Pea Ridge 10
Bentonville 6
OK Tommy. I can't wait to hear this. Tell me you didn't tuck your tail and run away like you did at TOC after this loss. Tell me you still expect to be classified in the top 10 of the poll. heck, tell me anything. I would love to hear the excuses now.
I didn't even know Pea Ridge had a team until they were on your schedule.
Congrats to Pea Ridge. You just beat the best team, in Tommy's mind that is, in the state. celebrate the victory as you just tamed the tigers and sent them back to the circus.
4/19
Arkansas Baptist 16
Mayflower 0
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 19, 2010, 08:24:22 pm
Pea Ridge 10
Bentonville 6
OMG......After all of the crap talking......After all of the smack we all have had to endure on this board. To get spanked by a 4a school that is struggling. ... Man... You are about to get tied to the whipping post....Buried under the Golden Palace... Dude.. I have seem that bag of concrete you call a foot. Look out mouth... Here it comes...
ouch!!!!
Quote from: stattracker on April 19, 2010, 08:57:50 pm
OK Tommy. I can't wait to hear this. Tell me you didn't tuck your tail and run away like you did at TOC after this loss. Tell me you still expect to be classified in the top 10 of the poll. heck, tell me anything. I would love to hear the excuses now.
I didn't even know Pea Ridge had a team until they were on your schedule.
Congrats to Pea Ridge. You just beat the best team, in Tommy's mind that is, in the state. celebrate the victory as you just tamed the tigers and sent them back to the circus.
We were lucky to even score a run. Man what a team they took us to the wood shed and just beat us bloody. I can't say any one thing that happened but it was very bad day for the Tigers.
Even with this lose the Tigers are still way way better then any team in the Central. Central is all show and no go!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Tommy TIGER on April 19, 2010, 10:37:57 pm
Quote from: stattracker on April 19, 2010, 08:57:50 pm
OK Tommy. I can't wait to hear this. Tell me you didn't tuck your tail and run away like you did at TOC after this loss. Tell me you still expect to be classified in the top 10 of the poll. heck, tell me anything. I would love to hear the excuses now.
I didn't even know Pea Ridge had a team until they were on your schedule.
Congrats to Pea Ridge. You just beat the best team, in Tommy's mind that is, in the state. celebrate the victory as you just tamed the tigers and sent them back to the circus.
We were lucky to even score a run. Man what a team they took us to the wood shed and just beat us bloody. I can't say any one thing that happened but it was very bad day for the Tigers.
Even with this lose the Tigers are still way way better then any team in the Central. Central is all show and no go!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
...............................uh huh...................Sure....I'm tell'n Momma you've been in her "Special" Oregano again. ....... Stop it you are scaring me... ;)
Quote from: Tommy TIGER on April 19, 2010, 10:37:57 pm
Quote from: stattracker on April 19, 2010, 08:57:50 pm
OK Tommy. I can't wait to hear this. Tell me you didn't tuck your tail and run away like you did at TOC after this loss. Tell me you still expect to be classified in the top 10 of the poll. heck, tell me anything. I would love to hear the excuses now.
I didn't even know Pea Ridge had a team until they were on your schedule.
Congrats to Pea Ridge. You just beat the best team, in Tommy's mind that is, in the state. celebrate the victory as you just tamed the tigers and sent them back to the circus.
We were lucky to even score a run. Man what a team they took us to the wood shed and just beat us bloody. I can't say any one thing that happened but it was very bad day for the Tigers.
Even with this lose the Tigers are still way way better then any team in the Central. Central is all show and no go!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
That's what will happen when you play teams from the Central. What you had tonight versus Pea Ridge was a loss. That is something you have already had when you played the 4th best team from the Central.
You might want to wipe your forehead dry because it looks like your keyboard is getting soaked again from all the sweat pouring down.
Heck Tommy, you better not LOSE to Sheridan in two weeks. I know, you guys are trying to set the record for a LOSS to a team in every classification. You already have the 7A, 5A and 4A covered. Just a few more to go and you'll have them all checked of the list.
Marion 6 West Memphis 5
Sara Smith hit a 3 run homer in the bottom of the 7th to win 6-5
Quote from: stattracker on April 19, 2010, 10:48:42 pm
Quote from: Tommy TIGER on April 19, 2010, 10:37:57 pm
Quote from: stattracker on April 19, 2010, 08:57:50 pm
OK Tommy. I can't wait to hear this. Tell me you didn't tuck your tail and run away like you did at TOC after this loss. Tell me you still expect to be classified in the top 10 of the poll. heck, tell me anything. I would love to hear the excuses now.
I didn't even know Pea Ridge had a team until they were on your schedule.
Congrats to Pea Ridge. You just beat the best team, in Tommy's mind that is, in the state. celebrate the victory as you just tamed the tigers and sent them back to the circus.
We were lucky to even score a run. Man what a team they took us to the wood shed and just beat us bloody. I can't say any one thing that happened but it was very bad day for the Tigers.
Even with this lose the Tigers are still way way better then any team in the Central. Central is all show and no go!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
That's what will happen when you play teams from the Central. What you had tonight versus Pea Ridge was a loss. That is something you have already had when you played the 4th best team from the Central.
You might want to wipe your forehead dry because it looks like your keyboard is getting soaked again from all the sweat pouring down.
Heck Tommy, you better not LOSE to Sheridan in two weeks. I know, you guys are trying to set the record for a LOSS to a team in every classification. You already have the 7A, 5A and 4A covered. Just a few more to go and you'll have them all checked of the list.
That is a team goal to have a loss to at lest one team in all the classes something that hasn't been done before. We already have the T-Shirts made for the last loss.
Quote from: Big Daddy 12 on April 19, 2010, 10:57:59 pm
Marion 6 West Memphis 5
Sara Smith hit a 3 run homer in the bottom of the 7th to win 6-5
That is awsome. Bet she was floating around the bases. Nothing better than a walk off homer.
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 19, 2010, 08:24:22 pm
Pea Ridge 10
Bentonville 6
What in the WINNIE THE POOH happened here Tigg?
Quote from: stattracker on April 19, 2010, 08:57:50 pm
OK Tommy. I can't wait to hear this. Tell me you didn't tuck your tail and run away like you did at TOC after this loss. Tell me you still expect to be classified in the top 10 of the poll. heck, tell me anything. I would love to hear the excuses now.
I didn't even know Pea Ridge had a team until they were on your schedule.
Congrats to Pea Ridge. You just beat the best team, in Tommy's mind that is, in the state. celebrate the victory as you just tamed the tigers and sent them back to the circus.
Wow, that's a little rough...
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 19, 2010, 08:24:22 pm
Pea Ridge 10
Bentonville 6
Wait a minute guys!!!!
That was the golf score after one hole. My bad, my bad.
SOFTBALLBentonville 15
Pea Ridge 0
Some people are so gullable...
GOOD ONE! If only you could of seen the puzzled look on my face! Heck, if only I could have seen that look?
;D ;) ;D :o
Quote from: wildcatdad on April 19, 2010, 10:32:49 pm
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 19, 2010, 08:24:22 pm
Pea Ridge 10
Bentonville 6
OMG......After all of the crap talking......After all of the smack we all have had to endure on this board. To get spanked by a 4a school that is struggling. ... Man... You are about to get tied to the whipping post....Buried under the Golden Palace... Dude.. I have seem that bag of concrete you call a foot. Look out mouth... Here it comes...
Et tu, B-N-U??
BTW Earl, extraordinary officiating in Prairie Grove on Saturday! Thought that the HP ump in the Dardanelle-PG game did an outstanding job along with the one on third. Still a little skeptical about the one on 1st. He was behind the plate during the Dardanelle-Farmington match-up. One of the smallest strike zones I've seen in quite some time. ;)
Great Job! I even told you so afterwards! ;)
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 20, 2010, 08:17:35 am
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 19, 2010, 08:24:22 pm
Pea Ridge 10
Bentonville 6
Wait a minute guys!!!!
That was the golf score after one hole. My bad, my bad.
SOFTBALL
Bentonville 15
Pea Ridge 0
Some people are so gullable...
Nope. I knew it was wrong, but decided to play along as it was posted. Even told a few people that before i started posting. It was fun while it lasted. ;D
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 19, 2010, 08:24:22 pm
Pea Ridge 10
Bentonville 6
Good one Earl, finally I meet someone online with a mind as sharp as mine, one who can spell, and one devious enough to 'set up' a scenario such as this.
Heck, I even have to give Tigger credit for taking the proverbial 'football' and running with it! God, it hurt to say that.....
Final score Bentonville 15 Pea Ridge 0
After some successful browsing of local newspapers sports sections could I deduce this score was a scam. Like I said before, REALLY, who has Bentonville played and beaten. A weak 4A school?
I knew the WEST was weak, but even Bentonville could beat up on and run rule Pea Ridge.
New 7A poll (Notice spelling of poll Tigger)
1...Bentonville
2...Cabot
3...Harber
4...Russellville
5...Southside
6...Fayetteville
7...Northside
8...Springdale
9...Central
10..Mount Saint Mary
That ought to make your day Tigger. ;D
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 20, 2010, 08:26:25 am
Quote from: wildcatdad on April 19, 2010, 10:32:49 pm
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 19, 2010, 08:24:22 pm
Pea Ridge 10
Bentonville 6
OMG......After all of the crap talking......After all of the smack we all have had to endure on this board. To get spanked by a 4a school that is struggling. ... Man... You are about to get tied to the whipping post....Buried under the Golden Palace... Dude.. I have seem that bag of concrete you call a foot. Look out mouth... Here it comes...
Et tu, B-N-U??
Just playing the game... I was in the stands.. R.A was great behind the dish.
des arc 10, barton 0, in 4 inn. On monday. D.a. Plays arkansas baptist today. GO DES ARC!
Quote from: pick_DA_EAGLES on April 20, 2010, 08:58:37 am
des arc 10, barton 0, in 4 inn. On monday. D.a. Plays arkansas baptist today. GO DES ARC!
Why did you all just play 4 innings?
I thought the run rule was 15 after 3 and 10 after 5?
;)
3$, i dont know why it was 4 inn., thats just what i was told by 1 of moms.
3dollar
I like turdinators poll. Put Bentonville in the one hole. Maybe TT will quit his incessant whining.
As big as dude is, that is going to be one heck of an earthquake when Bentonville loses early at state.
Heck no, let him cry and whine.
4-19-10
Rison 10
Parkers Chapel 7 at Parkers Chapel :)
playing again monday the 26th at Rison
Quote from: stattracker on April 20, 2010, 08:30:02 am
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 20, 2010, 08:17:35 am
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 19, 2010, 08:24:22 pm
Pea Ridge 10
Bentonville 6
Wait a minute guys!!!!
That was the golf score after one hole. My bad, my bad.
SOFTBALL
Bentonville 15
Pea Ridge 0
Some people are so gullable...
Nope. I knew it was wrong, but decided to play along as it was posted. Even told a few people that before i started posting. It was fun while it lasted. ;D
You are full of S*** Statt you are so blinded by your own self loving that you will take anything said and try to but down the team that will knock out of the State tournament. Your afraid of what the Tigers bring to the field you will do anything to make them look bad. NLR is the real deal I will give them that your team is average at best. This little test shows how much of the SHORT MAN complex you and you as TRUDMAN really have. I'm not talking about how tall you are!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Tommy TIGER on April 20, 2010, 12:37:39 pm
Quote from: stattracker on April 20, 2010, 08:30:02 am
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 20, 2010, 08:17:35 am
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 19, 2010, 08:24:22 pm
Pea Ridge 10
Bentonville 6
Wait a minute guys!!!!
That was the golf score after one hole. My bad, my bad.
SOFTBALL
Bentonville 15
Pea Ridge 0
Some people are so gullable...
Nope. I knew it was wrong, but decided to play along as it was posted. Even told a few people that before i started posting. It was fun while it lasted. ;D
You are full of S*** Statt you are so blinded by your own self loving that you will take anything said and try to but down the team that will knock out of the State tournament. Your afraid of what the Tigers bring to the field you will do anything to make them look bad. NLR is the real deal I will give them that your team is average at best. This little test shows how much of the SHORT MAN complex you and you as TRUDMAN really have. I'm not talking about how tall you are!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Again, you keep thinking that. I told 3 people that I didn't believe that score and was going to still play with it since it was on there. I really don't give a crap if you believe that or not. Here is the bottom line TT. You have played exactly 2 maybe 3 good team that I can see. You have lost to 2 of them giving up double digits. You have the nerve to call us average? Think not. At least the two teams we have lost to are very good teams. We have beaten some very good teams as well. Our record and teams we have played speaks for itself.
As far as being afraid of what Bentonville brings to the table. I think not. You will be nothing more than a speed bump on the highway to Fayetteville and Bogle Park in May. I just hate that you will have to waste gas money to drive all the way down here to get your feelings hurt again. Wait, no I don't.
Oh, BTW, I couldn't understand half the crap you just wrote. I had to guess at some of it. As the terminator says, you can't spell worth a crap. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Tommy TIGER on April 20, 2010, 12:37:39 pm
Quote from: stattracker on April 20, 2010, 08:30:02 am
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 20, 2010, 08:17:35 am
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 19, 2010, 08:24:22 pm
Pea Ridge 10
Bentonville 6
Wait a minute guys!!!!
That was the golf score after one hole. My bad, my bad.
SOFTBALL
Bentonville 15
Pea Ridge 0
Some people are so gullable...
Nope. I knew it was wrong, but decided to play along as it was posted. Even told a few people that before i started posting. It was fun while it lasted. ;D
You are full of S*** Statt you are so blinded by your own self loving that you will take anything said and try to but down the team that will knock out of the State tournament. Your afraid of what the Tigers bring to the field you will do anything to make them look bad. NLR is the real deal I will give them that your team is average at best. This little test shows how much of the SHORT MAN complex you and you as TRUDMAN really have. I'm not talking about how tall you are!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
You know TT, this started out as something that was sort of fun. Now, it's just annoying.
Bryant led the NLR game about half the time. Bryant was in position to win that game. An error proved to be the difference maker. So don't say they are good, and we are average. This is obviously incorrect.
And for the love of God, please use the spell check button. It does the fixing for you, just click it!!!!!!!!!!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
The teams you have played are no better then the teams the Tigers have played (NLR being the only one that is any good) so stop the BS
Quote from: Tommy TIGER on April 20, 2010, 06:29:05 pm
The teams you have played are no better then the teams the Tigers have played (NLR being the only one that is any good) so stop the BS
It is really time for you to stop the insanity.
L.R. Central 2
Bryant 12
6 innings
SEARCY - 2
JACKSONVILLE - 0
conway 10 msm 0 14ks for the new pitcher
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 20, 2010, 08:17:35 am
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 19, 2010, 08:24:22 pm
Pea Ridge 10
Bentonville 6
Wait a minute guys!!!!
That was the golf score after one hole. My bad, my bad.
SOFTBALL
Bentonville 15
Pea Ridge 0
Some people are so gullable...
Simply awesome. When you first posted it, I was afraid to jump in and comment in any manner.
Simply awesome.
anyone know tonites des arc - arkansas baptist score?
just found out d.a. lost by 1
Quote from: stattracker on April 20, 2010, 07:56:32 pm
L.R. Central 2
Bryant 12
6 innings
Solid win against one of those 7A Central powerhouses...
4-20-10:
Dardanelle-8
Atkins-0
Quote from: pitcherperfect on April 20, 2010, 08:28:42 pm
conway 10 msm 0 14ks for the new pitcher
And that makes you happy because...??
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 21, 2010, 05:52:20 am
Quote from: stattracker on April 20, 2010, 07:56:32 pm
L.R. Central 2
Bryant 12
6 innings
Solid win against one of those 7A Central powerhouses...
A "W" is a "W". L.R. Central has two very good players on their team and that was their scoring. You know what the bad thing is for you guys? L.R. Central would beat half the teams out of the West. IMO of course.
You know, it's time to put an end to all this B.S. speculation and inane banter between two renowned Fearless Friday mental giants. Heed closely the observations of one of the most keen softball minds amongst us. One that has witnessed from a position of preeminence both teams at work.
Pitching
Bentonville features a senior in the circle that watched from the wings the past three seasons while one of the top players in the state lead the Tigers. Everyone in the Promised Land has been pleasantly surprised and quite pleased with her performance to date. Each game her ability and confidence grows. She spots the ball extremely well, has solid movement, but lacks top-end speed.
Bryant features a sophomore as their ace that gained invaluable experience during the Cinderella run of the Fab 5 in 2009. Unfortunately for the Hornets, Cinderellas glass cleats shattered in Bogle Park last May. She has solid movement, changes speed well, but also lacks top-end speed. The one thing working against the Hornets here is the well documented mechanics struggles of this individual coupled with the use of three-man umpire crews at state. As any umpire will tell you, it is much easier to detect such transgressions with that 3rd umpire on the field. The question is will the crew from the 7A Central that is likely to call the tournament have the intestinal fortitude to make the call.
