The Moose heard tonight there were 4 Razorback football players who were leaving the team to play else where. All the Moose heard was one was a Runningback, 2 Linebackers and 1 cornerback. But didnt catch the names. Can anyone fill the Moose in on the names and where they're going?
AJ Turner, Nate Holmes, Myke Tavarres, and Ray Buchanan Jr.
Do you know where they're headed and the reason behind them leaving?
Turner leaving sucks. He had potential.
Quote from: the green moose on December 17, 2013, 08:14:45 pm
Do you know where they're headed and the reason behind them leaving?
Not sure where any are transferring to. Its just my opinion but I would think AJ Turner would probably look at ASU. They're leaving for different reasons such as lack of playing time, not fitting the system. Turner has been in BB doghouse for a while. Him transferring is no surprise.
Quote from: the green moose on December 17, 2013, 08:14:45 pm
Do you know where they're headed and the reason behind them leaving?
Holmes grades, Turner hasn't been in the program all semester, Tavares isn't ever going to play, and Buchanan quit 6 weeks ago.
Also, if we sign the full 26, we can expect 4 more to leave by summer to meet the 85 limit.
Turner has been hurt. How is a kid in a coach's doghouse if he hasn't played a down all year?
Quote from: gatecrasher on December 17, 2013, 08:38:50 pm
Turner has been hurt. How is a kid in a coach's doghouse if he hasn't played a down all year?
Apparently he had multiple off the field issues.
Yep. Several unreported incidents.
Quote from: Romeo on December 17, 2013, 08:11:29 pm
AJ Turner, Nate Holmes, Myke Tavarres, and Ray Buchanan Jr.
Good Riddance.
None of those players were recruited by Bielema.
Nope. Gotta get rid of the kids that won't and can't buy in.
Look at the change in mentality with MA basketball team. Makes a difference.
Plus I'll take Korliss, Alex, and Jonathan in my backfield over Holmes. Period.
Quote from: AirWarren on December 17, 2013, 09:31:23 pm
Quote from: Romeo on December 17, 2013, 08:11:29 pm
AJ Turner, Nate Holmes, Myke Tavarres, and Ray Buchanan Jr.
Good Riddance.
I figure hogville oozes with that type of stuff but really...a team as bad as we were is hardly in the position to be wishing anyone good riddance! If the only kids we get are the ones that come because of our "good" reputation....then forget about leaving the SEC we need to join the SOUTHLAND Conference!
I know AJ family. He's a good kid, probably made some bad decisions.He's been hurt all year since before the season. Transferring is probably a good move and I wish him nothing but luck and hope he succeeds wherever he goes.
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 17, 2013, 11:09:10 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 17, 2013, 09:31:23 pm
Quote from: Romeo on December 17, 2013, 08:11:29 pm
AJ Turner, Nate Holmes, Myke Tavarres, and Ray Buchanan Jr.
Good Riddance.
I figure hogville oozes with that type of stuff but really...a team as bad as we were is hardly in the position to be wishing anyone good riddance! If the only kids we get are the ones that come because of our "good" reputation....then forget about leaving the SEC we need to join the SOUTHLAND Conference!
Sure maybe a couple of the those kids had bad breaks but I am sure poor choices and bad attitudes regarding the new staff is the issue here.
With that said, the world gives you no breaks. If you are a poor employer, bad attitude at work, participate in conduct that does not reflect the code of ethics in a professional environment then you can be let go. This is nothing new.
I'm not saying that this is the case but it's life. If they don't want to be here then it's no skin off my back. We need players that buy in 100%. Not 50%.
Also, some of the players may buy in 100% and still not be good enough to play in the SEC therefor they transfer to a school where they can play. It does not mean that they are bad kids by any means.
Quote from: gatecrasher on December 17, 2013, 08:38:50 pm
Turner has been hurt. How is a kid in a coach's doghouse if he hasn't played a down all year?
When you injure the same wrist you are suppose to be rehabbing trying to dunk, and don't tell the staff, it doesn't endure you to them. I thought he was always going to be undersized for a SEC LB, but he had some promise. Hopefully he can clean up some of his issues and find a school to play at, the times I met him he really was a nice young man.
Kind of hard to rehab the injury he has with a cast on. Which he has had on for quite some time now.
Quote from: B.G. on December 17, 2013, 09:14:01 pm
Yep. Several unreported incidents.
Unreported UA player incidents in Washington County ? That's new !!!!
Quote from: bdubyab60 on December 18, 2013, 10:12:03 am
Kind of hard to rehab the injury he has with a cast on. Which he has had on for quite some time now.
