stakes?
Quote from: InfamousHound on May 19, 2008, 12:56:01 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 19, 2008, 12:38:25 am
Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on May 19, 2008, 12:22:49 am
Hey Josh I thought the AL East was tough? We went 2-1 this weekend! :)
Oh, it's still a tough division. St. Louis played well this weekend, but did catch a significant break not having to face the Rays 1-2 SP's Kazmir and Shields.
We'll show you how a real team plays when you come to Boston in June. Just wait. I'm anxiously awaiting that. If any Cards fan wants to man up and do an avatar bet with me or something, I'm game.
I'm game as well.
What are the stakes?
I'm not a Rocket Scientist or anything, but judging from his post, my guess would be if the Red Sox win the interleague series against the Cards than any Cardinals fans that take the bet will have to put up a Red Sox avatar, and if the Cards win the series than he will put up a Cardinals avatar for a pre-determined amount of time.
I'd have to see the pitching matchups before I agreed to the deal.
Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on May 19, 2008, 03:34:39 am
I'd have to see the pitching matchups before I agreed to the deal.
Come on, go blind.
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Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 19, 2008, 12:38:25 am
Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on May 19, 2008, 12:22:49 am
Hey Josh I thought the AL East was tough? We went 2-1 this weekend! :)
Oh, it's still a tough division. St. Louis played well this weekend, but did catch a significant break not having to face the Rays 1-2 SP's Kazmir and Shields.
We'll show you how a real team plays when you come to Boston in June. Just wait. I'm anxiously awaiting that. If any Cards fan wants to man up and do an avatar bet with me or something, I'm game.
I'm game as well.
What are the stakes?
Whoever takes 2 of 3 or sweeps.
The loser of the bet has to put up either a Red Sox or Cardinals avatar and little phrase (if they want it included) for a certain period of time. Would a month be good for you?
This bet doesn't have to be limited to me and InfamousHound. Any other Cardinals fans who have some faith in their team should by all means jump in. The more the merrier. :)
Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on May 19, 2008, 03:34:39 am
I'd have to see the pitching matchups before I agreed to the deal.
Booooo.
That's part of the fun - no one knows what the matchups will even be. Have some faith in those St. Louis scrubs!
Not willing to go with Todd Wellemeyer against Josh Beckett? lol
JB, remember when we were talking about former UNC pitcher Daniel Bard the other day? Well, I did some research on him today to find out how he's doing in the Red Sox organization.
Last year he had a rough year, but he's really turned it around making the transition from SP to reliever. It's apparently a good one. In A ball he had a 0.64 ERA in 22 games, as well as a 42/4 K/BB ratio and was recently called up to AA Portland. In his debut, he pitched 1 inning striking out the side. He's got some nasty stuff and has touched 100 mph on a few occasions. Glad we've got him.
Daniel Bard was FILTHY in college. As was Andrew Miller of course.
Jim Edmonds just made his first back-to-the-plate, over the shoulder catch as a Cub. And instead of annoying it was actually quite funny this time.
Nobody see Jon Lester just throw a no-hitter?
Quote from: SMC on May 19, 2008, 08:39:02 pmNobody see Jon Lester just throw a no-hitter?
I did. Go Sox! :D
Hey Josh I'm in, but we went a month with a World Series bet, just a regular season bet lets just make it a week. (It wont be as bad having a Sox one if I lose this time)
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 19, 2008, 06:19:29 pm
JB, remember when we were talking about former UNC pitcher Daniel Bard the other day? Well, I did some research on him today to find out how he's doing in the Red Sox organization.
Last year he had a rough year, but he's really turned it around making the transition from SP to reliever. It's apparently a good one. In A ball he had a 0.64 ERA in 22 games, as well as a 42/4 K/BB ratio and was recently called up to AA Portland. In his debut, he pitched 1 inning striking out the side. He's got some nasty stuff and has touched 100 mph on a few occasions. Glad we've got him.
I never expected him to come out of college and quickly make his way through the farm system like Andrew Miller did. Obviously Miller was in Florida's system so it wasn't going to be nearly as tough to crack the big league roster, but Miller being a 6'6" lefty had nasty stuff in college and was easy to see he would eventually be a good pitcher in the bigs. Glad to see Bard is coming around. Maybe being a middle or late reliever is his calling and he can work his way into a very good Red Sox bullpen in the next 2 or 3 years.
BTW that 42/4 K/BB ratio simplifies down to a 21/2 ratio. ;)
Just to correct you JB Miller came up with the Tigers and was traded to Florida this off season. The Marlins pitching may not be strong on the MLB level but there are several all start type pitchers in AA and AAA for the Marlins.
Varitek also made history tonight. The Captain became the first catcher in the history of Major League Baseball to catch four no-hitters from four different pitchers.
What a statistic.
Albert just crushed a HR in SD into the 3rd deck of the old Metal Works building in left field. Wow that was smashed.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 19, 2008, 10:25:57 pm
Just to correct you JB Miller came up with the Tigers and was traded to Florida this off season. The Marlins pitching may not be strong on the MLB level but there are several all start type pitchers in AA and AAA for the Marlins.
I forgot about that. And I know the Marlins farm system is very good. They are probably the D-Rays of the NL. They still have all kinds of talent stock piled in AAA and AA ball. The D-Rays have done it for years and now the young talent is shining through in perhaps baseballs best division. The Marlins are playing great right now as well, and they've locked up Hanley who could be a future MVP, potential 40/40 guy, and multiple All-Star.
I'm not so sure if the Tigers couldn't use Miller right now. Willis hasn't exactly been lighting it up for them. Really no one on their pitching staff has. Miller is going to be stud once he gets several hundred innings under his belt. Making the adjustment from pitching on the AA and AAA level to the Show may be the toughest transition in sports. It ranks right up there with NFL QB.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 19, 2008, 08:51:05 pm
Hey Josh I'm in, but we went a month with a World Series bet, just a regular season bet lets just make it a week. (It wont be as bad having a Sox one if I lose this time)
Yeah, that's fine. A week will do.
Miller has looked like an all star at times this year but he has had some rough outings as well. My cousin and him have got to be pretty good friends and I have met him a couple of times. He is a really nice dude.
Quote from: Thee Atlanta Braves Fan™ on May 19, 2008, 10:20:49 pm
Maybe being a middle or late reliever is his calling and he can work his way into a very good Red Sox bullpen in the next 2 or 3 years.
A lot of Sox people are hopeful he can become a Joba Chamberlain type pitcher in the future. If so, that would be great.
Quote from: Thee Atlanta Braves Fan™ on May 19, 2008, 10:20:49 pm
BTW that 42/4 K/BB ratio simplifies down to a 21/2 ratio. ;)
Never claimed to be a math major.
Quote from: InfamousHound on May 19, 2008, 10:30:03 pm
Varitek also made history tonight. The Captain became the first catcher in the history of Major League Baseball to catch four no-hitters from four different pitchers.
What a statistic.
That speaks volumes about his pitch calling.
I realize that our options are limited, but it seems like the loser displaying the winner's favorite team's logo as their avatar has been run into the ground.
Quote from: InfamousHound on May 19, 2008, 10:39:48 pm
I realize that our options are limited, but it seems like the loser displaying the winner's favorite team's logo as their avatar has been run into the ground.
Yeah. Hmm. Got anything else in mind?
I dunno I would really enjoy Josh having an STL logo.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 19, 2008, 10:42:22 pm
I dunno I would really enjoy Josh having an STL logo.
That would mean St. Louis would have to actually win 2 games in Boston, which ain't happening.
That'd be a fun story to do. Ask him which of the four were in his opinion the most impressive, his personal favorite and so on. I know pitchers and fielders have a ton to do with no-hitters, but I think sometimes we forget how vital of a role the catcher plays in a no-hitter or perfect game. He is calling every pitch, keeping the pitcher focused in the later innings, and other small things that don't stand out during the course of a no-no like a great diving catch or a knee buckling curve that sends the batter back to the dugout embarrassed for whiffing.
Also, considering the last two no-hitters Varitek has caught have been for two very young and somewhat inexperienced pitchers, I imagine it has been more work on his part, but if it were me it would also be a little more special as well.
Is Nomo still around? I know he didn't/hasn't had a horrible career but after he won ROY way back when and he's also thrown 2 no-hitters he has seemed to dissapear the last two or three years.
In the battle between the Yankees and Red Sox, you would have to give the edge to the Sox based on the pretty good young pitchers they have.
The Yankees have them as well in Kennedy, Hughes, and Joba. It just so happens the Yankee's pitchers aren't developing quite as nicely as the Red Sox prospects have. But, Bucholz hasn't been anything great yet, but not terrible. And right now he's on the DL.
The Yankees aren't really that far behind, and if Hank Steinbrenner will do the opposite of what George did, and not go out and overpay for superstar free agents past the prime of their career, New York can get back to it's former glory days. They have a great young 2B in Cano, and Melky Cabrera is a switch hitting CF who is still sort of flying under the radar but could develop into a former switch hitting CF that roamed the outfield in the Bronx in the mid and late 90's when the Yankees won 4 World Series in 5 years.
With that said, here's to hoping Hank continues the recent Yankee trend and goes out and grossly over pays for washed up all-stars. Maybe he can work out a deal and get Barry Zito from the Giants, sign Barry Bonds to a one year deal, and make a deal with Satan to get Clemens back in pinstripes.
I know the Yanks have good pitching, but it hasn't produced anything yet. Red Sox youngsters have thrown the last 2 no hitters.
Yeah, Kennedy and Hughes have a long ways to go, and Joba has to get into the rotation before we can truly think if he is going to be very good or not as a starter for the next 8-10 years.
Chalk up the second home run of the night for Pujols. Hopefully, this is the beginning of a hot streak for #5.
The Nats have a long homestand this week, I'm probably gonna go catch a game or two.
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Quote from: Thee Atlanta Braves Fan™ on May 19, 2008, 10:47:17 pm
Is Nomo still around?
He was released by KC a few weeks ago.
Is he not back with the Dodgers?
Nevermind. I was thinking of Chan Ho Park.
Two good games going on out West right now.
Rays/A's tied 5-5 headed to the 10th.
Reds/Dodgers tied 5-5 in the 8th.
Unbelievable. An error by Paul Janish leads to a run in the bottom of the 9th for the Dodgers to win 6-5. An error with 2 outs in the 3rd led to 2 other runs by LA. We(Cincinnati) gave this game away tonight.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 19, 2008, 11:58:17 pm
Rays/A's tied 5-5 headed to the 10th.
Evan Longoria ended up hitting a 2 run homer in the 13th to give the Rays a 7-6 win.
Also, the Padres put Jake Peavy on the DL today.
Janish was a hero in his first big league start, and now looks like he might have been the goat in this game.
What's the over/under on the number of years it takes me(or anyone else)to not see Evan Longoria's name and read Eva Longoria or think of Eva Longoria instead?
Fell asleep before the end of the game. Glad to see us go ahead and finish it out.
I would love to see Eva Longoria in baseball pants. I would buy the MLB Extra Innings package TODAY if that was the case.
:)
Quote from: SMC on May 20, 2008, 06:17:36 pm
I would love to see Eva Longoria in baseball pants. I would buy the MLB Extra Innings package TODAY if that was the case.
:)
In a word ... MEEEEEEEE-OOOOOOWWWWWWWW!
Top 3rd: Orioles 9, Yankees 0
Hahahaha. Moose lasted a whopping 2/3 of an inning.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 20, 2008, 07:19:20 pm
Top 3rd: Orioles 9, Yankees 0
Hahahaha. Moose lasted a whopping 2/3 of an inning.
Interesting that only 1 run was earned.
Quote from: RHS on May 20, 2008, 08:33:55 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 20, 2008, 07:19:20 pm
Top 3rd: Orioles 9, Yankees 0
Hahahaha. Moose lasted a whopping 2/3 of an inning.
Interesting that only 1 run was earned.
I know Jeter made an error. Then I saw Damon drop a fly ball. Regardless, it was comical. O's win 12-2. New York really is pathetic. Can't wait to hear what Hank Steinbrenner has to say next. He is a jack-rear.
Red Sox defeat the Royals 2-1.
Justin Masterson (another one of our stud prospects the Twins wanted) pitched 6 1/3, giving up 3 hits and 1 run while striking out 5. Got his 1st major league win tonight. He pitched great against the Angels earlier in the season but got the ND.
Papelbon got the 4 out save tonight striking out 3.
Atlanta swept a doubleheader against the Mets today. The Braves are playing pretty well as of late and with the Mets and Phillies not out to great starts either this would be a great time for them to gain some ground on the Marlins and maybe be within 2 or 3 games of 1st by the All-Star break.
Kevin Kouzmanoff just hit a 3 run BOMB to dead center to give the Padres a 3-2 lead over the Cardinals! Take that Joel Pineiro.
The A's are leading the Rays 1-0 in the 7th. Another good game going on.
Quote from: Thee Atlanta Braves Fan™ on May 20, 2008, 10:45:37 pm
Atlanta swept a doubleheader against the Mets today. The Braves are playing pretty well as of late and with the Mets and Phillies not out to great starts either this would be a great time for them to gain some ground on the Marlins and maybe be within 2 or 3 games of 1st by the All-Star break.
Nobody in the NL East can seem to play good baseball consistenly. Every time you look at the standings under the "Last 10 games played" column you see a lot of 5-5 and 4-6 records.
Eventually I think the Marlins will fade, but I'd like to see them make a run. They're a good young team. Chances are it's going to come down to the wire with the Mets, Braves, and Phillies, and as of right now it's hard to separate the 3.
I don't feel the Marlins have staying power this season. I do think the Rays have more staying power, but playing in a tougher division it is going to be hard to finish higher than 3rd.
Usually by the All-Star break the teams that are going to be in the division running until September or later have usually emerged somewhat.
Its hard to root for the marlins yet want their staring pitching to fail lol
Quote from: Thee Atlanta Braves Fan™ on May 20, 2008, 11:02:54 pm
I do think the Rays have more staying power, but playing in a tougher division it is going to be hard to finish higher than 3rd.
I actually think the Rays will be in this thing for the long haul. When you look at their team, they have what it takes to make the playoffs. They've got solid starting pitching, a good bullpen and a reliable veteran closer, and a pretty good offense too.
I don't think they will win the AL East, but they have a good shot at the Wild Card. If they can play decent on the road, they should be fine considering they're nearly unbeatable at home. I, for one, would like to see them get the Wild Card.
I just wish the Rays could get more support at home. They are still struggling to get 20,000 a game. The new stadium should help them tremendously. Tropicana Field, or whatever it is called now, is a crap hole.
This is a random thought, but if Chris Perez is the real deal, Izzy might as well hang it up.
Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on May 21, 2008, 06:20:04 am
This is a random thought, but if Chris Perez is the real deal, Izzy might as well hang it up.
I hate to see him go out like this but when its your time its your time. He lived for years getting the bases loaded etc before getting the hitters out. Now he just loads the bases and doesn't get them out at all.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 21, 2008, 08:51:52 am
Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on May 21, 2008, 06:20:04 am
This is a random thought, but if Chris Perez is the real deal, Izzy might as well hang it up.
I hate to see him go out like this but when its your time its your time. He lived for years getting the bases loaded etc before getting the hitters out. Now he just loads the bases and doesn't get them out at all.
With the number of pitches he has, he should try to move to a starting position. He's through as a closer it seems. But, I could see him remaking himself if he has the desire at all.
This post may not be for the faint of heart ... .
http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080521&content_id=2745856&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Chris Young should have gotten his glove up in time.
/sarcasm
Quote from: RHS on May 21, 2008, 11:03:49 pm
Chris Young should have gotten his glove up in time.
/sarcasm
Time to sue the people who grew that maple tree. :)
Time to blame him because he didn't react in time, or his parents for letting him be a pitcher.
Three afternoon games today.
J.D. Drew just hit a grand slam to give the Red Sox a 4-1 lead over KC. Going for the 4 game sweep.
Boston wins their 7th straight 11-8 over KC. Drew and Lowell both hit grand slams.
Cincinnati is leading 2-0 going into the 5th against San Diego after Griffey hit a 2-run bomb in the 1st, his 5th of the year and number 598 of his career. The Reds are looking to end their 3 game losing streak.
I'll be in Cincinnati on the 27th for the game against the Pirates. I'd love to say that I saw Griffey hit his 600th.
Wow, I'm jealous. I want to see the Reds play so bad this year, but Cincinnati is a little too far from Little Rock, and they don't play in St. Louis until August and I will be in school then. I would just love to see him hit a bomb some day in person.
I was at the first three games of the four game set when he hit 500. Too bad he hit that on the day I wasn't there.
For all you Red Sox fans as well as SAU Mulerider baseball fans. If you haven't seen or heard about this article maybe this will be of interest to you. It concerns a good friend of mine who went to school at SAU and played baseball there. He would later become the GM for the KC Royals before leaving there and joining the Red Sox organization. My good friend Allard Baird is still showing some very good baseball acumen despite having an up and down career. Thought some of you might be interested. So-
http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Sox+Beat%3a+NH+exec+led+Boston%27s+pursuit+of+Colon&articleId=cf5e36db-0ae0-4461-86b7-59a21cea43f4
If I don't see Griffey jack one out of the park, I'm going to be dissapointed. Assuming that he'll eventually hit another pair of home runs and one on the 27th, I will have seen the three living members of the 600 home run club go yard.
I saw Bonds hit one that almost went through the fountains in KC a few years back.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 23, 2008, 12:51:38 am
I saw Bonds hit one that almost went through the fountains in KC a few years back.
I've been to two Giants games, and both times Bonds elected not to play. You have no idea how hacked I was.
Quote from: RHS on May 23, 2008, 01:10:22 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 23, 2008, 12:51:38 am
I saw Bonds hit one that almost went through the fountains in KC a few years back.
I've been to two Giants games, and both times Bonds elected not to play. You have no idea how hacked I was.
We went to the Saturday night and Sunday afternoon games in KC that summer. He played in RF Saturday night and we figured that was all we were going to see of him becasue he never plays day games but he elected to DH on Sunday and that was when he hit the laser shot. It was a great game as KC scored three in the bottom of the ninth to win off a double from Sweeny.
In 2004, I went to see the Giants play in St. Louis. Bonds went upper tank. It was an absolute bomb.
Last summer I went to the Rangers play in KC. Sosa hit a HR that seemed to hang in the air for an eternity, and it just barely cleared the fence.
I saw the Giants in Frisco 2 years ago and he sat out. Saw them against last summer in Wrigley and he sat out again, and the next day. The 3rd day hit bombed 2 out of there.
The biggest HR I've seen in person was still the roided up Jose Canseco himself yoking one DEEP into the back of the LCF bullpen at the Ballpark in Arlington back in like 1995. That thing got out of the park in about 2 seconds too it seemed like. It was rope.
I have been to 4 Reds games, and Griffey was hurt for the first 3 (these were in different seasons). The 4th one I went to was in 06 and he hit a walk-off double in the bottom of the 9th beat the Brewers after being down 5-0 at one point. I also got a chance to see Alfonso Soriano drop 3 bombs in his first 3 at bats against Atlanta last season, that was awesome.
In San Diego, the Reds and Padres are tied at 0 going into the bottom of the 4th. This wouldn't be very significant but right now Edinson Volquez has 7 strikeouts through 3 IP.
In LA, Ludwick went yard for the 13th time this season to put St. Louis ahead 2-0. He's argubaly the hottest hitter in the game at the moment.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 23, 2008, 12:51:38 am
I saw Bonds hit one that almost went through the fountains in KC a few years back.
Saw him hit one at Coors field four years ago. Ball got out of the park in a great hurry.
Quote from: InfamousHound on May 23, 2008, 11:03:57 pm
In LA, Ludwick went yard for the 13th time this season to put St. Louis ahead 2-0. He's argubaly the hottest hitter in the game at the moment.
ALL STAR
And in LA with one out and a 3-2 count in the bottom of the ninth we have gone into a rain delay.
Interesting side note in the 50 years that the Dodgers have been in LA they have had 15 rain outs in all. And the last one was in 2000.
Adam Dunn hit a solo shot in the top of the 9th to beat the Padres 3-2. Edinson Volquez struck out 12 in 6 IP giving up 1 ER in a no-decision. That kid can shove.
I went to the Nationals/Brewers game last night, which was won by the home team 5-1.
Any time a game features Dmitri Young, Tony Gwynn Jr, Aaron Boone, Jason Kendall, and Elijah Dukes (who is hitting a solid .063 this year), you know it's thrilling baseball.
In all seriousness though, Ryan Zimmerman is one heck of a ballplayer. And Wily Mo Pena hit a home run.
Quote from: InfamousHound on May 23, 2008, 11:03:57 pm
In LA, Ludwick went yard for the 13th time this season to put St. Louis ahead 2-0. He's argubaly the hottest hitter in the game at the moment.
Umm, Dan Uggla?
Cardinals win 4-0 and now have a share of first place.
How about Chris Perez? Struck out the side in the ninth to end the game. I think we have our closer of the future.
Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on May 25, 2008, 04:12:53 am
How about Chris Perez? Struck out the side in the ninth to end the game. I think we have our closer of the future.
I would give him a little more time before we dub him our new closer. Franklin has done a good job and he will give Perez more time to get some exp under his belt. But that being said he looked great tonight.
Quote from: superfan on May 24, 2008, 12:43:22 pm
Quote from: InfamousHound on May 23, 2008, 11:03:57 pm
In LA, Ludwick went yard for the 13th time this season to put St. Louis ahead 2-0. He's argubaly the hottest hitter in the game at the moment.
Umm, Dan Uggla?
Umm, Chipper Jones version 0.400?
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on May 25, 2008, 04:14:44 am
Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on May 25, 2008, 04:12:53 am
How about Chris Perez? Struck out the side in the ninth to end the game. I think we have our closer of the future.
I would give him a little more time before we dub him our new closer. Franklin has done a good job and he will give Perez more time to get some exp under his belt. But that being said he looked great tonight.
I do like that Franklin is doing a good job so Perez can ease himself in to the role instead of being thrown to the wolves right off the bat.
The Tampa Bay Devil Rays are in first place in the AL East and have the best record in baseball.
To the apocalypse shelter!
Not just yet ... now if we see something like a Rays-Cubs World Series, then yes, by all means, it's being brought to you by Armageddon.
Quote from: superfan on May 24, 2008, 12:43:22 pm
Quote from: InfamousHound on May 23, 2008, 11:03:57 pm
In LA, Ludwick went yard for the 13th time this season to put St. Louis ahead 2-0. He's argubaly the hottest hitter in the game at the moment.
Umm, Dan Uggla?
That's why I said "argubaly." Looking across the league, there's four or five players that you could make a strong case for.
Quote from: InfamousHound on May 25, 2008, 11:48:38 pm
Quote from: superfan on May 24, 2008, 12:43:22 pm
Quote from: InfamousHound on May 23, 2008, 11:03:57 pm
In LA, Ludwick went yard for the 13th time this season to put St. Louis ahead 2-0. He's argubaly the hottest hitter in the game at the moment.
Umm, Dan Uggla?
That's why I said "argubaly." Looking across the league, there's four or five players that you could make a strong case for.
that you could attempt to make cases for. you just can't go against chipper's +.400 batting average
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on May 25, 2008, 11:39:55 pm
The Tampa Bay Devil Rays are in first place in the AL East and have the best record in baseball.
To the apocalypse shelter!
Fixed that.
Amazing there was no talk on the 18 inning game tonight between the Padres and Reds.
Quote from: suspended on May 26, 2008, 12:22:23 am
Quote from: InfamousHound on May 25, 2008, 11:48:38 pm
Quote from: superfan on May 24, 2008, 12:43:22 pm
Quote from: InfamousHound on May 23, 2008, 11:03:57 pm
In LA, Ludwick went yard for the 13th time this season to put St. Louis ahead 2-0. He's argubaly the hottest hitter in the game at the moment.
Umm, Dan Uggla?
That's why I said "argubaly." Looking across the league, there's four or five players that you could make a strong case for.
that you could attempt to make cases for. you just can't go against chipper's +.400 batting average
Considering Ludwick has him edged in HR's and RBI's, I'd say you could.
I would give it to Berkman before Uggla. Their tied in HR's, but Berkman has 9 more RBI and his avg is about 70 points higher. I would probably have Uggla 2nd and then Josh Hamilton from Texas 3rd tied with Chipper
It'd be nice if the Sox would snap out of it and win a freaking game on the road for a change. Getting swept at Oakland and falling out of 1st place this weekend is not exactly what I had in mind. Hopefully we can get on a roll starting tomorrow night at Seattle, because they are atrocious.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 26, 2008, 02:36:38 amHopefully we can get on a roll starting tomorrow night at Seattle, because they are atrocious.
I thought we had the game wrapped up against the yankees today, only to come home after a longer than expected night at work, and find out we blew a 3 run lead in the last 2 innings or so.
Quote from: RHS on May 26, 2008, 02:43:05 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 26, 2008, 02:36:38 amHopefully we can get on a roll starting tomorrow night at Seattle, because they are atrocious.
I thought we had the game wrapped up against the yankees today, only to come home after a longer than expected night at work, and find out we blew a 3 run lead in the last 2 innings or so.
It was painful to watch.
Cards had a good road trip and have a big series with Houston starting tomorrow.
The Marlins are currently leading the Mets 6-3 in the 5th at Shea.
I know he had a meeting with the Mets brass today and got a vote of confidence, but it won't be much longer until Randolph gets the axe.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 26, 2008, 07:53:50 pm
The Marlins are currently leading the Mets 6-3 in the 5th at Shea.
I know he had a meeting with the Mets brass today and got a vote of confidence, but it won't be much longer until Randolph gets the axe.
I told you guys the Marlins were going to be for real this year. :)
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 26, 2008, 07:53:50 pmI know he had a meeting with the Mets brass today and got a vote of confidence, but it won't be much longer until Randolph gets the axe.
Who gets canned first. Randolph of the Mariners skipper?
Quote from: RHS on May 26, 2008, 10:18:18 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 26, 2008, 07:53:50 pmI know he had a meeting with the Mets brass today and got a vote of confidence, but it won't be much longer until Randolph gets the axe.
Who gets canned first. Randolph of the Mariners skipper?
I'd say Randolph, but McClaren's not far behind. Both teams had high expectations coming into the season and have been lousy. And with Randolph managing in New York, everything is amplified.
Two great pitcher's duels on the West Coast tonight.
Tigers 0, Angels 0 - 9th
Red Sox 1, Mariners 1 - 8th
Bartolo Colon looked great tonight for Boston, which is a very encouraging sign. 7 really good innings while striking out 4.
Don't know how many saw this but some really sad MLB news:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3412801
I remember him well, especially when he pitched for Boston. He always seemed like a real good guy. Makes me sad to hear about this.
Sad to hear. And on a night when we have a nice electrical storm here in the Pope/Yell Co. area.
On another note, I liken the 2008 Mets to Brad Ldige after he gave up that bomb to Pujols. The collapse at the end of the 2007 season is the Pujols bomb, and the 2008 Met season is like Lidge afterwards. They got the stink on em, and they won't wash it off this year.
Quote from: RHS on May 27, 2008, 02:36:57 am
On another note, I liken the 2008 Mets to Brad Ldige after he gave up that bomb to Pujols. The collapse at the end of the 2007 season is the Pujols bomb, and the 2008 Met season is like Lidge afterwards. They got the stink on em, and they won't wash it off this year.
(http://www.whiterose.org/pete/blog/images/pujols02.jpg)
I don't think I have ever heard a sold out stadium get quiet as fast as the Houston fans did on that night.
It is one of my favourite sporting moments I watched live in my life.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on May 27, 2008, 10:52:29 am
It is one of my favourite sporting moments I watched live in my life.
guarenteed.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/ps/y2005/video.jsp?view=hou_stl
Scroll down to game 5 and you can watch it again.
InfamousHound, you picked a good night to go see the Reds. Dunn absolutely smashed a hit to right to take the lead, and you witnessed Jay Bruce's first MLB game where he went 3-3 with 2 walks and 2 RBI on 2 singles and a double. Reds are up 9-3 in the bottom of the 8th.
Manny just hit HR #499. Red Sox and Mariners tied 3-3 headed to the 7th.
Also, down 9-8 in the 11th inning, Baltimore scores 2 to come back and beat the Yankees 10-9. Hahahaha.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on May 27, 2008, 07:05:47 am
Quote from: RHS on May 27, 2008, 02:36:57 am
On another note, I liken the 2008 Mets to Brad Ldige after he gave up that bomb to Pujols. The collapse at the end of the 2007 season is the Pujols bomb, and the 2008 Met season is like Lidge afterwards. They got the stink on em, and they won't wash it off this year.
(http://www.whiterose.org/pete/blog/images/pujols02.jpg)
Ah, the memories.
You could literally feel the air being sucked out of the stadium. It was following right behind the ball.
That was definitely one of the more deflating moments in sports. Even so, Houston didn't let that affect them and came back and won the series in Game 6 in St. Louis, which took some serious balls. They could've easily gone out with a whimper, but Roy Oswalt bowed up and shut down the Cardinals to close out Busch Stadium in style. That was the most impressive thing in that series, IMO.
Cards get a much needed win tonight against Houston.
The Twins were down 8-3 going into the 9th inning against the Royals tonight. They score 5 runs in the top of the 9th forcing it into extra innings. In the top of the 10th Morneau hits a solo home run to put the Twins up 9-8 and win the game.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 28, 2008, 08:13:06 pm
That was definitely one of the more deflating moments in sports. Even so, Houston didn't let that affect them and came back and won the series in Game 6 in St. Louis, which took some serious balls. They could've easily gone out with a whimper, but Roy Oswalt bowed up and shut down the Cardinals to close out Busch Stadium in style. That was the most impressive thing in that series, IMO.
Nobody remembers that because the A$$tros got swept in the World Series so it a wasn't very significant NLCS series victory. IMO ;)
From an espn.com article--
The teams with the two highest payrolls -- the Yankees and Tigers -- emerged from Memorial Day weekend in last place. So naturally, the teams with the two lowest payrolls -- the Marlins and Rays -- emerged from Memorial Day weekend in first place.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on May 29, 2008, 05:00:58 pm
From an espn.com article--
The teams with the two highest payrolls -- the Yankees and Tigers -- emerged from Memorial Day weekend in last place. So naturally, the teams with the two lowest payrolls -- the Marlins and Rays -- emerged from Memorial Day weekend in first place.
There is A TON of parity in baseball these days. You really can't analyze the teams and say, "Hey, these guys are without a doubt the best team in baseball". No one team sticks out. I like it though, because overall it makes the game more exciting with more and more teams getting better and contending.
Looks like the Marlins are getting much more production out of their 22 million dollar payroll than the yankees are getting out of their 26 million dollar man in A-Rod.
That just makes me smile real big.
FEAR THE FISH
As I type Albert goes yard in STL to put the Cards up 3-0 on the Astros in the 6th.
And the Cardinals win 3-2 and take the series from the Astros.
The only bad thing is that Brandon Backe wasn't there to bash around during the series.
You fantasy guys better go grab the new SP for the Braves that's doing well.
Cardinals take game one against the Pirates 5-4
Cubs come back today from 9-1 down to win, and have the best record in baseball. :D
Quote from: SMC on May 30, 2008, 11:03:30 pm
Cubs come back today from 9-1 down to win, and have the best record in baseball. :D
Saw that. When was the last time Colorado gave up less than 10 runs in a game? Their pitching has been getting SHELLED.
The Red Sox beat the Orioles 5-2 in 13 innings tonight in Baltimore thanks to 2 throwing errors that led to our 3 runs. Baltimore made 4 errors in the game alone. It was sloppy. I'll take it though.
Quote from: SMC on May 30, 2008, 11:03:30 pm
Cubs come back today from 9-1 down to win, and have the best record in baseball. :D
And its only got them a one game lead. I do think that the Central is going to get two teams in the playoffs this season. Again.
Ahhhh, but look at the calendar and what month is about to take place ....
Cubs win again. Keep hoping though, guys.
Quote from: SMC on May 31, 2008, 03:21:13 pm
Cubs win again. Keep hoping though, guys.
Is it really hoping or just waiting for the expected? I mean it does happen almost every year.
Didn't happen last year. Like I said, this team with this manager is 1 for 1 winning the division. We already spotted you guys like a 3 or 4 game lead was it? And got that back already, so it's not like we were just hot in April and are fading. The last 100 years has nothing to do with this group of players.
Quote from: SMC on May 31, 2008, 04:10:52 pm
Didn't happen last year. Like I said, this team with this manager is 1 for 1 winning the division. We already spotted you guys like a 3 or 4 game lead was it? And got that back already, so it's not like we were just hot in April and are fading. The last 100 years has nothing to do with this group of players.
But hey even if you don't fade the Central is going to get the wild card this year I am pretty sure. With the season we had last year I will be more than happy with getting the WC. Esp with our starting rotation being a bunch of no names and rookies.
I'm convinced Jacoby Ellsbury is the fastest player in baseball. Last night he stole 3 bases relatively easy, and tonight he is already 3/3 in steal attempts and we're only in the 5th inning! It's amazing. Everyone knows he's going to go, but yet they still can't throw him out.
Sox and O's tied 2-2 in the 5th.
#500 for Manny!
Congratulations to one of the greatest hitters of all time. I got chills just watching that.
Yeah. Griffey hit his 599 today vs the Braves.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on May 31, 2008, 08:33:50 pm
Yeah. Griffey hit his 599 today vs the Braves.
He should be closing in on 700, if not going for more.
Had Junior stayed healthy, I believe he would be already over 700, probably around Ruth's 714 or so right about now.
Even so, he should be able to close in on at least 4th all time, which would mean passing Willie Mays at 660. Sosa is 5th all time at 609 which Griffey should blow by sometime later this summer you would think, barring another injury.
He won't get 600 today, he is done for the day. They put Freel in for him in the 8th. He should get it here in the next couple of days. Oh yeah, Jay Bruce is on fire right now. Going into today he was 11-19 for his career. He hit a walkoff yesterday to beat the Braves, scored the winning run on Friday to beat the Braves, and hit another bomb today.
My calendar says June but the Cubs won today anyway. Swept the Rockies to go 7-0 on the homestand.
Cardinals also get a win today 7-4 over the Pirates.
Jay Bruce is going to be a stud. I am a little surprised the Reds waited this long to call him up. I doubt Junior will be in Cincy after he hits 600 or after this season.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 31, 2008, 08:32:38 pm
#500 for Manny!
Congratulations to one of the greatest hitters of all time. I got chills just watching that.
Barring injuries, and a monster decline due to getting older, Manny could very well close in on 600 homers or more before his career is over. He and Jimmie Foxx are the only 2 right handed hitters in baseball history to have a lifetime batting average over .312 and 500 HR's. That is pretty good company.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 31, 2008, 07:39:10 pm
I'm convinced Jacoby Ellsbury is the fastest player in baseball. Last night he stole 3 bases relatively easy, and tonight he is already 3/3 in steal attempts and we're only in the 5th inning! It's amazing. Everyone knows he's going to go, but yet they still can't throw him out.
Sox and O's tied 2-2 in the 5th.
Ellsbury and Reyes would be an interesting race.
Ichiro when he first came into the league, got from the batter's box to first base faster than anyone I have ever seen. He does benefit by hitting left handed but he still can fly down the first base line.
Quote from: AB™ on June 01, 2008, 04:27:54 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on May 31, 2008, 07:39:10 pm
I'm convinced Jacoby Ellsbury is the fastest player in baseball. Last night he stole 3 bases relatively easy, and tonight he is already 3/3 in steal attempts and we're only in the 5th inning! It's amazing. Everyone knows he's going to go, but yet they still can't throw him out.
Ellsbury and Reyes would be an interesting race.
Ichiro when he first came into the league, got from the batter's box to first base faster than anyone I have ever seen. He does benefit by hitting left handed but he still can fly down the first base line.
How about a race featuring Ellsbury, Reyes, Ichiro, Gomez, Rollins, Victorino, Pierre, Crawford, Sizemore, and Crisp? :D
Ranking them 1-10 is about impossible. All have blazing speed.
Quote from: SMC on May 31, 2008, 03:21:13 pm
Cubs win again. Keep hoping though, guys.
We'd have a long winning streak as well if we got to play the Rockies & Pirates every day.
Aren't the Cards currently in a series with the Pirates? ;D
I also believe the Cubs and Cardinals will both play the Pirates the same number of times.
Quote from: AB™ on June 01, 2008, 11:20:25 pm
Aren't the Cards currently in a series with the Pirates? ;D
I also believe the Cubs and Cardinals will both play the Pirates the same number of times.
Shut up. ;)
That is true, but it seems like the Cubs have played the Pirates every other series so far this season.
Oh did anyone else see Rick Ankiel's diving catch today? Edmonds who?
The Chubbies will come back down to earth. They play 23 of their next 32 away from Wrigley. Did I mention they are 10-13 on the road this year? ;)
Great...
In a tie game with the Yankees in the 7th A-rod is thrown out at home. He never touches the plate, and even if he had(but he didn't) he was tagged before he got to the plate. He was called safe though to put the Yankees up 5-4. I guess I shouldn't expect anything different though.
Braves blow another lead in the 9th, but score w/o a hit to get it to the 10th.
In the last two innings the Cards have given the game away against the Pirates. We were up 4-0 and now we are down 5-4. Blargh.
I saw Wainwright was pitching a gem and then got rocked with a grand slam.
Quote from: SMC on June 02, 2008, 09:22:03 pm
I saw Wainwright was pitching a gem and then got rocked with a grand slam.
Other than the Slam every other hit has been a bleeder. Talk about frustrating. How are the cubbies doing tonight?
We just started as we are out on the West Coast. Crap, just saw Zambrano gave up 3 runs in the first to the flippin Padres.
Terrible news - David Ortiz out "indefinitely" with a partially torn tendon in his left wrist. He is expected to be out for at least a month, maybe more. They originally said season ending surgery was possible, but have rescinded that and stated it's not likely.
Sigh.
Jim Edmonds lighting up his former team the Padres with a couple of big RBI doubles. He's actually hit pretty well the last week or so.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 02, 2008, 10:30:19 pm
Terrible news - David Ortiz out "indefinitely" with a partially torn tendon in his left wrist. He is expected to be out for at least a month, maybe more. They originally said season ending surgery was possible, but have rescinded that and stated it's not likely.
Sigh.
Boston was able to hold out and win the division last year even after Manny was out for a while. Even when he was healthy, and Ortiz playing hurt all year last year, neither put up numbers anywhere near what Boston fans are used to getting from them. Hopefully Ortiz's injury won't be critical to the team and he can recover pretty quickly. Not having him in to anchor the middle of the lineup with Manny is a pretty big hit to the team, but Boston has other good hitters that can compensate if it is only something that keeps him out a month.
I'm headed down to Nationals Park in a few minutes to cheer on my Redbirds. Kyle Lohse v. Odalis Perez. Go Cardinals.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on June 03, 2008, 04:57:59 pm
I'm headed down to Nationals Park in a few minutes to cheer on my Redbirds. Kyle Lohse v. Odalis Perez. Go Cardinals.
I would like fotos. :)
Quote from: Ramblin' Man? on June 03, 2008, 04:57:59 pm
I'm headed down to Nationals Park in a few minutes to cheer on my Redbirds. Kyle Lohse v. Odalis Perez. Go Cardinals.
Scratch that. I was running late in the office (God bless receptions), had ate way too much food (again, God bless receptions), and figured there would probably be a rain delay.
So instead, I'm going on Thursday night...Ryan Zimmerman Bobblehead night!
In MLB news today, the Braves take a huge hit with the Braves announcing that John Smoltz (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3425461) will have season-ending surgery.
Hopefully, this isn't the last we've seen of one of the best October pitchers in the history of baseball.
Smoltz had said earlier in the year that if the injury kept him out really long term, that he might hang them up.
Said he is going to have surgery so that he hopes he can play next season. Guess he isn't done yet.
I hate seeing Smoltz out for the season. He is, along with Maddux, my favorite player in the league. As much as I would hate to see him go out like this, it may be best if he does hang it up. He is a sure fire Hall of Famer. Over 200 wins and 150 saves. Only player to ever do that. I think it's safe to say if he had never became a closer he would finish his career with 300 wins.
I know they said this a while ago, but I was watching the Rays/Red Sox game, and almost lost it when they said what the B.J. stands for in B.J. Upton's name. Bossman Jr. I mean really? Just when I thought I had heard it all.
Red Sox beat the Rays again 5-1 tonight to take a 1/2 game lead in the AL East. J.D. Drew has been KILLING the ball as of late, not to mention his great defense.
The Sox are an MLB best 23-5 at home and have won 12 straight at Fenway.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 04, 2008, 10:37:48 pm
J.D. Drew has been KILLING the ball as of late, not to mention his great defense.
It's the FSU mojo. :)
Edinson Volquez had another solid outing, striking out 8 and only giving up 2 hits in 7 shutout innings. He improved his record to 8-2 and his NL best ERA to 1.32 as the Reds beat the Phillies 2-0 tonight.
Brett Myers pitched a pretty good game, as he had retired the first 15 or so batters he faced.
New word on cubs game?
DC United and the Cardinals have conflicting games tomorrow...which should I go to? Hmm.
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Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 04, 2008, 10:37:48 pm
J.D. Drew has been KILLING the ball as of late, not to mention his great defense.
It's the FSU mojo. :)
There's a big draft day coming up for a kid from FSU. They need to give some of the mojo back to the football team.
How often do the Cardinals play in DC this year? This is probably the only time, so go to the Cards game. United will have plenty more games this summer.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on June 04, 2008, 11:20:17 pm
DC United and the Cardinals have conflicting games tomorrow...which should I go to? Hmm.
Dude you cant pass up a baseball double header!
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Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on June 04, 2008, 11:20:17 pm
DC United and the Cardinals have conflicting games tomorrow...which should I go to? Hmm.
Dude you cant pass up a baseball double header!
The man has spoken ramblin! Baseball game for you!
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on June 04, 2008, 11:20:17 pm
DC United and the Cardinals have conflicting games tomorrow...which should I go to? Hmm.
Crappy MLS team or your favorite MLB team............. Come on T-Dub, it's not that hard of a decision! :)
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Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 04, 2008, 10:37:48 pm
J.D. Drew has been KILLING the ball as of late, not to mention his great defense.
It's the FSU mojo. :)
There's a big draft day coming up for a kid from FSU. They need to give some of the mojo back to the football team.
We have several that will be drafted high. Buster Posey will go anywhere in between #1 and #3.
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Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 04, 2008, 10:37:48 pm
J.D. Drew has been KILLING the ball as of late, not to mention his great defense.
It's the FSU mojo. :)
There's a big draft day coming up for a kid from FSU. They need to give some of the mojo back to the football team.
We have several that will be drafted high. Buster Posey will go anywhere in between #1 and #3.
Royals *crosses fingers*
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Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on June 04, 2008, 11:20:17 pm
DC United and the Cardinals have conflicting games tomorrow...which should I go to? Hmm.
Crappy MLS team or your favorite MLB team............. Come on T-Dub, it's not that hard of a decision! :)
I would rather watch the crappy MLS game.
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Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on June 04, 2008, 11:20:17 pm
DC United and the Cardinals have conflicting games tomorrow...which should I go to? Hmm.
Crappy MLS team or your favorite MLB team............. Come on T-Dub, it's not that hard of a decision! :)
I would rather watch the crappy MLS game.
Boooooo
Quote from: RHS on June 05, 2008, 12:19:43 am
Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on June 04, 2008, 11:56:17 pm
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on June 04, 2008, 11:20:17 pm
DC United and the Cardinals have conflicting games tomorrow...which should I go to? Hmm.
Crappy MLS team or your favorite MLB team............. Come on T-Dub, it's not that hard of a decision! :)
I would rather watch the crappy MLS game.
Well I'd rather watch a crappy MLS game than watch the 49ers play so I guess we're on the same page! ;)
Also the Cubs finally lose and we get rained out so we cant make up the ground.
Double header starts at noon tomorrow!
Well j-lo, we did gain a half game by not playing, but we'll gain at least another half game tomorrow after we sweep the double header.
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Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on June 04, 2008, 11:20:17 pm
DC United and the Cardinals have conflicting games tomorrow...which should I go to? Hmm.
Crappy MLS team or your favorite MLB team............. Come on T-Dub, it's not that hard of a decision! :)
I would rather watch the crappy MLS game.
Well I'd rather watch a crappy MLS game than watch the 49ers play so I guess we're on the same page! ;)
I'm getting the best of both worlds. The United game is rescheduled for the same time and will be over by 9:15ish, so I can hop on the metro down to Nationals Park and catch the end of the Cards game.
EDIT - Ah, I misunderstood. United will ANNOUNCE a makeup time today...the make up game is not today, just announced today.
So Cards v. Nats it is!
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Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on June 04, 2008, 11:56:17 pm
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on June 04, 2008, 11:20:17 pm
DC United and the Cardinals have conflicting games tomorrow...which should I go to? Hmm.
Crappy MLS team or your favorite MLB team............. Come on T-Dub, it's not that hard of a decision! :)
I would rather watch the crappy MLS game.
Well I'd rather watch a crappy MLS game than watch the 49ers play so I guess we're on the same page! ;)
I'm getting the best of both worlds. The United game is rescheduled for the same time and will be over by 9:15ish, so I can hop on the metro down to Nationals Park and catch the end of the Cards game.
EDIT - Ah, I misunderstood. United will ANNOUNCE a makeup time today...the make up game is not today, just announced today.
So Cards v. Nats it is!
There is one going on right now. GO TO THE PARK!!!!!
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Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 04, 2008, 10:37:48 pm
J.D. Drew has been KILLING the ball as of late, not to mention his great defense.
It's the FSU mojo. :)
There's a big draft day coming up for a kid from FSU. They need to give some of the mojo back to the football team.
We have several that will be drafted high. Buster Posey will go anywhere in between #1 and #3.
Royals *crosses fingers*
Well, I was slightly off. He 'fell' to 5th - drafted by the Giants. I think he's getting $12 million, so it's not like he's gonna be hurting.
Correction - I think his agent was asking for $12 million. I don't know what the actual figure will be.
6 of the first 12 from the ACC or SEC. I think Logan Forsythe will be the first Hog taken. He's projected as a top 80 player. I just hope some of our pitching signees make it to campus.
Not really thrilled about the Cardinals pick.....
Also watching this on ESPN makes you realize how big of a tool Bud Selig is. If your going to be a commish you should at least have to know how to pronounce Los Angeles. And stop winking after every pick!
I'm just following it on the little tracker from the MLB site. They update picks about 5 seconds after they are announced.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on June 05, 2008, 02:37:49 pm
Also watching this on ESPN makes you realize how big of a tool Bud Selig is. If your going to be a commish you should at least have to know how to pronounce Los Angeles. And stop winking after every pick!
He's so monotone, emotionless. I wish they'd have a guy from each team announce the picks...I'm getting tired of hearing in the 1st round, of the 2008 first year player draft, every single pick.
But dang, 1st baseman are having a big year in the 1st round.
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Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on June 05, 2008, 02:37:49 pm
Also watching this on ESPN makes you realize how big of a tool Bud Selig is. If your going to be a commish you should at least have to know how to pronounce Los Angeles. And stop winking after every pick!
He's so monotone, emotionless. I wish they'd have a guy from each team announce the picks...I'm getting tired of hearing in the 1st round, of the 2008 first year player draft, every single pick.
But dang, 1st baseman are having a big year in the 1st round.
He also looks like he is dead and no one has told him.
And ya first basemen are ruling the days.
6 first basemen taken already.
4 shortstops.
4 catchers.
2 third basemen.
1 second basemen.
9 pitchers (3 LHP, 6 RHP)
Getting close to the area were you can look for Forsythe
I can only hope that Rashun Dixon (Anthony's little brother) doesn't sign with an MLB team. If we could get him to play baseball at State that would be HUGE. He's a monster talent (Catcher, batted over .500 this year and had something like 14 HR's). He's a great football player too, but his future is definitely baseball. Guess we'll see how it plays out.
And Forsythe goes in the last pick in the first round to the Padres!
Congrats to Logan. Most reports I had seen had said mid-late 2nd round.
LOL.
3 star QB Casey Kelly had committed to the Vols to play football. He got drafted 30th overall by the Red Sox. I doubt Phillip sees him at all.
Quote from: RHS on June 05, 2008, 04:38:07 pm
Congrats to Logan. Most reports I had seen had said mid-late 2nd round.
When I talked to him the Sunday before the selection show this is exactly where he thought he was going to go.
Quote from: RHS on June 05, 2008, 04:43:12 pm
3 star QB Casey Kelly had committed to the Vols to play football. He got drafted 30th overall by the Red Sox. I doubt Phillip sees him at all.
If he has half a brain in his head he will go play for Boston. I'm sure he will.
The Red Sox and Rays are already underway (They moved the start time up so everyone can go to or see the Celtics/Lakers tonight). After Pedroia was hit by a pitch, J.D. Drew continues to stay hot with another double, followed by a Manny 3 run BOMB. Drew is 8 for his last 14. On FIRE.
3-0 Sox in the 1st
HOLY CRAP the Red Sox and Rays just got in a HUGE brawl. James Shields nailed Coco Crisp (continuing the crap that went on last night) and he charged the mound. Chaos everywhere. The bright side was that Shields was thrown out of the game and it's only the 2nd inning. Hold on tight, because I'm sure there will be more to come throughout the game. I don't know how Johnny Gomes and Carl Crawford weren't ejected, because they were right in the middle of this thing. Stay tuned.
Here's a question for the regulars on this thread.
Before John McLaren's tirade last night, who actually knew the Mariners' skipper's name?
Who are the Mariners?
Quote from: Quite Frankly on June 05, 2008, 06:29:27 pm
Who are the Mariners?
The team that owns the worst record in baseball.
Tyler Sample, a U of A signee just got picked by Kansas City in the 3rd round.
RD, what about Tyler Wilson? How big are his chances on getting drafted? I saw a thing in the paper today about Youngblood, but nothing on Wilson. I just skimmed over it, so I may have missed him, but I don't remember seeing his name.
Quote from: Ken Griffey Jr. on June 05, 2008, 06:55:08 pm
RD, what about Tyler Wilson? How big are his chances on getting drafted? I saw a thing in the paper today about Youngblood, but nothing on Wilson. I just skimmed over it, so I may have missed him, but I don't remember seeing his name.
He will likely get drafted. Not sure how high, but I'm pretty postive he will get picked. I mean, he was selected as the Gatorade Baseball Player of the year for Arkansas, surely somebody will take a chance.
Quote from: InfamousHound on June 05, 2008, 06:01:46 pm
Before John McLaren's tirade last night, who actually knew the Mariners' skipper's name?
I knew who he was when he took over for Mike Hargrove mid-season last year.
Red Sox are beating down the Rays 7-1 going for the sweep.
Did the Hogs have anymore signees get drafted? Didn't they lose 2 or 3 pitchers last year that decided to not play for the Hogs after being drafted?
So I've been trying to hold down my dinner for most of the Cardinals game thus far because it's LITERALLY on the verge of making me sick...how do you get your butt kicked THAT bad by the NATIONALS?? But not to fear (yeah right...I've been on the verge of breaking my tv over here) my redbirds aren't going to lay down and take it...3 run home run by who...MARK WORRELL to make it 6-8 WSH in the bottom of the 6th. There is hope yet...I'm going to feel sad for them if they lose this.
Good thing I didn't go to the game. Since the game was cancelled yesterday and a "marquis team like the Cardinals" were in town as I heard on the Metro, all the cheap seats sold out early. The best available seats were $33. No way I was gonna pay that much to watch a game without Ryan Zimmerman, Albert Pujols, Rick Ankiel, Yadier Molina, and any Cardinals pitcher not named Mike Parisi.
Elijah F'ng Dukes? Really??
Wooo! Walk-off 2 run homer for Psycho Elijah Dukes to give the Nats a 10-9 win!!!
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on June 05, 2008, 09:23:38 pm
Elijah F'ng Dukes? Really??
Yup...really...it wasn't a dream. It is entirely possible I'll wake up tomorrow with a notice on my door saying I got written up for yelling too loud tonight. Cause I guaranteeeeee you the people in the apt above me and next to me heard the new words I created. That game should have been over in the 9th dang inning...Shoemocker was literally a couple inches shy. Now I'll go take my bitter self to bed...I have to get up at 4:30 to go to work and should have been asleep hours ago.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 05, 2008, 09:23:47 pm
Wooo! Walk-off 2 run homer for Psycho Elijah Dukes to give the Nats a 10-9 win!!!
I'm officially in on the Cards/Red Sox bet after reading this bit of blasphemy. ;)
Quote from: AB™ on June 05, 2008, 07:55:16 pm
Did the Hogs have anymore signees get drafted? Didn't they lose 2 or 3 pitchers last year that decided to not play for the Hogs after being drafted?
I'll have to look, but I bet we had some picked high again. We had 3 players in the top 50 on BaseballAmerica I think. Last year most of our pitching was drafted. I think one signed, and then immediately wanted to goto college instead but was pretty much screwed.
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3 star QB Casey Kelly had committed to the Vols to play football. He got drafted 30th overall by the Red Sox. I doubt Phillip sees him at all.
If he has half a brain in his head he will go play for Boston. I'm sure he will.
He'll get more than enough money thrown his way to make him forget about college for now.
JB, here are the recruits we had that were drafted that I could find.
#80 pick...Tyler Sample, right handed pitcher, Denver, Colorado
#130 pick..Braden Schlehuber, catcher, College of S. Idaho
#196 pick..Colby Shreve
Crisp could be a boxer with moves like that, he ducked a haymaker from Shields.
Quote from: InfamousHound on June 05, 2008, 06:01:46 pm
Here's a question for the regulars on this thread.
Before John McLaren's tirade last night, who actually knew the Mariners' skipper's name?
I am stationed 45 minutes from Seattle and I had no idea what his name was until now.
I'm a fan of the team and didn't know his name.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 05, 2008, 05:56:40 pm
HOLY CRAP the Red Sox and Rays just got in a HUGE brawl. James Shields nailed Coco Crisp (continuing the crap that went on last night) and he charged the mound. Chaos everywhere. The bright side was that Shields was thrown out of the game and it's only the 2nd inning. Hold on tight, because I'm sure there will be more to come throughout the game. I don't know how Johnny Gomes and Carl Crawford weren't ejected, because they were right in the middle of this thing. Stay tuned.
Josh, Gomes did get ejected.
BTW Crisp got whatever he deserved.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on June 06, 2008, 04:31:36 am
BTW Crisp got whatever he deserved.
Yeah he did. That slide the game before was bush league.
And I think Johnny Gomes is one of my new favorite players lol.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on June 06, 2008, 03:40:02 pm
And I think Johnny Gomes is one of my new favorite players lol.
I've like Gomes, and Crawford jumped in there too and got a few shots in. I like him too now.
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Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on June 06, 2008, 03:40:02 pm
And I think Johnny Gomes is one of my new favorite players lol.
I've like Gomes, and Crawford jumped in there too and got a few shots in. I like him too now.
If you watch carefully that second basemen that got run over got a couple shots in as well. A classic baseball brawl.
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Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on June 06, 2008, 03:40:02 pm
And I think Johnny Gomes is one of my new favorite players lol.
I've like Gomes, and Crawford jumped in there too and got a few shots in. I like him too now.
If you watch carefully that second basemen that got run over got a couple shots in as well. A classic baseball brawl.
Best brawl I've seen in a long time, glad the Red Sox were on the losing end of it.
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Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on June 06, 2008, 04:31:36 am
BTW Crisp got whatever he deserved.
Yeah he did. That slide the game before was bush league.
