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[MDXPHD]

Somebody may double check this, but I think its correct.

In the playoffs, since 05, PA has either lost to the eventual champion or won the championship, other than 2012 (before you PA fans get all whiny, I am not bringing this up to bring up the 2012 game).  This is remarkable and proves everything for the PA program.  I didn't realize how dominant they have been.

[PA Dad]

I haven't researched it, but that sounds right.

But, Batesville and Wynne both have impressive histories too.

[Red Devil Alum]

I haven't researched it, but that sounds right.

But, Batesville and Wynne both have impressive histories too.

PA hasn't lost a conference game since 2009 I believe.

[Coach DePriest, Sheridan]

You are correct.  And that is an interesting point.  Here are the specifics:

Kevin Kelley took over as head coach in 2003 ---

2003 - State Championship
2004 - Lost to Dollarway in Quarterfinals - State Runner-up (PA beat state champion CAC in regular season)
2005 - Lost to Nashville in Semis - State Champion
2006 - Lost to Greenwood in Finals - State Champion (Obviously)
2007 - Lost to Greenwood in Quarterfinals - State Champion
2008 - State Championship
2009 - Lost to Monticello in Semis - State Champion
2010 - Lost to Shiloh in Finals - State Champion (Obviously)
2011 - State Championship
2012 - Lost to Batesville in Semis - State Runner-up
2013 - Lost to Morrilton in Quarterfinals - State Champion
2014 - Will either be State Champion or will lose to State Champion

Senior PA Quarterbacks that are in at least their 2nd year of starting are the only ones (and have always) made the state championship and are 3-1 with that to change to 3-2 or 4-1 on Saturday. 
2003 - Sr QB Adam Thrash (2nd year starter)
2006 - Sr QB Stefan Loucks (3rd year starter)
2008 - Sr QB Spencer Keith (2nd year starter)
2011 - Sr QB Fredi Knighten (2nd year starter)
2014 - Sr QB Will Hefley (2nd year starter)

The only time they have made the state championship without a senior QB is 2010 when the Fredi Knighten led Bruins lost to the Kiehl Frazier led Shiloh Christian Saints.

[Coach DePriest, Sheridan]

I haven't researched it, but that sounds right.

But, Batesville and Wynne both have impressive histories too.

PA hasn't lost a conference game since 2009 I believe.

A very embarrassing one at that.  Lost to LR Christian and Michael Dyer on an ESPNU televised game.

[MDXPHD]

You are correct.  And that is an interesting point.  Here are the specifics:

Kevin Kelley took over as head coach in 2003 ---

2003 - State Championship
2004 - Lost to Dollarway in Quarterfinals - State Runner-up (PA beat state champion CAC in regular season)
2005 - Lost to Nashville in Semis - State Champion
2006 - Lost to Greenwood in Finals - State Champion (Obviously)
2007 - Lost to Greenwood in Quarterfinals - State Champion
2008 - State Championship
2009 - Lost to Monticello in Semis - State Champion
2010 - Lost to Shiloh in Finals - State Champion (Obviously)
2011 - State Championship
2012 - Lost to Batesville in Semis - State Runner-up
2013 - Lost to Morrilton in Quarterfinals - State Champion
2014 - Will either be State Champion or will lose to State Champion

Senior PA Quarterbacks that are in at least their 2nd year of starting are the only ones (and have always) made the state championship and are 3-1 with that to change to 3-2 or 4-1 on Saturday. 
2003 - Sr QB Adam Thrash (2nd year starter)
2006 - Sr QB Stefan Loucks (3rd year starter)
2008 - Sr QB Spencer Keith (2nd year starter)
2011 - Sr QB Fredi Knighten (2nd year starter)
2014 - Sr QB Will Hefley (2nd year starter)

The only time they have made the state championship without a senior QB is 2010 when the Fredi Knighten led Bruins lost to the Kiehl Frazier led Shiloh Christian Saints.

Thanks for all of that information.  That is an impressive resume.  Can you let me know where the quarterbacks went?

Thrash- Bama maybe?
Loucks- Texas Tech
Keith- Kent State
Knighten- ASU
Hefley- Tulsa

[spongebob]

I haven't researched it, but that sounds right.

But, Batesville and Wynne both have impressive histories too.

Just curious if Batesville and Wynne are allowed to recruit their surrounding areas also?

[Maynard G Krebs]

I haven't researched it, but that sounds right.

But, Batesville and Wynne both have impressive histories too.

Just curious if Batesville and Wynne are allowed to recruit their surrounding areas also?