Didn't say it happened recently, it didn't.
Quote from: Hoghead on December 18, 2013, 10:20:45 am
Quote from: B.G. on December 17, 2013, 09:14:01 pm
Yep. Several unreported incidents.
Unreported UA player incidents in Washington County ? That's new !!!!
How would you know, if they were unreported?
Quote from: AirWarren on December 18, 2013, 03:11:24 am
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 17, 2013, 11:09:10 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 17, 2013, 09:31:23 pm
Quote from: Romeo on December 17, 2013, 08:11:29 pm
AJ Turner, Nate Holmes, Myke Tavarres, and Ray Buchanan Jr.
Good Riddance.
I figure hogville oozes with that type of stuff but really...a team as bad as we were is hardly in the position to be wishing anyone good riddance! If the only kids we get are the ones that come because of our "good" reputation....then forget about leaving the SEC we need to join the SOUTHLAND Conference!
Sure maybe a couple of the those kids had bad breaks but I am sure poor choices and bad attitudes regarding the new staff is the issue here.
With that said, the world gives you no breaks. If you are a poor employer, bad attitude at work, participate in conduct that does not reflect the code of ethics in a professional environment then you can be let go. This is nothing new.
I'm not saying that this is the case but it's life. If they don't want to be here then it's no skin off my back. We need players that buy in 100%. Not 50%.
My point is treat these kids with respect even when the don't buy in! It will pay far more dividends than saying good glad you're gone! I KNOW FOR A FACT that other schools use Arkansas reputation on how it treats players that fall from grace against them! I understand that's done to other schools to but it hurts UA because we already behind the eight ball in recruiting.
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 18, 2013, 02:25:08 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 18, 2013, 03:11:24 am
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 17, 2013, 11:09:10 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 17, 2013, 09:31:23 pm
Quote from: Romeo on December 17, 2013, 08:11:29 pm
AJ Turner, Nate Holmes, Myke Tavarres, and Ray Buchanan Jr.
Good Riddance.
I figure hogville oozes with that type of stuff but really...a team as bad as we were is hardly in the position to be wishing anyone good riddance! If the only kids we get are the ones that come because of our "good" reputation....then forget about leaving the SEC we need to join the SOUTHLAND Conference!
Sure maybe a couple of the those kids had bad breaks but I am sure poor choices and bad attitudes regarding the new staff is the issue here.
With that said, the world gives you no breaks. If you are a poor employer, bad attitude at work, participate in conduct that does not reflect the code of ethics in a professional environment then you can be let go. This is nothing new.
I'm not saying that this is the case but it's life. If they don't want to be here then it's no skin off my back. We need players that buy in 100%. Not 50%.
My point is treat these kids with respect even when the don't buy in! It will pay far more dividends than saying good glad you're gone! I KNOW FOR A FACT that other schools use Arkansas reputation on how it treats players that fall from grace against them! I understand that's done to other schools to but it hurts UA because we already behind the eight ball in recruiting.
Let's hear the facts.
Quote from: ricepig on December 18, 2013, 03:16:55 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 18, 2013, 02:25:08 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 18, 2013, 03:11:24 am
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 17, 2013, 11:09:10 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 17, 2013, 09:31:23 pm
Quote from: Romeo on December 17, 2013, 08:11:29 pm
AJ Turner, Nate Holmes, Myke Tavarres, and Ray Buchanan Jr.
Good Riddance.
I figure hogville oozes with that type of stuff but really...a team as bad as we were is hardly in the position to be wishing anyone good riddance! If the only kids we get are the ones that come because of our "good" reputation....then forget about leaving the SEC we need to join the SOUTHLAND Conference!
Sure maybe a couple of the those kids had bad breaks but I am sure poor choices and bad attitudes regarding the new staff is the issue here.
With that said, the world gives you no breaks. If you are a poor employer, bad attitude at work, participate in conduct that does not reflect the code of ethics in a professional environment then you can be let go. This is nothing new.
I'm not saying that this is the case but it's life. If they don't want to be here then it's no skin off my back. We need players that buy in 100%. Not 50%.
My point is treat these kids with respect even when the don't buy in! It will pay far more dividends than saying good glad you're gone! I KNOW FOR A FACT that other schools use Arkansas reputation on how it treats players that fall from grace against them! I understand that's done to other schools to but it hurts UA because we already behind the eight ball in recruiting.
Let's hear the facts.
I know several recruits over the years that have told me what the recruiters said about Arkansas. This is in both football and basketball.