Did yall see the play earlier in the game that led to that though? Not trying to be a SA, just asking.
Anyway, the Rays SS Jason Bartlett put his leg down in front of 2nd base when Crisp slid in head-first and he jammed his thumb during the play. Our announcers were saying that the way to eliminate someone from doing that is to slide in feet first, which he did. Obviously the slide was a little excessive to make a point, but it's not like he just did that out of the blue.
I expected Coco to get pegged last night, just not right off the bat mainly because Tampa was losing. That's what I don't get about the whole thing - they wasted one of their best SP's by doing so in the 2nd inning. It would've been better to hit him later in the game when they possibly had a lead.
Went to the Nats v. Giants game tonight. Giants got the win thanks to a 7-run third inning. I think the final was something like 10-1. Tim Lincecum for the Giants was stellar.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on June 06, 2008, 10:50:45 pmTim Lincecum for the Giants was stellar.
Crazy in that this is only his 2nd full season. Got drafted back in 2006.
Lincecum is going to be a stud and a possible future Cy Young winner.
Quote from: AB™ on June 06, 2008, 11:56:46 pm
Lincecum is going to be a stud and a possible future Cy Young winner.
It'll be tough for him having to go against Webb and Santana.
I definitely lost any respect I might have once had for Crisp.
Quote from: InfamousHound on June 07, 2008, 02:11:44 am
I definitely lost any respect I might have once had for Crisp.
I never knew much about him, as far as character, but in the post brawl interviews he sure came off as a low-class jerk.
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Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on June 06, 2008, 09:11:31 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on June 06, 2008, 04:31:36 am
BTW Crisp got whatever he deserved.
Yeah he did. That slide the game before was bush league.
Did yall see the play earlier in the game that led to that though? Not trying to be a SA, just asking.
Anyway, the Rays SS Jason Bartlett put his leg down in front of 2nd base when Crisp slid in head-first and he jammed his thumb during the play. Our announcers were saying that the way to eliminate someone from doing that is to slide in feet first, which he did. Obviously the slide was a little excessive to make a point, but it's not like he just did that out of the blue.
I expected Coco to get pegged last night, just not right off the bat mainly because Tampa was losing. That's what I don't get about the whole thing - they wasted one of their best SP's by doing so in the 2nd inning. It would've been better to hit him later in the game when they possibly had a lead.
Doesn't all that go back to spring training? I didn't see the earlier play. On the other side, B.J. Upton was acting like a baby after getting rung up for the second time. I was glad to see him get tossed.
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Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on June 06, 2008, 04:31:36 am
BTW Crisp got whatever he deserved.
Yeah he did. That slide the game before was bush league.
Did yall see the play earlier in the game that led to that though? Not trying to be a SA, just asking.
Anyway, the Rays SS Jason Bartlett put his leg down in front of 2nd base when Crisp slid in head-first and he jammed his thumb during the play. Our announcers were saying that the way to eliminate someone from doing that is to slide in feet first, which he did. Obviously the slide was a little excessive to make a point, but it's not like he just did that out of the blue.
I expected Coco to get pegged last night, just not right off the bat mainly because Tampa was losing. That's what I don't get about the whole thing - they wasted one of their best SP's by doing so in the 2nd inning. It would've been better to hit him later in the game when they possibly had a lead.
Doesn't all that go back to spring training? I didn't see the earlier play. On the other side, B.J. Upton was acting like a baby after getting rung up for the second time. I was glad to see him get tossed.
No, the spring training brawl was actually with the Yankees. They had a similar situation when Shelley Duncan slid extremely hard through 2nd base, then the fight ensued.
Saw where Johnny Damon went 6-6 today. That's amazing, even for a Yankee.
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Quote from: AB™ on June 06, 2008, 11:56:46 pm
Lincecum is going to be a stud and a possible future Cy Young winner.
It'll be tough for him having to go against Webb and Santana.
Santana probably only has 4 maybe 5 years left to be a good to dominate starter. Webb will be his main competition for the majority of his career. He also better hope the Giants get much better offensively or he'll never win a Cy Young unless he puts up eye popping numbers.
I will be holding my breath until I hear the extent of Adam Wainwright's finger injury.
Ken Griffey Jr just hit #600 not to long ago.
Yes and he hit it in front of hundreds in Florida.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on June 09, 2008, 08:32:04 pm
Yes and he hit it in front of hundreds in Florida.
You'd think being in Miami they'd be able to draw a decent crowd. Especially since they're always a good team.
There will still enough people for someone to claim he had the home run ball in his hat and had it stripped away ... come to find out, MLB authorized that somebody else had Junior's home run ball.
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Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on June 09, 2008, 08:32:04 pm
Yes and he hit it in front of hundreds in Florida.
You'd think being in Miami they'd be able to draw a decent crowd. Especially since they're always a good team.
If its not the Dolphins people in Miami just don't care. The Hurricanes don't even sell out most of their football games.
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Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on June 09, 2008, 08:32:04 pm
Yes and he hit it in front of hundreds in Florida.
You'd think being in Miami they'd be able to draw a decent crowd. Especially since they're always a good team.
If its not the Dolphins people in Miami just don't care. The Hurricanes don't even sell out most of their football games.
Truth be told, if I had the choice of either South Beach or a Marlins game....South Beach it'd be.
Rays just went back to back to back against the Angels.
Indians win 8-2 and Arkansas native Cliff Lee gets his tenth win of the season (10-1).
Glad to see Griffey reach 600. He's done it the right way and if it wasn't for all of his injuries it's a safe bet to say we'd be talking about him passing Bonds in the next 3 or 4 years, probably sooner. My guess, had he stayed reasonably healthy after going to Cincy he'd already be around the 715 mark. With that said I still have much more respect for his 600 than I do Sosa's 609, and Bonds' 762. One of the biggest "What If" athletes of any generation.
No doubt. Griffey will always be a thought of as a "what if" player. Shame.
I like most kids my age was a gigantic Griffey fan growing up. I am really happy I had the chance to see him play in person (even tho I did miss seeing him hit #500 by on freakn day). One of the few greats who have very little controversy over the years (if he has even had any).
I think the most controversy Griffey has ever caused was that he was seen as a bit cocky and a showboat when he was a younger player. Even then it wasn't anything that can hold a candle to the young hot shot athletes of today's sporting world.
I had the pleasure of seeing Griffey in person as well more than 10 years ago. He and A-Rod were still with Seattle. Randy Johnson was as well he just didn't pitch in either game I saw at that time.
Griffey in his prime is still the best player I've seen in my lifetime. It's a shame that he suffered so many injuries on the back end of his career. People forget he was an amazing defensive player and him running and diving all over the place contributed to his injuries.
He made the All-Century team and he was still in the prime of his career. I agree with SMC. Griffey was the best player I had ever seen and wasn't afraid to argue him being in Ruth's and Mays' category. I still do challenge that Bonds is a top 3 or 4 player of all-time as well. Steriod accusations take care of the other side of the argument for Bonds though. Before Bonds started taking whatever he took and got to big to be fast he was a great defensive player as well. And he is still the only member of the 500/400 or 500/500 club.
Had Bonds stayed off the roids, and honestly reached 650 HR's or so than I would have no problem in saying he is the best player of all-time. But his legacy is forever tarnished because he felt the need to "enhance" his body. Whether it had a big affect on his play as he got older doesn't matter. It still tarneishes all the great things he did on the field prior to that.
I am so happy that this finally happened, and it couldn't have happened to a better player. I was pretty upset that he didn't get near the coverage from the media after 599 that Manny did after 499. Granted, 500 is a great accomplishment, but 23 other players have done it. Griffey has been my favorite player for my entire life. I have never followed a player more closely in any sport than I have followed Griffey. I have only seen him play once in my life, although I have been to 4 Reds game since he has been with them. He was hurt the other three games, while one injury coming the day before we were going to see them play. The game I did see him play is one I will never forget. After a three hour rain delay that postponed the start until 10:00, the Reds were losing to the Breweres 5-3 going into the bottom of the 9th. After a single, a walk, a sacrifice, and 2 more walks, Griffey came to the plate down 5-4 with 1 out and the bases loaded. He was having a terrible night, 0-3 with 2 groundouts and a flyout. Griffey took a 1-1 pitch the other way, hitting it to the warning track in left-center to knock in the final 2 runs of the game. Although, I would like to see him homer in a game in person, I am completely satisfied with seeing my favorite player hit a walk-off hit. BTW, the game ended at 1:15 in the morning.
Quote from: Rizzo on June 09, 2008, 08:55:31 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on June 09, 2008, 08:32:04 pm
Yes and he hit it in front of hundreds in Florida.
You'd think being in Miami they'd be able to draw a decent crowd. Especially since they're always a good team.
It's like a NFL team in LA. Too much to do to really care.
Griffey was my favorite player growing up, and even is to this day. Raise your hand if you ever tried to go out in the back yard and recreate his sweet swing. I know I did on almost a daily basis.
Griffey is the sole reason I "taught" myself to hit lefty as a kid. My neighbor and I for a good 3 or 4 years had endless all-day home run derbies we both spent much of that time hitting lefty and trying to impersonate Griffey's swing. By the time I was 11 I could actually hit pretty well from the left side of the plate trying to be Griffey. Granted I was hitting tennis balls coming in probably no faster than 45 or 50 MPH. In my opinion he has the prettiest swing I have ever seen.
Griffey has always been my favorite player as well. He has the perfect swing.
The Kid is one of the few sports figures still playing that I idolized in elementary school.
Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on June 08, 2008, 01:38:30 am
I will be holding my breath until I hear the extent of Adam Wainwright's finger injury.
Saw where he was placed on the DL yesterday. Not good news for the Cardinals.
I'm enjoying these 5:00 start times for Red Sox games here lately. They've been doing so to make sure the games get over in time for the NBA Finals to start. It's nice watching the Sox late afternoon/early evening. Facing the O's tonight.
Oh, and Chief, did you see J.D. on Sunday? Solo homer and another double to drive in both our runs in the 2-1 win against Seattle. You can make a case for him being the team MVP to this point. It's great to see.
Single A ball for D Willis.
Talk about a fall.
As if the rain couldn't fall any harder for Atlanta, Tom Glavine just left the game against the Cubs with an injury. We aren't too many injuries away from fielding an entirely different team than our opening day lineup.
Albert goes down with what could be a serious injury tonight. ( Cubs fans are having a party somewhere)
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on June 10, 2008, 11:14:57 pm
Albert goes down with what could be a serious injury tonight. ( Cubs fans are having a party somewhere)
Ouch. What happened?
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 10, 2008, 11:19:29 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on June 10, 2008, 11:14:57 pm
Albert goes down with what could be a serious injury tonight. ( Cubs fans are having a party somewhere)
Ouch. What happened?
Was running out of the box on a base hit and something happened with his calf. He had to be carried off the field.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on June 10, 2008, 11:21:06 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 10, 2008, 11:19:29 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on June 10, 2008, 11:14:57 pm
Albert goes down with what could be a serious injury tonight. ( Cubs fans are having a party somewhere)
Ouch. What happened?
Was running out of the box on a base hit and something happened with his calf. He had to be carried off the field.
Holy crap. That would be an incredible blow if he was out for an extended period of time.
While I do hate the Cardinals, I don't wish injury on anyone. I hope he's alright.
For some reason I've never disliked Pujols. It's weird because in sports the teams I hate the most usually have one of the players I hate the most. The Patriots have Tom Brady, the Lakers have Kobe, and the Yankees have Jeter. But I've always respected Pujols. If he is out for an extended period of time the Cards are going to be in serious trouble. I know they are the Cubs, but this really seems to be the year they are just too good to collapse and lose this division to inferiorly talented teams.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 10, 2008, 11:25:57 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on June 10, 2008, 11:21:06 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 10, 2008, 11:19:29 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on June 10, 2008, 11:14:57 pm
Albert goes down with what could be a serious injury tonight. ( Cubs fans are having a party somewhere)
Ouch. What happened?
Was running out of the box on a base hit and something happened with his calf. He had to be carried off the field.
Holy crap. That would be an incredible blow if he was out for an extended period of time.
While I do hate the Cardinals, I don't wish injury on anyone. I hope he's alright.
I really hope it just looked bad.
Quote from: AB™ on June 10, 2008, 11:30:54 pm
For some reason I've never disliked Pujols. It's weird because in sports the teams I hate the most usually have one of the players I hate the most. The Patriots have Tom Brady, the Lakers have Kobe, and the Yankees have Jeter. But I've always respected Pujols. If he is out for an extended period of time the Cards are going to be in serious trouble. I know they are the Cubs, but this really seems to be the year they are just too good to collapse and lose this division to inferiorly talented teams.
Well we also have ten pitchers on the DL. Its going to be hard for us to give them a run this banged up. Its a shame really.
Quote from: AB™ on June 10, 2008, 11:30:54 pm
For some reason I've never disliked Pujols. It's weird because in sports the teams I hate the most usually have one of the players I hate the most. The Patriots have Tom Brady, the Lakers have Kobe, and the Yankees have Jeter. But I've always respected Pujols. If he is out for an extended period of time the Cards are going to be in serious trouble. I know they are the Cubs, but this really seems to be the year they are just too good to collapse and lose this division to inferiorly talented teams.
How can you hate Jeter? A-Rod, I'd understand, but Jeter?
Story and video on Alberts injury:
http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080610&content_id=2885019&vkey=news_stl&fext=.jsp&c_id=stl
Albert just doesn't do much to make people 'hate' him.
basically just goes about his business.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on June 10, 2008, 11:53:36 pm
Albert just doesn't do much to make people 'hate' him.
basically just goes about his business.
He also does a TON of charity work in and around the STL area. And has donated a ton of money for research into Autism.
On ESPN LaRussa was saying that Pujols IS going on the DL this time and Chris Duncan has already been alerted to be ready to move. They are just waiting the official results from his examination. LaRussa seemed to be pretty sure about the DL. He didn't like the way it looked and wants to be sure he is healthy.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 10, 2008, 03:32:23 pm
Quote from: jbell96 6/6 on June 08, 2008, 01:38:30 am
I will be holding my breath until I hear the extent of Adam Wainwright's finger injury.
Saw where he was placed on the DL yesterday. Not good news for the Cardinals.
I'm enjoying these 5:00 start times for Red Sox games here lately. They've been doing so to make sure the games get over in time for the NBA Finals to start. It's nice watching the Sox late afternoon/early evening. Facing the O's tonight.
Oh, and Chief, did you see J.D. on Sunday? Solo homer and another double to drive in both our runs in the 2-1 win against Seattle. You can make a case for him being the team MVP to this point. It's great to see.
The injury to Wainwright isn't serious, strained finger, but will still be a blow to us. Albert's strained calf is more of a concern though.
Quote from: Rizzo on June 10, 2008, 11:35:58 pm
Quote from: AB™ on June 10, 2008, 11:30:54 pm
For some reason I've never disliked Pujols. It's weird because in sports the teams I hate the most usually have one of the players I hate the most. The Patriots have Tom Brady, the Lakers have Kobe, and the Yankees have Jeter. But I've always respected Pujols. If he is out for an extended period of time the Cards are going to be in serious trouble. I know they are the Cubs, but this really seems to be the year they are just too good to collapse and lose this division to inferiorly talented teams.
How can you hate Jeter? A-Rod, I'd understand, but Jeter?
Mainly because I feel he has been guilty of being the most overrated player in the game. Yes, he is a great player whose value goes way beyond the average numbers he puts up. Take his catch where he ended up in the stands after it was all over. ESPN hailed that as one of the greatest catches ever. When in all reality, if you watch it, he clearly makes the catch still in foul territory and a decent distance away from the stands. His momentum just carried him into the stands. That isn't the only reason, just an example. He and Brady are both huge media darlings, and ESPN has huge mancrushes on them both.
All those roids are getting to him.
Quote from: AB™ on June 11, 2008, 12:57:18 pm
Quote from: Rizzo on June 10, 2008, 11:35:58 pm
Quote from: AB™ on June 10, 2008, 11:30:54 pm
For some reason I've never disliked Pujols. It's weird because in sports the teams I hate the most usually have one of the players I hate the most. The Patriots have Tom Brady, the Lakers have Kobe, and the Yankees have Jeter. But I've always respected Pujols. If he is out for an extended period of time the Cards are going to be in serious trouble. I know they are the Cubs, but this really seems to be the year they are just too good to collapse and lose this division to inferiorly talented teams.
How can you hate Jeter? A-Rod, I'd understand, but Jeter?
Mainly because I feel he has been guilty of being the most overrated player in the game. Yes, he is a great player whose value goes way beyond the average numbers he puts up. Take his catch where he ended up in the stands after it was all over. ESPN hailed that as one of the greatest catches ever. When in all reality, if you watch it, he clearly makes the catch still in foul territory and a decent distance away from the stands. His momentum just carried him into the stands. That isn't the only reason, just an example. He and Brady are both huge media darlings, and ESPN has huge mancrushes on them both.
That catch was praised because of the blatant disregard he showed for his health. Most, if not all other SS's in the game would have held up, so they didn't go into the stands.
Quote from: Rizzo on June 11, 2008, 06:10:49 pm
Quote from: AB™ on June 11, 2008, 12:57:18 pm
Quote from: Rizzo on June 10, 2008, 11:35:58 pm
Quote from: AB™ on June 10, 2008, 11:30:54 pm
For some reason I've never disliked Pujols. It's weird because in sports the teams I hate the most usually have one of the players I hate the most. The Patriots have Tom Brady, the Lakers have Kobe, and the Yankees have Jeter. But I've always respected Pujols. If he is out for an extended period of time the Cards are going to be in serious trouble. I know they are the Cubs, but this really seems to be the year they are just too good to collapse and lose this division to inferiorly talented teams.
How can you hate Jeter? A-Rod, I'd understand, but Jeter?
Mainly because I feel he has been guilty of being the most overrated player in the game. Yes, he is a great player whose value goes way beyond the average numbers he puts up. Take his catch where he ended up in the stands after it was all over. ESPN hailed that as one of the greatest catches ever. When in all reality, if you watch it, he clearly makes the catch still in foul territory and a decent distance away from the stands. His momentum just carried him into the stands. That isn't the only reason, just an example. He and Brady are both huge media darlings, and ESPN has huge mancrushes on them both.
That catch was praised because of the blatant disregard he showed for his health. Most, if not all other SS's in the game would have held up, so they didn't go into the stands.
Yet, many would have still caught that one without going into the stands. He seemed to play it up.
Soriano on his way to the hospital after getting hit by a pitch in the Braves game.
Injury bug is rampant right now.
But for Cubs fans the train keeps rolling as the lead ATL 5-0 with them loaded and no outs in the 3rd.
Right now Atlanta is going to need a miracle. We are getting hit with the injury bug as bad as anyone in baseball. Right when we seemed to be getting hot too. This is just getting ridiculous.
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on June 11, 2008, 07:46:32 pm
Quote from: Rizzo on June 11, 2008, 06:10:49 pm
Quote from: AB™ on June 11, 2008, 12:57:18 pm
Quote from: Rizzo on June 10, 2008, 11:35:58 pm
Quote from: AB™ on June 10, 2008, 11:30:54 pm
For some reason I've never disliked Pujols. It's weird because in sports the teams I hate the most usually have one of the players I hate the most. The Patriots have Tom Brady, the Lakers have Kobe, and the Yankees have Jeter. But I've always respected Pujols. If he is out for an extended period of time the Cards are going to be in serious trouble. I know they are the Cubs, but this really seems to be the year they are just too good to collapse and lose this division to inferiorly talented teams.
How can you hate Jeter? A-Rod, I'd understand, but Jeter?
Mainly because I feel he has been guilty of being the most overrated player in the game. Yes, he is a great player whose value goes way beyond the average numbers he puts up. Take his catch where he ended up in the stands after it was all over. ESPN hailed that as one of the greatest catches ever. When in all reality, if you watch it, he clearly makes the catch still in foul territory and a decent distance away from the stands. His momentum just carried him into the stands. That isn't the only reason, just an example. He and Brady are both huge media darlings, and ESPN has huge mancrushes on them both.
That catch was praised because of the blatant disregard he showed for his health. Most, if not all other SS's in the game would have held up, so they didn't go into the stands.
Yet, many would have still caught that one without going into the stands. He seemed to play it up.
I disagree. He was at a full sprint, even when he caught the ball.
Fracture for A Soriano.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3438569
6 weeks or so.
I will go on record that Albert P is out a lot longer than 3 weeks.
Quote from: Rizzo on June 11, 2008, 06:10:49 pm
Quote from: AB™ on June 11, 2008, 12:57:18 pm
Quote from: Rizzo on June 10, 2008, 11:35:58 pm
Quote from: AB™ on June 10, 2008, 11:30:54 pm
For some reason I've never disliked Pujols. It's weird because in sports the teams I hate the most usually have one of the players I hate the most. The Patriots have Tom Brady, the Lakers have Kobe, and the Yankees have Jeter. But I've always respected Pujols. If he is out for an extended period of time the Cards are going to be in serious trouble. I know they are the Cubs, but this really seems to be the year they are just too good to collapse and lose this division to inferiorly talented teams.
How can you hate Jeter? A-Rod, I'd understand, but Jeter?
Mainly because I feel he has been guilty of being the most overrated player in the game. Yes, he is a great player whose value goes way beyond the average numbers he puts up. Take his catch where he ended up in the stands after it was all over. ESPN hailed that as one of the greatest catches ever. When in all reality, if you watch it, he clearly makes the catch still in foul territory and a decent distance away from the stands. His momentum just carried him into the stands. That isn't the only reason, just an example. He and Brady are both huge media darlings, and ESPN has huge mancrushes on them both.
That catch was praised because of the blatant disregard he showed for his health. Most, if not all other SS's in the game would have held up, so they didn't go into the stands.
I'm not saying he could have caught it without going into the stands. It was just ridiculous how much ESPN and even Jeter appeared to play it up as a catch of they year type play.
Quote from: AB™ on June 11, 2008, 09:53:27 pm
Quote from: Rizzo on June 11, 2008, 06:10:49 pm
Quote from: AB™ on June 11, 2008, 12:57:18 pm
Quote from: Rizzo on June 10, 2008, 11:35:58 pm
Quote from: AB™ on June 10, 2008, 11:30:54 pm
For some reason I've never disliked Pujols. It's weird because in sports the teams I hate the most usually have one of the players I hate the most. The Patriots have Tom Brady, the Lakers have Kobe, and the Yankees have Jeter. But I've always respected Pujols. If he is out for an extended period of time the Cards are going to be in serious trouble. I know they are the Cubs, but this really seems to be the year they are just too good to collapse and lose this division to inferiorly talented teams.
How can you hate Jeter? A-Rod, I'd understand, but Jeter?
Mainly because I feel he has been guilty of being the most overrated player in the game. Yes, he is a great player whose value goes way beyond the average numbers he puts up. Take his catch where he ended up in the stands after it was all over. ESPN hailed that as one of the greatest catches ever. When in all reality, if you watch it, he clearly makes the catch still in foul territory and a decent distance away from the stands. His momentum just carried him into the stands. That isn't the only reason, just an example. He and Brady are both huge media darlings, and ESPN has huge mancrushes on them both.
That catch was praised because of the blatant disregard he showed for his health. Most, if not all other SS's in the game would have held up, so they didn't go into the stands.
I'm not saying he could have caught it without going into the stands. It was just ridiculous how much ESPN and even Jeter appeared to play it up as a catch of they year type play.
I didn't think Jeter played it up that much. ESPN on the other hand, did.
Duncan was called up to fill Wainwrights place on the roster. Pinero will fill Albert's slot tomorrow.
Alfonso Soriano is going to be out six weeks after being hit in the hand by a pitch today.
J.D. Drew is the freaking MAN! He hit ANOTHER 2 run homer tonight and also added a double to run his hit streak to 11 games. He has been the hottest player in baseball the last few weeks and has more than picked up the slack while David Ortiz has been out.
Red Sox win 9-2 and improve to an MLB best 28-7 at home.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 12, 2008, 08:00:54 pm
Red Sox win 9-2 and improve to an MLB best 28-7 at home.
So, exactly how bad are the Sox on the road? Read an article yesterday I think that stated that the Cards were one of only 3 teams in the MLB that had a winning road record.
I'm hoping they are absolutely terrible, at least for this weekend that is what I'm hoping for. They start a series in Cincinnati tomorrow. Cincinnati has been pretty solid at home this year, so I'm hoping that will keep up.
The Reds have taken the lead on Boston 3-1 in the bottom of the 4th. Until this inning, the Reds' only hit was on a leadoff homerun by Jay Bruce in the 1st. Dunn hit a solo shot to give the Reds a 2-1 lead, and then back to back doubles by Edwin Encarnacion and Joey Votto gave the Reds a 3-1 lead.
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on June 12, 2008, 08:47:15 pm
So, exactly how bad are the Sox on the road?
Nothing special, but then again no one is on the road this year.
Griffey, did you get to watch the game tonight by any chance? I was out of town and missed it. From the box score it sounds like Justin Masterson had a really good outing, just got outdueled by Harang. Masterson is going to be one heckuva pitcher.
Runs are going to be even more difficult to come by tomorrow seeing that we face Volquez.
The Cardinals are getting shelled 20-2, and the announcers called the Aaron Miles 1-2-3 9th inning frame like it clinched the World Series.
What an embarassment.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 13, 2008, 10:10:01 pm
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on June 12, 2008, 08:47:15 pm
So, exactly how bad are the Sox on the road?
Nothing special, but then again no one is on the road this year.
Griffey, did you get to watch the game tonight by any chance? I was out of town and missed it. From the box score it sounds like Justin Masterson had a really good outing, just got outdueled by Harang. Masterson is going to be one heckuva pitcher.
Runs are going to be even more difficult to come by tomorrow seeing that we face Volquez.
Yeah, I got to watch most of it. Materson had a very good outing. He gave up that leadoff homerun to Bruce, then didn't give up another hit until the 4th when he gave up that shot to Dunn. He also struck out 7 in that period of time. Harang was just on tonight, and the Reds got hits when it mattered. I think Boston even outhit us 5-4 if I'm not mistaken.
Hopefully Volquez is in his normal form tomorrow, maybe a series win against the Red Sox can get us going on a little run.
Quote from: InfamousHound on June 13, 2008, 10:40:23 pm
The Cardinals are getting shelled 20-2, and the announcers called the Aaron Miles 1-2-3 9th inning frame like it clinched the World Series.
What an embarassment.
I almost drove into a flooded ditch when I heard the score coming home.
What a game so far in the Queen City. In the bottom half of the 9th inning with 2 outs, Edwin Encarnacion takes Papelbon deep for only Papelbon's third blown save of the season sending it into free baseball. Then, in the top half of the 10th inning frame, the Cincinnati native Youkilis and CoCo Crisp go back-to-back.
What channel is this?
ImfamousHound, you may want to change some stuff.
Isringhausen came back from the DL today. So you might want to use "I'm back ... be afraid ... be VERY afraid."
Fortunately, he didn't pitch and Cards won.
Nice win today after that stuff yesterday. Now was can go out and win the series tomorrow.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on June 14, 2008, 10:58:55 pm
Nice win today after that stuff yesterday. Now was can go out and win the series tomorrow.
Without Pujols anchoring the middle of the lineup and the way Philadelphia has the ability to put crooked numbers on the scoreboard (as evident Friday), I'd be ecstatic to take 2 out of 3 from the Phils.
Thank goodness the Royals are coming to town.
As of right now, there is not a single team in the AL East currently UNDER .500. How amazing is that? We're halfway through June and Toronto is the only team who's not over .500, although they're sitting at 35-35. There's no question it's the toughest division in baseball this year by far.
Cards/Red Sox this weekend. I think the bet should be called off since Pujols & Wainwright are on the DL which severely hampers our chances. ;)
Quote from: jbell96 on June 16, 2008, 02:55:33 am
Cards/Red Sox this weekend. I think the bet should be called off since Pujols & Wainwright are on the DL which severely hampers our chances. ;)
Boston doesn't have Ortiz or Dice-K. ;)
Pujols-Ortiz is a decent trade-off. However, Wainwright-DiceK isn't. Wainwright is the Cards' ace, and DiceK isn't.
Just my 10 cents worth (inflation rates). ;)
Dice-K isn't the Ace of the Sox staff. They have a Cy Young caliber pitcher to fill that role. Wainwright may mean more to the Cards, although it hasn't really showed yet. Boston has been getting great pitching from people like Masterson and haven't really missed a beat after Ortiz went on the DL. Then again, IMO, Boston is the best team in baseball and obviously has good depth. They are also in first place in the best division in baseball.
A bit of an ironic injury. Wang of the Yankees is going to be in a protective boot for 6 weeks and sounds like he can look to come back in September at the earliest. He injured himself running the bases. Stupid interleague play.
Possible World Series preview right now on ESPN. Phillies and Red Sox underway.
Rollins hit a leadoff homer and Howard hit a 2 run homer in the bottom of the first to give the Phillies an early 3-0 lead.
EDIT: Phillies/Sox game update. Only so I won't have the last 4 posts in this thread. ;D
Ryan Howard has two homers and a triple and has accounted for 4 of the Phillies 8 RBI's. When Ryan Howard gets a triple off of you then it just isn't meant to be. I don't know why Francona continues to use Timlin out of the bullpen. He has been pretty bad this year. Phillies up 8-2 in the 6th.
Dear Mike Timlin,
You are horrible. Please retire.
Signed, Red Sox Nation
Quote from: AB™ on June 16, 2008, 05:07:37 pm
A bit of an ironic injury. Wang of the Yankees is going to be in a protective boot for 6 weeks and sounds like he can look to come back in September at the earliest. He injured himself running the bases. Stupid interleague play.
That is a huge, huge blow. The Yankees are just now starting to come around and play well winning 5 straight. It's gonna be tough to replace the ace of the staff although Mussina has turned it around and is having a very good year.
Quote from: jbell96 on June 16, 2008, 02:55:33 am
Cards/Red Sox this weekend. I think the bet should be called off since Pujols & Wainwright are on the DL which severely hampers our chances. ;)
Uh oh jbell, scared of coming to Fenway? :)
I say the bet should still be on. Who's in? I know 95% of yall are Cardinals fans, so if you have any faith in your team man up and join in.
After you openly cheered Elijah Dukes hitting a walkoff HR against the Cards I joined the bet.
Mets winning tonight as Willie holds his job a little longer.
Or so it'd seem.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 16, 2008, 08:14:38 pm
Dear Mike Timlin,
You are horrible. Please retire.
Signed, Red Sox Nation
That guy is still around? I wonder if he and Jamie Moyer have reunions or anything.
Jamie Moyer and Randy Johnson I think came up around the same time Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier. ;D
Julio Franco broke into the bigs about the same time as Polo Grounds and Ebbets Field opened.
Quote from: RHS on June 16, 2008, 11:48:40 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 16, 2008, 08:14:38 pm
Dear Mike Timlin,
You are horrible. Please retire.
Signed, Red Sox Nation
That guy is still around? I wonder if he and Jamie Moyer have reunions or anything.
Yes, unfortunately for Boston he's still around. I have a ton of respect for the guy and he was a huge part of the bullpen when we won the WS in '04 and '07, but he is just embarassing himself now and I hate to see him go out like this. I wish he would've just retired after the WS last year. However, something HAS to be done. We can't just sit back and continue to let him have a spot on the roster with him continuously getting lit up night in and night out.
Quote from: jbell96 on June 16, 2008, 11:12:31 pm
After you openly cheered Elijah Dukes hitting a walkoff HR against the Cards I joined the bet.
Hey, it was exciting. :)
So as of right now we've got:
Red Sox - me, AB, RHS
Cardinals - jbell, bulldogs1159, rabs_fan4life
If you want another Red Sox person in on this I'm in. They aren't "my team" but they are my favorite AL team and most of you all know I don't like the Cards.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 17, 2008, 12:06:04 am
Quote from: jbell96 on June 16, 2008, 11:12:31 pm
After you openly cheered Elijah Dukes hitting a walkoff HR against the Cards I joined the bet.
Hey, it was exciting. :)
So as of right now we've got:
Red Sox - me, AB
Cardinals - jbell
Infamoushound, rabs_fan, Mike Diesel, J'Lo, etc... where yall at???
Thought I was already in.
I'm in on the Sox side.
As for the terms of the bet, how about this:
If the Sox win the series, the Cardinals fans change their avatar for a week, and vice versa.
If either team happened to sweep (which I doubt) it would be for a month.
Sound good?
I'm down.
K. What would we be changing it too?
Randolph gone anyway.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on June 17, 2008, 01:46:23 am
What would we be changing it too?
The team logo avatar is what we usually go with which would be fine by me. I also recommend that a phrase below the avatar be included.
I don't know why the mets organization would fire Randolph at 3:15 in the morning i was watching sportscenter eariler this afternoon and boy was the media people was upset in my opinion i think it was ludacris for them to that.
What real difference does the time make?
Jon Lester pitched a gem tonight as the Red Sox shut down Philly's high powered offense 3-0.
Papelbon struck out the side in the 9th to get the save.
We got to Dallas one night early and decided to go catch the first game of the Rangers/Braves series tonight. Hudson struck out the first two batters than gave up a homer to Hamilton. He followed that by giving up 4 runs in the 3rd inning. Freakin' Vicente Padilla carried a no hitter into the 6th inning. I know he is having a good year but still. Marlon Byrd his his 3rd homer of the night. Needless to say it wasn't meant to be for the Braves tonight. We left after the 7th inning with Texas up 6-2 and got back to our hotel to see pretty much all of the second half of the Celtics/Lakers game. But Atlanta apparently got an 8th inning rally and scored 3 runs and ended up losing 7-5. We've got tickets for the next two games as well. God only knows what will happen. Our pitching staff is beyond banged up right now and we are terrible on the road.
Quote from: Quite Frankly on June 17, 2008, 07:56:33 pm
What real difference does the time make?
The Eastern media was throwing a fit that it was 3:30 in the morning. Do they not realize that the entire country does not work on their timezone? I mean it was only just after midnight there. They had to get done with the post game stuff go to the hotel and have the meeting. Sometimes the stupidity of the media has no bounds.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 17, 2008, 12:06:04 am
Quote from: jbell96 on June 16, 2008, 11:12:31 pm
After you openly cheered Elijah Dukes hitting a walkoff HR against the Cards I joined the bet.
Hey, it was exciting. :)
So as of right now we've got:
Red Sox - me, AB, RHS
Cardinals - jbell, bulldogs1159
Infamoushound, rabs_fan, Mike Diesel, J'Lo, etc... where yall at???
I know the odds of the outcome of this coming out in our favor but I'm a Cards fan thru and thru so if you want me in...count me in! I stick by em'!! GO CARDINALS!!
P.S.--what did I just sign myself up for? Don't feel like going back to find the details.
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 18, 2008, 07:03:48 amP.S.--what did I just sign myself up for? Don't feel like going back to find the details.
If the Sox win the series, the Cardinals fans change their avatar for a week, and vice versa.
If either team happens to sweep (which I doubt) it would be for a month.
Is everyone ok with a phrase below the avatar? I have something in mind. :D
...And J.D. Drew continues to tear the cover off the baseball. He hit a 3 run homer in the 1st inning at Philly today to give him 13 on the season, and just doubled off the RF wall. Philly fans keep booing him, and he keeps hitting. What a season.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 18, 2008, 12:59:36 pm
...And J.D. Drew continues to tear the cover off the baseball. He hit a 3 run homer in the 1st inning at Philly today to give him 13 on the season, and just doubled off the RF wall. Philly fans keep booing him, and he keeps raking. What a season.
Sox up 4-1 in the 3rd.
That boy has ALWAYS had the talent. Something was just never right inside him.
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on June 18, 2008, 02:05:13 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 18, 2008, 12:59:36 pm
...And J.D. Drew continues to tear the cover off the baseball. He hit a 3 run homer in the 1st inning at Philly today to give him 13 on the season, and just doubled off the RF wall. Philly fans keep booing him, and he keeps raking. What a season.
Sox up 4-1 in the 3rd.
That boy has ALWAYS had the talent. Something was just never right inside him.
He is RAKING today. 4-4 with 2 singles, a double, a 3 run homer, and 4 RBI's. He's a triple shy of the cycle but we're only in the 6th inning so there's still time. :)
Sox pounding Philly 7-2.
I'm still all in, and I specifically want the right to choose Josh's avatar and caption.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 18, 2008, 12:50:01 pm
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 18, 2008, 07:03:48 amP.S.--what did I just sign myself up for? Don't feel like going back to find the details.
Is everyone ok with a phrase below the avatar? I have something in mind. :D
Why the heck not...might as well add insult to injury. Someone better than myself will have to come up with the one for the BoSox fans to use if my the grace of God the Cards won. J'lo...T'dub...Diesel...JBell....get to thinking fellas and I'll see if I can come up with something worth using!
Quote from: Infamous on June 18, 2008, 08:57:28 pm
I'm still all in, and I specifically want the right to choose Josh's avatar and caption.
I wouldn't worry about it considering St. Louis is about to get pounded just like that obliteration in '04. :)
Good lord, the Cubs lose two straight to Tampa, but we lose 2-1 & 3-2 at home to Kansas flippin City. Hopefully we'll turn it around in Boston.
Josh, I know the Sox swept the Cards in the 04 World Series, but the Cards did take 2 out of 3 in Fenway during interleague play that year. ;)
Quote from: jbell96 on June 18, 2008, 11:17:37 pm
Good lord, the Cubs lose two straight to Tampa, but we lose 2-1 & 3-2 at home to Kansas flippin City. Hopefully we'll turn it around in Boston.
You've gotta step up your game when you face the American League. ;)
The Royals game tonight cracked me up.
What happened in tonight's game? I just got to work about an hour ago.
Quote from: jbell96 on June 18, 2008, 11:41:30 pm
What happened in tonight's game? I just got to work about an hour ago.
Two fricken losses to KC in a row (especially right before heading into a series against Boston)...do you reallllly want to know more?? Spare yourself!
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 19, 2008, 04:47:15 pmTwo fricken losses to KC in a row (especially right before heading into a series against Boston)...do you reallllly want to know more?? Spare yourself!
And it's a Kansas City Royals SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP! :)
Glory.
Bring on the Cardinals!
I get to see the Braves play 3 times and they lose twice to the lowly Rangers. Guess I can't talk too much since they have a better record than we do. But the biggest reason the Braves are two games below .500 is due to a ton of injuries, mainly to our pitchers. Other than Tim Hudson in the starting rotation and Mike Gonzalez in the bullpen we have a bunch of no names, most of which weren't on the opening day roster. The Rangers just have terrible pitching as always but a pretty stacked lineup with Kinsler, Hamilton, and Young. Bradley got hurt in Tuesday night's game and didn't play the rest of the series.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 19, 2008, 07:54:23 pm
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 19, 2008, 04:47:15 pmTwo fricken losses to KC in a row (especially right before heading into a series against Boston)...do you reallllly want to know more?? Spare yourself!
And it's a Kansas City Royals SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP! :)
Glory.
Bring on the Cardinals!
Tell me when it's over... :'(
(http://bp1.blogger.com/_DY3YhPwA0lI/R7h-kChzu9I/AAAAAAAAAOo/Lf1YQjJ4nRw/s320/facepalm_bear.jpg)
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 19, 2008, 07:54:23 pm
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 19, 2008, 04:47:15 pmTwo fricken losses to KC in a row (especially right before heading into a series against Boston)...do you reallllly want to know more?? Spare yourself!
And it's a Kansas City Royals SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP! :)
Glory.
Bring on the Cardinals!
It's getting ugly!!! I'm just wondering if there are extra pay incentives for going on the DL this season. It seems that many, many teams are injury prone this season (especially pitchers). Could that have anything to do with the crackdown on HGH and such?
Bulldogs....IFFFFF y'all lose this series, you are definitely going to hear it. We are pretty pathetic at the moment.
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on June 19, 2008, 09:51:30 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 19, 2008, 07:54:23 pm
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 19, 2008, 04:47:15 pmTwo fricken losses to KC in a row (especially right before heading into a series against Boston)...do you reallllly want to know more?? Spare yourself!
And it's a Kansas City Royals SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP! :)
Glory.
Bring on the Cardinals!
It's getting ugly!!! I'm just wondering if there are extra pay incentives for going on the DL this season. It seems that many, many teams are injury prone this season (especially pitchers). Could that have anything to do with the crackdown on HGH and such?
Bulldogs....IFFFFF y'all lose this series, you are definitely going to hear it. We are pretty pathetic at the moment.
We just got SWEPT by KC...do I really need to point out that if that can happen then ANYTHING is possible! I still know better than to expect it...but my lord I'm thinking it can only go up from here!
Well lets look on the bright side, who am I kidding, there is no bright side, we just got swept by the freaking Royals! I'll get my avatar ready. ;)
Well I just don't see us losing six in a row.
(Plus no matter how good we have been over the years KC has had our number)
Stumble across this on Youtube. It's a review a quick review of World Series CHampions from 1980 forward. There is a shot of the KC/STL series call at first base from 1985.
My dad talks about it to this day. In fact, he did yesterday.
Enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Znqxx4oaFs
Whew! Cards-5; Red Sox-4.
Nice job in relief by Franklin despite the near dramatics by the Sox with 2 outs in the 9th.
LaRue, Schumaker and Molina all went yard. What a shot by Yodi off Oki! That proved to be the winner!
The Cardinals played well tonight. It was a good game. This was definitely their best chance to beat us though, as they had their ace in Lohse and we had our #5 in Wakefield. I thought we had a little rally there at the end but it fell just short. Dice on the hill tomorrow.
Let me ask you Cardinals fans a question. How in the heck do you manage to listen to Dan Mclaughlin and Al Hrabosky on a night to night basis? They bore the crap out of me. Unfortunately I was unable to get the game on NESN tonight since the Cardinals are our local team and it was blacked out, so I had to settle.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 20, 2008, 11:17:45 pm
The Cardinals played well tonight. It was a good game. This was definitely their best chance to beat us though, as they had their ace in Lohse and we had our #5 in Wakefield. I thought we had a little rally there at the end but it fell just short. Dice on the hill tomorrow.
Let me ask you Cardinals fans a question. How in the heck do you manage to listen to Dan Mclaughlin and Al Hrabosky on a night to night basis? They bore the crap out of me. Unfortunately I was unable to get the game on NESN tonight since the Cardinals are our local team and it was blacked out, so I had to settle.
I love listening to McLaughlin and Hrabosky. I think they are probably the most knowledgeable broadcasters you will here around baseball.
It couldn't be any worse than those awful looking green jerseys the Red Sox decided to wear to honor the Celtics.
By the way, I also like listening to McLaughlin and Hrabosky. Met Hrabosky in person once, and he's a great guy.
Quote from: ASU Rugby on June 20, 2008, 11:18:54 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 20, 2008, 11:17:45 pm
The Cardinals played well tonight. It was a good game. This was definitely their best chance to beat us though, as they had their ace in Lohse and we had our #5 in Wakefield. I thought we had a little rally there at the end but it fell just short. Dice on the hill tomorrow.
Let me ask you Cardinals fans a question. How in the heck do you manage to listen to Dan Mclaughlin and Al Hrabosky on a night to night basis? They bore the crap out of me. Unfortunately I was unable to get the game on NESN tonight since the Cardinals are our local team and it was blacked out, so I had to settle.
I love listening to McLaughlin and Hrabosky. I think they are probably the most knowledgeable broadcasters you will here around baseball.
Maybe it's just a Cardinals thing then. Who knows. I'm sure they're knowledgable guys, it just seemed like a dull broadcast tonight, that's all.
Quote from: SouthpawSensation on June 20, 2008, 11:47:24 pm
It couldn't be any worse than those awful looking green jerseys the Red Sox decided to wear to honor the Celtics.
I actually liked those. Haha.
FYI: Tomorrow's game is on Fox at 3:00.
Well, you could always have done the Cardinals radio broadcast with John Rooney and Mike Shannon. Those two are pretty good, too.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 20, 2008, 11:17:45 pm
The Cardinals played well tonight. It was a good game. This was definitely their best chance to beat us though, as they had their ace in Lohse and we had our #5 in Wakefield. I thought we had a little rally there at the end but it fell just short. Dice on the hill tomorrow.
Let me ask you Cardinals fans a question. How in the heck do you manage to listen to Dan Mclaughlin and Al Hrabosky on a night to night basis? They bore the crap out of me. Unfortunately I was unable to get the game on NESN tonight since the Cardinals are our local team and it was blacked out, so I had to settle.
Our ace? Insanity.
I forget about Wainwright since he's hurt. However, Lohse has been really, really solid.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 20, 2008, 11:17:45 pm
It was a good game. This was definitely their best chance to beat us though, as they had their ace in Lohse and we had our #5 in Wakefield. I thought we had a little rally there at the end but it fell just short. Dice on the hill tomorrow.
Sounds like sour grapes to me Josh. ;)
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 21, 2008, 03:18:21 am
I forget about Wainwright since he's hurt. However, Lohse has been really, really solid.
Wainwright, Wellemeyer...
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 21, 2008, 03:18:21 am
I forget about Wainwright since he's hurt. However, Lohse has been really, really solid.
That makes me mad about Lohse. He didn't do crap with the Reds. Speaking of the Reds, we had another rookie with a solid MLB debut today. Daryl Thompson threw 5 shutout innings, giving up only 4 hits and striking out 2. He did walk 4 batters though, so he needs to work on his control. The Reds took their 2nd from the Yankees today 6-0 in New York.
Josh...how you feeling right about now? I just came in from a wedding to see a 4-0 lead in the 2nd inning and almost pee'd myself. Cards fans...I think we might outta put some thought into Josh's avatar and sig line after all! OMG...GRAND SLAM TROY GLAUS 8-0 in the 2nd freaking inning. You started breathing again yet Josh??
And let me just get this out of my system...Boston has some rude freaking fans. I've never cared for Boston much in the first place...never really hated them either...just never cared forthem and this is securing it. I noticed it last night and then now too. I've seen more hollering and booing and seen the camera pass by more fans showing their arse than I've seen in a long time. Throwing the grand-slam ball back in wasn't that uncommon but might as well add that to the list too. I've picked up on that in a lot of the times I've ever watched Boston in the past so I don't know why it's such a suprise. I mean I know having your butt handed to you by the Cards is stinging a little bit right now but dang! People love to talk about how the only reason they don't like the Cardinals is because they have cocky fans...(I won't call out any specific names on here ;D )...but Boston really has no room to talk in that aspect...there about as cocky as anything I've seen in a long time!
Oh and for what it's worth I love listening to McLaughlin and Hrabosky...they're extremely knowledgable guys and I've never had a problem with them boring me! And don't be talking bad about the Mad Hungarian...he'll hunt you down!
And I can sort of see where you could call Loshe our ace right now...usually who ever is pitching the best for your team at that time is considered your ace and Loshe has the most wins for the Cards right now with 9-2 and Looper close behind with 8 wins and Wellemyer is definately right behind them and Wainwright ain't exactly having a bad year either considering he's been dealing with injury. Our pitching has turned up huge when we needed them this year!!
LETS GO CARDINALS!!!
Cards take the first two. Guess the people on the Cards side lose. Oh well. Since I'm a Braves fan thsi doesn't affect me much. I still can't believe that the Cards took at least 2 of 3 though from the Sox at Fenway.
Quote from: AB™ on June 21, 2008, 06:30:24 pm
Cards take the first two. Guess the people on the Cards side lose. Oh well. Since I'm a Braves fan thsi doesn't affect me much. I still can't believe that the Cards took at least 2 of 3 though from the Sox at Fenway.
How do the people on the Cards side lose?
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 21, 2008, 06:41:52 pm
Quote from: AB™ on June 21, 2008, 06:30:24 pm
Cards take the first two. Guess the people on the Cards side lose. Oh well. Since I'm a Braves fan thsi doesn't affect me much. I still can't believe that the Cards took at least 2 of 3 though from the Sox at Fenway.
Haha. Typo. Meant to say they win. Even more evident now after they've taken the first two games.
How do the people on the Cards side lose?
A few thoughts:
1. Good Lord. We just lost to a dude named Mitchell Boggs. Handily. In our own ballpark.
2. I'm really glad I didn't see the game today. I worked till 6:00 so by the time I got home it was already over, although it was pretty much over in the 2nd inning.
3. Dice-k was pretty much awful today.
4. This has been quite embarassing losing not 1, but 2 games to St. Louis. I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time we've lost a series to a National League team since the summer of '04.
5. For the love of God, have some pride and win tomorrow. I don't want *insert future avatar* for a freaking month.
6. Not in my wildest dreams would I imagine St. Louis winning 2 in Boston. And I don't think any Cardinals fan can realistically say they thought they would either. How do you get swept at home by KC, then win 2 in Boston? Unreal. La Russa must've made a deal with the devil.
7. I really hate the Cardinals and while we're at it, the NL.
8. Who knows, maybe we'll see the Cardinals again in October. On second thought, I don't know if they can hold up their end of the bargain. Heh.
How great would it be if Joel Piniero closed out the sweep with a victory over the team that gave up on him? ;)
Quote from: jbell96 on June 22, 2008, 04:50:37 am
How great would it be if Joel Piniero closed out the sweep with a victory over the team that gave up on him? ;)
We let him go because he absolutely sucked. He couldn't even handle a long relief role. He then goes to the NL and pitches pretty well, but it's really not all that surprising. It's definitely an easier league to pitch in. No DH, weaker lineups, etc.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 22, 2008, 10:57:38 am
Quote from: jbell96 on June 22, 2008, 04:50:37 am
How great would it be if Joel Piniero closed out the sweep with a victory over the team that gave up on him? ;)
We let him go because he absolutely sucked. He couldn't even handle a long relief role. He then goes to the NL and pitches pretty well, but it's really not all that surprising. It's definitely an easier league to pitch in. No DH, weaker lineups, etc.
Dave Duncan?
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 21, 2008, 09:08:51 pm
6. Not in my wildest dreams would I imagine St. Louis winning 2 in Boston. And I don't think any Cardinals fan can realistically say they thought they would either. How do you get swept at home by KC, then win 2 in Boston? Unreal. La Russa must've made a deal with the devil.
He quit hitting the sauce for a series probably.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 21, 2008, 09:08:51 pm
7. I really hate the Cardinals and while we're at it, the NL.
So you side with Hank in that the NL should join the modern era of baseball?
The Twins were a few games under .500 last week and I believe 7.5 games out of first behind CWS. Now they are on a 5 game winning streak and up 5-3 in the 9th against Arizona. If they win this that will be 6 straight wins and 8-2 in the last 10 games. If the Cubs win again tonight the Twins will only be 1.5 games out of first with a series against the Padres coming up. They have been up and down all year. Hopefully they can keep this going though.
Griffey hit No. 601 today, a solo shot in the 8th. 1 run couldn't do it as the Reds left 20, yes 20, men on base in a 4-1 loss to the Yankees. Johnny Cueto and Andy Pettitte were on top of their game today. Pettitte didn't give up any runs while Cueto gave up just 1.
Sucks for Cueto.
Thank God for Youk hitting a 2 run bomb to give the Sox a 5-3 win in 13 innings.
Quote from: ASU Rugby on June 22, 2008, 12:10:17 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 22, 2008, 10:57:38 am
Quote from: jbell96 on June 22, 2008, 04:50:37 am
How great would it be if Joel Piniero closed out the sweep with a victory over the team that gave up on him? ;)
We let him go because he absolutely sucked. He couldn't even handle a long relief role. He then goes to the NL and pitches pretty well, but it's really not all that surprising. It's definitely an easier league to pitch in. No DH, weaker lineups, etc.
Dave Duncan?
There's no doubt Ducan is a great pitching coach, but so is John Farrell. The fact is the NL has weaker lineups, not to mention the pitcher's spot once every time through the lineup. The AL has some lineups that are stacked 1-9. Pineiro just couldn't cut it in the AL.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 22, 2008, 08:10:23 pm
Quote from: ASU Rugby on June 22, 2008, 12:10:17 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 22, 2008, 10:57:38 am
Quote from: jbell96 on June 22, 2008, 04:50:37 am
How great would it be if Joel Piniero closed out the sweep with a victory over the team that gave up on him? ;)
We let him go because he absolutely sucked. He couldn't even handle a long relief role. He then goes to the NL and pitches pretty well, but it's really not all that surprising. It's definitely an easier league to pitch in. No DH, weaker lineups, etc.
Dave Duncan?
There's no doubt Ducan is a great pitching coach, but so is John Farrell. The fact is the NL has weaker lineups, not to mention the pitcher's spot once every time through the lineup. The AL has some lineups that are stacked 1-9. Pineiro just couldn't cut it in the AL.
I absolutely love the NL style of play, but I don't care DH or no DH, they just need to get on the same page in the leagues. Either have it or don't!!!
Quote from: RHS on June 22, 2008, 01:17:21 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 21, 2008, 09:08:51 pm
7. I really hate the Cardinals and while we're at it, the NL.
So you side with Hank in that the NL should join the modern era of baseball?
For once I agree with that d-bag. I'd be all for the NL implementing the DH, although there is no way it will ever happen. I think it would be more exciting for the game in general seeing a DH hit a homer than a pitcher popping up another failed bunt attempt. But that's just me.
Where's my avatar, Weston?
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 22, 2008, 08:16:58 pm
Quote from: RHS on June 22, 2008, 01:17:21 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 21, 2008, 09:08:51 pm
7. I really hate the Cardinals and while we're at it, the NL.
So you side with Hank in that the NL should join the modern era of baseball?
For once I agree with that d-bag. I'd be all for the NL implementing the DH, although there is no way it will ever happen. I think it would be more exciting for the game in general seeing a DH hit a homer than a pitcher popping up another failed bunt attempt. But that's just me.
Yet, pitchers are baseball players too. They should play the game like every other position player does.
Oh, and batters should have to play the field also.
But, as I said, I just want the two leagues to be the same, with or without the DH.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 22, 2008, 08:17:43 pm
Where's my avatar, Weston?
You were really, really close to a month with that thing.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 22, 2008, 08:16:58 pm
Quote from: RHS on June 22, 2008, 01:17:21 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 21, 2008, 09:08:51 pm
7. I really hate the Cardinals and while we're at it, the NL.
So you side with Hank in that the NL should join the modern era of baseball?
For once I agree with that d-bag. I'd be all for the NL implementing the DH, although there is no way it will ever happen. I think it would be more exciting for the game in general seeing a DH hit a homer than a pitcher popping up another failed bunt attempt. But that's just me.
Its not real baseball.
How sweet for Joel to come back and nearly dominate Boston. Too bad the bullpen couldn't hold on. Josh you almost had it for a month. :)
Doesn't RHS have to get one as well? Do I need to dig in this thread to find it? If so I call getting to chose it and the saying.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on June 22, 2008, 08:33:42 pm
How sweet for Joel to come back and nearly dominate Boston. Too bad the bullpen couldn't hold on. Josh you almost had it for a month. :)
Doesn't RHS have to get one as well? Do I need to dig in this thread to find it? If so I call getting to chose it and the saying.
Me, Kirk, and Justin do.
Bad times.
At least it wasn't for a month like the bet some of yall lost after we won the WS. I was sweating it out man.
(http://www.sportslogos.net/images/logos/54/72/full/2281.gif)
"Tradition Boston wishes they had"
Ohhhhhhhh Kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirk
That nice big red X will look awesome.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 22, 2008, 09:52:50 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on June 22, 2008, 08:33:42 pm
How sweet for Joel to come back and nearly dominate Boston. Too bad the bullpen couldn't hold on. Josh you almost had it for a month. :)
Doesn't RHS have to get one as well? Do I need to dig in this thread to find it? If so I call getting to chose it and the saying.
