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Title: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: CabotAlum on June 20, 2018, 10:15:19 am
http://www.cabotschools.org/news/1915/2018-to-be-coach-mike-malhams-final-season-as-cabot-panthers-head-football-coach


I guess the Dead T might actually be dead this time next year.   :o
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: beaverfan007 on June 20, 2018, 12:34:34 pm
This will be a hot job
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: x14113 on June 20, 2018, 01:45:56 pm
Where Cabot goes from here will depend on how much the admin values continuity.

If they want to keep the Dead-T going, I can think of a coach 71 miles away that they will want to go after.

Otherwise...they'll need someone with a good track record on turnarounds, because it will become a total restructure at that point.

Then again, word on the street is that a form of shotgun spread that's friendly to old-school running schemes is becoming trendy. Perhaps the Panthers can take advantage of that?
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on June 21, 2018, 08:14:06 am
He will be missed for sure.He is a great coach
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: thebigshot on June 21, 2018, 01:15:27 pm
Whoever they hire hopefully they will run a spread offense.

Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Air Raider on June 21, 2018, 02:49:07 pm
The dead T died a long time ago. Heck Malham stuck with it and didn't even use the full suite of plays.

Glad to see him finally do the right thing for the school and get out of the way. He has held this program back long enough.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Hogman2018 on June 21, 2018, 04:19:44 pm
My pick for this job is Scott Reed from Eldorado!! I think he would leave for this job! Who does everyone else pick to get this job?
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Made on June 21, 2018, 05:34:02 pm
Someone from out of state
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Air Raider on June 21, 2018, 05:47:18 pm
Scott Reed is a fantastic coach he would do well here. Maybe a good opportunity for Kevin Kelly to see if he is really 'that good' taking on 7A at a public school?  And just for the record, I think he is 'that good'.
Cabot has a huge pool of kids to draw from. It will take a few years to get a cycle going,  but Cabot is a sleeping giant for a coach that isn't stuck in the 50's. 5-10 years from now all the folks in the central office that have so faithfully stuck by a decades outdated system, will be asking why this change didn't happen sooner.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: cabotpantherman on June 21, 2018, 05:58:39 pm
Been told by a reliable source Bo Hembree is interested.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: francocat on June 22, 2018, 12:00:59 pm
Mark it down: Eldridge will apply.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: STBruin on June 22, 2018, 12:59:34 pm
Agree with the thought about Kelley and his chance to shut up all of his critics! Plus, the simple irony of it being Cabot! Malham was a great coach, but the game passed him by. Think a modern offense at Cabot, with the facilities and numbers they have, they have the potential to be a FORCE in the 7A!!!
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: AirWarren on June 22, 2018, 01:59:28 pm
Quote from: cabotpantherman on June 21, 2018, 05:58:39 pm
Been told by a reliable source Bo Hembree is interested.

17 years running....
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: PigskinPete on June 22, 2018, 02:31:37 pm
Bo Hembree is used to having the best athletes week after week.  That doesn't happen at Cabot.

Congratulations to Mike Malham on a Hall of Fame career.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: cabotpantherman on June 22, 2018, 03:39:52 pm
Pigskin I agree with you. Was told couple years ago once the Cabot job comes open he would be interested. My opinion he should stay in Warren.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: rammer on June 25, 2018, 09:35:43 am
I would love to see Scott Reed as the next head coach for Cabot.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Air Raider on June 30, 2018, 04:43:33 pm
Quote from: PigskinPete on June 22, 2018, 02:31:37 pm
Bo Hembree is used to having the best athletes week after week.  That doesn't happen at Cabot.

Congratulations to Mike Malham on a Hall of Fame career.

A lack of athletes isn't a problem in Cabot. With the number of students we have, the athletes are here. The problem the last 10 years, was the lack of a coach that knew how to use them in modern day football. That coupled with just the lack of desire to change and stubbornness to prove he didn't have to, along with an administration and a community that year after year has been satisfied with a winning season and just making it to the playoffs.

