The Big One: North Little Rock vs. Bentonville

[NLR4Eva]

Discuss?

[Lrbasketballguru]

Without Beard on the defensive end, containing Monk will be much harder. However, I give NLR the edge this year.They three-peat, too many weapons and not enough help for Monk on the Tiger side. If Bentonville still has Dixon that greatly helps their chances. The Monk vs. Allen match-up is one for the ages.

[Sect103]

Go NLR!

I agree that NLR has more to go around Allen than Bentonville does around Monk.

[ricepig]

Allen is the key to beating NLR, limit him, and you greatly increase your chances. Jonesboro beat them twice in conference by doing that, of course, you have to have guys to guard him. He's going to score, but wear him down doing it.

[Lrbasketballguru]

Allen is the key to beating NLR, limit him, and you greatly increase your chances. Jonesboro beat them twice in conference by doing that, of course, you have to have guys to guard him. He's going to score, but wear him down doing it.

I believe you could say the same for Monk and Bentonville.

[ricepig]

Allen is the key to beating NLR, limit him, and you greatly increase your chances. Jonesboro beat them twice in conference by doing that, of course, you have to have guys to guard him. He's going to score, but wear him down doing it.

I believe you could say the same for Monk and Bentonville.

No doubt, in fact, I'd guarantee a victory for NLR if they can shut Monk down. NLR will have several guys they can put on him, I know nothing of Bentonville's other options on offense.

[Lrbasketballguru]

Allen is the key to beating NLR, limit him, and you greatly increase your chances. Jonesboro beat them twice in conference by doing that, of course, you have to have guys to guard him. He's going to score, but wear him down doing it.

I believe you could say the same for Monk and Bentonville.

No doubt, in fact, I'd guarantee a victory for NLR if they can shut Monk down. NLR will have several guys they can put on him, I know nothing of Bentonville's other options on offense.

Lesson #1: Ricepig, you simply cannot "shut down" Monk. (nor Allen) Lol

[ricepig]

Allen is the key to beating NLR, limit him, and you greatly increase your chances. Jonesboro beat them twice in conference by doing that, of course, you have to have guys to guard him. He's going to score, but wear him down doing it.

I believe you could say the same for Monk and Bentonville.

No doubt, in fact, I'd guarantee a victory for NLR if they can shut Monk down. NLR will have several guys they can put on him, I know nothing of Bentonville's other options on offense.

Lesson #1: Ricepig, you simply cannot "shut down" Monk. (nor Allen) Lol

I read where Monk had some bad games in Florida, someone shut him down, and shut down, has many different meanings.

[businesstron]

Monk more or less won't be stopped.  No one player rather it be Allen, Hill or Moore is going to shut him down.  I would rotate  them all on Monk when ever the opportunity calls for it and then  spend the rest of time take his support cast out of the game.

I would think that NLR should win.  I don't think it'll be as close as Fayetteville was though.  Bentonville plays good D but I don't think they have enough to stop NLR from getting into the paint and scoring. 

[businesstron]

Allen is the key to beating NLR, limit him, and you greatly increase your chances. Jonesboro beat them twice in conference by doing that, of course, you have to have guys to guard him. He's going to score, but wear him down doing it.

I believe you could say the same for Monk and Bentonville.

No doubt, in fact, I'd guarantee a victory for NLR if they can shut Monk down. NLR will have several guys they can put on him, I know nothing of Bentonville's other options on offense.

Lesson #1: Ricepig, you simply cannot "shut down" Monk. (nor Allen) Lol

I read where Monk had some bad games in Florida, someone shut him down, and shut down, has many different meanings.

Yup...  that was against Wheeler.....they had an elite 6-7 guard that they could put on Monk.  I think the rest of their team was good as well.   

http://usatodayhss.com/2014/brown-carries-wheeler-past-bentonville

[urban legend2]

Yeah that Wheeler team is salty all the way around.

[DerekOxford]

I'll go NLR 75-65.

Monk will score 37 in a losing effort. Kevaughn scores 29 and gets MVP honors.

[kingoftherapids]

KJ Hill will hold Monk to 25 or less in my opinion. KJ is one of the best defenders in this state.

[WPWells]

I'll take Bentonville and then all those guys from NLR can leave the state without a real championship

[ricepig]

I'll take Bentonville and then all those guys from NLR can leave the state without a real championship

What about the 2013 one?