Me, Kirk, and Justin do.
Bad times.
At least it wasn't for a month like the bet some of yall lost after we won the WS. I was sweating it out man.
I don't know how I missed out on that bet, but I'm glad I did.
Josh you just let me know if Weston doesn't get you and avatar...I'm fairly certain we can come up with something for ya!! This shall not be forgotten!
Quote from: RHS on June 23, 2008, 02:07:52 am
That nice big red X will look awesome.
Don't know what happened to it. But I'm glad you got the picture. :)
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 23, 2008, 03:19:11 pm
Josh you just let me know if Weston doesn't get you and avatar...I'm fairly certain we can come up with something for ya!! This shall not be forgotten!
Oh I know it won't be forgotten. Beating the Red Sox is something you'll be able to tell your grandchildren about. :D
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Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 23, 2008, 03:19:11 pm
Josh you just let me know if Weston doesn't get you and avatar...I'm fairly certain we can come up with something for ya!! This shall not be forgotten!
Oh I know it won't be forgotten. Beating the Red Sox is something you'll be able to tell your grandchildren about. :D
Isn't the first time we beat them and I'm certain it won't be the last so I'm not to overly excited about making sure to remember the dates :P ...only thing worth bragging about this time is how we beat them with a pieced together half functioning team due to injuries and ailments. Now that's something you'll be able to tell your grandchildren. ;) "Yes sonny it's true...we lost to a pieced together, in a slump, injury plagued NATIONAL LEAGUE team...we just thought we were God's gift to baseball...now be a good little boy and run along and fetch me my slippers!"
Just to show that lightning does strike: Mariners Felix Hernandez hit a grand slam last night--against Johan Santana, no less. First GS by an AL pitcher since 1971.
And I don't know if this got mentioned but C.C. Sabathia absolutely unloaded one last week, a 440-foot shot.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 24, 2008, 03:08:41 am
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 23, 2008, 03:19:11 pm
Josh you just let me know if Weston doesn't get you and avatar...I'm fairly certain we can come up with something for ya!! This shall not be forgotten!
Oh I know it won't be forgotten. Beating the Red Sox is something you'll be able to tell your grandchildren about. :D
You still not got your avatar?
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Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 24, 2008, 03:08:41 am
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 23, 2008, 03:19:11 pm
Josh you just let me know if Weston doesn't get you and avatar...I'm fairly certain we can come up with something for ya!! This shall not be forgotten!
Oh I know it won't be forgotten. Beating the Red Sox is something you'll be able to tell your grandchildren about. :D
You still not got your avatar?
It doesn't appear he does...I told him I was positive between me and you we could come up with a dandy of one for him...He's not getting out of this one!
I'm waiting...
One of yall get the avatar up for me.
Who started Arroyo tonight?
Unfortunately Cincinnati did. Gosh, 11 hits in 1 IP and 10 ER. Our whole pitching staff got smashed tonight. Ever since 2006, he has really fallen off and has been very inconsistent. Now, more along the lines of what you were really asking QF, that would be whoever has the name "yankees world champs" in our FF fantasy league.
Quote from: Ken Griffey Jr. on June 24, 2008, 10:23:09 pm
Unfortunately Cincinnati did. Gosh, 11 hits in 1 IP and 10 ER. Our whole pitching staff got smashed tonight. Ever since 2006, he has really fallen off and has been very inconsistent. Now, more along the lines of what you were really asking QF, that would be whoever has the name "yankees world champs" in our FF fantasy league.
yankees world champs hasn't checked his roster ONCE and is somehow not in dead last.
For the record, I have no computer at the moment. If it weren't for St. Louis continuing it's dominance of Boston in interleague play, I'd probably be angrier than I actually am. Hopefully, I can get it fixed in the upcoming week.
As for telling my grandchildren about St. Louis taking the series from Boston, why would I have to do that? They've owned them in interleague play. The record books speak for themselves.
As for my avatar of choice, I believe it was the guy who ridiculed the notion of 'Red Sox Nation' with the fact he believed it was a 'Yankees Universe.'
(http://www.survivinggrady.com/uploaded_images/t1_hank_steinbrenner-777465.jpg)
My avatar (and phrase) is now up.
Weston, you are a sick, sick human being. Let the countdown begin.
I'm counting my blessings that the Sox won that final game to avoid the sweep. I could not stomach a month of Hank.
Dear God,
Please let Izzy retire soon.
Cordially,
jbell96
Thanks to Aaron Miles, Izzy is in line for the win after he blew the lead in the previous inning
Quote from: jbell96 on June 25, 2008, 11:35:17 pm
Dear God,
Please let Izzy retire soon.
Cordially,
jbell96
Thanks to Aaron Miles, Izzy is in line for the win after he blew the lead in the previous inning
We could really use Flores right now..........
Why not call up Todd?
Quote from: AB™ on June 26, 2008, 12:25:32 am
Why not call up Todd?
Way to early. Plus Todd just had his worst outing in AA giving up 6 in 3 or 4 innings.
Jess will likely need a year or two more in the minors before he is ready for the show. I really hate that we lost tonight. Our bullpen seems to be wearing down a little bit. I hope it's not a sign of things to come.
I think Todd will end the year in AAA, but he's not ready for the Show right now.
Quote from: AB™ on June 26, 2008, 12:25:32 am
Why not call up Todd?
AB...weren't you in on this whole bet? I believe Josh's avatar and sig will work just fine for the both of you!
The Twins are on an 8 game winning streak and are 9-1 in their last 10 games.
Quote from: AB™ on June 17, 2008, 12:10:02 am
If you want another Red Sox person in on this I'm in. They aren't "my team" but they are my favorite AL team and most of you all know I don't like the Cards.
Someone pick out an avator and phrase for AB.
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 26, 2008, 06:48:04 am
Quote from: AB™ on June 26, 2008, 12:25:32 am
Why not call up Todd?
AB...weren't you in on this whole bet? I believe Josh's avatar and sig will work just fine for the both of you!
Yeah, but me being a Braves fan the Hank Steinbrenner avatar isn't going to bug me really at all. ;)
Quote from: AB™ on June 26, 2008, 12:36:48 pm
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 26, 2008, 06:48:04 am
Quote from: AB™ on June 26, 2008, 12:25:32 am
Why not call up Todd?
AB...weren't you in on this whole bet? I believe Josh's avatar and sig will work just fine for the both of you!
Yeah, but me being a Braves fan the Hank Steinbrenner avatar isn't going to bug me really at all. ;)
True dat true dat! This will have to work!!
(http://www.talkpa.net/gallery/images/1/1_Phillies-Logo.gif)
Braves...getting pwned by Chase Utley one game at a time!
Yes I know...it's not the best I could do but I'm at work so it'll have to work.
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 26, 2008, 12:57:47 pm
Quote from: AB™ on June 26, 2008, 12:36:48 pm
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 26, 2008, 06:48:04 am
Quote from: AB™ on June 26, 2008, 12:25:32 am
Why not call up Todd?
AB...weren't you in on this whole bet? I believe Josh's avatar and sig will work just fine for the both of you!
Yeah, but me being a Braves fan the Hank Steinbrenner avatar isn't going to bug me really at all. ;)
True dat true dat! This will have to work!!
Yes I know...it's not the best I could do but I'm at work so it'll have to work.
You should have given him like a dook avator and a phrase of "Coach K is the greatest coach ever." Or something along those lines.
Quote from: RHS on June 26, 2008, 01:06:33 pm
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 26, 2008, 12:57:47 pm
Quote from: AB™ on June 26, 2008, 12:36:48 pm
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 26, 2008, 06:48:04 am
Quote from: AB™ on June 26, 2008, 12:25:32 am
Why not call up Todd?
AB...weren't you in on this whole bet? I believe Josh's avatar and sig will work just fine for the both of you!
Yeah, but me being a Braves fan the Hank Steinbrenner avatar isn't going to bug me really at all. ;)
True dat true dat! This will have to work!!
Yes I know...it's not the best I could do but I'm at work so it'll have to work.
You should have given him like a dook avator and a phrase of "Coach K is the greatest coach ever." Or something along those lines.
Great idea
Quote from: RHS on June 26, 2008, 01:06:33 pm
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 26, 2008, 12:57:47 pm
Quote from: AB™ on June 26, 2008, 12:36:48 pm
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 26, 2008, 06:48:04 am
Quote from: AB™ on June 26, 2008, 12:25:32 am
Why not call up Todd?
AB...weren't you in on this whole bet? I believe Josh's avatar and sig will work just fine for the both of you!
Yeah, but me being a Braves fan the Hank Steinbrenner avatar isn't going to bug me really at all. ;)
True dat true dat! This will have to work!!
Yes I know...it's not the best I could do but I'm at work so it'll have to work.
You should have given him like a dook avator and a phrase of "Coach K is the greatest coach ever." Or something along those lines.
Ooooooo...ya know...I didn't think outside the baseball lines...thats a pretty nice one right there. AB...you can blame this one on a little birdie named Kirk! ;D I was thinking along the baseball lines...but this one is soooo much better! 7 days buddy...7 full days!!
(http://www.nexternal.com/bigtop/images/96039.jpg)
Coach K is the greatest coach EVER!!!
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 26, 2008, 01:37:10 pmOoooooo...ya know...I didn't think outside the baseball lines...thats a pretty nice one right there.
You just gotta figure out what everyone hates the most and commit it to memory.
Quote from: RHS on June 26, 2008, 03:09:07 pm
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 26, 2008, 01:37:10 pmOoooooo...ya know...I didn't think outside the baseball lines...thats a pretty nice one right there.
You just gotta figure out what everyone hates the most and commit it to memory.
Oh it's not exactly secret that he hates them...like I said...I was pretty much strictly thinking of something a Braves fan would hate since it was a baseball bet! But I wouldn't have thought of that so kudos on making it just that much worse for him haha!
Quote from: RHS on June 26, 2008, 01:06:33 pm
You should have given him like a dook avator and a phrase of "Coach K is the greatest coach ever." Or something along those lines.
That is harsh. But then again, so are all our avatars.
Twins win 9th straight...
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 26, 2008, 03:35:05 pm
Quote from: RHS on June 26, 2008, 03:09:07 pm
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 26, 2008, 01:37:10 pmOoooooo...ya know...I didn't think outside the baseball lines...thats a pretty nice one right there.
You just gotta figure out what everyone hates the most and commit it to memory.
Oh it's not exactly secret that he hates them...like I said...I was pretty much strictly thinking of something a Braves fan would hate since it was a baseball bet! But I wouldn't have thought of that so kudos on making it just that much worse for him haha!
Phillies aren't bad, but if you were going to strike a nerve with a NL East division rival the Mets would have been much better. I HATE THEM. But not as much as dook. Good one Kirk.
Quote from: AB™ on June 27, 2008, 12:48:11 am
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 26, 2008, 03:35:05 pm
Quote from: RHS on June 26, 2008, 03:09:07 pm
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 26, 2008, 01:37:10 pmOoooooo...ya know...I didn't think outside the baseball lines...thats a pretty nice one right there.
You just gotta figure out what everyone hates the most and commit it to memory.
Oh it's not exactly secret that he hates them...like I said...I was pretty much strictly thinking of something a Braves fan would hate since it was a baseball bet! But I wouldn't have thought of that so kudos on making it just that much worse for him haha!
Phillies aren't bad, but if you were going to strike a nerve with a NL East division rival the Mets would have been much better. I HATE THEM. But not as much as dook. Good one Kirk.
Ehh I was debating between the mets and the phillies actually...don't know why I leaned towards the phillies instead though. I knew there was a rivalry with both so I just picked one. Enjoy your dook though!
I'd have to say AB has the worst end of this deal. Not by much, but it's the worst one to have.
I'm still contemplating any way out of this avatar deal for any other deal. I can't stand seeing that dook POS logo and the blasphemous words of "coach k is the best coach ever" under it. It is actually making me avoid getting on Fearless during the last day that I have regular internet usage for the next six weeks.
Twins come from behind down 3 runs to continue their streak. They are one of the hottest teams in baseball right now. They have won 10 straight, 13 of their last 15. Two weeks ago they were 5 or 6 games below .500 and now they are 44-36.
Looks good JB :)
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on June 28, 2008, 12:39:46 am
Twins come from behind down 3 runs to continue their streak. They are one of the hottest teams in baseball right now. They have won 10 straight, 13 of their last 15. Two weeks ago they were 5 or 6 games below .500 and now they are 44-36.
I'll be in Boston to see the Sox and Twins on July 8th. Can't wait. :)
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 24, 2008, 09:28:28 amNATIONAL LEAGUE
Hey Stacey, since you brought up the NL... The AL has p3wned them for the 4,274th straight time in interleague play once again.
AL = 135 wins
NL = 88 wins
Har har har.
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Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on June 28, 2008, 12:39:46 am
Twins come from behind down 3 runs to continue their streak. They are one of the hottest teams in baseball right now. They have won 10 straight, 13 of their last 15. Two weeks ago they were 5 or 6 games below .500 and now they are 44-36.
I'll be in Boston to see the Sox and Twins on July 8th. Can't wait. :)
I hope you have a good trip, but I hope that is the worst day of your trip. :) It will still be fun to see them play though, even if we demolish the Sox.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on June 28, 2008, 07:27:51 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 28, 2008, 06:27:15 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on June 28, 2008, 12:39:46 am
Twins come from behind down 3 runs to continue their streak. They are one of the hottest teams in baseball right now. They have won 10 straight, 13 of their last 15. Two weeks ago they were 5 or 6 games below .500 and now they are 44-36.
I'll be in Boston to see the Sox and Twins on July 8th. Can't wait. :)
I hope you have a good trip, but I hope that is the worst day of your trip. :) It will still be fun to see them play though, even if we demolish the Sox.
Of course you do and that's understandable. I'm very curious about the pitching matchups, although we won't find out who's starting for each team until later in the week.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on June 28, 2008, 06:34:48 pm
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on June 24, 2008, 09:28:28 amNATIONAL LEAGUE
Hey Stacey, since you brought up the NL... The AL has p3wned them for the 4,274th straight time in interleague play once again.
AL = 135 wins
NL = 88 wins
Har har har.
The only stat I care about involving interleague play is
St. Louis 2
Boston 1
That one still burns me up. No way we should've let that happen, but it's over now.
Anyway, the Rays are leading the Red Sox 4-2 in the 7th. James Shields pitched a very good game. If the Rays hold on that will give them a 1 1/2 game lead on the Sox in the AL East. They aren't going away anytime soon.
Griffey hit a 2-run walkoff bomb to beat the Pirates tonight 4-3. Harang actually looked good for once, giving up 3 ER and striking out 8 in 7 innings of work.
Quote from: Ken Griffey Jr. on June 30, 2008, 09:48:44 pm
Griffey hit a 2-run walkoff bomb to beat the Pirates tonight 4-3. Harang actually looked good for once, giving up 3 ER and striking out 8 in 7 innings of work.
That really p!ssed me off. It has nothing to do with the Reds - I'm just sick of seeing Paul Maholm's wins go right down the freaking drain. He's a Mississippi State guy so I want to see him do well. He has pitched really well recently (hasn't lost in over a month) but when he exits a game with a lead in line for the win, the Pittsburg bullpen blows it more times than not. It's getting ridiculous. There is no way he should only be 5-5 right now.
How about the Rays Sweeping the Red Sox this week.
Quote from: atownpantherfan05™ on July 03, 2008, 01:43:02 pm
How about the Rays Sweeping the Red Sox this week.
The Rays sweeping the Red Sox is nothing more than fantastic.
Here's one hoping the Rays hang on and win the AL East, simply because it could mean the Yankees and/or Red Sox (depending on the wild-card race) will be out of the playoffs. That means some heads will roll in the off-season, for sure!
Quote from: atownpantherfan05™ on July 03, 2008, 01:43:02 pm
How about the Rays Sweeping the Red Sox this week.
Nothing shy of freaking fantastic!! Thoroughly enjoyed it!
The Twins have won 16 of their last 20. They have won 6 straight series. They are currently up 2-0 in the 2nd on the Indians with no outs and a runner on 2nd.
Yankees lost again today, 6-4, to the Sox. I liked this little snippet from the game review.
QuoteBoston (52-37) got out of a bases-loaded, one-out jam in the seventh when Bobby Abreu popped out against Hideki Okajima and Rodriguez hit into a forceout against Manny Delcarmen.
Nice to see A-Rod still doing good in those pressure situations.
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on July 04, 2008, 10:11:42 am
Quote from: atownpantherfan05™ on July 03, 2008, 01:43:02 pm
How about the Rays Sweeping the Red Sox this week.
Nothing shy of freaking fantastic!! Thoroughly enjoyed it!
When the Cardinals flame out later in the season and the Sox are rolling along, yall can get back to me.
Anyway, Jon Lester p3wned the Yankees last night. He threw a CG shutout with 8 K's. Amazing.
Today the Yankees jumped out to a 3-0 lead in the 1st, but Josh Beckett came back and shut them down the rest of the way and we came back to win 6-4. Very exciting game. New York falls to 45-42 and 4th place in the AL East. Suck it, motherless ones.
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on July 04, 2008, 10:11:42 am
Nothing shy of freaking fantastic!! Thoroughly enjoyed it!
Cubs win! Cubs win! Cubs win!
2-1 :)
Cards won tonight though bud.
Twins win 9-6 to improve their win streak to 5. They were on a 10 game win streak a week ago.
CC on the move
Milwaukee bound.
Cubs pounded St Louis today.
Quote from: RHS on July 06, 2008, 10:09:20 pm
Cubs pounded St Louis today.
They had to have last-inning heroics to avoid a sweep.
Quote from: QF© on July 06, 2008, 10:07:17 pm
CC on the move
Milwaukee bound.
The Brew Crew is suddenly really scary with Sheets/Sabathia as their 1-2 guys. The NL is pretty much wide open at this point so I think this is a good move for Milwaukee.
You know they won't resign Sheets AND Sabathia, but the question is can they get one of them to stay? Even if they don't they are going to get a ton of draft picks so it works out either way.
Actually the big question in Milwaukee is if Sheets will stay healthy the rest of the year. He has a tendency of getting hurt at inopportune times.
The Cards will be alright after the break when they'll get Wainwright & Carpenter back.
The Twins win their 7th straight series with a sweep of Cleveland today. I would say we are the hottest team in baseball right now.
The Twins just left the bases loaded in the top of the 8th against Boston. I want us to win this game pretty bad considering Josh is there. :)
We blew a chance to do a lot of damage and probably would have sealed the win had we been able to push one across the plate. It is 0-0 in the 8th.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on July 07, 2008, 08:32:51 pm
The Twins just left the bases loaded in the top of the 8th against Boston. I want us to win this game pretty bad considering Josh is there. :)
We blew a chance to do a lot of damage and probably would have sealed the win had we been able to push one across the plate. It is 0-0 in the 8th.
I texted him last night, and he said he was going to be at tommorrow night's game.
Still, I'm hoping the Twins ruin his evening. :D
Quote from: Infamous on July 07, 2008, 08:51:13 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on July 07, 2008, 08:32:51 pm
The Twins just left the bases loaded in the top of the 8th against Boston. I want us to win this game pretty bad considering Josh is there. :)
We blew a chance to do a lot of damage and probably would have sealed the win had we been able to push one across the plate. It is 0-0 in the 8th.
I texted him last night, and he said he was going to be at tommorrow night's game.
Still, I'm hoping the Twins ruin his evening. :D
Yea, I just saw his post at the top saying the 8th, not the 9th. Good thing they got their win out of the way tonight. Hopefully they win tomorrow. We are probably the hottest team in baseball. I know we will win at least one game, if not both of the remaining games.
Dice K has been pitching very well the last two games he's been in. Good job by Baker tonight as well. If one likes pitcher's duels, then that was a good one tonight.
Quote from: Infamous on July 07, 2008, 08:51:13 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on July 07, 2008, 08:32:51 pm
The Twins just left the bases loaded in the top of the 8th against Boston. I want us to win this game pretty bad considering Josh is there. :)
I texted him last night, and he said he was going to be at tommorrow night's game.
Still, I'm hoping the Twins ruin his evening. :D
Ha! Sox win 1-0. ;D
Dice came up huge and Okajima bailed us out big time in the 8th getting Monroe to pop out and Span to ground out with the bases loaded.
Pedroia continued to mash the ball extending his hitting streak to 15 with the double in the 8th. Nice to see Manny get 2 hits considering he's been struggling lately.
And yes, I'll be there tomorrow night. Jon Lester is pitching. The only other Red Sox game I've been to was in Chicago in '06 and we saw him pitch that night against the White Sox and we'll see him tomorrow night too. I'm giddy to get finally get to Fenway. Ohhh boy.
The Brewers might start getting a little scary with Sabathia.
The Cubs just dove into the trading waters.
They get pitchers Rich Harden and Chad Gaudin from Oakland in exchange for pitcher Sean Gallagher, outfielders Matt Murton and Eric Patterson and minor-leaguer John Donaldson.
From the "Wondering if he still remembers department" ...
Philly reliever Brad Lidge intentionally walks Albert Pujols with one out and a runner on third in the bottom of the ninth. One can imagine the flashbacks before the manager signal for four wide ones.
Safe to say the best three teams in the NL are all in the same division.
The Brewers & Cubs made their moves, so the Cards need to do something before the deadline. However, I think we need a bat instead of an arm, since we're getting Wainwright & Carp back after the break.
Nice win over the Phillies tonight.
I'm willing to bet Josh had a blast with the comeback the Sox had tonight.
Quote from: jbell96 on July 08, 2008, 10:54:59 pmI'm willing to bet Josh had a blast with the comeback the Sox had tonight.
Bet he did. The one Sox game I went to ended in a walk off bomb for Boston. The stadium was still going nuts 10-15 minutes after the game was over.
Quote from: jbell96 on July 08, 2008, 10:54:59 pmI'm willing to bet Josh had a blast with the comeback the Sox had tonight.
Had the greatest time of my life man. That was a PHENOMENAL game tonight at Fenway and one of the best games all season long. I was just lucky enough to be in attendance.
The Sox were dead going into the bottom of the 8th down 5-2 - we hadn't done crap all night. Ellsbury led off with a double and 2 batters later Drew drove him in to make it 5-3. Manny comes up... the entire ballpark is going NUTS chanting "Manny. Manny. Manny." I got chills. Manny then proceeds to hit a 2 run BOMB over the green monster to tie the game 5-5. Fenway flat out EXPLODED and I was high-fiving and hugging random people in the stands, oh it was great. A few batters later Brandon Moss slapped a single up the middle and drove in Youk to give the Sox the 6-5 lead going into the 9th. Pandemonium.
Papelbon came in for the 9th and I was ecstatic to see him pitch live. It was pretty nervewracking though, as Minnesota had a runner on 3rd with just 1 out. Pap struck out Jason Kubel and then got Alexi Casilla to ground out to the end game. Red Sox win 6-5. You couldn't have scripted a more thrilling game.
Fenway really puts all other major league ballparks to shame. It's really hard to describe unless you've been there. Even though we don't have tickets, me and my dad are planning on going back and trying to buy some and go to tomorrow's game too. It's a 1:05 (Eastern) start time and we're going to the ticket office to wait in line early tomorrow morning. Hope it works out because I would LOVE to see another game at Fenway. Wow.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 08, 2008, 11:44:50 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on July 08, 2008, 10:54:59 pmI'm willing to bet Josh had a blast with the comeback the Sox had tonight.
A few batters later Brandon Moss slapped a single up the middle and drove in Manny to give the Sox the 6-5 lead going into the 9th. Pandemonium.
Hey Josh, how did he drive in Manny if Manny hit a homer? ;)
Quote from: jbell96 on July 09, 2008, 01:04:03 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 08, 2008, 11:44:50 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on July 08, 2008, 10:54:59 pmI'm willing to bet Josh had a blast with the comeback the Sox had tonight.
A few batters later Brandon Moss slapped a single up the middle and drove in Manny to give the Sox the 6-5 lead going into the 9th. Pandemonium.
Hey Josh, how did he drive in Manny if Manny hit a homer? ;)
Haha, typo. That would be Youk. ;D
We're gonna head up to the ticket office in about an hour and wait in line in hopes of being able to buy some for this afternoon's game. What they do is withhold some tickets for each game, then sell them the day of the game so there is a chance we could find some today. I'm not really counting on it, but it would be nice.
Where's ole Jeff at? Doesn't he realize the Twins are on the verge of being swept? ;) But that really was a huge win last night. Minnesota was only 1 1/2 games back of us in the Wild Card race, now we've increased the lead to 2 1/2.
An updated look at the current standings, as of 8 July:
AL EAST
Tampa Bay: 55-34 (Best record in the league)
Boston: 54-39 (3 GB)
New York: 48-42 (7.5)
Baltimore: 44-44 (10.5)
Toronto: 43-47 (12.5)
AL CENTRAL
Chicago: 52-37
Minnesota: 50-40 (2.5)
Detroit: 45-44 (7)
Kansas City: 40-51 (13)
Cleveland: 37-52 (15)
AL WEST
Los Angeles/Anaheim: 54-36
Oakland: 49-41 (5)
Texas: 47-44 (7.5)
Seattle: 35-55 (19)
NL EAST
Philadelphia: 48-43
Florida: 46-44 (1.5)
New York: 46-44 (1.5)
Atlanta: 43-48 (5)
Washington: 34-57 (14) (Worst record in the league)
NL CENTRAL
Chicago: 54-36
St. Louis: 51-40 (3.5)
Milwaukee: 50-40 (4)
Cincinnati: 43-48 (11.5)
Pittsburgh: 42-47 (11.5)
Houston: 41-50 (13.5)
NL WEST
Arizona: 45-45
Los Angeles: 44-46 (1)
San Francisco: 39-51 (6)
Colorado: 38-53 (7.5)
San Diego: 36-55 (9.5)
I so enjoy seeing Houston wallow in last. I don't know why but I hate the Astros. Nice to see the Braves in 4th, even if they are only 5 back.
For some reason I think the Tigers are poised for a run in the AL Central, I don't see the White Sox being able to keep up their current pace. I think it actually will come down to the Tigers and the Twins.
Just going on a limb
NL East - Mets (as bad as they have seemed, they are 1.5 GB, that is NOT good for Philly)
NL Central - Cubs
NL West - Dodgers
NL WC - Brewers
AL East - Red Sox
AL Central - Tigers
AL West - Angels
AL WC - Rays
It shows how good the NL Central is this year compared to the rest of the NL, the Reds and Pirates are both only 5 games under .500 and they are 11.5 games back. They would only be 2.5 GB in the West and only 5 GB in the East.
Quote from: SMC on July 09, 2008, 12:04:15 pm
I so enjoy seeing Houston wallow in last. I don't know why but I hate the Astros. Nice to see the Braves in 4th, even if they are only 5 back.
Both of these are sort of funny. First of course the Braves comment which I can repect. But the one about the Astros led to thread and post deletions when a certain someone else said they 'hated the Astros" as well. :)
Quote from: QF© on July 09, 2008, 12:19:45 pm
Quote from: SMC on July 09, 2008, 12:04:15 pm
I so enjoy seeing Houston wallow in last. I don't know why but I hate the Astros. Nice to see the Braves in 4th, even if they are only 5 back.
Both of these are sort of funny. First of course the Braves comment which I can repect. But the one about the Astros led to thread and post deletions when a certain someone else said they 'hated the Astros" as well. :)
It's all in the forum of which it is being discussed.
Oh, and Josh got 2 tickets for game today (which is in progress).
Quote from: RHS on July 09, 2008, 02:47:10 pm
It's all in the forum of which it is being discussed.
Oh, and Josh got 2 tickets for game today (which is in progress).
::)
And it looks like another good one for him to see.
I guess I spoke too soon. I really thought we would win one of the games in this series. We had a big chance in the 8th of the first game tied 0-0 with 1 out and the bases loaded and we blew it. We let the Sox come back and win in the last game, and now we are getting killed in game three. I knew our streak had to end at some point, but I didn't think we would lose 3 straight.
Quote from: RHS on July 09, 2008, 02:47:10 pmOh, and Josh got 2 tickets for game today (which is in progress).
What a great freaking time at Fenway (again). Boston absolutely destroyed Minnesota today 18-5. The Sox pounded out 23 hits, only 2 of which were homers. This morning we got 2 tickets in the CF bleachers which is a great view of the park. The Twins jumped out to an early 3-0 lead in the 1st but the Sox came back and actually led 7-5 in the 6th before busting it open with a 7 run inning. Early in that inning Ron Gardenhire got ejected which was pretty funny.
The past 2 days I've gotten to see Manny and Youk go deep over the Monstah, Jon Papelbon get a save, the Sox score 18 runs on 23 hits, Josh Beckett and Jon Lester pitch, and a fight in the bleachers. Yes.
And I can't begin to describe how cool it is to be around your own fans for a change, rather than back home where I'm stuck around the Cardinals. :)
Everyone watch the Cardinals quick!!!
Pujols v. Lidge with a chance to tie
Mulder lasted a 1/3 of an inning before leaving with an injury. I think it's time to take him out behind the barn and put him down. He is done.
Quote from: jbell96 on July 09, 2008, 10:54:58 pm
Mulder lasted a 1/3 of an inning before leaving with an injury. I think it's time to take him out behind the barn and put him down. He is done.
That's why Beane didn't hesitate to pull the trigger on the deal that landed Oakland Haren. He knew that Mulder's best years were behind him.
It's the same reason why I don't think Harden will do anything for the Cubs. When Beane is willing to part with pitchers that quickly, that should send a red flag to the other general managers.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 09, 2008, 08:10:05 pm
Quote from: RHS on July 09, 2008, 02:47:10 pmOh, and Josh got 2 tickets for game today (which is in progress).
What a great freaking time at Fenway (again). Boston absolutely destroyed Minnesota today 18-5. The Sox pounded out 23 hits, only 2 of which were homers. This morning we got 2 tickets in the CF bleachers which is a great view of the park. The Twins jumped out to an early 3-0 lead in the 1st but the Sox came back and actually led 7-5 in the 6th before busting it open with a 7 run inning. Early in that inning Ron Gardenhire got ejected which was pretty funny.
The past 2 days I've gotten to see Manny and Youk go deep over the Monstah, Jon Papelbon get a save, the Sox score 18 runs on 23 hits, Josh Beckett and Jon Lester pitch, and a fight in the bleachers. Yes.
And I can't begin to describe how cool it is to be around your own fans for a change, rather than back home where I'm stuck around the Cardinals. :)
May have been a different game, or at least a closer one had they not reversed that triple play. :(
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on July 09, 2008, 11:06:12 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 09, 2008, 08:10:05 pm
Quote from: RHS on July 09, 2008, 02:47:10 pmOh, and Josh got 2 tickets for game today (which is in progress).
What a great freaking time at Fenway (again). Boston absolutely destroyed Minnesota today 18-5. The Sox pounded out 23 hits, only 2 of which were homers. This morning we got 2 tickets in the CF bleachers which is a great view of the park. The Twins jumped out to an early 3-0 lead in the 1st but the Sox came back and actually led 7-5 in the 6th before busting it open with a 7 run inning. Early in that inning Ron Gardenhire got ejected which was pretty funny.
The past 2 days I've gotten to see Manny and Youk go deep over the Monstah, Jon Papelbon get a save, the Sox score 18 runs on 23 hits, Josh Beckett and Jon Lester pitch, and a fight in the bleachers. Yes.
And I can't begin to describe how cool it is to be around your own fans for a change, rather than back home where I'm stuck around the Cardinals. :)
May have been a different game, or at least a closer one had they not reversed that triple play. :(
Reversing it was the right call though.
Josh, glad you got to take in an extra game. If there was some way for you to go watch a game in yankee stadium, I would tell you to do it. May hate it, but it's something else to watch a game there, espicially since it will be gone after this season.
Quote from: RHS on July 10, 2008, 01:33:54 am
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on July 09, 2008, 11:06:12 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 09, 2008, 08:10:05 pm
Quote from: RHS on July 09, 2008, 02:47:10 pmOh, and Josh got 2 tickets for game today (which is in progress).
What a great freaking time at Fenway (again). Boston absolutely destroyed Minnesota today 18-5. The Sox pounded out 23 hits, only 2 of which were homers. This morning we got 2 tickets in the CF bleachers which is a great view of the park. The Twins jumped out to an early 3-0 lead in the 1st but the Sox came back and actually led 7-5 in the 6th before busting it open with a 7 run inning. Early in that inning Ron Gardenhire got ejected which was pretty funny.
The past 2 days I've gotten to see Manny and Youk go deep over the Monstah, Jon Papelbon get a save, the Sox score 18 runs on 23 hits, Josh Beckett and Jon Lester pitch, and a fight in the bleachers. Yes.
And I can't begin to describe how cool it is to be around your own fans for a change, rather than back home where I'm stuck around the Cardinals. :)
May have been a different game, or at least a closer one had they not reversed that triple play. :(
Reversing it was the right call though.
Josh, glad you got to take in an extra game. If there was some way for you to go watch a game in yankee stadium, I would tell you to do it. May hate it, but it's something else to watch a game there, espicially since it will be gone after this season.
I got to go to one with my Dad in 2003 when I lived in DC. It is a wonderful experience, and a sight to see, especially considering they lost to Seattle that day. :)
I got to watch them play the Braves (Braves won thankfully) and some yankee fan yell "Put im in the wood chippa" every time Chipper came up. Also got to listen to a few people yell "Hey Larry."
The Pirates beat the Yankees in a make up game tonight 4-2. Paul Maholm shut down New York and pitched 8 solid innings to get the win. Heckuva job. Maholm is one of the better pitchers most people haven't heard of.
For the 2nd time this year, the Reds hit 7 home runs against the Cubs. Encarnacion, Phillips, Griffey, Dunn, Ross(twice) and Votto all homered today. Cincinnati won 12-7.
Quote from: Infamous on July 09, 2008, 11:01:57 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on July 09, 2008, 10:54:58 pm
Mulder lasted a 1/3 of an inning before leaving with an injury. I think it's time to take him out behind the barn and put him down. He is done.
That's why Beane didn't hesitate to pull the trigger on the deal that landed Oakland Haren. He knew that Mulder's best years were behind him.
It's the same reason why I don't think Harden will do anything for the Cubs. When Beane is willing to part with pitchers that quickly, that should send a red flag to the other general managers.
That trade is why I worship Billy Beane. Haren, Calero and Daric Barton for a guy who is coming off hip problems and throws 91?! Billy is a genius although I would like to have the Huddy deal back. I hate pitchers but he is one of my all-time favorite A's.
By the way, my A's fleeced the Cubs with this deal. I hope the best for Rich but he won't make 8 starts the rest of the year. The stupid Cubs traded for a pitcher they didn't need who is HURT RIGHT NOW! Mark my words, Sean Gallagher will be very good for us.
Cardinals 6, Pirates 0
Ankiel: 3-3, HR, 1 BB, 3 RBI, 1 R (season: 20 HR, 49 RBI, 16 2B, 51 R, .269)
Lohse: 7 IP, 0 ER, 6 H, 3 K, 1 BB (season: 11-2, 3.39 ERA, 1.25 WHIP, 59 K, 29 BB)
Those two definitely don't deserve to be All-Stars.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on July 12, 2008, 11:26:51 amThose two definitely don't deserve to be All-Stars.
You obviously didn't vote enough Tobin.
I can hear a certain somebody screaming after this one:
Cards enter the bottom of the ninth with a 10-6 lead, but Isringhausen gives up a three-run homer and McClellan gives up another on a fielder's choice. Tied with the Pirates 10-10 going into extra innings.
While I'm disgusted with Isringhausen, the blame shouldn't be placed solely on his shoulders. The entire bullpen was terrible tonight.
lol @ Izzy.
(http://www.fmcsacompliance.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/gas_pump3.jpg)
Edinson Volquez had another double-digit strikeout night(10) and Dunn hit two home-runs as the Reds beat Milwaukee 8-2. Maybe we can go into the All-Star Break with a sweep, but its doubtful since we have Homer Bailey matched up against C.C. Sabathia tomorrow.
Ryan Ludwick showing why he deserves to be an All Star. He just jacked his 21st of the year to extend the Cards lead to 10-6. Hopefully the bullpen won't blow it tonight.
Quote from: jbell96 on July 13, 2008, 03:18:42 pm
Ryan Ludwick showing why he deserves to be an All Star. He just jacked his 21st of the year to extend the Cards lead to 10-6. Hopefully the bullpen won't blow it tonight.
I am in no way comfortable with a 10-6 lead.
Me neither, especially after last night.
Cards win 11-6. Should have been an easy sweep, but I'll take 2 out of 3. I'm sure our bullpen will enjoy the All Star break and the much needed three days of rest.
Quote from: jbell96 on July 13, 2008, 03:54:24 pm
Cards win 11-6. Should have been an easy sweep, but I'll take 2 out of 3. I'm sure our bullpen will enjoy the All Star break and the much needed three days of rest.
Their arms were almost dead
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c214/msubulldogs21/rays.jpg)
Yeah I'm free, FREE FALLIN'! (out of 1st) :D
You can add the entire Rays roster to the list of those grateful for the All Star break.
Time for some Cy Young predictions, or at least who would deserve it right now.
AL:
1. Cliff Lee: 12-2, 2.31 ERA, 106 K (5.3:1 K:BB) with a 1.03 WHIP.
2. Roy Halladay: 11-6, 2.71 ERA, 7 CG, 2 SHO, 121 K (5.76:1 ratio) with a 1.00 WHIP
3. Justin Duchscherer: 10-5, 1.82 ERA, 66 K (2.86:1 ratio) with a 0.87 WHIP and OBA .242
NL:
1. Edison Volquez: 12-3, 2.29 ERA, 126 K (2.25:1) with a 1.24 WHIP
2. Brandon Webb: 13-4, 3.23 ERA, 112 K (3.39:1) with a 1.16 WHIP
3. Tim Lincecum: 11-2, 2.57 ERA, 135 K (2.87:1)with a 1.25 WHIP
#3 on both of your lists should win it.
Don't know why I had Volquez 3rd. Meant to have him #1.
Disagree in the AL one though. I think Lee is going to end up with about 18-19 wins and his ERA and WHIP will probably stay close to what he has now. Duchscherer is a great pitcher and his stats are better in a lot of places, but I just like Lee.
Right now I'd go with Duchscherer and Lincecum. Can you imagine how some of these guys would be if they played on a team with a decent offense? Duchscherer, Lee, Lincecum, and Halladay all pitch for teams with terrible offenses.
I really like Halladay though. He's a true throwback.
Some of yall may have already heard, but Peter Gammons said the other day that the Red Sox turned down the Braves offer for Mark Teixeira. Atlanta wanted Kevin Youkilis and Craig Hansen.
Um, no thanks Atlanta.
I take it back. I totally forgot about someone not on the list. I would give it to Dan Haren over those other three in the NL.
Troy Glaus seems to be heating up. He's already got 2 homers off Jake Peavy tonight. Add that to Ankiel's 21st of the year and the Cards are up 3-2 in the 5th.
Quote from: jbell96 on July 17, 2008, 08:28:27 pm
Troy Glaus seems to be heating up. He's already got 2 homers off Jake Peavy tonight. Add that to Ankiel's 21st of the year and the Cards are up 3-2 in the 5th.
All of that happened during my nap. Perhaps I should lay back down? lol
Go back to sleep J-Lo. :)
Apparently the strike zone has vanished in the top of the 9th in St. Louis.
And Kyle Lohse just got his 12th win of the year.
I think we learned tonight that we need some bullpen help. There aren't any big name closers on the market, but we need to get someone. Still, it's nice to beat someone the caliber of Jake Peavy.
Quote from: jbell96 on July 17, 2008, 10:15:37 pm
I think we learned tonight that we need some bullpen help. There aren't any big name closers on the market, but we need to get someone. Still, it's nice to beat someone the caliber of Jake Peavy.
Last time we hit four homeruns and only scored four runs and won was against the Astros in 98 I think. Rick Ankiel was the starting pitcher for the Cardinals in that game.
I think it is safe to say that Braden Looper will be one of the starters that goes to the bullpen when Wainwright & Carpenter come back. How do you give up 6 runs in 3 innings to an offensively challenged team like the Padres. That said, Ryan flippin Ludwick does it again with a 3 run jack to tie the game up.
Quote from: jbell96 on July 18, 2008, 08:51:11 pm
I think it is safe to say that Braden Looper will be one of the starters that goes to the bullpen when Wainwright & Carpenter come back. How do you give up 6 runs in 3 innings to an offensively challenged team like the Padres. That said, Ryan flippin Ludwick does it again with a 3 run jack to tie the game up.
Zzzzz. ;D
If anyone is interested in watching some real baseball the 2 best teams in the American League will be going at it in a matter of about 10 minutes. John Lackey on the hill for LAA (probably a bad sign) and Clay Buchholz for Boston.
It'd be nice to pick up a big win on the road tonight over one of the best pitchers in baseball. Go Sox.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 18, 2008, 08:58:27 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on July 18, 2008, 08:51:11 pm
I think it is safe to say that Braden Looper will be one of the starters that goes to the bullpen when Wainwright & Carpenter come back. How do you give up 6 runs in 3 innings to an offensively challenged team like the Padres. That said, Ryan flippin Ludwick does it again with a 3 run jack to tie the game up.
Zzzzz. ;D
If anyone is interested in watching some real baseball the 2 best teams in the American League will be going at it in a matter of about 10 minutes. John Lackey on the hill for LAA (probably a bad sign) and Clay Buchholz for Boston.
It'd be nice to pick up a big win on the road tonight over one of the best pitchers in baseball. Go Sox.
Nobody cares about the league that doesn't play baseball the right way. ;D
EDIT: This just in, Clay Buchholz just gave up another hit in the bottom of the first. Angels lead 3-0.
Solo homer by Ankiel...tied up with the Padres 7-7 in the bottom on the 7th.
Izzy closed it out with relative ease. Nice 11-7 win and we gained a game on the Cubs who lost at Houston 2-1.
Anybody see Sabathia pitch tonight? Wow. He was dealing. He threw a CG 4 hitter with 10 K's at San Fran. I know they have a lousy lineup, but Sabathia has been flawless since the trade to Milwaukee.
Twins won 6-0 against Texas last night and 14-2 tonight. I believe they said we are 24-6 in our last 30 games. The CWS are losing 9-1 in the 9th to the Royals so it looks like we will be moving to within half a game of first.
Cards win their 3rd straight game today 6-5.
The Reds beat the Mets today 7-2. Josh Fogg pitched another good game after coming off the DL and Brandon Phillips had some awesome defense. The Reds are now only 3 games under .500 and should have been going for the sweep tomorrow had Cordero not blown our 2-run lead in the 9th on Thursday.
Cards win.
Brewers win.
Cubs lose.
Braves lose.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on July 19, 2008, 11:46:22 pm
Braves lose.
Just not going to happen this year. Time getting short.
Troy flippin Glaus in the house!!!! Two out, Three run homer to give the Cards a 5-3 lead heading to the 9th. Oh crap, Izzy is closing.
Quote from: jbell96 on July 20, 2008, 04:05:59 pm
Troy flippin Glaus in the house!!!! Two out, Three run homer to give the Cards a 5-3 lead heading to the 9th. Oh crap, Izzy is closing.
Is that on TV?
Not where I am, but Izzy blew the lead and Brad Thompson is trying to keep the game tied.
@#$@#$!%(!@%!#$%^)!#$^!^
Quote from: jbell96 on July 20, 2008, 04:20:39 pm
Not where I am, but Izzy blew the lead and Brad Thompson is trying to keep the game tied.
No lead is safe when he is in the house.
In other baseball news the marlins edge the Phillies, 3-2, in the 11th. Mets edge the Reds, 7-5, in 10 and the Nationals kill the Braves again, 16-5.
Aaron Miles with a Grand Freaking Slam to win the game 9-5!!!!!
AARON MILE SGRAND SLAMD!!!!!
Quote from: RHS on July 20, 2008, 04:29:14 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on July 20, 2008, 04:20:39 pm
Not where I am, but Izzy blew the lead and Brad Thompson is trying to keep the game tied.
No lead is safe when he is in the house.
In other baseball news the marlins edge the Phillies, 3-2, in the 11th. Mets edge the Reds, 7-5, in 10 and the Nationals kill the Braves again, 16-5.
I think the only reason Izzy pitched today is because Franklin had pitched 4 innings in three days. That said, all is well that ends well.
Quote from: RHS on July 20, 2008, 04:29:14 pm
No lead is safe when he is in the house.
St. Louis has blown an MLB leading
23 saves. They've been bailed out by hitting the ball well recently, but that pathetic bullpen will cost them in the playoffs if they don't do something to shore it up. Bank on that.
Red Sox and Angels about to begin on ESPN at 5:00. It'd be nice to win today and avoid the sweep. The Rays already lost as well.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 20, 2008, 04:58:22 pm
St. Louis has blown an MLB leading 23 saves. They've been bailed out by hitting the ball well recently, but that pathetic bullpen will cost them in the playoffs if they don't do something to shore it up. Bank on that.
Meaning:
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Franklin was given the day off. Hopefully this is the last time we see the Gascan in a meaningful situation the rest of the year.
Cubs win 9-0. Brewers are up 2-0 late. And the Braves lost to the Nationals
15-6.
I tell you what, between Pujols, Ankiel, Ludwick, and Glaus, we have one heck of a middle of the order. It's going to be one heck of a race between us, the Cubs, and the Brewers.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 20, 2008, 04:58:22 pm
Quote from: RHS on July 20, 2008, 04:29:14 pm
No lead is safe when he is in the house.
St. Louis has blown an MLB leading 23 saves. They've been bailed out by hitting the ball well recently, but that pathetic bullpen will cost them in the playoffs if they don't do something to shore it up. Bank on that.
Once Carpenter & Wainwright comeback the first part of next month two of the guys in the rotation will go back to the bullpen, Looper is a lock not sure about the other guy, and provide some much needed depth. If we'd won half those blown games we'd have a nice lead in the Central.
Hopefully the Sawks can avoid the broom today. Who am I kidding? Go Halos!!! ;D
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 20, 2008, 04:58:22 pm
Quote from: RHS on July 20, 2008, 04:29:14 pm
No lead is safe when he is in the house.
St. Louis has blown an MLB leading 23 saves. They've been bailed out by hitting the ball well recently, but that pathetic bullpen will cost them in the playoffs if they don't do something to shore it up. Bank on that.
Red Sox and Angels about to begin on ESPN at 5:00. It'd be nice to win today and avoid the sweep. The Rays already lost as well.
Halos broke out the brooms this weekend and the Sox continue to be putrid on the road. They should take a lesson from the Cardinals on how to win on the road. ;D
Quote from: jbell96 on July 20, 2008, 08:44:13 pmThe Sox continue to be putrid on the road.
I really wish I had an explanation as to why we turn into the AAA All-Stars when going on the road, but sadly, I don't. There's really not a lot to say. Doesn't get any easier either. We've got 3 at Seattle (we always suck up there), then come home to face the Yankees and Angels).
Bad times.
Quote from: jbell96 on July 20, 2008, 08:44:13 pmThey should take a lesson from the Cardinals
We don't take lessons from National League scum. ;D
I am posting this for my fellow Cardinal fans. It is a shot of Aaron Miles' walk off grand slam from this afternoon.
(http://images.stltoday.com/stltoday/resources/milesgrandslam624july21.jpg)
Beautiful!!!
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 20, 2008, 08:55:42 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on July 20, 2008, 08:44:13 pmThey should take a lesson from the Cardinals
We don't take lessons from National League scum. ;D
So you didn't learn from that series where we schooled you guys in your own ballpark? ;D
Cards have big four game series with the Brewers starting tomorrow. Here are the pitching matchups.
Mon: J. Piñeiro vs. S. McClung
Tue: K. Lohse vs. J. Suppan
Wed: B. Looper vs. C. Sabathia
Thu: T. Wellemeyer vs. B. Sheets
The first two matchups favor the Cards, but the Brewers 1-2 starters finish the series, so I honestly see this one ending up as a split.
Quote from: jbell96 on July 20, 2008, 09:33:29 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 20, 2008, 08:55:42 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on July 20, 2008, 08:44:13 pmThey should take a lesson from the Cardinals
We don't take lessons from National League scum. ;D
So you didn't learn from that series where we schooled you guys in your own ballpark? ;D
I think that annihilation in 2004 was a little more important. 8)
Quote from: jbell96 on July 20, 2008, 09:53:02 pm
Cards have big four game series with the Brewers starting tomorrow. Here are the pitching matchups.
Mon: J. Piñeiro vs. S. McClung
Tue: K. Lohse vs. J. Suppan
Wed: B. Looper vs. C. Sabathia
Thu: T. Wellemeyer vs. B. Sheets
The first two matchups favor the Cards, but the Brewers 1-2 starters finish the series, so I honestly see this one ending up as a split.
That's gonna be an awesome series. Chances are it will be a 2-2 split, but if either team could take 3 of 4 it would be huge.
The game tomorrow night is on ESPN. You get that over there on Qatar TV jbell? Haha.
We actually have a television network called AFN, Armed Forces Network, and yes I will get to see the game tomorrow night while at work.
I will actually get to watch a game tomorrow night. I only saw one game of this last series. I hate work.
Quote from: jbell96 on July 20, 2008, 09:03:27 pm
I am posting this for my fellow Cardinal fans. It is a shot of Aaron Miles' walk off grand slam from this afternoon.
(http://images.stltoday.com/stltoday/resources/milesgrandslam624july21.jpg)
I was sitting a few sections to the right of the bullpen.
What's sad is that I can't even believe it got to that point. I knew Izzy wouldn't be capable of preserving the lead.
Carpenter pitched four innings of shutout ball in Springfield, but he said he had poor command of his fastball, so he doesn't think he's ready just yet. I think I saw that he's going to pitch for Memphis on Friday. Hopefully that will go well.
Cards vs Brew Crew on ESPN right now
Cards score two on a Glaus double off the center field wall in the 1st.
Brewers leading 3-2 bottom 7.
Rickie Weeks had a 3 run bomb to give the Brew Crew the lead a few innings ago. Lets hope this holds up.
Looks like we'll need some 9th inning magic again tonight. How we only scored 2 runs off Seth McClung is beyond me.
Ron Villone is still in the majors?
Tie it up in the 9th & Franklin gives up a homer to lead off the 10th. Crap.
Brewers win 6-3! Big win to start the series. :)
Ryan Franklin got SHELLED.
Since I cannot curse, all I have to say is "Expletive Expletive Expletive!"
Ditto here, jbell ...
In the famous words of Captain Jack Sparrow ... "I need to shoot something. Where's the monkey?"
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 21, 2008, 09:36:49 pm
Brewers win 6-3! Big win to start the series. :)
Ryan Franklin got SHELLED.
Josh, I absolutely loathe the Mariners, but I will be their biggest fan over the next three days! (I think I just threw up in my mouth a little)
Quote from: jbell96 on July 21, 2008, 09:54:51 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 21, 2008, 09:36:49 pm
Brewers win 6-3! Big win to start the series. :)
Ryan Franklin got SHELLED.
Josh, I absolutely loathe the Mariners, but I will be their biggest fan over the next three days! (I think I just threw up in my mouth a little)
That's good. Jon Lester says he doesn't care though.
He is p3wning the M's thus far. 6 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 5 K's
A few other notable scores from tonight:
Detroit 19, Kansas City 4 - Final (was 19-0 in the 8th)
LA Dodgers 16, Colorado 6 - 7th (was 16-2 in the 5th)
I also thought I would give a Kip Wells update from tonight, since you Cardinals fans are so fond of him from his glory days with St. Louis:
Kip Wells: 1/3 IP, 7 H, 7 ER, 1 BB, 1 K
How does he have a job at the major league level? Seriously?
Come on MSU, a 2-hit shutout on the road for ATL. :)
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 21, 2008, 11:03:44 pm
Kip Wells: 1/3 IP, 7 H, 7 ER, 1 BB, 1 K
Some things never change.
Quote from: QF© on July 21, 2008, 11:10:33 pm
Come on MSU, a 2-hit shutout on the road for ATL. :)
I was mainly just posting about the blowouts by the Tigers and Dodgers, but Campillo pitched a great game tonight. I know the Mets and Phillies appreciated his efforts.
Oh, and more importantly: Red Sox 4, Mariners 0
Kip Wells brought me as close to committing murder as I ever want to be.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on July 22, 2008, 04:34:49 pm
Kip Wells brought me as close to committing murder as I ever want to be.
Izzy is getting me that way this season.
Some big games around MLB tonight:
Mets 5, Phillies 2 - 8th
Yankees 4, Twins 2 - 7th
A's 4, Rays 1 - 8th
Cardinals 3, Brewers 0 - 5th
As usual, the Twins just run away and hide when playing the Yankees. It makes me sick. They play well all season long, but whenever they run into NYY they seem intimidated. Regular season, playoffs, it doesn't matter - it's pretty rare for them to show up against New York. Ugh.
Braves got a single hit tonight.
Quote from: QF© on July 22, 2008, 08:56:19 pm
Braves got a single hit tonight.
Wow.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 22, 2008, 08:33:46 pmMets 5, Phillies 2 - 8th
In the top of the 9th Philly has the bases loaded with NO outs. Mets up 5-3. Great game.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
So Taguchi hits a double down the line to score 2 runs! Philly ties it 5-5! What a meltdown.
Edit: Jimmy Rollins doubles down the line to score 2 more runs! 7-5 Phillies. They have scored FIVE runs in the 9th and still nobody out!
Edit: Pedro Feliciano botches a sure double play ball and Philly scores again. 8-5 Phillies.
Cards up 3-2 in the 8th.
Crap, Hardy with an RBI single to tie the game at 3. Lohse gets out of the inning. Hopefully we'll recover and win the game.
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Bill Hall homers to make it 4-3 Brewers.
Brewers win 4-3! Bill Hall is the freaking man.
That was a really big win tonight considering Lohse was dominating them until the 7th and 8th innings then it all fell apart. I'm surprised the Cardinals didn't make a play for John Rauch who got traded today considering how atrocious their bullpen is.
Sabathia and Sheets going the next 2 days.
Well at least you aren't losing ground on 1st.
The Cubs have been teh suck since the break. Down 2-0 against the Dbacks again tonight already, we just cannot score against them at their park for some reason. Got 2 on with 1 out last inning, then both Lee and Ramirez flew out to the track. So frustrating.
Aaaaand there's your 9th inning loss. Again.
#*!@#$*@~&$(@#%!&@#!%(
Quote from: SMC on July 22, 2008, 09:42:34 pm
Well at least you aren't losing ground on 1st.
The Cubs have been teh suck since the break. Down 2-0 against the Dbacks again tonight already, we just cannot score against them at their park for some reason. Got 2 on with 1 out last inning, then both Lee and Ramirez flew out to the track. So frustrating.
Harden looked GREAT last night striking out 10 but no run support. Heck, he K'd 10 in his debut too. That's at least encouraging for Cub fans as long as he stays healthy. The runs will come.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 22, 2008, 09:42:28 pm
Brewers win 4-3! Bill Hall is the freaking man.
That was a really big win tonight considering Lohse was dominating them until the 7th and 8th innings then it all fell apart. I'm surprised the Cardinals didn't make a play for John Rauch who got traded today considering how atrocious their bullpen is.
Sabathia and Sheets going the next 2 days.
It is so frustrating that we can't win with our ace on the mound. Knowing us we'll beat CC & Sheets and force a split. It's a good thing I'm at work and can't start dropping F bombs at our bullpen.