Having great athletes can certainly be an advantage  but NLR is a great example of a school that year after year has great athletes, and often times never reaches potential.  What Cabot has is the potential for huge numbers on the sidelines giving depth and fresh legs for 4 quarters along with kids that are extremely smart, athletic enough, and very coachable. You put a coach like Kevin Kelly or Scott Reed into that that situation and a sleeping giant will awaken.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: AirWarren on June 30, 2018, 07:26:20 pm
Quote from: Air Raider on June 30, 2018, 04:43:33 pm
A lack of athletes isn't a problem in Cabot. With the number of students we have, the athletes are here. The problem the last 10 years, was the lack of a coach that knew how to use them in modern day football. That coupled with just the lack of desire to change and stubbornness to prove he didn't have to, along with an administration and a community that year after year has been satisfied with a winning season and just making it to the playoffs.

Having great athletes can certainly be an advantage  but NLR is a great example of a school that year after year has great athletes, and often times never reaches potential.  What Cabot has is the potential for huge numbers on the sidelines giving depth and fresh legs for 4 quarters along with kids that are extremely smart, athletic enough, and very coachable. You put a coach like Kevin Kelly or Scott Reed into that that situation and a sleeping giant will awaken.

If the size and speed was there with "those numbers on the sideline" it would show up on the field no matter who is coaching.

I'll believe it at Cabot when I see it.

Rogers High has the numbers. So does Rogers heritage. Catholic high? Where is their domination?
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Razorback Red on July 03, 2018, 04:33:54 pm
Quote from: Air Raider on June 30, 2018, 04:43:33 pm
A lack of athletes isn't a problem in Cabot. With the number of students we have, the athletes are here. The problem the last 10 years, was the lack of a coach that knew how to use them in modern day football. That coupled with just the lack of desire to change and stubbornness to prove he didn't have to, along with an administration and a community that year after year has been satisfied with a winning season and just making it to the playoffs.

Having great athletes can certainly be an advantage  but NLR is a great example of a school that year after year has great athletes, and often times never reaches potential.  What Cabot has is the potential for huge numbers on the sidelines giving depth and fresh legs for 4 quarters along with kids that are extremely smart, athletic enough, and very coachable. You put a coach like Kevin Kelly or Scott Reed into that that situation and a sleeping giant will awaken.

Great take, Air Raider.  Coach MM had a great run and a HOF career, but the Cabot admin should have forced his retirement from at least HC several years back.  One dimensional teams just cannot compete with the other elite 7A programs.  I am convinced the athletes are walking the halls and prob already on the team.  If they get the right HC, watch out.  Cabot should compete for at least the semi's every year. 
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: gameoflife on July 03, 2018, 05:02:11 pm
Again the spread supporters come out to criticize a successful style of offense.  Looking at his bio, seems he had a very good record with not only two titles but also several runner ups and semi final appearances and some of those in the recent past.  Tells me the Dead T wasn't dead at all.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: PigskinPete on July 03, 2018, 05:33:47 pm
Quote from: gameoflife on July 03, 2018, 05:02:11 pm
Again the spread supporters come out to criticize a successful style of offense.  Looking at his bio, seems he had a very good record with not only two titles but also several runner ups and semi final appearances and some of those in the recent past.  Tells me the Dead T wasn't dead at all.
Malham's offenses regularly moved the ball and scored lots of points. When his teams had problems (not often), it was usually due to lack of speed on defense.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Razorback Red on July 03, 2018, 05:58:28 pm
Quote from: gameoflife on July 03, 2018, 05:02:11 pm
Again the spread supporters come out to criticize a successful style of offense.  Looking at his bio, seems he had a very good record with not only two titles but also several runner ups and semi final appearances and some of those in the recent past.  Tells me the Dead T wasn't dead at all.

I haven't seen anyone criticizing his bio, no question a HOF career.  Just not relevant year in and year out over the past 10 years.  Yes, he can win games with that style in 2018, but not against elite teams.  Cabot gets 4-5 wins a year against bad conf teams and their OOC schedule.  Still have to beat the top-tier teams in the playoffs and that hasn't happened much of late. 
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: AirWarren on July 03, 2018, 08:31:39 pm
Quote from: PigskinPete on July 03, 2018, 05:33:47 pm
Malham's offenses regularly moved the ball and scored lots of points. When his teams had problems (not often), it was usually due to lack of speed on defense.

And speed is going to magically show up from the halls and under a new coach?

