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Girls:

Game 1:
E1: Vilonia 28
W4: Alma 38
4:00 pm, 2/20

Game 2:
W2: Farmington 61
E3: Greenbrier 21
4:00 pm, 2/21

Game 3:
W1: Harrison 49
E4: Maumelle 41
6:30 pm, 2/20

Game 4:
E2: Morrilton 32
W3:Clarksville 39
6:30 pm, 2/21


                              --- Game 5 ---
                              Winner (Game 1): Alma 46  
                              Winner (Game 2): Farmington 39
                              4:00 pm, 2/23

                              --- Game 6 ---
                              Winner (Game 3):  Harrison 57
                              Winner (Game 4): Clarksville 41
                              6:30 pm, 2/23


                                                                 --- Game 7:
                                                                 Winner (Game 5): Alma 37
                                                                 Winner of Game 6: Harrison 53
                                                                 6:30, 2/24


                                                                             Winner (Game 7 / #1 5A West seed): Harrison 
                                                                              Loser (Game 7 / #2 5A West seed):  Alma


                                                                 --- Game 8:
                                                                 Loser (Game 5): Farmington 64
                                                                 Loser (Game 6): Clarksville 51
                                                                 4:00, 2/24

                                                                              Winner (Game 8 / #3 5A West seed): Farmington 
                                                                              Loser (Game 8 / #4 5A West seed):  Clarksville


Boys:

Game 1:
E1: Maumelle 83
W4: Alma 60
5:15 pm, 2/20

Game 2:
W2: Farmington 46
E3: Greenbrier 68
5:15 pm, 2/21

Game 3:
W1: Harrison 74
E4: Vilonia 41
7:45 pm, 2/20

Game 4:
E2: Morrilton 69
W3:Clarksville 55
7:45 pm, 2/21


                              --- Game 5 ---
                              Winner (Game 1): Maumelle 76 
                              Winner (Game 2): Greenbrier 68
                              5:15 pm, 2/23

                              --- Game 6 ---
                              Winner (Game 3): Harrison 62
                              Winner (Game 4): Morrilton 43
                              7:45 pm, 2/23


                                                                 --- Game 7:
                                                                 Winner (Game 5): Maumelle 84
                                                                 Winner of Game 6: Harrison 66
                                                                 7:45, 2/24


                                                                             Winner (Game 7 / #1 5A West seed): Maumelle 
                                                                              Loser (Game 7 / #2 5A West seed):  Harrison


                                                                 --- Game 8:
                                                                 Loser (Game 5): Greenbrier 42
                                                                 Loser (Game 6): Morrilton 68
                                                                 5:15, 2/24

                                                                              Winner (Game 8 / #3 5A West seed): Morrilton 
                                                                              Loser (Game 8 / #4 5A West seed): Greenbrier


Just to get this started, and so we can have a bracket here, please post any info you can on the 5A West conference tournament. 
It starts on Feb 20 and runs through Feb 24 at Greenbrier. 
« Last Edit: February 25, 2017, 08:03:09 am by sevenof400 »

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I believe Harrison boys have lock up the #1

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Thanks, Cajun.

I'll keep updating the OP as we discover more.

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Girls on west side set:
Vilonia 1
Morrilton 2
Greenbrier 3
Maumelle 4

Boys 2 teams are set:
Maumelle 1
Morrilton 2
3 and 4 all depends on winner of greenbrier/vilonia next Friday night.

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Thanks BrierDad for that info - I am not sure I have the brackets right though so please remember this is a work in progress! 

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I believe Harrison boys have lock up the #1

The 1 overall seed? Or this stupid West vs East seed? If doing this East vs West seed crap, how could Maumelle lock up East seed when Morrilton is undefeated?

How is there a post on seeding on tournament when nothing is decided?

Coaches. Fix this now. Meet and seed.

1. Harrison
2. Maumelle
3. Morrilton
4. Farmington
5. Greenbrier
6. Vilonia
7. Clarksville
8. Alma

It's that easy.

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The 1 overall seed? Or this stupid West vs East seed? If doing this East vs West seed crap, how could Maumelle lock up East seed when Morrilton is undefeated?

How is there a post on seeding on tournament when nothing is decided?

Coaches. Fix this now. Meet and seed.

1. Harrison
2. Maumelle
3. Morrilton
4. Farmington
5. Greenbrier
6. Vilonia
7. Clarksville
8. Alma

It's that easy.

Ponca, each of east teams played Maumelle in non-conference game and they beat them all. So they are 1 seed.

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Are we talking about Battle at the Brier or other tournies in non district play?  I didn't think those games counted for district play.  For instance, didn't Vilonia beat Greenbrier but that doesn't count for district but Maumelle wins and it does?  Now I'm totally confused.

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The games that were going to count for seeding purposes were identified by the coaches at their preseason meeting as I understand it.  The down side here is that info is easily accessible to the fan.  Especially for those teams who played each other on multiple occasions.