Quote from: jbell96 on July 22, 2008, 09:45:41 pmIt is so frustrating that we can't win with our ace on the mound. Knowing us we'll beat CC & Sheets and force a split. It's a good thing I'm at work and can't start dropping F bombs at our bullpen.
Do you think they will make a trade for a reliever? Surely they'll do SOMETHING. I think it's obvious the bullpen they have now isn't good enough to get the job done.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 22, 2008, 09:45:25 pm
Quote from: SMC on July 22, 2008, 09:42:34 pm
Well at least you aren't losing ground on 1st.
The Cubs have been teh suck since the break. Down 2-0 against the Dbacks again tonight already, we just cannot score against them at their park for some reason. Got 2 on with 1 out last inning, then both Lee and Ramirez flew out to the track. So frustrating.
Harden looked GREAT last night striking out 10 but no run support. Heck, he K'd 10 in his debut too. That's at least encouraging for Cub fans as long as he stays healthy. The runs will come.
We got 2 hits off Randy Johnson, who I'm pretty sure they wheeled out of bridge night at the local old folks' home. I'm not too optimistic at this point. Ramirez is in an 0-for-18 slump. Lee and Soto are both slumping badly too. When the whole lineup is slumping at the same time it is hard to score.
The reason for them struggling lately is because they've been overworked. I think it really depends on Wainwright & Carpenter's health. If they come back 100% two guys in the rotation will drop back into the bullpen and provide some depth. That said, I think we need to make a run at Fuentes of Colorado.
SOB
I just saw Arizona picked up Jon Rauch from the Nats in a trade. There goes ANOTHER one of my save contributors in fantasy, right after Takashi Saito went out 6-8 weeks on the DL.
Quote from: jbell96 on July 22, 2008, 09:50:30 pm
That said, I think we need to make a run at Fuentes of Colorado.
Get ready to sell the farm.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 22, 2008, 09:53:41 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on July 22, 2008, 09:50:30 pm
That said, I think we need to make a run at Fuentes of Colorado.
Get ready to sell the farm.
I don't think we'll go after him. His price tag is too high and our GM doesn't want to give up too much for a hired gun.
Some good late night games out West:
Red Sox 1, Mariners 0 - 3rd (Drew solo homer)
D-backs 2, Cubs 1 - 4th (it's on WGN)
Cleveland 2, LA Angels 1 - 2nd
The Reds beat the Padres 4-3 in 11 innings tonight. We could very easily be 4 games abouve 500 and only 6.5 out of the division right now had it not been for 4 losses where we blew late leads and ended up losing in the last inning. 2 of those losses were blown saves in the 9th inning.
Quote from: Ken Griffey Jr. on July 22, 2008, 10:01:06 pm
The Reds beat the Padres 4-3 in 11 innings tonight. We could very easily be 4 games abouve 500 and only 6.5 out of the division right now had it not been for 4 losses where we blew late leads and ended up losing in the last inning. 2 of those losses were blown saves in the 9th inning.
At least your bullpen hasn't blown 23 saves like ours.
Cards didn't score in the first. Normally I'd say I'm disappointed, but we scored in the 1st inning of the last two games and lost, so hopefully that is a silver lining. (Boy am I reaching)
Quote from: jbell96 on July 23, 2008, 07:39:38 pm
Cards didn't score in the first. Normally I'd say I'm disappointed, but we scored in the 1st inning of the last two games and lost, so hopefully that is a silver lining. (Boy am I reaching)
Definately reaching on that one. I'm so sick of our dang bullpen right now that I'd just assume have Aaron Miles throw in to start closing. I mean seriously...does anyone else recall the two innings he pitched earlier in the season...didn't he go 6 up 6 down? Our bullpen is on the verge of an Ankiel size breakdown...give em' a couple of years...they'll all be playing the field.
I'm not the least bit aggrivated with all of this...I am cool, calm, an collected. :) Does anyone actually buy that?? :-\
We're lucky the Brewers haven't scored yet. They've had an opportunity to score in all but one inning. CC is killing us right now.
Quote from: jbell96 on July 23, 2008, 07:16:01 pm
Quote from: Ken Griffey Jr. on July 22, 2008, 10:01:06 pm
The Reds beat the Padres 4-3 in 11 innings tonight. We could very easily be 4 games abouve 500 and only 6.5 out of the division right now had it not been for 4 losses where we blew late leads and ended up losing in the last inning. 2 of those losses were blown saves in the 9th inning.
At least your bullpen hasn't blown 23 saves like ours.
Very true. That was the story of our bullpen last year. If I remember correctly, we had already blown 12 saves by the end of April.
With the way the Cards are going in the pen, Todd might get a call up sooner rather than later.
Sabathia has been demolishing everything in his path since the trade to Milwaukee. 4-0 with THREE CG's! I just saw the highlights and he was ridiculous tonight. Cardinals didn't even have a single runner get past 2nd base. A Brew Crew sweep with Sheets on the mound tomorrow would be fannntastic. I think you can definitely make a case that they are the best team in the NL with that sick rotation they've assembled. I'd hate to see them in a short series in the playoffs.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 24, 2008, 12:20:50 am
Sabathia has been demolishing everything in his path since the trade to Milwaukee. 4-0 with THREE CG's! I just saw the highlights and he was ridiculous tonight. Cardinals didn't even have a single runner get past 2nd base. A Brew Crew sweep with Sheets on the mound tomorrow would be fannntastic. I think you can definitely make a case that they are the best team in the NL with that sick rotation they've assembled. I'd hate to see them in a short series in the playoffs.
Get your facts straight Josh. Brendan Ryan got to 3rd with two outs in the 1st! ;D
Quote from: jbell96 on July 24, 2008, 11:43:35 amGet your facts straight Josh. Brendan Ryan got to 3rd with two outs in the 1st! ;D
Oh my bad. So no runners past 2nd AFTER the 1st inning. When you get pounded in a big game by a division rival, you just get pounded in a big game by a division rival. 8)
Good game in the Big Apple right now. Phillies and Mets tied 1-1 in the 7th inning. Big rubber game with both tied for the division lead.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 24, 2008, 12:58:02 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on July 24, 2008, 11:43:35 amGet your facts straight Josh. Brendan Ryan got to 3rd with two outs in the 1st! ;D
Oh my bad. So no runners past 2nd AFTER the 1st inning. When you get pounded in a big game by a division rival, you just get pounded in a big game by a division rival. 8)
Good game in the Big Apple right now. Phillies and Mets tied 1-1 in the 7th inning. Big rubber game with both tied for the division lead.
I wouldn't call that a pounding per say.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 24, 2008, 12:58:02 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on July 24, 2008, 11:43:35 amGet your facts straight Josh. Brendan Ryan got to 3rd with two outs in the 1st! ;D
Oh my bad. So no runners past 2nd AFTER the 1st inning. When you get pounded in a big game by a division rival, you just get pounded in a big game by a division rival. 8)
Good game in the Big Apple right now. Phillies and Mets tied 1-1 in the 7th inning. Big rubber game with both tied for the division lead.
I'm with J-Lo, 3-0 isn't exactly a pounding.
We also had Albert up with a chance to put us within one as well
Actually J-Lo, Albert could have tied it with a homer. I just don't want to get swept.
Two outs away from salvaging a game in this terrible series & Franklin serves one up to Braun to give the Brewers a 4-3 lead. Bullpen help is needed. NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How about we score more than 3 runs in a game?
That would also help. I swear I think the home plate ump had it out for us tonight. He was calling pitches about a foot outside a strike on our right handed hitters all night, but when Wellemeyer made the pitch he'd call it a ball.
I am beyond ticked right now. We need to decide if we're playing for the playoffs or the future. I'm sick of this crap.
How can I say what I really want to say about the past four games .... @*&$^@&@$(*&$(*$(@&Q@##*(^$#&$#*&#!!!!!!!
The Brewers are going to the world series against the Yankees you heard it hear first
Brewers ... I can accept that.
Yankees ... No can do. Can we have the Angels instead?
No halos in mine series man ....The yankees are on fire but so are the angels but imo they would be 4th in the AL east
Quote from: Manningfan For President on July 24, 2008, 10:20:58 pm
The Brewers are going to the world series against the Yankees you heard it hear first
The Brewers going won't surprise me at all, but do you really think the Yankees are going deep into October with
Sidney Ponson and
Darrell Rasner as their #4 and #5 starters? Come on.
And lol @ teh Cardinals.
Quote from: Manningfan For President on July 24, 2008, 10:36:37 pm
No halos in mine series man ....The yankees are on fire but so are the angels but imo they would be 4th in the AL east
Well the Angels just swept the best team in the AL East. I know the standings don't show it but the BoSox are the best team in that division. The Angels are for real and are a very strong candidate to make it to the World Series. Plus, they have the best closer in baseball right now and that is definitely a plus in the long run.
Quote from: Ken Griffey Jr. on July 24, 2008, 11:59:03 pm
Quote from: Manningfan For President on July 24, 2008, 10:36:37 pm
No halos in mine series man ....The yankees are on fire but so are the angels but imo they would be 4th in the AL east
Well the Angels just swept the best team in the AL East. I know the standings don't show it but the BoSox are the best team in that division. The Angels are for real and are a very strong candidate to make it to the World Series. Plus, they have the best closer in baseball right now and that is definitely a plus in the long run.
After the Rays loss tonight we're actually tied for 1st in the East now. If we get matched up with the Angels in the playoffs I do like our chances when push comes to shove, but they are 5-1 against us this year. They do have great pitching, but that offense is terrible and I don't know if it will be enough for them in the long run. (How else do you think K-Rod has 42 saves? The offense sucks)
Ponson is on fire and he yankees will provide run support for them so yea i think their going lol
27th championship I can see it now Josh
I'd much rather fight down the stretch with the Brew Crew than the Cardinals. That's why I'm glad that StL got swept. Rather see them out by mid August and the Cubs battle Milwaukee. The Brewers have to prove they can win down the stretch, and with all the Cards' deficiencies they have players and a manager that have won in October.
Either way surely the WC will come out of the Central unless a couple of East teams stay red hot.
Cardinal fans enjoy this crappy video, but listen to the song.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=i18nSZBgOfs
The Brewers and the Diamondbacks could be hard to beat if they make the postseason
Sabathia,Sheets,Suppan
Webb,Haren,Olsen
Umm Rodriguez is good but far from the best the two best closers are in the AL East
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 24, 2008, 11:55:21 pm
Quote from: Manningfan For President on July 24, 2008, 10:20:58 pm
The Brewers are going to the world series against the Yankees you heard it hear first
The Brewers going won't surprise me at all, but do you really think the Yankees are going deep into October with Sidney Ponson and Darrell Rasner as their #4 and #5 starters? Come on.
And lol @ teh Cardinals.
I think I peaked last night in terms of being ticked off. I am unusually calm for someone whose team should have at least earned a split over the last four days. We weren't supposed to contend this year and somehow we are staying in it. I just hope that if we make a trade, we don't sacrifice our future for someone who won't be around more than the next three months.
We have been hanging on for the last month or so. This may have been what finally puts us out.
Not a good start so far tonight. Cards down 3-0 in the top of the 5th.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3505686
Nady goes to the Yankees.
The hits just keep on coming. Delgado with a 2 run shot to make it 5-0. Have fun when you get back to Memphis Mr. Boggs.
I have turned the channel. I am now watching Cliff Lee against the Twins.
I would appreciate someone, anyone, to beat the Brewers at some point. Surely they can't stay this hot. But if they win tonight they will tie us for 1st. Ugh.
Good news is that we play them head to head in the next series. Hopefully we can bounce back to take the last 2 against the Fish and either have a lead or tie going into Miller Park.
Yankee$ win 1-0
at least they got the lousy home plate ump out of the way in game 1
what a joke that guy was, good for pitchers but a BS strike zone
Xavier Nady????
Quote from: Hallelugahhhhh!!!!! on July 25, 2008, 09:46:43 pm
Xavier Nady????
They also got Marte in the deal and didn't give up much. It ticks me off that Pittsburgh took a weak deal like that.
Were set now , if we can get one more starting pitcher. We need Kyle Lohse
Quote from: Hallelugahhhhh!!!!! on July 25, 2008, 10:15:13 pm
Were set now , if we can get one more starting pitcher. We need Kyle Lohse
You are an idiot. Why would the Cardinals trade Lohse?
Money money money money.........sing it aloud its better that way
O yea were stacked were the Yankees thats why
Quote from: Manningfan is Your Farther on July 25, 2008, 10:21:01 pm
Money money money money.........sing it aloud its better that way
O yea were stacked were the Yankees thats why
Chad, you really need to quit making yourself look like an idiot. Your post makes absolutely no sense.
Ok your right this will be my epiphany post.
Seriuosly tho the Yankees have lots of talent to get a pitcher, we probally wouldnt get Lohse cause Duncan resurrected him but we need one more strong starter
Quote from: Indiana Jones on July 25, 2008, 09:21:23 pm
at least they got the lousy home plate ump out of the way in game 1
what a joke that guy was, good for pitchers but a BS strike zone
That's for sure. That last strike on Lowell was about 10-12 inches off the plate inside. What a joke. It's unfortunate BS calls like that have to dictate such an important part of the game, but those are the breaks sometimes.
Joba was filthy tonight though. Gotta give credit where credit is due.
Quote from: Manningfan Has Seen The Error Of His Ways on July 25, 2008, 10:21:01 pmO yea were stacked were the Yankees thats why
And you haven't won a World Series since 2000. Get back to me when they win another.
I'm at the historic Doubleday Field right now. Luckily, I'm in the stands on a chart tonight. Being Hall of Fame induction weekend, they're expecting a lot of Hall of Famers at the game.
Frick you Hansen you piece of trash.
Any momentum the Cardinals had after yesterday's win is gone. Mets up 7-0 in the bottom of the sixth with runners on 2nd and 3rd and nobody out. Santana has only thrown 62 pitches in 6 innings.
Quote from: jbell96 on July 27, 2008, 01:56:24 pm
Any momentum the Cardinals had after yesterday's win is gone. Mets up 7-0 in the bottom of the sixth with runners on 2nd and 3rd and nobody out. Santana has only thrown 62 pitches in 6 innings.
Not that it's great consolation for Cardinals fans, but the Cubs are on the verge of getting swept at Wrigley by the Marlins. Florida leads 5-2 in the 4th. Lot of game left to play though.
Milwaukee leading Houston 4-3 in the 5th. Go Brewers!
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 27, 2008, 02:50:02 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on July 27, 2008, 01:56:24 pm
Any momentum the Cardinals had after yesterday's win is gone. Mets up 7-0 in the bottom of the sixth with runners on 2nd and 3rd and nobody out. Santana has only thrown 62 pitches in 6 innings.
Not that it's great consolation for Cardinals fans, but the Cubs are on the verge of getting swept at Wrigley by the Marlins. Florida leads 5-2 in the 4th. Lot of game left to play though.
Milwaukee leading Houston 4-3 in the 5th. Go Brewers!
The Cubs/Marlins series started on Thursday. The Cubs won game one and lost the next two. Soriano just tied the game with a 3 run homer and the Astros have taken a 5-4 lead over the Brewers.
Quote from: jbell96 on July 27, 2008, 02:55:46 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 27, 2008, 02:50:02 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on July 27, 2008, 01:56:24 pm
Any momentum the Cardinals had after yesterday's win is gone. Mets up 7-0 in the bottom of the sixth with runners on 2nd and 3rd and nobody out. Santana has only thrown 62 pitches in 6 innings.
Not that it's great consolation for Cardinals fans, but the Cubs are on the verge of getting swept at Wrigley by the Marlins. Florida leads 5-2 in the 4th. Lot of game left to play though.
Milwaukee leading Houston 4-3 in the 5th. Go Brewers!
The Cubs/Marlins series started on Thursday. The Cubs won game one and lost the next two. Soriano just tied the game with a 3 run homer and the Astros have taken a 5-4 lead over the Brewers.
Ah, forgot that they played on Thursday. I worked late that night so I missed it.
On another note, I'm so freaking sick of Paul Maholm getting ZERO run support from the Pirates. He pitched a gem today: 1 ER on 4 hits and he struck out 9 in 7 IP... yet he will get another ND. Ridiculous. Put him on a team who gave him a little bit of support and he'd probably be along the lines of 12-4.
Cardinals could use a good lefty starter like Maholm. He did go against Peavy today so I can see why he didn't have much run support.
Cubs rallied to win 9-6 and the Brewers lost 11-6. Cards are four back with a crucial road series in Atlanta starting tomorrow. I'd like to know when the Cards get another day off. The earliest it could happen is next Monday. They haven't had one since the All Star break ended.
Some huge series that are beginning tonight:
Angels at Red Sox
White Sox at Twins
Cubs at Brewers
And speaking of the Twins, I would probably kill myself right now if I was one of their fans. They refuse to call up Francisco Liriano. The guy is on a 9-0 streak at AAA Rochester, and in his last 5 starts has gone 5-0 with a 0.29 ERA. Meanwhile Minnesota is in the middle of a pennant race and they won't call him up to the majors, despite the fact Livan Hernandez has been outright terrible. Jeff, what gives? That ownership is a freaking joke.
Mark T to the Angels.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3510042
The Angels are going for it all now with this trade. No doubt about that. And right now, I believe they're the best team in baseball.
Kotchman is a solid player, but that's obviously quite a step down from Tex. Of course Atlanta couldn't ask for all that much in return considering everyone knew they were gonna dump him somehow. I still think if they really wanted to, the Braves could re-sign Teixeira. Sure they'd have to pony up some cash, but it's not like they're going broke as an organization.
Wow, Atlanta did awesome in this deal. Did you know the PTBNL is a Traveler who throws gas? Kotchman is going to be great in Hotlanta and Tex will be a rental for 2 months and 1 week when the Angels get whacked in the first round. They will get probably three first round sandwich picks for him though. He will be in pinstripes in 2009.
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on July 30, 2008, 01:33:52 am
He will be in pinstripes in 2009.
Unfortunately, I feel that Teixeira and Sabathia both will be.
It's funny how all the Yankees will win it all stuff stopped since they've lost three in a row, two to last place Baltimore.
Izzy has been reinstated as the closer in St. Louis. (God help us) I hate to say it, but Wainwright might end up closing again if Izzy doesn't get his crap together. Although the last time that happened, we did win a World Series. ;D
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 30, 2008, 02:20:39 am
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on July 30, 2008, 01:33:52 am
He will be in pinstripes in 2009.
Unfortunately, I feel that Teixeira and Sabathia both will be.
I bet Sabathia will be in Texas watching his ERA soar above 4.50 in 2009
Pudge to the Yankees.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3511535
Quote from: QF© on July 30, 2008, 03:45:26 pm
Pudge to the Yankees.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3511535
Wow. I really like Pudge, but I hope the Yankees fall flat on their face. Pudge for Farnsworth?!?!?! Are you kidding me? Does every other team want the Yankees to win it?
Quote from: dc24 on July 30, 2008, 04:04:10 pm
Quote from: QF© on July 30, 2008, 03:45:26 pm
Pudge to the Yankees.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3511535
Wow. I really like Pudge, but I hope the Yankees fall flat on their face. Pudge for Farnsworth?!?!?! Are you kidding me? Does every other team want the Yankees to win it?
Pudge is not very good anymore. This isn't 1999. He is probably a below average hitter for a C now. The Yankees aren't interested in that though. They want his defense. The Tigers are desperate for a bullpen arm.
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on July 30, 2008, 04:26:23 pm
Quote from: dc24 on July 30, 2008, 04:04:10 pm
Quote from: QF© on July 30, 2008, 03:45:26 pm
Pudge to the Yankees.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3511535
Wow. I really like Pudge, but I hope the Yankees fall flat on their face. Pudge for Farnsworth?!?!?! Are you kidding me? Does every other team want the Yankees to win it?
Pudge is not very good anymore. This isn't 1999. He is probably a below average hitter for a C now. The Yankees aren't interested in that though. They want his defense. The Tigers are desperate for a bullpen arm.
I was kind of thinking the same thing, but it said he's hitting .290, granted only 5 HR's and 32 RBI's, but still. He was splitting time with Inge, who's hitting .227 with 8 HR's and 30 RBI's. Pudge has only thrown out 18 of 50 basestealers this year too. Inge hasn't been much better behind the plate either. Maybe they have a catching prospect to bring up though. Farnsworth hasn't been bad, but not really good either, and he's so inconsistent. You don't know what he's going to do when he's on the mound.
Jose Molina has been playing catcher most of the year for the Yankees, and has done better in the field than Pudge, but is only hitting around .220 or so. I disagree with this trade being for defense. Pudge is a better offensive player and only slightly below Molina in the defensive department. I think they did this for his offense moreso than his defense.
The bottom line is that I look at this trade and have to think that the Tigers got worse and the Yankees got better. I know it isn't 1999, but surely the Tigers could have gotten more than Farnsworth in return, at least one young guy with him.
Only one more hour until Chris Carpenter takes the mound for the first time in 485 days...I know I'm not the only Cardinals fan waiting for this???
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on July 30, 2008, 04:26:23 pmPudge is not very good anymore.
Agreed. I honestly don't see this as a huge move for New York. If the Yankees are getting Pudge for defense, why bother? Jose Molina is arguably the best throwing catcher in the AL. Also, a lot of people may not realize it but Farnsworth has been having a really solid year out of the pen. He's been very reliable.
Also, hard to believe no one's said anything, but the Red Sox and Marlins are trying REALLY hard to work out a deal for Manny. I, for one, would like us to get this thing done. Chances are it will go down to the wire. Stay tuned.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 30, 2008, 09:49:09 pm
Also, hard to believe no one's said anything, but the Red Sox and Marlins are trying REALLY hard to work out a deal for Manny. I, for one, would like us to get this thing done. Chances are it will go down to the wire. Stay tuned.
Boston may end up getting my cousin as part of the deal.
Manny da Marlin?
He can play in front of at least 14,000 every night at home games. What a come down that would be. His act is tiresome.
Quote from: QF© on July 30, 2008, 10:05:30 pm
Manny da Marlin?
He can play in front of at least 14,000 every night at home games. What a come down that would be. His act is tiresome.
I think this Manny trade will got right down to the wire tomorrow afternoon. In the end I think the deal will get done though. I hope it does. I think we're past the point of no return by now with what he has said and done recently.
I kinda agree. But that is such a weird deal that nothing would surprise me. he could stay and make a statement and they'd pretend like it didn't happen.
But I'm 60/40 towards they trade him if they can get something.
This is basically what we're looking at here, if the deal indeed does go down:
Boston gets: Jason Bay, John Grabow
Florida gets: Manny Ramirez
Pittsburg gets: Jeremy Hermida, prospects
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 31, 2008, 12:43:05 am
This is basically what we're looking at here, if the deal indeed does go down:
Boston gets: Jason Bay, John Grabow
Florida gets: Manny Ramirez
Pittsburg gets: Jeremy Hermida, prospects
There were rumblings about Bay going to St. Louis, but I don't see it happening now.
White Sox & Reds just agreed on a trade to send Griffey to Chicago, but Griffey still has to approve it.
BREAKING NEWS: Manny Ramirez traded to the Dodgers.
No word yet on all the specifics though. I'm hearing the Red Sox got Jason Bay in this somewhere. Stay tuned.
Wow, not on ESPN.com yet. LA? I can;t believe they'd spend the dough.
Probably got Andruw Jones sent to Boston. ::)
Its a three way deal with the Pirates, Pittsburgh will get 4 minor leaguers(not sure who), Boston gets Jason Bay.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3513383
Red Sox get: Jason Bay
Dodgers get: Manny Ramirez
Pirates get: Craig Hansen, Brandon Moss, Andy LaRoche, Bryan Morris
I can say that Brandon Moss is gonna be a really good OF for the Pirates. He played a little with the Red Sox, but there just wasn't a place for him to play everyday with us. Hansen has been up and down but he could be a good reliever in the NL. From the Dodgers Andy LaRoche is a highly touted 3B prospect and I don't know much about Morris, but apparently he's supposed to be good.
From the Red Sox side of this I'm really happy. Jason Bay (.282/22/64) is having a very good season and helps us out financially as well. He makes 5.5 M this year and 7 M next year. Not having Manny frees up a TON of money for us in the offseason and hopefully we can go land some big time FA's.
With Manny gone it strengthens the potential for the Sox to get Teixera in the off-season.
Quote from: QF© on July 31, 2008, 04:14:49 pm
With Manny gone it strengthens the potential for the Sox to get Teixera in the off-season.
It definitely frees up a lot of money, but I don't really see the point of going after him. Youkilis is an All-Star caliber 1B and we have Big Papi at DH. I would much rather take that money and invest it into the rotation and bullpen. Getting Sabathia or Sheets would be nice. I'll have to take a look at all the FA's for '09, but those two will definitely be grabbing the headlines.
I think you'll see them move one more big name in the off season.
I guess we'll see. Who knows.
I'm definitely excited about the Jason Bay era though. Hopefully he peppers the crap out of the Monster.
For some reason, I think we've seen all the big moves. I bet we see some minor ones in the next few hours involving middle relievers.
Would be nice to see another biggie though.
Wow Boston to LA. That's a move. Manny should cut his hair before he gets there.
Pittsburgh got a heck of a coupe for Bay.
Quote from: QF© on July 31, 2008, 04:25:10 pm
For some reason, I think we've seen all the big moves. I bet we see some minor ones in the next few hours involving middle relievers.
Would be nice to see another biggie though.
The deadline passed at 3:00.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 31, 2008, 05:13:08 pm
Quote from: QF© on July 31, 2008, 04:25:10 pm
For some reason, I think we've seen all the big moves. I bet we see some minor ones in the next few hours involving middle relievers.
Would be nice to see another biggie though.
The deadline passed at 3:00.
Wasn't it 2 years ago there was one that didn't leak out until around 6:00 or so? They were official, but not done with the particulars.
Point noted though.
Quote from: ASU Rugby on July 31, 2008, 04:36:17 pm
Pittsburgh got a heck of a coupe for Bay.
They did. Moss will start right away for them in LF and be a solid contributor. Hansen could turn into a good reliever for them as well. LaRoche has a lot of potential as does Morris.
Quote from: QF© on July 31, 2008, 05:15:53 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on July 31, 2008, 05:13:08 pm
Quote from: QF© on July 31, 2008, 04:25:10 pm
For some reason, I think we've seen all the big moves. I bet we see some minor ones in the next few hours involving middle relievers.
Would be nice to see another biggie though.
The deadline passed at 3:00.
Wasn't it 2 years ago there was one that didn't leak out until around 6:00 or so? They were official, but not done with the particulars.
Point noted though.
I honestly can't remember for sure. Chances are everything is said and done by now though. There have definitely been some big names traded at the deadline the last few days. Its been exciting an exciting one though.
So, I got lucky enough to get some free tickets to the Cardinals/Dodgers game Wednesday night with some friends. It just so happens that I'll be getting to see Manny play in person for the 2nd time this season, only with a different team. Should be a lot of fun. This will be my 1st time going to the new Busch Stadium.
Um, if I openly cheer for the Dodgers... what are the odds anyone tries to cause me physical harm? Just thought I'd ask. :D
Being that you'll be surrounded by Cardinal fans, not likely for any harm to come.
Thank God Manny is not a Marlin.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on July 31, 2008, 11:39:45 pm
Thank God Manny is not a Marlin.
I was going to lol if that happened.
All I have to say is Colby Rasmus better be worth the hype.
Check out what Baseball Prospectus had to say on the Manny trade:
"I like this trade for the Sox even if you ignore everything but the baseball. They trade two months of Ramirez, his options, and two prospects who aren't in their system's top eight or so. They get back Bay, who they'll have under contract for next season at a cost of $7 million.
The more I thought about this deal, the more I focused in on the Ramirez-for-Bay aspect. Hansen is a failed #1 prospect who in a supposed revival year has 25 strikeouts and 23 walks in the majors. He was never going to get an extended opportunity with the Red Sox. Moss is a fourth outfielder on a good team or a starter on a bad one, someone who'll hit .270 and be average in every other aspect of the game. Xavier Nady with less power and a better glove. Losing those two guys doesn't impact the Sox at all, and the cash is a wash—they'd probably have had to spend $7 million above the cost of Bay to fill a lineup hole next season anyway.
No, the key thing here is one small fact that gets lost in the names and the cities and the reputations: the Red Sox may have landed the best player in the deal. Outside of a 2007 season in which he played through a bad knee injury—arguably akin to Jason Kendall playing through injuries while with the Pirates and ruining his career earlier this decade—Bay has been one of the most productive outfielders in baseball." - Joe Sheehan, Baseball Prospectus
Like I said, I really like this trade, and more specifically, Jason Bay. Let the Jason Bay era begin!
Jason Bay is teh man. He just made a web gem catch to save a run. His first 2 AB's he walked and scored, then got HBP. He got a standing O his first time up and having a great all around night.
1-0 Red Sox
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3515211
Liriano returns.
It's about freaking time they call up Liriano. That was ridiculous.
Angels continue to dominate baseball beating the Yankees 1-0 tonight. Despite getting only 4 hits they got 1 in the 9th off Rivera and then K-Rod closed it out.
Red Sox and A's tied 1-1 in the 10th.
JASON FREAKIN' BAY!!! Bay triples in the bottom of the 12th and scores the winning run on a Jed Lowrie single! He scored our only 2 runs tonight and also saved a run with a great sliding catch.
Welcome to Boston my friend. :D
Liriano brings his A game back in his first start.
6 IP 3 H 0 R 0 ER 3 BB 5 K's
I was lucky enough to pick him up in my fantasy league.
Quote from: QF© on August 03, 2008, 03:40:00 pm
Liriano brings his A game back in his first start.
6 IP 3 H 0 R 0 ER 3 BB 5 K's
I was lucky enough to pick him up in my fantasy league.
I am glad to see him back in the majors. I believe they said he was on a 7 game win streak in the minors.
The Twins are now back in first in the Central.
Wonder if Cardinal management wishes they had gotten some bullpen help?
Anyone watch the Angels/Yankees game. Halo's up 5-1 bottom of the 5th and the Yanks comeback to win 13-9. Of course golden boy K-Rod wasn't seen, and it didn't help the Angels out any givving up 3 errors in the 7th eather.
Quote from: jbell96 on August 03, 2008, 11:24:05 pm
Wonder if Cardinal management wishes they had gotten some bullpen help?
Doing nothing was a huge mistake. They're right in the thick of the WC race, and not making a move very well may cost them a spot in the playoffs. I'd be pretty p
issed at the front office if I was a Cardinals fan. Thankfully I am not.
Some scores from MLB tonight:
Royals 4, Red Sox 2 - 5th
Yankees 4, Rangers 2 - 5th
Indians 4, Rays 2 - 8th
Reds 6, Brewers 3 - 9th
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 04, 2008, 08:48:11 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on August 03, 2008, 11:24:05 pm
Wonder if Cardinal management wishes they had gotten some bullpen help?
Doing nothing was a huge mistake. They're right in the thick of the WC race, and not making a move very well may cost them a spot in the playoffs. I'd be pretty pissed at the front office if I was a Cardinals fan. Thankfully I am not.
I agree. They should have traded a top prospect for an average lefty middle reliever.
Quote from: ASU Rugby on August 04, 2008, 10:17:32 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 04, 2008, 08:48:11 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on August 03, 2008, 11:24:05 pm
Wonder if Cardinal management wishes they had gotten some bullpen help?
Doing nothing was a huge mistake. They're right in the thick of the WC race, and not making a move very well may cost them a spot in the playoffs. I'd be pretty pissed at the front office if I was a Cardinals fan. Thankfully I am not.
I agree. They should have traded a top prospect for an average lefty middle reliever.
Umm no. There was no trade out there that was worth losing our young talent. This team has probably hit their peak anyway. Also we get Carpenter and Wainwright back, which is like a great trade but without losing anyone.
I enjoyed Marlon Byrd's walkoff slam against the Evil Empire! ;D If Texas only had a couple more pitchers like Padilla they'd be REAL trouble.
another delay in Wrigley Field
yeah this'll go over well with the players/managers since the Astros/Cubs play a day game tomorrow
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 04, 2008, 10:40:28 pm
Also we get Carpenter and Wainwright back, which is like a great trade but without losing anyone.
I just keep reminding myself of this exact same thing every time I have to watch our bullpen blow another one. I've been saying this exact same thing through out all of the trading (or non-trading as our case may be,) but my lord it's becoming harder and harder to believe. Just gotta keep hanging in there. Carpenter has start number 2 tomorrow and Wainwright is on track to be back soon...this can provide some major bullpen relief in several different ways....I just keep telling myself to be patient. Patience...It's not working very well but I'm still hoping.
The Twins were up 6-0 in the 5th and 6-1 in the 6th. They are now down 7-6 in the 7th. Awesome. We could have gone a game up and now we are blowing it.
Great, a 10 run 7th inning puts the Mariners up 11-6 going into the 8th. Hopefully luck is on our side.
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on August 04, 2008, 11:27:43 pmI just keep reminding myself of this exact same thing every time I have to watch our bullpen blow another one.
I'm hoping to see an old fashioned Cardinals bullpen meltdown that we've all come to know and love when I'm at the game Wednesday night. Just thought I'd make you jealous, Stacey. :)
I'm looking forward to seeing Manny in LF and my old Red Sox boy D-Lowe on the mound. St. Louis will have former Red Sox scrub Joel Pineiro on the hill. He's pretty much terrible so hopefully I'll see a Dodgers victory. That would be nice.
Quote from: ppop on August 04, 2008, 10:57:20 pm
I enjoyed Marlon Byrd's walkoff slam against the Evil Empire!
As did I. That made the heartbreaking loss at KC a little easier to take.
Joba Chamberlain left the game tonight with shoulder problems. Yankee fans better hope it's nothing serious.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 05, 2008, 12:01:50 am
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on August 04, 2008, 11:27:43 pmI just keep reminding myself of this exact same thing every time I have to watch our bullpen blow another one.
I'm hoping to see an old fashioned Cardinals bullpen meltdown that we've all come to know and love when I'm at the game Wednesday night. Just thought I'd make you jealous, Stacey. :)
I'm looking forward to seeing Manny in LF and my old Red Sox boy D-Lowe on the mound. St. Louis will have former Red Sox scrub Joel Pineiro on the hill. He's pretty much terrible so hopefully I'll see a Dodgers victory. That would be nice.
How I am still friends with you I have no idea :)
Joba leaving early made me smile, but not as much as the walk off granny. Sox could have made ground up tonight but lost it.
Wonder how Yankee fans feel about that Marte guy now? 1.1 IP 2H 4ER 3BB 2K 1HR
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 05, 2008, 12:01:50 am
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on August 04, 2008, 11:27:43 pmI just keep reminding myself of this exact same thing every time I have to watch our bullpen blow another one.
I'm looking forward to seeing my old Red Sox boy D-Lowe on the mound.
Sorry, but I think we'll be seeing the Derek Lowe face on Wednesday. And as a Red Sox fan you know that is not a good thing. :)
Quote from: jbell96 on August 05, 2008, 01:21:01 am
Wonder how Yankee fans feel about that Marte guy now? 1.1 IP 2H 4ER 3BB 2K 1HR
The jury's still out on him. I'm hoping he's one of those "Can't-cut-it-under-the-big-city-spotlight" type of guys and fails miserably.
Another positive: The Yankees have 15 of their next 18 on the road.
To my fellow members of Cardinal Nation,
I know a lot of you are in panic mode right now, but as bad as we've been since the All Star break, we are only a half game back in the wild card behind a Brewers team that seems to be imploding. (See tonight's dugout scuffle) We will see what we are made of on the 10 game road trip we start in Chicago on Friday. If we can make it through that trip 5-5, at the worst, I think we will be in good shape for the stretch run. If we have a bad road trip feel free to panic. :)
Quote from: jbell96 on August 05, 2008, 01:27:24 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 05, 2008, 12:01:50 am
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on August 04, 2008, 11:27:43 pmI just keep reminding myself of this exact same thing every time I have to watch our bullpen blow another one.
I'm looking forward to seeing my old Red Sox boy D-Lowe on the mound.
Sorry, but I think we'll be seeing the Derek Lowe face on Wednesday. And as a Red Sox fan you know that is not a good thing. :)
I know it all too well, but he's pitched pretty consistent this year. I'm going to wear my 2004 World Series champions shirt. Yall keep an eye out for me. :)
If I was at the game you'd be easy to find, you'd be the kid getting dragged out of the ballpark! :)
Quote from: jbell96 on August 05, 2008, 01:37:59 am
If I was at the game you'd be easy to find, you'd be the kid getting dragged out of the ballpark! :)
I'd be screaming for protective services.
Josh, cheer hard for the Dodgers.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 05, 2008, 12:11:03 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 05, 2008, 12:01:50 am
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on August 04, 2008, 11:27:43 pmI just keep reminding myself of this exact same thing every time I have to watch our bullpen blow another one.
I'm hoping to see an old fashioned Cardinals bullpen meltdown that we've all come to know and love when I'm at the game Wednesday night. Just thought I'd make you jealous, Stacey. :)
I'm looking forward to seeing Manny in LF and my old Red Sox boy D-Lowe on the mound. St. Louis will have former Red Sox scrub Joel Pineiro on the hill. He's pretty much terrible so hopefully I'll see a Dodgers victory. That would be nice.
How I am still friends with you I have no idea :)
Lets ditch him....ok ok can we at least stuff him in a trash can or give him a swirley or something??
Chris Davis just hit a 3 run double to extend the Rangers' lead over the Yankees to 8-2. Man, the Rangers are a fun team to watch.
Quote from: dc24 on August 05, 2008, 09:58:11 pm
Chris Davis just hit a 3 run double to extend the Rangers' lead over the Yankees to 8-2. Man, the Rangers are a fun team to watch.
They're going to give me a stroke! Held on for an 8-6 win over the Evil Empire! ;D
Freaking Izzy.........
If this isn't clear what the Cardinals need to do, then nothing is ...
GET RID OF IZZY!!!!!
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 05, 2008, 10:44:22 pm
Freaking Izzy.........
#$%^%$$ %%^^$ &^%$$
Don't wanna look...tell me how it ends. >:(
lol @ Izzy. The fun never ends.
Carpenter losing the win is the saddest part.
(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0cO59in2aVccD/610x.jpg)
Izzy has an endless supply.
Other scores from around the league:
Red Sox 8, Royals 2 - Jason Bay: 4-5, 2 singles, 2 doubles, 2 RBI's, 2 runs. Bay is the man.
Rangers 8, Yankees 6 - NYY fall 6 1/2 back in the AL East
Tigers 6, White Sox 6 - 10th
Mariners 4, Twins 3 - 6th
Quote from: QF© on August 05, 2008, 11:01:38 pm
Carpenter losing the win is the saddest part.
Thats what prompted most of my ^#%@ #^@Q* #^#. Carpenter had a great outing and we can't even give him any fricking support. What a welcome back for a great 2nd start.
And Braves 4 SF 1 in the 7th as Hampton goes for his first win in forever. :)
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on August 05, 2008, 11:07:10 pmThats what prompted most of my ^#%@ #^@Q* #^#. Carpenter had a great outing and we can't even give him any fricking support. What a welcome back for a great 2nd start.
I don't get it. WHY do they not DFA him? That's the logical option here.
Anyway, I hope this game goes about 17 innings. Burn that bullpen.
Bullpen?
It's a good thing I'm not in driving distance of St. Louis right now because Izzy would be a dead man.
Quote from: QF© on August 05, 2008, 11:12:45 pm
Bullpen?
I'm not really sure what a bullpen is myself...because you sure as heck can't call that 3 ring circus we've been dealing with one.
I'm not staying up to watch though...I have to get up way to early for this crap. I'll just wake up to see the continued disappointment tomorrow.
Thank God for Ludwick...now I can go to bed with out wanting to commit murder. Although I do believe if we pull our $$ cardinals fans we could pay for a hit on Izzy?? Nite!!
I honestly think that Ryan Ludwick saved Izzy's life tonight.
Izzy better slow down. I'm running out of pictures. I'll have to start on with natural gas and propane soon.
What a finish to the White Sox/Tigers game. White sox rally from a 6-2 deficit to force extra innings, Polanco hits a 2 run homer in the 14th to give Detroit an 8-6 lead, Sox get a run on an error by Renteria, and Nick Swisher hits a walkoff 3 run homer to win the game 10-8.
Someone check on rsvl and make sure he is okay. ;D
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Twins blow a 6-0 lead yesterday. They came back to take the lead tonight and give it up. They just had bases loaded and 2 outs in the 9th down 1 and lined out to end the game. The Twins enjoyed being in first for a good 2 or 3 days. Now it is back to our familiar spot at #2 :(.
Quote from: jbell96 on August 06, 2008, 12:29:30 am
What a finish to the White Sox/Tigers game. White sox rally from a 6-2 deficit to force extra innings, Polanco hits a 2 run homer in the 14th to give Detroit an 8-6 lead, Sox get a run on an error by Renteria, and Nick Swisher hits a walkoff 3 run homer to win the game 10-8.
Someone check on rsvl and make sure he is okay. ;D
Good idea, because Joe Nathan just blew a save and the Mariners rallied to win 8-7.
Josh enjoy the game tomorrow. Get you a Cardinal shirt. :)
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on August 06, 2008, 12:33:22 am
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Twins blow a 6-0 lead yesterday. They came back to take the lead tonight and give it up. They just had bases loaded and 2 outs in the 9th down 1 and lined out to end the game. The Twins enjoyed being in first for a good 2 or 3 days. Now it is back to our familiar spot at #2 :(.
Whoo! Go M's!
I just read the following article and I am steaming.
http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/bird-land/bird-land/2008/08/closing-time-gm-says-cards-cant-just-keep-giving-games-away-like-that/
If Mozeliak wants to complain about blowing saves he needs to look in the mirror. He didn't get anything done at the deadline so he has nobody to blame but himself.
Quote from: jbell96 on August 06, 2008, 04:01:43 amIf Mozeliak wants to complain about blowing saves he needs to look in the mirror. He didn't get anything done at the deadline so he has nobody to blame but himself.
My point exactly.
Anyway, I'm about to head out for St. Louis. I won't have internet access (that I know of) so I'll have to give a full report tomorrow. Go Dodgers!
There was no one to get at the deadline though.
Quote from: jbell96 on August 06, 2008, 04:01:43 am
I just read the following article and I am steaming.
http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/bird-land/bird-land/2008/08/closing-time-gm-says-cards-cant-just-keep-giving-games-away-like-that/
If Mozeliak wants to complain about blowing saves he needs to look in the mirror. He didn't get anything done at the deadline so he has nobody to blame but himself.
Nothing at the deadline could have fixed this.
Yankees/Rangers--Big collision at the plate, Pudge was woozy coming off the field and is out of the game. Man, the Yankees don't need more injuries with Joba going on the DL today too. And I speak as a non-Yankee fan.
Grand slam Pujols followed by homerun Ludwick....Cardinals lead the Dodgers 8-3 in the 4th...both homers right over Manny's head...he didn't even bother to budge...just watched them sail over. If our bullpen manages to some how....some way blow this....then we might as well just hang it up. One would think with a lead like this that wouldn't be a concern...well those people are obviously not Cardinal fans...we know better :-\.
Josh...I pretty much hate your stinking guts for being at Busch Stadium right now watching this. :P Almost makes me sick that I know you're sitting there rooting for the Dodgers just out of dislike for the redbirds...at least you were there to watch your old boy Manny get burned back to back. ;D Someone that hates the Cardinals and takes pleasure in their misery and losses doesn't deserve to be there to watch a great game like this. >:( >:( I can only imagine the atmosphere at Busch right now...I've been there soooo many times but never any great games like this but it's still an amazing ballpark with a great atmosphere...I would kill to be there for a game like this. I leave you with a simple...YOU SUCK. Good day sir!! ::)
I have a bad feeling that the Cardinal bullpen is going to blow another game. :/
Quote from: Infamous on August 06, 2008, 09:50:36 pm
I have a bad feeling that the Cardinal bullpen is going to blow another game. :/
Thompson got this blow well underway but Chris Perez has some what bailed him out...we just need to carry it on into the 9th. Who knows...Perez might be an answered prayer...looking good so far but that was only 2 outs...we'll have to wait and see. Thank God we've had the run support tonight on offense to be able to combat all these runs we've just let score.
It looks like Perez is going to get his shot. Hopefully he'll come through. Nice win tonight. Josh being there and having to sit through it makes it that much sweeter.
Quote from: 1-Adam-12 on August 06, 2008, 07:59:01 pm
Yankees/Rangers--Big collision at the plate, Pudge was woozy coming off the field and is out of the game. Man, the Yankees don't need more injuries with Joba going on the DL today too. And I speak as a non-Yankee fan.
non Yankee fan fits you good. A yankee hater would wish everyone fails. I hope Pudge goes on the DL or at least has to sit out for a while with a concussion.
Just read that Wainwright is going to be coming out of the bullpen on his rehab assignment so it looks like he will be closing when he comes back. I think we should give Perez a shot before making a decision on Wainwright's future.
Quote from: jbell96 on August 07, 2008, 02:32:09 am
Just read that Wainwright is going to be coming out of the bullpen on his rehab assignment so it looks like he will be closing when he comes back. I think we should give Perez a shot before making a decision on Wainwright's future.
Really? Before last nights game Al and Dan were saying that they talked to Tony and that the feeling they got was that Wainwright's position, be it in the rotation or in the bullpen would be judged more on how much the bullpen is able to pull it together over the next couple of weeks before he comes back. And that if they aren't able to get their ducks in a row...which I would guess means that Perez didn't work out and that we were out of options...that in that case Wainwright would probably head back into the bullpen. But that if they were able to pull it together and make some improvements over the next couple of weeks then it would be more likely for him to be put into the rotation. I think that makes sense to me...for them to wait and see what is better in a few weeks instead of trying to make that decision right now.
Stacey,
Here is the article I was talking about.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/DAA89EB84D20B9DA8625749E00107B50?OpenDocument
EDIT: I just read it over again and it says no decision has been made so you are right.
Hey Josh how was the game? ;D
Quote from: jbell96 on August 07, 2008, 06:54:04 am
Stacey,
Here is the article I was talking about.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/DAA89EB84D20B9DA8625749E00107B50?OpenDocument
EDIT: I just read it over again and it says no decision has been made so you are right.
Thanks for the link. It doesn't so much matter to me either way because I know him coming back will mean relief for our bullpen whether it means he's in the bullpen or not. I mean...adding him back into the rotation obviously means he is taking someone's spot...and that leaves room for someone like Pinero, Wellemyer, or Looper the chance to go back into the bullpen and offer some relief. I mean it's not that I think these guys don't deserve to be in the rotation...but they are three guys who are not so well established as starters that they are that far removed from their days of being in the bullpen. I mean it hasn't been that long ago that our bullpen is where you would have found Wellemyer and Looper...and they were great additions. They've also stepped up to the plate as starters also though...and it was just 2 short years ago that Wainwright was in the bullpen and closing for us...anyone remember the last game of the 06' World Series?? So either way it goes...Wainwright's return will help our bullpen...lets just hope his rehab start on Friday goes well so we can get him back as quickly as possible.
What a terrible game for Josh to have to goto. At least it was free for him.
Quote from: jbell96 on August 07, 2008, 08:35:47 am
Hey Josh how was the game? ;D
I hate that the Cardinals won, but it was full of excitement. I got to see Manny hit one again this season, only in a different uniform. I actually called that homer to my friend that went with me. I clapped whenever LA did well, much to the shigrin of the Cardinals fans around me. I kept looking around for somebody, anybody, to high five, but the Dodger fans there weren't in my section. I cheered anyway. Unfortunately the Derek Lowe face indeed did show up. Joel Pineiro pitched a pretty good game (for a change - he sucks) and the worst bullpen in the majors actually held a lead this time.
Around 3:00 yesterday we walked up to the will call place to get our tickets and as I was just standing around, James Loney walked up and signed some autographs for people right next to me. I didn't have anything to sign but oh well. He seemed like a really nice dude though. I was surprised I looked him in the eye though - I always thought he was a little taller than that. All in all I had a good time and now I can cross another stadium off my list.
Cardinals vs Cubs is on right now. Cards up 2-1 in the 5th.
Cubs win 3-2 on an 11th inning single by HENRY BLANCO. lol
Even funnier is both runs in the first 9 innings were bombs by Jim Edmonds. Love it. Zambrano going tomorrow against Wellemeyer.
*bangs head against the computer*
Couple of great defensive plays by Chicago in the game as well. Cards got gunned at the plate twice.
I can't get over how Edmonds turned on the switch once he became a Cub.
Quote from: QF© on August 08, 2008, 09:14:01 pm
I can't get over how Edmonds turned on the switch once he became a Cub.
Amazing what you can do in a smaller park.
True, but you have to get some kind of mental lift by playing there too.
I'm no Cubs fan. But I can appreciate the thrill and magnitude of playing their in Aug with a title on the line.
It isn't the first time we've seen a player turn on the switch when he's with a team that's chasing a pennant.
Quote from: Fukudome on August 08, 2008, 09:12:49 pm
Quote from: SMC on August 08, 2008, 04:52:07 pm
Cubs win 3-2 on an 11th inning single by HENRY BLANCO. lol
Even funnier is both runs in the first 9 innings were bombs by Jim Edmonds. Love it. Zambrano going tomorrow against Wellemeyer.
It's nice to see Edmonds own his former club. Also nice to know the Cardinals aren't going anywhere this year.
Really the Cards aren't going anywhere? Only 2 games back in the Wild Card to a team that has been known to choke down the stretch, look at last year, so I'd hardly say my boys aren't going anywhere.
We can still get 2 out of 3.
Wainwright set to return in the closing role...unless the need lessens in the upcoming days...like for example if Perez racks up some saves over the weekend.
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/baseball/flb/outOfTheBox?page=ootb080808
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on August 09, 2008, 09:00:24 am
Wainwright set to return in the closing role...unless the need lessens in the upcoming days...like for example if Perez racks up some saves over the weekend.
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/baseball/flb/outOfTheBox?page=ootb080808
They just need to give the job to Perez.
Quote from: Ty on August 09, 2008, 09:46:39 am
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on August 09, 2008, 09:00:24 am
Wainwright set to return in the closing role...unless the need lessens in the upcoming days...like for example if Perez racks up some saves over the weekend.
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/baseball/flb/outOfTheBox?page=ootb080808
They just need to give the job to Perez.
I think they should too...and I think they would be glad to do so...I think they just want to see him another couple of times before making that decision after one outing. I think it would make their day to be able to give Perez the role and be able to send Wainwright back into rotation...but they have to make sure Perez is going to pan out first.
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on August 09, 2008, 10:00:03 am
Quote from: Ty on August 09, 2008, 09:46:39 am
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on August 09, 2008, 09:00:24 am
Wainwright set to return in the closing role...unless the need lessens in the upcoming days...like for example if Perez racks up some saves over the weekend.
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/baseball/flb/outOfTheBox?page=ootb080808
They just need to give the job to Perez.
I think they should too...and I think they would be glad to do so...I think they just want to see him another couple of times before making that decision after one outing. I think it would make their day to be able to give Perez the role and be able to send Wainwright back into rotation...but they have to make sure Perez is going to pan out first.
Perez will pan out. He touches high 90's with a slide piece that runs in the upper 80's with a workable change.
Cardinals are up 3-1 in the bottom of the 3rd with solo HR's from Skip and Albert. Derosa hit a solo shot for the Cubs.
And Zambrano hits a solo shot to make it 3-2 Cardinals. (God I hate that frick)
Cardinals now up 9-2 on Troy Glaus' second HR of the day and Zambrano is out of the game. Eat it Zambrano.
Quote from: Fukudome on August 08, 2008, 09:12:49 pm
Quote from: SMC on August 08, 2008, 04:52:07 pm
Cubs win 3-2 on an 11th inning single by HENRY BLANCO. lol
Even funnier is both runs in the first 9 innings were bombs by Jim Edmonds. Love it. Zambrano going tomorrow against Wellemeyer.
It's nice to see Edmonds own his former club.
Looks like Jimmy Drama couldn't handle the responsibility that goes with ownership.
Not to worry .. Cards win 12-3.
And yes, Edmonds returned to the old form that Cardinals fans used to know ... 0-for-4 with 3 whiffs.
Series even - no ground gained unless yall win tomorrow.
Quote from: SMC on August 09, 2008, 07:36:55 pm
Series even - no ground gained unless yall win tomorrow.
I like our chances.
Big Z came through big on the batting going yard, but terrible pitching this go around.
Dice-K was on his game tonight as he went 8 innings giving up just 1 run. The Red Sox beat the White Sox 6-2. Really bad break for Chicago as they lost Jose Contreras for the season. As he went to cover 1st in the 2nd inning he ruptured his achilles tendon and just collapsed. Hate to see that happen to anybody. He was in some obvious pain.
With Boston beating the CWS and the Twins winning, Minnesota is back in first.
I would like to thank the Mariners for sucking balls and blowing the game against the Rays last night. We could've picked up a game on them if you had just done your part and held up a 5-0 lead. I didn't think that was too much to ask when I turned off the tv.
This just in..................Zambrano gave up another homer to the Cardinals. ;D
I have a feeling Carpenter is going to throw another gem today.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 10, 2008, 08:05:50 am
I would like to thank the Mariners for sucking balls and blowing the game against the Rays last night. We could've picked up a game on them if you had just done your part and held up a 5-0 lead. I didn't think that was too much to ask when I turned off the tv.
I have nothing to say.
The Reds are down 8-2 against Houston. We are 1-8 since trading away Griffey. It seems like we have just given up on the season since that trade. We can't score runs and our pitching is struggling mightily. As I have been saying the last 10 years, and as Cub fans have been saying the last 100, "Wait til next year!"
Wait, Griffey was traded? What? To where?
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on August 10, 2008, 02:17:10 pm
Wait, Griffey was traded? What? To where?
Were you in Europe during the trade deadline? He was traded to the White Sox for a couple of prospects. It was really unexpected. I went to bed thinking Dunn might be going to the Rays, and thought Griffey would be staying in Cincy since there hadn't been any rumors in the past 3 weeks. Then I wake up and he is on his way to the South Side
Holy crap. I had no idea.
Yeah, I was pretty shocked myself. It's still weird to me seeing him in that CWS uniform, even after its been almost 2 weeks since it happened.
I'm so sick of losing road games. Chicago beat us 6-5 today. It'd be nice if the Angels could finish off the sweep of New York, and unfortunately I know the Rays have it in the bag facing Seattle.
Minnesota and KC are tied 4-4 in the 10th inning. Come on you Royals!
Cards vs. Cubs @ 7:05 on ESPN.
Carpenter vs. Dempster
Watch it.
Dempster already with 4 K's. Get 10 and a win for me buddy.
I really need a Carpenter win myself.
Quote from: QF© on August 10, 2008, 07:54:30 pm
I really need a Carpenter win myself.
That makes two of us.
Good God Jimmy...you're killing me...
Carpenter was looking good. Then he goes out in the 6th appearing to be hurting. Cubs have added three more runs thus far in the 6th to extend their lead to 4-0. Very sloppy inning for the Cards.
It should be noted that on Aug 10th, the Rays have set a franchise record for most wins in a season at 71.
August 10th !
Cubs win yet another series...yawn.
Carp's injury is a tricep strain. I thought it was the shoulder again. I'm ticked we lost, but I'm glad is injury wasn't as serious as it looked.
Quote from: SMC on August 10, 2008, 11:23:56 pm
Cubs win yet another series...yawn.
And the Cardinals fall 3 games back in the WC to Milwaukee. The division is out of reach for them by now.