Edge: EVEN
Offense
The Tigers have what is probably the best lead-off hitter in the State in Meg McGuirt (I understand Meg will be joining her older sister at the U of A next season). Meg continues to set records with each game and is certainly a tough out. Alex Sullivan has entered double-digits in the round-tripper arena. In fact, in the much discussed game against Russellville, Sully was paid the highest compliment a batter can receive when the Cyclones intentionally walked her when she came to bat with the bases loaded. Had they not, that game probably ends in a run-rule. The Tigers have received some unexpected pop in the lineup from freshman Katie Lacina while the rest of the lineup continues to deliver at the plate.
The Hornets have a legitimate deep ball threat of their own in the form of their catcher (sorry, don't know her name), but the author personally witnessed her plant two in the parking lot at the Bootsie earlier this season. Overall, the Hornets execute the short game more effectively, and will bite, scratch, and claw their way onto the bases. Once there, they are very effective at pushing runs across the plate.
Edge: Bentonville
Defense
Those that witnessed the abomination of a game the Tigers had versus Wynne may hold a false sense of defensive futility on the part of Bentonville. Suffice it to say, the issue in that game has been addressed, and the Tigers have performed admirably since that point. The one question mark is bunt coverage. For whatever reason, very few teams in NWA utilize this offensive philosophy, ergo, not many opportunities to defend same.
Bryant is very solid defensively, and if I may be so bold, it is probably the strength of their team. Many of these young ladies have played together for years at a high level of competitiveness. There is something to be said for cutting your teeth in good travel ball.
Edge: Bryant
Coaching
Coach Early was born and bred into a coaching family, and learned his trade from his legendary father while at UAM. Early runs his program at Bentonville like a college, and his Tigers are drilled from September through May. While not blessed with numerous players from the ranks of travel ball teams, he does an excellent job of identifying and developing talent in a very short time.
Coach Stepp is in her first year at Bryant after a successful run at Wynne in 2009. She inherited a very talented team allowing her to focus on the fine points of the game. However, she is a blond, and likes to refer to herself as the Queen of Softball (love ya Debbie!).
Edge: Bentonville
Intangibles
The decline of talent at Fayetteville has hurt the overall strength of the 7A West, and due to geographical constraints, it is difficult for the Tigers to find quality opponents to fill their non-conference schedule. Bentonville will also have to travel to Cabot this year, sleep in hotels, and deal with unfamiliar officials.
The Hornets have faced a tougher non-conference schedule, playing the Greenbriars and Bentons of the world. Bryant will get to sleep in their own beds and make the short drive to Cabot and see the same officials they see game in and game out.
Edge: Bryant
Folks, IMO, there isn't that much separating the two teams. Feel free to wallow in your false sense of superiority, but from the perspective of this student of the game...
Thats real nice, Earl...now what do you think are Sheridan's chances against Bentonville and Fayetteville next weekend?
Quote from: Mike Love on April 21, 2010, 07:47:56 am
Thats real nice, Earl...now what do you think are Sheridan's chances against Bentonville and Fayetteville next weekend?
Slim to none :D
Seriously, I have not seen Sheridan, therefore I am not in a position to provide any intelligent insight into those games. However, I can assure you the officiating will be exemplary...
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 21, 2010, 07:26:07 am
You know, it's time to put an end to all this B.S. speculation and inane banter between two renowned Fearless Friday mental giants. Heed closely the observations of one of the most keen softball minds amongst us. One that has witnessed from a position of preeminence both teams at work.
Pitching
Bentonville features a senior in the circle that watched from the wings the past three seasons while one of the top players in the state lead the Tigers. Everyone in the Promised Land has been pleasantly surprised and quite pleased with her performance to date. Each game her ability and confidence grows. She spots the ball extremely well, has solid movement, but lacks top-end speed.
Bryant features a sophomore as their ace that gained invaluable experience during the Cinderella run of the Fab 5 in 2009. Unfortunately for the Hornets, Cinderellas glass cleats shattered in Bogle Park last May. She has solid movement, changes speed well, but also lacks top-end speed. The one thing working against the Hornets here is the well documented mechanics struggles of this individual coupled with the use of three-man umpire crews at state. As any umpire will tell you, it is much easier to detect such transgressions with that 3rd umpire on the field. The question is will the crew from the 7A Central that is likely to call the tournament have the intestinal fortitude to make the call.
Edge: EVEN
Offense
The Tigers have what is probably the best lead-off hitter in the State in Meg McGuirt (I understand Meg will be joining her older sister at the U of A next season). Meg continues to set records with each game and is certainly a tough out. Alex Sullivan has entered double-digits in the round-tripper arena. In fact, in the much discussed game against Russellville, Sully was paid the highest compliment a batter can receive when the Cyclones intentionally walked her when she came to bat with the bases loaded. Had they not, that game probably ends in a run-rule. The Tigers have received some unexpected pop in the lineup from freshman Katie Lacina while the rest of the lineup continues to deliver at the plate.
The Hornets have a legitimate deep ball threat of their own in the form of their catcher (sorry, don't know her name), but the author personally witnessed her plant two in the parking lot at the Bootsie earlier this season. Overall, the Hornets execute the short game more effectively, and will bite, scratch, and claw their way onto the bases. Once there, they are very effective at pushing runs across the plate.
Edge: Bentonville
Defense
Those that witnessed the abomination of a game the Tigers had versus Wynne may hold a false sense of defensive futility on the part of Bentonville. Suffice it tho say, the issue in that game has been addressed, and the Tigers have performed admirably since that point. The one question mark is bunt coverage. For whatever reason, very few teams in NWA utilize this offensive philosophy, ergo, not many opportunities to defend same.
Bryant is very solid defensively, and if I may be so bold, it is probably the strength of their team. Many of these young ladies have played together for years at a high level of competitiveness. There is something to be said for cutting your teeth in good travel ball.
Edge: Bryant
Coaching
Coach Early was born and bred into a coaching family, and learned his trade from his legendary father while at UAM. Early runs his program at Bentonville like a college, and his Tigers are drilled from September through May. While not blessed with numerous players from the ranks of travel ball teams, he does an excellent job of identifying and developing talent in a very short time.
Coach Stepp is in her first year at Bryant after a successful run at Wynne in 2009. She inherited a very talented team allowing her to focus on the fine points of the game. However, she is a blond, and likes to refer to herself as the Queen of Softball (love ya Debbie!).
Edge: Bentonville
Intangibles
The decline of talent at Fayetteville has hurt the overall strength of the 7A West, and due to geographical constraints, it is difficult for the Tigers to find quality opponents to fill their non-conference schedule. Bentonville will also have to travel to Cabot this year, sleep in hotels, and deal with unfamiliar officials.
The Hornets had faced a tougher non-conference schedule, playing the Greenbriars and Bentons of the world. Bryant will get to sleep in their own beds and make the short drive to Cabot and see the same officials they see game in and game out.
Edge: Bryant
Folks, IMO, there isn't that much separating the two teams. Feel free to wallow in your false sense of superiority, but from the perspective of this student of the game...
Cheese business slow this morning, eh? ;D ;D ;D
Pretty good analysis of the two teams. I haven't seen you guys enough to comment on a lot of your points. I have seen Bryant enough to be able to comment. IMO, Bryant has one of the most potent offenses 1-9 that I have seen in a while. They have not put up the numbers most expected this year, but they can hurt you at each position in the lineup. They may well be a mirror-image of Bentonville. The difference, in my humble opinion, is the experience factor. That first trip to the finals is a big advantage. They are a pretty hungry group right now.
The bright spot for everybody this year is that there are no Lunds, Summerfords, Barfields or Sheldons around to shut people smooth, flat, ridiculous mad down. It is a hitter's season in the 7A this year.
I would give the left one that my wife keeps in a jar by the bed to see a semifinal matchup between Bentonville and Bryant!!!!!!!!!!! 8)
??? Earl, you were the field ump in the game at the Bootsie, Sheridan vs Batesville. That was a Sheridan w, 9-1. We will see for ourselves next weekend. Mack, I thought she had both in the jar. lol
Quote from: Mike Love on April 21, 2010, 09:03:14 am
??? Earl, you were the field ump in the game at the Bootsie, Sheridan vs Batesville. That was a Sheridan w, 9-1. We will see for ourselves next weekend. Mack, I thought she had both in the jar. lol
True that, true that.
I remember Sheridan looked pretty good, but more so Batesville's performance was forgetable.
QuoteCheese business slow this morning, eh?
Pretty good analysis of the two teams. I haven't seen you guys enough to comment on a lot of your points. I have seen Bryant enough to be able to comment. IMO, Bryant has one of the most potent offenses 1-9 that I have seen in a while. They have not put up the numbers most expected this year, but they can hurt you at each position in the lineup. They may well be a mirror-image of Bentonville. The difference, in my humble opinion, is the experience factor. That first trip to the finals is a big advantage. They are a pretty hungry group right now.
The bright spot for everybody this year is that there are no Lunds, Summerfords, Barfields or Sheldons around to shut people smooth, flat, ridiculous mad down. It is a hitter's season in the 7A this year.
I would give the left one that my wife keeps in a jar by the bed to see a semifinal matchup between Bentonville and Bryant!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, that would mean NLR would probably be 1st and that's not what I want. I am really hoping for a NLR/Bentonville semi-final to be honest.
Quote from: mack on April 21, 2010, 08:47:23 am
Cheese business slow this morning, eh? ;D ;D ;D
Note the time of the initial post my friend.
The Earl began crafting his tome of eloquence, insight, and intelligence at 6:30am, but was forced to pull a Joseph Smith and recite the entire opus from memory due to an inopportune computer glitch (as opposed to burning "the word of God in the fireplace)...
Earl
does anything ever make you happy I thought this thread was about (Scores 4/19-4/23) I guess it kind of got out of hand?
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 21, 2010, 07:26:07 am
You know, it's time to put an end to all this B.S. speculation and inane banter between two renowned Fearless Friday mental giants. Heed closely the observations of one of the most keen softball minds amongst us. One that has witnessed from a position of preeminence both teams at work.
Pitching
Bentonville features a senior in the circle that watched from the wings the past three seasons while one of the top players in the state lead the Tigers. Everyone in the Promised Land has been pleasantly surprised and quite pleased with her performance to date. Each game her ability and confidence grows. She spots the ball extremely well, has solid movement, but lacks top-end speed.
Bryant features a sophomore as their ace that gained invaluable experience during the Cinderella run of the Fab 5 in 2009. Unfortunately for the Hornets, Cinderellas glass cleats shattered in Bogle Park last May. She has solid movement, changes speed well, but also lacks top-end speed. The one thing working against the Hornets here is the well documented mechanics struggles of this individual coupled with the use of three-man umpire crews at state. As any umpire will tell you, it is much easier to detect such transgressions with that 3rd umpire on the field. The question is will the crew from the 7A Central that is likely to call the tournament have the intestinal fortitude to make the call.
Edge: EVEN
Offense
The Tigers have what is probably the best lead-off hitter in the State in Meg McGuirt (I understand Meg will be joining her older sister at the U of A next season). Meg continues to set records with each game and is certainly a tough out. Alex Sullivan has entered double-digits in the round-tripper arena. In fact, in the much discussed game against Russellville, Sully was paid the highest compliment a batter can receive when the Cyclones intentionally walked her when she came to bat with the bases loaded. Had they not, that game probably ends in a run-rule. The Tigers have received some unexpected pop in the lineup from freshman Katie Lacina while the rest of the lineup continues to deliver at the plate.
The Hornets have a legitimate deep ball threat of their own in the form of their catcher (sorry, don't know her name), but the author personally witnessed her plant two in the parking lot at the Bootsie earlier this season. Overall, the Hornets execute the short game more effectively, and will bite, scratch, and claw their way onto the bases. Once there, they are very effective at pushing runs across the plate.
Edge: Bentonville
Defense
Those that witnessed the abomination of a game the Tigers had versus Wynne may hold a false sense of defensive futility on the part of Bentonville. Suffice it to say, the issue in that game has been addressed, and the Tigers have performed admirably since that point. The one question mark is bunt coverage. For whatever reason, very few teams in NWA utilize this offensive philosophy, ergo, not many opportunities to defend same.
Bryant is very solid defensively, and if I may be so bold, it is probably the strength of their team. Many of these young ladies have played together for years at a high level of competitiveness. There is something to be said for cutting your teeth in good travel ball.
Edge: Bryant
Coaching
Coach Early was born and bred into a coaching family, and learned his trade from his legendary father while at UAM. Early runs his program at Bentonville like a college, and his Tigers are drilled from September through May. While not blessed with numerous players from the ranks of travel ball teams, he does an excellent job of identifying and developing talent in a very short time.
Coach Stepp is in her first year at Bryant after a successful run at Wynne in 2009. She inherited a very talented team allowing her to focus on the fine points of the game. However, she is a blond, and likes to refer to herself as the Queen of Softball (love ya Debbie!).
Edge: Bentonville
Intangibles
The decline of talent at Fayetteville has hurt the overall strength of the 7A West, and due to geographical constraints, it is difficult for the Tigers to find quality opponents to fill their non-conference schedule. Bentonville will also have to travel to Cabot this year, sleep in hotels, and deal with unfamiliar officials.
The Hornets have faced a tougher non-conference schedule, playing the Greenbriars and Bentons of the world. Bryant will get to sleep in their own beds and make the short drive to Cabot and see the same officials they see game in and game out.
Edge: Bryant
Folks, IMO, there isn't that much separating the two teams. Feel free to wallow in your false sense of superiority, but from the perspective of this student of the game...
A few tidbits for the Earl.
1. How is pitching against conference foes invaluable experience as a FRESHMAN albeit. Pretty sure she held her own even with the leaping calls.
2. Bryant features 7 count em' 7 girls w/ BA's well over .300 and with 3 over .400 Their lineup easily is best with NLR's if not better in certain areas. Would like to hear what the Tiger's lineup is doing 1-9 other than the few yoiu spoke of already to get a better comparison.
3. Would have to disagree with you as well on the defense of Bryant. Not near as good defensively this year as last year IMO. Did hear about the 10+ error game the Tigers have already had. Bryant may have a better defense than the Tigers, but not the strong point of the team. Not even close.
Love to hear your reply
Quote from: pitcherperfect on April 21, 2010, 03:48:42 pm
Earl
does anything ever make you happy I thought this thread was about (Scores 4/19-4/23) I guess it kind of got out of hand?
Yes, Mrs. Pretty Ricky's naner puddin'...
You forgot to mention your affinity for Athletic Directors in high heels.
Quote from: trevster10 on April 20, 2010, 02:45:25 pm
Quote from: Tommy TIGER on April 20, 2010, 12:37:39 pm
Quote from: stattracker on April 20, 2010, 08:30:02 am
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 20, 2010, 08:17:35 am
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 19, 2010, 08:24:22 pm
Pea Ridge 10
Bentonville 6
Wait a minute guys!!!!
That was the golf score after one hole. My bad, my bad.
SOFTBALL
Bentonville 15
Pea Ridge 0
Some people are so gullable...
Nope. I knew it was wrong, but decided to play along as it was posted. Even told a few people that before i started posting. It was fun while it lasted. ;D
You are full of S*** Statt you are so blinded by your own self loving that you will take anything said and try to but down the team that will knock out of the State tournament. Your afraid of what the Tigers bring to the field you will do anything to make them look bad. NLR is the real deal I will give them that your team is average at best. This little test shows how much of the SHORT MAN complex you and you as TRUDMAN really have. I'm not talking about how tall you are!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
You know TT, this started out as something that was sort of fun. Now, it's just annoying.
Bryant led the NLR game about half the time. Bryant was in position to win that game. An error proved to be the difference maker. So don't say they are good, and we are average. This is obviously incorrect.
And for the love of God, please use the spell check button. It does the fixing for you, just click it!!!!!!!!!!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
They still lost the game.
so Stop reading it and stay out of it
Quote from: QF© on April 21, 2010, 07:24:22 pm
You forgot to mention your affinity for Athletic Directors in high heels.
The backside of Duke of Earl is better looking!!!!!! :o :o :o
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 21, 2010, 07:18:28 pm
Quote from: pitcherperfect on April 21, 2010, 03:48:42 pm
Earl
does anything ever make you happy I thought this thread was about (Scores 4/19-4/23) I guess it kind of got out of hand?
Yes, Mrs. Pretty Ricky's naner puddin'...
C'mon Earl, you can do a heck of a lot better than that ! We've burnt his Wildcat Card. :'(
What has Bryant ever won?
Tradition.
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 21, 2010, 05:22:57 pm
A few tidbits for the Earl.
1. How is pitching against conference foes invaluable experience as a FRESHMAN albeit. Pretty sure she held her own even with the leaping calls.