Call me blind, but I'll have to believe it to see it.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on July 03, 2018, 10:25:28 pm
Quote from: Razorback Red on July 03, 2018, 04:33:54 pm
Great take, Air Raider.  Coach MM had a great run and a HOF career, but the Cabot admin should have forced his retirement from at least HC several years back.  One dimensional teams just cannot compete with the other elite 7A programs.  I am convinced the athletes are walking the halls and prob already on the team.  If they get the right HC, watch out.  Cabot should compete for at least the semi's every year.
Cabot doesn't have the speed to run the spread Malham ran what was best for Cabot's athletes sorry
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: PA Dad on July 03, 2018, 10:31:06 pm
Cabot has the athletes and the community support to contend every year.  If they get the right coach, they will be tough to beat.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: gameoflife on July 04, 2018, 05:10:57 pm
Not relevant?  He was the state runner-up in 2013. Was in the quarters in 2016 and 2017?
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: gameoflife on July 04, 2018, 05:12:11 pm
Quote from: PA Dad on July 03, 2018, 10:31:06 pm
Cabot has the athletes and the community support to contend every year.  If they get the right coach, they will be tough to beat.

Maybe they can pay KK enough to get him to try the 7A public school waters?
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Razorback Red on July 05, 2018, 01:50:07 pm
Quote from: gameoflife on July 04, 2018, 05:10:57 pm
Not relevant?  He was the state runner-up in 2013. Was in the quarters in 2016 and 2017?

Getting to the quarters is not much of a feat the way our 7A/6A brackets are set up.  The teams with byes are already in the quarters and the other teams have to beat a team that shoudn't really be in the playoffs. 

Now if we could just combine the top 32 into 6A, the playoffs would be much more competitive. 
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: gameoflife on July 05, 2018, 02:42:06 pm
Quote from: Razorback Red on July 05, 2018, 01:50:07 pm
Getting to the quarters is not much of a feat the way our 7A/6A brackets are set up.  The teams with byes are already in the quarters and the other teams have to beat a team that shoudn't really be in the playoffs. 

Now if we could just combine the top 32 into 6A, the playoffs would be much more competitive. 

That much I will agree with you on whole-heartedly.  The 7A and 6A playoffs certainly contain some teams that couldn't make it in the old 32 team formats.  Of course the state has so few truly large schools it's hard to claim parady between schools with 2,000 and those with half that.  Maybe the AAA should handicap  schools.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Wildcat_Booster on July 05, 2018, 10:16:38 pm
Quote from: thebigshot on June 21, 2018, 01:15:27 pm
Whoever they hire hopefully they will run a spread offense.

I wonder if El Dorado Scheduling Cabot the last couple years plays into Reed leaving? getting acquainted with the Administrators there?
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: cabotpantherman on July 06, 2018, 09:49:30 am
Not a chance. I think Reed's age will play a factor in him not getting the job. I personally believe they will go younger.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: thebigshot on July 08, 2018, 08:02:04 am
Quote from: cabotpantherman on July 06, 2018, 09:49:30 am
Not a chance. I think Reed's age will play a factor in him not getting the job. I personally believe they will go younger.

Reed has more championships than Malham. Don't get me wrong, if Cabot has the change to get Reed they need to go after him. Age is only a number.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: purpleswag on July 08, 2018, 08:32:56 am
Quote from: Wildcat_Booster on July 05, 2018, 10:16:38 pm
I wonder if El Dorado Scheduling Cabot the last couple years plays into Reed leaving? getting acquainted with the Administrators there?

Y'all do realize that there are a ton of spread teams that get destroyed every week don't you?
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Rob Van Winkle on July 08, 2018, 11:51:07 am
Will Cabot allow the new coach to bring his own staff with him? If so that will open the door for the top tier coaches.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: purpleswag on July 08, 2018, 12:38:59 pm
Quote from: Rob Van Winkle on July 08, 2018, 11:51:07 am
Will Cabot allow the new coach to bring his own staff with him? If so that will open the door for the top tier coaches.

So Malham retires and everyone loses their job?
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Rob Van Winkle on July 08, 2018, 01:12:30 pm
Quote from: purpleswag on July 08, 2018, 12:38:59 pm
So Malham retires and everyone loses their job?
Most established HC's will not take another HC position unless they have the ability to bring on who they want. Especially year one most will bring in their own OC and DC and then bring others on the following years. Once again this is for an established HC who wins. This helps them establish their culture much quicker, and I think this will be very important when replacing an icon like Coach Malham.

