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Title: Best offense in 3a
Post by: ESPNAnalyst44 on September 22, 2018, 02:25:44 am
Just curious. opinions?
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: 501Arkansas on September 22, 2018, 03:15:00 am
Osceola offense is pretty good. Fast paced offense and well balanced. Noles have a lot of weapons and on last nights game 11 guys touched the ball. 3rd string qb took over after the starting qb went out with a dislocated shoulder again, after a horse collar tackle. QB MJ Vance finished with 333 total offense and noles finished well over 500 yards total. I won't say it's the best right now, but that offense is darn good.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: ESPNAnalyst44 on September 22, 2018, 09:42:21 am
Quote from: 501Arkansas on September 22, 2018, 03:15:00 am
Osceola offense is pretty good. Fast paced offense and well balanced. Noles have a lot of weapons and on last nights game 11 guys touched the ball. 3rd string qb took over after the starting qb went out with a dislocated shoulder again, after a horse collar tackle. QB MJ Vance finished with 333 total offense and noles finished well over 500 yards total. I won't say it's the best right now, but that offense is darn good.

Impressive indeed. How many players touching the ball will be returning next year?
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: CoolBreeze on September 22, 2018, 10:45:45 am
Clinton is a powerhouse.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: panther07 on September 22, 2018, 11:02:59 am
Quote from: CoolBreeze on September 22, 2018, 10:45:45 am
Clinton is a powerhouse.

I was very impressed with them offensively. They'll be a handful for anyone.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: Bearcatdad on September 22, 2018, 11:54:46 am
BOONEVILLE  ;D
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: DogCatcher on September 22, 2018, 01:11:01 pm
Mayflower and Newport are both looking good
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: 501Arkansas on September 22, 2018, 04:08:21 pm
Quote from: ESPNAnalyst44 on September 22, 2018, 09:42:21 am
Impressive indeed. How many players touching the ball will be returning next year?
6
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: beach bum on September 22, 2018, 04:12:01 pm
It's Booneville and it's not even close... I think you guys are confusing best with flashiest.... Booneville may not be flashy, but we are talking about most effective means best right? That means Booneville's is the best. Other 3A schools will see that when the playoffs start and Booneville controls the games with its usual physicality. Osceola, Clinton, Mayflower, and others will see what old school football means when they see it eventually in person and on the losing end of the scoreboard to Booneville they will see what the most effective offense is in 3A.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: beach bum on September 22, 2018, 04:12:21 pm
Quote from: Bearcatdad on September 22, 2018, 11:54:46 am
BOONEVILLE  ;D

Yes
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: 501Arkansas on September 22, 2018, 04:44:20 pm
Quote from: beach bum on September 22, 2018, 04:12:01 pm
It's Booneville and it's not even close... I think you guys are confusing best with flashiest.... Booneville may not be flashy, but we are talking about most effective means best right? That means Booneville's is the best. Other 3A schools will see that when the playoffs start and Booneville controls the games with its usual physicality. Osceola, Clinton, Mayflower, and others will see what old school football means when they see it eventually in person and on the losing end of the scoreboard to Booneville they will see what the most effective offense is in 3A.
Lol
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: ROULETTE on September 22, 2018, 04:54:22 pm
How can you answer this question without seeing every 3A offense play?
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: beach bum on September 22, 2018, 05:25:23 pm
Quote from: ROULETTE on September 22, 2018, 04:54:22 pm
How can you answer this question without seeing every 3A offense play?