Now the BS starts.  FYI, Thrash (his mother was a teacher @ PA) was there since start of school, Loucks was there forever (his dad was also a basketball coach @ PA), Keith's family moved to LR from Stuttgart  when he was in th 6th grade--Knighten transferred from Episcopal about the 8th or 9th grade--Hefley has been there since pre-k (his dad is a PA alum).

Don't make this game into something else.  It is a meeting of two teams with great coaches and traditions that have worked hard and played their hearts out to get to the state championship.

[MDXPHD]

I haven't researched it, but that sounds right.

But, Batesville and Wynne both have impressive histories too.

Just curious if Batesville and Wynne are allowed to recruit their surrounding areas also?

Now the BS starts.  FYI, Thrash (his mother was a teacher @ PA) was there since start of school, Loucks was there forever (his dad was also a basketball coach @ PA), Keith's family moved to LR from Stuttgart  when he was in th 6th grade--Knighten transferred from Episcopal about the 8th or 9th grade--Hefley has been there since pre-k (his dad is a PA alum).

Don't make this game into something else.  It is a meeting of two teams with great coaches and traditions that have worked hard and played their hearts out to get to the state championship.

This will be brought up every year on this board until the private schools are in their own classification in every sport.

[Red Devil Alum]

I haven't researched it, but that sounds right.

But, Batesville and Wynne both have impressive histories too.

Just curious if Batesville and Wynne are allowed to recruit their surrounding areas also?

Now the BS starts.  FYI, Thrash (his mother was a teacher @ PA) was there since start of school, Loucks was there forever (his dad was also a basketball coach @ PA), Keith's family moved to LR from Stuttgart  when he was in th 6th grade--Knighten transferred from Episcopal about the 8th or 9th grade--Hefley has been there since pre-k (his dad is a PA alum).

Don't make this game into something else.  It is a meeting of two teams with great coaches and traditions that have worked hard and played their hearts out to get to the state championship.

This will be brought up every year on this board until the private schools are in their own classification in every sport.

It has no basis in fact, as shown above, but whatever makes you feel better.

[MDXPHD]

I haven't researched it, but that sounds right.

But, Batesville and Wynne both have impressive histories too.

Just curious if Batesville and Wynne are allowed to recruit their surrounding areas also?

Now the BS starts.  FYI, Thrash (his mother was a teacher @ PA) was there since start of school, Loucks was there forever (his dad was also a basketball coach @ PA), Keith's family moved to LR from Stuttgart  when he was in th 6th grade--Knighten transferred from Episcopal about the 8th or 9th grade--Hefley has been there since pre-k (his dad is a PA alum).

Don't make this game into something else.  It is a meeting of two teams with great coaches and traditions that have worked hard and played their hearts out to get to the state championship.

This will be brought up every year on this board until the private schools are in their own classification in every sport.

It has no basis in fact, as shown above, but whatever makes you feel better.

I didn't bring it up.  You're a sensitive little fella.  Direct your statements at the relevant person. Thanks

[spongebob]

I thought same thing about sensitivity. I was just asking Batesville and Wynne residents? And I got a reply from a PA guy

[Red Devil Alum]

I haven't researched it, but that sounds right.

But, Batesville and Wynne both have impressive histories too.

Just curious if Batesville and Wynne are allowed to recruit their surrounding areas also?

Now the BS starts.  FYI, Thrash (his mother was a teacher @ PA) was there since start of school, Loucks was there forever (his dad was also a basketball coach @ PA), Keith's family moved to LR from Stuttgart  when he was in th 6th grade--Knighten transferred from Episcopal about the 8th or 9th grade--Hefley has been there since pre-k (his dad is a PA alum).

Don't make this game into something else.  It is a meeting of two teams with great coaches and traditions that have worked hard and played their hearts out to get to the state championship.

This will be brought up every year on this board until the private schools are in their own classification in every sport.

It has no basis in fact, as shown above, but whatever makes you feel better.

I didn't bring it up.  You're a sensitive little fella.  Direct your statements at the relevant person. Thanks

Yep Im sensitive.