If they go with a first time HC then the district will more than likely not have to give as many concessions.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: STBruin on July 08, 2018, 03:15:43 pm
Quote from: gameoflife on July 04, 2018, 05:12:11 pm
Maybe they can pay KK enough to get him to try the 7A public school waters?

Think Cabot and KK would be a perfect fit...and he would give the 7A fits.....
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on July 08, 2018, 05:17:24 pm
Quote from: purpleswag on July 08, 2018, 08:32:56 am
Y'all do realize that there are a ton of spread teams that get destroyed every week don't you?
Right you have to have some speed and athletes to run the spread or it doesn't work
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: AirWarren on July 08, 2018, 10:57:58 pm
Quote from: purpleswag on July 08, 2018, 08:32:56 am
Y'all do realize that there are a ton of spread teams that get destroyed every week don't you?

But but but not the speed and talent is in the halls!
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Jimbo Morphis on July 09, 2018, 06:52:26 am
Quote from: Lumberjackfan1978 on July 08, 2018, 05:17:24 pm
Right you have to have some speed and athletes to run the spread or it doesn't work
Not just the spread.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on July 09, 2018, 07:51:20 pm
Quote from: Oldman on July 09, 2018, 06:52:26 am
Not just the spread.
Oh you are right there to oldman
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: purpleswag on July 10, 2018, 01:22:10 pm
Quote from: Oldman on July 09, 2018, 06:52:26 am
Not just the spread.

No other offense is regarded as the "reason we aren't winning."
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Jimbo Morphis on July 10, 2018, 01:37:23 pm
Quote from: purpleswag on July 10, 2018, 01:22:10 pm
No other offense is regarded as the “reason we aren’t winning.”
Quote from: purpleswag on July 10, 2018, 01:22:10 pm
No other offense is regarded as the “reason we aren’t winning.”
true
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: gameoflife on July 12, 2018, 02:41:10 pm
Quote from: cabotpantherman on July 06, 2018, 09:49:30 am
Not a chance. I think Reed's age will play a factor in him not getting the job. I personally believe they will go younger.

Just curious, how many young coaches are getting beaten on Friday night?
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: cabotpantherman on July 12, 2018, 03:11:42 pm
I think Scott Reed is an excellent coach. I would love to see him in Cabot. I do think the new athletic director (1 year on the job) will go after someone younger than 50.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: gameoflife on July 12, 2018, 03:27:22 pm
Quote from: cabotpantherman on July 12, 2018, 03:11:42 pm
I think Scott Reed is an excellent coach. I would love to see him in Cabot. I do think the new athletic director (1 year on the job) will go after someone younger than 50.

Why?  At 50 Reed would have perhaps 15-16 years in the game before he considered retirement.  With Malham as an exception, I wonder how many coaches last even half that long at a school.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Pat Swilling on July 12, 2018, 04:49:17 pm
The age factor is not a factor. Look at the most successful coaches in the state. All 50 or older.  Reed,  bolding,  dawson,  rick jones. Buck james. Carpenter. B lunny SR. Yes I know last 2 are retired. Hembree. King. Toddy. Elmore. Dave king. Now barry norton. Etc...
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: gameoflife on July 13, 2018, 10:57:27 am
Quote from: Pat Swilling on July 12, 2018, 04:49:17 pm
The age factor is not a factor. Look at the most successful coaches in the state. All 50 or older.  Reed,  bolding,  dawson,  rick jones. Buck james. Carpenter. B lunny SR. Yes I know last 2 are retired. Hembree. King. Toddy. Elmore. Dave king. Now barry norton. Etc...

I think they call that "experience". 
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Cabotfan on July 18, 2018, 01:20:10 pm
Quote from: gameoflife on July 12, 2018, 03:27:22 pm
Why?  At 50 Reed would have perhaps 15-16 years in the game before he considered retirement.  With Malham as an exception, I wonder how many coaches last even half that long at a school.