2. Bryant features 7 count em' 7 girls w/ BA's well over .300 and with 3 over .400 Their lineup easily is best with NLR's if not better in certain areas. Would like to hear what the Tiger's lineup is doing 1-9 other than the few yoiu spoke of already to get a better comparison.
3. Would have to disagree with you as well on the defense of Bryant. Not near as good defensively this year as last year IMO. Did hear about the 10+ error game the Tigers have already had. Bryant may have a better defense than the Tigers, but not the strong point of the team. Not even close.
Love to hear your reply
1) I do not think you know what that means:
in·val·u·a·ble
–adjective
beyond calculable or appraisable value; of inestimable worth; priceless: an invaluable art collection; her invaluable assistance.
2) 1 - .523, 2 - .431, 3 - .389, 4 - .508, 5 - .375, 6 - .323, 7 - .340, 8 - .261 The 9-hole swaps between two different players. 18 HRs, 23 3B, 47 2B. That was the latest update I received.
3) Great. You have an opinion too...
Quote from: QF© on April 21, 2010, 07:24:22 pm
You forgot to mention your affinity for Athletic Directors in high heels.
Mmmm...Sexy...Maybe not...
Quote from: birdman1981 on April 21, 2010, 07:38:05 pm
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 21, 2010, 07:18:28 pm
Quote from: pitcherperfect on April 21, 2010, 03:48:42 pm
Earl
does anything ever make you happy I thought this thread was about (Scores 4/19-4/23) I guess it kind of got out of hand?
Yes, Mrs. Pretty Ricky's naner puddin'...
C'mon Earl, you can do a heck of a lot better than that ! We've burnt his Wildcat Card. :'(
I don't get in the middle of domestic disputes...
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 21, 2010, 08:18:10 pm
Quote from: QF© on April 21, 2010, 07:24:22 pm
You forgot to mention your affinity for Athletic Directors in high heels.
Mmmm...Sexy...Maybe not...
(http://www.bentonville.k12.ar.us/web/images/admin_images/lwest.jpg)
Quote from: Tommy TIGER on April 21, 2010, 07:25:08 pm
Quote from: trevster10 on April 20, 2010, 02:45:25 pm
Quote from: Tommy TIGER on April 20, 2010, 12:37:39 pm
Quote from: stattracker on April 20, 2010, 08:30:02 am
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 20, 2010, 08:17:35 am
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 19, 2010, 08:24:22 pm
Pea Ridge 10
Bentonville 6
Wait a minute guys!!!!
That was the golf score after one hole. My bad, my bad.
SOFTBALL
Bentonville 15
Pea Ridge 0
Some people are so gullable...
Nope. I knew it was wrong, but decided to play along as it was posted. Even told a few people that before i started posting. It was fun while it lasted. ;D
You are full of S*** Statt you are so blinded by your own self loving that you will take anything said and try to but down the team that will knock out of the State tournament. Your afraid of what the Tigers bring to the field you will do anything to make them look bad. NLR is the real deal I will give them that your team is average at best. This little test shows how much of the SHORT MAN complex you and you as TRUDMAN really have. I'm not talking about how tall you are!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
You know TT, this started out as something that was sort of fun. Now, it's just annoying.
Bryant led the NLR game about half the time. Bryant was in position to win that game. An error proved to be the difference maker. So don't say they are good, and we are average. This is obviously incorrect.
And for the love of God, please use the spell check button. It does the fixing for you, just click it!!!!!!!!!!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
They still lost the game.
so Stop reading it and stay out of it
I find it hilarious how you result to moronic insults that usually don't make any sense when replying to my posts. So, I ask. Would you please stop? I understand that you think your Tigers are the greatest things to ever walk on this Earth. But, please use facts and logical thinking to back up your opinion. All of this is without even mentioning the profanity. Good grief, Tommy.
And like I told someone else earlier on, my opinion is to be held just as highly as yours. Don't tell me what to do, or how to do it. Please, and thank you.
Oh, so close! You almost got through a post without a grammatical error!
test
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 21, 2010, 08:46:46 pm
Quote from: trevster10 on April 21, 2010, 08:30:16 pm
I find it hilarious how you result to moronic insults that usually don't make any sense when replying to my posts. So, I ask. Would you please stop? I understand that you think your Tigers are the greatest things to ever walk on this Earth. But, please use facts and logical thinking to back up your opinion. All of this is without even mentioning the profanity. Good grief, Tommy.
Oh, so close! You almost got through a post without a grammatical error!
Pot, meet kettle, kettle...pot...
Dang, and I thought I looked over it pretty good. Oh well.
See Trev, I removed my post. I didn't wanna pick on a kid...
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 21, 2010, 08:57:32 pm
See Trev, I removed my post. I didn't wanna pick on a kid...
He stepped in it. Might as well learn early.
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 21, 2010, 08:57:32 pm
See Trev, I removed my post. I didn't wanna pick on a kid...
You can put it back if you would like. I expect my opinion to be held as high as any other. But, with that, I should receive the same amount of scrutiny as well.
Quote from: QF© on April 21, 2010, 08:26:20 pm
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 21, 2010, 08:18:10 pm
Quote from: QF© on April 21, 2010, 07:24:22 pm
You forgot to mention your affinity for Athletic Directors in high heels.
Mmmm...Sexy...Maybe not...
(http://www.bentonville.k12.ar.us/web/images/admin_images/lwest.jpg)
No, I won't hear about this...
Quote from: stattracker on April 21, 2010, 07:54:08 pm
Quote from: QF© on April 21, 2010, 07:47:28 pm
What has Bryant ever won?
Nothing.
Lie! I'll have you know we are SIX time state champions when it comes to dance!!
I couldn't help it. ;D
Quote from: trevster10 on April 21, 2010, 09:04:18 pm
Quote from: stattracker on April 21, 2010, 07:54:08 pm
Quote from: QF© on April 21, 2010, 07:47:28 pm
What has Bryant ever won?
Nothing.
Lie! I'll have you know we are SIX time state champions when it comes to dance!!
I couldn't help it. ;D
and back when the WHOLE state was slow pitch Bryant did win 3 state titles in a row.
You keep bringing that up. That sport has been relegated to 30+ men who, in my astute observation, can drink a keg of beer before the "seventh inning stretch" and still walk.
This is a "real" sport Stat !
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 21, 2010, 09:03:10 pm
Quote from: QF© on April 21, 2010, 08:26:20 pm
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 21, 2010, 08:18:10 pm
Quote from: QF© on April 21, 2010, 07:24:22 pm
You forgot to mention your affinity for Athletic Directors in high heels.
Mmmm...Sexy...Maybe not...
(http://www.bentonville.k12.ar.us/web/images/admin_images/lwest.jpg)
No, I won't hear about this...
The Duke of Earl would look better in those high heels.
So would Roseanne.
In the short two years I have known the Earl, I always figured him for a Rosie O'Donnell type of guy.
(http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-02/27/xinsrc_7a9615c2ebcf42e98f56dd1bba387be5_wed.jpg)
So would Mack's pig.
Wait, isn't that Mack's pig!
(http://www.free-images.org.uk/animals/pot-bellied-pig.jpg)
Eerie resemblance............................................. :P
Quote from: birdman1981 on April 21, 2010, 09:23:30 pm
You keep bringing that up. That sport has been relegated to 30+ men who, in my astute observation, can drink a keg of beer before the "seventh inning stretch" and still walk.
This is a "real" sport Stat !
There are still women playing that game as well.
However, the question was, "What has Bryant done?" That is a question asking about the past. It did not referrence a specific element. Therefore, Bryant did win 3 consecutive state titles in the sport of softball.
Now, in Fast Pitch softball a few couple runner ups and some conference titles.
QuoteNow, in Fast Pitch softball a few couple runner ups and some conference titles.
Sort of like kissing your sister? I absolutely love the way you can pull off "both" persona's at the same time!
Speaking of which, where oh where are you Tigger? Come out and play with the
big boys! (Pardon the pun)
QuoteSort of like kissing your sister? I absolutely love the way you can pull off "both" persona's at the same time!
Speaking of which, where oh where are you Tigger? Come out and play with the big boys! (Pardon the pun)
It is awesome I tell you. I love this multiple personality disorder I have. I could practically pull anything off and get away with it. It's documented here.lol.
Where or where could ol Tigger be. Wipe that forehead man. You're going to sweat allover that keyboard again and short it out.
Dang, sort of rough out here tonight.
I hve no scores to settle, but I have one to report! :o
Foreman beat Ashdown 3-2 (at Foreman) in 8 innings this evening.
Please accept my apologies for crashing the thread! :D
Quote from: QF© on April 21, 2010, 08:26:20 pm
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 21, 2010, 08:18:10 pm
Quote from: QF© on April 21, 2010, 07:24:22 pm
You forgot to mention your affinity for Athletic Directors in high heels.
Mmmm...Sexy...Maybe not...
(http://www.bentonville.k12.ar.us/web/images/admin_images/lwest.jpg)
I vomited a lil in my mouth when I scrolled down and was startled to see that pic. :-X :-X
Quote from: QF© on April 21, 2010, 08:26:20 pm
(http://www.bentonville.k12.ar.us/web/images/admin_images/lwest.jpg)
(http://www.coolfunpics.com/slides/No_Fat_Girls.jpg)
Quote from: terminator on April 21, 2010, 09:45:08 pm
QuoteNow, in Fast Pitch softball a few couple runner ups and some conference titles.
Sort of like kissing your sister? I absolutely love the way you can pull off "both" persona's at the same time!
Speaking of which, where oh where are you Tigger? Come out and play with the big boys! (Pardon the pun)
I'm here!!!! Where are you????
Quote from: Little River Monzter on April 21, 2010, 10:21:29 pm
Quote from: QF© on April 21, 2010, 08:26:20 pm
(http://www.bentonville.k12.ar.us/web/images/admin_images/lwest.jpg)
(http://www.coolfunpics.com/slides/No_Fat_Girls.jpg)
Funny +1 for the nOOb
Quote from: GreenMan on April 21, 2010, 10:13:56 pm
Quote from: QF© on April 21, 2010, 08:26:20 pm
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 21, 2010, 08:18:10 pm
Quote from: QF© on April 21, 2010, 07:24:22 pm
You forgot to mention your affinity for Athletic Directors in high heels.
Mmmm...Sexy...Maybe not...
(http://www.bentonville.k12.ar.us/web/images/admin_images/lwest.jpg)
I vomited a lil in my mouth when I scrolled down and was startled to see that pic. :-X :-X
Do not look into the eyes.
Quote from: terminator on April 21, 2010, 09:36:43 pm
So would Mack's pig.
Wait, isn't that Mack's pig!
(http://www.free-images.org.uk/animals/pot-bellied-pig.jpg)
Eerie resemblance............................................. :P
Mommy!!!!! ??? ??? ???
Quote from: trevster10 on April 21, 2010, 08:30:16 pm
Quote from: Tommy TIGER on April 21, 2010, 07:25:08 pm
Quote from: trevster10 on April 20, 2010, 02:45:25 pm
Quote from: Tommy TIGER on April 20, 2010, 12:37:39 pm
Quote from: stattracker on April 20, 2010, 08:30:02 am
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 20, 2010, 08:17:35 am
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 19, 2010, 08:24:22 pm
Pea Ridge 10
Bentonville 6
Wait a minute guys!!!!
That was the golf score after one hole. My bad, my bad.
SOFTBALL
Bentonville 15
Pea Ridge 0
Some people are so gullable...
Nope. I knew it was wrong, but decided to play along as it was posted. Even told a few people that before i started posting. It was fun while it lasted. ;D
You are full of S*** Statt you are so blinded by your own self loving that you will take anything said and try to but down the team that will knock out of the State tournament. Your afraid of what the Tigers bring to the field you will do anything to make them look bad. NLR is the real deal I will give them that your team is average at best. This little test shows how much of the SHORT MAN complex you and you as TRUDMAN really have. I'm not talking about how tall you are!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
You know TT, this started out as something that was sort of fun. Now, it's just annoying.
Bryant led the NLR game about half the time. Bryant was in position to win that game. An error proved to be the difference maker. So don't say they are good, and we are average. This is obviously incorrect.
And for the love of God, please use the spell check button. It does the fixing for you, just click it!!!!!!!!!!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
They still lost the game.
so Stop reading it and stay out of it
I find it hilarious how you result to moronic insults that usually don't make any sense when replying to my posts. So, I ask. Would you please stop? I understand that you think your Tigers are the greatest things to ever walk on this Earth. But, please use facts and logical thinking to back up your opinion. All of this is without even mentioning the profanity. Good grief, Tommy.
And like I told someone else earlier on, my opinion is to be held just as highly as yours. Don't tell me what to do, or how to do it. Please, and thank you.
Oh, so close! You almost got through a post without a grammatical error!
Yes I think the Tigers are a very good team.If you had a DD that has worked as hard as mine for many, many years, you would as well. I know how good this team is and I also know how GREAT this team can be. I will never stand down from anyone that puts this team down in anyway EVER( little one). So say what you may about me and call me dumb because of my spelling I don't care. Never ever put down the Tigers.
Quote from: Tommy TIGER on April 22, 2010, 06:15:11 am
Quote from: trevster10 on April 21, 2010, 08:30:16 pm
Quote from: Tommy TIGER on April 21, 2010, 07:25:08 pm
Quote from: trevster10 on April 20, 2010, 02:45:25 pm
Quote from: Tommy TIGER on April 20, 2010, 12:37:39 pm
Quote from: stattracker on April 20, 2010, 08:30:02 am
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 20, 2010, 08:17:35 am
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 19, 2010, 08:24:22 pm
Pea Ridge 10
Bentonville 6
Wait a minute guys!!!!
That was the golf score after one hole. My bad, my bad.
SOFTBALL
Bentonville 15
Pea Ridge 0
Some people are so gullable...
Nope. I knew it was wrong, but decided to play along as it was posted. Even told a few people that before i started posting. It was fun while it lasted. ;D
You are full of S*** Statt you are so blinded by your own self loving that you will take anything said and try to but down the team that will knock out of the State tournament. Your afraid of what the Tigers bring to the field you will do anything to make them look bad. NLR is the real deal I will give them that your team is average at best. This little test shows how much of the SHORT MAN complex you and you as TRUDMAN really have. I'm not talking about how tall you are!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
You know TT, this started out as something that was sort of fun. Now, it's just annoying.
Bryant led the NLR game about half the time. Bryant was in position to win that game. An error proved to be the difference maker. So don't say they are good, and we are average. This is obviously incorrect.
And for the love of God, please use the spell check button. It does the fixing for you, just click it!!!!!!!!!!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
They still lost the game.
so Stop reading it and stay out of it
I find it hilarious how you result to moronic insults that usually don't make any sense when replying to my posts. So, I ask. Would you please stop? I understand that you think your Tigers are the greatest things to ever walk on this Earth. But, please use facts and logical thinking to back up your opinion. All of this is without even mentioning the profanity. Good grief, Tommy.
And like I told someone else earlier on, my opinion is to be held just as highly as yours. Don't tell me what to do, or how to do it. Please, and thank you.
Oh, so close! You almost got through a post without a grammatical error!
Yes I think the Tigers are a very good team.If you had a DD that has worked as hard as mine for many, many years, you would as well. I know how good this team is and I also know how GREAT this team can be. I will never stand down from anyone that puts this team down in anyway EVER( little one). So say what you may about me and call me dumb because of my spelling I don't care. Never ever put down the Tigers.
Trev, take that. ;D
No one puts down the tiggers, but he can put down other teams? Seems weird.
Quote from: Tommy TIGER on April 22, 2010, 06:15:11 am
Yes I think the Tigers are a very good team.If you had a DD that has worked as hard as mine for many, many years, you would as well. I know how good this team is and I also know how GREAT this team can be. I will never stand down from anyone that puts this team down in anyway EVER( little one). So say what you may about me and call me dumb because of my spelling I don't care. Never ever put down the Tigers.
Oh no. That's not even right. This whole time that I have given my opinion that Bryant is better/will beat Bentonville I have backing it up with facts, and reality! Now, this may not be a kind of reality that you like, but it still is the truth. I don't result to petty namecalling, and putting down the other teams the way YOU do. You are allowed to say that Bentonville is gonna kick every Central's team a**, and give no facts to back it up, but Im not allowed to say Bryant will beat Bentonville?
C'mon now Tommy, that's a double standard.
Quote from: trevster10 on April 22, 2010, 07:03:12 am
Quote from: Tommy TIGER on April 22, 2010, 06:15:11 am
Yes I think the Tigers are a very good team.If you had a DD that has worked as hard as mine for many, many years, you would as well. I know how good this team is and I also know how GREAT this team can be. I will never stand down from anyone that puts this team down in anyway EVER( little one). So say what you may about me and call me dumb because of my spelling I don't care. Never ever put down the Tigers.