Booneville would be the 3rd best team in 4A behind Warren and Robinson...... I don't need to see the rest of 3A to know they will run rough shod through them.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: HorseFeathers on September 22, 2018, 05:28:05 pm
We've heard this story before
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: Football2mom on September 22, 2018, 05:30:55 pm
Clinton has the best hands down!!!
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: Football2mom on September 22, 2018, 05:40:30 pm
Quote from: 501Arkansas on September 22, 2018, 04:44:20 pm
Lol
we can't wait for that time to actually show Boonville what old school is and be a dual threat!
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: DogCatcher on September 22, 2018, 06:32:49 pm
Quote from: beach bum on September 22, 2018, 04:12:01 pm
It's Booneville and it's not even close... I think you guys are confusing best with flashiest.... Booneville may not be flashy, but we are talking about most effective means best right? That means Booneville's is the best. Other 3A schools will see that when the playoffs start and Booneville controls the games with its usual physicality. Osceola, Clinton, Mayflower, and others will see what old school football means when they see it eventually in person and on the losing end of the scoreboard to Booneville they will see what the most effective offense is in 3A.
Wow, you sound like all the people on here from last year about their teams except none of them were the last one standing. Pretty early to boast so hard.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: Smackover Fan on September 22, 2018, 08:07:28 pm
Most explosive and most ability to score on any play with speed and athleticism? Smackover. This team is the fastest total team I remember seeing from Smackover. Total consistency, I'd probably have to say Booneville. I agree with the comment highlighting their management and control.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: ESPNAnalyst44 on September 22, 2018, 11:21:21 pm
Quote from: Smackover Fan on September 22, 2018, 08:07:28 pm
Most explosive and most ability to score on any play with speed and athleticism? Smackover. This team is the fastest total team I remember seeing from Smackover. Total consistency, I'd probably have to say Booneville. I agree with the comment highlighting their management and control.
Clinton is definitely the fastest team. That's undeniable.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on September 23, 2018, 04:26:13 am
Not sure about Clinton being the fastest...
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: Leo Marvin on September 23, 2018, 07:57:32 am
Quote from: ESPNAnalyst44 on September 22, 2018, 11:21:21 pm
Clinton is definitely the fastest team. That's undeniable.

Undeniable might be a little strong
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: Football2mom on September 23, 2018, 08:09:52 am
Quote from: Proud Buckaroo on September 23, 2018, 04:26:13 am
Not sure about Clinton being the fastest...
I know for a fact Clinton is the fastest team. My son last year was the fastest sophomore in the state in the 400 in all classifications and the twins we have on the team Austin and Ethen Drake are right behind him. We are fast and strong. You do know your fast though when you run below a 50 second 400meter. Track does wonder for kids that's for sure!
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: panther07 on September 23, 2018, 08:16:35 am
Quote from: Football2mom on September 23, 2018, 08:09:52 am
I know for a fact Clinton is the fastest team. My son last year was the fastest sophomore in the state in the 400 in all classifications and the twins we have on the team Austin and Ethen Drake are right behind him. We are fast and strong. You do know your fast though when you run below a 50 second 400meter. Track does wonder for kids that's for sure!

The 400 translates to football very little.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: Football2mom on September 23, 2018, 08:26:12 am
Quote from: panther07 on September 23, 2018, 08:16:35 am
The 400 translates to football very little.
lol they have stamina and you just wait to see it!! Drake put 223 yards down the field last game and my son can run a 4.4 40 .. speed for days on Clinton's team. We can throw when we need to and we can run when we need to! This year is gonna be great!
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: panther07 on September 23, 2018, 08:29:35 am
Quote from: Football2mom on September 23, 2018, 08:26:12 am
lol they have stamina and you just wait to see it!! Drake put 223 yards down the field last game and my son can run a 4.4 40 .. speed for days on Clinton's team. We can throw when we need to and we can run when we need to! This year is gonna be great!

Ms. Amos, you need to relax. Clinton has a very good football team. I was thoroughly impressed. But they are not the fastest team in the state. I know you folks in Clinton take that as a slight, you did last year as well, but it's not a slight.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: Football2mom on September 23, 2018, 08:33:20 am
My last name is Maxwell and it's cool I'm here to watch some football!! I know we have a good team and hopefully make it to the end!! Go JACKETS! I gave my opinion :) Our offense is a powerhouse!
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: panther07 on September 23, 2018, 08:35:57 am
Quote from: Football2mom on September 23, 2018, 08:33:20 am
My last name is Maxwell and it's cool I'm here to watch some football!! I know we have a good team and hopefully make it to the end!! Go JACKETS! I gave my opinion :) Our offense is a powerhouse!