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 18, 2013, 03:25:30 pm
Quote from: ricepig on December 18, 2013, 03:16:55 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 18, 2013, 02:25:08 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 18, 2013, 03:11:24 am
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 17, 2013, 11:09:10 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 17, 2013, 09:31:23 pm
Quote from: Romeo on December 17, 2013, 08:11:29 pm
AJ Turner, Nate Holmes, Myke Tavarres, and Ray Buchanan Jr.
Good Riddance.
I figure hogville oozes with that type of stuff but really...a team as bad as we were is hardly in the position to be wishing anyone good riddance! If the only kids we get are the ones that come because of our "good" reputation....then forget about leaving the SEC we need to join the SOUTHLAND Conference!
Sure maybe a couple of the those kids had bad breaks but I am sure poor choices and bad attitudes regarding the new staff is the issue here.
With that said, the world gives you no breaks. If you are a poor employer, bad attitude at work, participate in conduct that does not reflect the code of ethics in a professional environment then you can be let go. This is nothing new.
I'm not saying that this is the case but it's life. If they don't want to be here then it's no skin off my back. We need players that buy in 100%. Not 50%.
My point is treat these kids with respect even when the don't buy in! It will pay far more dividends than saying good glad you're gone! I KNOW FOR A FACT that other schools use Arkansas reputation on how it treats players that fall from grace against them! I understand that's done to other schools to but it hurts UA because we already behind the eight ball in recruiting.
Let's hear the facts.
I know several recruits over the years that have told me what the recruiters said about Arkansas. This is in both football and basketball.
What, that we don't pay as well as OU or OM?
Quote from: ricepig on December 18, 2013, 04:21:44 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 18, 2013, 03:25:30 pm
Quote from: ricepig on December 18, 2013, 03:16:55 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 18, 2013, 02:25:08 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 18, 2013, 03:11:24 am
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 17, 2013, 11:09:10 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 17, 2013, 09:31:23 pm
Quote from: Romeo on December 17, 2013, 08:11:29 pm
AJ Turner, Nate Holmes, Myke Tavarres, and Ray Buchanan Jr.
Good Riddance.
I figure hogville oozes with that type of stuff but really...a team as bad as we were is hardly in the position to be wishing anyone good riddance! If the only kids we get are the ones that come because of our "good" reputation....then forget about leaving the SEC we need to join the SOUTHLAND Conference!
Sure maybe a couple of the those kids had bad breaks but I am sure poor choices and bad attitudes regarding the new staff is the issue here.
With that said, the world gives you no breaks. If you are a poor employer, bad attitude at work, participate in conduct that does not reflect the code of ethics in a professional environment then you can be let go. This is nothing new.
I'm not saying that this is the case but it's life. If they don't want to be here then it's no skin off my back. We need players that buy in 100%. Not 50%.
My point is treat these kids with respect even when the don't buy in! It will pay far more dividends than saying good glad you're gone! I KNOW FOR A FACT that other schools use Arkansas reputation on how it treats players that fall from grace against them! I understand that's done to other schools to but it hurts UA because we already behind the eight ball in recruiting.
Let's hear the facts.
I know several recruits over the years that have told me what the recruiters said about Arkansas. This is in both football and basketball.
What, that we don't pay as well as OU or OM?
Naw nothing about money just how we treat players at times.
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 18, 2013, 05:49:45 pm
Quote from: ricepig on December 18, 2013, 04:21:44 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 18, 2013, 03:25:30 pm
Quote from: ricepig on December 18, 2013, 03:16:55 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 18, 2013, 02:25:08 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 18, 2013, 03:11:24 am
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 17, 2013, 11:09:10 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 17, 2013, 09:31:23 pm
Quote from: Romeo on December 17, 2013, 08:11:29 pm
AJ Turner, Nate Holmes, Myke Tavarres, and Ray Buchanan Jr.
Good Riddance.
I figure hogville oozes with that type of stuff but really...a team as bad as we were is hardly in the position to be wishing anyone good riddance! If the only kids we get are the ones that come because of our "good" reputation....then forget about leaving the SEC we need to join the SOUTHLAND Conference!
Sure maybe a couple of the those kids had bad breaks but I am sure poor choices and bad attitudes regarding the new staff is the issue here.
With that said, the world gives you no breaks. If you are a poor employer, bad attitude at work, participate in conduct that does not reflect the code of ethics in a professional environment then you can be let go. This is nothing new.
I'm not saying that this is the case but it's life. If they don't want to be here then it's no skin off my back. We need players that buy in 100%. Not 50%.