[WPWells]

That one wasn't vacated?

[ricepig]

That one wasn't vacated?

Nope

[WPWells]

My mistake

[ricepig]

My mistake

Forgiven, this time.

[Razorback Red]

Without Beard on the defensive end, containing Monk will be much harder. However, I give NLR the edge this year.They three-peat, too many weapons and not enough help for Monk on the Tiger side. If Bentonville still has Dixon that greatly helps their chances. The Monk vs. Allen match-up is one for the ages.

I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that NLR will win.  Bville matches up better with athletic teams than physical teams; hence the 2 losses to FHS this year vs win over Chaminade.  Bville will without question have the top player on the court, but NLR will prob have the next 3 best players.  With that said, if Bville's 2 bigs can compete on the glass and role players can hit a few outside shots, I like Bville's chances.  MM is going to do what MM does.  If he happens to be hitting his outside shot to open up the drive, then watch out. 

FWIW, I personally like JHemphill's game better than Dixon; he plays under control and takes the ball the the hole better. 

Should NLR win, probably, but their athleticism will not be anything Bville hasn't already seen.  I think the experience in FL and Springfield could end up being the difference in this game.

[Razorback Red]

Allen is the key to beating NLR, limit him, and you greatly increase your chances. Jonesboro beat them twice in conference by doing that, of course, you have to have guys to guard him. He's going to score, but wear him down doing it.

I believe you could say the same for Monk and Bentonville.

No doubt, in fact, I'd guarantee a victory for NLR if they can shut Monk down. NLR will have several guys they can put on him, I know nothing of Bentonville's other options on offense.

Lesson #1: Ricepig, you simply cannot "shut down" Monk. (nor Allen) Lol

I read where Monk had some bad games in Florida, someone shut him down, and shut down, has many different meanings.

In Monk's defense, he had the flu the first 2 games in FL and wasn't a huge factor in either game.  Some of that was due to the competition, but he wasn't 100% either. 

[4real]

One thing nobody's pointed out yet is the fact of how hard it is to win consecutive titles. Say what you want about last years violation, NLR has won two straight, winning 3 in a row is a heavy pressure to carry.

I think the recent adversity NLR has fought thru with all the drama makes them stronger and has given them that hunger again.  It's hard to stay hungry when your on top for so long, nothg helps that hunger like adversity and the need to prove yourself.

[mack]

That one wasn't vacated?

Nope

Thanks RPig.  12th man should learn not to make da statements before being sure of the facts.

[WPWells]

Acknowledged my mistake

[DerekOxford]

I will say this, while this North Little Rock team is very good, I don't know if it is as good as the previous two incarnations were.

[NLR4Eva]

I will say this, while this North Little Rock team is very good, I don't know if it is as good as the previous two incarnations were.

Heard the same thing last year. While it may be true, it doesn't really pertain to this season.

[mack]

Acknowledged my mistake

No Malice intended, just giving snark for snark. 

[mack]

I will say this, while this North Little Rock team is very good, I don't know if it is as good as the previous two incarnations were.

You are correct.  They're good but to rank the three years, the first year is 1, the second 2 and this year's 3.

[businesstron]

In the last 3 years I always thought last year's team had the most talent of the bunch.  The team with Alexander and Watkins had better chemistry though.  While this year might be the weakest compared to the last few year I think this bunch has been more battle tested more than the previous 2 teams.   

Overall their schedule was tougher and the 7a field in the tourney was the best it's been in probably 5 or 6 years.   

[mack]

In the last 3 years I always thought last year's team had the most talent of the bunch.  The team with Alexander and Watkins had better chemistry though.  While this year might be the weakest compared to the last few year I think this bunch has been more battle tested more than the previous 2 teams.   

Overall their schedule was tougher and the 7a field in the tourney was the best it's been in probably 5 or 6 years.   

Good points.  The main reasons I place the Watkins/Alexander year as the number one was the inside game and the Alexander matchup nightmare.  Of course, Allen was not a bad sophomore.

[ricepig]

I will say this, while this North Little Rock team is very good, I don't know if it is as good as the previous two incarnations were.

You are correct.  They're good but to rank the three years, the first year is 1, the second 2 and this year's 3.

I agree, the first group was less heralded, but a much better "team".