It is very good. I've said that on multiple threads.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: beach bum on September 23, 2018, 08:44:24 am
Oh no.... here we go again... Clinton wins in the regular season and does not realize that means nothing when they get to the postseason. Clinton's defense is giving up points left and right. Look at Booneville's defense for a state title level winning defense.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: ISU7 on September 23, 2018, 08:49:55 am
Quote from: beach bum on September 22, 2018, 04:12:01 pm
It's Booneville and it's not even close... I think you guys are confusing best with flashiest.... Booneville may not be flashy, but we are talking about most effective means best right? That means Booneville's is the best. Other 3A schools will see that when the playoffs start and Booneville controls the games with its usual physicality. Osceola, Clinton, Mayflower, and others will see what old school football means when they see it eventually in person and on the losing end of the scoreboard to Booneville they will see what the most effective offense is in 3A.
My final four is Booneville, Clinton, Mcgehee, and Newport. 8)
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: ISU7 on September 23, 2018, 08:53:20 am
Quote from: 501Arkansas on September 22, 2018, 03:15:00 am
Osceola offense is pretty good. Fast paced offense and well balanced. Noles have a lot of weapons and on last nights game 11 guys touched the ball. 3rd string qb took over after the starting qb went out with a dislocated shoulder again, after a horse collar tackle. QB MJ Vance finished with 333 total offense and noles finished well over 500 yards total. I won't say it's the best right now, but that offense is darn good.
Where was the 2nd string qb????? Jeopardy theme song music  barring out in the background. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: imtie on September 23, 2018, 09:02:36 am
Quote from: beach bum on September 22, 2018, 04:12:01 pm
It's Booneville and it's not even close... I think you guys are confusing best with flashiest.... Booneville may not be flashy, but we are talking about most effective means best right? That means Booneville's is the best. Other 3A schools will see that when the playoffs start and Booneville controls the games with its usual physicality. Osceola, Clinton, Mayflower, and others will see what old school football means when they see it eventually in person and on the losing end of the scoreboard to Booneville they will see what the most effective offense is in 3A.
.       A few years ago everybody was on that Charleston train the same way with storey but got knocked in the mouth in the state game ( they came out with a win but had a much harder time doing it than they thought)
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: ghoti on September 23, 2018, 10:36:18 am
if clinton wins their conf who would they play in round 2 of the playoffs? anyone
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: HorseFeathers on September 23, 2018, 10:43:37 am
2nd place out of Smackover/Prescott/CHG

And it's rather entertaining the people who get upset over what they call delusional fanbases.... Guess we forget Clinton went to junction City and gave them all they wanted for 4Q, and brought back most of that team....
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: DogCatcher on September 23, 2018, 11:18:36 am
Quote from: Football2mom on September 23, 2018, 08:09:52 am
I know for a fact Clinton is the fastest team. My son last year was the fastest sophomore in the state in the 400 in all classifications and the twins we have on the team Austin and Ethen Drake are right behind him. We are fast and strong. You do know your fast though when you run below a 50 second 400meter. Track does wonder for kids that's for sure!
Have you seen every team in 3A play?  If not then you can't say that. One of the fastest yes, but the fastest. Really. There are some fast teams out there.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: CoolBreeze on September 23, 2018, 01:42:23 pm
Quote from: beach bum on September 23, 2018, 08:44:24 am
Oh no.... here we go again... Clinton wins in the regular season and does not realize that means nothing when they get to the postseason. Clinton's defense is giving up points left and right. Look at Booneville's defense for a state title level winning defense.
I thought this thread was about offense.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: elmerfudd on September 23, 2018, 02:55:06 pm
Quote from: CoolBreeze on September 23, 2018, 01:42:23 pm
I thought this thread was about offense.

That's why this thread is really kinda stupid and irrelevant. If you're just looking for something to speculate and shoot the breeze about, then this is your thread.