My point is treat these kids with respect even when the don't buy in! It will pay far more dividends than saying good glad you're gone! I KNOW FOR A FACT that other schools use Arkansas reputation on how it treats players that fall from grace against them! I understand that's done to other schools to but it hurts UA because we already behind the eight ball in recruiting.
Let's hear the facts.
I know several recruits over the years that have told me what the recruiters said about Arkansas. This is in both football and basketball.
What, that we don't pay as well as OU or OM?
Naw nothing about money just how we treat players at times.
Our fan base is no different than the other psychotic ones.
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 18, 2013, 02:25:08 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 18, 2013, 03:11:24 am
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 17, 2013, 11:09:10 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 17, 2013, 09:31:23 pm
Quote from: Romeo on December 17, 2013, 08:11:29 pm
AJ Turner, Nate Holmes, Myke Tavarres, and Ray Buchanan Jr.
Good Riddance.
I figure hogville oozes with that type of stuff but really...a team as bad as we were is hardly in the position to be wishing anyone good riddance! If the only kids we get are the ones that come because of our "good" reputation....then forget about leaving the SEC we need to join the SOUTHLAND Conference!
Sure maybe a couple of the those kids had bad breaks but I am sure poor choices and bad attitudes regarding the new staff is the issue here.
With that said, the world gives you no breaks. If you are a poor employer, bad attitude at work, participate in conduct that does not reflect the code of ethics in a professional environment then you can be let go. This is nothing new.
I'm not saying that this is the case but it's life. If they don't want to be here then it's no skin off my back. We need players that buy in 100%. Not 50%.
My point is treat these kids with respect even when the don't buy in! It will pay far more dividends than saying good glad you're gone! I KNOW FOR A FACT that other schools use Arkansas reputation on how it treats players that fall from grace against them! I understand that's done to other schools to but it hurts UA because we already behind the eight ball in recruiting.
Ok. Let me say it a little different then.
Don't let the door hit ya in the butt on the way out.
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 18, 2013, 02:25:08 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 18, 2013, 03:11:24 am
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 17, 2013, 11:09:10 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 17, 2013, 09:31:23 pm
Quote from: Romeo on December 17, 2013, 08:11:29 pm
AJ Turner, Nate Holmes, Myke Tavarres, and Ray Buchanan Jr.
Good Riddance.
I figure hogville oozes with that type of stuff but really...a team as bad as we were is hardly in the position to be wishing anyone good riddance! If the only kids we get are the ones that come because of our "good" reputation....then forget about leaving the SEC we need to join the SOUTHLAND Conference!
Sure maybe a couple of the those kids had bad breaks but I am sure poor choices and bad attitudes regarding the new staff is the issue here.
With that said, the world gives you no breaks. If you are a poor employer, bad attitude at work, participate in conduct that does not reflect the code of ethics in a professional environment then you can be let go. This is nothing new.
I'm not saying that this is the case but it's life. If they don't want to be here then it's no skin off my back. We need players that buy in 100%. Not 50%.
My point is treat these kids with respect even when the don't buy in! It will pay far more dividends than saying good glad you're gone! I KNOW FOR A FACT that other schools use Arkansas reputation on how it treats players that fall from grace against them! I understand that's done to other schools to but it hurts UA because we already behind the eight ball in recruiting.
Ha. That's good Z. How can they use it against us,,, when they're doing it too? Heck, Auburn made a championship team of kids that were handled that way by other programs. The way CBB handles it is better than some. He tries to find places for them to play.
It's funny, when we sign this 3 Star guy from Suffolk, Va. or Ponca City, Ok, people are estatic ! He'll be a great Hog, we can make him better, he's just as good as a 5 Star kid !!!!
When he doesn't pan out.....He was a bum, He was a D2 guy anyway, kick rocks thug !
Comical I tell ya ! As we coast through a 0-8 SEC season and year 24 from the Hogs last out right conference title. Funny !
Quote from: Hoghead on December 19, 2013, 08:16:03 am
It's funny, when we sign this 3 Star guy from Suffolk, Va. or Ponca City, Ok, people are estatic ! He'll be a great Hog, we can make him better, he's just as good as a 5 Star kid !!!!
When he doesn't pan out.....He was a bum, He was a D2 guy anyway, kick rocks thug !
Comical I tell ya ! As we coast through a 0-8 SEC season and year 24 from the Hogs last out right conference title. Funny !
How about the 4* from VA or OK, is it all right to kick them to the curb, too? I'm guessing you don't visit many other team's boards, it isn't an exclusive trait of Hog fans, it's college wide. There is always a certain amount that find some solace in kicking people to the curb
Quote from: ricepig on December 19, 2013, 09:31:01 am
Quote from: Hoghead on December 19, 2013, 08:16:03 am
It's funny, when we sign this 3 Star guy from Suffolk, Va. or Ponca City, Ok, people are estatic ! He'll be a great Hog, we can make him better, he's just as good as a 5 Star kid !!!!