[tmycjy]

Hey just want to put Wynne thing in there also here Wynne season from 1991 until now not trying to get any one mad here with this I'm just try to put our history on this

1991.  9-3  6-1 quarter finals
1992.  6-5 6-1 east champion 1st round
1993.  7-5 4-3 quarter final
1994.  6-5.4-3 1st round
1995.  8-3 6-1 east champion 1st round
1996. 9-1-1 7-0 east champion 1st round
1997. 8-4.   5-2 quarter finals
1998  9-3.   5-2 quarter finals
1999 12-1. 7-0 east champion simi finals
2000 12-1 7-0 east champion simi finals
2001 11-2-1 6-1 state champion
2002 10-2 7-0 east champion quarter finals
2003 9-3. 5-2 quarter finals
2004 12-2 7-0 east champion state champion
2005 9-3-1 5-2 simi finals
2006 10-3 7-0 east champion simi finals
2007. 2-8 2-5
2008 3-8 3-4 1st round
2009 5-5 4-3
2010 5-5 3-4
2011 9-3 6-1 quarter finals
2012 12-1 7-0 east champion simi finals
2013 9-3 6-1 quarter finals
2014 12-1 6-1 in state finals still in season

[Maynard G Krebs]

Hey just want to put Wynne thing in there also here Wynne season from 1991 until now not trying to get any one mad here with this I'm just try to put our history on this

1991.  9-3  6-1 quarter finals
1992.  6-5 6-1 east champion 1st round
1993.  7-5 4-3 quarter final
1994.  6-5.4-3 1st round
1995.  8-3 6-1 east champion 1st round
1996. 9-1-1 7-0 east champion 1st round
1997. 8-4.   5-2 quarter finals
1998  9-3.   5-2 quarter finals
1999 12-1. 7-0 east champion simi finals
2000 12-1 7-0 east champion simi finals
2001 11-2-1 6-1 state champion
2002 10-2 7-0 east champion quarter finals
2003 9-3. 5-2 quarter finals
2004 12-2 7-0 east champion state champion
2005 9-3-1 5-2 simi finals
2006 10-3 7-0 east champion simi finals
2007. 2-8 2-5
2008 3-8 3-4 1st round
2009 5-5 4-3
2010 5-5 3-4
2011 9-3 6-1 quarter finals
2012 12-1 7-0 east champion simi finals
2013 9-3 6-1 quarter finals
2014 12-1 6-1 in state finals still in season

Impressive, great tradition.  This will be a good game between two great programs

[Red Devil Alum]

Hey just want to put Wynne thing in there also here Wynne season from 1991 until now not trying to get any one mad here with this I'm just try to put our history on this

1991.  9-3  6-1 quarter finals
1992.  6-5 6-1 east champion 1st round
1993.  7-5 4-3 quarter final
1994.  6-5.4-3 1st round
1995.  8-3 6-1 east champion 1st round
1996. 9-1-1 7-0 east champion 1st round
1997. 8-4.   5-2 quarter finals
1998  9-3.   5-2 quarter finals
1999 12-1. 7-0 east champion simi finals
2000 12-1 7-0 east champion simi finals
2001 11-2-1 6-1 state champion
2002 10-2 7-0 east champion quarter finals
2003 9-3. 5-2 quarter finals
2004 12-2 7-0 east champion state champion
2005 9-3-1 5-2 simi finals
2006 10-3 7-0 east champion simi finals
2007. 2-8 2-5
2008 3-8 3-4 1st round
2009 5-5 4-3
2010 5-5 3-4
2011 9-3 6-1 quarter finals
2012 12-1 7-0 east champion simi finals
2013 9-3 6-1 quarter finals
2014 12-1 6-1 in state finals still in season

The Wynne Yellow Jacket is sweet looking too.

[Intelligentsia]

Agree or not, the AAA settled the matter by making private schools play up in classification, so if you have an issue that is where it should be voiced.  Public school students have the ability to school choice while private schools offer scholarships for students with a demonstrated need.  Both public and private have been known to offer jobs to parents of promising players - I'm confident it still happens.  If we had as many private schools as do other states I might agree that they should firm their own conference, but I don't think we have enough larger privates to make that a real option.  With public school choice and making privates play up,  the "playing field" has been pretty much leveled, IMO.  Fact is, P.A. has a strong program.  If you have an issue, the best bet would be to advocate a move to push privates up another division. 

Now as I've made clear, I do have an issue with the P.A. football facility and will speak with the AAA director about my concern.  May not do any good, but I'll have "my say"

[WPWells]

12th Man understands the whole "playing up a class" thing, but why are there private schools like Union Christian and Conway Christian in 2A?

[Intelligentsia]

12th Man understands the whole "playing up a class" thing, but why are there private schools like Union Christian and Conway Christian in 2A?

I don't know - they must have VERY few students.

[Complete Biased PoV]

I don't know about Union Christian.  But Conway Christian is only 22 years old, being formed in 1992.  They have an extremely small student body.  I don't see them growing much either, as Conway is one of the top school systems in the state and there is another private school in Conway, St. Joseph's Catholic School.

