Injured Player Protocol

[HeberFan]

Exactly. "Kneeling is a sign of respect"....unless it's done by that "Colin guy" (never mind the fact that it was military man who suggested Colin kneel), then it's disrespectful. Folks need to make up their minds.

Colin kneels, with his hand not over his heart, because it's the opposite of standing. It's a sign of protest, not respect. He might as well stand while giving the "double finger" to the flag. I support his right to do either, by the way. Just don't agree with either.

[SUGARTOWN]

When I see my woman CEO in the hallway....i'll be sure to remind her that there are people out there that think you need their assistance in "overcoming" in this world because she lacks a certain organ.

Nah, I'm sure she already knows everything I've been saying. Most women don't have their head buried in the sand.

[SUGARTOWN]

Colin kneels, with his hand not over his heart, because it's the opposite of standing. It's a sign of protest, not respect. He might as well stand while giving the "double finger" to the flag. I support his right to do either, by the way. Just don't agree with either.

Wrong again.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/05/nfl-49ers-colin-kaepernick-national-anthem-protest-nate-boyer

[AirWarren]

You're exactly right and it will never stop, I just happen to think that we as a society should try to be better and treat all people the same.


I realize however that this a radical "far left" concept.

I've had a great upbringing in this country.....been treated the same as everyone.....and I'm one of those minorities that you are "working hard" for in society. Thank you again for all you have done. Me and my setbacks wouldn't have made it without you and your left concepts.

[HeberFan]

Every player faces "discrimination and resistance" on every play of football. And I mean hard-hitting, physical discrimination. Not an unkind word. Get over it and get to work.

[AirWarren]

Nah, I'm sure she already knows everything I've been saying. Most women don't have their head buried in the sand.

As a minority, and I will include my wife in on this because "vibes" knows that without the help of the left, we wouldn't be here today with our careers paved specifically for us by the caring liberals.....thank you very much for keeping our head out of the sand and enlightened to this harsh society.

[cuckoobird]

I agree it should stop but I didn't accuse racism misogyny and sexism to one group out of left field. I gave examples of how a group is discriminated against but never claimed it didn't happen to other groups.

[$aintMaximu$]

You're exactly right and it will never stop, I just happen to think that we as a society should try to be better and treat all people the same.


I realize however that this a radical "far left" concept.

Right, middle or left... I don't think anybody disagrees that we should try to be better and treat people the same.  There is abuse on all sides...

[SUGARTOWN]

I've had a great upbringing in this country.....been treated the same as everyone.....and I'm one of those minorities that you are "working hard" for in society. Thank you again for all you have done. Me and my setbacks wouldn't have made it without you and your left concepts.

You're right. That liberal backed Civil Rights Bill of 1964 paved the way for moving our country forward.

[$aintMaximu$]

You're right. That liberal backed Civil Rights Bill of 1964 paved the way for moving our country forward.

Sugartown how about you take that extra 20% of white male privileged income and mail it to AW each week... 

[SUGARTOWN]

Sugartown how about you take that extra 20% of white male privileged income and mail it to AW each week... 

I'm just trying to help out the young man. 

[AirWarren]

Sugartown how about you take that extra 20% of white male privileged income and mail it to AW each week... 

I am a minority....I need him, his voice and his help....so does my low income woman wife. Praise Vibes for stand up caring people like Sugar. We would be in some section 8 below his chenal/Cantrell estate if it wasn't for him. 

[HeberFan]

You're right. That liberal backed Civil Rights Bill of 1964 paved the way for moving our country forward.

Your facts are a bit off. Here are percentages, by party, voting FOR the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

HOUSE -- 72% of Democrats and  82% of Republicans.

SENATE -- 69% of Democrats and 82% of Republicans.

Democrats had enough seats to pass the bill with no Republican support, but certainly did not. It was a bipartisan passage.

[HeberFan]

Wrong again.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/05/nfl-49ers-colin-kaepernick-national-anthem-protest-nate-boyer

The article explicity calls kneeling "a new form on protest."

Please at least read the articles you submit as evidence.

[SUGARTOWN]

The article explicity calls kneeling "a new form on protest."

Please at least read the articles you submit as evidence.

You said it wasn't a sign of respect. Perhaps you should reread the article.


"I expressed to him, maybe there's a different way of demonstrating, where you're showing more respect for those who laid down their lives for what that flag and anthem stand for," Boyer said of his conversation with Kaepernick. "I suggested kneeling, because people kneel to pray; we'll kneel in front of a fallen brother's grave."

[SUGARTOWN]

Your facts are a bit off. Here are percentages, by party, voting FOR the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

HOUSE -- 72% of Democrats and  82% of Republicans.

SENATE -- 69% of Democrats and 82% of Republicans.

Democrats had enough seats to pass the bill with no Republican support, but certainly did not. It was a bipartisan passage.