When he doesn't pan out.....He was a bum, He was a D2 guy anyway, kick rocks thug !
Comical I tell ya ! As we coast through a 0-8 SEC season and year 24 from the Hogs last out right conference title. Funny !
How about the 4* from VA or OK, is it all right to kick them to the curb, too? I'm guessing you don't visit many other team's boards, it isn't an exclusive trait of Hog fans, it's college wide. There is always a certain amount that find some solace in kicking people to the curb
It's evident you guess too much !
Quote from: Hoghead on December 19, 2013, 09:32:34 am
Quote from: ricepig on December 19, 2013, 09:31:01 am
Quote from: Hoghead on December 19, 2013, 08:16:03 am
It's funny, when we sign this 3 Star guy from Suffolk, Va. or Ponca City, Ok, people are estatic ! He'll be a great Hog, we can make him better, he's just as good as a 5 Star kid !!!!
When he doesn't pan out.....He was a bum, He was a D2 guy anyway, kick rocks thug !
Comical I tell ya ! As we coast through a 0-8 SEC season and year 24 from the Hogs last out right conference title. Funny !
How about the 4* from VA or OK, is it all right to kick them to the curb, too? I'm guessing you don't visit many other team's boards, it isn't an exclusive trait of Hog fans, it's college wide. There is always a certain amount that find some solace in kicking people to the curb
It's evident you guess too much !
Glad you agree with me.
Quote from: Hoghead on December 19, 2013, 08:16:03 am
It's funny, when we sign this 3 Star guy from Suffolk, Va. or Ponca City, Ok, people are estatic ! He'll be a great Hog, we can make him better, he's just as good as a 5 Star kid !!!!
When he doesn't pan out.....He was a bum, He was a D2 guy anyway, kick rocks thug !
Comical I tell ya ! As we coast through a 0-8 SEC season and year 24 from the Hogs last out right conference title. Funny !
If they aren't buying into what BB is wanting to do, then what purpose do they have on the field?
If they can't stay out of trouble off the field then what purpose do they have on the team without hindering?
Quote from: AirWarren on December 19, 2013, 09:52:33 am
Quote from: Hoghead on December 19, 2013, 08:16:03 am
It's funny, when we sign this 3 Star guy from Suffolk, Va. or Ponca City, Ok, people are estatic ! He'll be a great Hog, we can make him better, he's just as good as a 5 Star kid !!!!
When he doesn't pan out.....He was a bum, He was a D2 guy anyway, kick rocks thug !
Comical I tell ya ! As we coast through a 0-8 SEC season and year 24 from the Hogs last out right conference title. Funny !
If they aren't buying into what BB is wanting to do, then what purpose do they have on the field?
If they can't stay out of trouble off the field then what purpose do they have on the team without hindering?
If they don't have SEC Talent why waste the scholarship is the bigger question ? College students are going to do some stupid stuff...I doubt you had any stupid moments at UAM. BUT....Recruit talent for your system, recruit SEC Talent and pray they don't do anything stupid !
The SEC part I cannot answer. It all goes back to being better at recruiting which BB had no say in the recruitment of these guys. You could see a VAST difference in the mentality of HIS players in regard to the ones that were there when he got there.
As far as the UAM poke, go ahead and make fun. Your boy Obama and his liberal cohorts are licking their chops at the taxes they are going to get off me this year from that UAM degree :D
^^^^^ Dude you really don't want to talk taxes. I'll take yours, if you take mine. But you have to admit College days are some of your most idiotic moments of your life. I rolled out of HSU into the Navy because of a classic college moment ! LOL ! It worked out for me though !! Hogs just need to carefully recruit SEC TALENT !!
Good bye and best of luck where ever they land.
Quote from: Hoghead on December 19, 2013, 10:16:30 am
^^^^^ Dude you really don't want to talk taxes. I'll take yours, if you take mine. But you have to admit College days are some of your most idiotic moments of your life. I rolled out of HSU into the Navy because of a classic college moment ! LOL ! It worked out for me though !! Hogs just need to carefully recruit SEC TALENT !!
They are. I had some major mess ups in college, mainly involving women. I found out my little girl was coming into the world while I was in college. But she is a huge part of my happiness in life and I would not trade the dark places I have been through since college for the world. But you're right it works out for the best.