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Maumelle vilonia greenbrier and morrilton have all played each other twice throughout the year (with the exception of vilonia vs greenbrier next week).
Boys
Maumelle is 6-0
Morrilton 3-3
Greenbrier 1-4
Vilonia 1-4

Girls
Vilonia 5-0
Morrilton 3-3 (owns tiebreaker over gb if gb were to upset vilonia)
Greenbrier 2-3
Maumelle 1-5

Not sure how someone can argue much with seedings based on games played.

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What day are semifinals and finals. ?

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Are we talking about Battle at the Brier or other tournies in non district play?  I didn't think those games counted for district play.  For instance, didn't Vilonia beat Greenbrier but that doesn't count for district but Maumelle wins and it does?  Now I'm totally confused.

Greenbrier, Morrilton & Vilonia played round robin in conference and Maumelle played each of them in a conference game and that's what decided the east standing/seeding. The AD came up with this plan.

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What day are semifinals and finals. ?

The semi's should be played on Thursday, Feb 23 and the finals on Saturday, Feb 25 Elvis.  Four games will be played on both days due to the need to determine 3rd and 4th place teams. 

I will update that info as soon as I know for sure though. 

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Ok...According to what I just saw in the newspaper the Finals and Consoldation games are played on Friday, not Saturday

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If Farmington beats Russellville tonight, they get the 2 seed.
If Harrison beats Alma tonight, the winner of Alma/Clarksville (@Clarksville I believe) will get the 3 seed.
If Alma beats Harrison tonight, Alma gets the 3 seed and Clarksville the 4.

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If Farmington beats Russellville tonight, they get the 2 seed.
If Harrison beats Alma tonight, the winner of Alma/Clarksville (@Clarksville I believe) will get the 3 seed.
If Alma beats Harrison tonight, Alma gets the 3 seed and Clarksville the 4.

WRONG ON ALL 3

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CONFIRMED THAT SEMIS ARE THURSDAY AND FINALS ON FRIDAY PER GREENBRIER AD

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Just found out that your conference record doesn't count for seeding at all except your record against teams in the same conference. So basically we've been playing games around the state that have no impact on your conference seeding.

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The conference tournament brackets are posted on the greenbrier website greenbrierschools.org under quick links.  Not all spots determined but possibilities are posted.  I would imagine it will be updated at some point over the weekend after tomorrow nights games. 

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The 1 overall seed? Or this stupid West vs East seed? If doing this East vs West seed crap, how could Maumelle lock up East seed when Morrilton is undefeated?

How is there a post on seeding on tournament when nothing is decided?

Coaches. Fix this now. Meet and seed.

1. Harrison
2. Maumelle
3. Morrilton
4. Farmington
5. Greenbrier
6. Vilonia
7. Clarksville
8. Alma

It's that easy.

How is Morrilton undefeated? Maumelle beat them twice this year.

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How is Morrilton undefeated? Maumelle beat them twice this year.

I think they are undefeated in their mixed 6A/5A conference, which means nothing for seeding the 5A-West conference tournament.  The only thing that matters, at least for the 5A-West, is head-to-head results.  The 5A-West is divided into a west side (Harrison, Farmington, Alma, & Clarksville) and an east side (Maumelle, Morrilton, Vilonia, & Greenbrier).  For the conference tournament, the East #1 will play the West #4, East #2 will play West #3, etc.

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Hopefully, that looks better.

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Harrison's win over Farmington tonight has finalized the girls bracket.

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Final Seed completed on West:
1. Harrison
2. Farmington (owns both tie-breakers)
3. Clarksville (owns tie-breaker over Alma)
4. Alma

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How is Morrilton undefeated? Maumelle beat them twice this year.

In "non-conference play"

The whole thing is ridiculous.

Harrison went 6-0 against 3 5A West teams. They didn't even play the other 4 teams.

The best thing that could happen is if the 8 5A West coaches got together on Saturday and ate chicken and waffles somewhere and seeded 1-8 based on eye test and results. Anything else is ridiculous.

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Fully updated and ready for Monday.   

Thanks Cajun Hog for that final piece of the puzzle.

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Chances Alma pulls off a shocking upset of Maumelle in the first round? Honestly curious what people think.

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Chances Alma pulls off a shocking upset of Maumelle in the first round? Honestly curious what people think.

Got as good of a chance as General Custer at Little Big Horn.

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Girls

Alma - 19
Vilonia - 15

Halftime

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Just got to Greenbrier. This arena not as good as I remember. It's been 5 years or so since I've been here.

I forgot how vicious Vilonia Girls fans are. Some hooligan keeps yelling at the refs and everyone in the gym can hear him. HIM. Not them. HIM. One guy making total rear of himself.

Alma up 8 in 4th Qtr.

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Girls

Alma - 38
Vilonia - 28

Final

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Your turn boys...

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Girls

Alma - 38
Vilonia - 28

Final

Well now, no reason to expect the East part of the West girls to be around after day one now.  And no state tournament for Vilonia.  Wow. 

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Honest question, when's the last time Vilonia's girls haven't been to state? It might be as simple as "last year" but I just can't remember.