I never said anything about party. I said "liberal backed" which it most certainly was.

[HeberFan]

You said it wasn't a sign of respect. Perhaps you should reread the article.


"I expressed to him, maybe there's a different way of demonstrating, where you're showing more respect for those who laid down their lives for what that flag and anthem stand for," Boyer said of his conversation with Kaepernick. "I suggested kneeling, because people kneel to pray; we'll kneel in front of a fallen brother's grave."

So, it seems, the best position is that it's meant as a sign of protest and respect.

[$aintMaximu$]

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Watch this-



Don't judge it out of the gate...  I'll give a disclaimer on the language,  if the F word and N word offend, don't watch... 

Give me your thougths...

[cuckoobird]

A certain motion or act itself does not represent respect. I don't care if he kneels because he has that right it's just in my opinion there are a lot better ways to help a situation. It's hard to believe his intent when he wears a shirt that represents suppression which is the opposite of his protests.

[beach bum]

A certain motion or act itself does not represent respect. I don't care if he kneels because he has that right it's just in my opinion there are a lot better ways to help a situation. It's hard to believe his intent when he wears a shirt that represents suppression which is the opposite of his protests.

I can definitely respect all that you said here. I never understood why people got so angry on both sides instead of agreeing to respectfully disagree like you just described. As you said, its his right even though someone may agree or disagree. I would rather have the 1st amendment in the back pocket any day for any citizen even if it means someone may or may not be doing the right thing on either side as long as you aren't infringing on someone else's safety or well being in the process.

[SUGARTOWN]

A certain motion or act itself does not represent respect. I don't care if he kneels because he has that right it's just in my opinion there are a lot better ways to help a situation. It's hard to believe his intent when he wears a shirt that represents suppression which is the opposite of his protests.

Well, he has donated over $1 million of his own money to social justice charities so I think his intent is to help what he sees as a big problem.

[AirWarren]

A certain motion or act itself does not represent respect. I don't care if he kneels because he has that right it's just in my opinion there are a lot better ways to help a situation. It's hard to believe his intent when he wears a shirt that represents suppression which is the opposite of his protests.

Nothing better when an oppressed millionaire who was taken in by an evil white family protests against the people that love him, the country that gave him the opportunities he has.

If he wants to be hacked at someone he needs to be hacked at his "mom and dad" for leaving him high and dry. Which I believe are the root of his issues. Needing that "acceptance" in his life based off POS bio parents.  Not the people in the line of duty everyday.

The cat has issues beyond kneeling for the anthem.

[beach bum]

Your facts are a bit off. Here are percentages, by party, voting FOR the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

HOUSE -- 72% of Democrats and  82% of Republicans.

SENATE -- 69% of Democrats and 82% of Republicans.

Democrats had enough seats to pass the bill with no Republican support, but certainly did not. It was a bipartisan passage.

The parties have totally changed since they 60's.... Any basic course on government will teach you that so I am not even sure what point you are trying to make and how that has any relevancy in today's world of moving forward on civil and social political issues. I hope you still don't think we have the Whig Party and Millard Fillmore is still alive too?

[cuckoobird]

He is out of work and the country needs officers. Perhaps it would be more productive to join the fight where he could really change interactions between the police and citizens.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna734721

[HeberFan]

Think you were saying "the liberals" passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. In fact, both parties did. Perhaps you were saying there used to be liberals in both parties ?

[AirWarren]

He is out of work and the country needs officers. Perhaps it would be more productive to join the fight where he could really change interactions between the police and citizens.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna734721

LOL. Please.

[SUGARTOWN]

Who's out of work? Kap has a million dollar deal with Nike to be a spokesman and have his own line of apparel.

[HeberFan]

Who's out of work? Kap has a million dollar deal with Nike to be a spokesman and have his own line of apparel.

Agreed. He pays somebody do put in those braids, then, fluff out that 'fro !

[Romeo]

This thread is just another reminder why I enjoy team sports. The one thing that can bring conservatives and liberals together, particularly in Arkansas, is Razorback athletics.

[HeberFan]

This thread is just another reminder why I enjoy team sports. The one thing that can bring conservatives and liberals together, particularly in Arkansas, is Razorback athletics.

Yeah, that !

[Jimbo Morphis]

This thread is just another reminder why I enjoy team sports. The one thing that can bring conservatives and liberals together, particularly in Arkansas, is Razorback athletics.

Yep and I love Hogville. AW can't go there anymore.

[HeberFan]

Livin' on Tulsa Time !

[$aintMaximu$]

Livin' on Tulsa Time !

So do we beat Tulsa?

[cuckoobird]

Sure he's getting paid but can you agree that by joining the force he could make much more changes?

[HeberFan]

So do we beat Tulsa?

Don't love our chances with Tugboat taking snaps.