Quote from: Hoghead on December 19, 2013, 10:16:30 am
^^^^^ Dude you really don't want to talk taxes. I'll take yours, if you take mine. But you have to admit College days are some of your most idiotic moments of your life. I rolled out of HSU into the Navy because of a classic college moment ! LOL ! It worked out for me though !! Hogs just need to carefully recruit SEC TALENT !!
You don't think every school has guys leaving? FL has what, 6 or so transferring at semester? As far as SEC talent, well, start donating your taxes and we'll buy some.
Sounds too much like the old SWC to me ricepig. Weren't Rice and Arkansas the only ones that didn't get some probation ?
Quote from: mack on December 19, 2013, 08:05:02 am
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 18, 2013, 02:25:08 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 18, 2013, 03:11:24 am
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 17, 2013, 11:09:10 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 17, 2013, 09:31:23 pm
Quote from: Romeo on December 17, 2013, 08:11:29 pm
AJ Turner, Nate Holmes, Myke Tavarres, and Ray Buchanan Jr.
Good Riddance.
I figure hogville oozes with that type of stuff but really...a team as bad as we were is hardly in the position to be wishing anyone good riddance! If the only kids we get are the ones that come because of our "good" reputation....then forget about leaving the SEC we need to join the SOUTHLAND Conference!
Sure maybe a couple of the those kids had bad breaks but I am sure poor choices and bad attitudes regarding the new staff is the issue here.
With that said, the world gives you no breaks. If you are a poor employer, bad attitude at work, participate in conduct that does not reflect the code of ethics in a professional environment then you can be let go. This is nothing new.
I'm not saying that this is the case but it's life. If they don't want to be here then it's no skin off my back. We need players that buy in 100%. Not 50%.
My point is treat these kids with respect even when the don't buy in! It will pay far more dividends than saying good glad you're gone! I KNOW FOR A FACT that other schools use Arkansas reputation on how it treats players that fall from grace against them! I understand that's done to other schools to but it hurts UA because we already behind the eight ball in recruiting.
Ha. That's good Z. How can they use it against us,,, when they're doing it too? Heck, Auburn made a championship team of kids that were handled that way by other programs. The way CBB handles it is better than some. He tries to find places for them to play.
Don't be like AW he's a self made man... ::) What I am saying is kids and recruiters talk among themselves everything said is not quoted in Hawgs Illustrated or something. I am not comparing a kid that was trouble from day one and we kicked them out of the program. I am talking about kids that simply don't fit or don't want to fit with what coaches are trying to do. The f them there's the door does not play well and rival coaches tell recruits, you see how they done ...it plays in these kids and parents head. There is no need for that just wish the kid well even help them if you can. If recruiting is a business and these kids and their parents are what we are after, then you don't want them reporting bad experiences. Why do you think Petrino couldn't get recruits here after winning 10 games back to back? The word was out that BP was an offensive genius but about as personable as an alligator! His assistance couldn't make up for his failing in that area and soon everyone knew he wasn't what he appeared to be.
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 19, 2013, 11:18:11 am
Quote from: mack on December 19, 2013, 08:05:02 am
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 18, 2013, 02:25:08 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 18, 2013, 03:11:24 am
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 17, 2013, 11:09:10 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 17, 2013, 09:31:23 pm
Quote from: Romeo on December 17, 2013, 08:11:29 pm
AJ Turner, Nate Holmes, Myke Tavarres, and Ray Buchanan Jr.
Good Riddance.
I figure hogville oozes with that type of stuff but really...a team as bad as we were is hardly in the position to be wishing anyone good riddance! If the only kids we get are the ones that come because of our "good" reputation....then forget about leaving the SEC we need to join the SOUTHLAND Conference!
Sure maybe a couple of the those kids had bad breaks but I am sure poor choices and bad attitudes regarding the new staff is the issue here.
With that said, the world gives you no breaks. If you are a poor employer, bad attitude at work, participate in conduct that does not reflect the code of ethics in a professional environment then you can be let go. This is nothing new.
I'm not saying that this is the case but it's life. If they don't want to be here then it's no skin off my back. We need players that buy in 100%. Not 50%.
My point is treat these kids with respect even when the don't buy in! It will pay far more dividends than saying good glad you're gone! I KNOW FOR A FACT that other schools use Arkansas reputation on how it treats players that fall from grace against them! I understand that's done to other schools to but it hurts UA because we already behind the eight ball in recruiting.
Ha. That's good Z. How can they use it against us,,, when they're doing it too? Heck, Auburn made a championship team of kids that were handled that way by other programs. The way CBB handles it is better than some. He tries to find places for them to play.