I wonder what the deal with Carpenter is though. When he left the game tonight he pointed at his shoulder. Not a good sign considering he's coming off Tommy John surgery.
At least respect what we have done with limited talent this year
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 10, 2008, 11:40:35 pm
Quote from: SMC on August 10, 2008, 11:23:56 pm
Cubs win yet another series...yawn.
And the Cardinals fall 3 games back in the WC to Milwaukee. The division is out of reach for them by now.
I wonder what the deal with Carpenter is though. When he left the game tonight he pointed at his shoulder. Not a good sign considering he's coming off Tommy John surgery.
Josh, it's not a shoulder injury, it is a tricep strain. They had him do his shoulder exercises in the clubhouse and he felt zero discomfort in his throwing shoulder. Hopefully it won't be too serious. We aren't out of this yet. Three games back is nothing, especially since it is only August 11th.
Wainwright will now have to come back to the starting rotation instead of going to the bullpen which is nice because it means Perez will get a chance to close.
Quote from: jbell96 on August 11, 2008, 06:51:57 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 10, 2008, 11:40:35 pm
Quote from: SMC on August 10, 2008, 11:23:56 pm
Cubs win yet another series...yawn.
And the Cardinals fall 3 games back in the WC to Milwaukee. The division is out of reach for them by now.
I wonder what the deal with Carpenter is though. When he left the game tonight he pointed at his shoulder. Not a good sign considering he's coming off Tommy John surgery.
Josh, it's not a shoulder injury, it is a tricep strain. They had him do his shoulder exercises in the clubhouse and he felt zero discomfort in his throwing shoulder. Hopefully it won't be too serious. We aren't out of this yet. Three games back is nothing, especially since it is only August 11th.
Wainwright will now have to come back to the starting rotation instead of going to the bullpen which is nice because it means Perez will get a chance to close.
Oh, definitely. The WC race is within reach for sure but I wouldn't focus on the division much anymore. Hopefully Carpenter's ok though. I hate to see guys get hurt, especially in his case as he's been out for all of last year and most of this year as well.
Speaking of injuries, it's awesome to see Rocco Baldelli back in the game again. He played his first game with the Rays in forever yesterday. He missed almost all of the 05, 06, and 07 seasons with injuries and was diagnosed with a disorder where his muscles didn't heal very fast. Good comeback story.
Quote from: SMC on August 10, 2008, 11:23:56 pm
Cubs win yet another series...yawn.
They sure are racking up a bunch of season series wins. But it's the postseason series that count.
The Reds just sent Adam Dunn to the Dbacks for 3 minor-league prospects.
EDIT: One of the prospects is pitcher Dallas Buck, a 3rd round pick in 2005.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3529966
Adam Dunn cleared waivers?!?!?
Quote from: SMC on August 11, 2008, 02:39:48 pm
Adam Dunn cleared waivers?!?!?
Apparently so. I was surprised too.
He will provide some much needed power to a weak Arizona lineup.
Breaking news: Evan Longoria to the DL with a fractured wrist.
Wow. Tough break for the Rays, especially if this is a long term deal.
Ok...if McClellan can hold on to his 1 run lead looks like we'll get a chance to see Perez in the 9th. Not that I at all prefer this close of a lead...I'd much rather a non-save situation. But it will be another chance to see Perez in action...which I'm fine with so long as we don't blow another one when it's said and done.
Cards win 4-2.
Surprising: they get a save. Not surprising: it wasn't Franklin or Izzy.
JD DREW!!!
John Danks took a no hitter into the 7th for the White Sox, but after a single and a walk JD Drew blasted a 2 run double to give the Red Sox the lead. YES!
Breaking news: Paul Byrd traded to Red Sox for a PTBNL or cash.
I LOVE this move. We get him for next to nothing and Byrd can step in and be our #5 starter and be consistent. Clay Buchholz is struggling, Bartolo Colon is still rehabbing, and Tim Wakefield was just placed on the DL yesterday so it really is great timing. Also I love the fact he is 4-0 in his last 4 starts. Definitely getting him while he's on the upswing.
What I don't get... is why didn't anyone else put in a claim to block him from going to Boston? New York may be waiving the white flag at this point.
Paul Byrd? He's still in the league? Wow.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on August 12, 2008, 05:23:43 pm
Paul Byrd? He's still in the league? Wow.
He went 15-8 last year and was a huge reason Cleveland made it all the way to the ALCS. He's still a good pitcher. I'm extremely happy about this move.
Wow. That's crazy, I had no clue. He was an All-Star what, ten years ago?
Well, he broke in with the Mets in '95. And still going at it.
Holy crap this is INCREDIBLE.
After the 1st inning the Red Sox lead the Rangers 10-0! That's right, we put up a TEN spot in the 1st inning. David Ortiz hit TWO 3 run homers. Pedroia had 2 hits. Drew had a walk and a single. Wow. Go Sox!
This is probably the most ridiculous game of the season so far.
Boston takes a 10-0 lead in the 1st, 12-2 in the 4th.
Texas puts up 8 in the 5th to cut it to 12-10.
Boston just scores 2 more to make it 14-10. I REPEAT WE ARE IN THE 5TH INNING. 14-10!!
This is the most pathetic pitching of all time. On both sides. I am steaming. >:(
Texas takes a 15-14 lead in the 6th. Keep in mind we still have 1/3 of the game left to be played. If you aren't watching, you should be.
I don't like t-ball.
AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! RED SOX TAKE A 19-16 LEAD ON YOUUUUUUUUUK'S 3 RUN BOMB!!!!!
This is freaking amazing. I am in disbelief.
Papelbon coming in for the save.
Red Sox win 19-17.
That was without a doubt the craziest game I have ever seen. One for the ages. If you didn't get to watch, please watch SportsCenter. Absolutely insane. Wow I need to calm down... and my hand hurts from slamming it into the wall when the Rangers took the lead in the 7th... What a game.
lol @ the Yankees blowing a 6-3 lead in the 8th.
Great job Marte and Rivera. The Marte aquisition is really paying dividends!
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 12, 2008, 10:12:42 pm
lol @ the Yankees blowing a 6-3 lead in the 8th.
Great job Marte and Rivera. The Marte aquisition is really paying dividends!
I wish I could have seen the Sox/Rangers game. That is a slow pitch softball score.
It sucks the Yanks came back and won in the 12th thanks to A-Rod of all people. Also, Cards scored 3 in the first and decided not to score the rest of the game and lost 4-3.
Quote from: jbell96 on August 13, 2008, 12:13:29 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 12, 2008, 10:12:42 pm
lol @ the Yankees blowing a 6-3 lead in the 8th.
Great job Marte and Rivera. The Marte aquisition is really paying dividends!
I wish I could have seen the Sox/Rangers game. That is a slow pitch softball score.
It sucks the Yanks came back and won in the 12th thanks to A-Rod of all people. Also, Cards scored 3 in the first and decided not to score the rest of the game and lost 4-3.
Well...Loshe takes the heat for this one though...at least our bullpen didn't blow it. I don't know what has gotten into him his past few starts...it's like as soon as Carpenter walked back into the picture he went into this funk. This isn't the Loshe we've seen all season. I know the rain delay definately didn't help matters as far as the rest of the game but the damage was done before the rain ever happened. He's been our ace all season and we can't afford not to be able to depend on him. Especially with Carpenter already facing missing his next start after just 3 games back. Loshe needs to be on top of his game with us having to face using Brad Thompson or Jamie Garica for Carp's next start. I'm just mentally tired of watching a team continue to fall apart that has beat the odds all season long and proven that they are contenders...but can't secure the easy wins and cut out all the blown saves. If we won half of those blown saves this whole division looks a lot different right now...guaranteed.
Ok...I'm done. Deep breath!
So I got a call today and I now officially have my tickets for the Cardinals vs Marlins series in Stl next month. The tickets are courtesy of Andrew Miller himself. :) :) :)
Quote from: jbell96 on August 13, 2008, 12:13:29 amIt sucks the Yanks came back and won in the 12th thanks to A-Rod of all people.
Yeah it does, although I expected them to win to begin with tonight with Moose on the hill.
At least the Rays lost though. 3 back now.
Hank Steinbrenner is at it again:
"If we don't make it this year, I'm not going to explode," Steinbrenner said Tuesday in a telephone interview. "Injuries are a part of the game, and in 35 years since we've owned the Yankees, I've never seen a rash of injuries like this."
"Chamberlain had become the most dominant starting pitcher in baseball and Wang has been a 19-game winner every year," Steinbrenner said. "You lose those two guys, it's rough. If the Red Sox lost (Josh) Beckett and (Jon) Lester, the whole national media would be crying about it. We lose two guys better than Beckett and Lester and you don't hear anything."
So Wang/Joba are better than Beckett/Lester? LOL
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 13, 2008, 09:58:24 am
Hank Steinbrenner is at it again:
"If we don't make it this year, I'm not going to explode," Steinbrenner said Tuesday in a telephone interview. "Injuries are a part of the game, and in 35 years since we've owned the Yankees, I've never seen a rash of injuries like this."
"Chamberlain had become the most dominant starting pitcher in baseball and Wang has been a 19-game winner every year," Steinbrenner said. "You lose those two guys, it's rough. If the Red Sox lost (Josh) Beckett and (Jon) Lester, the whole national media would be crying about it. We lose two guys better than Beckett and Lester and you don't hear anything."
So Wang/Joba are better than Beckett/Lester? LOL
Not a chance.
Beckett is the best big game pitcher in the league.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 13, 2008, 09:58:24 am"Chamberlain had become the most dominant starting pitcher in baseball[/u] and Wang has been a 19-game winner every year," Steinbrenner said. "You lose those two guys, it's rough. If the Red Sox lost (Josh) Beckett and (Jon) Lester, the whole national media would be crying about it. We lose two guys better than Beckett and Lester and you don't hear anything."[/i]
So Wang/Joba are better than Beckett/Lester? LOL
I bolded and underlined the part I thought was hilarious.
Maybe to the Yankees Wang is their Beckett and Joba their Lester, but no way in heck those 2 are better than Beckett and Lester.
Steinbrenner would be on Celebrity Fit Club 5 if his daddy hadn't given him a job.
My Rays will end up Wild Carding it.
My Braves are better off next year - it's all been downhill since Mazonne left. He was a beast-coach.
Carl Crawford now probably going to the DL for the Rays.
Twins beat the Yankees 4-2.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3533985
Replay on the way. Maybe even within 2 weeks!
Quote from: QF© on August 13, 2008, 08:33:00 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3533985
Replay on the way. Maybe even within 2 weeks!
Not good.
MLB has done fine without it for over a hundred years.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 13, 2008, 09:58:24 am
Hank Steinbrenner is at it again:
"Chamberlain had become the most dominant starting pitcher in baseball
Does Hank have any clue what CC has been doing in Milwaukee over the last month?
Hank has never heard of Milwaukee.
Quote from: RHS on August 13, 2008, 07:05:44 pm
Carl Crawford now probably going to the DL for the Rays.
Dude Carl Crawford is probably done for the year.
With him out and Longoria with a fractured wrist, they are in trouble. Here come the Red Sox. :D
I heard rumors about Ibanez going to Tampa Bay. Does it have any legs? I saw something about it on another board, but I can't remember where, so disregard this post until I find out for sure.
Has anyone mentioned the fact that starting for the Cubs this weekend will be Jeff Samardzija????
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/1105700,samardzija081308.article
You know, this guy:
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/SportSyndicate/Sport%20Syndicate/Notre%20Dame/Receiver_Jeff_Samardzija.jpg)
I'm about to officially through in the towel on the Braves chances. :)
But I still will cheer for every win.
But it does make me ready for football.
8) GO CUBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on August 14, 2008, 02:08:18 pm
Has anyone mentioned the fact that starting for the Cubs this weekend will be Jeff Samardzija????
He's been in their bullpen for a few weeks now. He can bring it. Definitely made the right decision to go the baseball route rather than football.
Red Sox 9, Rangers 0 - 3rd
At this point you almost have to feel sorry for Texas. This just isn't fair. :)
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 14, 2008, 06:47:27 pm
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on August 14, 2008, 02:08:18 pm
Has anyone mentioned the fact that starting for the Cubs this weekend will be Jeff Samardzija????
He's been in their bullpen for a few weeks now. He can bring it. Definitely made the right decision to go the baseball route rather than football.
BTW, the Cubs have decided to go w/ Sean Marshall instead. In the article on MLB.com they also talk about how Samardzija has to wear a pink backpack to the bullpen as a part of rookie hazing. Pretty funny.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 14, 2008, 07:13:53 pm
Red Sox 9, Rangers 0 - 3rd
At this point you almost have to feel sorry for Texas. This just isn't fair. :)
How many have we scored on them? Have we passed 40?
Quote from: RHS on August 14, 2008, 09:09:26 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 14, 2008, 07:13:53 pm
Red Sox 9, Rangers 0 - 3rd
At this point you almost have to feel sorry for Texas. This just isn't fair. :)
How many have we scored on them? Have we passed 40?
Ah, we only won 10-0 tonight. Dice-K pitched 7 shutout innings to improve to 14-2. Good game.
I mean in the series.
Cardinal fans, you'll like this.
http://memphis.redbirds.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080814&content_id=445524&vkey=news_t235&fext=.jsp&sid=t235
Quote from: RHS on August 14, 2008, 10:00:07 pm
I mean in the series.
Then that would be outscoring them 37-21. In 3 games. Crazy.
Alot of times, scoring 7 runs a game over the course of a three game series, would mean sweeping the series or winning two of three. Unfortunately for the Rangers it resulted in them being swept.
Quote from: AB™ on August 14, 2008, 11:54:17 pm
Alot of times, scoring 7 runs a game over the course of a three game series, would mean sweeping the series or winning two of three. Unfortunately for the Rangers it resulted in them being swept.
I had that thought earlier. Must have sucked to be them, but pitching has been their downfall all season.
They've got one on of the most prolific and flat out best offenses in all of baseball.
I know this takes us off subject, but where in the world did Ryan Ludwick come from? 30 HR's and 90 RBI's halfway through August?!? Easily, to me anyways, the biggest surprise in baseball. And the guy is still somewhat flying under the radar. Then again I was gone for 6 weeks and completely out of touch with the outside world so he may not be under the radar. It just doesn't seem like he is being talked about much.
Quote from: AB™ on August 15, 2008, 12:01:23 am
They've got one of the most prolific and flat out best offenses in all of baseball.
It's the #1 offense in baseball. Unfortunately for them, their pitching is like dead last. Just think back to all the good pitchers they have traded away over the last couple of years:
Chris Young = very good
John Danks = stud
Edinson Volquez = stud
Granted they did get Josh Hamilton in return for Volquez, but they got completely ripped off in the Young and Danks deals, essentially getting a bag of balls in return. The fact that they could possibly have a top of the rotation of those 3 is crazy.
The Hamilton/Volquez deal has obviously worked out great for both teams. How the let Chris Young and John Danks slip through the cracks is beyond me. When you have a lineup anchored by Kinsler, Young, Hamilton, and Bradley you are going to score runs. But when the ace of your pitching staff is nothing more than a fourth or fifth best option(or in come cases a middle reliever for some teams)you can't ever expect to contend. Granted, even though they don't have a realistic shot at it they aren't completely out of the wild card race.
Oh, and I have to display some relevant info with everyone.
GB
Tampa Bay 73-47 --
Boston 71-51 3
New York 64-57 9.5
I feel this is worth sharing.
You can thank EG for the feral ling of NYY.
They keep sliding further and further back.
So much for those trades making them contenders for a WS.
Quote from: RHS on August 15, 2008, 12:16:59 am
They keep sliding further and further back.
So much for those trades making them contenders for a WS.
I'm still convinced Eddie posted that they would win the world series to jinx them.
The Yankees are done. Now if the Cardinals miss out I'll be as pleased as possible knowing the Braves won't be in the playoffs either.
Quote from: jbell96 on August 15, 2008, 12:20:15 am
I'm still convinced Eddie posted that they would win the world series to jinx them.
I think Eddie was being dead serious, but it's been working to perfection so far.
Word is Joba could be shut down for the rest of the season as well. If they do that they are basically waiving the white flag.
QuoteJoba Chamberlain flew back from Florida today. He will play catch on Friday afternoon before the game. "It's day-by-day," said Brian Cashman. "We're going to be careful with him. It's certainly possible he won't pitch again this season. But what he has shouldn't preclude that."
Quote from: AB™ on August 15, 2008, 12:20:40 am
The Yankees are done. Now if the Cardinals miss out I'll be as pleased as possible knowing the Braves won't be in the playoffs either.
Well in that case, at least you can hop on board 100% and cheer on America's team, the defending champion Boston Red Sox.
Americas team? Har.
If Atlanta isn't in it than Boston is who I always pull for. Granted they are there too. Losing Lowell hurts them a little but Jed Lowrie had a great series against the Rangers. Then again who didn't have a good series against Texas? Basically the Sox just took 27 innings of batting practice in this series.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 15, 2008, 12:25:19 am
Quote from: jbell96 on August 15, 2008, 12:20:15 am
I'm still convinced Eddie posted that they would win the world series to jinx them.
I think Eddie was being dead serious, but it's been working to perfection so far.
Word is Joba could be shut down for the rest of the season as well. If they do that they are basically waiving the white flag.
QuoteJoba Chamberlain flew back from Florida today. He will play catch on Friday afternoon before the game. “It’s day-by-day,” said Brian Cashman. “We’re going to be careful with him. It’s certainly possible he won’t pitch again this season. But what he has shouldn’t preclude that.”
I expect the Yankees will go after Sabathia pretty hard in the off season.
On Sabathia. How amazing would it be if he won out in the rest of his starts or at least didn't get any losses and he won the NL Cy Young. I still don't see how Brandon Webb won't win it if he continues to pitch as well as he has all season.
Quote from: AB™ on August 15, 2008, 12:29:11 am
Losing Lowell hurts them a little
Right now it's not as big of a deal as it normally would be. Lowell has been slumping BAD and really needs to time off to get healthy again. He will be back for the stretch run. We will be fine.
I hope the Rays win it this year, so I can be there in October to watch. I can't imagine the Trop in October, they'll probably have to cancel some concerts if the Rays make it that far.
Quote from: AB™ on August 15, 2008, 12:32:49 am
I expect the Yankees will go after Sabathia pretty hard in the off season.
On Sabathia. How amazing would it be if he won out in the rest of his starts or at least didn't get any losses and he won the NL Cy Young. I still don't see how Brandon Webb won't win it if he continues to pitch as well as he has all season.
I would expect Texas to go after Sabathia hard too. That's who needs him most.
I think Webb should get the NL Cy Young, but Sabathia is definitely making a run. Basically what happened with Sabathia is that he's still the same pitcher he was in the AL, only the lineups are different in the NL (weaker). I'm sure enjoying the dominance as he's on my fantasy team.
lol @ the Yankees. They get the tying run on 1st in the bottom of the 9th with nobody out, and rookie Justin Christian pinch runs and gets PICKED OFF. New York loaded the bases with 2 out but Jason Giambi flew out to end it. Hahahaha.
Boston/Toronto got rained out tonight.
Cards get another win tonight.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 15, 2008, 11:10:41 pm
Cards get another win tonight.
Only two games out of the Wild Card now.
With the pitching of Garcia, McClellan, and Perez, I think we can put Wainwright back into the rotation instead of bringing him back to close out ball games.
Once he gets back, we'll have Lohse, Wainwright, Carpenter, Wellemeyer, and Looper headed down the stretch. Thompson will move back into the bullpen and will be able to provide long relief.
Only thing we're really lacking at this point is a LOOGY. Flores has filled that role in the past but he's pitching horrendous at this point. Also, LaRussa loves having 2 or even 3 lefties out of the bullpen so it will be interesting to see how the 25 man roster shakes out due to the abundance of right handed relievers.
I personally think the Cards are going to make a very strong push for the Wild Card spot.
Liriano got a nice win last night. He is 3-0 since being back in the majors. I watched the White Sox blow a lead last night to Oakland and lose. That was pretty fun to watch. Today the Twins blew a 5 run lead, which isn't unusual, but they scored in the bottom of the 9th.
The Twins have one more home game vs the Mariners, than a series against Oakland at home. The bad news is we have 24 of our last 36 on the road. The good news is most on the road are against the weaker teams and 2 home series are against KC and 1 is against CWS.
Wow. The Brewers are having a 9th inning meltdown out in LA. After walking a man to lead off the inning, JJ Hardy botched a double play ball and let it go right through his legs. Manny hit a sac fly to tie it 3-3 and LA has the winning run on 3rd with 2 outs.
Edit: Brewers win in 10.
Cards win again 9-3. Piniero moves to 3-0 in August, Ludwick hits his 31st homer, & Pujols added to dingers of his own. One thing I've noticed is that Lopez has played really well since coming over from Washington. Ever since we got him Izturis has really stepped up his game on offense. Gotta love guys fighting for playing time.
Cards need to win tomorrow to finish off the 10 game road trip at 7-3. Our starting rotation has really stepped it up as of late. Going deeper into games has taken some stress off the bullpen and it has really showed over the past week.
Those freaking Blue Jays.
Cards lost to the Reds, but the Brewers lost to the Dodgers, so we didn't lose any ground in the WC. We get two well deserved days off this week and have the Pirates & Braves coming to town.
Quote from: jbell96 on August 17, 2008, 11:25:55 pm
Cards lost to the Reds, but the Brewers lost to the Dodgers, so we didn't lose any ground in the WC. We get two well deserved days off this week and have the Pirates & Braves coming to town.
Wainwright is throwing a bullpen session tomorrow at Busch and Carpenter is scheduled to some flat ground work.
Duncan said Wainwright's role depends largely on how well Carpenter throws tomorrow.
Maddux LA Bound (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3541723)
Red Sox beat the Orioles tonight 6-3. Jason Bay hit 2 huge HR's and drove in 3. Jon Lester continues to be our best SP all year long getting the win.
Couple that with the Twins 3-2 loss to the A's and now we're 1 1/2 up on them in the WC race.
I can't even begin to describe how pathetic it is that St. Louis is losing a 1-0 game to a Pittsburgh team that doesn't feature Jason Bay or Xavier Nady.
CC Sabathia = monster in the NL.
What a great night.
Red Sox win.
Yankees lose.
The freaking Angels had to have an 8th inning meltdown and blow their lead at the Rays, but we didn't lose any ground on them. New York is now 11 out in the East. :D
Cubs win
Brewers lose
Cards lose
:)
This just in ... apparently Isringhausen is out for the rest of the season.
And Cardinals fans breathe a sigh of relief ....
Quote from: SouthpawSensation on August 19, 2008, 11:02:19 pm
This just in ... apparently Isringhausen is out for the rest of the season.
And Cardinals fans breathe a sigh of relief ....
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
That means I can't use this:
(http://www.renewable-energy-today.co.uk/liguid-gas-tanker.jpg)
Quote from: SouthpawSensation on August 19, 2008, 11:02:19 pm
This just in ... apparently Isringhausen is out for the rest of the season.
And Cardinals fans breathe a sigh of relief ....
Last time that happened we won a World Series so let's hope history repeats itself.
BTW, how do we not score a run of Ian Snell? The guy was 4-10 with an ERA near six and we couldn't get one run off him! Molina also dropped a throw on a force play at home that could have led to a double play and gotten us out of the inning and possibly given us a chance to tie it in the 9th.
Quote from: RHS on August 19, 2008, 11:03:29 pm
Quote from: SouthpawSensation on August 19, 2008, 11:02:19 pm
This just in ... apparently Isringhausen is out for the rest of the season.
And Cardinals fans breathe a sigh of relief ....
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
That means I can't use this:
(http://www.renewable-energy-today.co.uk/liguid-gas-tanker.jpg)
It's ok Kirk. The rest of their bullpen is still there. And they still suck.
You can use that for any of them now that Izzy's out for the year. ;)
Quote from: SouthpawSensation on August 19, 2008, 11:02:19 pm
This just in ... apparently Isringhausen is out for the rest of the season.
And Cardinals fans breathe a sigh of relief ....
If thats true then you can consider this the last the Cardinals have seen of good ol' Izzy, cause mark my words...he WON'T be a Cardinal next season.
It's not just Izzy. The Cards pen has been burning down Busch all season. Perez and Franklin and the rest of them have done their share of blowing leads.
Quote from: SMC on August 20, 2008, 09:48:14 am
It's not just Izzy. The Cards pen has been burning down Busch all season. Perez and Franklin and the rest of them have done their share of blowing leads.
Yeah, that's my point. The rest of their 'pen is still horrible. Sure Izzy is done, but the same guys who have had meltdown upon meltdown this season are all still there. I wouldn't trust any of them with a lead.
We have quite a few rookies in the bullpen so it is expected that they will have their ups and downs. McClellan has been stellar and Perez seems to be settling in to the closer role nicely. Oh and Wainwright will be starting against Atlanta on Friday which means he'll be pitching in the big 2 games series with the Brewers next week.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3545040
What a bunch of crap. Volquez should have been ejected after he hit Molina when both benches had been warned. If Lohse gets suspended then Volquez should as well.
Quote from: jbell96 on August 21, 2008, 09:04:41 am
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3545040
What a bunch of crap. Volquez should have been ejected after he hit Molina when both benches had been warned. If Lohse gets suspended then Volquez should as well.
No doubt. I can't believe MLB suspends players for throwing inside. That's been part of the game since the mid 1800's.
I tried posting this yesterday but my session kept on timing out. With Carp's productive throwing session, we should head down the stretch with two legitimate ace's, Carpenter and Wainwright. I'm more than content with Lohse, Looper, and Wellemeyer as 3/4/5. As jbell said, McClellan has been amazing and Perez is settling into the closer role quite nice. Franklin and Springer are too good to not be productive down the stretch. The one thing I see the bullpen lacking down the stretch is a LOOGY. Flores is decent but not great. Garcia is better suited for starting, which he will be doing next year.
I really wish Rasmus, if healthy, would get the call to log some quite a bit of time in left. He can provide more punch than Lopez or Skippy. Plus, the kid is the future of our offense and is more than able to handle major league pitching.
The Twins pulled within 1/2 a game of the CWS last night and are now tied for the lead in the wildcard race. I hope we can keep up the way we have been playing. If we do, I really feel we will make the playoffs one way or another.
We beat the Angels in 12 innings last night after Punto hit a triple off Torii's glove. Then, Denard Span hit one down the third base line. We have a lot of young talent that seem to keep delivering. I would be willing to bet that if someone on this board was to watch a Twins' game that almost all of you wouldn't recognize 4 or 5 names in our lineup. We have a ton of players that most teams would consider prospects in their system, but they keep doing the right things. Up until this season I had no idea who Carlos Gomez, Denard Span, or Alexi Casilla were. Now they are part of our everyday lineup when healthy. I hadn't really heard much about Brendan Harris either, but he is one our best hitters this season. I thought this year was going to be a disaster, but I think this is my favorite Twins team to follow since we had David Ortiz, Torii Hunter, Shannon Stewart, Jacque Jones, Doug Mientkiewicz, Christian Guzman, and all of those players.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on August 22, 2008, 10:25:31 am
The Twins pulled within 1/2 a game of the CWS last night
I watched that game from the 7th inning on. What a great ballgame.
Minnesota just started a 14 game road trip though, so it'll be interesting to see how they hold up. They have 23 of their next 30 away from home and only 12 remaining home games for the year. They're a fun team to watch though.
Some big series around the AL tonight:
Boston 8, Toronto 4 - Final
New York 9, Baltimore 4 - Final
Tampa Bay 9, Chicago 4 - Final
Minnesota 9, LAA 0 - Final
The Blue Jays have really been coming on strong lately. 7-3 in their last 10 games and ever since Cito Gaston was hired, they've played well. Toronto is a playoff team in the NL.
Here we go...Wainwright's taking the mound for his first start back. Lets go Wainwright...GO STL!
In other news, we caught a terrible break today. Found out JD Drew has a herniated disk in his back which likely will result in a trip to the DL. We did NOT need this right now. Hopefully he can get healthy soon because we need his bat and defense bad.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 22, 2008, 12:32:06 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on August 22, 2008, 10:25:31 am
The Twins pulled within 1/2 a game of the CWS last night
I watched that game from the 7th inning on. What a great ballgame.
Minnesota just started a 14 game road trip though, so it'll be interesting to see how they hold up. They have 23 of their next 30 away from home and only 12 remaining home games for the year. They're a fun team to watch though.
Yeah, that is what makes me worry. Luckily most of the games remaining on the road aren't against too good of teams. If we had to play this many games on the road I would want it to be against some of the teams we have. We will really be tested this last stretch. If we can come out ahead of Boston or CWS in the last stretch I will really like our chances advancing at least past the first round in the playoffs this year.
Cards up 5-0 on the Braves and Adam is dealing.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 22, 2008, 08:32:37 pm
Cards up 5-0 on the Braves and Adam is dealing.
This has nothing to do with the Cardinals, but man, the Braves really, REALLY, suck.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on August 22, 2008, 08:32:37 pm
Cards up 5-0 on the Braves and Adam is dealing.
12-1 now in the 6th.
Through 6, Wainwright has given up 5 hits and one earned run. He definitely looks like the Wainwright we all have come to know.
He's keep the ball on the ground (10/4 GO/AO) and is 3-4 at the plate with a RBI.
Twins take a 3-0 lead going into the bottom of the 5th. The White Sox are currently losing 7-4. If both scores hold up the Twins will regain the lead in the Central.
Twins win 9-0. That was a dominating performance by Glen Perkins.
The Rays win again, beating the White Sox 9-4. They are incredible.
Is it just me, or have the Cardinals scored again?????
The White Sox blew a 3 run lead and end up losing to Tampa Bay.
Quote from: SouthpawSensation on August 23, 2008, 12:52:12 pm
Is it just me, or have the Cardinals scored again?????
Need more runs today didn't they? :)
Quote from: QF© on August 23, 2008, 07:24:51 pm
Quote from: SouthpawSensation on August 23, 2008, 12:52:12 pm
Is it just me, or have the Cardinals scored again?????
Need more runs today didn't they? :)
The theme of the Braves season.
Angels are having a big inning right now. They just scored 4 runs in the 3rd to go up 4-0. I am not too worried yet just because our offense has been pretty explosive and the game is far from over. It would be nice to get a win today because it would put us 1 1/2 games ahead.
Twins continue to battle they were down 6-1 going into the 5th and they start out the 5th with 2 base hits and a hit by pitch. Span hits a sac fly and Mauer just hit a 2 run double. We have runners on 3rd and 2nd with 1 out and Morneau up. We are down 6-4. I figure they will walk Morneau.
Wow. Pierzensky just ran into a run down in the 10th inning. AJ stuck his arm out to try and draw contact with another player to make it look like he was pushed. He made a step toward the other player going out of his way to make contact. AJ fell down and they called him safe after he was tagged allowing him to go to second and have 2 runners on.
Now, they are moving him to third.
That is probably the worst call I have seen this year and will probably ultimately cost Tampa Bay the game. That is a pathetic call. Hopefully these umpires get suspended or something. Even the broadcasters are hounding the umpire.
CWS wins after hitting a single in the bottom of the 10th. The game ball goes to the umpires.
Red Sox got a HUGE extra inning win today in Toronto, beating the Blue Jays 6-5. Jed Lowrie hit a solo bomb and we held them off in the bottom of the 11th. Papelbon got the win. I'm proud of this 4-2 road trip so far. 3 in New York next is gonna be TOUGH, especially with Beckett missing the series.
The White Sox just got a walk off single to beat the Rays 6-5.
Yankees leading the Twins 8-7 heading to the 9th. Looks like they will hold on for the W.
The Twins are beating the Angels (again) 3-1 in the 7th. Come on Angels!
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on August 24, 2008, 04:15:16 pm
Wow. Pierzensky just ran into a run down in the 10th inning. AJ stuck his arm out to try and draw contact with another player to make it look like he was pushed. He made a step toward the other player going out of his way to make contact. AJ fell down and they called him safe after he was tagged allowing him to go to second and have 2 runners on.
Now, they are moving him to third.
That is probably the worst call I have seen this year and will probably ultimately cost Tampa Bay the game. That is a pathetic call. Hopefully these umpires get suspended or something. Even the broadcasters are hounding the umpire.
That was a pathetic call. One of the worst I've seen in a long time. He just fell down.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 24, 2008, 04:22:06 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on August 24, 2008, 04:15:16 pm
Wow. Pierzensky just ran into a run down in the 10th inning. AJ stuck his arm out to try and draw contact with another player to make it look like he was pushed. He made a step toward the other player going out of his way to make contact. AJ fell down and they called him safe after he was tagged allowing him to go to second and have 2 runners on.
Now, they are moving him to third.
That is probably the worst call I have seen this year and will probably ultimately cost Tampa Bay the game. That is a pathetic call. Hopefully these umpires get suspended or something. Even the broadcasters are hounding the umpire.
That was a pathetic call. One of the worst I've seen in a long time. He just fell down.
Glad an unbiased person saw it and agrees. I am actually angry about it since the outcome of the game would have likely been different and Twins could have possibly gone up 1 1/2 on CWS. I feel pretty confident it would have gone into another inning since there would have been 2 outs 1 Dye on first and Konerko at the plate. Oh well. It doesn't matter as long as the Twins take care of business.
AJ is a punk, that is all there is to it. The umpire that made the call is the same one who screwed the Angels in the 2005 ALCS when AJ was up. The sad thing is that if BJ Upton hadn't been so casual getting the ball back into the infield on the previous play, it would have been a double play ball instead of AJ being on 2nd.
Quote from: jbell96 on August 25, 2008, 03:25:33 am
AJ is a punk, that is all there is to it. The umpire that made the call is the same one who screwed the Angels in the 2005 ALCS when AJ was up. The sad thing is that if BJ Upton hadn't been so casual getting the ball back into the infield on the previous play, it would have been a double play ball instead of AJ being on 2nd.
Possibly, but I am not so sure AJ wouldn't still be at 2nd. AJ timed it perfectly and was running as soon as Upton caught the ball. It would have been close though. I guess it doesn't matter now though. Thanks to that horrible call and a big Twins meltdown we are now in 2nd place by 1/2 a game.
The greatest rivalry in all of sports is about to get underway. Red Sox @ Yankees in the final series to ever be played between the two teams in Yankee Stadium. I would love to take 2 of 3 this week, but I think the most likely scenario is that New York wins 2 of 3 being at home.
Go Sox.
Damon lead off with a homer.
I expected us to lose when I saw Wakefield starting.
Sox getting Kotsay?
Seems like it. Braves continue to be a seller.
Kotsay (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3554901)
Oh how I love watching some classic A-Rod! He really had a stellar performance tonight. A-Rod went 0-5, grounded into 2 double plays (one with the bases loaded in the 7th), made an error, and struck out to end the game. Good times.
Meanwhile the Red Sox won 7-3. Big to take the first game of the series.
Quote from: QF© on August 26, 2008, 07:13:40 pm
Sox getting Kotsay?
Seems like it. Braves continue to be a seller.
Kotsay (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3554901)
He'd be a nice pickup with Drew battling his back injury. We wouldn't have to give up much either. I'm all for it.
I like Kotsay too. Another guy that rebounded down there. Drew owes a lot to his one season in ATL. But I digress.
The Brew Crew got nasty on STL tonight. And the Cubs offense continues to dominate. Cards better get busy if they want in the playoffs.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 26, 2008, 10:03:32 pmMeanwhile the Red Sox won 7-3. Big to take the first game of the series.
Wakefield must have been on tonight.
How fitting that the Sox are going to drive the death nail into the Yankee season, AT Yankee Stadium, in the old park's final season.
Quote from: SMC on August 26, 2008, 10:46:59 pm
How fitting that the Sox are going to drive the death nail into the Yankee season, AT Yankee Stadium, in the old park's final season.
A sweep would be magnificent, but I'm not holding my breath.
Good lord, the most important game of the season so far and we don't show up. Losing 12-0 at home is inexusable. Hopefully Wainwright will be on tomorrow and help us get a split.
Quote from: RHS on August 26, 2008, 10:41:30 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 26, 2008, 10:03:32 pmMeanwhile the Red Sox won 7-3. Big to take the first game of the series.
Wakefield must have been on tonight.
Wakefield only went the first 5, but he did a solid job. We ended up using Lopez, Manny D, Okajima, and Papelbon in relief.
If we can take 1 of these next 2 I will be THRILLED. That would put us at 6-3 on this 9 game road trip.
Oh, and the Mariners just beat the Twins again 3-2 so our WC lead is extended to 2 1/2 games.
Thanks Seattle. We appreciate your efforts. :)
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 27, 2008, 12:08:44 am
Oh, and the Mariners just beat the Twins again 3-2 so our WC lead is extended to 2 1/2 games.
Thanks Seattle. We appreciate your efforts. :)
Your welcome. Haha.
Who are the young outfielder prospects for the braves I keep hearing about?
DUSTIN FREAKING PEDROIA!
11-2.
yankees sending The House that Ruth built out in grand fashion.
(http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/happy/happy0007.gif) @ the Yankee$
Brewers up 3-1 on the Cards in the 7th. Cubs already won today. I was hoping the Cards and Brewers would split.
The Yankees... suck. No, really.
Red Sox beat the hell out of New York once again. This is pretty fun.
Pedroia and Bay went off tonight. Paul Byrd came up huge and pitched 2 really solid innings. Going for the sweep tomorrow to close out that dump of a stadium.
Quote from: SMC on August 27, 2008, 09:23:45 pm
I was hoping the Cards and Brewers would split.
Cards come back to win 5-3. Big for them to split the series and not get swept at home.
They're still missing the playoffs though. 8)
I wouldn't be so smug Josh. It's not like the Sox have the wild card locked up. 8)
Good job you Redbirds. Cubs gain a game on both STL and MIL over the 2 days. Sweet.
As long as you Cubbies return the favor and beat up on the Brewers down the stretch to help us gain ground I have no problem. 8)
Here's updated standings for anyone who hasn't been following very closely (like :))
AL
EAST
Tampa: 80-51
Boston: 77-55
Yankees: 70-62
CENTRAL
White Sox: 76-57
Minnesota: 75-58
WEST
Anaheim: 80-52
WILD CARD
Boston
Minnesota (-2.5)
Yankees (-7)
Blue Jays (-9)
NL
EAST
Mets: 74-60
Phillies: 73-60
Florida: 68-65
CENTRAL
Cubs: 83-50
Milwaukee: 77-56
St. Louis: 74-60
WEST
Arizona: 68-65
Los Angeles: 65-68
Colorado: 63-72
WILD CARD
Milwaukee
St. Louis (-3.5)
Philadelphia (-4)
Florida (-9)
So there's a chance we could see the following:
Tampa, Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Philadelphia. Hooray small markets! Lol.
BTW. It's almost September and the two best records in baseball belong to the Devil Rays and the Cubs. Excuse me while I head to the fallout shelter.
Jon Lester is a BEAST. 6 shutout innings so far at New York today with 7 K's. Fantastic.
A-Rod on the other hand, is 0-3 with 2 K's, and he just popped up with runners on 1st/3rd with 1 out. This is so freaking hilarious.
Come on Sox. Finish this one out and put the nail in the coffin.
RM you left off the Braves! :-[
Speaking of the Braves, Kotsay is fitting right in. He had a nice double in his first AB in a Sox uniform. He is going to play a lot because it looks like JD's herniated disk isn't getting any better.
At least I can enjoy the NYY's failures.
2-0 Boston headed to the bottom of the 7th.
And I have to leave for work in 20 minutes. >:(
Don't worry about my Cubs coming back to win 6-4 tonight against the Phillies, thanks to a pinch hit home run tonight from Mike Fontenot and then a grand slam from Aramis Ramirez, both in the bottom of the 8th when the Cubs entered trailing 4-1.
Hated to see the Yankees come back and win today, but I'm ecstatic about going 6-3 on our 9 game road trip and especially taking 2 of 3 in New York.
The Yankees are done anyway. If the Red Sox went 15-14 over their last 29 games, the Yankees would have to go 21-8 just to tie us. And that my friends, ain't happening.
I'm really getting worried about Drew and Beckett though. JD is on the DL and Beckett's start tomorrow got pushed back again so he's going to see Dr. James Andrews. If those two can't get back to health this season, we don't have a very good chance of winning the World Series.
Quote from: Chris Murphy on August 28, 2008, 10:31:08 pm
Don't worry about my Cubs coming back to win 6-4 tonight against the Phillies, thanks to a pinch hit home run tonight from Mike Fontenot and then a grand slam from Aramis Ramirez, both in the bottom of the 8th when the Cubs entered trailing 4-1.
Chris, don't you just love this team. The most lethal offensive Cub team ever, cause we assembled a lineup of 7 true PROFESSIONAL hitters, and Alfonso Soriano. Those 7 guys work pitchers hard, take pitches they can't do anything with, get on base, and drive the ball. Kosuke Fukudome was the best thing to ever happen to our team. Even though he's kinda hit the wall, his approach at the plate rubbed off on previous free swingers (namely DeRo and Aramis) and completely changed the way we play.
I want to tie Dusty Baker up and make him watch tapes of the 08 Cubs hitting. 84-50, I love it.
I was at Yankee Stadium today, it was awesome.
Quote from: Rizzo on August 28, 2008, 10:59:54 pm
I was at Yankee Stadium today, it was awesome.
Hey, just be glad you didn't get swept out of your own park. :)
A-Rod with another stellar performance.
I think the fraud got booed harder today than the other night.
Wish we could have swept them to send that place out in style.
Quote from: Rizzo on August 28, 2008, 10:59:54 pm
I was at Yankee Stadium today, it was awesome.
There's nothing in the world like a baseball game at Yankee Stadium.
Quote from: RHS on August 28, 2008, 11:11:25 pm
Wish we could have swept them to send that place out in style.
It'll go out in style anyway, with all the lights turned off and stands empty in October.
Quote from: Infamous on August 28, 2008, 11:11:54 pm
Quote from: Rizzo on August 28, 2008, 10:59:54 pm
I was at Yankee Stadium today, it was awesome.
There's nothing in the world like a baseball game at Yankee Stadium.
I found 2 better. One in Fenway and another in Wrigley.
Quote from: Infamous on August 28, 2008, 11:11:54 pm
Quote from: Rizzo on August 28, 2008, 10:59:54 pm
I was at Yankee Stadium today, it was awesome.
There's nothing in the world like a baseball game at Yankee Stadium.
Especially when they lose. The only game I ever went to at Yankee Stadium was a Yankee loss to Seattle.
Quote from: jbell96 on August 29, 2008, 12:59:37 amEspecially when they lose. The only game I ever went to at Yankee Stadium was a Yankee loss to Seattle.
Amen. When my dad and I went they lost to the Braves.
Quote from: SMC on August 28, 2008, 10:55:25 pm
Quote from: Chris Murphy on August 28, 2008, 10:31:08 pm
Don't worry about my Cubs coming back to win 6-4 tonight against the Phillies, thanks to a pinch hit home run tonight from Mike Fontenot and then a grand slam from Aramis Ramirez, both in the bottom of the 8th when the Cubs entered trailing 4-1.
Chris, don't you just love this team. The most lethal offensive Cub team ever, cause we assembled a lineup of 7 true PROFESSIONAL hitters, and Alfonso Soriano. Those 7 guys work pitchers hard, take pitches they can't do anything with, get on base, and drive the ball. Kosuke Fukudome was the best thing to ever happen to our team. Even though he's kinda hit the wall, his approach at the plate rubbed off on previous free swingers (namely DeRo and Aramis) and completely changed the way we play.
I want to tie Dusty Baker up and make him watch tapes of the 08 Cubs hitting. 84-50, I love it.
I agree, Ryan. This is the most complete Cubs team I've seen in a long time. It's amazing to see the turnaround in our hitting from the past four years to this year in just one offseason. And our pitching is worlds better now that old Lizard face isn't ruining their arms. If we keep playing the way we're playing right now, we'll be very tough to beat in the postseason.
My only concern is the bullpen. Hopefully Marmol will be at his early season form but I just don't trust Wood in the 9th inning with a small lead.
Red Sox vs White Sox just getting underway from Fenway.
Jacoby Ellsbury just made one of the greatest catches of the entire season to rob Orlando Cabrera of a triple on the first pitch of the game. Holy crap. That was amazing. Lets go Sox.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 29, 2008, 06:10:34 pm
Red Sox vs White Sox just getting underway from Fenway.
Jacoby Ellsbury just made one of the greatest catches of the entire season to rob Orlando Cabrera of a triple on the first pitch of the game. Holy crap. That was amazing. Lets go Sox.
Which one? :)
Just kidding. This is a good series for the Twins. If the Twins lose they don't have to worry about dropping in both the WC and the AL Central race because one of them will be losing too.
WOW that was a great performance from Dice-k tonight.
8 innings, 8 K's, 2 hits, 0 runs
Red Sox take care of business and win 8-0. Good win guys.
Quote from: SMC on August 29, 2008, 05:45:02 pm
My only concern is the bullpen. Hopefully Marmol will be at his early season form but I just don't trust Wood in the 9th inning with a small lead.
Woody looked pretty decent against Rollins, Utley, Burrell and Howard last night in a 2 run game.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on August 29, 2008, 09:02:33 pm
WOW that was a great performance from Dice-k tonight.
8 innings, 8 K's, 2 hits, 0 runs
Red Sox take care of business and win 8-0. Good win guys.
Hopefully you guys can do that to the White Sox a few more times.
The Twins are currently up 2-0 and have the bases loaded with 0 outs in the 2nd.
Quote from: Jacques Grande on August 29, 2008, 09:20:55 pm
Quote from: SMC on August 29, 2008, 05:45:02 pm
My only concern is the bullpen. Hopefully Marmol will be at his early season form but I just don't trust Wood in the 9th inning with a small lead.
Woody looked pretty decent against Rollins, Utley, Burrell and Howard last night in a 2 run game.
Playoffs is a different monster. Brad Lidge was unhittable that one year and we all know that Albert Pujols set his career back like 3 years.
Quote from: SMC on August 29, 2008, 11:36:10 pm
Quote from: Jacques Grande on August 29, 2008, 09:20:55 pm
Quote from: SMC on August 29, 2008, 05:45:02 pm
My only concern is the bullpen. Hopefully Marmol will be at his early season form but I just don't trust Wood in the 9th inning with a small lead.
Woody looked pretty decent against Rollins, Utley, Burrell and Howard last night in a 2 run game.
Playoffs is a different monster. Brad Lidge was unhittable that one year and we all know that Albert Pujols set his career back like 3 years.
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Joe Nathan comes in up 2-1 in the 9th. He makes a throwing error and Oakland comes back to win 3-2. We have blown so many leads this year it is ridiculous. We have blown some pretty big leads too. This team can be so good at times, but sometimes their youth comes out and they are so frustrating. We had this game won and were going to take a 1/2 game lead and blow it.
Sabathia throws a one-hitter and the Brewers are appealing to have the infield single in the 5th changed to an error.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=280831123
Sabathia has been a monster in the NL.
Am I the only person here that is thinking that CC Sabathia is the NL MVP this year? In a year with no clear cut favorite, he has meant the world to the brewers. As wierd as this sounds this would be the way I vote for awards in the NL
Rookie of the Year-Geovany Soto(cubs)
Cy Young winner-Brandon Webb(Dbacks)
MVP- CC Sabathia(Brewers)
Quote from: RHS on August 31, 2008, 11:12:15 pm
Sabathia has been a monster in the NL.
He got screwed out of a no hitter. I just saw the replay and that was an error when he tried to barehand that slow chopper. If he fields it cleanly the guy is out at first. I hate the Brewers, but I don't like seeing a pitcher lose a no hitter because of an error in judgement by the scorekeeper.
Quote from: superfan on August 31, 2008, 11:24:54 pm
Am I the only person here that is thinking that CC Sabathia is the NL MVP this year? In a year with no clear cut favorite, he has meant the world to the brewers. As wierd as this sounds this would be the way I vote for awards in the NL
Rookie of the Year-Geovany Soto(cubs)
Cy Young winner-Brandon Webb(Dbacks)
MVP- CC Sabathia(Brewers)
No way. The MVP is probably Pujols's to lose. He's batting .364 with 29 HR's and 89 RBI. He has a .468 OBP and a .643 SLG%. Chase Utley is in the hunt as well.
Sabathia will and should receive votes for the Cy Young award but I feel that is Brandon Webb's to lose.
Quote from: AB™ on September 01, 2008, 02:10:54 pm
Quote from: superfan on August 31, 2008, 11:24:54 pm
Am I the only person here that is thinking that CC Sabathia is the NL MVP this year? In a year with no clear cut favorite, he has meant the world to the brewers. As wierd as this sounds this would be the way I vote for awards in the NL
Rookie of the Year-Geovany Soto(cubs)
Cy Young winner-Brandon Webb(Dbacks)
MVP- CC Sabathia(Brewers)
No way. The MVP is probably Pujols's to lose. He's batting .364 with 29 HR's and 89 RBI. He has a .468 OBP and a .643 SLG%. Chase Utley is in the hunt as well.
Sabathia will and should receive votes for the Cy Young award but I feel that is Brandon Webb's to lose.
Pujols is the best player in the game, hands down. Ask any NL manager or catcher.
Brad Ausmus said that Pujols routinely hits balls out of the park that 99% of people hit softly to the second baseman.
Quote from: Ty on September 01, 2008, 02:55:48 pm
Quote from: AB™ on September 01, 2008, 02:10:54 pm
Quote from: superfan on August 31, 2008, 11:24:54 pm
Am I the only person here that is thinking that CC Sabathia is the NL MVP this year? In a year with no clear cut favorite, he has meant the world to the brewers. As wierd as this sounds this would be the way I vote for awards in the NL
Rookie of the Year-Geovany Soto(cubs)
Cy Young winner-Brandon Webb(Dbacks)
MVP- CC Sabathia(Brewers)
No way. The MVP is probably Pujols's to lose. He's batting .364 with 29 HR's and 89 RBI. He has a .468 OBP and a .643 SLG%. Chase Utley is in the hunt as well.
Sabathia will and should receive votes for the Cy Young award but I feel that is Brandon Webb's to lose.
Pujols is the best player in the game, hands down. Ask any NL manager or catcher.
Brad Ausmus said that Pujols routinely hits balls out of the park that 99% of people hit softly to the second baseman.
I think, mainly because he is a little younger, he is the best player in the game. I think he and A-Rod are in a league of their own. Are there better all around players? Yes. Speed hasn't ever been a part of Pujols's game and stopped being an integral part of A-Rod's long ago. However, the triple crown numbers Pujols keeps putting up year in and year out are ridiculous. I meant we're talking a .340 average, 40+ HR's, and 125+ RBI, when he stays healthy the entire year. The fact that he's only won 1 MVP is insane.
Well since the Cardinals are not making the playoffs, I don't think he should get it over Sabathia. If Sabathia isn't on the Brewers, I think they would have fell apart earlier in the year. If there is any Cardinal that deserves it, it's Ryan Ludwick. I'm not a big believer in stats being the main critera for MVP. I think the silver slugger awards and the Hank Aaron award should do that. I think MVP should go to the most important player to there teams in the league. IMO that is Sabathia.
Quote from: superfan on September 01, 2008, 04:55:25 pm
Well since the Cardinals are not making the playoffs, I don't think he should get it over Sabathia. If Sabathia isn't on the Brewers, I think they would have fell apart earlier in the year. If there is any Cardinal that deserves it, it's Ryan Ludwick. I'm not a big believer in stats being the main critera for MVP. I think the silver slugger awards and the Hank Aaron award should do that. I think MVP should go to the most important player to there teams in the league. IMO that is Sabathia.
Sabathia is very important to his team and has been outstanding since he was acquired. His STATS have been eye popping sine joining the Brewers. 9-0, an ERA in the mid 1's, 85 K's to 18 BB's. I'm just not a fan of giving the MVP to a player who only plays every 5th day as opposed to an every day. Do you honestly think, if Pujols wasn't in the lineup that Ludwick would have the same numbers he has right now? Not to take anything away from Ludwick but Pujols is the glue to that team. I do agree in that stats shouldn't be the deciding factor for the MVP but it should play quite a big part in deciding the MVP though.
Sabathia, if he continues to pitch the same way, may garner some MVP attention, but he'll garner much more attention in the Cy Young race. Brandon Webb, who has been with his team the entire season, will win 20+ games, the D-Backs are going to make the playoffs, and he has been the best pitcher in the NL all season long. That is why he would get my vote if I had one. Who knows, Webb may have a horrible September, Sabathia may continue to shine, and Sabathia then would seriously deserve not only some consideration for the Cy Young but may deserve to win it. I've just never agreed with a pitcher winning the MVP award over an every day player.
20 wins for Arkansas Cliff Lee.
Red Sox take the series opener over the Orioles 6-4 tonight.
We've got a 3 game lead in the Wild Card over Minnesota/Chicago and have a ton of home games left down the stretch. I think the AL East race is all but over but it would be nice to get comfortable lead in the WC with all the home games remaining and the Twins playing so many on the road.
What's really been impressive to me about the Sox is playing so well despite all the injuries. Beckett, Drew, Wakefield, Casey, Lowell, and quite a few others have all missed significant time (with some still on the DL) but we have been able to plug in numerous guys and several rookies who have done the job. The Yankees, on the other hand, have failed at that. It's going to be so cool to see them mathematically eliminated and still playing ball down the stretch, especially the 3 game season ending series at Fenway.
Quote from: AB™ on September 01, 2008, 06:35:47 pmSabathia is very important to his team and has been outstanding since he was acquired. His STATS have been eye popping sine joining the Brewers. 9-0, an ERA in the mid 1's, 85 K's to 18 BB's. I'm just not a fan of giving the MVP to a player who only plays every 5th day as opposed to an every day.
They did a quick guess/breakdown the other day on FSR. If you take the amount of outs Sabathia is responsible for when he pitches and when he bats, over a full season it would be comparable to that of a position player. I'm not sure if I buy it or not, but it was interesting.
I guess you could do that for every pitcher having a great season. I'd have to see that before I let my opinion sway at all.
In other baseball news.
Adrian Beltre and Stephen Drew both hit for the cycle today. First time two players hit for the cycle on the same day since 1920.
Quote from: AB™ on September 01, 2008, 10:28:48 pm
In other baseball news.
Adrian Beltre and Stephen Drew both hit for the cycle today. First time two players hit for the cycle on the same day since 1920.
That is unreal. It's extremely rare to see a player hit for the cycle in the first place, much less two guys in the same day.
Yeah, the 88 years between the times it happened twice in one day is barely longer than the Red Sox went between World Series wins. ;D
Cards fans have grown quiet.
Of course Braves fans have long since done the same. I will like to post that despite giving up 14 runs tonight and blowing a 10-1 lead, the Braves did win 16-14.
Quote from: QF© on September 02, 2008, 10:01:22 pm
Cards fans have grown quite.
Of course Braves fans have long since done the same. I will like to post that despite giving up 14 runs tonight and blowing a 10-1 lead, the Braves did win 16-14.
I thought the Twins were the only team capable of blowing leads that big. We usually lose those when we blow the lead though.
What an awesome night.
Red Sox win
Rays lose
Twins lose
White Sox lose
We're starting to open up that Wild Card lead. Up to 4 games now. It's doubtful we can overtake the Rays in the division but it'd be nice if we did.
Quote from: QF© on September 02, 2008, 10:01:22 pm
Cards fans have grown quite.
Have grown "quite"? I assume you mean quiet.
It is easy to be quiet when your team seemingly builds momentum with an emotional victory against the team they are chasing and follows it up with a four game losing streak.