Oh no. That's not even right. This whole time that I have given my opinion that Bryant is better/will beat Bentonville I have backing it up with facts, and reality! Now, this may not be a kind of reality that you like, but it still is the truth. I don't result to petty namecalling, and putting down the other teams the way YOU do. You are allowed to say that Bentonville is gonna kick every Central's team a**, and give no facts to back it up, but Im not allowed to say Bryant will beat Bentonville?
C'mon now Tommy, that's a double standard.
Have you seen the size of that head? He has enough room for two standards. ;D
Quote from: stattracker on April 22, 2010, 07:17:41 am
Have you seen the size of that head?
That's what she said!!!!
Quote from: terminator on April 21, 2010, 09:36:43 pm
So would Mack's pig.
Wait, isn't that Mack's pig!
(http://www.free-images.org.uk/animals/pot-bellied-pig.jpg)
Eerie resemblance............................................. :P
Ha,,, maybe when she is 15 years old, or if we didnt keep her on that special pig diet. My Puumba is a svelte, beautiful, athletic porcine princess,,, and i'll thank you to not liken her to that hideous sow you have posted on here.
No wonder she tries to bite you when she sees you,,,,,,,,,
That friggin' @#*^$% piece of $^&! tries to bite everyone ! Best thing for Pumba......the middle of some greens and cornbread on my dinner plate.
Quote from: mack on April 22, 2010, 09:10:17 am
Quote from: terminator on April 21, 2010, 09:36:43 pm
So would Mack's pig.
Wait, isn't that Mack's pig!
(http://www.free-images.org.uk/animals/pot-bellied-pig.jpg)
Eerie resemblance............................................. :P
Ha,,, maybe when she is 15 years old, or if we didnt keep her on that special pig diet. My Puumba is a svelte, beautiful, athletic porcine princess,,, and i'll thank you to not liken her to that hideous sow you have posted on here.
No wonder she tries to bite you when she sees you,,,,,,,,,
Now my feelings are truly hurt; you invite Stat over to your house (a Bryant Hornet, no less) and not me?
Get over it Turdman. 'Bout time you NLR folks realized he's been a closet Hornet fan for years.
what in the world Mack ?!?!?! You have TerminatorStat over the house to meet Pumba, but The Earl is relegated to the no-tell-motel when he comes to town?
I'm crushed. Deeply saddened.
However, in light of the recent revelation of certain genetic links resulting from a clandestine love connection during the 1971 NLR Championship basketball season, I understand. Trying to establish a relationship, and catch-up on lost time with the son you never knew...
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 22, 2010, 09:40:46 am
what in the world Mack ?!?!?! You have TerminatorStat over the house to meet Pumba, but The Earl is relegated to the no-tell-motel when he comes to town?
I'm crushed. Deeply saddened.
However, in light of the recent revelation of certain genetic links resulting from a clandestine love connection during the 1971 NLR Championship basketball season, I understand. Trying to establish a relationship, and catch-up on lost time with the son you never knew...
And that is how the phrase "Mack Daddy" was coined. ;D
(http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/data/media/3/2_ugly_people.jpg)
Picture taken 1971, Saline County
Isn't that Mack ?
Quote from: birdman1981 on April 22, 2010, 10:07:20 am
(http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/data/media/3/2_ugly_people.jpg)
Picture taken 1971, Saline County
Isn't that Mack ?
Oh no u dint.
He was a player in the day................
Quote from: birdman1981 on April 22, 2010, 09:23:49 am
Quote from: mack on April 22, 2010, 09:10:17 am
Quote from: terminator on April 21, 2010, 09:36:43 pm
So would Mack's pig.
Wait, isn't that Mack's pig!
(http://www.free-images.org.uk/animals/pot-bellied-pig.jpg)
Eerie resemblance............................................. :P
Ha,,, maybe when she is 15 years old, or if we didnt keep her on that special pig diet. My Puumba is a svelte, beautiful, athletic porcine princess,,, and i'll thank you to not liken her to that hideous sow you have posted on here.
No wonder she tries to bite you when she sees you,,,,,,,,,
Now my feelings are truly hurt; you invite Stat over to your house (a Bryant Hornet, no less) and not me?
Actually, Stat was over there when I came home early from a business trip,,,, hmmmmmm,,,,
I just thought he was there to welcome me back,,,,,,,,,
I think I need to have a little talk with Ms. Mack,,, or Puumba
Quote from: stattracker on April 22, 2010, 10:17:54 am
Quote from: birdman1981 on April 22, 2010, 10:07:20 am
(http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/data/media/3/2_ugly_people.jpg)
Picture taken 1971, Saline County
Isn't that Mack ?
Oh no u dint.
Mack and Momma Stat? Just Aksing!!!!!!!
Quote from: birdman1981 on April 22, 2010, 10:22:41 am
He was a player in the day................
Fo' a fiddy+ year old, I still got the "skilz that kilz"! Ain't NOBODY on here wants a piece of my H-O-R-S-E game, or if they are 45 or over, a piece of my 1 on 1 action.
I'm just sayin,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Alas my friend, Viagra is truly a wonderful miracle drug.
Quote from: birdman1981 on April 22, 2010, 10:07:20 am
(http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/data/media/3/2_ugly_people.jpg)
Picture taken 1971, Saline County
Isn't that Mack ?
Now that is funny!
Hey, fat chicks need lovin' too...
Quote from: birdman1981 on April 22, 2010, 10:07:20 am
(http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/data/media/3/2_ugly_people.jpg)
Picture taken 1971, Saline County
Isn't that Mack ?
Which one 00 or 13??
Quote from: 3 Dollar on April 22, 2010, 10:23:17 am
Quote from: stattracker on April 22, 2010, 10:17:54 am
Quote from: birdman1981 on April 22, 2010, 10:07:20 am
(http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/data/media/3/2_ugly_people.jpg)
Picture taken 1971, Saline County
Isn't that Mack ?
Oh no u dint.
Mack and Momma Stat? Just Aksing!!!!!!!
I was doing those squats that gave me the ability to play up around the rim although only 6' tall. It was taken seconds before I did a Star Trek, and "boldly went where no man had gone [or wanted to go] before". I'm still in therapy nearly 40 years later,,, and i don't mean physical therapy.
It was sooooooo dark,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I'd bet my last dollar that the only rim you got close to was the rim of a beer mug. :o
Quote from: terminator on April 22, 2010, 01:50:33 pm
I'd bet my last dollar that the only rim you got close to was the rim of a beer mug. :o
Got you there,,, I have pictures of me dunkin',,, and I don't mean a doughnut ;D ;D ;D
dang,,,, they didn't even have computers back then, so the picture must be real.....does it show the mini-trampoline you had to aid you?
Quote from: terminator on April 22, 2010, 02:04:18 pm
dang,,,, they didn't even have computers back then, so the picture must be real.....does it show the mini-trampoline you had to aid you?
Nope,,, you can see the whole court,, no mini-tramp, although I have used those and they are fun.
Now I get it, must have been taken while playing on those 8' goals at Lakewood Lakes! Peace Out.....holler at you after we blow out MSM.
Quote from: wildcatdad on April 22, 2010, 12:42:40 pm
Quote from: birdman1981 on April 22, 2010, 10:07:20 am
(http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/data/media/3/2_ugly_people.jpg)I guess "13" really is an unlucky number
Picture taken 1971, Saline County
Isn't that Mack ?
Which one 00 or 13??
Quote from: terminator on April 22, 2010, 02:06:49 pm
Now I get it, must have been taken while playing on those 8' goals at Lakewood Lakes! Peace Out.....holler at you after we blow out MSM.
Measured 'em both,,,, The goal by the tennis courts was 10'1", the one by the street was 9'9" and I was dunkin' on it in the 9th. grade.
Mack, ya'll got a game down there tonight?
I'll be at Burns Park this evening!
Quote from: Valleysports on April 22, 2010, 03:27:09 pm
Mack, ya'll got a game down there tonight?
I'll be at Burns Park this evening!
They play at Russellville tonight.lol.
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 21, 2010, 08:11:07 pm
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 21, 2010, 05:22:57 pm
A few tidbits for the Earl.
1. How is pitching against conference foes invaluable experience as a FRESHMAN albeit. Pretty sure she held her own even with the leaping calls.
2. Bryant features 7 count em' 7 girls w/ BA's well over .300 and with 3 over .400 Their lineup easily is best with NLR's if not better in certain areas. Would like to hear what the Tiger's lineup is doing 1-9 other than the few yoiu spoke of already to get a better comparison.
3. Would have to disagree with you as well on the defense of Bryant. Not near as good defensively this year as last year IMO. Did hear about the 10+ error game the Tigers have already had. Bryant may have a better defense than the Tigers, but not the strong point of the team. Not even close.
Love to hear your reply
1) I do not think you know what that means:
in·val·u·a·ble
–adjective
beyond calculable or appraisable value; of inestimable worth; priceless: an invaluable art collection; her invaluable assistance.
2) 1 - .523, 2 - .431, 3 - .389, 4 - .508, 5 - .375, 6 - .323, 7 - .340, 8 - .261 The 9-hole swaps between two different players. 18 HRs, 23 3B, 47 2B. That was the latest update I received.
3) Great. You have an opinion too...
Better understanding now of invaluable thanks to the Earl. But would one not think invaluable or reliable pitching as a Freshman against the Central teams of last and this year be not better suited than a Senior who has pitched against the fearless Fort Smith's of the world for the past 3 years???
Sorry Bait. Not to rain on your parade again.. ;D :-[
Just sayin...
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 22, 2010, 08:18:50 pm
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 21, 2010, 08:11:07 pm
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 21, 2010, 05:22:57 pm
A few tidbits for the Earl.
1. How is pitching against conference foes invaluable experience as a FRESHMAN albeit. Pretty sure she held her own even with the leaping calls.
2. Bryant features 7 count em' 7 girls w/ BA's well over .300 and with 3 over .400 Their lineup easily is best with NLR's if not better in certain areas. Would like to hear what the Tiger's lineup is doing 1-9 other than the few yoiu spoke of already to get a better comparison.
3. Would have to disagree with you as well on the defense of Bryant. Not near as good defensively this year as last year IMO. Did hear about the 10+ error game the Tigers have already had. Bryant may have a better defense than the Tigers, but not the strong point of the team. Not even close.
Love to hear your reply
1) I do not think you know what that means:
in·val·u·a·ble
–adjective
beyond calculable or appraisable value; of inestimable worth; priceless: an invaluable art collection; her invaluable assistance.
2) 1 - .523, 2 - .431, 3 - .389, 4 - .508, 5 - .375, 6 - .323, 7 - .340, 8 - .261 The 9-hole swaps between two different players. 18 HRs, 23 3B, 47 2B. That was the latest update I received.
3) Great. You have an opinion too...
Better understanding now of invaluable thanks to the Earl. But would one not think invaluable or reliable pitching as a Freshman against the Central teams of last and this year be not better suited than a Senior who has pitched against the fearless Fort Smith's of the world for the past 3 years???
Sorry Bait. Not to rain on your parade again.. ;D :-[
Just sayin...
Has pitched? I thought the Earl said she sat and watched the past 3 years?
Is this even still a score thread for this week's games. Couldn't tell. I'll post some just in case.
Gm 1
Greenbrier 4
Morrilton 0
Gm 2
Greenbrier 11
Morrilton 7
Bryant 15
MSM 2
Taking care of the games that we have to.
Russellville 2
MSM 0
Oh that was Boy's Soccer! ;D
Quote from: Valleysports on April 22, 2010, 09:47:18 pm
Russellville 2
MSM 0
Oh that was Boy's Soccer! ;D
::) Is that a sport????
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 22, 2010, 08:18:50 pm
Better understanding now of invaluable thanks to the Earl. But would one not think invaluable or reliable pitching as a Freshman against the Central teams of last and this year be not better suited than a Senior who has pitched against the fearless Fort Smith's of the world for the past 3 years???
Sorry Bait. Not to rain on your parade again.. ;D :-[
Just sayin...
I'm saying that although she gained
invaluable experience as a freshman,
IN MY OPINION neither team holds a significant advantage over the other in the area of pitching.
Feel free to share your own well thought out keenful insights into the strengths and weaknesses of whatever teams you feel most qualified to deftly analyze.
Side Note: One so n00bish might spend a moment of introspective thought and consideration before questioning the conclusions of a time tested softball sage such as yours truly,
The Official Moron of Fearless Friday, Earl, universally recognized
King of the softball board...
NLR-Russellville score?
Quote from: Valleysports on April 22, 2010, 09:47:18 pm
Russellville 2
MSM 0
Oh that was Boy's Soccer! ;D
The Russellville boy's soccer team played MSM's soccer team (all girl school)? I just have a hard time believing that one, haha ;D
Quote from: trevster10 on April 22, 2010, 10:22:57 pm
NLR-Russellville score?
NLR 4 Russvegas 1.
Cabot 3 Conway 1. Looks like transfer is pitching well.
Quote from: stattracker on April 22, 2010, 10:25:54 pm
Quote from: trevster10 on April 22, 2010, 10:22:57 pm
NLR-Russellville score?
NLR 4 Russvegas 1.
Cabot 3 Conway 1. Looks like transfer is pitching well.
So now Conway>Bentonville, too? Two games closer than what I was thinking. Bryant better not take Conway lightly either, it seems. And I guess the Van Buren-Central game is to be played sometime this weekend?
Quote from: bobcat81 on April 22, 2010, 09:24:58 pm
Is this even still a score thread for this week's games. Couldn't tell. I'll post some just in case.
Gm 1
Greenbrier 4
Morrilton 0
Gm 2
Greenbrier 11
Morrilton 7
Close games there? Did New pitch both games?
Quote from: trevster10 on April 22, 2010, 10:30:20 pm
Quote from: stattracker on April 22, 2010, 10:25:54 pm
Quote from: trevster10 on April 22, 2010, 10:22:57 pm
NLR-Russellville score?
NLR 4 Russvegas 1.
Cabot 3 Conway 1. Looks like transfer is pitching well.
So now Conway>Bentonville, too?
Two games closer than what I was thinking. Bryant better not take Conway lightly either, it seems. And I guess the Van Buren-Central game is to be played sometime this weekend?
VB and Cebtral are scheduled for tomorrow night. I thought they played a DH earlier in the season. Even if they are supposed toplay tomorrow I think it may be safe to say that game ain happening.
Quote from: stattracker on April 22, 2010, 10:34:07 pm
VB and Cebtral are scheduled for tomorrow night. I thought they played a DH earlier in the season. Even if they are supposed toplay tomorrow I think it may be safe to say that game ain happening.
And you guys give TT a hard time about his spelling...
Har-Ber 4
Bentonville 1
Great job Hanna Bender 12 K's. There are too many good things to say about our Wildcats..It would take all night. Both teams played almost perfect softball. We simply out hit them. Great job B-rod,DD,Chan. They lead the team by example. The better team won. One more thing.. I am very impressed with the entire Tiger nation. Starting from the top. Kent Early, total class act. I was very impressed with his professionalism. His players were also very respectfull and well disciplined. T.T. Way to nut up and come over. Luv you man. You too Spuds.
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 22, 2010, 10:42:37 pm
Quote from: stattracker on April 22, 2010, 10:34:07 pm
VB and Cebtral are scheduled for tomorrow night. I thought they played a DH earlier in the season. Even if they are supposed toplay tomorrow I think it may be safe to say that game ain happening.
And you guys give TT a hard time about his spelling...
I was gonna tell him that I thought it was a little early in the week to be drinking, but eventually decided against it. ;D
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 22, 2010, 10:42:37 pm
Quote from: stattracker on April 22, 2010, 10:34:07 pm
VB and Cebtral are scheduled for tomorrow night. I thought they played a DH earlier in the season. Even if they are supposed toplay tomorrow I think it may be safe to say that game ain happening.
And you guys give TT a hard time about his spelling...
I can't help my computer is in my room. My wife is asleep and the light is off. I have only the TV for light. I did not use spell check on that post. I hardly use spell check. If you look, they are honest mistakes with the "b" and "n" right next to each other. There is a big difference in making honest mistakes and not being able to do it at all. ;D
Quote from: wildcatdad on April 22, 2010, 10:45:19 pm
Har-Ber 4
Bentonville 1
Great job Hanna Bender 12 K's. There are too many good things to say about our Wildcats..It would take all night. Both teams played almost perfect softball. We simply out hit them. Great job B-rod,DD,Chan. They lead the team by example. The better team won. One more thing.. I am very impressed with the entire Tiger nation. Starting from the top. Kent Early, total class act. I was very impressed with his professionalism. His players were also very respectfull and well disciplined. T.T. Way to nut up and come over. Luv you man. You too Spuds.
Will he do it on here? Come on TT.