[AT]

Union Christian has a very low number of students per class.

[#1jacketfan]

I thought same thing about sensitivity. I was just asking Batesville and Wynne residents? And I got a reply from a PA guy

The PA fans are on the edge bro...they act like if PA loses they might lose their jobs or something...it's kinda funny to see how they hinge all their hopes and dreams on a high school football game..

[Uncle Ivan]

It has no basis in fact, as shown above, but whatever makes you feel better.

No basis whatsoever.

[saywhatsaywhat]

I haven't researched it, but that sounds right.

But, Batesville and Wynne both have impressive histories too.

Just curious if Batesville and Wynne are allowed to recruit their surrounding areas also?

Now the BS starts.  FYI, Thrash (his mother was a teacher @ PA) was there since start of school, Loucks was there forever (his dad was also a basketball coach @ PA), Keith's family moved to LR from Stuttgart  when he was in th 6th grade--Knighten transferred from Episcopal about the 8th or 9th grade--Hefley has been there since pre-k (his dad is a PA alum).

Don't make this game into something else.  It is a meeting of two teams with great coaches and traditions that have worked hard and played their hearts out to get to the state championship.

And when it is all said and done. PA players are hand picked. Those few you mentioned are just the ones to make the fact look better

[Red Devil Alum]

I haven't researched it, but that sounds right.

But, Batesville and Wynne both have impressive histories too.

Just curious if Batesville and Wynne are allowed to recruit their surrounding areas also?

Now the BS starts.  FYI, Thrash (his mother was a teacher @ PA) was there since start of school, Loucks was there forever (his dad was also a basketball coach @ PA), Keith's family moved to LR from Stuttgart  when he was in th 6th grade--Knighten transferred from Episcopal about the 8th or 9th grade--Hefley has been there since pre-k (his dad is a PA alum).

Don't make this game into something else.  It is a meeting of two teams with great coaches and traditions that have worked hard and played their hearts out to get to the state championship.

And when it is all said and done. PA players are hand picked. Those few you mentioned are just the ones to make the fact look better

Do you know what tuition is at PA? Do you know that there is no such thing as an "athletic" scholarship to the school? PA students are "hand picked" because they are admitted to the school, but likewise PA is hand-picked by students due to the education, environment and athletics the school provides.  NLR HS can say "come play for us" and we'll give you great coaching and exposure.  PA says "come pay us $10,000 per year and we'll give you great coaching and exposure."  PA does give a limited number of partial scholarships to students, however, the number of recipients that play athletics is LOWER than the student body as a whole.

Name me a player on this team, or on any past team, that was provided a free scholarship to play for PA.

The recruiting argument is just an excuse used by schools and fans that otherwise don't like the fact that they have fallen behind PA. 

[#1jacketfan]

I haven't researched it, but that sounds right.

But, Batesville and Wynne both have impressive histories too.

Just curious if Batesville and Wynne are allowed to recruit their surrounding areas also?

Now the BS starts.  FYI, Thrash (his mother was a teacher @ PA) was there since start of school, Loucks was there forever (his dad was also a basketball coach @ PA), Keith's family moved to LR from Stuttgart  when he was in th 6th grade--Knighten transferred from Episcopal about the 8th or 9th grade--Hefley has been there since pre-k (his dad is a PA alum).

Don't make this game into something else.  It is a meeting of two teams with great coaches and traditions that have worked hard and played their hearts out to get to the state championship.

And when it is all said and done. PA players are hand picked. Those few you mentioned are just the ones to make the fact look better

Do you know what tuition is at PA? Do you know that there is no such thing as an "athletic" scholarship to the school? PA students are "hand picked" because they are admitted to the school, but likewise PA is hand-picked by students due to the education, environment and athletics the school provides.  NLR HS can say "come play for us" and we'll give you great coaching and exposure.  PA says "come pay us $10,000 per year and we'll give you great coaching and exposure."  PA does give a limited number of partial scholarships to students, however, the number of recipients that play athletics is LOWER than the student body as a whole.

Name me a player on this team, or on any past team, that was provided a free scholarship to play for PA.

The recruiting argument is just an excuse used by schools and fans that otherwise don't like the fact that they have fallen behind PA.

And when it's all said and done...who cares!