Sucks that the Yanks won, but Moose was on the mound, so I can see why they won.
Just thought I'd get a few opinions here. Who do you like as the AL MVP? I think it's obvious Pujols has the NL locked up but the AL is still up for grabs.
My 1-4:
1. Carlos Quentin, White Sox - where would the White Sox be without this guy? He came out of nowhere but is having an incredible year.
.288 AVG, 36 HR, 100 RBI
2. Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox - the little guy has been the most consistent hitter in the AL this year. All he does is smash line drives. He has doubled his HR total from last year (8 to 16) and epitomizes what an MVP is all about, offensively, defensively, and everywhere in between.
.327, 16 HR, 75 RBI
3. Kevin Youkilis, Red Sox - along with Pedroia he is the guy that has been the glue to the Red Sox all season long. His intensity is always there not to mention his great defense and timely hitting.
.315, 24 HR, 94 RBI
4. Jermaine Dye, White Sox - what a monster year he's having (again). Dye is just a consistent hitter and he and Quentin are the main reasons why the White Sox lead MLB in HR's this year. Also is a very quality defensive player with a solid arm.
.294, 32 HR, 83 RBI
Quote from: QF© on September 02, 2008, 10:01:22 pm
Cards fans have grown quite.
Ehh this Cards fan just barely has enough time to watch the games these days with such a busy schedule with work and re-enrolling in school...so posting about them isn't that high up on the list of things to do sadly. I missed all of yesterdays game too...and although it was a "L" for the Cards it looks to have been a good one to watch. Big thumbs down for school...poo on education lol. But there still hasn't been a lot worth talking about anways in Redbird land...just hoping to finish out the month on a decent note.
Quote from: jbell96 on September 02, 2008, 11:39:48 pmSucks that the Yanks won, but Moose was on the mound, so I can see why they won.
Now that they're far out of the picture, they can sure help us out by beating Tampa a few more times. I wouldn't mind at all. I want that division and although it's not likely, it's still within reach.
Cubs might be in trouble. Zambrano left after the 5th due to arm problems.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=280902116
Quote from: rabs_fan4life aka Mrs.Manningfan on September 02, 2008, 11:49:25 pm
Quote from: QF© on September 02, 2008, 10:01:22 pm
Cards fans have grown quite.
Ehh this Cards fan just barely has enough time to watch the games these days with such a busy schedule with work and re-enrolling in school...so posting about them isn't that high up on the list of things to do sadly. I missed all of yesterdays game too...and although it was a "L" for the Cards it looks to have been a good one to watch. Big thumbs down for school...poo on education lol. But there still hasn't been a lot worth talking about anways in Redbird land...just hoping to finish out the month on a decent note.
The Cards have overacheived all season. Their fans shouldn't be dissapointed in them. I figured the entire season it would just be a two team race in the Central between the Cubs and Brewers but the Cardinals had different ideas and have made it a three team race basically all season long. You got your usual numbers from Pujols and then other no name position players and pitchers overacheiving and putting up very good numbers. They've been scrappy all year long.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 02, 2008, 11:34:13 pm
What an awesome night.
Red Sox win
Rays lose
Twins lose
White Sox lose
We're starting to open up that Wild Card lead. Up to 4 games now. It's doubtful we can overtake the Rays in the division but it'd be nice if we did.
We have been doing a pretty good job of helping Boston and CWS out. We have been blowing leads like crazy since the all-star break. There are not too many games we have lost since then that we have been down the entire game. We blew a 5-1 lead last night. I think Toronto had 3 two run homers.
Wow what a game! Red Sox fight back to beat the Orioles 5-4 in dramatic fashion.
Tied 4-4 in the 9th Alex Cora singles, Coco Crisp bunts for a hit, and Jacoby Ellsbury lays down a bunt that is thrown into left field as the winning run comes around to score. It was a huge win for Boston being down 4-0 in the 7th inning.
Dustin Pedroia (who very well may surpass Carlos Quentin for MVP) had another great game with 3 hits and a HR in the 7th inning. He is the best hitter in the game right now. Heck, in his last 8 games he's 21-34!!! M.V.P.
Can't underestimate what Mark Kotsay is doing for us either. He had a 2 run triple in the 8th to tie the game and has done a really awesome job stepping in. Glad Atlanta wanted to dump him for nothing. :)
Mauer comes through big in the top of the 7th. We were down 2-0 with bases loaded and 2 outs. He gets a bases clearing double. We are up 3-2 now.
Joe Nathan blows yet another save. We were up 1 with 2 outs left in the 9th and Toronto ties it up. It is in the bottom of the 10th now and Toronto has the bases loaded with one out with Nathan still pitching.
Nathan gets a strikeout and then gets the next batter to fly out getting us out of the inning. On to the 11th.
We blow it in the bottom of the 11th. We have blown so many leads this year it is ridiculous. Honestly, if we could close out games and win at least half of the games that we were ahead in past the 7th but ended up blowing it we would be at least 6 or 7 games ahead of the White Sox and have about 84 or 85 wins. I guess our inexperience is to blame for our inability to close games out.
Woooo.
Red Sox win.
Rays lose.
Twins lose.
More nights like the past two please. :D
Twins got shellacked 9-0 tonight by the Blue Jays to cap off the sweep. They're slowly starting to fall out of it.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 04, 2008, 11:54:11 pm
Twins got shellacked 9-0 tonight by the Blue Jays to cap off the sweep. They're slowly starting to fall out of it.
Maybe in the WC, but we don't want that. We want the Central. They are only 1 and a half games behind. We were tied going into the series. We aren't falling out of it by any means. We have been on like a 15 game road trip. Our players probably exhausted and ready to get home since they haven't been home for like 3 weeks. We get to finally play at home, and in a week or two we get the CWS at home. That series will likely decide the Central.
Cubs have lost 5 in a row. :(
Fortunately the Brewers have lost 4 in a row :)
Josh, I got 2nd row seats on the 3rd base dugout for the Rays/Red Sox game next Tuesday at The Trop.
Quote from: SMC on September 05, 2008, 08:23:52 am
Cubs have lost 5 in a row. :(
Fortunately the Brewers have lost 4 in a row :)
Cardinals blew a golden opportunity to gain ground on the Brewers by choking away two of the three games in Arizona. We could be three games back right now. I just need to come to the realization that we aren't going anywhere this year.
Just FYI I will be at the Cardinals vs. Marlins games tonight and tomorrow night. I got my tickets from Andrew Miller himself :).
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on September 05, 2008, 09:30:10 am
Just FYI I will be at the Cardinals vs. Marlins games tonight and tomorrow night. I got my tickets from Andrew Miller himself :).
You sitting in the players wives section?
Quote from: Rizzo on September 05, 2008, 09:31:27 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on September 05, 2008, 09:30:10 am
Just FYI I will be at the Cardinals vs. Marlins games tonight and tomorrow night. I got my tickets from Andrew Miller himself :).
You sitting in the players wives section?
I would suppose they put all those tickets in the same section. Perhaps Misty May-Trainor will be there lol
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on September 05, 2008, 09:32:29 am
Quote from: Rizzo on September 05, 2008, 09:31:27 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on September 05, 2008, 09:30:10 am
Just FYI I will be at the Cardinals vs. Marlins games tonight and tomorrow night. I got my tickets from Andrew Miller himself :).
You sitting in the players wives section?
I would suppose they put all those tickets in the same section. Perhaps Misty May-Trainor will be there lol
I get back on Sunday man, we'll have to hit up a round of golf while I'm back.
Quote from: Rizzo on September 05, 2008, 09:43:06 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on September 05, 2008, 09:32:29 am
Quote from: Rizzo on September 05, 2008, 09:31:27 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on September 05, 2008, 09:30:10 am
Just FYI I will be at the Cardinals vs. Marlins games tonight and tomorrow night. I got my tickets from Andrew Miller himself :).
You sitting in the players wives section?
I would suppose they put all those tickets in the same section. Perhaps Misty May-Trainor will be there lol
I get back on Sunday man, we'll have to hit up a round of golf while I'm back.
Sounds like a plan.
Andrew Miller - Tar Heel legend.
Quote from: Rizzo on September 05, 2008, 08:48:08 am
Josh, I got 2nd row seats on the 3rd base dugout for the Rays/Red Sox game next Tuesday at The Trop.
That'll be a great series. How'd you swing that?
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 05, 2008, 06:52:02 pm
Quote from: Rizzo on September 05, 2008, 08:48:08 am
Josh, I got 2nd row seats on the 3rd base dugout for the Rays/Red Sox game next Tuesday at The Trop.
That'll be a great series. How'd you swing that?
Connections ;)
Greg Zaun hit a walk off grand slam in the 13th today to beat the Rays 7-4. I love it.
Meanwhile Boston leads Texas 1-0 in the 2nd inning. If we take care of business tonight that lead will be trimmed all the way down to 1 1/2 games.
Edit: Well so much for winning tonight. Texas up big. At least the Rays lost though.
Red Sox 7, Rangers 2 - Final
Blue Jays 1, Rays 0 - Final
Bwahahaha. Boston only 1 1/2 games back! :)
The Brewers continue to blow chances to take over the NL Central.
Cubs have lost 6 of 7 after Kerry Wood burns down the Great American Ballpark in the 9th today, but it doesn't matter as Chris Young no hits the Brewers for almost 8 innings and the PADRES of all teams have salvaged a 4 game split up there.
Still a 4 game lead, with 19 to play.
Cubs
3 @ St Louis
3 @ Houston
3 vs Milwaukee
3 vs St Louis
4 @ NY Mets
3 @ Milwaukee
Brewers
3 vs Cincinnati
4 @ Philadelphia
3 @ Chicago
3 @ Cincinnati
3 vs Pittsburgh
3 vs Chicago
The goal has to be to have the division wrapped before we go to Milwaukee on Sep 26. Very important to play well in these next 6 road games @ STL and Houston. Extending the lead to 5 or 6 games going into the final 2 weeks would be massive.
Watch out for the Cards as a spoiler, Ryan. We may be out of it, so there would be no better way to end our season than to keep y'all out too :)
We won't be out, we have to finish out going like 8 games under and the Phils/Mets loser going about 7 games over to miss out. We might lose the division but we would be the WC unless the whole team contracts malaria or something. And knowing the Cubs, that actually might happen.
So Andrew Miller is a freakn great guy. BTW the seats were freakn awesome.
Benton, AR native Cliff Lee picked up his MLB leading 21st win last night. He will be your AL Cy Young winner.
Also I forgot to mention that after the game Friday night I was eating dinner at Mike Shannon's and none other than Ozzie Smith walks in to do the radio show. I got to meet Ozzie and got his autograph. Perhaps the greatest thing thats ever happened to me.
The Red Sox broke the all time MLB consecutive sellouts streak tonight with #456. I can proudly say I was a part of 2 of those. There's no telling when that streak will end either.
Boston is up on Tampa 3-0 after 3 innings. David Ortiz had an RBI double followed by a Jason Bay HR off Edwin Jackson in the 1st. And with Jon Lester on the mound, I like our chances to cut into their AL East lead once again.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on September 08, 2008, 04:22:42 pm
Also I forgot to mention that after the game Friday night I was eating dinner at Mike Shannon's and none other than Ozzie Smith walks in to do the radio show. I got to meet Ozzie and got his autograph. Perhaps the greatest thing thats ever happened to me.
Meet him in his final season when he was sharing time with Royce Clayton. One of the greatest things I've ever experienced.
Red Sox win 3-0!
We are now just a 1/2 game back of the Rays, compared to 5 1/2 on August 31st. Great to see.
Jon Lester was fantastic tonight. 8 shutout innings. Papelbon got the 4 out save striking out 3. Go Sox!
Pujols just launched #33 into the right center field seats to even it up at 3 in the bottom half of the 6th.
Talk about clutch.
Only in a Cub/Cardinal game would someone win the game in the bottom of the 9th with a single, balk, sac bunt, and check swing excuse me grounder to 2nd base.
All I can do is laugh.
Jason Bay hit his 3rd homer in as many games but it didn't end up mattering. Rays win 5-4.
Take the series tomorrow.
Just grand new as I have been given tickets to the first two games of the Cardinals vs. Diamondback series at the end of September. Nothing better than going to four games in the middle of the playoff run.
Hopefully those games will matter, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
LOL woke up to see the Brewers lost again last night.
The Cubs have lost 7 of 8, and only lost ONE game of our lead to the Brewers. You can either look at it like the Cubs have missed a chance to close out the division, or the Brewers missed a chance to overtake the lead - whichever one it is, we'll see soon.
Cubs need to take care of business and win 3 of the next 5 at least @ STL and @ HOU to maintain at least a 3.5 game edge on the Brewers (assuming they don't do any better than 4-1 in their next 5) before Milwaukee comes to Wrigley for 3, then we can try to deliver the death blow. If we are up 4.5 or 5.5 when they come to town they will be really needing a sweep.
Quote from: jbell96 on September 10, 2008, 06:47:38 am
Hopefully those games will matter, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
If the Diamondbacks keep struggling and the Dodgers keep playing good baseball then neither team will be playing for anything of importance.
It's all amounting to what is going to be a great stretch run in the NL.
If Albert Pujols doesn't win the MVP, something is wrong. Just as it seems like the sun has set on the Cardinals he steps up and delivers a 3 run home run to push the sun back up in the sky for one day and gives hope to people all over Cardinal Nation. I woke this morning with a smile on my face knowing that Looper would come out and compete tonight.
lol Ted Lilly ran over Molina. You got hurt by a pitcher?
Quote from: SMC on September 10, 2008, 07:51:34 pm
lol Ted Lilly ran over Molina. You got hurt by a pitcher?
I don't care if it is a pitcher a knee right in the inside of your thigh is going to hurt.
Lilly is a gamer. Can't name many pitchers who would've plowed through a big dude like Molina there.
Meanwhile I just saw the Astros are winning again, and if they hold on and the Cards lose tonight then the Astros will jump over STL into 3rd place. That is amazing considering how each team started the season so differently.
Lilly looked like a lilly in his next at bat following that. He was shaking in his cleats thinking he was about to get hit.
He is a horrible hitter. He always looks like that :)
Quote from: SMC on September 10, 2008, 09:25:27 pm
He is a horrible hitter. He always looks like that :)
You know its seemed like we have been down by a lot more than 3 all night.....
Don't remind me, we still have to get 6 more outs. We paid for not getting insurance runs last night, hopefully the same doesn't happen this time.
Kerry Wood causes me waaaaay too much undue stress.
If you aren't watching the Red Sox and Rays right now you are out of your mind. It's bottom of the 12th at Fenway tied 1-1. Dustin Pedroia on 2nd base with 1 out...
Come on Boston, come on...
Quote from: SMC on September 10, 2008, 10:02:46 pm
Kerry Wood causes me waaaaay too much undue stress.
You lucky Cubs...
I would have put one right in Lilly's ribcage.
I would have loved that. Putting our #9 hitter on who can't even hit .100 - that's smart.
He was already scared to death. I think that was enough.
You have got to be kidding me. Alex Cora laces one to CF, but Tampa had exactly PERFECT defensive placement and they caught the ball.
We are going to the 13th at Fenway. Holy crap this is nervewracking.
He deserved it.
Actually, I would have put one in Soriano's or Fukudome's ribcage.
Leadoff double for Tampa. They're about to put this one away.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 10, 2008, 10:22:46 pm
Leadoff double for Tampa. They're about to put this one away.
Not so fast my friend.
Well, Josh, the Sox got out of that one. Leadoff double didn't hurt them. Rays fail to push across the go ahead run.
END THIS BOSTON.
...Or not.
Fernando Perez is driving me crazy in CF. That dude can fly.
Freaking awesome job Javier Lopez. 2 1/3 innings of shutout relief.
Timlin coming in. This makes me nervous. When you're down to the likes of Mike Timlin and Trevor Miller, somebody's gonna score. And it'll probably be this inning.
Timlin gives up a base hit after getting into a 3-0 hole. I would pull him out if he gives up another hit. The guy just scares you when he's on the mound. Even though if he completes one more inning he'll tie the major league record for most innings of relief pitched by a right hander in MLB history.
OUCH.
Carlos Pena with a 3 run bomb off Timlin. Why in the world was he still out there after giving up his second hit?
Huge win for the Rays if they hold on(which they will)huge loss for the Sox.
Quote from: AB™ on September 10, 2008, 10:45:47 pm
Why in the world was he still out there after giving up his second hit?
Boo his as
s.
Francona should have had him yanked after giving up two hits. Francona isn't looking all that good now.
Ellsbury breathing some life into the Sox with a leadoff double.
Quote from: AB™ on September 10, 2008, 10:53:41 pm
Ellsbury breathing some life into the Sox with a leadoff double.
Too bad that wasn't about 3 innings ago.
Pena giving me fantasy league redemption, after all 3 of my position players that I had on the bench homered - UGH
Percival walks Ortiz and Pedrioa. Bases loaded and 0 outs. Boston still has a chance.
Bases loaded no out.
Come on Sox! Lets do this.
Pedroia has been on base SIX times tonight. SIX!
That would be your AL MVP.
Balls.
And to think I actually got my hopes up for a few minutes.
The Rays are now 2.5 half games up.
Here is what they have remaining on their schedule
3 @Yankees(77-69) 5-5 in last 10 games
3 vs. Red Sox(85-59) 7-3
4 vs. Twins(80-65) 4-6
4 @ Orioles(64-80) 1-9
4 @ Tigers(70-76) 4-6
That is 18 games left against teams with a combined .518 winning percentage, and a combined 21-29 in their last 50 games, again that is combined. The only team playing good baseball right now left on the Rays schedule is the Red Sox.
Red Sox remaining games:
3 vs. Blue Jays(78-67) 9-1 in last 10(winners of 10 in a row and after a loss tonight now 10 of 11)
3 @ Rays(86-57) 4-6
3 @ Blue Jays(78-67) 9-1
4 vs. Indians(71-73) 6-4
3 vs. Yankees(77-69) 5-5
There last 16 games come against teams with a combined .539 winning percentage, and a combined 33-17 in their last 50 combined games.
That tells you that Boston, sitting 2.5 games back with 16 remaining has a tougher go of things to finish out the season than the Rays do.
Obviously, with three games remaining against the Rays, if the Sox can keep their lead under three games, then a sweep will give the Sox the series lead. Boston still has a shot at the division but losing this game tonight definitely didn't make things any easier on them. However, they also still have 6 games remaining against the hottest team in baseball right now.
Quote from: AB™ on September 10, 2008, 11:18:51 pm
Boston still has a shot at the division but losing this game tonight definitely didn't make things any easier on them. However, they also still have 6 games remaining against the hottest team in baseball right now.
Actually we play Toronto 7 more times. We have a DH Saturday.
I would love to win the division and not have to face LAA in the 1st round, but we're getting the Wild Card.
An extra game against the Blue Jays makes your final 17 games that much tougher. I like the Red Sox and love the story that has been the Rays this season. I honestly don't care who wins the division, because barring some epic collapse down the stretch, both teams are going to the playoffs. One(more than likely the Red Sox)will play the Angels in the first round and the other will get the White Sox.
Red Sox took game 1 in a 4 game series with the Blue Jays tonight. Wakefield was fantastic, throwing 8 shutout innings and onlly allowing 3 hits. Big to win the first game with a doubleheader tomorrow. 2 games back of the Rays.
My boy Paul Maholm shut down the Cardinals tonight. He pitched 8 awesome innings en route to a 10-2 beat down. He's had a really good year but gets no attention due to playing in Pittsburg.
There were SIX games rained out tonight with 6 doubleheaders scheduled for tomorrow. That is insane.
Also, the Rays called up former #1 pick David Price today. Keep an eye on this as he has some FILTHY stuff and could play a huge role in the postseason.
Cliff Lee won decision #22 tonight. I know K-Rod might set a new saves record out in LA, but if Lee doesn't get a Cy Young it is robbery.
Twins won 12-2 in the first game and are now up 6-0 in the first inning of the 2nd game. If they hold onto this they will be tied again for the Central. CWS will play 2 tomorrow.
The Twins have scored in each of the first 3 innings. They are up 8-2. We have one of the better offenses in the league, but sometimes it just doesn't show up. We can score in bunches though. We have the #1 batting average in the MLB with runners in scoring position. This team is the exact opposite than what we have been known for in the past. This team has really good bats and can score a lot, but they aren't real sound on defense at times. In the past, we were known for solid defense. We have blown so many games while being up big just because of errors. It is fun to watch a team score a lot though.
Red Sox and Blue Jays split their DH today, as did the Rays and Yankees.
We're still 2 games back of the Rays.
We hang 12 on the Orioles in back to back games today to tie it up in the division. I highly doubt it happens, but if CWS loses both their games tomorrow and the Twins win we will go from 2.5 games down to 1.5 games up in a matter of about 5 days.
We are 5.5 games out of the WC lead. I don't expect to win the wild card though. I think Boston and TB are too far ahead right now. However, there is time and anything can happen. We have a 4 game series with TB so I am sure you will be rooting for us then Josh. Maybe we can take 3 of them and put us in position the last week to win the WC over TB. I would much rather see TB win the division, Twins win the division, and CWS win the WC, but I will take whatever as long as the Twins are in the playoffs. We have a home series against the CWS so that will probably decide the Central.
The Twins are getting rocked right now 7-0 in the 5th. Baltimore has hit 2 two run homers and 3 solo shots. In the 4th, they went back to back solo shots. Blackburn gave up 4 of the homers. The inconsistency continues. The White Sox game has been delayed by about an hour now. I doubt they play. This will be the third straight day their games have been delayed. This could play out in our favor though. Hopefully they make them squeeze them in at a later date right before the playoffs. I
The White Sox game finally did start, it is in the 2nd inning now.
Cubs and Astros will finally start their series tonight - MLB moved it to Milwaukee cause of the hurricane. Houston wanted to possibly play a doubleheader tomorrow and postpone the last game to Sep 29 if needed, but we needed to get the games in and not back up the schedule even further. There have been a ton of rainouts all over MLB lately.
The Brewers are just tanking the season right now. Cubs lost 8 of 9 at one point and the Brewers did nothing to take advantage, now they've lost 3 straight including the first of a doubleheader to Philly today. They might crap away the wild card to the Mets/Phils loser or even Houston. STL looks to be dead in the water as they've lost 2 straight to the Pirates.
NYM and Philly is going to be the race to watch, along with CWS and the Twins.
MLB is horribly run. Their feet dragging is going to create issues that could have been avoided if they had better leadership.
Just look at the NFL to see a well run league. They adapted to the Houston deal in a matter of hours. Baseball moves games to MIL? And falls behind when there were available fields to plat on?
Serves them right if they have WS games on Halloween.
Rant over.
Quote from: SMC on September 14, 2008, 04:38:15 pmThe White Sox game finally did start, it is in the 2nd inning now.
Cubs and Astros will finally start their series tonight - MLB moved it to Milwaukee cause of the hurricane. Houston wanted to possibly play a doubleheader tomorrow and postpone the last game to Sep 29 if needed, but we needed to get the games in and not back up the schedule even further. There have been a ton of rainouts all over MLB lately.
The Brewers are just tanking the season right now. Cubs lost 8 of 9 at one point and the Brewers did nothing to take advantage, now they've lost 3 straight including the first of a doubleheader to Philly today. They might crap away the wild card to the Mets/Phils loser or even Houston. STL looks to be dead in the water as they've lost 2 straight to the Pirates.<br /><br />NYM and Philly is going to be the race to watch, along with CWS and the Twins.<br />
From a 'stros email:
"Major League Baseball announced tonight that two Houston Astros games against the Chicago Cubs will be moved to Milwaukee's Miller Park because of the impact of Hurricane Ike on the Houston area. The games will be played at 7:05 PM on Sunday (Spet. 14) and 1:05 PM on Monday (Sept. 15).
If necessary, the third game in the Astros-Cubs series would be played on Monday, Sept. 29 at Minute Maid Park, if playoff implications exist." Astros are scheduled to be in Florida Tuesday. At least they got what they wanted for game three but playing 2 "home" games in Chicago's backyard sounds like a little MLB politics was involved.
http://houston.astros.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080913&content_id=3470739&vkey=news_hou&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou
Were they supposed to postpone them all until the end of the season and make the Cubs play 3 games while everyone else rested for the playoffs? It's not the Cubs fault a hurricane hit Houston. It's not the stros fault either, but we can't stop the world and wait to play all these games.
Quote from: QF© on September 14, 2008, 04:56:38 pm
MLB is horribly run. Their feet dragging is going to create issues that could have been avoided if they had better leadership.
Just look at the NFL to see a well run league. They adapted to the Houston deal in a matter of hours. Baseball moves games to MIL? And falls behind when there were available fields to plat on?
Serves them right if they have WS games on Halloween.
Rant over.
You know, it's JUST A LITTLE BIT easier to reschedule games that happen once a week, as opposed to every day...
but hey, that's JMO.
I don't see any problem with moving the games to Milwaukee. They need to get these games in sooner rather than later. I can't remember exactly, but I think it was last year when there were a couple games in Milwaukee that didn't involve the Brewers.
Huge win for the Red Sox today. Jon Lester pitched us past Roy Halladay and the Blue Jays to a 4-3 win and taking 3/4 from Toronto, who coming in was the hottest team in baseball. The Yankees also beat the Rays which was HUGE. Now we're only 1 game back of Tampa heading into our series with them starting tomorrow night.
Ike was known about for quite some time. They cancelled far in advance and then sat still with no decisions for 48 hours or so. There were other venues to use. Playing in Wisconsin after the fact shows they certainly were looking to move it. And to Selig's backdoor is kind of strange.
They were too slow to decide when they knew what was going on. Your point of the fact they had multiple games to fix only emphasizes the need to no drag your feet. In baseball, the windows of opportunity are narrow due to mother nature. The more time that goes by, the more you tempt fate with other factors like more weather.
They were just too slow. They could have played Sat night at other venues.
Considering Milwaukee is practically in Chicago's backyard, I could understand why Cooper has a problem with the venue.
There's a reason why they call Miller Park "Wrigley North."
Houston kept protesting against playing at other venues. The Cubs were willing to play in St Louis among other places. The Astros officials were saying to be fair the games had to be played at Minute Maid. Now we are 2 days behind schedule, it's in Milwaukee, which I agree is a Cub home field but we would have played them in Dallas if that's what MLB had told us to. They were trying to be fair to Houston which I understand since they are the affected city and they are now in the playoff race.
But back to today's games -
Phillies are whipping the Brewers 7-1 late in the 2nd game of the double dip. Should the Phils hang on, they close to within a game of the Mets.
More importantly, they would tie the Brewers for the WC lead. Just 3 days ago the Brewers were 3 games up, and they've completely hacked away their lead. Bwahahahahahahahaha
The Phillies are pounding the Brewers 7-1 in Game 2 of the DH. Milwaukee folding down the stretch just like they did last year.
The White Sox are up 1-0 on the Tigers in Game 2 of their DH. A 2 game sweep would really hurt Minnesota today since they lost.
If you have Fox SW, Carlos Zambrano is currently no hitting the Astros thru 7...
Quote from: SMC on September 14, 2008, 09:01:03 pm
If you have Fox SW, Carlos Zambrano is currently no hitting the Astros thru 7...
You know you just jinxed him right?
Probably, but due to the Brewers and Cardinals crapping the bed in the last few days I'm just having too much fun :)
Blum, Pence, Newhan up for Houston in the 8th.
Crap i thought I did. The first pitch i saw was a liner to right an caught. 5 outs to go.
he has not pitched in the 9th all year.
Blum lines to right.
Pence pops out in foul ground.
Newhan whiffs.
On to the 9th. COME ON Z!!!!
I don't think there's a pitcher in baseball I don't want to see get a no-hitter more than Big Z.
I loathe him.
Zambrano appears to want this. Not the typical emotions of a pitcher with a no-no going.
Eddie....were are you? Enter the thread and hex this baby.
Quintero, pinch hitter, Erstad in the 9th.
Crap, Erstad isn't the kind of name I wanna see coming up.
JINX
SIT DOWN FOOL
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Man he chased that one.
done
That last pitch was NASTY
It was horrible. Just a bad swing.
Even though he plays for my MLB mortal enemy I have to tip my hat to Zambrano. He was the man tonight.
All he can do is go out there and do his best and he did but,
Carlos Zambrano 9/14/08 no-hitter*
*Astros have a "home" game 90 miles from Chicago where 90%+ fans are Cubbies
Astros find out some time late on the 13th to be at the airport @ 8:45 a.m. the 14th for trip to Milwaukee
First time all year Astros have traveled on the same day they play
Many Astros players have had their homes or apartments damaged by Ike
Some Astros players may not at this point even know the status of their Houston area homes or apartments.
Congratulation on his first career no-hitter but I don't think he saw Houston at their best. Professionals or not, I couldn't blame them for a possible lack of focus. Try to reschedule the missed games as soon as possible, at a home team friendly, weather safe, venue but, come on ::).
Quote from: bleudog on September 14, 2008, 10:13:11 pm
All he can do is go out there and do his best and he did but,
Carlos Zambrano 9/14/08 no-hitter*
*Astros have a "home" game 90 miles from Chicago where 90%+ fans are Cubbies
Astros find out some time late on the 13th to be at the airport @ 8:45 a.m. the 14th for trip to Milwaukee
First time all year Astros have traveled on the same day they play
Many Astros players have had their homes or apartments damaged by Ike
Some Astros players may not at this point even know the status of their Houston area homes or apartments.
Congratulation on his first career no-hitter but I don't think he saw Houston at their best. Professionals or not, I couldn't blame them for a possible lack of focus. Try to reschedule the missed games as soon as possible, at a home team friendly, weather safe, venue but, come on ::).
Go back to the last page and read one of SMC's posts. Houston didn't want to move to a different venue and changed their mind at the last minute.
Quote from: RHS on September 14, 2008, 10:30:32 pm
Go back to the last page and read one of SMC's posts. Houston didn't want to move to a different venue and changed their mind at the last minute.
I read it; and, I read and posted this earlier:
http://houston.astros.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080913&content_id=3470739&vkey=news_hou&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou
..........The announcement was made after days of haggling between the Astros, the Cubs, the Commissioner's Office and the MLB Players Association. A slew of scenarios were bandied about, including playing one game in Milwaukee on Sunday and two in Houston on Monday, playing the entire series at Turner Field in Atlanta, or playing two in Houston on Monday and playing the third game upon the conclusion of the regular season.
Ryan-Sanders Baseball, which operates the Astros' Triple-A and Double-A clubs, offered to host at least one game of the series at The Dell Diamond in Round Rock.
At one point early Saturday afternoon, select Astros uniformed personnel were told to be ready to travel to Milwaukee for one game Sunday. However, later in the afternoon, the city of Houston closed downtown to the public to enable the cleanup from Hurricane Ike to begin, presumably ending the Astros' hopes to host two games of the Cubs series at Minute Maid Park.
With at least 80 percent of the city without power and billions of dollars estimated in damage to the Houston and Galveston areas, it became increasingly obvious that hosting baseball games at Minute Maid Park was not a reasonable option, even though the ballpark wasn't affected structurally by the storms.
"Honestly, it comes down to the right thing to do," said club president of business operations Pam Gardner. "Yes, we could play a game, but is that the right thing to do with what people are dealing with personally? That became the driving force for us.
"It's going to take a while for the city to recover. Most people don't have power. When 90 percent don't have power, it would be unfair for fans who try to get down here, when they really shouldn't. Had we been able to play, we would have preferred that. It's a natural disaster and you have to adjust, so we did. It's not perfect. It's the best we can do."
Ultimately, Commissioner Bud Selig picked Miller Park. Because the venue has a roof, it would not be affected by weather-related issues that have inundated large portions of the country........
Due to my cable going out percisely in the third inning of this game and then not coming back on until about 10:45, I missed this no-hitter. And I was actually watching the game. I didn't have a clue it was on TV. I was flipping through the channels and saw it on Fox Sports. Even though I have no loyalties to the Cubs or Astros I was ticked. It's not every day you get to see a no hitter.
Big series with the Rays-Red Sox starting tonight.
Yost fired by MILW.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3589405
Huge surprise. I think he's done a good job and this timing is unreal. I know they've faltered as of late, but goodness.
That is ridiculous. He has them in the playoff hunt. They have played poor baseball down the stretch but to fire the manager in the last weeks of the season when his team is still tied for first in the wild card is just plain stupid.
Brewers just signed the paper saying they won't make the playoffs with that firing.
At least MIL can say they had a no-hitter in their ballpark and neither pitched it or were the no-hit team.
They just functioned as the vendor.
Brewer Front Office = EPIC FAIL
Quote from: jbell96 on September 15, 2008, 06:14:03 pm
Brewer Front Office = EPIC FAIL
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The Red Sox are pounding the Rays early on. 4-0 Sox in the top of the 2nd.
Big Papi hit a 3 run bomb in the 1st and Mike Lowell added a solo shot. Go Sox.
Scott Kazmir = p3wned
3 IP, 9 ER, 4 HR allowed
Ortiz, Lowell, Bay, Varitek, and Youkilis have all gone deep for the Red Sox and it's only the 4th inning.
Red Sox up 11-1 in the 4th. Bwahahaha so much for that AL East lead. Suck it Tampa.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 15, 2008, 07:39:21 pm
Scott Kazmir = p3wned
3 IP, 9 ER, 4 HR allowed
Ortiz, Lowell, Bay, Varitek, and Youkilis have all gone deep for the Red Sox and it's only the 4th inning.
Red Sox up 11-1 in the 4th. Bwahahaha so much for that AL East lead. Suck it Tampa.
Well, technically they will still have it. They will just be sharing it. :)
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on September 15, 2008, 07:40:41 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 15, 2008, 07:39:21 pm
Scott Kazmir = p3wned
3 IP, 9 ER, 4 HR allowed
Ortiz, Lowell, Bay, Varitek, and Youkilis have all gone deep for the Red Sox and it's only the 4th inning.
Red Sox up 11-1 in the 4th. Bwahahaha so much for that AL East lead. Suck it Tampa.
Well, technically they will still have it. They will just be sharing it. :)
Not for long. Tampa is 4-9 in September after their beat down tonight and fading fast. Oh they will be in the playoffs, but I think it will be by way of the Wild Card. The Red Sox are turning it on at the right time. :)
Indians leading the Twins 3-0 in the 5th.
Yankees and White Sox tied 2-2 in the 6th.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 15, 2008, 07:44:28 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on September 15, 2008, 07:40:41 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 15, 2008, 07:39:21 pm
Scott Kazmir = p3wned
3 IP, 9 ER, 4 HR allowed
Ortiz, Lowell, Bay, Varitek, and Youkilis have all gone deep for the Red Sox and it's only the 4th inning.
Red Sox up 11-1 in the 4th. Bwahahaha so much for that AL East lead. Suck it Tampa.
Well, technically they will still have it. They will just be sharing it. :)
Not for long. Tampa is 4-9 in September after their beat down tonight and fading fast. Oh they will be in the playoffs, but I think it will be by way of the Wild Card. The Red Sox are turning it on at the right time. :)
Indians leading the Twins 3-0 in the 5th.
Yankees and White Sox tied 2-2 in the 6th.
Yeah, I think Red Sox will win the division too. I wouldn't be so sure of TB making the playoffs. We could pass TB for the wild card if we don't win the Central. I don't think it will be likely, but it could happen. We have a 4 game series with them coming up.
Jeff, I hate to rain on your parade, and I'm sure you realize this, but it is going to take a comnplete implosion within the Rays organization for them to miss the playoffs this year.
The Rays are going to have a record of 88-60 after tonight, and it also appears the Twins are on their way to a loss tonight, making their record 82-68. That puts the Twins 8 games back in the loss column with 12 games remaining. Not only would the Twins need to sweep the Rays in their four game series but they would need the Rays to have a terrible record in their final 14 games.
Quote from: AB™ on September 15, 2008, 08:54:23 pm
Jeff, I hate to rain on your parade, and I'm sure you realize this, but it is going to take a comnplete implosion within the Rays organization for them to miss the playoffs this year.
The Rays are going to have a record of 88-60 after tonight, and it also appears the Twins are on their way to a loss tonight, making their record 82-68. That puts the Twins 8 games back in the loss column with 12 games remaining. Not only would the Twins need to sweep the Rays in their four game series but they would need the Rays to have a terrible record in their final 14 games.
We are 6 games back from the Rays. I said it was unlikely, but not at all impossible. I honestly think our only way to make the playoffs is to win the Central. I think we have a good shot at winning the central too. We have KC and CWS at home. That series with CWS is going to decide it more than likely.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on September 15, 2008, 08:56:51 pm
Quote from: AB™ on September 15, 2008, 08:54:23 pm
Jeff, I hate to rain on your parade, and I'm sure you realize this, but it is going to take a comnplete implosion within the Rays organization for them to miss the playoffs this year.
The Rays are going to have a record of 88-60 after tonight, and it also appears the Twins are on their way to a loss tonight, making their record 82-68. That puts the Twins 8 games back in the loss column with 12 games remaining. Not only would the Twins need to sweep the Rays in their four game series but they would need the Rays to have a terrible record in their final 14 games.
We are 6 games back from the Rays. I said it was unlikely, but not at all impossible. I honestly think our only way to make the playoffs is to win the Central. I think we have a good shot at winning the central too. We have KC and CWS at home. That series with CWS is going to decide it more than likely.
I know you're 6 games back. But you're 8 games back in the loss column. That means if the Rays go 6-8 over their last 14 games then the Twins have to finish 12-0 this season. Like you said, your only hope of making the playoffs is winning the Central.
And Steve Phillips is working for ESPN after the Mets canned him following that Kazmir draft :)
Oh, and Denard Span is rocking it this year for Minnesota.
Quote from: AB™ on September 15, 2008, 09:00:35 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on September 15, 2008, 08:56:51 pm
Quote from: AB™ on September 15, 2008, 08:54:23 pm
Jeff, I hate to rain on your parade, and I'm sure you realize this, but it is going to take a comnplete implosion within the Rays organization for them to miss the playoffs this year.
The Rays are going to have a record of 88-60 after tonight, and it also appears the Twins are on their way to a loss tonight, making their record 82-68. That puts the Twins 8 games back in the loss column with 12 games remaining. Not only would the Twins need to sweep the Rays in their four game series but they would need the Rays to have a terrible record in their final 14 games.
We are 6 games back from the Rays. I said it was unlikely, but not at all impossible. I honestly think our only way to make the playoffs is to win the Central. I think we have a good shot at winning the central too. We have KC and CWS at home. That series with CWS is going to decide it more than likely.
I know you're 6 games back. But you're 8 games back in the loss column. That means if the Rays go 6-8 over their last 14 games then the Twins have to finish 12-0 this season. Like you said, your only hope of making the playoffs is winning the Central.
Yeah, I see what you are saying.
Quote from: SMC on September 15, 2008, 11:18:32 pm
And Steve Phillips is working for ESPN after the Mets canned him following that Kazmir draft :)
Oh, and Denard Span is rocking it this year for Minnesota.
We have a lot of young talent. Span is awesome.
Span almost made Beane murder someone.
The Red Sox and Rays are tied 1-1 in the 8th. What an awesome game. Josh Beckett has been lights out. Come on Sox, pull this one out.
Indians currently lead the Twins 8-7 in the 6th.
White Sox beating the Yankees 5-2 in the 7th.
Quote from: Manningfan on July 24, 2008, 10:20:58 pm
The Brewers are going to the world series against the Yankees you heard it hear first
So um, how's that prediction turning out for you?
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 16, 2008, 08:14:51 pm
The Red Sox and Rays are tied 1-1 in the 8th. What an awesome game. Josh Beckett has been lights out. Come on Sox, pull this one out.
Indians currently lead the Twins 8-7 in the 6th.
White Sox beating the Yankees 5-2 in the 7th.
WOW. We have been blowing games all year, and maybe we will have a little luck tonight. I had a night class and checked the score in the middle of class. It was 8-1 Indians in the 5th. Now we are in a position to win. If we lose and the CWS win I think we may be in too big of a hole. We aren't out of it yet if we lose, but it is going to be tough having to go to Tampa for a 4 game series.
And their 7 run lead has disappeared to a tie. It is 8-8 and we have the bases loaded with 1 out.
The Mets aer on the verge of another late season collapse. They lose to the Nationals tonight and the Phillies win, giving the Phillies a 0.5 game lead in the NL East.
Ryan had a good point the other night.
A few years ago we were wondering how many guys were going to crush 50+ bombs. This year, it appears that probably only one guy will get to that mark.
I thought that maybe two or three players would get there this year. I think Ryan Howard is almsot a lock to get there most years as long as he's healthy and has the protction he currently does in the lineup. Pujols has never been a player with 50+ HR power but a lot of that has to do with him not being able to stay healthy all year long. After those two there's A-Rod and then every other season or so Adam Dunn will flirt with the mark whilst batting .220.
Players are off the juice and this be even more evidence that a ton of players were roiding up for a 10-15 year span going back to the mid-90's thru about 04-05.
Ouch. Victor Martinez hit a walk-off homer and the Twins fall to the Indians 12-9, and fall behind the White Sox by 2.5 game.s
It looks like Josh conveniently forgot to post the Rays/Sox score. Rays won 2-1 to go back out in front by a game. :)
Quote from: jbell96 on September 16, 2008, 10:57:34 pm
It looks like Josh conveniently forgot to post the Rays/Sox score. Rays won 2-1 to go back out in front by a game. :)
I was there! Amazing game, Beckett pitched a great game, as did the Rays starter. Masterson got into a little trouble, and then a ball to the wall won it.
Quote from: jbell96 on September 16, 2008, 10:57:34 pm
It looks like Josh conveniently forgot to post the Rays/Sox score. Rays won 2-1 to go back out in front by a game. :)
I've calmed down a little bit since then. Beckett pitches a gem for the 2nd straight start against Tampa and it goes to waste. However, I think him having another great start and showing he's ready for October is even more important than the result. He's the best postseason pitcher in baseball today and it's a relief to see him back to form.
Win tomorrow and take the series and we're back tied again.
Quote from: AB™ on September 16, 2008, 10:39:35 pm
Ouch. Victor Martinez hit a walk-off homer and the Twins fall to the Indians 12-9, and fall behind the White Sox by 2.5 game.s
It's slowly starting to slip away for Minnesota.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 16, 2008, 11:37:58 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on September 16, 2008, 10:57:34 pm
It looks like Josh conveniently forgot to post the Rays/Sox score. Rays won 2-1 to go back out in front by a game. :)
I've calmed down a little bit since then. Beckett pitches a gem for the 2nd straight start against Tampa and it goes to waste. However, I think him having another great start and showing he's ready for October is even more important than the result. He's the best postseason pitcher in baseball today and it's a relief to see him back to form.
Win tomorrow and take the series and we're back tied again.
I just added a bunch of pics from the game on Facebook. If yall win tomorrow, you're still down half a game though, right?
Quote from: Rizzo on September 16, 2008, 11:52:20 pmIf yall win tomorrow, you're still down half a game though, right?
No, we're 1 game back as of right now. Win tomorrow and we're tied.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 17, 2008, 12:10:22 am
Quote from: Rizzo on September 16, 2008, 11:52:20 pmIf yall win tomorrow, you're still down half a game though, right?
No, we're 1 game back as of right now. Win tomorrow and we're tied.
You sure? The Sox were down a half game going into last night, Rays won, putting them up a game and a half.
That posted twice, dunno why.
Rays 89-60
Sox 89-62
That's a 1 game lead but 2 in the loss column. If Tampa can win their "games in hand" then they will win the division.
Quote from: SMC on September 17, 2008, 09:28:05 am
Rays 89-60
Sox 89-62
That's a 1 game lead but 2 in the loss column. If Tampa can win their "games in hand" then they will win the division.
Why did they go from a game and a half up to half a game up when they lost the 1st game, but only gain a half game back with their win last night?
Quote from: Rizzo on September 17, 2008, 04:40:18 pm
Quote from: SMC on September 17, 2008, 09:28:05 am
Rays 89-60
Sox 89-62
That's a 1 game lead but 2 in the loss column. If Tampa can win their "games in hand" then they will win the division.
Why did they go from a game and a half up to half a game up when they lost the 1st game, but only gain a half game back with their win last night?
If you're talking about the Rays and this current series with the Sox, they were only 1 game up and after the Sox took game one of the series that put them in a tie.
Quote from: AB™ on September 17, 2008, 04:42:07 pm
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Rays 89-60
Sox 89-62
That's a 1 game lead but 2 in the loss column. If Tampa can win their "games in hand" then they will win the division.
Why did they go from a game and a half up to half a game up when they lost the 1st game, but only gain a half game back with their win last night?
If you're talking about the Rays and this current series with the Sox, they were only 1 game up and after the Sox took game one of the series that put them in a tie.
Ahh, I thought they were a game and a half for some reason, it's all good tho, my Rays are doing work tonight.
Wild Card for the Sox.
Definitely not the ideal situation for the Sox if they want to defend their title and make it 3 in 5 years. Now they are going to have to travel across the country and play the Angels in the first round. And for some reason the Angels have not hardly got any recognition or any talk about what they've done this year and their great success. No one is talking about them but they may be the best team in baseball this year.
Ichiro did something tonight that hasn't been accomplished in over 100 years. He recorded his 8th straight season of 200+ hits.
The way I see it, it's the only bright spot of the season for M fans.
Quote from: AB™ on September 18, 2008, 01:29:32 am
Definitely not the ideal situation for the Sox if they want to defend their title and make it 3 in 5 years. Now they are going to have to travel across the country and play the Angels in the first round. And for some reason the Angels have not hardly got any recognition or any talk about what they've done this year and their great success. No one is talking about them but they may be the best team in baseball this year.
Call me crazy, but I'm truly not worried about having to face the Angels in the ALDS despite going 1-8 against them this season. They have a great team out there, but I like who we've got too.
In a short series the "ace" becomes even more important than in a 7 gamer, and Josh Beckett is as good as it gets. Combine him with Dice and Jon Lester (the latter who has actually been the best SP on our staff this year) starting the other games in the series and I don't think you will find a tougher 3 headed monster than that.
I'm not saying we will roll over the Angels, but I do think we will beat them if that's who we indeed end up facing and that's looking pretty likely right now. The only real thing I'm worried about right now are the health of JD Drew and Mike Lowell. Both are really banged up and we need them healthy for October.
In the playoffs, it's a crapshoot. Luck can win out over talent in such a short series.
The Brewers had a 3 run lead in the 9th and then go on to lose 7-6 to the Cubs in 12.
Evan Longoria has 3 homers for the Rays tonight as they are slugging it out with the Twins. They are up 8-6 in the top of the 8th.
Rays lose 11-8. :D
The Dodgers have all but wrapped up the NL West. Arizona is terrible.
That whole division is terrible. Before Manny, the Dodgers were terrible. Love him or hate him, Manny is a great player. He may finish his career with 600+ home runs and 3,000+ hits. One of the best pure hitters, IMHO, to ever play the game when it's all said in done. He has completely turned the Dodgers around this year.
I still don't think the Dodgers are very good, but unfortunately somebody has to win that division.
They aren't great, but Manny has breathed new life into them and they are playing pretty good baseball now.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 18, 2008, 10:46:10 pm
I still don't think the Dodgers are very good, but unfortunately somebody has to win that division.
worst division in sports unless you count ACC college football
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Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 18, 2008, 10:46:10 pm
I still don't think the Dodgers are very good, but unfortunately somebody has to win that division.
worst division in sports unless you count ACC college football
The Big East is worse than the ACC.
NFC West is terrible.
You can't really crossover between college and pro sports in this case anyways.
The Sun Belt, MWC, MAC, C-USA, and WAC, are all worse than the ACC. Thus, you can't compare college and pro sports divisions in this instance.
Quote from: AB™ on September 18, 2008, 05:19:00 pm
The Brewers had a 3 run lead in the 9th and then go on to lose 7-6 to the Cubs in 12.
Magic number of 2 now.
Hey Zambrano, nice line today:
1.2 6 8 8 3 1 1
No Johnny Vander Meer for you.
He didn't have it going today.
Although, being 32 over sure beats being 19 under :)
No doubt. (I assume that's a Braves ref...I have the standings on block out)
Red Sox held off Toronto 4-3 to keep within 1 1/2 of the Rays. I don't think we'll catch them, but there's still a shot it could happen.
The Cubs held on to beat the Cardinals and in doing so clinced the Central. Looks like their first round matchup will be the Phillies or Mets. That is unless the Brewers can get on a roll and come back and claim the wildcard.
Rays clinched a playoff spot.
Losing to the Indians tonight pretty much makes us a lock for the Wild Card. Bring on the Angels.
Huge series going on right now between us and the CWS. We are 2 1/2 down unfortunately, but we close with KC and they close with Cleveland. If we sweep, which I doubt we do, I am pretty sure we will make the playoffs. If we lose it is over. If we take 2/3 it will be a tight finish.
...And the Red Sox are going back to the playoffs! We just clinched a spot. All the guys are celebrating and having a great time back on the field now. You know Jason Bay is lovin' this playing his entire career to this point with the Pirates. Bring on the Angels.
Oh, and the Yankees can suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck it!!! Have fun sitting at home losers. :)
Twins are up 9-1 in the 7th. We just keep pouring it on. Kubel and Young just homered back to back. This will move us to within 1 1/2. If necessary, CWS still have a game they have to make up.
I hope the Twins and White Sox tie for the division and force a 1 game playoff, just to see an extra game like we did last year with the Rockies and Padres.
Blackburn got us out of a jam in the 2nd. CWS had the bases loaded and they only scored one. It is 3-1 in the bottom of the 3rd. We continue to show why we are the best hitting team in baseball with runners in scoring position.
Twins win 3-2 to move a half game behind the White Sox
Brewers win 4-2 and move a half game behind the Mets who are tied 6-6 in the 10th with the Cubs.
Quote from: jbell96 on September 24, 2008, 09:59:42 pm
Twins win 3-2 to move a half game behind the White Sox
Brewers win 4-2 and move a half game behind the Mets who are tied 6-6 in the 10th with the Cubs.
Huge win for us. If we win tomorrow I don't see us giving up the lead. We finish with KC and they finish with Cleveland. I highly doubt we lose the series to KC, and could even sweep them. A sweep over CWS would be huge for obvious reasons. I am already anxious for tomorrow.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 23, 2008, 09:28:12 pm
I hope the Twins and White Sox tie for the division and force a 1 game playoff, just to see an extra game like we did last year with the Rockies and Padres.
Is that what would happen? I am not sure, but I thought for the division tie breakers it is head-to-head. If it is still tied after that than you go to the two teams' record within the division. I thought the 1 game playoff was only the tiebreaker for the wild card. I am probably wrong though. If it is head-to-head, if we win tomorrow we have it. If CWS wins it is a tie. White Sox still have a game to make up if necessary.
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Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 23, 2008, 09:28:12 pm
I hope the Twins and White Sox tie for the division and force a 1 game playoff, just to see an extra game like we did last year with the Rockies and Padres.
Is that what would happen? I am not sure, but I thought for the division tie breakers it is head-to-head. If it is still tied after that than you go to the two teams' record within the division. I thought the 1 game playoff was only the tiebreaker for the wild card. I am probably wrong though. If it is head-to-head, if we win tomorrow we have it. If CWS wins it is a tie. White Sox still have a game to make up if necessary.
The only way that the head-to-head tiebreaker is applied is if they are both guaranteed a playoff spot.
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Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 23, 2008, 09:28:12 pm
I hope the Twins and White Sox tie for the division and force a 1 game playoff, just to see an extra game like we did last year with the Rockies and Padres.
Is that what would happen? I am not sure, but I thought for the division tie breakers it is head-to-head. If it is still tied after that than you go to the two teams' record within the division. I thought the 1 game playoff was only the tiebreaker for the wild card. I am probably wrong though. If it is head-to-head, if we win tomorrow we have it. If CWS wins it is a tie. White Sox still have a game to make up if necessary.
The only way that the head-to-head tiebreaker is applied is if they are both guaranteed a playoff spot.
Oh, ok. Well the only way we end in a tie is if we are 1/2 apart after this last series. If we are up 1/2 and the CWS win their make up game or if we are down half a game and the CWS lose their makeup game is how it will have to end in a tie.
CWS-0
Twins-1
Bottom of the 2nd.
Cubs are going to be tough in a 5 game series.
Slowey was pitching good for us striking out 3 in 3 innings and not giving up a hit. Here in the 4th he has given up a solo shot and a few other hits. CWS takes the lead 2-1 now with 2 outs and a runner on third. I am not too worried as long as we can keep them to 2 runs. I don't see CWS holding us to 1 run tonight but I guess we will see. We really need to win this game.
Slowey has fallen apart. Bases were loaded and the ball was hit back to him and he made a bad throw scoring 3 more. CWS are in the middle of a 6 run inning. Ridiculous... lose this and we likely don't make the playoffs. They better wake up.
The Twins have fought back so far. They are currently down 6-4 in the 7th after being down 6-1 after the 4th. We keep leaving runners stranded. We have 11 hits to their 6 but just cannot push more across the plate. We are the best hitting team in baseball while runners are in scoring position. Hopefully that shows a little more in the last few innings or we may be sitting at home in October.
Denard Span triples to tie the game!! 6-6 in the bottom of the 8th. We have Span on third with 1 out.
You have a new AL Central leader!!!!
Casilla hits a single in the bottom of the 10th to win. Twins are 1/2 a game up now going into the final series against KC.
That Minnesota/Chicago game was incredible. I got home in time to catch the 9th and 10th. I think there's a pretty good chance the Twins and White Sox both sweep this weekend, forcing Chicago to play their make up game and who knows, maybe we'll see the 1 game playoff.
We are 11-4 vs KC this season. We swept them once at home. We only have 2 losses to them in the Metrodome and haven't lost a series to them yet this season. I like our chances.
Looks like there is a LOT of rain in the forecast for games all over MLB tonight. That could cause a lot of problems backing up some of these pennant races and such.
Cleveland is up 1-0 on the CWS right now. If by some chance the Twins win and the CWS lose than the worst case scenario for the Twins would be finishing the season 1/2 a game back and forcing the White Sox to play their makeup game against Detroit to decide if they win the division or if there is a tie breaker. I feel pretty confident if we do win and CWS lose though it is all but over. I don't see us losing our first series to KC this weekend, especially in the dome.
Great. CWS have taken a 4-2 lead and KC has had a 4 run inning so we are down 4-0. We get the lead one night and may lose it the next. It is ridiculous. I am biased, but I honestly think we are the better team. If we lose tonight and don't win out we won't make the playoffs.
Somehow, KC is up 6-0 on us. I am a little shocked right now. I didn't expect this. I am following the Cleveland game pretty close right now though hoping they can win so that it won't matter. They just took the lead 5-4 and have runners on 2nd and first with 0 outs in the 5th. Hopefully they can add on a few more runs before this inning is up.
Cleveland grand slam. 9-4 Cleveland with 0 outs still in the 5th.
Rays clinched the AL East tonight. Gotta hand it to them - they earned it.
Phillies won. Brewers won. Mets lost.
Phillies can clinch the NL East tomorrow.
Twins remain 1/2 game ahead of the White Sox in the AL Central.
Our offense is missing. We haven't lost a series to the Royals all year, and it looks like we are going to now. We were up 2-0 and now down 4-2 in bottom of the 9th at the top of the order. I really hope CWS loses tonight. I don't see KC sweeping us so a loss by CWS tonight would have me feeling a little better. It is ridiculous that we can sweep CWS at home but lose 2 to KC.
Cleveland and CWS are tied at 1 in the second.
