THERE IS NO TRUTH TO HIM GOING TO CONWAY! I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH A SOURCE VERY CLOSE TO COACH WOOD AND THIS IS JUST A RUMOR.
Like we said before, denial at this stage is would not be reliable. I think you guys are going to have to ride this one out and see what ACTUALLY happens after your season is over. From what I understand there is much more to this "rumor" than is being discussed.
I know i haven't been that creditable for information but i am going to guarantee that he is not going to Conway. I just have a lengthy conversation with someone who is very close to wood and has been friends with coach wood for a long time. He told me coach wood is not going anywhere and he will be addressing his team tomorrow to settle any doubts anyone has.
Quote from: 479BOYZ on November 26, 2008, 02:31:19 pm
I know i haven't been that creditable for information but i am going to guarantee that he is not going to Conway. I just have a lengthy conversation with someone who is very close to wood and has been friends with coach wood for a long time. He told me coach wood is not going anywhere and he will be addressing his team tomorrow to settle any doubts anyone has.
Not to be a nay-sayer, but I think we have all seen this before.
1) "Rumor" starts with more than 1 origin.
2) Primary party denies, denies, denies
3) Team meeting/press conference held to calm the proverbial waters
4) "Rumor" verified at conclusion of season.
Reminds me of the Jerry Jones/Jimmy Johnson drama in Dallas a few years ago.
i know people are going to say its going to be like Nick Saben when he was with the dolphins and he said he's not interested in Alabama over and over again and then he went to Alabama.
All i know is right now coach wood said he's happy here he's trying to win a championship here this year and he will try to win another championship here next year.
Quote from: 479BOYZ on November 26, 2008, 02:42:20 pm
i know people are going to say its going to be like Nick Saben when he was with the dolphins and he said he's not interested in Alabama over and over again and then he went to Alabama.
All i know is right now coach wood said he's happy here he's trying to win a championship here this year and he will try to win another championship here next year.
There's a lot more examples than that.
i know i just figured i'd name that one but i dont think i've ever heard of a coach who went to the state championship game the previous year and about to go again and the next year be loaded again leave a team to go to another which is terrible.
Quote from: 479BOYZ on November 26, 2008, 03:20:46 pm
i know i just figured i'd name that one but i dont think i've ever heard of a coach who went to the state championship game the previous year and about to go again and the next year be loaded again leave a team to go to another which is terrible.
D. Patten was very close to doing great things here in Bryant when he bolted for Fayettville. There is no doubt that had he stayed here he probably would have made the title game. Turns out he did it quicker up there. Things happen.
not in conway they aren't any good
Patton would of never made the title game at Bryant... How he got there at Fayetteville I will never know.
Someone had to replace Adams.
I'm thinking about hiring Adams as my offensive coord.... I need something really high octane ;D
Hire CardsQB.
He probably remembers all three plays.
If you need a field goal kicker, and a 3 point shooter for your basketball team. Let me know. I have the prime candidate.
I hear he is not being used to well.
I probably could get QB12 for less money... leaving more for myself. Plus I'm sure Farmington would be sad to lose Adams. I'll let you know about the kicker.
Wood said the same thing before he left Shiloh. He told everybody he was happy at Shiloh and wasnt going anywhere. He was gone the next week. I hope the same thing doesnt happen at Har-Ber.
Quote from: 479BOYZ on November 26, 2008, 02:42:20 pm
i know people are going to say its going to be like Nick Saben when he was with the dolphins and he said he's not interested in Alabama over and over again and then he went to Alabama.
All i know is right now coach wood said he's happy here he's trying to win a championship here this year and he will try to win another championship here next year.
I not saying that your statement isn't true.......HOWEVER.....what could he say TODAY if it was true??......if I were him, and it was true, I wouldn't be saying "Shucks, you boys caught me.....??
The potential ramifications on an already signed or agreed to contract between Wood and Conway will be significant and far reaching......
479 he is GONE to Conway just live with it!!!!!