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 22, 2010, 10:15:06 pm
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 22, 2010, 08:18:50 pm
Better understanding now of invaluable thanks to the Earl. But would one not think invaluable or reliable pitching as a Freshman against the Central teams of last and this year be not better suited than a Senior who has pitched against the fearless Fort Smith's of the world for the past 3 years???
Sorry Bait. Not to rain on your parade again.. ;D :-[
Just sayin...
I'm saying that although she gained invaluable experience as a freshman, IN MY OPINION neither team holds a significant advantage over the other in the area of pitching.
Feel free to share your own well thought out keenful insights into the strengths and weaknesses of whatever teams you feel most qualified to deftly analyze.
Side Note: One so n00bish might spend a moment of introspective thought and consideration before questioning the conclusions of a time tested softball sage such as yours truly, The Official Moron of Fearless Friday, Earl, universally recognized King of the softball board...
No need in being a nOOb to question your thoughts HERO!! HAHA You may be the "Squire" of the softball board, but as an ump, well now we'll save those for the elites here of the Central conference. ;D
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 22, 2010, 10:15:06 pm
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 22, 2010, 08:18:50 pm
Better understanding now of invaluable thanks to the Earl. But would one not think invaluable or reliable pitching as a Freshman against the Central teams of last and this year be not better suited than a Senior who has pitched against the fearless Fort Smith's of the world for the past 3 years???
Sorry Bait. Not to rain on your parade again.. ;D :-[
Just sayin...
I'm saying that although she gained invaluable experience as a freshman, IN MY OPINION neither team holds a significant advantage over the other in the area of pitching.
Feel free to share your own well thought out keenful insights into the strengths and weaknesses of whatever teams you feel most qualified to deftly analyze.
Side Note: One so n00bish might spend a moment of introspective thought and consideration before questioning the conclusions of a time tested softball sage such as yours truly, The Official Moron of Fearless Friday, Earl, universally recognized King of the softball board...
So of those 5 losses the Tigers have now, how many were w/ said pitcher on the bump?? Including the blowouts now!! ;D Said pitcher for Bryant has only lost one game although 2 errors and a badly misplayed ball leading to a three run double cost her the only loss of the season w/ her on the bump. Still would have to give more than a slight advantage to Bryant.
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 07:12:36 am
So of those 5 losses the Tigers have now, how many were w/ said pitcher on the bump?? Including the blowouts now!! ;D Said pitcher for Bryant has only lost one game although 2 errors and a badly misplayed ball leading to a three run double cost her the only loss of the season w/ her on the bump. Still would have to give more than a slight advantage to Bryant.
Again, that is your opinion. You are welcome to it.
I would submit that your contentions on pitching superiority are based more on overall team performance than just pure pitching prowess. If you look closely at my analysis, my discussion was limited strictly to the two starting pitchers. Further, you will see that I clearly gave the
DEFENSIVE edge to Bryant - an element you have included in your pitching discussion.
I could easily rationalize each of Bentonville's losses and place the blame squarely on defensive lapses, but that was not the purpose of my discourse. My goal was to give an intelligent breakdown of the relative strengths of each team based upon my direct observations. Have you
personaly seen Bentonville play or is your opinion based solely upon rumor and innuendo?
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 01:30:26 am
No need in being a nOOb to question your thoughts HERO!! HAHA You may be the "Squire" of the softball board, but as an ump, well now we'll save those for the elites here of the Central conference. ;D
Not quite sure what you are trying to say here. Your insults are even more poorly conceived, constructed, and communicated as your overall game analysis...
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 07:12:36 am
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 22, 2010, 10:15:06 pm
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 22, 2010, 08:18:50 pm
Better understanding now of invaluable thanks to the Earl. But would one not think invaluable or reliable pitching as a Freshman against the Central teams of last and this year be not better suited than a Senior who has pitched against the fearless Fort Smith's of the world for the past 3 years???
Sorry Bait. Not to rain on your parade again.. ;D :-[
Just sayin...
I'm saying that although she gained invaluable experience as a freshman, IN MY OPINION neither team holds a significant advantage over the other in the area of pitching.
Feel free to share your own well thought out keenful insights into the strengths and weaknesses of whatever teams you feel most qualified to deftly analyze.
Side Note: One so n00bish might spend a moment of introspective thought and consideration before questioning the conclusions of a time tested softball sage such as yours truly, The Official Moron of Fearless Friday, Earl, universally recognized King of the softball board...
So of those 5 losses the Tigers have now, how many were w/ said pitcher on the bump?? Including the blowouts now!! ;D Said pitcher for Bryant has only lost one game although 2 errors and a badly misplayed ball leading to a three run double cost her the only loss of the season w/ her on the bump. Still would have to give more than a slight advantage to Bryant.
There does not seem to be a dominant pitcher in all of 7A this year. After seeing the young lady from Bryant, and the girl from Bentonville, pitching is a toss-up. Both have decent movement, but don't have the top end of the register to blow it by anyone. Both teams should expect other teams to hit the ball.
Quote from: mack on April 23, 2010, 08:57:14 am
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 07:12:36 am
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 22, 2010, 10:15:06 pm
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 22, 2010, 08:18:50 pm
Better understanding now of invaluable thanks to the Earl. But would one not think invaluable or reliable pitching as a Freshman against the Central teams of last and this year be not better suited than a Senior who has pitched against the fearless Fort Smith's of the world for the past 3 years???
Sorry Bait. Not to rain on your parade again.. ;D :-[
Just sayin...
I'm saying that although she gained invaluable experience as a freshman, IN MY OPINION neither team holds a significant advantage over the other in the area of pitching.
Feel free to share your own well thought out keenful insights into the strengths and weaknesses of whatever teams you feel most qualified to deftly analyze.
Side Note: One so n00bish might spend a moment of introspective thought and consideration before questioning the conclusions of a time tested softball sage such as yours truly, The Official Moron of Fearless Friday, Earl, universally recognized King of the softball board...
So of those 5 losses the Tigers have now, how many were w/ said pitcher on the bump?? Including the blowouts now!! ;D Said pitcher for Bryant has only lost one game although 2 errors and a badly misplayed ball leading to a three run double cost her the only loss of the season w/ her on the bump. Still would have to give more than a slight advantage to Bryant.
There does not seem to be a dominant pitcher in all of 7A this year. After seeing the young lady from Bryant, and the girl from Bentonville, pitching is a toss-up. Both have decent movement, but don't have the top end of the register to blow it by anyone. Both teams should expect other teams to hit the ball.
Maybe the lack "blow by" is just the extra 3 feet
Quote from: BBRB on April 23, 2010, 09:50:30 am
Quote from: mack on April 23, 2010, 08:57:14 am
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 07:12:36 am
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 22, 2010, 10:15:06 pm
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 22, 2010, 08:18:50 pm
Better understanding now of invaluable thanks to the Earl. But would one not think invaluable or reliable pitching as a Freshman against the Central teams of last and this year be not better suited than a Senior who has pitched against the fearless Fort Smith's of the world for the past 3 years???
Sorry Bait. Not to rain on your parade again.. ;D :-[
Just sayin...
I'm saying that although she gained invaluable experience as a freshman, IN MY OPINION neither team holds a significant advantage over the other in the area of pitching.
Feel free to share your own well thought out keenful insights into the strengths and weaknesses of whatever teams you feel most qualified to deftly analyze.
Side Note: One so n00bish might spend a moment of introspective thought and consideration before questioning the conclusions of a time tested softball sage such as yours truly, The Official Moron of Fearless Friday, Earl, universally recognized King of the softball board...
So of those 5 losses the Tigers have now, how many were w/ said pitcher on the bump?? Including the blowouts now!! ;D Said pitcher for Bryant has only lost one game although 2 errors and a badly misplayed ball leading to a three run double cost her the only loss of the season w/ her on the bump. Still would have to give more than a slight advantage to Bryant.
There does not seem to be a dominant pitcher in all of 7A this year. After seeing the young lady from Bryant, and the girl from Bentonville, pitching is a toss-up. Both have decent movement, but don't have the top end of the register to blow it by anyone. Both teams should expect other teams to hit the ball.
Maybe the lack "blow by" is just the extra 3 feet
Perhaps. I guess 55 at 40 is blow by for some hitters, but 55 at 43 is " oh boy, oh boy, oh boy,,,, I'm gonna tag this pitcher,,,,,,,,,,,, for good hitters. There's gotta be something in the change to 43". There's a heck of a lot more scoring this year.
I agree. Just that little extra reaction time batters get from 43' seems to be making a difference. Now, if a pitcher is moving the ball well on a given night, that can make a difference as well in the other direction...
No, they are not based on overall team performance. One could argue, which I am, that Bryant's schedule to date has been tougher than that of the Bentonville's. In that analysis to come out ahead on all but 1 against the defending state champs (NLR), I feel she has been better on the mound than the lady from B-ville. Granted you gave a breakdown of each category but had B-ville's pitcher not allowed the ball to be hit all over the field in some of the game's where her defense let her down and cost them a few games, then I feel they may be more of equality. Yes you did give the defensive edge to Bryant, but you also said that is their strongpoint, which by most I know would say that is definitely not true.
Isn't the point of Fearless Friday based upon rumor and innuendo??
Personaly?? Come now Earl, for the MORON that should be easily corrected.
Just know that the umps in last years state championship game were from the Central conference when all games played for state were in the West. Not sure if it rotates or not, just asking.
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 12:35:53 pm
Just know that the umps in last years state championship game were from the Central conference when all games played for state were in the West. Not sure if it rotates or not, just asking.
No, it doesn't rotate. When it comes to umpire assignments for softball, Don Brodell has abdicated his decision making authority to the softball umpires from the Central. No surprise that the same umpires from the Central end up calling 7A and 6A state every year.
Assignments have not been made for this year, but I will bet you $1,000 I can name the officials that will call 7A and 6A next month. I will also bet you Mike Love can do the same.
Last year the guys from the Central knew where they were going in March, but the AOA doesn't even send out the forms until late April. Explain to me how that happens. Nevermind, I already know.
What do you think Mike Love? Care to
guess name the umpires for each classification (7A & 6A)?
On a side note, Don Brodell assured me just a few weeks ago that he was going to make some changes. I'm not holding my breath...
Maybe the hand of GOD will reach down to the Earl and annoint him with the power of UIC in calling the State Championship game this year. Good luck!!
We'll all have to be there for that!! But we'll also be there for a rematch of last years game too.
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 01:05:50 pm
Maybe the hand of GOD will reach down to the Earl and annoint him with the power of UIC in calling the State Championship game this year. Good luck!!
We'll all have to be there for that!! But we'll also be there for a rematch of last years game too.
Bryant fans don't want me anywhere near that game. No
Lovely Ladies Leaping on my field...
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 23, 2010, 01:15:37 pm
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 01:05:50 pm
Maybe the hand of GOD will reach down to the Earl and annoint him with the power of UIC in calling the State Championship game this year. Good luck!!
We'll all have to be there for that!! But we'll also be there for a rematch of last years game too.
Bryant fans don't want me anywhere near that game. No Lovely Ladies Leaping on my field...
Think she's improved on the leaping, right. At least the games I've seen. You even called one game this year of Bryant's. I don't remember an IP for leaping in that game, at least not near as many as last year. It's been a while for me to remember that game though.
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 23, 2010, 01:15:37 pm
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 01:05:50 pm
Maybe the hand of GOD will reach down to the Earl and annoint him with the power of UIC in calling the State Championship game this year. Good luck!!
We'll all have to be there for that!! But we'll also be there for a rematch of last years game too.
Bryant fans don't want me anywhere near that game. No Lovely Ladies Leaping on my field...
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 01:29:04 pm<br />Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 23, 2010, 01:15:37 pm<br />Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 01:05:50 pm<br />Maybe the hand of GOD will reach down to the Earl and annoint him with the power of <b><font size="3" class="bbc_size"><font size="2" class="bbc_size">UIC</font></font></b> in calling the State Championship game this year. Good luck!!<br /><br />We'll all have to be there for that!! But we'll also be there for a rematch of last years game too.<br />
<br /><br />Bryant fans don't want me anywhere near that game. No <b><i>Lovely Ladies Leaping</i></b> on my field...<br /><br /><br />
<br />Think she's improved on the leaping, right. At least the games I've seen. You even called one game this year of Bryant's. I don't remember an IP for leaping in that game, at least not near as many as last year. It's been a while for me to remember that game though.<br />
That "lovely young lady" has improved a lot. She is to be commended for her work ethic and not constantly condemned on here for the past. She has put so much work into it and she does care about her performance on the field, as she knows the team relies on her and she relies on her team mates. She has had some called on her this year, but so have a lot of others. I would take her and our other one over any in the state in a heart beat and wouldn't hesitate to answer that in public either..
I recall hearing about a game where there was 81 illegal pitches called in one game. Is it true that umpires were told to calm that down and only call it if it was "completely obvious"? Just asking. That could explain the description we were give in Van Buren by the field umpire that the foot could be a certain distance but when it got higher than that it was illegal. REALLY? He even gestured and gave approximate distance with his fingers.
There is a bigger infraction going on now more than leaping. That is going outside the width of the pitching plate. I ain't talking half of the foot. I am talking about the whole body a foot outside of the pitchers plate. I have seen it from more than half a dozen pitchers this year and it only called once.
Yes, Earl did call a Bryant game this year with the 'lovely young lady" pitching and not a single Illegal Pitch was called in that game. I think he did a good job. I don't think there were even any infractions in that game to be called to be honest.
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 12:35:53 pm
No, they are not based on overall team performance. One could argue, which I am, that Bryant's schedule to date has been tougher than that of the Bentonville's. In that analysis to come out ahead on all but 1 against the defending state champs (NLR), I feel she has been better on the mound than the lady from B-ville. Granted you gave a breakdown of each category but had B-ville's pitcher not allowed the ball to be hit all over the field in some of the game's where her defense let her down and cost them a few games, then I feel they may be more of equality. Yes you did give the defensive edge to Bryant, but you also said that is their strongpoint, which by most I know would say that is definitely not true.
See n00bish one, here is where you hypothesis implodes, and your argument falls apart like a Haitian building in an earthquake. Focus carefully on the underlined text in your words above. This is precisely my contention - Her defense let her down and cost her a few games.
A pitcher need not necessarily strike every batter out to be dominant, let alone highly effective. If you are old enough, think Phil Niekro. If younger, think Greg Maddux.
While most assuredly an above average pitcher, I do not think either pitcher is dominant like Summerford, Wise, Sheldon, or Armstrong were (notice I did not include Lund in that list either).
Further, I offer the following quotation from a PM sent to me by one of the Hornet faithful. I have omitted the author's name to protect his or her anonymity:
Quote
Defensively, I think you were pretty spot on. We are weak at one spot.
Finally, and this will be my last word on the subject, I will address the following statement:
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 12:35:53 pm
Isn't the point of Fearless Friday based upon rumor and innuendo??
Granted there are those amongst us that are blinded by rabid support for a particular team. These commonplace trolls, like you, resort to
puffery in the most extreme fashion in order to justify the superhuman characteristics they attribute to their team, their children, and often times themselves.
Occasionally, we are blessed by gifted individuals that transcend these everyday prejudices and attain a level of consciousness and clarity of thought which permits concise, impartial, and well conceived interpretation of
facts to which the common man has been blinded.
You will find that this metamorphosis typically occurs when the individual is removed from the emotional bond to the game associated with the presence of a beloved daughter donning the uniform of a given school.
The transformation of these individuals can be difficult as they are often chastised by those closest to them. Individuals with whom they have broken bread, shared a cold one (or two), and travelled this fine state/country to cheer their team to victory, turn on them like one of Michael Vick's dogs. Harsh statements like "We're revoking your Chargin' Chicken card" are bantied about penetrating one's soul like a Manson Family fork in Sharon Tate's abdomen.
Alas, the blessings of these individuals are from time to time eventually realized, and they find themselves showered with offerings of Big Nasty's, catfish dinners, and that ambrosia of the gods - Mrs. Pretty Ricky's naner puddin'.
Blacksox, my friend, were you to live five lifetimes, you may never achieve the degree of understanding that
The Earl displays on a daily basis...
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 23, 2010, 02:10:40 pm
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 12:35:53 pm
No, they are not based on overall team performance. One could argue, which I am, that Bryant's schedule to date has been tougher than that of the Bentonville's. In that analysis to come out ahead on all but 1 against the defending state champs (NLR), I feel she has been better on the mound than the lady from B-ville. Granted you gave a breakdown of each category but had B-ville's pitcher not allowed the ball to be hit all over the field in some of the game's where her defense let her down and cost them a few games, then I feel they may be more of equality. Yes you did give the defensive edge to Bryant, but you also said that is their strongpoint, which by most I know would say that is definitely not true.
See n00bish one, here is where you hypothesis implodes, and your argument falls apart like a Haitian building in an earthquake. Focus carefully on the underlined text in your words above. This is precisely my contention - Her defense let her down and cost her a few games.