Twins had the bases loaded with 1 out in the 8th and failed to scoring grounding out into a double play. Twins had 2 on and 0 out and grounded into another double play. We had 2 outs and a runner at 3rd and ended the game. What we have been known for all season has been left out the last 2 games. We haven't been able to capitalize on runners being in scoring position.
I will be surprised, but thrilled if we have the lead after tonight. A win tomorrow and we will force CWS to play Detroit for their makeup game though.
Cleveland is trying to help us out again. Javy Vazquez is blowing another game as of right now. Cleveland just doubled with bases loaded to make it 4-1.
I hope Braves fan don't get offended by this, but what is up with Chipper not playing and sitting on the batting title race?
Got me, but I'm not giong to get to worked up over it. He's at the tail end of his career, the Braves have sucked this year, and this gives him something to savor from this season.
Chicago lost again tonight. They blew another lead, just like us. However, this is their 5th or 6th loss in a row. I love this choke job they have done. Hopefully they will get swept tomorrow and we can win to clinch the Central.
So if everything falls into place, we have the potential for not 1, but TWO one game playoffs.
Please. Make this happen. I want to see as much bonus baseball as I possibly can.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 28, 2008, 01:28:33 am
So if everything falls into place, we have the potential for not 1, but TWO one game playoffs.
Please. Make this happen. I want to see as much bonus baseball as I possibly can.
I would prefer us to end it tonight. I don't want to go to Chicago on tuesday, even if they are in a slump and we will have a day of rest and they won't.
Some notable scores from MLB today:
Mets 0, Marlins 0 - 3rd
Cubs 1, Brewers 0 - 2nd
White Sox 1, Indians 1 - 2nd
Twins 0, Royals 0 - 2nd
Twins are currently up 2-0 going into the 4th. CWS are up on Cleveland 3-1 in the bottom of the 5th.
Mets just hit a 2 run homer to tie the game up 2-2 in the 6th.
It looks like the Twins are going to win. They are up 4-0 in the bottom of the 8th. Chicago will play Detroit tomorrow. I am a big Tiger fan tomorrow.
Brewers win 3-1. Sabathia threw his 10th CG.
Mets lose 4-2 and are eliminated. Ryan Church flew out to the warning track to end the game with a runner on. Two straight years being eliminated at home by the Marlins on the last day of the season. That has to be hard to take.
White Sox will play the Tigers tomorrow. Hopefully they can win and force the 1 game playoff.
That will be utterly hilarious if the last place Tigers beat the ChiSox on the southside to eliminate them.
Quote from: SMC on September 28, 2008, 10:25:08 pm
That will be utterly hilarious if the last place Tigers beat the ChiSox on the southside to eliminate them.
I doubt it happens, but it could. Detroit has a lot of talent. They just, obviously, didn't put it together this year. Besides, CWS have been in a slump as of late. I realize this post likely will jynx the Twins and the CWS will win both games though.
My MVP's and Cy Youngs:
NL Cy Young: Tim Lincecum
AL Cy Young: Cliff Lee
NL MVP: Albert Pujols
AL MVP: Dustin Pedroia
Morneau for AL MVP!
I got a huge scare earlier when I heard Josh Beckett was questionable for the ALDS with an oblique injury. As it turns out he's going to pitch, but it won't be until Game 3 on Sunday. Instead, we're going with Lester in Game 1, Dice in Game 2, and Beckett in Game 3.
I like our chances sending those 3 out there. I don't think there's a better 3 headed monster in the playoffs when you factor in Beckett's postseason dominance over the years. And yes, I'm including Dempster/Zambrano/Harden.
Wednesday can't get here soon enough.
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Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on September 28, 2008, 11:46:41 pm
Morneau for AL MVP!
Pedroia > Morneau
That is all.
Before I give my thought on the AL MVP, let's just look at their numbers.
Pedroia: 17 HR, 83 RBI, 118 R, .376 OBP, .493 SLG%, .868 OPS, .326 AVG, 73 XBH
Morneau: 23 HR, 129 RBI, 96 R, .375 OBP, .504 SLG%, .879 OPS, .303 AVG, 74 XBH
Pedroia batted .307 with RISP, Morneau .358. RISP, 2 out; Pedroia .231, Morneau .342. That is a fair sample, Pedroia had 163 and 78 AB in each respective situation, Morneau 176 and 79.
Those are some numbers I like to see when looking at MVP candidates because it is a good sample of how effective a player has been and also how they have come through when their team really needed them. However, I also like to take into affect how well a player has played the last couple of months of the season when the divisional races are most heated. In my opinion, a player that has had an MVP season, and couples that with playing great baseball down the stretch, is what I look for most in an MVP candidate. And this is where Pedroia gets the nod. In 26 August games Pedroia belted out 43 hits and scored 33 runs, the first time any player has ever produced those kind of numbers since Lou Gehrig did it in June of 1936.
Here is each player's September numbers.
Pedroia: 88 AB, 2 HR, 15 RBI, 12 R, .388 OBP, .523 SLG%, .911 OPS, .318 AVG
Morneau: 88 AB, 2 HR, 21 RBI, 13 R, .320 OBP, .455 SLG%, .775 OPS, .273 AVG
Pedroia has been the better player down the stretch. That is why he should get the nod as AL MVP. Both are very deserving of winning the award. I just feel Pedrioa is more deserving. I know I'm going to offend Jeff with this and I'm sure he'll come back with a fair and good argument. What I look at to see who I ould pick as MVP probably isn't what the majority of the people that actually have a vote look at. That's just my two cents.
Quote from: AB™ on September 29, 2008, 01:08:52 am
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 29, 2008, 12:06:36 am
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on September 28, 2008, 11:46:41 pm
Morneau for AL MVP!
Pedroia > Morneau
That is all.
Before I give my thought on the AL MVP, let's just look at their numbers.
Pedroia: 17 HR, 83 RBI, 118 R, .376 OBP, .493 SLG%, .868 OPS, .326 AVG, 73 XBH
Morneau: 23 HR, 129 RBI, 96 R, .375 OBP, .504 SLG%, .879 OPS, .303 AVG, 74 XBH
Pedroia batted .307 with RISP, Morneau .358. RISP, 2 out; Pedroia .231, Morneau .342. That is a fair sample, Pedroia had 163 and 78 AB in each respective situation, Morneau 176 and 79.
Those are some numbers I like to see when looking at MVP candidates because it is a good sample of how effective a player has been and also how they have come through when their team really needed them. However, I also like to take into affect how well a player has played the last couple of months of the season when the divisional races are most heated. In my opinion, a player that has had an MVP season, and couples that with playing great baseball down the stretch, is what I look for most in an MVP candidate. And this is where Pedroia gets the nod. In 26 August games Pedroia belted out 43 hits and scored 33 runs, the first time any player has ever produced those kind of numbers since Lou Gehrig did it in June of 1936.
Here is each player's September numbers.
Pedroia: 88 AB, 2 HR, 15 RBI, 12 R, .388 OBP, .523 SLG%, .911 OPS, .318 AVG
Morneau: 88 AB, 2 HR, 21 RBI, 13 R, .320 OBP, .455 SLG%, .775 OPS, .273 AVG
Pedroia has been the better player down the stretch. That is why he should get the nod as AL MVP. Both are very deserving of winning the award. I just feel Pedrioa is more deserving. I know I'm going to offend Jeff with this and I'm sure he'll come back with a fair and good argument. What I look at to see who I ould pick as MVP probably isn't what the majority of the people that actually have a vote look at. That's just my two cents.
No, you didn't offend me. Pedroia is a good player. In my opinion, Morneau is better and has been a huge part of the Twins even making it a race in the Al Central. Most predicted us 3rd or 4th and at one point we were I think 8 back. I just don't think we would be where we are without Morneau. Both are deserving though.
Those numbers are so close. The OBP, slug, and OPS numbers nearly identical. The only really big edge is to Morneau in RBI.
Looking at their sabermetric stats, it's still close. And these stats usually separate players fairly well.
RC27 - Pedroia 6.89, Morneau 6.56
Love that stat, it calculates how many runs per game the team would score if the player took every at-bat in the game. RC27 = Runs Created Per 27 Outs. So a team of 9 Pedroias would score a few more runs a game than 9 Morneaus
ISO (isolated power percentage, which is SLG-AVG, taking out the singles) - basically the percentage of ABs you get an extra base hit
Morneau .200
Pedroia .167
The numbers between the two are very close. This is going to be a very close race. Both players have a legit claim at the award.
Quote from: AB™ on September 29, 2008, 12:48:18 pm
The numbers between the two are very close.
Definitely. I think Pedroia's defense puts him over the top though. I've watched almost every Red Sox game this season and he makes one or two plays (at least) per game that make you say wow. Hard to believe this is only his 2nd full year in the league.
By the way, the White Sox and Tigers are about to get underway on ESPN2 at 1:00.
Baseball sucks. They bunch everything together. Right now the game is in a rain delay. Hopefully they make sure they play it today. It will be pretty pathetic if they end up playing tomorrow, then Twins and CWS possibly Wednesday. The winner would have to turn around and play Tampa the next day in Tampa.
Not saying I completely disagree with what you're saying Jeff. I just find it a little funny. As sports fans we complain about how spread out the NBA playoffs are and now we've got a sports fan upset about how bunched up the MLB playoffs can be.
Quote from: AB™ on September 29, 2008, 02:39:50 pm
Not saying I completely disagree with what you're saying Jeff. I just find it a little funny. As sports fans we complain about how spread out the NBA playoffs are and now we've got a sports fan upset about how bunched up the MLB playoffs can be.
I don't ever complain about the NBA playoffs. However, I think that is a different thing. Most people complain about the playoff series being so spread out, not the start of the playoffs being too long after the regular season. There are 2 days off between the regular season ending and the start of the playoffs in baseball. That leaves little room for a makeup game such as the one today. It hurts pitching and creates an unfair advantage. I guess it all goes back on the teams though for not producing when they needed to. We could have avoided it by winning.
It does hurt pitching and I agree it can be an unfair advantage for a few teams each post season. However, this year it looks like it is only going to really affect the Twins/White Sox and Brewers. All the other playoff teams have had time to get their rotation set.
With that said I can even see more so why you would be upset this particular post season. ;)
I missed the first two innings, but the White Sox/Tigers game is underway. White Sox have a 1-0 lead in the top of the 3rd inning.
The rain delay really looked like it is hurting the turnout for the game so far. It barely looks like it is 3/4 full. It is only the 3rd inning though so I guess there is a possibility more fans could still show up.
The Tigers just missed out ona golden opportunity to take the lead in the 5th. They scored one run and had runners on 1st and 3rd with no outs. Floyd struck out the next two batters and got Sheffield to ground out after giving up three hits to the first three batters of the inning. The Tigers are stealing at will on Floyd though due to his slow delivery. I don't expect to see Floyd in there past the 6th inning unless he can get the Tigers 1-2-3 in the 6th.
Tigers 1
White Sox 1
Bottom 5th
EDIT: Floyd just made a huge error. He couldn't handle a little dribbler by Raburn and his throw to first sailed over Konerko's head. Thames came into score and Raburn is on second. Tigers are up 2-1 now heading into the bottom of the 6th.
And the Tigers take the lead in the 6th, 2 to 1, thanks to a throwing error from the pitcher.
Floyd airmails a throw over 1st on a tapper to the mound, and the Tigers take the lead! lol
For a big game, it's remarkably boring.
It has been a slow game. Only 7 total hits and some sloppy baseball from the White Sox. They are lucky the Tigers aren't winning by 3-5 runs. Chicago only has 2 hits so far.
Steve Phillips jinxed Galarraga. He was bragging about how good he's been all year long, as a result he comes in relief for Garcia who was pitching well up to this point. He throws back to back wild pitches and the White Sox have tied the game up. Now we are starting to see some excitement in this game.
Alexei Freaking Ramirez!!! The best AL rookie not named Evan Longoria hits a grand slam to put the Sox up 6-2. This game went from boring to exciting real fast.
That one game playoff tomorrow is starting to look more and more like a possibility. Gotta love some bonus baseball.
Now it's not boring. A GS in a one-game playoff. Dream stuff.
Quote from: QF© on September 29, 2008, 06:29:07 pm
Now it's not boring. A GS in a one-game playoff. Dream stuff.
One game playoff? This is considered a regular season makeup game.
Quick question for someone that knows the tie breaker rules. Why do we have to go to Chicago for the one game playoff tomorrow when we hold the head-to-head?
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on September 29, 2008, 07:09:47 pm
Quote from: QF© on September 29, 2008, 06:29:07 pm
Now it's not boring. A GS in a one-game playoff. Dream stuff.
One game playoff? This is considered a regular season makeup game.
In essence it's a one game playoff. ::)
Jeff, for one game playoff tiebreakers the home team is decided by a coin flip.
Had the White Sox and Twins finished the season tied and with a better record than the second place teams in the East and West(Red Sox and Rangers), then the team that won the head-to-head in the regular season would be the division winner and the other team would be given the wild card berth. The White Sox and Twins finished 7 games back of the Red Sox and 1 game back of the Yankees in the Wild Card, so obviously neither team was in position for the latter scenario to play out.
Quote from: AB™ on September 29, 2008, 07:58:21 pm
Jeff, for one game playoff tiebreakers the home team is decided by a coin flip.
Had the White Sox and Twins finished the season tied and with a better record than the second place teams in the East and West(Red Sox and Rangers), then the team that won the head-to-head in the regular season would be the division winner and the other team would be given the wild card berth. The White Sox and Twins finished 7 games back of the Red Sox and 1 game back of the Yankees in the Wild Card, so obviously neither team was in position for the latter scenario to play out.
Makes more sense to award the team that won more head-to-head. However, if I was a CWS fan I would probably be asking for a coin flip. :)
I am a little nervous about tomorrow, but regardless I know we are young and didn't expect us to do this good this year. Overall, I am pretty happy with this season.
If Chicago wins tomorrow they are going to be dead tired for their series with the Rays. They will have played two games in two days and then have to board a plane to Florida to start their series with TB on Thursday.
Quote from: AB™ on September 29, 2008, 08:09:33 pm
If Chicago wins tomorrow they are going to be dead tired for their series with the Rays. They will have played two games in two days and then have to board a plane to Florida to start their series with TB on Thursday.
The White Sox haven't won 3 games in a row in like a month and a half so that is encouraging news for Twins fans.
Not disagreeing. I think the Twins win tomorrow.
Quote from: AB™ on September 29, 2008, 08:21:47 pm
Not disagreeing. I think the Twins win tomorrow.
I sure hope so. I am a little worried. I seriously jynx a team anytime I open my mouth about them so I am just going to keep quiet until the game is over.
Quote from: AB™ on September 29, 2008, 08:09:33 pm
If Chicago wins tomorrow they are going to be dead tired for their series with the Rays.
I think the Rays will handle their opponent in the ALDS, regardless if it's the White Sox or Twins.
Looking forward to the one game playoff tomorrow though.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 29, 2008, 08:50:57 pm
Quote from: AB™ on September 29, 2008, 08:09:33 pm
If Chicago wins tomorrow they are going to be dead tired for their series with the Rays.
I think the Rays will handle their opponent in the ALDS, regardless if it's the White Sox or Twins.
Looking forward to the one game playoff tomorrow though.
Handle as in win, or handle as in Twins/CWS won't even compete. I think the Rays win regardless of who they play, but I can promise if the Twins play them it will be a good series. We only played them 6 times, but went 3-3 against them. I don't think they will coast by any means if we happen to make it.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on September 29, 2008, 08:55:50 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on September 29, 2008, 08:50:57 pm
Quote from: AB™ on September 29, 2008, 08:09:33 pm
If Chicago wins tomorrow they are going to be dead tired for their series with the Rays.
I think the Rays will handle their opponent in the ALDS, regardless if it's the White Sox or Twins.
Looking forward to the one game playoff tomorrow though.
Handle as in win, or handle as in Twins/CWS won't even compete. I think the Rays win regardless of who they play, but I can promise if the Twins play them it will be a good series. We only played them 6 times, but went 3-3 against them. I don't think they will coast by any means if we happen to make it.
Handle as in win the series in 4.
Didn't intend to sound like they will completely overwhelm them, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a sweep. Again this goes for either team they play. I just think the Rays are too good.
Let's see who can manufacture some runs tomorrow.
Mike Golic made a good point on Mike & Mike this morning. He mentioned that the Twins should play at home in the one game playoff since they won the season series. Maybe MLB will look into that in the future and only use coin flips if the season series is a tie.
Quote from: jbell96 on September 30, 2008, 02:44:50 pm
Mike Golic made a good point on Mike & Mike this morning. He mentioned that the Twins should play at home in the one game playoff since they won the season series. Maybe MLB will look into that in the future and only use coin flips if the season series is a tie.
That is what I was saying. I thought that was how they did it at first. It is a little crappy that we beat them 2 more times than they beat us in the regular season but we have to go there for the tiebreaker.
Olney has the Twins winning. Everyone on Around the Horn just said they expect the Twins to win because we just swept them and they are pitching Danks, who has only had 3 days rest and has a 7+ ERA vs the Twins. I do like that we will have pretty much all pitchers available if needed, but hopefully they aren't jynxing us.
In a pitcher's duel at the Cell, Thome just cranked a bomb out to center field to put the White Sox ahead 1-0 in the bottom of the 7th.
That might be the difference in this game.
I like Thome. Something tells me this finishes 2-1 Sox.
I thought the Twins would lead but I have to admit I'm pulling for the White Sox.
Griffey has always been one of my favorite players and I just want to see him have another shot at getting that World Series ring that has been eluding him his entire career.
Quote from: AB™ on September 30, 2008, 08:24:28 pm
The White Sox take the lead on an RBI double by Griffey. White Sox are up 1-0 in the bottom of the 7th.
No Thome homered. No one on for that double. ;)
The Kid came a few feet from putting another home run on the board.
Griffey would be the reason I'm rooting for the ChiSox as well. If they don't win, this very well could be the end of his illustrious career.
Quote from: QF© on September 30, 2008, 08:25:27 pm
Quote from: AB™ on September 30, 2008, 08:24:28 pm
The White Sox take the lead on an RBI double by Griffey. White Sox are up 1-0 in the bottom of the 7th.
No Thome homered. No one on for that double. ;)
You quoted and posted it just as I was editing it. I had to step out of the room for like 10 minutes. When I left it was 0-0. When I got back in the room it was 1-0 and Griffey was coming into second base. I just assumed he knocked in the run. My mistake. ;D
The Twins are officially down to their last three outs.
Kubel K's.
1 down.
Span grounds out.
The Twins season is about to come to an end.
I hate my life. Why can't any team I support make it? Baseball should go to head-to-head for who gets home. That coin flip screwed us.
Rays will kill the CWS.
Wow what a catch to end it!
White Sox win 1-0. What a game. I love baseball.
So, that official sets up the playoffs. Who's everyone got?
ALDS
Red Sox @ Angels - Red Sox in 4
White Sox @ Rays - Rays in 3
NLDS
Dodgers @ Cubs - Cubs in 4
Brewers @ Phillies - Phillies in 3
Angels in 5
Rays in 3
Cubs in 4
Phillies in 4
I don't think it can be overstated - it is GREAT to see Harold Reynolds back doing baseball games again. He was one of the announcers for the game tonight and will be doing games on TBS throughout the postseason. Welcome back. The world needs more Harold Reynolds.
I love the fact that Reynolds was doing games for TBS tonight. It took me to realize he was back but he is definitely one of my favorite, if not my sible favrite, baseball guy.
The only drawback for me with the 1st round games is that I don't have TBS in HD.
That said,
AL
Angels in 5
Rays in 4
NL
Phillies in 4
Cubs in 5
Didn't see where anyone mentioned this but the Yankees signed GM Brian Cashman to a 3 year extension... and they gave him a raise! Unbelievable. Thanks for that though.
HAHA!
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 01, 2008, 02:05:17 pm
Didn't see where anyone mentioned this but the Yankees signed GM Brian Cashman to a 3 year extension... and they gave him a raise! Unbelievable. Thanks for that though.
HAHA!
I hope they keep him forever.
HAHA. Way to go scumbag.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3651459
Also there's been no talk about the possibility of Jake Peavy being traded this offseason. There's quite a few NL teams he has said he'd accept trades to. There were a few AL teams mentioned as well, but I see Peavy as a career NL type player. Plus, his stats would obviously go up pitching in a much tougher league if he went the AL route. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 19, 2008, 03:32:42 pm
Also there's been no talk about the possibility of Jake Peavy being traded this offseason. There's quite a few NL teams he has said he'd accept trades to. There were a few AL teams mentioned as well, but I see Peavy as a career NL type player. Plus, his stats would obviously go up pitching in a much tougher league if he went the AL route. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
I heard some talk about that the other day. He is a very good pitcher. I don't think there would be much of a drop off if he went to an AL team. I agree that the AL lineups are tougher but Peavy is a good pitcher. I hope he doesn't end up in a Mets uniform. The Mets are already going to be big players in the Manny sweepstakes.
I didn't mention this earlier because I wanted to do some research before I said so. I think we(Braves)may be pretty big players in going after Peavy. If the Atlanta management wants to regain my trust that they are building to make us a National League power again they will do whatever they can to get this done. We will more than likely have to get rid of either Escobar or Kelly Johnson and some prospects, but we need an ace on this staff. Peavy had a 10-11 record but that is more due to the Padres being terrible this year. He still had a 2.85 ERA and in the right setting he is still a Cy Young caliber pitcher. I would love for us to land Peavy.
Either way it looks like it is going to come down to us and a handful of other teams. We may actually be the front runners.
http://www.talkingchop.com/
AB a friend of mine in ATL says they are looking at AJ Burnett and someone else that escapes me at the moment.
Quote from: QF© on October 19, 2008, 08:31:46 pm
AB a friend of mine in ATL says they are looking at AJ Burnett and someone else that escapes me at the moment.
Burnett? Wow, surprising. He is going to command A LOT of money. Not quite as much as Tex will get, but regardless his contract will be a big one. If Atlanta does end up signing him for big bucks it makes you wonder why they didn't just keep Tex and re-sign him to begin with.
I think they are pretty happy with their farm system as far as position players. But they know they know the one thing they've lacked is consistent starting pitching for the last few years. Some due to injury and some do to poor performance. They've certainly had some no names step up for them, but not to the level ATL has had in the past.
Smoltz and Hudson are in doubt for Spring Training. It's easy to see they are in trouble at SP.
Quote from: QF© on October 19, 2008, 08:31:46 pm
AB a friend of mine in ATL says they are looking at AJ Burnett and someone else that escapes me at the moment.
Along with Peavy or instead of Peavy? Burnett had a great season in the most brutal division in baseball, especially for pitchers. I don't know how deep our pockets are and I seriously doubt we sign Burnett if we land Peavy. if we could find a way not to give up too much for Peavy I'd be more than happy with getting him. Of course, I'd be ecstatic if we could find a way to get both of them.
Josh, like QF said, as far as position players go we are pretty set in our farm system. We have a very good crop of young and talented position players that will obviously take time to become good every day position players. We are more than just hurting though for good starting pitching. Jo-Jo and Jurjens I think will end up being pretty good but after that we don't have anything.
Word is they want 2. Burnett and the other I can't think of was out there first and Peavy was a recently added name. We know the Braves have won't sign all of them, but they are dangling Jeff F. in some deals. I believe they will search high and low to trade for one front line starter and sign one of the free agent market.
That's my hope. :)
I don't know if I'm ready yet let go of Francouer. He has been a dissapointment at the plate after his rookie year. He is a great commodity in the outfield with his cannon arm. But if we could get to top of the line starters and lose Jeff I wouldn't be too upset about it. We've got some good young talented outfielders that played quite a bit this year and in our farm system.
I want Francouer to stay, but if they can get value for him in a SP that would be alrught. But I hope it doesn't come to that.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 19, 2008, 03:32:42 pm
Also there's been no talk about the possibility of Jake Peavy being traded this offseason. There's quite a few NL teams he has said he'd accept trades to. There were a few AL teams mentioned as well, but I see Peavy as a career NL type player. Plus, his stats would obviously go up pitching in a much tougher league if he went the AL route. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
I really hope the Cards make a run at Peavy. They have plenty of cash & prospects to get him if they want.
Quote from: jbell96 on October 19, 2008, 10:35:38 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 19, 2008, 03:32:42 pm
Also there's been no talk about the possibility of Jake Peavy being traded this offseason. There's quite a few NL teams he has said he'd accept trades to. There were a few AL teams mentioned as well, but I see Peavy as a career NL type player. Plus, his stats would obviously go up pitching in a much tougher league if he went the AL route. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
I really hope the Cards make a run at Peavy. They have plenty of cash & prospects to get him if they want.
Right now, the Cards aren't even a player in the Peavy lottery.
I guess I misinterpreted a Post Dispatch article from last week. I can't believe we aren't pursuing him.
Quote from: jbell96 on October 20, 2008, 02:12:30 pm
I guess I misinterpreted a Post Dispatch article from last week. I can't believe we aren't pursuing him.
They may have been last week. The latest I've heard on it though Atlanta, the Dodgers, and even Cubs are the front runners in the NL. He wants to stay in the NL but don't be surprised to see the Yankees throw some money at him.
Quote from: jbell96 on October 20, 2008, 02:12:30 pm
I guess I misinterpreted a Post Dispatch article from last week. I can't believe we aren't pursuing him.
There are small rumblings out of Stl that we may make a push for him.
Houston as emerged as well.
Quote from: jbell96 on October 20, 2008, 02:12:30 pm
I can't believe we aren't pursuing him.
I can. When was the last time the Cardinals signed a big time player, much less traded for one?
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 20, 2008, 07:58:20 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on October 20, 2008, 02:12:30 pm
I can't believe we aren't pursuing him.
I can. When was the last time the Cardinals signed a big time player, much less traded for one?
Mulder. Worked out great ::)
Quote from: AB™ on October 20, 2008, 02:33:34 pmThe latest I've heard on it though Atlanta, the Dodgers, and even Cubs are the front runners in the NL. He wants to stay in the NL but don't be surprised to see the Yankees throw some money at him.
Atlanta's GM came out yesterday and said he won't be trading any top prospects, meaning Peavy isn't coming to the Braves.
I also read where Peter Gammons said he thinks Peavy is a 5 inning pitcher in the AL. He said Peavy's style of pitching + AL lineups - NL pitcher's spot could have a really bad effect on him. He also thinks Peavy realizes this, thus why he wants to stay in the NL. I think Gammons is dead on here too.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on October 24, 2008, 06:04:13 pm
Quote from: AB™ on October 20, 2008, 02:33:34 pmThe latest I've heard on it though Atlanta, the Dodgers, and even Cubs are the front runners in the NL. He wants to stay in the NL but don't be surprised to see the Yankees throw some money at him.
Atlanta's GM came out yesterday and said he won't be trading any top prospects, meaning Peavy isn't coming to the Braves.
I also read where Peter Gammons said he thinks Peavy is a 5 inning pitcher in the AL. He said Peavy's style of pitching + AL lineups - NL pitcher's spot could have a really bad effect on him. He also thinks Peavy realizes this, thus why he wants to stay in the NL. I think Gammons is dead on here too.
Not true. I'm still reading and hearing that we are still the best fit for a Peavy trade and probably still the leaders to land him. Wren only said we will not trade our top prospects. Most notably our top pitching prospect Tommy Hanson. We have accumulated a pretty deep pool of talent in our farm systems and have depth to couple in some of the bigger but not biggest prospects along with a Kelly Johnson or Yunel Escobar to get Peavy.
I would rather package Kelly Johnson with a prospect or two because I think Escobar is going to be a very good player. However, if we do end up having to package Escobar with a prospect, the Prado I feel can pick up the slack.
We are in no way out of the Peavy sweepstakes. In fact, from what I have been reading in the couple of Braves blogs I follow and even heard on ESPN earlier today that we are probably still the leaders to land him.
www.talkingchop.com
http://www.bravesblast.com/
Not trying to contradict you or anything Josh. I'm just trying to say that right now we are in no way shape, form, or fashion, out of the Peavy sweepstakes. We are still very much in it and probably still the leaders. I think our management feels if we land Peavy and can find a way to sign Burnett we can compete next year and not 2 or 3 years from now. When we get Huddy back, and if we can get Peavy, and Burnett, then that will be as good of a 1-2-3 punch as there is in all of baseball. I do feel if we want to seriously contend next year we will also have to pursue a free agent with a big bat, and land at least Peavy.
As for Peavy not being as good of a pitcher in the AL, I am not disagreeing. However, him only being a 5 inning pitcher may be a stretch. Gammons, like yourself, is a Red Sox guy, and I know feel very strongly the AL is the superior league. I'm not disagreeing because it obviously has been for a while now. But I have a hard time believing Peavy would be a run of the mill pitcher in the AL.
I think when it comes down to it for the Braves if they can land Peavy, they'll have to make a choice between Burnett and a big bat because I don't think they'll shell out enough to get both.
Quote from: RHS on October 24, 2008, 09:37:36 pm
I think when it comes down to it for the Braves if they can land Peavy, they'll have to make a choice between Burnett and a big bat because I don't think they'll shell out enough to get both.
Same here. However, I think we can still get someone like Xavier Nady if we get both Peavy and Burnett. I wouldn't mind seeing us go after Pat Burrell if he can have repeat of his 2008 season. He had been a pretty big flop in his career up until this year.
Quote from: AB™ on October 24, 2008, 09:31:52 pmNot true. I'm still reading and hearing that we are still the best fit for a Peavy trade and probably still the leaders to land him. Wren only said we will not trade our top prospects. Most notably our top pitching prospect Tommy Hanson.
Was not aware of that. I thought when he said not trading the top prospects that meant they were out.
Quote from: AB™ on October 24, 2008, 09:31:52 pmAs for Peavy not being as good of a pitcher in the AL, I am not disagreeing. However, him only being a 5 inning pitcher may be a stretch. Gammons, like yourself, is a Red Sox guy, and I know feel very strongly the AL is the superior league. I'm not disagreeing because it obviously has been for a while now. But I have a hard time believing Peavy would be a run of the mill pitcher in the AL.
I don't think he'd necessarily be a run of the mill type guy, but I just couldn't see him being all that great. Just off the top of my head he's gotten lit up by the Sox and Yankees in interleague the last few years, although that is a small sample size. I still think he would be a pretty good pitcher in the AL, but nothing special. He's way more valuable to an NL team and obviously he's gonna be staying there.
All in all, I wouldn't be surprised to see Peavy still in San Diego come spring training.
Him still being there during spring training is also a very good possibility. I remember seeing something a week or two ago saying that a deal would be done by the All-Star break of the 2009 season at the latest. Meaning that this definitely isn't something that is necessarily going to happen in the off-season.
I'll update this periodically with some off-season news, even if it's minor stuff.
The Angels picked up John Lackey and Vlad Guerrero's options and declined Garrett Anderson's. No surprises there.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/press_releas...tnerId=rss_ana
The White Sox also signed 2B Jayson Nix, formerly of the Rockies.
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_10837562
Milwaukee named Ken Macha as their manager.
Quote from: Infamous on October 30, 2008, 05:18:26 pm
In other MLB news today, Milwaukee named Ken Macha as their manager.
Breaking news: Matt Holliday to be traded to the A's.
Seriously? Oakland definitely wasn't on my short list of teams I expected Holliday to be traded to. Wow.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/11/10/heyman.holliday/index.html
I forgot about this thread and just made a new topic on this a second ago.
Like I stated there. Thank God it wasn't the Cardinals. That trade ma no sense for us.
More Peavy talk: Cubs and Braves are the frontrunners right now, with the Dodgers as an outside shot. Apparently a deal is supposed to happen sometime this week. This should get interesting.
Your NL Cy Young winner is........
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081111&content_id=3674375&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
That guy has an incredible curveball. It reminds me of Aaron Sele's in his prime.
Lincecum is on his way to an amazing career. Hard to believe he's just 24 and this was his 2nd full season.
Also, the Marlins traded Scott Olsen and Josh Willingham to the Nationals yesterday, receiving 2B Emilio Bonafacio and 2 minor leaguers in return.
Now that Willingham is out of that abyss of a ballpark he could be a 30+ HR guy for the Nats. Olsen isn't great, but he's serviceable and will be an upgrade over the crap they were throwing out there most of the time in their rotation last year.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 11, 2008, 03:37:26 pm
Also, the Marlins traded Scott Olsen and Josh Willingham to the Nationals yesterday, receiving 2B Emilio Bonafacio and 2 minor leaguers in return.
Now that Willingham is out of that abyss of a ballpark he could be a 30+ HR guy for the Nats. Olsen isn't great, but he's serviceable and will be an upgrade over the crap they were throwing out there most of the time in their rotation last year.
Olsen your out! Clear the way baby!
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 10, 2008, 02:31:58 pm
More Peavy talk: Cubs and Braves are the frontrunners right now, with the Dodgers as an outside shot. Apparently a deal is supposed to happen sometime this week. This should get interesting.
I think we have the upper hand. The Cubs are going to probably have to get a 3rd team involved if they want the deal to work and they don't have as good of a combination of prospects and proven layers as the Braves do to offer.
I saw Lincecum shut out the Nationals in person this year.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on November 11, 2008, 05:45:10 pm
I saw Lincecum shut out the Nationals in person this year.
Are the Nationals still considered a MLB team? ;)
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 10, 2008, 02:18:50 pm
Breaking news: Matt Holliday to be traded to the A's.
Seriously? Oakland definitely wasn't on my short list of teams I expected Holliday to be traded to. Wow.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/11/10/heyman.holliday/index.html
I was shocked when it came across the wire the other day and jumping for joy. Now when I saw who we gave up, I don't like it? A very good AL pitcher who will be great in the NL and one of the best CF prospects in the game and oh yeah, Huston freaking Street. Wow, that is a lot of eggs in one basket but I won't doubt the great Billy Beane.
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 12, 2008, 07:48:10 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 10, 2008, 02:18:50 pm
Breaking news: Matt Holliday to be traded to the A's.
Seriously? Oakland definitely wasn't on my short list of teams I expected Holliday to be traded to. Wow.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/11/10/heyman.holliday/index.html
I was shocked when it came across the wire the other day and jumping for joy. Now when I saw who we gave up, I don't like it? A very good AL pitcher who will be great in the NL and one of the best CF prospects in the game and oh yeah, Huston freaking Street. Wow, that is a lot of eggs in one basket but I won't doubt the great Billy Beane.
Matt Holliday is a free agent in what, '09? '10? Don't expect Holliday's stay in Oakland to be longer than his contract allows. I figure as soon as he becomes a Free Agent he'll sign elsewhere.
Quote from: AB™ on November 12, 2008, 11:35:29 pmMatt Holliday is a free agent in what, '09? '10?
He's a FA after 2009. I think if Oakland plays well and is in contention next season they will keep him and try to make a run, but if not they will probably trade him and get some prospects back in return. Regardless I'll be shocked if he's there more than a year.
I certainly think that Billy wouldn't have made this trade if he didn't think he had a very good chance at signing him longterm. In fact I think he will be signed before the year begins.
Nick Swisher traded to the Yankees for minor league pitcher Jeff Marquez.
His BA was terrible last year, but he did hit 24 HR's.
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 13, 2008, 01:23:11 pm
I certainly think that Billy wouldn't have made this trade if he didn't think he had a very good chance at signing him longterm. In fact I think he will be signed before the year begins.
Really? Of course you know Oakland better than I do, but it will still surprise me if they hold on to him. What kind of money do yall have available to sign him? It would definitely be a good move. I just have my doubts it will happen.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 13, 2008, 02:59:06 pm
Nick Swisher traded to the Yankees for minor league pitcher Jeff Marquez.
His BA was terrible last year, but he did hit 24 HR's.
Hitting 24 HR's in that ballpark is no small feat. That translates to 30-35 in most other ballparks.
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 13, 2008, 01:23:11 pm
I certainly think that Billy wouldn't have made this trade if he didn't think he had a very good chance at signing him longterm. In fact I think he will be signed before the year begins.
Being an A's fan I am not doubting you because you know more about the organization than I do. But, if he is a FA in a year some team with a lot bigger payroll is going throw some serious cash his way and I think he knows that and will probably not sign a new deal with the A's and just play this next season out with them until he becomes a free agent.
Former Razorback Cliff Lee was named the AL Cy Young award winner today, way to go Cliff.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on November 13, 2008, 04:19:11 pm
Former Razorback Cliff Lee was named the AL Cy Young award winner today, way to go Cliff.
Didn't he wrap that up back in late July?
Pedroia and Pujols will be your next two award winners. At least that's what I think will happend and the those are the two I think deserve it the most.
Quote from: AB™ on November 13, 2008, 04:23:40 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on November 13, 2008, 04:19:11 pm
Former Razorback Cliff Lee was named the AL Cy Young award winner today, way to go Cliff.
Didn't he wrap that up back in late July?
K-Rod gave him a bit of a run for his money.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on November 13, 2008, 04:24:29 pm
Quote from: AB™ on November 13, 2008, 04:23:40 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on November 13, 2008, 04:19:11 pm
Former Razorback Cliff Lee was named the AL Cy Young award winner today, way to go Cliff.
Didn't he wrap that up back in late July?
K-Rod gave him a bit of a run for his money.
It should have been unanimous. Lee was obviously the best pitcher in not just the AL, but all of MLB.
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on November 13, 2008, 04:43:19 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on November 13, 2008, 04:24:29 pm
Quote from: AB™ on November 13, 2008, 04:23:40 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on November 13, 2008, 04:19:11 pm
Former Razorback Cliff Lee was named the AL Cy Young award winner today, way to go Cliff.
Didn't he wrap that up back in late July?
K-Rod gave him a bit of a run for his money.
It should have been unanimous. Lee was obviously the best pitcher in not just the AL, but all of MLB.
Its also kind of cool for me considering he shares an agent with my cousin.
Hey J-Lo, is your cousin going to start the season with the big club?
Quote from: jbell96 on November 13, 2008, 05:08:26 pm
Hey J-Lo, is your cousin going to start the season with the big club?
With the Olsen trade it has opened up a spot in the rotation. He is going to MLB Spring Training to try to earn that spot. Should be a fun year. If he makes it then I will know 4 out of the Marlins 5 starting rotation. Go Fish.
GO CARDINALS!
[/yearly reference to the team J-Lo said I'm supposed to cheer for]
Quote from: AllSmiles on November 13, 2008, 05:15:15 pm
GO CARDINALS!
[/yearly reference to the team J-Lo said I'm supposed to cheer for]
At a girl :)
Marlins keep cutting payroll by trading Kevin Gregg to the Cubs which means Kerry Wood will be on the open market.
Quote from: jbell96 on November 13, 2008, 05:39:42 pm
Marlins keep cutting payroll by trading Kevin Gregg to the Cubs which means Kerry Wood will be on the open market.
They are cutting the correct people tho. Their front office is great.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on November 13, 2008, 04:24:29 pm
Quote from: AB™ on November 13, 2008, 04:23:40 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on November 13, 2008, 04:19:11 pm
Former Razorback Cliff Lee was named the AL Cy Young award winner today, way to go Cliff.
Didn't he wrap that up back in late July?
K-Rod gave him a bit of a run for his money.
Actually Halladay gave him more of a run for his money. After May 12, Halladay had a better WHIP and ERA and I think even a better opponent batting average. No doubt Lee should have won it but Halladay had a Cy Youngesque year. It just happened to be in the same season that Cliff Lee had a historical type year.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on November 13, 2008, 05:41:05 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on November 13, 2008, 05:39:42 pm
Marlins keep cutting payroll by trading Kevin Gregg to the Cubs which means Kerry Wood will be on the open market.
They are cutting the correct people tho. Their front office is great.
The problem in South Florida is a lack of fan support. And it's not just the Marlins. The Canes had trouble filling the Orange Bowl, unless they were playing the Noles or the crocs, and in those cases FSU and UF bought up probably 40-50% of the tickets. It's hard to support any kind of payroll without any gate revenue.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 13, 2008, 03:02:02 pm
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 13, 2008, 01:23:11 pm
I certainly think that Billy wouldn't have made this trade if he didn't think he had a very good chance at signing him longterm. In fact I think he will be signed before the year begins.
Really? Of course you know Oakland better than I do, but it will still surprise me if they hold on to him. What kind of money do yall have available to sign him? It would definitely be a good move. I just have my doubts it will happen.
They are moving into a new ballpark soon and the new owner is gradually increasing the revenue. To me it would just make sense because they gave up Gonzalez and he is the future of the franchise.
Quote from: AB™ on November 13, 2008, 03:29:28 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 13, 2008, 02:59:06 pm
Nick Swisher traded to the Yankees for minor league pitcher Jeff Marquez.
His BA was terrible last year, but he did hit 24 HR's.
Hitting 24 HR's in that ballpark is no small feat. That translates to 30-35 in most other ballparks.
Well I would have to disagree a little. US Cellular Field is one of the most HR happy stadiums in MLB. I think the numbers would agree with me. I do believe Nick hit 35+ with the A's and that would translate to 45+ HR in the old Yankee Stadium. I am not sure how the new one will react. Swisher isn't a part time player and people are just going to have to live with his poor batting average and play him everyday. He is a winner and I am very unhappy that the A's traded him away. He is a poor man's Adam Dunn at the plate but he can play 1st and Corner OF better than he can. He isn't in his physical prime and should max out at a season of .250 45-120-140-10 but his OBP could be around .450. Proving once again how stupid batting average is.
Quote from: AB™ on November 13, 2008, 04:23:40 pm
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on November 13, 2008, 04:19:11 pm
Former Razorback Cliff Lee was named the AL Cy Young award winner today, way to go Cliff.
Didn't he wrap that up back in late July?
Pedroia and Pujols will be your next two award winners. At least that's what I think will happend and the those are the two I think deserve it the most.
If Pedroia wins the MVP, the award is more irrelevant that I thought. I hate awards where sports writers have a vote. They are biased and no less than nothing.
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 14, 2008, 01:20:19 pm
Quote from: AB™ on November 13, 2008, 03:29:28 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 13, 2008, 02:59:06 pm
Nick Swisher traded to the Yankees for minor league pitcher Jeff Marquez.
His BA was terrible last year, but he did hit 24 HR's.
Hitting 24 HR's in that ballpark is no small feat. That translates to 30-35 in most other ballparks.
Well I would have to disagree a little. US Cellular Field is one of the most HR happy stadiums in MLB.
I believe AB got mixed up and was thinking of Swisher's days in Oakland. US Cellular has been #1 in HR's hit for the past couple years I think.
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 14, 2008, 01:24:18 pmIf Pedroia wins the MVP, the award is more irrelevant that I thought.
Wait, you don't think he deserves it? He had a phenomenal season.
Who else would you give it to? Youkilis?
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 14, 2008, 03:03:38 pm
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 14, 2008, 01:24:18 pmIf Pedroia wins the MVP, the award is more irrelevant that I thought.
Wait, you don't think he deserves it? He had a phenomenal season.
Who else would you give it to? Youkilis?
K-Rod
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 14, 2008, 02:54:38 pm
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 14, 2008, 01:20:19 pm
Quote from: AB™ on November 13, 2008, 03:29:28 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 13, 2008, 02:59:06 pm
Nick Swisher traded to the Yankees for minor league pitcher Jeff Marquez.
His BA was terrible last year, but he did hit 24 HR's.
Hitting 24 HR's in that ballpark is no small feat. That translates to 30-35 in most other ballparks.
Well I would have to disagree a little. US Cellular Field is one of the most HR happy stadiums in MLB.
I believe AB got mixed up and was thinking of Swisher's days in Oakland. US Cellular has been #1 in HR's hit for the past couple years I think.
I was. For some reason I was thninking he was talking about Swisher playing in Oakland. I had forgot he spent this year in Chicago.
Quote from: Rizzo on November 14, 2008, 03:26:54 pmK-Rod
No way man. Pitchers should never get the MVP since they have the Cy Young. If any pitcher deserved the MVP it would be Sabathia. I know we're talking about the AL MVP here and Sabathia was in the NL, but I just don't think a pitcher deserves the MVP.
How 'bout Pujols for MVP on a team that fell apart down the stretch?
Does Hamilton have a shot for the Rangers? Its atleast the feel good story of the year.
Quote from: GrayBeard on November 15, 2008, 10:49:05 pm
Does Hamilton have a shot for the Rangers? Its atleast the feel good story of the year.
He'll get votes. Statistcally the Rangers had the best offense in baseball and Hamilton was no doubt the anchor of that lineup. He'll get votes and probably finish 3rd or 4th.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 14, 2008, 03:03:38 pm
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 14, 2008, 01:24:18 pmIf Pedroia wins the MVP, the award is more irrelevant that I thought.
Wait, you don't think he deserves it? He had a phenomenal season.
Who else would you give it to? Youkilis?
I know you love the Red Sox so I won't be too hard on you. DP wasn't and shouldn't be in the top 5. If I had a vote he wouldn't be close.
Alex Rodriguez
Carlos Quentin
Joe Mauer
Ian Kinsler
Josh Hamilton
Grady Sizemore
These are just a few. If I had a vote it would be Quentin. Without him the White Sox finish 3rd or 4th. He also had one of the best statistical seasons if not the best.
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 16, 2008, 10:44:17 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 14, 2008, 03:03:38 pm
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 14, 2008, 01:24:18 pmIf Pedroia wins the MVP, the award is more irrelevant that I thought.
Wait, you don't think he deserves it? He had a phenomenal season.
Who else would you give it to? Youkilis?
I know you love the Red Sox so I won't be too hard on you. DP wasn't and shouldn't be in the top 5. If I had a vote he wouldn't be close.
Alex Rodriguez
Carlos Quentin
Joe Mauer
Ian Kinsler
Josh Hamilton
Grady Sizemore
These are just a few. If I had a vote it would be Quentin. Without him the White Sox finish 3rd or 4th. He also had one of the best statistical seasons if not the best.
Yeah, but you hate the Red Sox so it evens out. :)
Heading into September I think the award was Quentin's to lose but when he broke his wrist it killed his chances of winning. Pedroia wouldn't even be in your top 5? Where is Youkilis? Justin Morneau also had a great year.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 16, 2008, 10:51:30 pm
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 16, 2008, 10:44:17 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 14, 2008, 03:03:38 pm
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 14, 2008, 01:24:18 pmIf Pedroia wins the MVP, the award is more irrelevant that I thought.
Wait, you don't think he deserves it? He had a phenomenal season.
Who else would you give it to? Youkilis?
I know you love the Red Sox so I won't be too hard on you. DP wasn't and shouldn't be in the top 5. If I had a vote he wouldn't be close.
Alex Rodriguez
Carlos Quentin
Joe Mauer
Ian Kinsler
Josh Hamilton
Grady Sizemore
These are just a few. If I had a vote it would be Quentin. Without him the White Sox finish 3rd or 4th. He also had one of the best statistical seasons if not the best.
Yeah, but you hate the Red Sox so it evens out. :)
Heading into September I think the award was Quentin's to lose but when he broke his wrist it killed his chances of winning. Pedroia wouldn't even be in your top 5? Where is Youkilis? Justin Morneau also had a great year.
You are right, I do hate the Red Sox. No he wouldn't be in my top five.
I would also say BJ Upton and Carlos Pena are above him. I don't think 1 or 2 hitters deserve the MVP. If they were better hitters, they wouldn't be hitting in that spot in the order.
So you are saying Jimmy Rollins didn't deserve his last year? He was the best hitter in the Phillies lineup in 2007.
Quote from: jbell96 on November 16, 2008, 11:28:38 pm
So you are saying Jimmy Rollins didn't deserve his last year? He was the best hitter in the Phillies lineup in 2007.
Correct. Driving in runners is much tougher and more important than running around the bases.
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 16, 2008, 11:17:12 pm
I don't think 1 or 2 hitters deserve the MVP. If they were better hitters, they wouldn't be hitting in that spot in the order.
Wow, you just lost a ton of credibility and respect as a baseball fan to me with that statement. I had a longer and more thought out post already typed up but my computer froze when I hit post and when I got back on it wasn't up so I'm not going into the whole argument again. But saying a player that bats 1st or 2nd in the lineup shouldn't win the MVP is a very idiotic thing to say. Quite a few teams have one of, if not their best, hitters batting in one of those spots. Ichiro has arguably been the best hitter in baseball since he came over from Japan and he's hit leadoff his entire career.
Pedroia had a better season statistically than Upton. He had a much higher batting average(+.53), higher OBP(+.02), and higher SLG%(+.92), eight more home runs, and 16 more RBI than Upton.
That's also like saying a pitcher doesn't deserve to win the Cy Young despite going 20-4, with a 2.25 ERA, with 175 K's, a 1.08 WHIP, and an OBA of .225 because he was the teams 3rd or 4th man in the rotation.
Come on man, you're one of the better baseball guys on the board, you can do better than that.
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 16, 2008, 11:32:35 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on November 16, 2008, 11:28:38 pm
So you are saying Jimmy Rollins didn't deserve his last year? He was the best hitter in the Phillies lineup in 2007.
Correct. Driving in runners is much tougher and more important than running around the bases.
Last time I checked the team that scored the most runs wins the game. So saying someone that scores 120 runs drives in 70, hits 15-20 HR's, bats .320, has an OBP right at .375 and slugs over .400, isn't as important as a 3 or 4 hitter who scores 90 runs, drives in 120, bats .300, OBP of around .310, and slugs .450 is stupid. There are and have been many 1 and 2 hitters throughout baseball that were more valuable to their team than their 3-5 hitters. You can not sit here and make a justifiable argument that having more RBI's from a player is more valuable than having a player score more runs. You can try but I won't ever say one is more important than the other. If anything though, I would lean towards runs scored, since scoring runs is the key to winning ball games.
Now your losing any respect I had for you as a baseball fan.
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 16, 2008, 11:17:12 pmYou are right, I do hate the Red Sox. No he wouldn't be in my top five.
I would also say BJ Upton and Carlos Pena are above him. I don't think 1 or 2 hitters deserve the MVP. If they were better hitters, they wouldn't be hitting in that spot in the order.
Where he bats is a terrible reason for why he shouldn't win the MVP. Why would he NOT bat #2? You aren't going to have him bat 3rd-4th-5th when you have big time hitters like Kevin Youkilis, David Ortiz, Jason Bay, JD Drew, and even Mike Lowell in your lineup. Letting him hit 2nd is perfect because he gets on base so much, therefore the guys in the middle can drive him in.
Consider these stats Pedroia put up:
- 213 hits (tied for 1st)
- 54 doubles (1st)
- 118 runs (1st)
- .326 AVG (2nd)
- 322 total bases (4th)
- 123 runs created (4th)
- 270 times on base (3rd)
- 12.6 at bats per strikeout (3rd)
And he played in all but 5 games. Even if you look at it purely based on stats, he's near the top in almost every category. You also have to take into account the phenomenal defense he played every night and all the great plays he came up with. He was the heart and soul of this team and came up with big play after big play. And actually for about a week or two straight he did bat cleanup while we were in the middle of a rash of injuries. He did it all and should win the MVP. Youkilis had an amazing season as well and should also get some consideration for the numbers he put up, but in the end I think Pedroia should take home the hardware.
Quote from: AB™ on November 11, 2008, 05:36:35 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 10, 2008, 02:31:58 pm
More Peavy talk: Cubs and Braves are the frontrunners right now, with the Dodgers as an outside shot. Apparently a deal is supposed to happen sometime this week. This should get interesting.
I think we have the upper hand. The Cubs are going to probably have to get a 3rd team involved if they want the deal to work and they don't have as good of a combination of prospects and proven layers as the Braves do to offer.
Atlanta is officially out of the race to land Peavy.
http://www.ajc.com/services/content/sports/braves/stories/2008/11/14/braves_peavy_trade.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=21
I have to say I'm a little surprised. With the amount of young prospects the Braves have, I thought a deal might get done.
Quote from: AB™ on November 16, 2008, 11:36:31 pm
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 16, 2008, 11:17:12 pm
I don't think 1 or 2 hitters deserve the MVP. If they were better hitters, they wouldn't be hitting in that spot in the order.
Wow, you just lost a ton of credibility and respect as a baseball fan to me with that statement. I had a longer and more thought out post already typed up but my computer froze when I hit post and when I got back on it wasn't up so I'm not going into the whole argument again. But saying a player that bats 1st or 2nd in the lineup shouldn't win the MVP is a very idiotic thing to say. Quite a few teams have one of, if not their best, hitters batting in one of those spots. Ichiro has arguably been the best hitter in baseball since he came over from Japan and he's hit leadoff his entire career.
Pedroia had a better season statistically than Upton. He had a much higher batting average(+.53), higher OBP(+.02), and higher SLG%(+.92), eight more home runs, and 16 more RBI than Upton.
That's also like saying a pitcher doesn't deserve to win the Cy Young despite going 20-4, with a 2.25 ERA, with 175 K's, a 1.08 WHIP, and an OBA of .225 because he was the teams 3rd or 4th man in the rotation.
Come on man, you're one of the better baseball guys on the board, you can do better than that.
First off, I'm not one of the better baseball guys on here, I am the best baseball mind on here. ;D
Next, I don't care if you think I have credibility or not, just because you disagree with me doesn't make you right and me wrong. Ask anyone who knows more about baseball than you do. They will tell you the same thing, the studs hit 3-4-5. Everyone is important in the lineup and has their job but the HARDEST job is 3-4-5.
Upton's stats were very close to the same AND he did it in almost 100 fewer AB's. Also, his team won the division.
Next, I never said anything about pitchers and for you to use such a ridiculous analogy makes no sense at all.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 17, 2008, 12:47:34 am
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 16, 2008, 11:17:12 pmYou are right, I do hate the Red Sox. No he wouldn't be in my top five.
I would also say BJ Upton and Carlos Pena are above him. I don't think 1 or 2 hitters deserve the MVP. If they were better hitters, they wouldn't be hitting in that spot in the order.
Where he bats is a terrible reason for why he shouldn't win the MVP. Why would he NOT bat #2? You aren't going to have him bat 3rd-4th-5th when you have big time hitters like Kevin Youkilis, David Ortiz, Jason Bay, JD Drew, and even Mike Lowell in your lineup. Letting him hit 2nd is perfect because he gets on base so much, therefore the guys in the middle can drive him in.
You are making my point for me. If he was so good then why didn't he bad 3-4-5-6? Answer, because he wasn't even the best hitter on his team. Why should he win the MVP if he wasn't better than 3 other hitters on his team?
Albert wins MVP
Quote from: QF© on November 17, 2008, 01:11:06 pm
Albert wins MVP
They should have given the award to Skip Schumaker. He hit 2nd right?
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 17, 2008, 12:58:43 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 17, 2008, 12:47:34 am
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 16, 2008, 11:17:12 pmYou are right, I do hate the Red Sox. No he wouldn't be in my top five.
I would also say BJ Upton and Carlos Pena are above him. I don't think 1 or 2 hitters deserve the MVP. If they were better hitters, they wouldn't be hitting in that spot in the order.
Where he bats is a terrible reason for why he shouldn't win the MVP. Why would he NOT bat #2? You aren't going to have him bat 3rd-4th-5th when you have big time hitters like Kevin Youkilis, David Ortiz, Jason Bay, JD Drew, and even Mike Lowell in your lineup. Letting him hit 2nd is perfect because he gets on base so much, therefore the guys in the middle can drive him in.
You are making my point for me. If he was so good then why didn't he bad 3-4-5-6? Answer, because he wasn't even the best hitter on his team. Why should he win the MVP if he wasn't better than 3 other hitters on his team?