[Cabotred]

The winning team will be the one with the best supporting cast. MM and Allen  are going to do what they do put up 25 or more points.  How good the other team mates contribute will be difference in game. I am not sure about BV but NLR has 4 D1 players Allen, Moore, and Dunkum all have Bball offers, KJ has a football. Can BV stop all of them?  Does BV have anyone to minimize Dunkum around rim?  At 6'11" he can give teams problems with offensive rebounds and altering shots.  If Dunkum goes out they have a 6'9" guy with heck of body, prolly 230 lb.  Moore and KJ can go for 20 on any given night. 

I have not seen BV play this year so do not know much about them.  Please fill me in about the other BV players.......

So knowing what I know which aint much, I will give the edge to NLR.

[Razorback Red]

Bentonville is not a huge team; they go 6'9" and 6'5" with their bigs.  They also have a 6'3" defensive specialist that is tough as nails if he can stay out of foul trouble.  I think they have to be competitive on the boards, as they probably won't win that battle.  The Tigers play really smart and move the ball well.  They have a couple of really good outside shooters, if they can get open looks.  The key tho is MM.  When he's feeling his shot, it opens up the lane and Bville is tough to beat.  They rely on one player more than NLR does, but when he's on, he can light it up from anywhere and he gets to the line a lot. 

[Marblehog]

The winning team will be the one with the best supporting cast. MM and Allen  are going to do what they do put up 25 or more points.  How good the other team mates contribute will be difference in game. I am not sure about BV but NLR has 4 D1 players Allen, Moore, and Dunkum all have Bball offers, KJ has a football. Can BV stop all of them?  Does BV have anyone to minimize Dunkum around rim?  At 6'11" he can give teams problems with offensive rebounds and altering shots.  If Dunkum goes out they have a 6'9" guy with heck of body, prolly 230 lb.  Moore and KJ can go for 20 on any given night. 

I have not seen BV play this year so do not know much about them.  Please fill me in about the other BV players.......

So knowing what I know which aint much, I will give the edge to NLR.

dunkum lol are you serious?  no pressure with that name.  Heard he has ways to go

[NLR4Eva]

The winning team will be the one with the best supporting cast. MM and Allen  are going to do what they do put up 25 or more points.  How good the other team mates contribute will be difference in game. I am not sure about BV but NLR has 4 D1 players Allen, Moore, and Dunkum all have Bball offers, KJ has a football. Can BV stop all of them?  Does BV have anyone to minimize Dunkum around rim?  At 6'11" he can give teams problems with offensive rebounds and altering shots.  If Dunkum goes out they have a 6'9" guy with heck of body, prolly 230 lb.  Moore and KJ can go for 20 on any given night. 

I have not seen BV play this year so do not know much about them.  Please fill me in about the other BV players.......

So knowing what I know which aint much, I will give the edge to NLR.

dunkum lol are you serious?  no pressure with that name.  Heard he has ways to go

So in other words you haven't seen him play

[Marblehog]

The winning team will be the one with the best supporting cast. MM and Allen  are going to do what they do put up 25 or more points.  How good the other team mates contribute will be difference in game. I am not sure about BV but NLR has 4 D1 players Allen, Moore, and Dunkum all have Bball offers, KJ has a football. Can BV stop all of them?  Does BV have anyone to minimize Dunkum around rim?  At 6'11" he can give teams problems with offensive rebounds and altering shots.  If Dunkum goes out they have a 6'9" guy with heck of body, prolly 230 lb.  Moore and KJ can go for 20 on any given night. 

I have not seen BV play this year so do not know much about them.  Please fill me in about the other BV players.......

So knowing what I know which aint much, I will give the edge to NLR.

dunkum lol are you serious?  no pressure with that name.  Heard he has ways to go

So in other words you haven't seen him play

saw him last year at fort smith tournament.  Didn't step foot onto court until late.  He got broke on dunk attempt I recall.  Haven't seen him this year.

[Cabotred]

The winning team will be the one with the best supporting cast. MM and Allen  are going to do what they do put up 25 or more points.  How good the other team mates contribute will be difference in game. I am not sure about BV but NLR has 4 D1 players Allen, Moore, and Dunkum all have Bball offers, KJ has a football. Can BV stop all of them?  Does BV have anyone to minimize Dunkum around rim?  At 6'11" he can give teams problems with offensive rebounds and altering shots.  If Dunkum goes out they have a 6'9" guy with heck of body, prolly 230 lb.  Moore and KJ can go for 20 on any given night. 