[PA Dad]

You are correct.  And that is an interesting point.  Here are the specifics:

Kevin Kelley took over as head coach in 2003 ---

2003 - State Championship
2004 - Lost to Dollarway in Quarterfinals - State Runner-up (PA beat state champion CAC in regular season)
2005 - Lost to Nashville in Semis - State Champion
2006 - Lost to Greenwood in Finals - State Champion (Obviously)
2007 - Lost to Greenwood in Quarterfinals - State Champion
2008 - State Championship
2009 - Lost to Monticello in Semis - State Champion
2010 - Lost to Shiloh in Finals - State Champion (Obviously)
2011 - State Championship
2012 - Lost to Batesville in Semis - State Runner-up
2013 - Lost to Morrilton in Quarterfinals - State Champion
2014 - Will either be State Champion or will lose to State Champion

Senior PA Quarterbacks that are in at least their 2nd year of starting are the only ones (and have always) made the state championship and are 3-1 with that to change to 3-2 or 4-1 on Saturday. 
2003 - Sr QB Adam Thrash (2nd year starter)
2006 - Sr QB Stefan Loucks (3rd year starter)
2008 - Sr QB Spencer Keith (2nd year starter)
2011 - Sr QB Fredi Knighten (2nd year starter)
2014 - Sr QB Will Hefley (2nd year starter)

The only time they have made the state championship without a senior QB is 2010 when the Fredi Knighten led Bruins lost to the Kiehl Frazier led Shiloh Christian Saints.

That last paragraph doesn't sound good for PA next year.

[MDXPHD]

The recruiting argument is just an excuse used by schools and fans that otherwise don't like the fact that they have fallen behind PA.

This just isn't true.  This argument is made because it has impacted high school sports in Arkansas.  That's precisely why the multiplier is applied.  I'm not saying PA has some crazy advantage over the public schools today, but people aren't strictly complaining because they have "fallen behind" PA.  It gets brought up every year, no matter if it's about PA, Shiloh, or any other private school. 

You figured with tuition like it is, PA could do something about that wall.  Maybe skip a flight to Cali or trip to Texas one year and push that wall back.

[Red Devil Alum]

The recruiting argument is just an excuse used by schools and fans that otherwise don't like the fact that they have fallen behind PA.

This just isn't true.  This argument is made because it has impacted high school sports in Arkansas.  That's precisely why the multiplier is applied.  I'm not saying PA has some crazy advantage over the public schools today, but people aren't strictly complaining because they have "fallen behind" PA.  It gets brought up every year, no matter if it's about PA, Shiloh, or any other private school. 

You figured with tuition like it is, PA could do something about that wall.  Maybe skip a flight to Cali or trip to Texas one year and push that wall back.

Blake Sims ran into a brick wall on a TD run on Saturday. I hope for safety's sake alabama never gets another home game.

[MDXPHD]

The recruiting argument is just an excuse used by schools and fans that otherwise don't like the fact that they have fallen behind PA.

This just isn't true.  This argument is made because it has impacted high school sports in Arkansas.  That's precisely why the multiplier is applied.  I'm not saying PA has some crazy advantage over the public schools today, but people aren't strictly complaining because they have "fallen behind" PA.  It gets brought up every year, no matter if it's about PA, Shiloh, or any other private school. 

You figured with tuition like it is, PA could do something about that wall.  Maybe skip a flight to Cali or trip to Texas one year and push that wall back.

Blake Sims ran into a brick wall on a TD run on Saturday. I hope for safety's sake alabama never gets another home game.

Lol, bless your heart.

[spongebob]

I haven't researched it, but that sounds right.

But, Batesville and Wynne both have impressive histories too.

Just curious if Batesville and Wynne are allowed to recruit their surrounding areas also?

Now the BS starts.  FYI, Thrash (his mother was a teacher @ PA) was there since start of school, Loucks was there forever (his dad was also a basketball coach @ PA), Keith's family moved to LR from Stuttgart  when he was in th 6th grade--Knighten transferred from Episcopal about the 8th or 9th grade--Hefley has been there since pre-k (his dad is a PA alum).

Don't make this game into something else.  It is a meeting of two teams with great coaches and traditions that have worked hard and played their hearts out to get to the state championship.

And when it is all said and done. PA players are hand picked. Those few you mentioned are just the ones to make the fact look better

Do you know what tuition is at PA? Do you know that there is no such thing as an "athletic" scholarship to the school? PA students are "hand picked" because they are admitted to the school, but likewise PA is hand-picked by students due to the education, environment and athletics the school provides.  NLR HS can say "come play for us" and we'll give you great coaching and exposure.  PA says "come pay us $10,000 per year and we'll give you great coaching and exposure."  PA does give a limited number of partial scholarships to students, however, the number of recipients that play athletics is LOWER than the student body as a whole.