Coach Reed is 57. I don't think the AD will want to hire another football coach in 5-6 years?
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: gameoflife on July 18, 2018, 07:34:23 pm
Quote from: Cabotfan on July 18, 2018, 01:20:10 pm
Coach Reed is 57. I don't think the AD will want to hire another football coach in 5-6 years?

What makes you think he will retire before he hits 65-66 or more? I bet the average stay of coaches in Arkansas isn't close to 10 years.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Cabotfan on July 19, 2018, 12:58:59 pm
Quote from: gameoflife on July 18, 2018, 07:34:23 pm
What makes you think he will retire before he hits 65-66 or more? I bet the average stay of coaches in Arkansas isn't close to 10 years.

I figured Malham made it to 64, after 40 years I think most coaches will think that is enough. I don't care about the average stay, Malham was there for 37 so I don't consider it average.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: footballfan-tastic on July 19, 2018, 05:26:14 pm
I bet somebody on here has the ages for the oldest coaches still in the game or maybe how old the retirees that are the most successful coaches are.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: rammer on July 20, 2018, 09:40:09 am
Scott Reed is about the same age Nick Saban was when Alabama hired him. I am sure the Bama folks are glad they didn't consider him too near retirement.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Cabotfan on July 20, 2018, 01:08:04 pm
Well there you go. Cabot can just pay Reed $10 million a year and he can coach until he's 80.  ;)
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Walter on July 20, 2018, 10:44:22 pm
Quote from: Cabotfan on July 20, 2018, 01:08:04 pm
Well there you go. Cabot can just pay Reed $10 million a year and he can coach until he's 80.  ;)

I'm glad I don't pay taxes in Cabot!!! LOL
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Cabotfan on July 25, 2018, 12:54:40 pm
Quote from: SardisHog on July 20, 2018, 10:44:22 pm
I'm glad I don't pay taxes in Cabot!!! LOL

TBP
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: eyeproblem on July 25, 2018, 09:28:05 pm
Coach Mike Malham has done a great job at Cabot and remains a great football coach. He's one of the best in Arkansas high school football history because he is a teacher at heart and is a man of integrity. Mike has come very close to matching his father's coaching legacy, and his father was really and truly great.
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Air Raider on July 30, 2018, 03:50:52 pm
Quote from: PigskinPete on July 03, 2018, 05:33:47 pm
Malham's offenses regularly moved the ball and scored lots of points. When his teams had problems (not often), it was usually due to lack of speed on defense.

Scored lots of points?  That's funny.  They average 8 minutes per possession on a scoring drive.  You know what's even funnier?  If we are down by two touchdowns at the beginning of the 4th quarter, folks we start leaving.  They know the chances of pulling out a win is slim....
Title: Re: Arkansas Coaching Legend to retire
Post by: Air Raider on July 30, 2018, 04:03:16 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on July 03, 2018, 08:31:39 pm
And speed is going to magically show up from the halls and under a new coach?

Call me blind, but I'll have to believe it to see it.

You would be surprised at the kids walking the halls year in and out, that just don't have a desire to play for the current staff, for lots of reasons. We live in a different world than we did 40 years ago.  Kids have a lot of options to consume their time, some good, yes some bad.

You would be amazed at the speed walking the halls, kids that would love to play receiver, but they do to a school that doesn't have a position for receivers. You'd be amazed at some of the kids walking the halls that would make a massive offensive line but don't have the desire (or body type) to run twenty 200 yard dashes a day all year long.  Who do lineman every need to run a 200 yard dash a full speed?

We've got what, 3000 kids in high school?  Just simple statistics will almost guarantee some "speed" and an "athlete" year in and out.

Lots of folks think you have to have "speed and athletes" to run the "spread" (that's a very wide term with regards to offenses) but it's simply not true.  I'll take a bunch of average athletes with a lot of intelligence any day.  Kids that can understand defenses, and make adjustments on the fly.  Very few teams are going to have 4 or 5 top "athletes' at wide receiver and there are a lot of schools out there (in our conference) that have more athletes than several schools put together but they don't dominate anyone.  But you put 5 kids at wide out that know how to "get open" (not because they just outrun someone but because they are taught well enough) along with a QB that can just get the ball to them, and you're going to give your opponents fits. 

If you have one good "top athlete" where do you want him?  At FB taking 40 carries a came into a massive pile,  or outside where it's a one on one game?