I have not seen BV play this year so do not know much about them.  Please fill me in about the other BV players.......

So knowing what I know which aint much, I will give the edge to NLR.

dunkum lol are you serious?  no pressure with that name.  Heard he has ways to go

Yes big guys normally develope later than the smaller guys. So he does have a way to go. But I believe he could be difference maker in this game. 

I was asking about supporting cast.....

Not as athletic as other team mates but at 6'11", he does provide some match up problems, he does hold a D1 offer albeit to smaller school but an offer. That says something about  potential if nothing else.  If you noticed I said rebounds and shot altering. He is also a dump target when the other three drive lane and his defender moves to pick them up.  He will give BV problems on boards that is enough to tilt game NLR way. I asked does BV have anybody to match up with him? 

If he has good game NLR will win......

[jking7]

Bentonville has the best player in the state but NLR has much better depth. Bentonville will win if monk can get just a little bit of scoring out of his teammates. If monk is slowed NLR wins.

[Cabotred]

Bentonville has the best player in the state but NLR has much better depth. Bentonville will win if monk can get just a little but of scoring out of his teammates. If monk is slowed NLR wins.

From what you said slow MMor his teammates down and they lose. I stated above that this game comes down to the other players in court beside MM and Allen.  I believe NLR has talent to "slow" MM down therefore BV others players will need t step it up a notch.   And you stated depth goes to NLR, which I believe will decide the game.

[itsslim]

wILL THIS GAME SELL OUT? BANK OF OZARKS HOLDS 6,200.  JUST ABOUT EVERY GAME WAS SOLD OUT IN SPRINDALE HARBER WHEN MONK PLAYED, ALBEIT A MUCH SMALLER GYM.

[Cabotred]

wILL THIS GAME SELL OUT? BANK OF OZARKS HOLDS 6,200.  JUST ABOUT EVERY GAME WAS SOLD OUT IN SPRINDALE HARBER WHEN MONK PLAYED, ALBEIT A MUCH SMALLER GYM.

Yes,  NLR fan base along with proximity to LR and the Monk Factor will sell it out. Also the girls game right after it is very interesting with Danberry and Tolfree

[businesstron]

The winning team will be the one with the best supporting cast. MM and Allen  are going to do what they do put up 25 or more points.  How good the other team mates contribute will be difference in game. I am not sure about BV but NLR has 4 D1 players Allen, Moore, and Dunkum all have Bball offers, KJ has a football. Can BV stop all of them?  Does BV have anyone to minimize Dunkum around rim?  At 6'11" he can give teams problems with offensive rebounds and altering shots.  If Dunkum goes out they have a 6'9" guy with heck of body, prolly 230 lb.  Moore and KJ can go for 20 on any given night. 

I have not seen BV play this year so do not know much about them.  Please fill me in about the other BV players.......

So knowing what I know which aint much, I will give the edge to NLR.

dunkum lol are you serious?  no pressure with that name.  Heard he has ways to go

Yes big guys normally develope later than the smaller guys. So he does have a way to go. But I believe he could be difference maker in this game. 

I was asking about supporting cast.....

Not as athletic as other team mates but at 6'11", he does provide some match up problems, he does hold a D1 offer albeit to smaller school but an offer. That says something about  potential if nothing else.  If you noticed I said rebounds and shot altering. He is also a dump target when the other three drive lane and his defender moves to pick them up.  He will give BV problems on boards that is enough to tilt game NLR way. I asked does BV have anybody to match up with him? 

If he has good game NLR will win......

Bentonville will probably put their big man Ben Smith on him.  He's 6'9 I believe.  He might actually be a matchup problem though because he like to shoot 3s on the offensive side.  He's not much as far as defense goes though.   They also have another dude Tyler Robinson.  He's 6'4 or 6'5 he's probably the better rebounder.

[urban legend2]

The Robinson kid is a pretty good player.

[polksalet]

When is tipoff?

[urban legend2]

11 a.m.

[Fanofsports]

Are the games televised at all this year?

[TigerHawg]

So far I have only seen it will probably be here:
http://www.nfhsnetwork.com/explore/upcoming

[ricepig]

So far I have only seen it will probably be here:
http://www.nfhsnetwork.com/explore/upcoming

Correct

[AirWarren]

Way to go central Arkansas! Try again nwa!

[vtowneagles]

Monk will be the new Barkly meaning he will never be able to win the big one