Name me a player on this team, or on any past team, that was provided a free scholarship to play for PA

Zac Kelley

[dpatterson4]

PA biggest defensive starter is 6 feet 198 lbs but they recruit.

[dpatterson4]

I haven't researched it, but that sounds right.

But, Batesville and Wynne both have impressive histories too.

Just curious if Batesville and Wynne are allowed to recruit their surrounding areas also?

Now the BS starts.  FYI, Thrash (his mother was a teacher @ PA) was there since start of school, Loucks was there forever (his dad was also a basketball coach @ PA), Keith's family moved to LR from Stuttgart  when he was in th 6th grade--Knighten transferred from Episcopal about the 8th or 9th grade--Hefley has been there since pre-k (his dad is a PA alum).

Don't make this game into something else.  It is a meeting of two teams with great coaches and traditions that have worked hard and played their hearts out to get to the state championship.

And when it is all said and done. PA players are hand picked. Those few you mentioned are just the ones to make the fact look better

Do you know what tuition is at PA? Do you know that there is no such thing as an "athletic" scholarship to the school? PA students are "hand picked" because they are admitted to the school, but likewise PA is hand-picked by students due to the education, environment and athletics the school provides.  NLR HS can say "come play for us" and we'll give you great coaching and exposure.  PA says "come pay us $10,000 per year and we'll give you great coaching and exposure."  PA does give a limited number of partial scholarships to students, however, the number of recipients that play athletics is LOWER than the student body as a whole.

Name me a player on this team, or on any past team, that was provided a free scholarship to play for PA

Zac Kelley
[/quote

How do you know that to be true....you don't!

[PA Dad]

The recruiting argument is just an excuse used by schools and fans that otherwise don't like the fact that they have fallen behind PA.

This just isn't true.  This argument is made because it has impacted high school sports in Arkansas.  That's precisely why the multiplier is applied.  I'm not saying PA has some crazy advantage over the public schools today, but people aren't strictly complaining because they have "fallen behind" PA.  It gets brought up every year, no matter if it's about PA, Shiloh, or any other private school. 

You figured with tuition like it is, PA could do something about that wall.  Maybe skip a flight to Cali or trip to Texas one year and push that wall back.
End quote.

Frankly, I wish PA could move up to 6A.  While Batesville, Wynne, CF and a couple of other 5A teams can match PA, there is no team in 5A central which can.  The regular season games are over by halftime and that makes for boring football.  I'd much rather see PA challenged at least four or five times a year.

[PA Dad]

I haven't researched it, but that sounds right.

But, Batesville and Wynne both have impressive histories too.

Just curious if Batesville and Wynne are allowed to recruit their surrounding areas also?

Now the BS starts.  FYI, Thrash (his mother was a teacher @ PA) was there since start of school, Loucks was there forever (his dad was also a basketball coach @ PA), Keith's family moved to LR from Stuttgart  when he was in th 6th grade--Knighten transferred from Episcopal about the 8th or 9th grade--Hefley has been there since pre-k (his dad is a PA alum).

Don't make this game into something else.  It is a meeting of two teams with great coaches and traditions that have worked hard and played their hearts out to get to the state championship.

And when it is all said and done. PA players are hand picked. Those few you mentioned are just the ones to make the fact look better

Do you know what tuition is at PA? Do you know that there is no such thing as an "athletic" scholarship to the school? PA students are "hand picked" because they are admitted to the school, but likewise PA is hand-picked by students due to the education, environment and athletics the school provides.  NLR HS can say "come play for us" and we'll give you great coaching and exposure.  PA says "come pay us $10,000 per year and we'll give you great coaching and exposure."  PA does give a limited number of partial scholarships to students, however, the number of recipients that play athletics is LOWER than the student body as a whole.

Name me a player on this team, or on any past team, that was provided a free scholarship to play for PA

Zac Kelley
[/quote

How do you know that to be true....you don't!

Actually, it is true.  But, that's not because Zack plays football.  The kids of every teacher get at least a partial scholarship.

[MDXPHD]

Frankly, I wish PA could move up to 6A.  While Batesville, Wynne, CF and a couple of other 5A teams can match PA, there is no team in 5A central which can.  The regular season games are over by halftime and that makes for boring football.  I'd much rather see PA challenged at least four or five times a year.

PA could petition to play up if they want to I'm pretty sure. 

[spongebob]

I haven't researched it, but that sounds right.

But, Batesville and Wynne both have impressive histories too.