Otherwise, limiting yourself to just offense to determine who's going to go the farthest this year, is really just a waste of time.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: beach bum on September 23, 2018, 08:42:40 pm
Quote from: elmerfudd on September 23, 2018, 02:55:06 pm
That's why this thread is really kinda stupid and irrelevant. If you're just looking for something to speculate and shoot the breeze about, then this is your thread.

Otherwise, limiting yourself to just offense to determine who's going to go the farthest this year, is really just a waste of time.


Bingo.... Anyone that thinks Clinton is going to win a state title when they are giving up almost 30 points a game so far is delusional. They have played decent teams in there, but have not played the best they will face. Hence, we all know teams with a defense like that don't hold up a trophy in December.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: beach bum on September 23, 2018, 08:44:40 pm
Quote from: imtie on September 23, 2018, 09:02:36 am
.       A few years ago everybody was on that Charleston train the same way with storey but got knocked in the mouth in the state game ( they came out with a win but had a much harder time doing it than they thought)

Charleston does not play anything stylistic wise like Booneville so I am not sure that holds any weight at all what happened a half decade ago with Charleston to Booneville currently....
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: The Voice Seminole Nation on September 23, 2018, 09:10:56 pm
Quote from: ISU7 on September 23, 2018, 08:53:20 am
Where was the 2nd string qb????? Jeopardy theme song music  barring out in the background. ;D ;D

Resting a sore shoulder
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: Smackover Fan on September 24, 2018, 10:21:40 am
Most of these comments show why I split it. Defining best offense can be so situational. If for some reason I had the option to use any offense in the state in random situations, I would for sure use Booneville, Smackover, Clinton, and Prescott. If I'm eating clock I would probably go Booneville or Clinton. Although both can score quickly, I'm more impressed by their management. Smackover if I needed a hail Mary or a screen or sweep. Prescott if I need to punch it in in a goal line situation. Charleston also proves year after year that they are just good at everything. It's an interesting topic, but at the end of the day, it's hard to call a best in High School football. Especially when you haven't seen what any of them can do against the same defenses.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: Hgalum50 on September 24, 2018, 02:43:12 pm
Quote from: HorseFeathers on September 23, 2018, 10:43:37 am
2nd place out of Smackover/Prescott/CHG

And it's rather entertaining the people who get upset over what they call delusional fanbases.... Guess we forget Clinton went to junction City and gave them all they wanted for 4Q, and brought back most of that team....
I know for sure all them teams have some athletes on offense! Xaylon Falls from CHG is a offense in his own. He is arguably one of the most electrifying players in the state and is only a Junior.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: CoolBreeze on September 24, 2018, 02:54:15 pm
Quote from: beach bum on September 23, 2018, 08:42:40 pm

Bingo.... Anyone that thinks Clinton is going to win a state title when they are giving up almost 30 points a game so far is delusional. They have played decent teams in there, but have not played the best they will face. Hence, we all know teams with a defense like that don't hold up a trophy in December.
Nobody said on this thread that Clinton was going to win a state title. Only that they have a very good offense. Which is in response to the question asked by the person who began the thread.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: DeeGee on September 24, 2018, 09:12:03 pm
My opinion on best offense as of this early in the season: Boonville, Prescott, Smackover, Clinton. I have watched all the teams play over the years. And in the last 3 years I just show up at random games since my son graduated. Yes I am a football addict lol! It's really way too early in the season for this because the kids you named might end up getting a season ending injury. This is a thread for closer to play-offs, and you have to add in the teams defense as well. As the old saying goes, offense wins games, defense wins Championships.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: Coltfan2005 on September 24, 2018, 11:03:16 pm
Quote from: beach bum on September 22, 2018, 05:25:23 pm

Booneville would be the 3rd best team in 4A behind Warren and Robinson...... I don't need to see the rest of 3A to know they will run rough shod through them.