Don't be like AW he's a self made man... ::) What I am saying is kids and recruiters talk among themselves everything said is not quoted in Hawgs Illustrated or something. I am not comparing a kid that was trouble from day one and we kicked them out of the program. I am talking about kids that simply don't fit or don't want to fit with what coaches are trying to do. The f them there's the door does not play well and rival coaches tell recruits, you see how they done ...it plays in these kids and parents head. There is no need for that just wish the kid well even help them if you can. If recruiting is a business and these kids and their parents are what we are after, then you don't want them reporting bad experiences. Why do you think Petrino couldn't get recruits here after winning 10 games back to back? The word was out that BP was an offensive genius but about as personable as an alligator! His assistance couldn't make up for his failing in that area and soon everyone knew he wasn't what he appeared to be.
How many recruits care what AW has to say? How many even know he said it? I agree that the coaching staff is very important in building relationships with these kids, it appears we've got a head coach and a couple other coaches that relate well with the kids. I don't see the purpose of saying it, but I doubt it reaches their ears, or has any sway. I read where someone thanked Tavares for being here, he replied that he had a great time and really enjoyed his time here and appreciated the opportunity.
But I'm a donor, season ticket holder. My opinion should always matter.
Quote from: AirWarren on December 19, 2013, 09:29:21 pm
But I'm a donor, season ticket holder. My opinion should always matter.
Nah, you're trying to pull my leg. Now, if you're giving them $100 handshakes, then opine away.
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^^^^^ Dude you really don't want to talk taxes. I'll take yours, if you take mine. But you have to admit College days are some of your most idiotic moments of your life. I rolled out of HSU into the Navy because of a classic college moment ! LOL ! It worked out for me though !! Hogs just need to carefully recruit SEC TALENT !!
You don't think every school has guys leaving? FL has what, 6 or so transferring at semester? As far as SEC talent, well, start donating your taxes and we'll buy some.
Why can't we use your money ?
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AJ Turner, Nate Holmes, Myke Tavarres, and Ray Buchanan Jr.
Good Riddance.
I figure hogville oozes with that type of stuff but really...a team as bad as we were is hardly in the position to be wishing anyone good riddance! If the only kids we get are the ones that come because of our "good" reputation....then forget about leaving the SEC we need to join the SOUTHLAND Conference!
Sure maybe a couple of the those kids had bad breaks but I am sure poor choices and bad attitudes regarding the new staff is the issue here.
With that said, the world gives you no breaks. If you are a poor employer, bad attitude at work, participate in conduct that does not reflect the code of ethics in a professional environment then you can be let go. This is nothing new.
I'm not saying that this is the case but it's life. If they don't want to be here then it's no skin off my back. We need players that buy in 100%. Not 50%.
My point is treat these kids with respect even when the don't buy in! It will pay far more dividends than saying good glad you're gone! I KNOW FOR A FACT that other schools use Arkansas reputation on how it treats players that fall from grace against them! I understand that's done to other schools to but it hurts UA because we already behind the eight ball in recruiting.
Let's hear the facts.
I know several recruits over the years that have told me what the recruiters said about Arkansas. This is in both football and basketball.
You know several recruits...and they told YOU? This should be interesting...let's hear about these recruits ZD...
Quote from: ricepig on December 19, 2013, 09:56:21 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 19, 2013, 09:29:21 pm
But I'm a donor, season ticket holder. My opinion should always matter.
Nah, you're trying to pull my leg. Now, if you're giving them $100 handshakes, then opine away.
Hey, see how silly that "entitlement" thing sounds like when someone is a donor and season ticket holder and is displeased? Haha.
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on December 20, 2013, 11:14:28 am
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Quote from: zebradynasty on December 17, 2013, 11:09:10 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 17, 2013, 09:31:23 pm
Quote from: Romeo on December 17, 2013, 08:11:29 pm
AJ Turner, Nate Holmes, Myke Tavarres, and Ray Buchanan Jr.
Good Riddance.
I figure hogville oozes with that type of stuff but really...a team as bad as we were is hardly in the position to be wishing anyone good riddance! If the only kids we get are the ones that come because of our "good" reputation....then forget about leaving the SEC we need to join the SOUTHLAND Conference!
Sure maybe a couple of the those kids had bad breaks but I am sure poor choices and bad attitudes regarding the new staff is the issue here.
With that said, the world gives you no breaks. If you are a poor employer, bad attitude at work, participate in conduct that does not reflect the code of ethics in a professional environment then you can be let go. This is nothing new.