Just curious if Batesville and Wynne are allowed to recruit their surrounding areas also?

Now the BS starts.  FYI, Thrash (his mother was a teacher @ PA) was there since start of school, Loucks was there forever (his dad was also a basketball coach @ PA), Keith's family moved to LR from Stuttgart  when he was in th 6th grade--Knighten transferred from Episcopal about the 8th or 9th grade--Hefley has been there since pre-k (his dad is a PA alum).

Don't make this game into something else.  It is a meeting of two teams with great coaches and traditions that have worked hard and played their hearts out to get to the state championship.

And when it is all said and done. PA players are hand picked. Those few you mentioned are just the ones to make the fact look better

Do you know what tuition is at PA? Do you know that there is no such thing as an "athletic" scholarship to the school? PA students are "hand picked" because they are admitted to the school, but likewise PA is hand-picked by students due to the education, environment and athletics the school provides.  NLR HS can say "come play for us" and we'll give you great coaching and exposure.  PA says "come pay us $10,000 per year and we'll give you great coaching and exposure."  PA does give a limited number of partial scholarships to students, however, the number of recipients that play athletics is LOWER than the student body as a whole.

Name me a player on this team, or on any past team, that was provided a free scholarship to play for PA

Zac Kelley
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How do you know that to be true....you don't!

Actually, it is true.  But, that's not because Zack plays football.  The kids of every teacher get at least a partial scholarship.

The man asked to name a person who was getting a free education so I named him lol

[spongebob]

Some people are way too sensitive when they hear the words scholarship and recruiting ha ha

[PA Dad]

Frankly, I wish PA could move up to 6A.  While Batesville, Wynne, CF and a couple of other 5A teams can match PA, there is no team in 5A central which can.  The regular season games are over by halftime and that makes for boring football.  I'd much rather see PA challenged at least four or five times a year.

PA could petition to play up if they want to I'm pretty sure.

I don't know if that's true or not.  If it is I sure wish the powers at PA would do do.

If that happened, would the complaining stop?  (Not a chance).

[doubled]

Here is the real deal private schools get the best and brightest because the tuition is so high and the kids are hand picked. Sports has as much to do with being smart as it does being athletic. When u add the 2 together with outstanding facilities and coaching well u get championships. Recruiting does go on in private schools as well as public and to say it doesn't well ur just lying to yourself and the people on this board . Here is what needs to be looked at, if private schools are winning state titles at a greater rate than public schools compared to how many private schools there are, then there is a problem.

[Maynard G Krebs]

Frankly, I wish PA could move up to 6A.  While Batesville, Wynne, CF and a couple of other 5A teams can match PA, there is no team in 5A central which can.  The regular season games are over by halftime and that makes for boring football.  I'd much rather see PA challenged at least four or five times a year.

PA could petition to play up if they want to I'm pretty sure.

My understanding is that the current multiplier should put PA at the 4-A level and the school requested and was granted the move up to 5-A.  I could be wrong and since I no longer have kids there, I'm unsure of the enrollment. 

[MDXPHD]

Frankly, I wish PA could move up to 6A.  While Batesville, Wynne, CF and a couple of other 5A teams can match PA, there is no team in 5A central which can.  The regular season games are over by halftime and that makes for boring football.  I'd much rather see PA challenged at least four or five times a year.

PA could petition to play up if they want to I'm pretty sure.

I don't know if that's true or not.  If it is I sure wish the powers at PA would do do.

If that happened, would the complaining stop?  (Not a chance).

Not a chance is correct.  But playing Greenwood, Alma, ElDo, Benton, PB, and Jonesboro would be fun for PA.

[MDXPHD]

Here is the real deal private schools get the best and brightest because the tuition is so high and the kids are hand picked. Sports has as much to do with being smart as it does being athletic. When u add the 2 together with outstanding facilities and coaching well u get championships. Recruiting does go on in private schools as well as public and to say it doesn't well ur just lying to yourself and the people on this board . Here is what needs to be looked at, if private schools are winning state titles at a greater rate than public schools compared to how many private schools there are, then there is a problem.

You should look at soccer lol.  Other than Harrison. (Go Postal is going to want to jump on this if he sees!)

[PA Dad]

Frankly, I wish PA could move up to 6A.  While Batesville, Wynne, CF and a couple of other 5A teams can match PA, there is no team in 5A central which can.  The regular season games are over by halftime and that makes for boring football.  I'd much rather see PA challenged at least four or five times a year.

PA could petition to play up if they want to I'm pretty sure.

I don't know if that's true or not.  If it is I sure wish the powers at PA would do do.