A pitcher need not necessarily strike every batter out to be dominant, let alone highly effective. If you are old enough, think Phil Niekro. If younger, think Greg Maddux.
While most assuredly an above average pitcher, I do not think either pitcher is dominant like Summerford, Wise, Sheldon, or Armstrong were (notice I did not include Lund in that list either).
Further, I offer the following quotation from a PM sent to me by one of the Hornet faithful. I have omitted the author's name to protect his or her's anonymity:
Quote
Defensively, I think you were pretty spot on. We are weak at one spot.
Finally, and this will be my last word on the subject, I will address the following statement:
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 12:35:53 pm
Isn't the point of Fearless Friday based upon rumor and innuendo??
Granted there are those amongst us that are blinded by rabid support for a particular team. These commonplace trolls, like you, resort to puffery in the most extreme fashion in order to justify the superhuman characteristics they attribute to their team, their children, and often times themselves.
Occasionally, we are blessed by gifted individuals that transcend these everyday prejudices and attain a level of conciousness and clarity of thought which permits concise, impartial, and well conceived interpretation of facts to which the common man has been blinded.
You will find that this metamorphisis typically occurs when the individual is removed from the emotional bond to the game associated with the presence of a beloved daughter donning the uniform of a given school.
The transformation of these individuals can be difficult as they are often chastised by those closest to them. Individuals with whom they have broken bread, shared a cold one (or two), and travelled this fine state/country to cheer their team to victory, turn on them like one of Michael Vick's dogs. Harsh statements like "We're revoking your Chargin' Chicken card" are bantied about penetrating one's soul like a Manson Family fork in Sharon Tate's abdomen.
Alas, the blessings of these individuals are from time to time eventually realized, and they find themselves showered with offerings of Big Nasty's, catfish dinners, and that ambrosia of the gods - Mrs. Pretty Ricky's naner puddin'.
Blacksox, my friend, were you to live five lifetimes, you may never achieve the degree of understanding that The Earl displays on a daily basis...
DaaaaaaNG
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 23, 2010, 11:44:42 am
I agree. Just that little extra reaction time batters get from 43' seems to be making a difference. Now, if a pitcher is moving the ball well on a given night, that can make a difference as well in the other direction...
Although movement is always important, it too is less effective when the hitter is not worried about getting smoked....They are able to relax and get a better look at the pitch
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 01:29:04 pm
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 23, 2010, 01:15:37 pm
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 01:05:50 pm
Maybe the hand of GOD will reach down to the Earl and annoint him with the power of UIC in calling the State Championship game this year. Good luck!!
We'll all have to be there for that!! But we'll also be there for a rematch of last years game too.
Bryant fans don't want me anywhere near that game. No Lovely Ladies Leaping on my field...
Think she's improved on the leaping, right. At least the games I've seen. You even called one game this year of Bryant's. I don't remember an IP for leaping in that game, at least not near as many as last year. It's been a while for me to remember that game though.
The Earl was behind the plate, and as such was not in a position to either observe or call violations related to leaping or crow-hopping...
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 23, 2010, 02:30:54 pm
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 01:29:04 pm
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 23, 2010, 01:15:37 pm
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 01:05:50 pm
Maybe the hand of GOD will reach down to the Earl and annoint him with the power of UIC in calling the State Championship game this year. Good luck!!
We'll all have to be there for that!! But we'll also be there for a rematch of last years game too.
Bryant fans don't want me anywhere near that game. No Lovely Ladies Leaping on my field...
Think she's improved on the leaping, right. At least the games I've seen. You even called one game this year of Bryant's. I don't remember an IP for leaping in that game, at least not near as many as last year. It's been a while for me to remember that game though.
The Earl was behind the plate, and as such was not in a position to either observe or call violations related to leaping or crow-hopping...
That is a fact. However, would you submit that if there were no violations called that none occurred?
Quote from: stattracker on April 23, 2010, 02:34:22 pm
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 23, 2010, 02:30:54 pm
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 01:29:04 pm
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 23, 2010, 01:15:37 pm
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 01:05:50 pm
Maybe the hand of GOD will reach down to the Earl and annoint him with the power of UIC in calling the State Championship game this year. Good luck!!
We'll all have to be there for that!! But we'll also be there for a rematch of last years game too.
Bryant fans don't want me anywhere near that game. No Lovely Ladies Leaping on my field...
Think she's improved on the leaping, right. At least the games I've seen. You even called one game this year of Bryant's. I don't remember an IP for leaping in that game, at least not near as many as last year. It's been a while for me to remember that game though.
The Earl was behind the plate, and as such was not in a position to either observe or call violations related to leaping or crow-hopping...
That is a fact. However, would you submit that if there were no violations called that none occurred?
If a tree falls in the forest, and no one is there to hear it, does it still make a noise?
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 23, 2010, 02:10:40 pm
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 12:35:53 pm
No, they are not based on overall team performance. One could argue, which I am, that Bryant's schedule to date has been tougher than that of the Bentonville's. In that analysis to come out ahead on all but 1 against the defending state champs (NLR), I feel she has been better on the mound than the lady from B-ville. Granted you gave a breakdown of each category but had B-ville's pitcher not allowed the ball to be hit all over the field in some of the game's where her defense let her down and cost them a few games, then I feel they may be more of equality. Yes you did give the defensive edge to Bryant, but you also said that is their strongpoint, which by most I know would say that is definitely not true.
See n00bish one, here is where you hypothesis implodes, and your argument falls apart like a Haitian building in an earthquake. Focus carefully on the underlined text in your words above. This is precisely my contention - Her defense let her down and cost her a few games.
A pitcher need not necessarily strike every batter out to be dominant, let alone highly effective. If you are old enough, think Phil Niekro. If younger, think Greg Maddux.
While most assuredly an above average pitcher, I do not think either pitcher is dominant like Summerford, Wise, Sheldon, or Armstrong were (notice I did not include Lund in that list either).
Further, I offer the following quotation from a PM sent to me by one of the Hornet faithful. I have omitted the author's name to protect his or her anonymity:
Quote
Defensively, I think you were pretty spot on. We are weak at one spot.
Finally, and this will be my last word on the subject, I will address the following statement:
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 12:35:53 pm
Isn't the point of Fearless Friday based upon rumor and innuendo??
Granted there are those amongst us that are blinded by rabid support for a particular team. These commonplace trolls, like you, resort to puffery in the most extreme fashion in order to justify the superhuman characteristics they attribute to their team, their children, and often times themselves.
Occasionally, we are blessed by gifted individuals that transcend these everyday prejudices and attain a level of consciousness and clarity of thought which permits concise, impartial, and well conceived interpretation of facts to which the common man has been blinded.
You will find that this metamorphosis typically occurs when the individual is removed from the emotional bond to the game associated with the presence of a beloved daughter donning the uniform of a given school.
The transformation of these individuals can be difficult as they are often chastised by those closest to them. Individuals with whom they have broken bread, shared a cold one (or two), and travelled this fine state/country to cheer their team to victory, turn on them like one of Michael Vick's dogs. Harsh statements like "We're revoking your Chargin' Chicken card" are bantied about penetrating one's soul like a Manson Family fork in Sharon Tate's abdomen.
Alas, the blessings of these individuals are from time to time eventually realized, and they find themselves showered with offerings of Big Nasty's, catfish dinners, and that ambrosia of the gods - Mrs. Pretty Ricky's naner puddin'.
Blacksox, my friend, were you to live five lifetimes, you may never achieve the degree of understanding that The Earl displays on a daily basis...
On one hand, I wish you had written some of my papers in college, but I think a 3.75 GPA will do just fine for me.
On the other hand, you were probably the one in class that others like me which we could ask to step outside and beat that **s for wasting our time coming to class to listen to such crap that's he's eyeball deep in to prove an insignificant point. This my friend, is a direct reference to you.
What is your profession fearless one? Besides the one one that gets your jollies going umpiring softball and attempting to feel the power in the right hand calling an IP.
He's the best darn barber in all of Bentonville.
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 03:33:27 pm
On one hand, I wish you had written some of my papers in college, but I think a 3.75 GPA will do just fine for me.
On the other hand, you were probably the one in class that others like me which we could ask to step outside and beat that **s for wasting our time coming to class to listen to such crap that's he's eyeball deep in to prove an insignificant point. This my friend, is a direct reference to you.
What is your profession fearless one? Besides the one one that gets your jollies going umpiring softball and attempting to feel the power in the right hand calling an IP.
See now, everytime you open your keyboard you expose your ignorance for all to see. First, you bust on me for leaving an "L" out of
personally, now you use
which instead of
wish.
Then you attempt to insult my being an umpire and display your ignorance of same by suggesting I garner some sort of thrill by extending my
right hand to signal an illegal pitch.
Sorry n00b. One extends one's left hand on an illegal pitch. Such a motion indicates to all a delayed dead ball situation has occurred. The extension of the right hand is the universal signal of an out.
Not that it matters, but I sell stuff to the world's largest retailer. I congratulate you on your proclaimed academic prowess. You must have the highest GPA of all the ditch diggers.
Give up yet? If you cannot tell, you will not win a war of words with me. I don't think you are old enough to have a daughter that plays so I must assume that either your sister or your girlfriend is a Hornet. If I was forced to guess, I would say that based upon your voracious defense of the pitching Peyton, that she is one or the other.
If interested, I have some lovely pictures of her leaping in last year's loss to NLR.
Keep going if you wish, but I think everyone can see who the victor is in this war of wit. Excuse me, but I must call call the Fayetteville at Rogers game...
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 23, 2010, 04:06:35 pm
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 03:33:27 pm
On one hand, I wish you had written some of my papers in college, but I think a 3.75 GPA will do just fine for me.
On the other hand, you were probably the one in class that others like me which we could ask to step outside and beat that **s for wasting our time coming to class to listen to such crap that's he's eyeball deep in to prove an insignificant point. This my friend, is a direct reference to you.
What is your profession fearless one? Besides the one one that gets your jollies going umpiring softball and attempting to feel the power in the right hand calling an IP.
See now, everytime you open your keyboard you expose your ignorance for all to see. First, you bust on me for leaving an "L" out of personally, now you use which instead of wish.
Then you attempt to insult my being an umpire and display your ignorance of same by suggesting I garner some sort of thrill by extending my right hand to signal an illegal pitch.
Sorry n00b. One extends one's left hand on an illegal pitch. Such a motion indicates to all a delayed dead ball situation has occurred. The extension of the right hand is the universal signal of an out.
Not that it matters, but I sell stuff to the world's largest retailer. I congratulate you on your proclaimed academic prowess. You must have the highest GPA of all the ditch diggers.
Give up yet? If you cannot tell, you will not win a war of words with me. I don't think you are old enough to have a daughter that plays so I must assume that either your sister or your girlfriend is a Hornet. If I was forced to guess, I would say that based upon your voracious defense of the pitching Peyton, that she is one or the other.
If interested, I have some lovely pictures of her leaping in last year's loss to NLR.
Keep going if you wish, but I think everyone can see who the victor is in this war of wit. Excuse me, but I must call call the Fayetteville at Rogers game...
Spelling almost correct. ???
Call Call not so sure about though. Ditch Digger close, but not so much. Give you a hint: If by chance in calling the game tonight, you pull up lame w/ a bad hammy or blow a disc? I'm the one to see. But I won't throw out too much medical lingo on here. Right, Stat!!!! Have you been asking around about me HERO?? Not old enough to have a daughter on the team. Correct, but one in waiting in about 13 years. Hope she's as good if not better than my lil' sis. No girlfriend, just my better and to you I guess, smarter half!! Correct about a sister on the team though. Right hand/Left hand doesn't matter to me. Baseball only mattered much to me, which by the way doesn't have such silly rules over leaping and IP's which I don't think gives much advantage to the pitcher, IMO. No relation to Bryant player referenced either, just a fan of the Hornets.
Hope you call a masterful game!!
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Har-Ber 3
Heritage 1
Can you say emotionally flat?!! I think we need to install a defibrillator in the dug out. When they flatten out........Clear......Wack....
I am pulling up a chair next to Trev and going to enjoy the show.
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 05:06:01 pm
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 23, 2010, 04:06:35 pm
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 03:33:27 pm
On one hand, I wish you had written some of my papers in college, but I think a 3.75 GPA will do just fine for me.
On the other hand, you were probably the one in class that others like me which we could ask to step outside and beat that **s for wasting our time coming to class to listen to such crap that's he's eyeball deep in to prove an insignificant point. This my friend, is a direct reference to you.
What is your profession fearless one? Besides the one one that gets your jollies going umpiring softball and attempting to feel the power in the right hand calling an IP.
See now, everytime you open your keyboard you expose your ignorance for all to see. First, you bust on me for leaving an "L" out of personally, now you use which instead of wish.
Then you attempt to insult my being an umpire and display your ignorance of same by suggesting I garner some sort of thrill by extending my right hand to signal an illegal pitch.
Sorry n00b. One extends one's left hand on an illegal pitch. Such a motion indicates to all a delayed dead ball situation has occurred. The extension of the right hand is the universal signal of an out.
Not that it matters, but I sell stuff to the world's largest retailer. I congratulate you on your proclaimed academic prowess. You must have the highest GPA of all the ditch diggers.
Give up yet? If you cannot tell, you will not win a war of words with me. I don't think you are old enough to have a daughter that plays so I must assume that either your sister or your girlfriend is a Hornet. If I was forced to guess, I would say that based upon your voracious defense of the pitching Peyton, that she is one or the other.
If interested, I have some lovely pictures of her leaping in last year's loss to NLR.
Keep going if you wish, but I think everyone can see who the victor is in this war of wit. Excuse me, but I must call call the Fayetteville at Rogers game...
Spelling almost correct. ??? Call Call not so sure about though. Ditch Digger close, but not so much. Give you a hint: If by chance in calling the game tonight, you pull up lame w/ a bad hammy or blow a disc? I'm the one to see. But I won't throw out too much medical lingo on here. Right, Stat!!!! Have you been asking around about me HERO?? Not old enough to have a daughter on the team. Correct, but one in waiting in about 13 years. Hope she's as good if not better than my lil' sis. No girlfriend, just my better and to you I guess, smarter half!! Correct about a sister on the team though. Right hand/Left hand doesn't matter to me. Baseball only mattered much to me, which by the way doesn't have such silly rules over leaping and IP's which I don't think gives much advantage to the pitcher, IMO. No relation to Bryant player referenced either, just a fan of the Hornets.
Hope you call a masterful game!!
My, my, my,,,, the angst of youth in full flower. If Alanis Morrissette was from Bryant, I'd swear you were her brother. You need to realize that your bile is what fuels The Earl, your vitriol nurtures his soul and warms his black heart. You give him power over you. You are in thrall to his will, slave to his wit and blinded by his science. [Man, I'm going to have to stop watching the Tudors and listening to Thomas Dolby,,, it is affecting my posting prose]
Wrong again young stallion, on several counts, but particularly the leaping. The pitcher is only 43 ft from the batter. If she is allowed to leap, she is even closer when releasing the ball. This is an advantage. I agreee with stat that pitcher's stepping to the outside of the rubber is a more egregious offense. Nonetheless, leaping is illegal. I don't care if it's Bryant or Bigelow,,, Sr. High or 10U,,, it should be called every time. Umps that see it, and don't call it,,, well, their's are in a jar on their wife's side of the bed. Hmmm, being a member of the medical profession,,, if The Earl pulls a glute,,,, will you come to his aid,,, you know,,, that Hippocrates thing.
The Earl, a ditch digger,,,,, I think not. My grandad was though, and raised a nice family that saw all his kids go to college. I'm sort of fond of ditch diggers. Although I know well his means of making a living, I won't share it on here. Suffice to say,,he is very talented and successful at what he does. He will not be numismatically intimidated by any member of the medical profession.
Study your sister well, she is a playah! Listen to about 60% of what stat tells you. Study The Earl's past posts in depth. Read the rule book backwards and forwards. Do all these things, and in about 10 years you may be ready to contest his knowledge of the game.
The artist formerly known as Mack
As a matter of fact, I remember Alanis all too well. Fond of her early music in my hayday!! ;D
Granted leaping does involve the pitcher approaching the plate from a shorter distance but also does leaping not involve the the young lady's momentum moving in an upward motion as well. Thus leading to less explosion being shifted into the power position creating a slightly slower pitch. Maybe not to the naked eye on the speed, but it does have some direct effect in the pitch not being delivered to it's max potential. Trust me Mack, mechanics of pitching was a forte of mine I learned from the pitching coach of Nolan Ryan while he was w/ the Rangers and while I was a former blacksox and hornet pitcher and player. Any movement not in the straight line direction of the recipient is loss of explosive momentum.
If you recall earlier, The HERO called myself a ditch digger. Your response was wrong. If the HERO is on the field when I'm attending a game and needs my medical assistance, I'll do my best. Actually just got re certified in CPR/AED training earlier this week. Would you be my other rescuer if I called on you for assistance? I'm sure you would help a new FF nOOb out.