I'm not saying that this is the case but it's life. If they don't want to be here then it's no skin off my back. We need players that buy in 100%. Not 50%.
My point is treat these kids with respect even when the don't buy in! It will pay far more dividends than saying good glad you're gone! I KNOW FOR A FACT that other schools use Arkansas reputation on how it treats players that fall from grace against them! I understand that's done to other schools to but it hurts UA because we already behind the eight ball in recruiting.
Let's hear the facts.
I know several recruits over the years that have told me what the recruiters said about Arkansas. This is in both football and basketball.
You know several recruits...and they told YOU? This should be interesting...let's hear about these recruits ZD...
None in this years class but yes I do know some kids that Arkansas has recruited in both football and basketball. NO, I will not tell you who they are because they are kids and I would not want it to used against them.
Quote from: AirWarren on December 20, 2013, 12:03:54 pm
Quote from: ricepig on December 19, 2013, 09:56:21 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 19, 2013, 09:29:21 pm
But I'm a donor, season ticket holder. My opinion should always matter.
Nah, you're trying to pull my leg. Now, if you're giving them $100 handshakes, then opine away.
Hey, see how silly that "entitlement" thing sounds like when someone is a donor and season ticket holder and is displeased? Haha.
If you don't think those who give a lot of money have influence, well, as Michael said in the Godfather, "Which one of us is being naive now, Kay?"
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 20, 2013, 12:11:03 pm
None in this years class but yes I do know some kids that Arkansas has recruited in both football and basketball. NO, I will not tell you who they are because they are kids and I would not want it to used against them.
What? Are they in 5th and 6th grade?
Assuming that they are older, where did they select to attend college?
Perhaps they should stop trying to throw their weight around. We suck. Is it because of them ?
Quote from: cuckoobird on December 20, 2013, 03:30:20 pm
Perhaps they should stop trying to throw their weight around. We suck. Is it because of them ?
No, it's because you have a poor attitude
Lmbo. Well they have failed miserably. Since you rub elbows with them just tell em i said they are idiots.
Quote from: cuckoobird on December 20, 2013, 03:38:47 pm
Lmbo. Well they have failed miserably. Since you rub elbows with them just tell em i said they are idiots.
You probably didn't think so a couple of years ago, nothing is ever as good as it seems, or as bad. 30 years of farming have taught me to ride out the good times and the bad, just stay positive.
Im pretty positive we suck
Quote from: cuckoobird on December 20, 2013, 04:29:00 pm
Im pretty positive we suck
Love the attitude, I'm sure you're a fun guy to be around. You may be FF's Eeyore..
Thats funny in more than one way. Was it intended or did you just get lucky?
Let's do a little math.
SEC's signing limits on a recruiting class = 25
Four classes (fr so jr sr) = 100
NCAA scholarship limits =85
100 - 85 = ........do I even have to continue to explain? Attrition is a necessary part of any program.
Do a little research on the caliber of recruits other schools, in the SEC, have committed. The rich get richer!
Quote from: Valleysports on December 21, 2013, 02:13:03 pm
Do a little research on the caliber of recruits other schools, in the SEC, have committed. The rich get richer!
Which has nothing to do with this topic, this is about transfers. Fact is, every school has them if they sign their full allotment of 25/year.
Of course every school has transfers each year, things happen. I just laugh at how people pump them up when the Hogs sign 4 foot 7 Reggie Fishoroski out of Taylor Arkansas. Then when he can't help the team and transfers, people be dogging him ! It's funny !!!! He was too short to be a Hog anyway ! I hope he goes to A-Tech and rides the bench ! Be gone Nome !
Quote from: Hoghead on December 23, 2013, 11:57:45 pm
Of course every school has transfers each year, things happen. I just laugh at how people pump them up when the Hogs sign 4 foot 7 Reggie Fishoroski out of Taylor Arkansas. Then when he can't help the team and transfers, people be dogging him ! It's funny !!!! He was too short to be a Hog anyway ! I hope he goes to A-Tech and rides the bench ! Be gone Nome !
Someone that small and quick would make a stellar punt returner.
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Quote from: Hoghead on December 23, 2013, 11:57:45 pm
Of course every school has transfers each year, things happen. I just laugh at how people pump them up when the Hogs sign 4 foot 7 Reggie Fishoroski out of Taylor Arkansas. Then when he can't help the team and transfers, people be dogging him ! It's funny !!!! He was too short to be a Hog anyway ! I hope he goes to A-Tech and rides the bench ! Be gone Nome !
Someone that small and quick would make a stellar punt returner.
Or cost you a SEC TITLE !!!!!!!!!!