If that happened, would the complaining stop?  (Not a chance).

Not a chance is correct.  But playing Greenwood, Alma, ElDo, Benton, PB, and Jonesboro would be fun for PA.

It would indeed.  I realize PA would lose a lot more than it does now, but that would be a lot more fun than 5A central is.

[PA Dad]

Frankly, I wish PA could move up to 6A.  While Batesville, Wynne, CF and a couple of other 5A teams can match PA, there is no team in 5A central which can.  The regular season games are over by halftime and that makes for boring football.  I'd much rather see PA challenged at least four or five times a year.

PA could petition to play up if they want to I'm pretty sure.

My understanding is that the current multiplier should put PA at the 4-A level and the school requested and was granted the move up to 5-A.  I could be wrong and since I no longer have kids there, I'm unsure of the enrollment.

I don't know at what student numbers the classifications change.  I'd guess that PA has around 90 students per grade.

[Intelligentsia]

When I mentioned scholarships, I should have clarified.  There are two primary sources of private school scholarships provided.  One source is provided  by the school. Each private handles that differently since their are no rules governing the practice - even to the point that each family situation may be addressed individually, depending on that school's practice.  The other source of student scholarship come through tuition paid by alumni and patrons of the school.  I have worked with and for private schools and it is a common practice for patrons to sponsor exceptional students (academic and athletic), relatives, or employees children to attend who otherwise could not.  I don't have a problem with that practice, but it certainly sets private schools apart from public.  Similar practices have occurred in public schools with the incentive coming in the form of a relative being offered a job to attract a player, but to my knowledge, this does not happen very often. 

So the fact is, there are different rules for private and public schools that set them apart, but both public school choice and pushing privates up a division have erased most of the impact.  As I've said before, P.A. is good primarily as a result of providing a constantly good program; as has Batesville, Wynne, and to a large degree, Greenbrier, Camden Fairview, and perhaps a few others.

[Complete Biased PoV]

The recruiting argument is just an excuse used by schools and fans that otherwise don't like the fact that they have fallen behind PA.

This just isn't true.  This argument is made because it has impacted high school sports in Arkansas.  That's precisely why the multiplier is applied.  I'm not saying PA has some crazy advantage over the public schools today, but people aren't strictly complaining because they have "fallen behind" PA.  It gets brought up every year, no matter if it's about PA, Shiloh, or any other private school. 

You figured with tuition like it is, PA could do something about that wall.  Maybe skip a flight to Cali or trip to Texas one year and push that wall back.

Haven't heard in a long time, but I know at one point the athletic budget was roughly 1% of the school's total budget....all upgrades are done by the Bruin Backers and/or Individuals.

[Complete Biased PoV]

When I mentioned scholarships, I should have clarified.  There are two primary sources of private school scholarships provided.  One source is provided  by the school. Each private handles that differently since their are no rules governing the practice - even to the point that each family situation may be addressed individually, depending on that school's practice.  The other source of student scholarship come through tuition paid by alumni and patrons of the school.  I have worked with and for private schools and it is a common practice for patrons to sponsor exceptional students (academic and athletic), relatives, or employees children to attend who otherwise could not.  I don't have a problem with that practice, but it certainly sets private schools apart from public.  Similar practices have occurred in public schools with the incentive coming in the form of a relative being offered a job to attract a player, but to my knowledge, this does not happen very often. 

So the fact is, there are different rules for private and public schools that set them apart, but both public school choice and pushing privates up a division have erased most of the impact.  As I've said before, P.A. is good primarily as a result of providing a constantly good program; as has Batesville, Wynne, and to a large degree, Greenbrier, Camden Fairview, and perhaps a few others.

PA actually uses a 3rd Party financial aid program based in another state.  The money donated for "scholarships" goes into an account handled by the 3rd party.  The section I put in bold, is specifically "outlawed" by the AAA since around 2007 or 2008 maybe even earlier.  I don't know if they ever passed it but the AAA was discussing how much "need based financial aid" a private school student athlete could receive and still be eligible for athletics.

[Intelligentsia]

Maybe not allowable by AAA, but I can't imagine that it does not happen - a brother-in-law who has a friend ...  Some of the same stuff goes on in public schools, so the "playing field" is still pretty level between public and private.  Speaking of playing fields - got that wall fixed yet:). 

[24tedmiller]

There is no reason there shouldn't at least be padding on that wall at PA. As much as it cost to go there, you would think they could spend a little money and put padding on a BRICK wall that is 5 yards from the field. Wouldn't hurt to expand seating as well.