So you know of my identity too. Not me personally, but you know of my sis, yes. I guess the word is getting out.
Formally known??
QuoteBaseball only mattered much to me, which by the way doesn't have such silly rules over leaping and IP's which I don't think gives much advantage to the pitcher, IMO.
Ah, my young friend, I can promise you that trying to match wits with one as astute as the EARL, you will lose. Only age, and with it comes the wisdom, and then once acquired, will you actually be on his astute level.
By the way, I know sis, she is a gem.
As for the 'leaping', whether it gives an advantage to the pitcher or not, it is still illegal according to the rulebook. Until it is changed, it should be enforced. I have watched her this year, and she has made great strides.
Back to the Earl, I promise you, if you keep 'messing' with him, no one, and I mean absolutely no one, is going to be happy in Saline County. The man hath no conscience when you go to friggin' with him. In all seriousness, he is one of the most knowledgeable gentlemen about the game and talent.
Stick to your baseball. Tell mom and dad the Terminator said hello.
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 09:05:03 pm
As a matter of fact, I remember Alanis all too well. Fond of her early music in my hayday!! ;D
Granted leaping does involve the pitcher approaching the plate from a shorter distance but also does leaping not involve the the young lady's momentum moving in an upward motion as well. Thus leading to less explosion being shifted into the power position creating a slightly slower pitch. Maybe not to the naked eye on the speed, but it does have some direct effect in the pitch not being delivered to it's max potential. Trust me Mack, mechanics of pitching was a forte of mine I learned from the pitching coach of Nolan Ryan while he was w/ the Rangers and while I was a former blacksox and hornet pitcher and player. Any movement not in the straight line direction of the recipient is loss of explosive momentum.
If you recall earlier, The HERO called myself a ditch digger. Your response was wrong. If the HERO is on the field when I'm attending a game and needs my medical assistance, I'll do my best. Actually just got re certified in CPR/AED training earlier this week. Would you be my other rescuer if I called on you for assistance? I'm sure you would help a new FF nOOb out.
So you know of my identity too. Not me personally, but you know of my sis, yes. I guess the word is getting out.
Formally known??
Not yet they don't. They have an idea that she is a very good player. Let's just say that they know her, but don't know her.
Your analysis of the leap is exactly what I was trying to say on here last year. i would submit that if the "leaper" can get to the front, or beyond, the circle then she has created somewhat of an advantage. However, there "leapers" that don't hardly go out near as far as they do if they were to push and drag. By rule they were in violation, but how much of an advantage did they really get.
As I mentioned to my good friend mack, privately, I kind of relate it to the crow hop rule. Earl, correct if I am wrong. It is a violation if the pitcher slides her pivot foot forward, just a hair, off of the rubber and replants then pushes off again. Now, they did violate a rule, but how much of an advantage was created in the scenario I presented. Now, i am not saying it should not be called, but I am talking about advantages that are/aren't gained in certain situations.
Also, I watched a whole game tonight filled with "leaps" and "outside the width of the rubber", and it was not our school as we were off tonight. Now, I keep hearing this about "toe pointed down". Earl, can you tell me where in the rule book it says that it is ok to leap as long as the toe is pointed down or to avoid the hole? I would really love to see this in fine print.
I am also awaiting, not saying I am entitled, an answer from someone about the 81 illegal pitch call game that resulted in an "alleged" meeting saying to cut out the "not so obvious" violations, but to call the "very obvious" ones.
Also, Earl, I have seen, this very year, some umpires signal with the right arm. You are correct about the left arm though. Not that you need my help.
SEARCY - 5
MARION - 1
:( Benton beats Sheridan 16-6
Quote from: terminator on April 23, 2010, 09:17:36 pm
QuoteBaseball only mattered much to me, which by the way doesn't have such silly rules over leaping and IP's which I don't think gives much advantage to the pitcher, IMO.
Ah, my young friend, I can promise you that trying to match wits with one as astute as the EARL, you will lose. Only age, and with it comes the wisdom, and then once acquired, will you actually be on his astute level.
By the way, I know sis, she is a gem.
As for the 'leaping', whether it gives an advantage to the pitcher or not, it is still illegal according to the rulebook. Until it is changed, it should be enforced. I have watched her this year, and she has made great strides.
Back to the Earl, I promise you, if you keep 'messing' with him, no one, and I mean absolutely no one, is going to be happy in Saline County. The man hath no conscience when you go to friggin' with him. In all seriousness, he is one of the most knowledgeable gentlemen about the game and talent.
Stick to your baseball. Tell mom and dad the Terminator said hello.
I've heard that the HERO is very well versed in both softball and Webster's dict. I know of a few umps as well that I could persuade to call a game in my favor. I know that they wouldn't but the thought is there. One may be of relation to my baby's momma.
In all seriousness, I know of only Bryant's talent and maybe a few other teams girls and that's it. Just trying to get my posts up so I'm not a cheerleader like my older sis. I say my lil' sis learned everything she knows from watching her older yet much better baseball/softball playing brother. Hope she doesn't see this, but I tell her all the time. Love her though. I hope she keeps on keeping on and doing her own thing and learns a lot more than I did while playing.
The need for people to do their best to circumvent the pitching rules is mindboggling.
Just obey it and don't look to flaunt it. Trying to expand its limits or rationalizing those that seek to gain an advantage is self-revealing.
Bryant softball posters=Marion football posters(from years gone by)
Who did you watch tonight Stat?
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 10:06:35 pm
Who did you watch tonight Stat?
I am almost afraid to say.lol.
I am folding up my chair and leving the room in fear of what is getting ready to come and will blow this place up. I know what it possibly is and I am going to ask that it not happens and just leave it at that.
peace out from this thread.
Quote from: stattracker on April 23, 2010, 10:24:25 pm
I am folding up my chair and leving the room in fear of what is getting ready to come and will blow this place up. I know what it possibly is and I am going to ask that it not happens and just leave it at that.
peace out from this thread.
Ahhhh, C'mon wuss! Do like me, and just put your poncho on, and be ready to rumble! ;D
I'll be up waiting on the All-Time FF scores to be posted, so i'll have nothing better to do than wreak havoc on the softball board ;) Or attempt to, at least.
Quote from: QF© on April 23, 2010, 10:05:49 pm
Bryant softball posters=Marion football posters(from years gone by)
Not exactly what that means, but I will say this. I wouldn't hesitate to stick my neck out to defend my team, and the progress we have made, but I will never (not until I am much older and smarter anyways) challenge the Earl when it comes to rules, procedures, etc. Heck, when it comes to a word battle, no one can beat him.
And I'd rather it not get to a point where the Earl says something disrespectful to the girls on our team because someone is agitating him to the point where it seems necessary. I understand the need to get back at him would be necessary, but that would be getting at the team as whole, including people completely un-associated with said poster.
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 23, 2010, 05:06:01 pm
Spelling almost correct. ??? Call Call not so sure about though. Ditch Digger close, but not so much. Give you a hint: If by chance in calling the game tonight, you pull up lame w/ a bad hammy or blow a disc? I'm the one to see. But I won't throw out too much medical lingo on here. Right, Stat!!!! Have you been asking around about me HERO?? Not old enough to have a daughter on the team. Correct, but one in waiting in about 13 years. Hope she's as good if not better than my lil' sis. No girlfriend, just my better and to you I guess, smarter half!! Correct about a sister on the team though. Right hand/Left hand doesn't matter to me. Baseball only mattered much to me, which by the way doesn't have such silly rules over leaping and IP's which I don't think gives much advantage to the pitcher, IMO. No relation to Bryant player referenced either, just a fan of the Hornets.
Hope you call a masterful game!!
Correct me if I am wrong, but are there not rules in place in baseball requiring the pitcher to maintain contact with the rubber, come to a complete stop, etc., etc.,? Violation of said requirements result in a balk do they not?
Based upon all the wayward and misinformed comments tonight, I feel it is incumbent upon
The Earl to dispel all myths and rumors pertaining to illegal pitches. First of all:
LeapingIn NFHS,
the pivot foot may remain in contact with or may push off and drag away from the pitching plate prior to the front foot touching the ground, as long as the pivot foot maintains contact with the ground and within the 24-inch length of the pitcher's plate.The italicized text above is straight from the rulebook. Please note the following:
1) There is no mention of a hole in the ground, and
2) There is no mention of anyone gaining an advantage.
The following are classic examples of LEAPS:
(http://www.ed-and-emma.com/sitebuilder/images/DSC_4651-484x316.jpg)
(http://www.ed-and-emma.com/sitebuilder/images/DSC_4556-480x313.jpg)
(http://www.ed-and-emma.com/sitebuilder/images/DSC_4849-483x316.jpg)
Editor's Note: I selected these images to illustrate a point. They are all from the finals at Bogle Park last May. I guess it is just coincidence that these players, all pitching illegally, have reached the finals. So much for not gaining an advantage.
Crow-HopPushing off with the pivot foot from a place other than the pitcher's plate is illegal.You can't get any clearer than that. Again, no mention of advantage. Either the foot is in contact with the pitcher's plate or it isn't.
The key to determining a crow-hop is the position of the pivot foot when the hands separate. In the following illustration, please notice the pitcher's hands have not separated, and the pivot foot is no longer in contact with the pitcher's plate. This detail is important as the pitch does not begin until one hand is removed from the ball.
(http://www.ed-and-emma.com/images/ashdownleap.jpg)
Other ViolationsOne of the most common violations that is rarely called involves stepping back after the hands are brought together. This call is the responsibility of the field umpire.
Another common violation involves stepping outside the width of the pitcher's plate. Remember, the
entire foot must be outside of the pitcher's plate. Any part of the foot on that imaginary line and the pitch is legal. This call is the responsibility of the plate umpire, and in all honesty, this is a difficult call to make. As the plate umpire, you are so intensely focused on the pitch, it is difficult to detect unless blatantly obvious.
Finally, 2010 is the third consecutive year that enforcement of illegal pitches has been a point of emphasis for umpires. This year, the terminology "illegal pitches
must be called" was employed. From an umpiring perspective, the direction from the NFHS is abundantly clear, and all this talk of gaing an advantage is superfluous and somewhat supercilious.
Quote from: trevster10 on April 23, 2010, 10:49:07 pm
And I'd rather it not get to a point where the Earl says something disrespectful to the girls on our team because someone is agitating him to the point where it seems necessary.
I have nothing but the utmost respect and regard for the team from Bryant. I admire their coach (from afar), and all the players I have met have been pleasant and lovely young women.
As with all the teams that play this sport I enjoy so much, I wish them nothing but success, and feel fortunate to be a part of the game as an umpire, spectator, and a fan.
QuoteEditor's Note: I selected these images to illustrate a point. They are all from the finals at Bogle Park last May. I guess it is just coincidence that these players, all pitching illegally, have reached the finals. So much for not gaining an advantage.
I thought they started calling them more frequently last year?
QuoteEditor's Note: I selected these images to illustrate a point. They are all from the finals at Bogle Park last May. I guess it is just coincidence that these players, all pitching illegally, have reached the finals. So much for not gaining an advantage.
I would be remiss if I didn't comment on this. If you would have paid attention to the playoffs last year you would have known that more than one young lady pitched for the Hornets last year. The young lady you do not have a photo of from the Hornets pitched quite a bit more than the young lady you chose to overkill with photos. Also, the reason the young lady, you have pictured, was even in was because the starter was injured by a batted ball.
I will tell you the advantage that the Hornets had last year and that was a very potent offense and scored a heck of a lot more runs than everyone in the playoffs except NLR. Where's those pictures at? The public criticism that she continues to receive is outlandish and, to be honest, freaking ridiculous.
That young lady reads this site and now she is going to see that someone, who very well could call her game, is now posting pictures about her on this site. What is she to think now Earl?
Wouldn't it stand to reason that, if properly called, that it would be a huge disadvantage for the offending team?
I know this is a Drama Sport, but I think those pictures might be crossing the line. If Bryant's next game is called by an Umpire, who's viewed this subject on FF, he'll target that call. This could lead Stat into a life of taking evidence pictures and posting them year round. Such is the World of Arkansas Fastpitchl! ::)
If she is not leaping anymore (which the games I have seen this season, she hasn't leaped) it shouldn't be a problem in my opinion...
Quote from: wildcatdad on April 23, 2010, 08:27:32 pm
Har-Ber 3
Heritage 1
Can you say emotionally flat?!! I think we need to install a defibrillator in the dug out. When they flatten out........Clear......Wack....
If you were to do this, it would bring about a very serious law suit.
I believe they have the copyright on the "WACK-A-MOLE" game! ;D ;D ;D
Sorry Ugly, couldn't resist! ;)
Quote from: trevster10 on April 23, 2010, 10:49:07 pm
Quote from: QF© on April 23, 2010, 10:05:49 pm
Bryant softball posters=Marion football posters(from years gone by)
Not exactly what that means, but I will say this. I wouldn't hesitate to stick my neck out to defend my team, and the progress we have made, but I will never (not until I am much older and smarter anyways) challenge the Earl when it comes to rules, procedures, etc. Heck, when it comes to a word battle, no one can beat him.
And I'd rather it not get to a point where the Earl says something disrespectful to the girls on our team because someone is agitating him to the point where it seems necessary. I understand the need to get back at him would be necessary, but that would be getting at the team as whole, including people completely un-associated with said poster.
Rest assured 'lil ster10, if the Earl is as professional as I'm sure he is, this would never ever happen no matter what buttons were pushed. No professional official would ever "cheat" (don't like using that word) a player of the game!
Being an official of sports for 20+ years, I have seen this kind of stuff go on. Those individuals are in it for the wrong reasons, and need to get out of it. I don't think the Earl falls into that category!
Quote from: 3 Dollar on April 24, 2010, 07:05:44 am
Quote from: trevster10 on April 23, 2010, 10:49:07 pm
Quote from: QF© on April 23, 2010, 10:05:49 pm
Bryant softball posters=Marion football posters(from years gone by)
Not exactly what that means, but I will say this. I wouldn't hesitate to stick my neck out to defend my team, and the progress we have made, but I will never (not until I am much older and smarter anyways) challenge the Earl when it comes to rules, procedures, etc. Heck, when it comes to a word battle, no one can beat him.
And I'd rather it not get to a point where the Earl says something disrespectful to the girls on our team because someone is agitating him to the point where it seems necessary. I understand the need to get back at him would be necessary, but that would be getting at the team as whole, including people completely un-associated with said poster.
Rest assured 'lil ster10, if the Earl is as professional as I'm sure he is, this would never ever happen no matter what buttons were pushed. No professional official would ever "cheat" (don't like using that word) a player of the game!
Being an official of sports for 20+ years, I have seen this kind of stuff go on. Those individuals are in it for the wrong reasons, and need to get out of it. I don't think the Earl falls into that category!
I do agree with you on this. I have a great deal of respect for the man. I have sat at the same table and broke bread with the man. I have had conversations in private and public that leads to believe he nothing more than professional. However, you know that perception runs this world we live in. I can't speak for the individual who does not know this man and, sees this site, and forms a different opinion.
Quote from: stattracker on April 24, 2010, 12:45:43 am
That young lady reads this site and now she is going to see that someone, who very well could call her game, is now posting pictures about her on this site. What is she to think now Earl?
Wouldn't it stand to reason that, if properly called, that it would be a huge disadvantage for the offending team?
I would hope that anyone that read that post would realize the emphasis that has been placed on illegal pitching,
not by me but by the governing body of high school softball.
To suggest that I would single one player out for enforcement of a rule is asinine. I do my best to enforce the rules every play, regardless of the competition or who is playing. When I step on the field, I honestly am not aware of who the teams are. When making a call on a close play, you don't have time to think who is involved in the play.
I have tons of pictures and video of girls pitching. Most of them I couldn't even tell you who they are. We use them as training aids for umpire clinics so we can teach umpires what to look for.
I would also like to point out that since the photos in question were taken, I have called games for 2 of the teams shown. Care to guess how many illegal pitches I called in those games? Zero.
I'm sure you are all sitting there saying "well why are you making such a big deal out of it, and then not calling it?" Simple answer. I was behind the plate on both games. Difficult for the plate umpire to see leaping and crow-hops.
Honestly, much of the time it is difficult for the field umpire to see as well, particularly in two man mechanics which is used
most of the time in softball. The only time you will see three man crews in softball will be for the state tournament. It is much easier to see these violations in a three man system. The umpires spend more time on the foul lines which gives them a better angle to see the play.
(http://www.ed-and-emma.com/sitebuilder/images/allstarleap-401x376.jpg)
Editor's note: Notice the umpire (three man crew) in this photo is in excellent position to see the violation and make the call. He kinda looks familiar, doesn't he? ;D
(http://www.ed-and-emma.com/sitebuilder/images/Leap-600x459.png)
Editor's note: Whereas in this picture, the umpire is not in the frame. This game was from a regional tournament (two man crew) so the umpire with a runner on first is behind the 2nd baseman.