Pedroia is the best pure hitter on the team. He is not the best power hitter we have, but being the best power hitter doesn't always mean you are the best hitter period. Everyone knows the 3-4-5 spots are typically reserved for the big power bats, of which we have several. Pedroia isn't a 30+ HR type guy which is why he bats 2nd. He sprays line drives all over the park and smashes doubles down the line, getting on base for the guys behind him to drive him in.
On this page: better hitter = more homeruns.
Got it.
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on November 17, 2008, 02:02:33 pm
On this page: better hitter = more homeruns.
Got it.
That is apparently what GWB thinks. I just can't believe that he actually believes it.
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 17, 2008, 12:56:38 pm
Quote from: AB™ on November 16, 2008, 11:36:31 pm
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 16, 2008, 11:17:12 pm
I don't think 1 or 2 hitters deserve the MVP. If they were better hitters, they wouldn't be hitting in that spot in the order.
Wow, you just lost a ton of credibility and respect as a baseball fan to me with that statement. I had a longer and more thought out post already typed up but my computer froze when I hit post and when I got back on it wasn't up so I'm not going into the whole argument again. But saying a player that bats 1st or 2nd in the lineup shouldn't win the MVP is a very idiotic thing to say. Quite a few teams have one of, if not their best, hitters batting in one of those spots. Ichiro has arguably been the best hitter in baseball since he came over from Japan and he's hit leadoff his entire career.
Pedroia had a better season statistically than Upton. He had a much higher batting average(+.53), higher OBP(+.02), and higher SLG%(+.92), eight more home runs, and 16 more RBI than Upton.
That's also like saying a pitcher doesn't deserve to win the Cy Young despite going 20-4, with a 2.25 ERA, with 175 K's, a 1.08 WHIP, and an OBA of .225 because he was the teams 3rd or 4th man in the rotation.
Come on man, you're one of the better baseball guys on the board, you can do better than that.
First off, I'm not one of the better baseball guys on here, I am the best baseball mind on here. ;D
Next, I don't care if you think I have credibility or not, just because you disagree with me doesn't make you right and me wrong. Ask anyone who knows more about baseball than you do. They will tell you the same thing, the studs hit 3-4-5. Everyone is important in the lineup and has their job but the HARDEST job is 3-4-5.
Upton's stats were very close to the same AND he did it in almost 100 fewer AB's. Also, his team won the division.
Next, I never said anything about pitchers and for you to use such a ridiculous analogy makes no sense at all.
It isn't any more stupid then saying that Pedroia shouldn't win the MVP award because he doesn't hit 3-4-5. I mean do you realize the idiocy of your argument and reasoning? If you told that to any pro ball player, manager, analysist, sports writer, etc. they would just laugh at you and not even honor your statement with a response do to how dense and ignorant it is.
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 17, 2008, 01:23:28 pm
Quote from: QF© on November 17, 2008, 01:11:06 pm
Albert wins MVP
They should have given the award to Skip Schumaker. He hit 2nd right?
I guess if Jimmy Rollins hits leadoff and has another 30-30 season, knocks in 100+ hits over .300, scores 120 runs, has an OBP of .360, and slugs .400+, he shouldn't even deserve consideration for the award. I'll keep this in mind for next season. The only players in baseball eligible to win the MVP award are those that his 3-4-5 in the lineup. That means only about 90 hitters are going to be eligible for the award when the season starts. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Pujols hit like .357, with not a whole lot of strikeouts. He is far from just a power hitter.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on November 17, 2008, 04:05:34 pm
Pujols hit like .357, with not a whole lot of strikeouts. He is far from just a power hitter.
He's a roid machine.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on November 17, 2008, 04:05:34 pm
Pujols hit like .357, with not a whole lot of strikeouts. He is far from just a power hitter.
Pujols deserved the MVP. The fact that GWB doesn't think anyone that doesn't hit in the 3-4-5, slots of the lineup should win the MVP is asinine.
GWB, please defend yourself. I don't let much ever upset me on here but your argument for the MVP has for some reason got me a little irate. If your intention was to make as ignorant and stupid of a statement as you could to see who you could get riled up then congrats because it worked on me. I love baseball and have a deep respect for the game and it's history. And your simple statement that Pedroia shouldn't even be in consideration for the MVP award because he doesn't hit 3rd, 4th, or 5th, in the lineup is one of the most idiotic things I've ever read on Fearless.
Like I said, if you were simply typing that to see what kind of reaction you could get out of us then congrats because you did tick me off quite a bit.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 17, 2008, 12:47:34 am
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 16, 2008, 11:17:12 pmYou are right, I do hate the Red Sox. No he wouldn't be in my top five.
I would also say BJ Upton and Carlos Pena are above him. I don't think 1 or 2 hitters deserve the MVP. If they were better hitters, they wouldn't be hitting in that spot in the order.
Where he bats is a terrible reason for why he shouldn't win the MVP. Why would he NOT bat #2? You aren't going to have him bat 3rd-4th-5th when you have big time hitters like Kevin Youkilis, David Ortiz, Jason Bay, JD Drew, and even Mike Lowell in your lineup. Letting him hit 2nd is perfect because he gets on base so much, therefore the guys in the middle can drive him in.
Consider these stats Pedroia put up:
- 213 hits (tied for 1st)
- 54 doubles (1st)
- 118 runs (1st)
- .326 AVG (2nd)
- 322 total bases (4th)
- 123 runs created (4th)
- 270 times on base (3rd)
- 12.6 at bats per strikeout (3rd)
And with that kind of talent hitting behind you, he should be getting some amazing pitches to hit. Heck, I could become a Silver Slugger hitting in the 2 spot for the Red Sox. How did they not win the World Series this year with that lineup? Are they the new Yankees?
PEDROIA WINS MVP
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3710856
Thank you writers for getting this one right. So after only 2 seasons in the majors, Dustin Pedroia has won a Rookie of the Year award, MVP award, started the All Star Game, and won a World Series. Not too bad. Congrats on a well deserved award.
Also, the Yankees just made a HUGE offer to AJ Burnett. 5 years 80 million. That is $220 million alone on 2 pitchers when you include Sabathia, who there is no doubt is going to New York. It looks like Burnett will be too. He could be the next Carl Pavano. I'm also hearing the Yankees are going to make a strong push for Derek Lowe. Stay tuned.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 18, 2008, 01:50:31 pm
PEDROIA WINS MVP
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3710856
Thank you writers for getting this one right. So after only 2 seasons in the majors, Dustin Pedroia has won a Rookie of the Year award, MVP award, started the All Star Game, and won a World Series. Not too bad. Congrats on a well deserved award.
But that can't be. Players that hit in the 2 hole aren't good enough and shouldn't win the MVP. I don't know if the majority of baseball experts across America realize the grave mistake they made and just how dumb they are.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 18, 2008, 01:57:07 pm
Also, the Yankees just made a HUGE offer to AJ Burnett. 5 years 80 million. That is $220 million alone on 2 pitchers when you include Sabathia, who there is no doubt is going to New York. It looks like Burnett will be too. He could be the next Carl Pavano. I'm also hearing the Yankees are going to make a strong push for Derek Lowe. Stay tuned.
AJ has been a solid pitcher for a few years now.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 18, 2008, 01:57:07 pm
Also, the Yankees just made a HUGE offer to AJ Burnett. 5 years 80 million. That is $220 million alone on 2 pitchers when you include Sabathia, who there is no doubt is going to New York. It looks like Burnett will be too. He could be the next Carl Pavano. I'm also hearing the Yankees are going to make a strong push for Derek Lowe. Stay tuned.
I hope they blow a load on Lowe too and that all 3 have injuries/miss a good chunk of the season.
Quote from: RHS on November 18, 2008, 03:55:05 pm
I hope they blow a load on Lowe.
Really? I mean this one is just too easy and obvious. ;D
Quote from: RHS on November 18, 2008, 03:55:05 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 18, 2008, 01:57:07 pm
Also, the Yankees just made a HUGE offer to AJ Burnett. 5 years 80 million. That is $220 million alone on 2 pitchers when you include Sabathia, who there is no doubt is going to New York. It looks like Burnett will be too. He could be the next Carl Pavano. I'm also hearing the Yankees are going to make a strong push for Derek Lowe. Stay tuned.
I hope they blow a load on Lowe too and that all 3 have injuries/miss a good chunk of the season.
Someone will overpay for Lowe. LA did it 4 years ago.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on November 18, 2008, 03:45:43 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 18, 2008, 01:57:07 pm
Also, the Yankees just made a HUGE offer to AJ Burnett. 5 years 80 million. That is $220 million alone on 2 pitchers when you include Sabathia, who there is no doubt is going to New York. It looks like Burnett will be too. He could be the next Carl Pavano. I'm also hearing the Yankees are going to make a strong push for Derek Lowe. Stay tuned.
AJ has been a solid pitcher for a few years now.
...When healthy.
The Cubs also signed Ryan Dempster to a new contract. 4/52
Quote from: AB™ on November 17, 2008, 10:33:08 pm
GWB, please defend yourself. I don't let much ever upset me on here but your argument for the MVP has for some reason got me a little irate. If your intention was to make as ignorant and stupid of a statement as you could to see who you could get riled up then congrats because it worked on me. I love baseball and have a deep respect for the game and it's history. And your simple statement that Pedroia shouldn't even be in consideration for the MVP award because he doesn't hit 3rd, 4th, or 5th, in the lineup is one of the most idiotic things I've ever read on Fearless.
Like I said, if you were simply typing that to see what kind of reaction you could get out of us then congrats because you did tick me off quite a bit.
I guess my opinion and that of many many baseball people who have been in it longer than your parents have been alive are all wrong and you are right. Thanks for setting me straight.
1) I don't discount that every hitter in the lineup has value and has their place. What happened to the Red Sox when they let Manny go? Pedroia was consistent all year but the offense didn't have the punch with the middle of the order guys.
2) You mentined Ichiro earlier. Their offense was great earlier in Ichiro's career. Now it isn't. What is the difference? Ichiro is still the same player they just don't have the Boone's of the world to drive them in.
You guys think whatever you want but you have your idea and I have mine. We aren't going to change and if this is the most irritated you have ever been on FF then you have been on the wrong threads.
I don't get irritated easily, and have only been turly irrated maybe 5 times in my 5 years of posting on here. I just can't and don't understand how a baseball fan can truly believe that a player batting 1 or 2 in the lineup can't and shouldn't be considered for the MVP if he has a good year.
I just saw on First Take where the Red Sox have shipped Crisp to the Royals in exchange for reliever Ramon Ramirez.
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on November 18, 2008, 09:08:38 pm
Quote from: AB™ on November 17, 2008, 10:33:08 pm
GWB, please defend yourself. I don't let much ever upset me on here but your argument for the MVP has for some reason got me a little irate. If your intention was to make as ignorant and stupid of a statement as you could to see who you could get riled up then congrats because it worked on me. I love baseball and have a deep respect for the game and it's history. And your simple statement that Pedroia shouldn't even be in consideration for the MVP award because he doesn't hit 3rd, 4th, or 5th, in the lineup is one of the most idiotic things I've ever read on Fearless.
Like I said, if you were simply typing that to see what kind of reaction you could get out of us then congrats because you did tick me off quite a bit.
I guess my opinion and that of many many baseball people who have been in it longer than your parents have been alive are all wrong and you are right. Thanks for setting me straight.
1) I don't discount that every hitter in the lineup has value and has their place. What happened to the Red Sox when they let Manny go? Pedroia was consistent all year but the offense didn't have the punch with the middle of the order guys.
2) You mentined Ichiro earlier. Their offense was great earlier in Ichiro's career. Now it isn't. What is the difference? Ichiro is still the same player they just don't have the Boone's of the world to drive them in.
You guys think whatever you want but you have your idea and I have mine. We aren't going to change and if this is the most irritated you have ever been on FF then you have been on the wrong threads.
And here's the flaw in your logic - according to you, if these leadoff and 2-hole hitters are still putting up great numbers, but the entire offense doesn't produce around them, then the player shouldn't be considered. That's basically blaming said player for the middle of the order not producing. The MVP is an individual award, and a player shouldn't be penalized for the rest of his team not producing runs when he gets on base.
Also, I'd like to know who the 'many baseball people' are, because I've never, ever heard this type of logic.
Quote from: Infamous on November 19, 2008, 10:25:40 am
I just saw on First Take where the Red Sox have shipped Crisp to the Royals in exchange for reliever Ramon Ramirez.
We just got a heck of a reliever in Ramirez. He's coming off a season in which he had a 2.64 ERA (in the AL keep in mind) and struck out nearly 1 per inning. I had a feeling Coco would be gone at some point this off-season, just didn't know when. With Ramirez we now have a really deep bullpen. Manny D, Masterson, Okajima, Ramirez, Lopez and of course Papelbon. That's extremely important.
Now lets get Tex. That's who I really would like to see us go after.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 19, 2008, 02:21:44 pm
Quote from: Infamous on November 19, 2008, 10:25:40 am
I just saw on First Take where the Red Sox have shipped Crisp to the Royals in exchange for reliever Ramon Ramirez.
We just got a heck of a reliever in Ramirez. He's coming off a season in which he had a 2.64 ERA (in the AL keep in mind) and struck out nearly 1 per inning. I had a feeling Coco would be gone at some point this off-season, just didn't know when. With Ramirez we now have a really deep bullpen. Manny D, Masterson, Okajima, Ramirez, Lopez and of course Papelbon. That's extremely important.
Now lets get Tex. That's who I really would like to see us go after.
Personally, I don't think Tex is worth nearly the salary that his services are going to require.
Besides, where would you play him? There's already an All Star Gold Glover manning the first base bag.
Quote from: Infamous on November 19, 2008, 03:27:55 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 19, 2008, 02:21:44 pm
Quote from: Infamous on November 19, 2008, 10:25:40 am
I just saw on First Take where the Red Sox have shipped Crisp to the Royals in exchange for reliever Ramon Ramirez.
We just got a heck of a reliever in Ramirez. He's coming off a season in which he had a 2.64 ERA (in the AL keep in mind) and struck out nearly 1 per inning. I had a feeling Coco would be gone at some point this off-season, just didn't know when. With Ramirez we now have a really deep bullpen. Manny D, Masterson, Okajima, Ramirez, Lopez and of course Papelbon. That's extremely important.
Now lets get Tex. That's who I really would like to see us go after.
Personally, I don't think Tex is worth nearly the salary that his services are going to require.
Besides, where would you play him? There's already an All Star Gold Glover manning the first base bag.
Tex is worth it. He a switch hitting power hitter with gold glove defense and is still fairly young. Move Youk over to 3B and platoon Ortiz and Lowell in the DH spot or even moved Youk to the outfield and keep Lowell at 3B. If the Sox sign Tex they'll find a spot for him in the lineup and on the field. Switch hitters with his power and his ability to produce one of the highest OPS in the league are very rare.
I just saw on SC where the Moose is set to retire. I'm actually suprised that he decided to call it quits. It had looked like he didn't have the ability to get major league hitters out anymore, and he reinvents himself as he produces his best campaign of his career with 20 wins. I really thought he'd make a strong push towards 300.
Quote from: Infamous on November 19, 2008, 05:52:50 pm
I just saw on SC where the Moose is set to retire. I'm actually suprised that he decided to call it quits. It had looked like he didn't have the ability to get major league hitters out anymore, and he reinvents himself as he produces his best campaign of his career with 20 wins. I really thought he'd make a strong push towards 300.
Moose is a borderline HOF and some will probably say he deserves to be in the Hall. He isn't the first pitcher to walk away at an older age after putting together a great season but I'm a little surprised. Now the Yanks are going to have to make an even bigger push for pitchers on the FA market. I do hope the Yankees go out and overpay for Randy Wolf because AL lineups are going to tear him up. Wolf has been a lifelong NLer and still has a career ERA of 4.26, and an OBA of .328.
Quote from: Infamous on November 19, 2008, 03:27:55 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 19, 2008, 02:21:44 pm
Quote from: Infamous on November 19, 2008, 10:25:40 am
I just saw on First Take where the Red Sox have shipped Crisp to the Royals in exchange for reliever Ramon Ramirez.
We just got a heck of a reliever in Ramirez. He's coming off a season in which he had a 2.64 ERA (in the AL keep in mind) and struck out nearly 1 per inning. I had a feeling Coco would be gone at some point this off-season, just didn't know when. With Ramirez we now have a really deep bullpen. Manny D, Masterson, Okajima, Ramirez, Lopez and of course Papelbon. That's extremely important.
Now lets get Tex. That's who I really would like to see us go after.
Personally, I don't think Tex is worth nearly the salary that his services are going to require.
Besides, where would you play him? There's already an All Star Gold Glover manning the first base bag.
I think he's worth it. You move Youk to 3rd. He's great over there, and you see if you can move Lowell for something nice in return. With Tex, Youk, Pedroia, and Lowrie, that is a HE
LL of a defense right there. It'd be a better infield by far than any other in the majors. I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to get Tex. I hope we can do it.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 19, 2008, 09:19:45 pm
It'd be a better infield by far than any other in the majors. I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to get Tex. I hope we can do it.
I don't know, the team that beat you in the ALCS that statistically had the best defense this year, might have something to say about that. Even with the addition of Teixeira. ;)
However, adding him to the roster does give you 3 gold glovers in the infield and Lowrie is probably one in waiting at short.
Oh yeah, forgot to mention this. I really got a kick out of the sportswriter who cast his vote for Jason Bartlett as the MVP. This guy didn't even have Pedroia in his top TEN either. Seriously, Jason... Bartlett. Hahahaha.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 19, 2008, 09:44:45 pm
Oh yeah, forgot to mention this. I really got a kick out of the sportswriter who cast his vote for Jason Bartlett as the MVP. This guy didn't even have Pedroia in his top TEN either. Seriously, Jason... Bartlett. Hahahaha.
He should have his vote removed. Just like any sports writer last year that left either McFadden or Tebow off a Heisman ballot.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on November 19, 2008, 09:44:45 pm
Oh yeah, forgot to mention this. I really got a kick out of the sportswriter who cast his vote for Jason Bartlett as the MVP. This guy didn't even have Pedroia in his top TEN either. Seriously, Jason... Bartlett. Hahahaha.
Is the guy a Tampa or Florida sportswriter? Either way he should have his voting rites taken away.
I really think that all the voters for every sports award after they are all handed out should do the following:
1. Have a meeting, and go through and look at how each voter voted.
2. At end of meeting have each voter submit a top 10 of the worst ballots.
3. Take the 10 who received the most votes and revoke their voting rites for whatever sport for 4 years. Find 10 more people to replace them.
The reason I say this is because every year for every major to semi-major award in sports there are some voters that you look at how they voted and it just blows your mind that they honestly could be that ignorant. If our resident poster, GWB, had got to cast an MVP ballot this year and I saw it, I would laugh out loud for a while at how ridiculous it would be. The Heisman is so media and regional biased it isn't funny. They need to come up with a completely different system on selecting a winner for what could arguably be the most prestigious individual sports award of them all.
Chase Utley is having hip surgery and may be out until June.
Philly is about to find out just how hard it really is to repeat.
Cards are close to signing lefty specialist Trever Miller. He was great for Tampa against lefties this past season so he definitely fills a need for us.
Quote from: jbell96 on November 21, 2008, 10:54:24 am
Cards are close to signing lefty specialist Trever Miller. He was great for Tampa against lefties this past season so he definitely fills a need for us.
Left handed batters only hit .208 against him last year. Good signing here.
Yeah, not a bad pickup for St. Louis. Their bullpen needs all the help they can get.
I thought Miller was done but he had a good comeback season with the Rays last year, along with every other member of their 'pen.
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on November 21, 2008, 07:59:09 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on November 21, 2008, 10:54:24 am
Cards are close to signing lefty specialist Trever Miller. He was great for Tampa against lefties this past season so he definitely fills a need for us.
Left handed batters only hit .208 against him last year. Good signing here.
Since the NL is so inferior to the AL shouldn't that translate into about a .170 average. (Extreme Sarcasm) ;D
Quote from: jbell96 on November 22, 2008, 12:34:02 am
Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on November 21, 2008, 07:59:09 pm
Quote from: jbell96 on November 21, 2008, 10:54:24 am
Cards are close to signing lefty specialist Trever Miller. He was great for Tampa against lefties this past season so he definitely fills a need for us.
Left handed batters only hit .208 against him last year. Good signing here.
Since the NL is so inferior to the AL shouldn't that translate into about a .170 average. (Extreme Sarcasm) ;D
The way our pen was, I would totally take it lol
I will too, I was just poking fun at Josh for his AL bias. ;D
Quote from: jbell96 on November 22, 2008, 11:28:59 am
I will too, I was just poking fun at Josh for his AL bias. ;D
Hey. Leave Josh alone. He has absolutely no bias towards the AL at all. Of course, Pujols would have only been the 20-30th best player in the AL this past season. He'd finish in the MVP voting just behind Coco Crisp.
I'm an NL guy through and through due to my loyalty to the Braves and even I will admit the AL is the better league. But I honestly believe Josh would argue and defend the AL's honor to his death. He never fails to let us know that a pitcher that is 1-3 on his NL staff would be a pretty average pitcher in the AL. ;)
The Braves traded for Javier Vazquez and Boone Logan today. Vazquez racks up the K's, but overall he is really inconsistent. One of the main players Atlanta traded away was SP Jo-Jo Reyes.
Atlanta gets: Javier Vazquez, Boone Logan
Chicago gets: Jo-Jo Reyes, Brett Lillibridge, top prospect (hasn't been named yet)
You like this deal, Justin? Looks a little iffy to me depending on who the top prospect is.
That sucks. Vazquez was great at melt downs. Ozzie was right when he said Vazquez isn't a big game pitcher. Just about every time Ozzie threw him out there towards the end of the season he gave up a lot of runs.
Quote from: AB™ on November 22, 2008, 05:42:58 pm
even I will admit the AL is the better league
You are a smart man.
Quote from: AB™ on November 22, 2008, 05:42:58 pm
But I honestly believe Josh would argue and defend the AL's honor to his death.
Sure would.
Quote from: AB™ on November 22, 2008, 05:42:58 pm
He never fails to let us know that a pitcher that is 1-3 on his NL staff would be a pretty average pitcher in the AL. ;)
When a pitcher transitions from the NL to the AL his ERA goes up pretty much every single time, and vice versa. There's a reason for that. :)
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on December 02, 2008, 11:58:41 pm
That sucks. Vazquez was great at melt downs.
I agree. Always seemed like he gave up a TON of HR's too. He can tend to get fastball happy.
I don't hate the trade but don't love it either. Reyes was a promising young pitcher and I hate to lose him. It really all depends on what prospect the White Sox get as to if I like or hate the deal.
Vazquez can be pretty good at times and terrible at others. He is an All-Star caliber pitcher who never seems to have a consistent 162 game season. He should benefit though going back to the NL. Although, the NL East is the one NL division that has some teams with lineups comparable to those in the AL.
I don't have a link, but ESPN just reported that the Braves are going to extend a 5 year offer to Burnett. Apparently everyone else is only willing to offer him 4 so hopefully the extra year will land him. Burnett has been a pretty underrated pitcher. He's, IMO the second best pitcher on the market this year behind Sabathia, and has been putting up good numbers in Toronto pitching against some of the best lineups in baseball on a regular basis. He could be one of those guys that goes from being a very good, almost All-Star caliber pitcher in the AL, to an Ace and Cy Young caliber pitcher in the NL. But like I stated in the thread about Vasquez, with the Phillies and Mets in the division, the lineups we face more often than not are pretty on par with the best AL lineups save the pitcher's spot.
The Red Sox locked up Pedroia today for 6/40. What a freaking bargain getting an elite player like him for an average of $6.6M per year. Good job Theo.
And did anyone see the other day where the Yankees didn't offer arbitration to any of their FA's? Hahahaha. The Hank Steinbrenner/Brian Cashman combo is clueless. It just doesn't make sense, unless the Yankees are now poor or something. Although... I'm sure the residents of NYC are just thrilled with paying their tax dollars to fund a new stadium they didn't really need. Good call, Hank. Way to put the people first.
I don't think they offered anyone arbitration because they are going to throw everything at the top few pitchers on the market.
Cardinals agreed to a trade with the Padres to acquire SS Khail Green for two minor league pitchers that haven't been named as of yet. I really hope Jess Todd isn't one of them.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/592462BD94133328862575150029C606?OpenDocument
Quote from: jbell96 on December 04, 2008, 03:44:26 pm
Cardinals agreed to a trade with the Padres to acquire SS Khail Green for two minor league pitchers that haven't been named as of yet. I really hope Jess Todd isn't one of them.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/592462BD94133328862575150029C606?OpenDocument
As long as Todd is not one of them I like this deal.
The Giants signed Edgar Renteria to a 2 year deal today. Good luck hearing from him for the remainder of that contract.
Quote from: AB™ on November 22, 2008, 05:42:58 pm
But I honestly believe Josh would argue and defend the AL's honor to his death. He never fails to let us know that a pitcher that is 1-3 on his NL staff would be a pretty average pitcher in the AL. ;)
Because he is a smart guy.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on December 04, 2008, 10:12:08 pm
The Giants signed Edgar Renteria to a 2 year deal today. Good luck hearing from him for the remainder of that contract.
Can you say cash grab
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on December 02, 2008, 11:52:36 pm
Chicago gets: Jo-Jo Reyes, Brett Lillibridge, top prospect
Lillibridge is a stud. Man Ken Williams is crazy about trading.
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on December 04, 2008, 10:18:20 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on December 02, 2008, 11:52:36 pm
Chicago gets: Jo-Jo Reyes, Brett Lillibridge, top prospect
Lillibridge is a stud. Man Ken Williams is crazy about trading.
So the Braves gave up a good one huh? I don't really know a ton about him.
Kenny Williams makes moves like he's the GM of a fantasy team.
I think Vazquez will be outstanding and might lead the league in K's but I will give the nod to the WS in this deal.
The Twins offered Casey blake 6 million a year for 2 years.
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on December 04, 2008, 10:43:49 pm
The Twins offered Casey blake 6 million a year for 2 years.
He in my opinion is one of the most overrated players in baseball. Stick a prospect out there and he will give you more for 162 games.
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhh.
I HATE Khalil Greene.
This sucks.
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on December 04, 2008, 10:46:12 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on December 04, 2008, 10:43:49 pm
The Twins offered Casey blake 6 million a year for 2 years.
He in my opinion is one of the most overrated players in baseball. Stick a prospect out there and he will give you more for 162 games.
We are talking about the Twins....our entire lineup minus Mauer, Morneau, and Kubel has pretty much consisted of prospects. We always call up guys or trade for them. Good examples is the Santana trade...
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on December 04, 2008, 11:27:54 pm
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on December 04, 2008, 10:46:12 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on December 04, 2008, 10:43:49 pm
The Twins offered Casey blake 6 million a year for 2 years.
He in my opinion is one of the most overrated players in baseball. Stick a prospect out there and he will give you more for 162 games.
We are talking about the Twins....our entire lineup minus Mauer, Morneau, and Kubel has pretty much consisted of prospects. We always call up guys or trade for them. Good examples is the Santana trade...
I know this. Why would your front office do this? I hope they do this, I hate the Twins.
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on December 04, 2008, 11:33:26 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on December 04, 2008, 11:27:54 pm
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on December 04, 2008, 10:46:12 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on December 04, 2008, 10:43:49 pm
The Twins offered Casey blake 6 million a year for 2 years.
He in my opinion is one of the most overrated players in baseball. Stick a prospect out there and he will give you more for 162 games.
We are talking about the Twins....our entire lineup minus Mauer, Morneau, and Kubel has pretty much consisted of prospects. We always call up guys or trade for them. Good examples is the Santana trade...
I know this. Why would your front office do this? I hope they do this, I hate the Twins.
Why hate the Twins? They don't have any of those arrogant players that people love to hate. They are a small market teams that has done a lot with little based on playing good defense. I know a lot of people that don't like them because that isn't their team, but don't know anyone that just hates them. Unless they are CWS fans.
Quote from: GeorgeWBush on December 04, 2008, 10:46:12 pm
Quote from: rsvl_hogfan4 on December 04, 2008, 10:43:49 pm
The Twins offered Casey blake 6 million a year for 2 years.
He in my opinion is one of the most overrated players in baseball. Stick a prospect out there and he will give you more for 162 games.
His beard instills fear into his opponents. Only Chuck Norris has a more fearsome beard.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on December 04, 2008, 11:25:34 pm
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhh.
I HATE Khalil Greene.
This sucks.
Looks like we have given up on Brendan Ryan.
Low risk, high return.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on December 04, 2008, 11:25:34 pm
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhh.
I HATE Khalil Greene.
This sucks.
Wait, you hate Khalil Green? I didn't know anyone on the planet hated that dude. Why, exactly? He's a heckuva lot better than Cesar Izturis.
He's a punk, he has a horrible mullet, he can't hit worth anything.
I am thinking of the right guy, right?
The Cards didn't give up much to get him. Why not take a shot. Last year was a rough year. He's been playing in a huge park and had good power numbers two years ago. This may end up being a steal for the redbirds.
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on December 05, 2008, 10:31:52 pm
He's a punk, he has a horrible mullet, he can't hit worth anything.
I am thinking of the right guy, right?
Never known him to be a punk, but that's just me. And yes, he has that long blonde mullet thing. Haha. He had an injury shorted season last year, but in '07 he hit really well. He had 27 HR's and 97 RBI's. Plus, he can really play his position. Slick glove. Who did the Cardinals end up giving up for him?
Bump. More news and notes from around MLB:
- Kerry Wood is close to signing a 2 year deal with the Indians
- Ryan Freel and prospects traded to the Orioles for Ramon Hernandez
Also, this is an interesting tidbit: The Giants are "supremely confident" they will sign Sabathia.
QuoteThe word around here is that Giants officials are supremely confident that they are going to sign the big lefty, this despite the fact they are already paying all that money to Barry Zito. If Sabathia does sign with the Giants, that would dramatically change their prospects in the very-winnable N.L. West next season.
Oh how I will laugh if he shuns the Yankees.
If CC shuns the yankees I would laught my butt off.
Acquiring a shortstop who hit .213 in the N.L. last season isn't exactly going to steal any headlines.
Go ahead and throw in that K-Rod is going to sign a 3 year deal with the Mets.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on December 05, 2008, 10:40:42 pm
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on December 05, 2008, 10:31:52 pm
He's a punk, he has a horrible mullet, he can't hit worth anything.
I am thinking of the right guy, right?
Never known him to be a punk, but that's just me. And yes, he has that long blonde mullet thing. Haha. He had an injury shorted season last year, but in '07 he hit really well. He had 27 HR's and 97 RBI's. Plus, he can really play his position. Slick glove. Who did the Cardinals end up giving up for him?
I would not say that Khalil Greene hit "really well" in 2007. The 27 homers and 97 RBI's are nice, but a .254 batting average = hitting really well??? That's comparable to saying Ryan Howard hits really well, which he doesn't. Made 2006 look like a fluke year
Quote from: suspended on December 09, 2008, 09:25:14 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on December 05, 2008, 10:40:42 pm
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on December 05, 2008, 10:31:52 pm
He's a punk, he has a horrible mullet, he can't hit worth anything.
I am thinking of the right guy, right?
Never known him to be a punk, but that's just me. And yes, he has that long blonde mullet thing. Haha. He had an injury shorted season last year, but in '07 he hit really well. He had 27 HR's and 97 RBI's. Plus, he can really play his position. Slick glove. Who did the Cardinals end up giving up for him?
I would not say that Khalil Greene hit "really well" in 2007. The 27 homers and 97 RBI's are nice, but a .254 batting average = hitting really well??? That's comparable to saying Ryan Howard hits really well, which he doesn't. Made 2006 look like a fluke year
Please tell me you are not using BA to say a player is not a good hitter. Let's move forward a few decades and at least use OPS or OPS+.
Greene's OPS+ in '07 was 100, which is the league average. He created exactly 0 batting wins, putting him right at the league average.
Now, on to the completely and utterly stupid statement that Ryan Howard does not hit well. His RC/G or his career is 8.2, which would win you tons of ball games. His OWP for his career is .712, which would put you in the playoffs every single season. He has a career OPS+ of 143.
What's next? Albert Pujols is overrated?
Quote from: suspended on December 09, 2008, 09:25:14 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on December 05, 2008, 10:40:42 pm
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on December 05, 2008, 10:31:52 pm
He's a punk, he has a horrible mullet, he can't hit worth anything.
I am thinking of the right guy, right?
Never known him to be a punk, but that's just me. And yes, he has that long blonde mullet thing. Haha. He had an injury shorted season last year, but in '07 he hit really well. He had 27 HR's and 97 RBI's. Plus, he can really play his position. Slick glove. Who did the Cardinals end up giving up for him?
I would not say that Khalil Greene hit "really well" in 2007. The 27 homers and 97 RBI's are nice, but a .254 batting average = hitting really well??? That's comparable to saying Ryan Howard hits really well, which he doesn't. Made 2006 look like a fluke year
That is true, and I admit that I overlooked his low average that year, but there is more to being a good player than just BA. But still, he's a good defensive SS who has some pop and will be a HUGE upgrade over the crap St. Louis has been throwing out there. If I was in the Cardinals spot I wouldn't be complaining too much about him.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on December 09, 2008, 10:02:12 pm
Quote from: suspended on December 09, 2008, 09:25:14 pm
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on December 05, 2008, 10:40:42 pm
Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on December 05, 2008, 10:31:52 pm
He's a punk, he has a horrible mullet, he can't hit worth anything.
I am thinking of the right guy, right?
Never known him to be a punk, but that's just me. And yes, he has that long blonde mullet thing. Haha. He had an injury shorted season last year, but in '07 he hit really well. He had 27 HR's and 97 RBI's. Plus, he can really play his position. Slick glove. Who did the Cardinals end up giving up for him?
I would not say that Khalil Greene hit "really well" in 2007. The 27 homers and 97 RBI's are nice, but a .254 batting average = hitting really well??? That's comparable to saying Ryan Howard hits really well, which he doesn't. Made 2006 look like a fluke year
That is true, and I admit that I overlooked his low average that year, but there is more to being a good player than just BA. But still, he's a good defensive SS who has some pop and will be a HUGE upgrade over the crap St. Louis has been throwing out there. If I was in the Cardinals spot I wouldn't be complaining too much about him.
Having Khalil Greene is like having Derek Jeter when you look at what we have been running out at SS ever since Eckstein left town.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on December 09, 2008, 10:02:12 pm
Quote from: suspended on December 09, 2008, 09:25:14 pm
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Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on December 05, 2008, 10:31:52 pm
He's a punk, he has a horrible mullet, he can't hit worth anything.
I am thinking of the right guy, right?
Never known him to be a punk, but that's just me. And yes, he has that long blonde mullet thing. Haha. He had an injury shorted season last year, but in '07 he hit really well. He had 27 HR's and 97 RBI's. Plus, he can really play his position. Slick glove. Who did the Cardinals end up giving up for him?
I would not say that Khalil Greene hit "really well" in 2007. The 27 homers and 97 RBI's are nice, but a .254 batting average = hitting really well??? That's comparable to saying Ryan Howard hits really well, which he doesn't. Made 2006 look like a fluke year
That is true, and I admit that I overlooked his low average that year, but there is more to being a good player than just BA. But still, he's a good defensive SS who has some pop and will be a HUGE upgrade over the crap St. Louis has been throwing out there. If I was in the Cardinals spot I wouldn't be complaining too much about him.
I said nothing to discredit Khalil Greene's fielding abilities, I don't think he's a good hitter. That's all i said.
As for Ryan Howard, when a third of your hits are home runs, I call it swinging for the fence. Not great hitting.
Quote from: Ty on December 09, 2008, 10:01:17 pm
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Quote from: Ramblin' Man™ on December 05, 2008, 10:31:52 pm
He's a punk, he has a horrible mullet, he can't hit worth anything.
I am thinking of the right guy, right?
Never known him to be a punk, but that's just me. And yes, he has that long blonde mullet thing. Haha. He had an injury shorted season last year, but in '07 he hit really well. He had 27 HR's and 97 RBI's. Plus, he can really play his position. Slick glove. Who did the Cardinals end up giving up for him?
I would not say that Khalil Greene hit "really well" in 2007. The 27 homers and 97 RBI's are nice, but a .254 batting average = hitting really well??? That's comparable to saying Ryan Howard hits really well, which he doesn't. Made 2006 look like a fluke year
Please tell me you are not using BA to say a player is not a good hitter. Let's move forward a few decades and at least use OPS or OPS+.
Greene's OPS+ in '07 was 100, which is the league average. He created exactly 0 batting wins, putting him right at the league average.
Now, on to the completely and utterly stupid statement that Ryan Howard does not hit well. His RC/G or his career is 8.2, which would win you tons of ball games. His OWP for his career is .712, which would put you in the playoffs every single season. He has a career OPS+ of 143.
What's next? Albert Pujols is overrated?
BCS baseball statistics.....gotta love it
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He's a punk, he has a horrible mullet, he can't hit worth anything.
I am thinking of the right guy, right?
Never known him to be a punk, but that's just me. And yes, he has that long blonde mullet thing. Haha. He had an injury shorted season last year, but in '07 he hit really well. He had 27 HR's and 97 RBI's. Plus, he can really play his position. Slick glove. Who did the Cardinals end up giving up for him?
I would not say that Khalil Greene hit "really well" in 2007. The 27 homers and 97 RBI's are nice, but a .254 batting average = hitting really well??? That's comparable to saying Ryan Howard hits really well, which he doesn't. Made 2006 look like a fluke year
Please tell me you are not using BA to say a player is not a good hitter. Let's move forward a few decades and at least use OPS or OPS+.
Greene's OPS+ in '07 was 100, which is the league average. He created exactly 0 batting wins, putting him right at the league average.
Now, on to the completely and utterly stupid statement that Ryan Howard does not hit well. His RC/G or his career is 8.2, which would win you tons of ball games. His OWP for his career is .712, which would put you in the playoffs every single season. He has a career OPS+ of 143.
What's next? Albert Pujols is overrated?
BCS baseball statistics.....gotta love it
Are you THAT dumb? It is sabermetrics and it has revolutionized the way that baseball is played.
oh no, a shot at my intelligence level. You're right, i'm sure a player goes to the plate wondering what the next at bat will do for his OPS or his RC/G. how exactly does that revolutionize the way the game is played? making players more conscious of numbers than a team's win/loss record?
I don't think it makes a player play differently, but I do think that it makes some GM's and managers look at things a lot differently.
I don't think it does either, and i'm sure GM's leep that sort of stuff in mind since it's about money. I'm just wantin to hear how all that stuff has "revolutionized" how the game is played.
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I don't think it does either, and i'm sure GM's leep that sort of stuff in mind since it's about money. I'm just wantin to hear how all that stuff has "revolutionized" how the game is played.
Reading the book Moneyball is a good place to start.
It's a great read.
does it actually deal with how players play thr gae? or is it about how managers and GM's are conducting their business?
I personally haven't read the book although it is next on my list. I don't neccessarily players are changing the way they are playing. Money Ball just takes numbers that have always been there that were being overlooked and being broken down and the importance of these numbers have proven even more valuable than your run of the mill stats like BA, R, and RBI. Those are still important, but Money Ball, and sabermetrics, have basically changed the way GM's are conducting teams and running their organization.
Quote from: suspended on December 09, 2008, 11:04:50 pmor is it about how managers and GM's are conducting their business?
It mainly talks about how Billy Beane and the Oakland A's were able to win/compete with players most traditional baseball people would tell you should fail, yet they didn't. It's is about thinking outside of the original baseball box that focused mainly on batting average.
You should seriously read it.
Batting average is a horribly overrated stat. Probably the most overrated in all of sports.
Quote from: AB™ on December 09, 2008, 11:10:12 pm
I personally haven't read the book although it is next on my list. I don't neccessarily players are changing the way they are playing. Money Ball just takes numbers that have always been there that were being overlooked and being broken down and the importance of these numbers have proven even more valuable than your run of the mill stats like BA, R, and RBI. Those are still important, but Money Ball, and sabermetrics, have basically changed the way GM's are conducting teams and running their organization.
And ultimately has changed the way that baseball is being played.
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Quote from: AB™ on December 09, 2008, 11:10:12 pm
I personally haven't read the book although it is next on my list. I don't neccessarily players are changing the way they are playing. Money Ball just takes numbers that have always been there that were being overlooked and being broken down and the importance of these numbers have proven even more valuable than your run of the mill stats like BA, R, and RBI. Those are still important, but Money Ball, and sabermetrics, have basically changed the way GM's are conducting teams and running their organization.
And ultimately has changed the way that baseball is being played.
I wouldn't say that the way baseball is played has changed. I just think that they're looking at the statistics from a more logical perspective.
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I personally haven't read the book although it is next on my list. I don't neccessarily players are changing the way they are playing. Money Ball just takes numbers that have always been there that were being overlooked and being broken down and the importance of these numbers have proven even more valuable than your run of the mill stats like BA, R, and RBI. Those are still important, but Money Ball, and sabermetrics, have basically changed the way GM's are conducting teams and running their organization.
And ultimately has changed the way that baseball is being played.
I wouldn't say that the way baseball is played has changed. I just think that they're looking at the statistics from a more logical perspective.
Patience at the plate is being preached more, relief pitchers are starting to be used in situations that have the most leverage, etc.
The wave started with the A's but has slowly spread out, due to Bill James and Billy Beane.
I don't know if this is true, but it was always under my assumption that managers would put their fastest guy in the leadoff spot. Now days managers want a leadoff hitter with a high OBP, same thing for guys hitting in the two hole.
Quote from: AB™ on December 10, 2008, 02:44:02 am
I don't know if this is true, but it was always under my assumption that managers would put their fastest guy in the leadoff spot. Now days managers want a leadoff hitter with a high OBP, same thing for guys hitting in the two hole.
Kevin Youkilis was a great leadoff hitter.
It has been reported that Sabathia is very close to signing a deal with the Yankees. A 7 year $161 million dollar deal.
The Nationals have offered Teixiera an 8 year 160 million dollar deal.
The Mets have aquired JJ Putz.
Put him alongside K-Rod and they've assembled a nice bullpen already, which was their obvious weaknesss last year.
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The Mets have aquired JJ Putz.
Put him alongside K-Rod and they've assembled a nice bullpen already, which was their obvious weaknesss last year.
K-Rod's arm is about to fall off. His velocity has been steadily declining for the past 3 years and he is nothing without it.
Putz is a great player. His WAP the past few years has been astronomical.
Well, Casey Blake signed with the Dodgers. Now, the Twins may be possibly trying to get DeRosa.
Boston unveiled their new road and alternate uniforms today:
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I think they look awesome. Old school. Nice blue alternates too.
Love 'em. Can't beat the old school look. Especially the throwback Red Sox logo.
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Love 'em. Can't beat the old school look. Especially the throwback Red Sox logo.
They look GREAT. I love the Sox patch on sleeve too.
The blue alternates are a nice touch too. Home alternates will still be the red.
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I love the Sox patch on sleeve too.
That's what I was talking about. I love the old school Sox logo.
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Quote from: suspended on December 09, 2008, 11:04:50 pmor is it about how managers and GM's are conducting their business?
It mainly talks about how Billy Beane and the Oakland A's were able to win/compete with players most traditional baseball people would tell you should fail, yet they didn't. It's is about thinking outside of the original baseball box that focused mainly on batting average.
You should seriously read it.
I think what is being overlooked is the fact that the A's are obsessed with college not high school pitchers.
When the Red Sox hired Epstien (sp?) he brought Bill James along and they really used sabermetrics and it has brought them 2 world titles.
AB aren't you a Braves fan?
What do you think of them signing Furcal?
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Quote from: RHS on December 09, 2008, 11:22:47 pm
Quote from: suspended on December 09, 2008, 11:04:50 pmor is it about how managers and GM's are conducting their business?
It mainly talks about how Billy Beane and the Oakland A's were able to win/compete with players most traditional baseball people would tell you should fail, yet they didn't. It's is about thinking outside of the original baseball box that focused mainly on batting average.
You should seriously read it.
I think what is being overlooked is the fact that the A's are obsessed with college not high school pitchers.
When the Red Sox hired Epstien (sp?) he brought Bill James along and they really used sabermetrics and it has brought them 2 world titles.
Good point. One of the reasons they look at college pitchers is because you have another thing to grade them on.
I remeber in the book that they were so excited to get like 16 of their top 20 prospects, and 7 of them pitchers.
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AB aren't you a Braves fan?
What do you think of them signing Furcal?
Yes I am. And not thrilled but not upset. Escobar will probably me moved to the outfield now. Furcal can't stay healthy and that's why I'm not that excited about getting him back. If he can stay healthy he can be a very productive leadoff hitter. I'm just still fuming over the Yankmes getting Burnett instead of us. Baseball really needs a frickin' salary cap.
I'm sorry Josh, but it's getting old that every year the top 5-10 FA's ever really end up considering and going to a handful of places; Yankees, Mets, Red Sox, Angels, Dodgers, and Cubs. It is getting old. I've always thought baseball needed a salary cap. My feelings about the subject have only gotten stronger the last several years.
We will take Yunel off your hands!
Red Sox sign Brad Penny and Josh Bard.
I like the Penny signing, especially if he can get back to '07 form. Regardless, he adds rotation depth.
As for the impact of the Bard signing:
QuoteThe Sox have all but given up on re-signing longtime catcher Jason Vartiek, and continue to discuss possible trades with the Texas Rangers (Taylor Teagarden, Jarrod Saltalamacchia), and Arizona Diamondbacks (Miguel Montero).
Bard couldn't even hold down a full time starting job at San Diego, and from what I remember is a light hitter. Sox must be gripping to sign him as a replacement for Varitek.
Well, he's expected to probably be a backup. The deal is non-gauranteed, meaning he's a ST invitee.
He wouldn't be bad if we go the platoon route though. Against lefties he's .288/.341/.443, plus he's getting out of Petco so that should help him some. I would love to snag a guy like Teagarden or Salty in a trade though. That would be great.
Gah, the hits just keep coming our way. The Rays sign Pat Burrell for 2/16. (That's it though?)
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3811501
Jason Giambi is also nearing a deal to return to the A's.
Milton Bradley also signed with the Cubs for 3/30. They needed a lefty bat bad and this fills a huge need for them.
The Indians signed former Yankee reject Carl Pavano to a 1 year, $1.5M contract. That might end up being a solid move if he can regain his form. I hope he tears it up just to spite NYY.
By the way, are the Cardinals planning on doing ANYTHING this off-season? Not that they ever do, I just thought there was a slight chance their front office would break the trend of sitting on their butts for a change.
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Milton Bradley also signed with the Cubs for 3/30. They needed a lefty bat bad and this fills a huge need for them.
Oh the reasons to keep hating the Cubs just keep on coming.
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By the way, are the Cardinals planning on doing ANYTHING this off-season? Not that they ever do, I just thought there was a slight chance their front office would break the trend of sitting on their butts for a change.
Let's not talk about the lack of movement by the Cards. It is a very sensitive topic for me right now. ;D
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on January 06, 2009, 05:16:11 pm
Milton Bradley also signed with the Cubs for 3/30. They needed a lefty bat bad and this fills a huge need for them.
It had to be done, considering the Brewers just picked up the Parker Brothers.
Sorry, I hate myself for posting that, but I couldn't resist.
Boston making some nice moves tonight.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/
A very solid 4th OF and I think the 2nd name will surprise a lot of people, although it's not official just yet. :D
I hate to see Smoltz go but I won't be surprised if it is finally made official. He's been a lifelong Brave and goes down with Chipper and Maddux as my favorite players ever. He's old and past his prime and his health has been an issue, but if he can stay healthy he is still good enough to be a good arm in the bullpen, and if he needs to he can be a spot starter.
Milton Bradley is such an awesome addition. The Cubs are turning into a pure moneyball team, Bradley led the AL in OBP and his OPS was ridiculous. Sees a ton of pitches, drives the ball, love this pickup.
Trading DeRosa also allows Fontenot to play full time at 2B and he has some pop, more speed than DeRosa, and hits lefty.
So
1B Lee
2B Fontenot
SS Theriot
3B Ramirez
LF Soriano
CF Fukudome
RF Bradley
C Soto
3 lefty bats in the lineup now instead of just one, cutting Edmonds and adding Bradley is a big time upgrade. Also adding Gregg the Marlins closer from last year to the pen is a big move.
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Milton Bradley is such an awesome addition. The Cubs are turning into a pure moneyball team, Bradley led the AL in OBP and his OPS was ridiculous. Sees a ton of pitches, drives the ball, love this pickup.
Also he is just so hateable. Which makes him the perfect Cub.
Quote from: SMC on January 08, 2009, 09:53:32 am
Milton Bradley is such an awesome addition. The Cubs are turning into a pure moneyball team, Bradley led the AL in OBP and his OPS was ridiculous. Sees a ton of pitches, drives the ball, love this pickup.
Trading DeRosa also allows Fontenot to play full time at 2B and he has some pop, more speed than DeRosa, and hits lefty.
So
1B Lee
2B Fontenot
SS Theriot
3B Ramirez
LF Soriano
CF Fukudome
RF Bradley
C Soto
3 lefty bats in the lineup now instead of just one, cutting Edmonds and adding Bradley is a big time upgrade. Also adding Gregg the Marlins closer from last year to the pen is a big move.
10 bucks says Carlos Zambrano & Bradley have a scuffle sometime this season. Bradley is a clubhouse cancer so I'm glad the Cubs got him.
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Quote from: SMC on January 08, 2009, 09:53:32 am
Milton Bradley is such an awesome addition. The Cubs are turning into a pure moneyball team, Bradley led the AL in OBP and his OPS was ridiculous. Sees a ton of pitches, drives the ball, love this pickup.
Trading DeRosa also allows Fontenot to play full time at 2B and he has some pop, more speed than DeRosa, and hits lefty.
So
1B Lee
2B Fontenot
SS Theriot
3B Ramirez
LF Soriano
CF Fukudome
RF Bradley
C Soto
3 lefty bats in the lineup now instead of just one, cutting Edmonds and adding Bradley is a big time upgrade. Also adding Gregg the Marlins closer from last year to the pen is a big move.
10 bucks says Carlos Zambrano & Bradley have a scuffle sometime this season. Bradley is a clubhouse cancer so I'm glad the Cubs got him.
I'd put down another 100 bucks that says Zambrano would take him to the woodshed.
Just saw where Trevor Hoffman signed with the Brewers.
Quote from: jbell96 on January 06, 2009, 11:03:17 pmLet's not talk about the lack of movement by the Cards. It is a very sensitive topic for me right now. ;D
Everyone knows the Cardinals need a closer. Brandon Lyon is a very solid option that's still out there. Of course, St. Louis might have to actually spend some money in order to aquire him, which is obviously a major drawback for John Mozeliak. How can any Cards fans still defend the guy at this point? I know you aren't, but there are still some rah rah blind faith type fans out there who will.
Quote from: SMC on January 08, 2009, 09:53:32 amSo
1B Lee
2B Fontenot
SS Theriot
3B Ramirez
LF Soriano
CF Fukudome
RF Bradley
C Soto
Are yall planning on sticking with Fukudome full time this year? He didn't exactly set the world on fire last year, especially down the stretch.
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Quote from: jbell96 on January 06, 2009, 11:03:17 pmLet's not talk about the lack of movement by the Cards. It is a very sensitive topic for me right now. ;D
Everyone knows the Cardinals need a closer. Brandon Lyon is a very solid option that's still out there. Of course, St. Louis might have to actually spend some money in order to aquire him, which is obviously a major drawback for John Mozeliak. How can any Cards fans still defend the guy at this point? I know you aren't, but there are still some rah rah blind faith type fans out there who will.
At lot of it has to do with the owners and what they will let him spend.
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A lot of it has to do with the owners and what they will let him spend.
Trying to slash payroll? That blows.
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Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on January 08, 2009, 02:41:15 pm
A lot of it has to do with the owners and what they will let him spend.
Trying to slash payroll? That blows.
They have been that way for years. We could spend a lot more than we do but the owners don't want to.
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Quote from: bulldogs1159™© on January 08, 2009, 02:41:15 pm
A lot of it has to do with the owners and what they will let him spend.
Trying to slash payroll? That blows.
They have been that way for years. We could spend a lot more than we do but the owners don't want to.
They Yankees, Mets, Dodgers, Angels, are making it almost impossible though for any other teams to be able to afford the best free agents every year.
The last time I checked St. Louis has the third highest ticket prices in baseball. Combine that with the fact that they sell out every home game, and I just don't buy that they don't have the money to persue free agents.
Quote from: AB™ on January 08, 2009, 08:28:09 pmThey Yankees, Mets, Dodgers, Angels, are making it almost impossible though for any other teams to be able to afford the best free agents every year.
Even so, teams like the Cardinals can certainly sign some good players out there. It's not all about the Sabathia's and Teixeira's of the baseball world, and everyone but the Yankees realizes that. I think it's a slap in the face to Cardinals fans when the ownership does absolutely nothing year after year. What a joke.
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The last time I checked St. Louis has the third highest ticket prices in baseball. Combine that with the fact that they sell out every home game, and I just don't buy that they don't have the money to persue free agents.
No one with a brain should buy it. The Cardinals have a payroll of over $100 MILLION DOLLARS, which is more than NINETEEN other MLB teams have. Wow.
Where is ASU Rugby? He usually finds a way to put a nice Cardinal spin on stuff like this.
It's times like these when I'm glad I support a team who has an ownership/front office who gives a crap about winning and not just making money, and also knows what they're doing.
Quote from: msubulldogs21 on January 08, 2009, 11:41:33 pm
Quote from: AB™ on January 08, 2009, 08:28:09 pmThey Yankees, Mets, Dodgers, Angels, are making it almost impossible though for any other teams to be able to afford the best free agents every year.
Even so, teams like the Cardinals can certainly sign some good players out there. It's not all about the Sabathia's and Teixeira's of the baseball world, and everyone but the Yankees realizes that. I think it's a slap in the face to Cardinals fans when the ownership does absolutely nothing year after year. What a joke.
The Cardinals defenitely have the money to make a pretty good move or two every year. And I agree that it isn't about signing big name players but if you can get one every couple of years it helps. The Yankees are just setting the bar to unreachable heights. If they are going to go out and get the three or four best free agents every offseason and give them contracts no one else can compete with then teams won't be able to even make an offer worthy of consideration. Im' just ready to see the Yankees not win the World Series again this upcoming season. Then I think we can start to label them as the worst team money can buy. They've already been that the past decade but this team not winning would be even worse.
As for the whole Smoltz to Boston thing, Chipper Jones isn't too happy with how the Braves handled it:
Quote"I am disappointed. Very disappointed. Deflated. Frustrated. It's been a very long offseason, not a lot of stuff to really get excited about and then to have this it just is the icing on the cake for me."
"Ultimately, it's Smoltzy's decision to go. But I don't think anybody is blaming him. The money is significantly different. He doesn't feel like the Braves are giving him the same respect that the Red Sox are ... I'm under the impression they basically told him be ready for June. My whole thing is John Smoltz has earned the right and earned the respect of everybody here to if he wants to come back and pitch and says he is healthy enough, he deserves that opportunity. And you do whatever it takes to get it done. We've made so many gambles on players that haven't panned out over the past few years and if there was one guy in that clubhouse that I'm going to gamble a couple of million dollars on, it's going to be that guy. If he says he can do it, I believe him."
This as upset as I've been with the Braves front office in awhile. I expected us to make a few moves and land a couple of good pitchers and another decent bat to the lineup. Instead we end up getting nothing except maybe Derek Lowe.
You guys realize it's 2009, right? :)