[Romeo]

This is also the truest statement when it comes to social issues and sports: there's no other place in America where black lives matter more than a football field.

[HeberFan]

This is also the truest statement when it comes to social issues and sports: there's no other place in America where black lives matter more than a football field.

Not true. That would be an NBA court.

[SUGARTOWN]

Sure he's getting paid but can you agree that by joining the force he could make much more changes?

I'm not sure one person could make a difference on a systemic problem. Using his celebrity to raise awareness may be more a help.

[$aintMaximu$]

Don't love our chances with Tugboat taking snaps.

Agree, why are we holding out on the Greenwood QB?  Are we trying to maintain his red shirt status?

[HeberFan]

Agree, why are we holding out on the Greenwood QB?  Are we trying to maintain his red shirt status?

Yeah, no need to waste him on a 3-win season.

[$aintMaximu$]

Yeah, no need to waste him on a 3-win season.

But I think he is allowed 4 games right?

[Romeo]

Not true. That would be an NBA court.

How many NBA fans have you seen defend an athlete accused of rape (Jameis Winston), or knocking a woman unconscious at a bar (Joe Mixon) or beat his pregnant girlfriend (Tyreek Hill). One thing I've learned over the years, if you're a Heisman Trophy candidate or can run a 4.3 40, a fanbase, conservative and liberal, will defend you till the end of time. 

[cuckoobird]

I don't think it's a systemic problem. When you look at police shootings as a whole it shows something different than what most people claim but just like everything else in the world, of course their are bad apples but he could truly make a difference by becoming one of the officers interacting on a daily basis

[HeberFan]

How many NBA fans have you seen defend an athlete accused of rape (Jameis Winston), or knocking a woman unconscious at a bar (Joe Mixon) or beat his pregnant girlfriend (Tyreek Hill). One thing I've learned over the years, if you're a Heisman Trophy candidate or can run a 4.3 40, a fanbase, conservative and liberal, will defend you till the end of time.

I was just saying if you took "black lives" out of the NBA, you could only field two teams.

[HeberFan]

I don't think it's a systemic problem. When you look at police shootings as a whole it shows something different than what most people claim but just like everything else in the world, of course their are bad apples but he could truly make a difference by becoming one of the officers interacting on a daily basis

Now you're going to put facts and truth in the debate?   )

[Romeo]

I don't think it's a systemic problem. When you look at police shootings as a whole it shows something different than what most people claim but just like everything else in the world, of course their are bad apples but he could truly make a difference by becoming one of the officers interacting on a daily basis

The one thing I can admit is that there is a false narrative when it comes to police shootings among minorities, particularly blacks. Statistically, more white people are killed by cops than any demographic. While I believe there are shootings that were unjustified, the argument that cops are primarily targeting and killing blacks is false. The fact is any officer related shooting involving a black person will always get the most media attention and that what helps fuel the false narrative.

[HeberFan]

The one thing I can admit is that there is a false narrative when it comes to police shootings among minorities, particularly blacks. Statistically, more white people are killed by cops than any demographic. While I believe there are shootings that were unjustified, the argument that cops are primarily targeting and killing blacks is false. The fact is any officer related shooting involving a black person will always get the most media attention and that what helps fuel the false narrative.

Romeo's statement is impirically true.

[cuckoobird]

Exactly

[AirWarren]

The one thing I can admit is that there is a false narrative when it comes to police shootings among minorities, particularly blacks. Statistically, more white people are killed by cops than any demographic. While I believe there are shootings that were unjustified, the argument that cops are primarily targeting and killing blacks is false. The fact is any officer related shooting involving a black person will always get the most media attention and that what helps fuel the false narrative.

Justified vs unjustified. Sure. I'll give you that. Great post.

The systemic problem argument is garbage. Weak minded people let the Arkansas times and "clever" internet searches guide their thought and principles.

I drop my kid off at school and there are always police helping with traffic. I see kids of all races....including minorities giving the cop high fives, laughing with the cops. The cops usually slip them a sucker as the walk off. The kids love it and the cops know the kids by name. And this isn't a private school....GASP!!!!!. I see this everywhere around central Arkansas.

But because some snot nosed "celebrity" has convinced some that there is a systemic problem out there with white cops picking off blacks is hot garbage. Where is his outrage with the city of Chicago? Little Rock? Memphis? Pine bluff? Englewood? Newark? That kind of agenda is not filling his pocket book that's why.

If you look at yahoo, you would think there were riots and protests in the street every day all over the USA. I don't see a DANG thing going on and I'm sure that that's what is happening in 95% of this great county. Discord.....lefties love it.

[HeberFan]

Great point. Black-on-black violence is much more prevalent than police-on-black violence.

Why is the lesser amount of violence worthy of protests, while, the greater amount is not? Perhaps young Colin could wear some socks that insult his own race?