Also notice the orientation of the pitcher's pivot foot. See how her toe is pointed almost skyward? A dead giveaway that a LEAP has occurred. Hard for the pivot foot to push away and drag like that.
(http://www.ed-and-emma.com/sitebuilder/images/DSC_0686-597x394.jpg)
Editor's note: Thought I should post an example of a player doing it correctly as well. Looks like she is throwing a circle change...
Quote from: Valleysports on April 24, 2010, 01:25:33 am
I know this is a Drama Sport, but I think those pictures might be crossing the line. If Bryant's next game is called by an Umpire, who's viewed this subject on FF, he'll target that call. This could lead Stat into a life of taking evidence pictures and posting them year round. Such is the World of Arkansas Fastpitchl! ::)
As much as I wanted to last year, and almost did, I don't think it is right to be plastering photos of these players making mistakes. It is, IMO, worse than calling a player out.
Earl, let me make this very clear. I, in no way, believe you would cheat or do anything to change the outcome of a game. That's me though. That's not the common person, who does not know you as some of us do, and then sees a game that they question. I don't think that is too far from reality and perception of some people.
I don't see a problem with photos and video being used as training aids for new umpires. However, this is not the training site for that.
I'm telling you now, the emphasis that you talk about is not being emphasized. I won't go into details on here in the public forum.
I have sent you a PM concerning a few things late last night. I truly hope you do the right thing.
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 23, 2010, 11:36:40 pm
Quote from: trevster10 on April 23, 2010, 10:49:07 pm
And I'd rather it not get to a point where the Earl says something disrespectful to the girls on our team because someone is agitating him to the point where it seems necessary.
I have nothing but the utmost respect and regard for the team from Bryant. I admire their coach (from afar), and all the players I have met have been pleasant and lovely young women.
As with all the teams that play this sport I enjoy so much, I wish them nothing but success, and feel fortunate to be a part of the game as an umpire, spectator, and a fan.
Good form HERO!
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 24, 2010, 08:50:19 am
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 23, 2010, 11:36:40 pm
Quote from: trevster10 on April 23, 2010, 10:49:07 pm
And I'd rather it not get to a point where the Earl says something disrespectful to the girls on our team because someone is agitating him to the point where it seems necessary.
I have nothing but the utmost respect and regard for the team from Bryant. I admire their coach (from afar), and all the players I have met have been pleasant and lovely young women.
As with all the teams that play this sport I enjoy so much, I wish them nothing but success, and feel fortunate to be a part of the game as an umpire, spectator, and a fan.
Good form HERO!
See Sox, I think that's what you didn't realize when you first questioned me. My daughter graduated and retired from this sport several years ago. I, however, have continued to stay involved in the game. I do it because I love the game, and because I care about the kids.
If a school needs an umpire, I do anything I can to help them out. I don't ask about the money. I don't worry about mileage. I just go call the game.
Ask Mack and Birdman how much NLR has paid me to call the TOC.
I love this game, second only to football. If there is a game, I'll go watch it. The other night, I had just flown back from Chicago and I went straight to a game. Mrs. Earl gave me a hard time because I hadn't seen the grandbaby in nearly a week, and I didn't come straight home.
Would it make me happy to see Bentonville win State? Yes, but only because I have watched most of those girls play (as an umpire on the field) since they were 10 years old or younger. I could say the same thing about girls that play for Rogers, Harber, Springdale, Fayetteville, Elkins, Gentry, Gravette, Decatur, Farmington, etc.
Shoot, even after 1 game, I feel the same way about the catcher for Bryant. I think she is a great kid, and could tell she has a lot of personality. I watched her smash two home-runs, and when she came back on defense, she was still grinnin' from ear to ear. I told her they didn't really count as homeruns because they were wind-aided, and the field was a short porch anyway. I could just tell what a great kid she is.
I think Coach Stepp knows that if she ever needed my help as an umpire, all she has to do is call.
The Earl harbors no ill will or malice toward any coach, player, or fan. I mean come on, I even like Stat...
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 24, 2010, 09:57:51 am
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 24, 2010, 08:50:19 am
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on April 23, 2010, 11:36:40 pm
Quote from: trevster10 on April 23, 2010, 10:49:07 pm
And I'd rather it not get to a point where the Earl says something disrespectful to the girls on our team because someone is agitating him to the point where it seems necessary.
I have nothing but the utmost respect and regard for the team from Bryant. I admire their coach (from afar), and all the players I have met have been pleasant and lovely young women.
As with all the teams that play this sport I enjoy so much, I wish them nothing but success, and feel fortunate to be a part of the game as an umpire, spectator, and a fan.
Good form HERO!
See Sox, I think that's what you didn't realize when you first questioned me. My daughter graduated and retired from this sport several years ago. I, however, have continued to stay involved in the game. I do it because I love the game, and because I care about the kids.
If a school needs an umpire, I do anything I can to help them out. I don't ask about the money. I don't worry about mileage. I just go call the game.
Ask Mack and Birdman how much NLR has paid me to call the TOC.
I love this game, second only to football. If there is a game, I'll go watch it. The other night, I had just flown back from Chicago and I went straight to a game. Mrs. Earl gave me a hard time because I hadn't seen the grandbaby in nearly a week, and I didn't come straight home.
Would it make me happy to see Bentonville win State? Yes, but only because I have watched most of those girls play (as an umpire on the field) since they were 10 years old or younger. I could say the same thing about girls that play for Rogers, Harber, Springdale, Fayetteville, Elkins, Gentry, Gravette, Decatur, Farmington, etc.
Shoot, even after 1 game, I feel the same way about the catcher for Bryant. I think she is a great kid, and could tell she has a lot of personality. I watched her smash two home-runs, and when she came back on defense, she was still grinnin' from ear to ear. I told her they didn't really count as homeruns because they were wind-aided, and the field was a short porch anyway. I could just tell what a great kid she is.
I think Coach Stepp knows that if she ever needed my help as an umpire, all she has to do is call.
The Earl harbors no ill will or malice toward any coach, player, or fan. I mean come on, I even like Stat...
Feeling is mutual. I applaud him for not holding it against my DD an allowing her to walk when he could have rung her up on that pitch above her head. ;D
Well said.
The love of the game is a powerful thing. Every player, coach and umpire should have it.
Combined with character and integrity, it's a winning combination.
As for the pictures, I disagree with you, stat. New umpires aren't the only ones who need training. This is an excellent resource for the very specific examples that Earl normally posts. Players, coaches, umpires and fans all benefit. The individual players who are "called out" are not done so with malice. I would dare say 99.9% will use it in a constructive manner.
Quote from: True Fan on April 24, 2010, 11:20:09 am
As for the pictures, I disagree with you, stat. New umpires aren't the only ones who need training. This is an excellent resource for the very specific examples that Earl normally posts. Players, coaches, umpires and fans all benefit. The individual players who are "called out" are not done so with malice. I would dare say 99.9% will use it in a constructive manner.
We will agree to disagree. I sent you a PM explaining.
Your Stat of 99.9% is probably way off too.
Interesting that the photo of the U of A pitcher featured by Earl is a pitcher who (is doing quite well this year for U of A) has been called for some illegal pitches this year at U of A, 3 in 1 inning earlier this season. Yes, looks like she is probably throwing a circle change-up. Few pitchers would leap or replant on a change-up. Yet she was fortunate enough to be chosen by Earl to be featured as an example of a legal pitch. Much can be said for the point at which the photo was taken. A picture could be taken, in fact, of the same pitch to illustrate a legal and an illegal pitch depending on the timing of the photo.
Let's all keep in mind that Earl or as he calls himself, "The Earl" made these posting and explanations only for the good of the "lovely young ladies." That is why he makes statements like, "I guess it is just coincidence that these players, all pitching illegally, have reached the finals. So much for not gaining an advantage."
Why not include photos of "lovely young ladies" in this state who did not reach the finals. Better yet, photos of others who made the finals; they exist. Quite an honor to be selected for this public example by "The Earl."
With the thousands of photo samples out there it was thoughtful of him to select these players to illustrate his point. If he finds the time maybe he could go so far, in the interest of the girls, as to catalog each pitcher in the state and post photos of each girl's pitches on this public forum. Her change-up is legal, "see." Her screw ball appears legal in this photo, but if we look at this one timed slightly earlier it is in fact illegal, "see." According to these 3 photos of her riseball, this is a clearly legal pitch for her.
All pitchers should pitch legally and be called for illegal pitches in games (key point, in the games). It is a point of emphasis. Therefore umpires should call it consistantly. That is why they have training sessions, etc.
Why does Earl bring this up now, not for the girls.
He says, "Last year the guys from the central knew where they were going in March, but the AOA doesn't even send out the forms until late April. Explain to me how that happens?" "
"Nevermind, I already know. On a side note Don Brodell assured me just a few weeks ago that he was going to make some changes. I'm not holding my breath."
His following comment, "Bryant fans don't want me anywhere near that game. No Lovely Ladies Leaping on my field..."
He feels slighted by the AAA in not getting to umpire a big time state finals game. If he gets the chance to call the big 7A game he will make his presence known.
Maybe "The Earl" will have his day and get to call the 7A state finals game and let someone play photographer there.
Quote from: 3 Dollar on April 24, 2010, 07:05:44 am
Quote from: trevster10 on April 23, 2010, 10:49:07 pm
Quote from: QF© on April 23, 2010, 10:05:49 pm
Bryant softball posters=Marion football posters(from years gone by)
Not exactly what that means, but I will say this. I wouldn't hesitate to stick my neck out to defend my team, and the progress we have made, but I will never (not until I am much older and smarter anyways) challenge the Earl when it comes to rules, procedures, etc. Heck, when it comes to a word battle, no one can beat him.
And I'd rather it not get to a point where the Earl says something disrespectful to the girls on our team because someone is agitating him to the point where it seems necessary. I understand the need to get back at him would be necessary, but that would be getting at the team as whole, including people completely unassociated with said poster.
Rest assured 'lil ster10, if the Earl is as professional as I'm sure he is, this would never ever happen no matter what buttons were pushed. No professional official would ever "cheat" (don't like using that word) a player of the game!
Being an official of sports for 20+ years, I have seen this kind of stuff go on. Those individuals are in it for the wrong reasons, and need to get out of it. I don't think the Earl falls into that category!
I think my words have been misconstrued. I didn't mean to insinuate he was going to call a game unfairly. From just the short time that I have spent on this board, I have gathered that he is much more professional than that.
But. The conversation between him and blacksox was becoming more feisty by the minute. He hinted at picking on our girls when he said - "No lovely ladies leaping". That was a direct shot at PJ. I guess he said this not realizing how hard she has worked on this. But anyways, my point was that I didn't want this to become any worse than the leaping ladies comments. Becuase, being younger on this board, I have to keep quiet some of the time when it comes to stuff like that, but when you start with comments like those is when I will start to come unglued.
Changed my feeble mind
Quote from: fpfan on April 24, 2010, 12:49:38 pm
Why not include photos of "lovely young ladies" in this state who did not reach the finals. Better yet, photos of others who made the finals; they exist.
I did. See photo above from regionals. That team was eliminated.
Quote from: fpfan on April 24, 2010, 12:49:38 pm
Interesting that the photo of the U of A pitcher featured by Earl is a pitcher who (is doing quite well this year for U of A) has been called for some illegal pitches this year at U of A, 3 in 1 inning earlier this season.
Actually, I have the full series of that pitch at 10 frames per second. I assure you that it was legal from start to finish.
I always like it when a mom or dad gets on here and tries to pass as an expert on the rules, and in doing so exposes themself as a fraud. If you want to come on here and bash someone, at least try to know what you are talking about first. For example:
Quote from: fpfan on April 09, 2006, 10:12:23 pm
The rule is that the hands must be separated for not less than one second nor more than 10 seconds. The pitcher simply has to have the hands apart when stepping onto the rubber. They can have the ball in either the glove or the hand as long as their hands are separated (same as summer ball). The purpose of the rule is to stop the "quick pitch."
Wrong!!!!That is not what the rule says. In fact, the rule is the exact opposite of what you said.
The hands must be brought together in front of the body for not less than one second, but not more than 10 seconds. Rule 6, Section 1, Article 1c.
Quote from: fpfan on April 24, 2010, 12:49:38 pm
Maybe "The Earl" will have his day and get to call the 7A state finals game and let someone play photographer there.
Not a chance. I only called 7A last year because it was in my backyard. I doubt I will call any state tournament this year because they all are on the other side of the state.
With that said, I don't remember you complaining when I called your daughter's game in Ladyback Yard. You won that time.
Quote from: GreenMan on April 24, 2010, 02:01:45 am
If she is not leaping anymore (which the games I have seen this season, she hasn't leaped) it shouldn't be a problem in my opinion...
But if she does read this forum and the umpire in question above is the field umpire and that is his responsibility to look for leaps, would her attention or lack there of be not on the opponent in the box but the one who posts pics of her for all to see. Personal experience of mine says this is very hard to remove from the pitcher's psyche. It happens in all sports.
Quote from: blacksox3 on April 24, 2010, 01:57:36 pm
Quote from: GreenMan on April 24, 2010, 02:01:45 am
If she is not leaping anymore (which the games I have seen this season, she hasn't leaped) it shouldn't be a problem in my opinion...
But if she does read this forum and the umpire in question above is the field umpire and that is his responsibility to look for leaps, would her attention or lack there of be not on the opponent in the box but the one who posts pics of her for all to see. Personal experience of mine says this is very hard to remove from the pitcher's psyche. It happens in all sports.
Don't worry, he won't be. I can guarantee it.
Even next year when 7A returns to the West, I will not call. I decided after last year that I would not call 7A state for at least three more years. I have too many friends with daughters that play, and nothing good can come from my being involved.
I prefer 6A, 5A, 3A, and 2A. We don't have many teams up here in those classifications so it is easier on me.
Yes, Earl, you are a professional. I have gathered that from reading this forum. Continue in your quest to help the girls playing softball in Arkansas. We should all be grateful.
QuoteHis following comment, "Bryant fans don't want me anywhere near that game. No Lovely Ladies Leaping on my field..."
FPfan, your sarcasm is duly noted here.....don't know what personal grudge you hold against the squire, but it would be refreshing to have an umpire, once, that was consistent and knew the darn rule book. (and yes, darn was misspelled intentionally).
I am sure his intent was if she's leaping, she's leaping, and he would not hesitate to make the call. Much as I have picked on the squire, on and off the field, his knowledge of the game and the rules are impeccable. Crawl back in your hole before I add YOU to my list of 'hits' along with Tigger, Duds, and Sir sMack Alot. I am unmerciful when it comes to twits like you. :o
FPfan,
Let me guess, good detective work and based upon some of your previous post; must be from Nettleton and kin to one of the ladies whose picture was posted.
A leap is a leap.....end of discussion!
Quote from: fpfan on April 24, 2010, 02:16:39 pm
Yes, Earl, you are a professional. I have gathered that from reading this forum. Continue in your quest to help the girls playing softball in Arkansas. We should all be grateful.
Don't forget the [/sarcasm]...
I guess I could have just turned my back on the game when my daughter graduated like so many others have, but here's a little stat for you. The average age of umpires is in excess of 55 years of age. After this season, I expect 3 to 5 umpires to retire from actively calling games just in my area. We have one umpire under 30 years of age.
I have held three training sessions this spring for summer ball. Only two people under the age of 30 have shown.
When we do get young people to umpire, idiots outside the chainlink fence that think they know the rules berate them to such a point that they quit after a very short time. Do umpires make mistakes? Absolutely. Have I? Yes I have. I made a big one last night (in the JV game).
Some bozo that kept yelling at me because I wouldn't call a batter out for being out of the box even sent a threatening email to another umpire in my area saying I was lucky to get out of the park alive. Here's the problem.
While the batter may have been out of the box, she never swung at, offered to bunt, or otherwise attempted to contact the ball with the bat. I'm sure all of you can recite the entire rule to me chapter and verse that covers this infraction. I'll give you a hint: Rule 7, Section 3, Article 2.
QF, can we just [/end] thread?
There's no end to the stupidity...
So are the umpires calling the illegal pitching or not? Seems to me that if it is being called it could have a impact of some close games.
QuoteSo are the umpires calling the illegal pitching or not? Seems to me that if it is being called it could have a impact of some close games.
Ok rookie, (notice I did not call you a n00b), first off, welcome to Arkansas.
The problem we have had is the inconsistency of enforcement. I have even had an umpire tell me that it was not a 'leap' if her feet were not (and displayed with his fingers) this high off the ground, but was if she could clear a coke can.
Even when they do tend to call it, it is only during critical moments or game altering situations. They should be consistent with it regardless of timing or game situations.