Didn't Booneville make this claim a few years ago? Seems like they were in 3A from 2013 to ???, I think.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: imtie on September 24, 2018, 11:31:21 pm
Quote from: Coltfan2005 on September 24, 2018, 11:03:16 pm
Didn't Booneville make this claim a few years ago? Seems like they were in 3A from 2013 to ???, I think.
The Booneville big head you mean? Seems like they think they can't be beat. ::) They are good no arguments there but not unbeatable.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: elmerfudd on September 25, 2018, 08:24:25 am
Quote from: Coltfan2005 on September 24, 2018, 11:03:16 pm
Didn't Booneville make this claim a few years ago? Seems like they were in 3A from 2013 to ???, I think.

Not sure what the point is here.

In 2013 we WERE the best offense in 4A. Anyone who claimed we had the best offense in 2014 didn't know what they were talking about, because we lost the entire offensive line from 2013. 2015 is a season to forget.

Back to 4A in 2016. 2017 made a deep competitive run into the playoffs with 3A numbers. If we were still in 4A this year, it would be hard to argue that we wouldn't have a top 3 offense (if Ulmer were still healthy).

I guess i would just like to hear an argument why Booneville wouldn't have a top 3-5 offense in 4A this year.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: AlumniLights on September 25, 2018, 08:34:57 am
Quote from: imtie on September 23, 2018, 09:02:36 am
.       A few years ago everybody was on that Charleston train the same way with storey but got knocked in the mouth in the state game ( they came out with a win but had a much harder time doing it than they thought)

Well, contrary to popular belief, that year, the title game was played on Dec. 5 at Alumni Field!  8)
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on September 25, 2018, 08:45:43 am
Quote from: AlumniLights on September 25, 2018, 08:34:57 am
Well, contrary to popular belief, that year, the title game was played on Dec. 5 at Alumni Field!  8)

You would be incorrect.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: Smackover Fan on September 25, 2018, 10:26:41 am
Quote from: AlumniLights on September 25, 2018, 08:34:57 am
Well, contrary to popular belief, that year, the title game was played on Dec. 5 at Alumni Field!  8)

Really? A state title game that came down to the last play and easily pitted the most dynamic offense and defense in the state against the most reliable offense and defense I'm the state and you want to downplay it like somehow Smackover didn't belong? Get real. Lol
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: AlumniLights on September 25, 2018, 01:48:50 pm
Guys, I am just yankin your chain! I was at the game and was on pins and needles til the end.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: The Beast Of 08 on September 25, 2018, 03:06:24 pm
Quote from: Hgalum50 on September 24, 2018, 02:43:12 pm
I know for sure all them teams have some athletes on offense! Xaylon Falls from CHG is a offense in his own. He is arguably one of the most electrifying players in the state and is only a Junior.
He's special, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: Oldhound56 on September 26, 2018, 05:15:43 pm
I would think Newport's offense would be one of the top offenses right now.  They are averaging almost 41 points per game and in 4 games have almost 1,900 total yards.  Over 900 rushing and over 900 passing.  Averaging over 400 yards a game.  In their last game they threw for 308 and ran for 324.  Pretty balanced with over 8 receivers that have caught passes and 3 backs that have been running the ball.  This doesn't even include last years leading rusher, who tore his ACL in spring ball, that is looking at being back in the next 3 weeks possibly. 
Title: Re: Best offense in 3a
Post by: DogCatcher on September 27, 2018, 10:13:38 pm
Quote from: Oldhound56 on September 26, 2018, 05:15:43 pm
I would think Newport's offense would be one of the top offenses right now.  They are averaging almost 41 points per game and in 4 games have almost 1,900 total yards.  Over 900 rushing and over 900 passing.  Averaging over 400 yards a game.  In their last game they threw for 308 and ran for 324.  Pretty balanced with over 8 receivers that have caught passes and 3 backs that have been running the ball.  This doesn't even include last years leading rusher, who tore his ACL in spring ball, that is looking at being back in the next 3 weeks possibly.
If he comes back and can produce then that would be one heck of an offense.