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Honest question, when's the last time Vilonia's girls haven't been to state? It might be as simple as "last year" but I just can't remember.

It's been quite some time as I recall AT.  I'll have to look this one up. 

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wow. 4 seed beats the 1 seed. Any chance another 1 seed falls tonight? (I don't think so).

That was exciting. That's what 1-and-done or 1-and-advance is all about. 5A West has been missing out on this for so long. Very tense and exciting. Alma fans were going nuts last minute of the game. Vilonia fans were done complaining and accepting loss.

Maumelle boys are HUGE. Look like a college team. My 1st time to see them. I don't remember them having big guys like this in past. Alma boys got their work cut out for them.

I'm headed to find a place to smoke as I got weird Goblin fan hanging around me. May find another seat for next game.

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It's been quite some time as I recall AT.  I'll have to look this one up.

I have to believe the last time would have been prior to 2007 - and I'm not sure how far back from there the streak would go.  It could be quite a long one that just went by the boards today. 

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Boys

Alma - 17
Maumelle - 14

end of 1st

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Boys

Alma - 35
Maumelle - 37

Halftime

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Alma vs Maumelle boys game intense 1st half. Alma attacking Maumelle pressure and put them in foul trouble. Was in bonus in 1st period. #20 stroking it from 3. Had 7-point lead with 3 min left in half then you could see it. Alma's legs were gone. Maumelle closes half strong and hit 3 at the buzzer to go up 2 at half.

Best part of 1st half was Goblins boys showed up to gym just before that Maumelle run when Alma was up 7 and I saw a few "what in the world's".

I think the 2nd half gonna come down to if Alma's legs are gone vs Maumelle foul trouble.

Now to get in a quick cigarette before 2nd half.

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Farmington vs. Greenbrier on the boys side is going to be a good game considering Greenbrier is playing at home. Farmington was a good story this year with one of its key pieces bailing in the offseason and still piecing together such a good season. Harrison was a good story, but that was obvious.

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We're typically not a first-half team. Usually about midway through the third is when we shift into overdrive.

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Alma - 47
Maumelle - 55

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Maumelle boys are HUGE. Look like a college team. My 1st time to see them. I don't remember them having big guys like this in past. Alma boys got their work cut out for them.

You should see Parkview in person.  They are big and they can jump out of the gym. 

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nailed it.

Alma's legs were gone. Maumelle ran them to death in 2nd half.

Tremont impressive. #20 from Alma impressive too. Kid was just running on fumes and they finally took him out.

Gonna step out and find a place to eat in Greenbrier then try to get back in time for end of next girls game.

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nailed it.

Alma's legs were gone. Maumelle ran them to death in 2nd half.

Tremont impressive. #20 from Alma impressive too. Kid was just running on fumes and they finally took him out.

Gonna step out and find a place to eat in Greenbrier then try to get back in time for end of next girls game.

Wagon Wheel if it's open.  Great food there.

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Chances Alma pulls off a shocking upset of Maumelle in the first round? Honestly curious what people think.

Honestly AT, when I saw this matchup I was worried.  I was in attendance the year Alma beat Mills in the state championship game several years ago.  It's been in the back of my mind since the bracket was released.

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Honestly AT, when I saw this matchup I was worried.  I was in attendance the year Alma beat Mills in the state championship game several years ago.  It's been in the back of my mind since the bracket was released.

Great team you guys have Chief. Good defensive pressure. First half I thought we might have a chance because our zone seemed to be working and the Hornets weren't shooting the ball that well. I thought perhaps you guys weren't good shooters. Second half proved me wrong. I don't think it was our legs as much as Maumelle ramped up the defense and started making their shots.

Missed free throws hurt Alma in the first half. Maumelle is a good defensive and rebounding team who seems to be streaky with shooting. Great team. Classy players too. No chippiness.

Maumelle - 83
Alma - 60

FINAL

Thanks Nathan and Dathan. Nathan Corder put in a lot of hard work over the years for Alma basketball. Proud of him. Dathan came in and gave us his best in one year

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Great team you guys have Chief. Good defensive pressure. First half I thought we might have a chance because our zone seemed to be working and the Hornets weren't shooting the ball that well. I thought perhaps you guys weren't good shooters. Second half proved me wrong. I don't think it was our legs as much as Maumelle ramped up the defense and started making their shots.

Missed free throws hurt Alma in the first half. Maumelle is a good defensive and rebounding team who seems to be streaky with shooting. Great team. Classy players too. No chippiness.

Maumelle - 83
Alma - 60

FINAL

Thanks Nathan and Dathan. Nathan Corder put in a lot of hard work over the years for Alma basketball. Proud of him. Dathan came in and gave us his best in one year

Glad to hear it was a good clean game.  We had some words back and forth w/ Parkview Friday but other than that our guys just go out and play the game. 

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By the way, seven, on the subject of state tournament streaks being broken, that's the first time Alma boys haven't made it since 2008. 8 year streak.

 

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