Quote from: NWAfootball on November 26, 2008, 04:27:13 pm
Wood said the same thing before he left Shiloh. He told everybody he was happy at Shiloh and wasnt going anywhere. He was gone the next week. I hope the same thing doesnt happen at Har-Ber.
I had forgotten about that!
no he's staying
Quote from: 479BOYZ on November 26, 2008, 03:33:23 pm
not in conway they aren't any good
Conway is loaded with talent. They're all walking the halls. Maybe due to a very bland offensive system. Your boy's offensive genius might be able to get them to come back out and play.
You will probably have to move to Conway and tell us next year how Wood has brought a nearly dead program back from the ashes in 2-3 short years. They should seriously be in the title hunt each and every year.
Quote from: 479BOYZ on November 26, 2008, 05:09:43 pm
no he's staying
479, I'm not saying he is leaving, but isn't it strange we are hearing the same story from so many places? Honestly, I ignored the whole thing until I heard it from more than one person from different parts of the state that have no connection. Personally, I discount denials when it gets this far down the road.
I know Tiger_dad_14, but haven't seen him since softball last spring. I know he has contacts in Springdale, and he posted something about it last night. Then ARDA and Bait, hoops22, etc. etc. etc.
A little too much coincidence for my taste.
Like I said, for the sake of the kids ar Har-Ber, I hope it isn't true. We all know how hard it is to get a team into the position Har-Ber is, and now this. Very poor timing.
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on November 26, 2008, 05:02:14 pm
Quote from: NWAfootball on November 26, 2008, 04:27:13 pm
Wood said the same thing before he left Shiloh. He told everybody he was happy at Shiloh and wasnt going anywhere. He was gone the next week. I hope the same thing doesnt happen at Har-Ber.
I had forgotten about that!
So, let me get this straight, Chris Wood has been in this exact situation before.......and in the previous situation he has denied that he was leaving.......and then a week later he was gone......
Well, if that is the case then I guess that, considering his previous attempts at integrity, then whatever he says today it TOTALLY worthless.......
I guess that the kids, parents, and administration are at Chris Woods' whim and mercy.......
If he leaves next week, after denying the rumor this week, he will never be able to show his face in Springdale again.........
Guys, think about it for a minute, would someone with credibility be willing to tell 479 the true story on any issue????? 479 can't even type in a legible sentence 99% of the time and he is all of a sudden the spokesperson for Harber and their head coach. I don't think so.
Quote from: 7AFBFAN on November 26, 2008, 05:27:13 pm
Guys, think about it for a minute, would someone with credibility be willing to tell 479 the true story on any issue????? 479 can't even type in a legible sentence 99% of the time and he is all of a sudden the spokesperson for Harber and their head coach. I don't think so.
Now wait a minute, for all his faults, there's no doubt 479 genuinely loves his Wildcats. I understand his concern here, and even an over willingness to accept justifications, rationalizations, and denials.
I just think you have to first, look at the source(s) of the "rumor", and then the denials and their source(s). Only time will tell for sure.
Look at the Har-Ber supporters on FF. They are all kids. Where is Ty on this one anyway?
Does anyone close to the Conway administration have any ideas in regards to how much money that they are willing to pay the next coach??
Someone here on the board mentioned "Barry Lunney" money....is that possible for Conway??
i got it from a source that talk to coach wood today
Quote from: 479BOYZ on November 26, 2008, 05:42:28 pm
i got it from a source that talk to coach wood today
479......do you think that this person would be someone that Coach Wood would be truthful with??..??
Is your source this Tim Pruitt guy??..??
And if so, if he has a kid currently on the team, do you think that he would tell him......especially if he were leaving??..??
479, the all CAPS is really annoying and shows some desperation.
Simple fact, is regardless if goes or not, he did show interest in the job, and it is stupid as heck to do that in the playoffs.
If you listened to the Cabot game this past Friday on 103.7 the buzz, you heard the previous Coach at Conway, doing some color commentating during the game. It was fairly obvious listening to him that he was a big fan of the Har Ber Coach. They also spoke to each other after the game. Maybe they are close friends, or maybe there is something to this!
479......I don't know if this means anything, but I just had someone that I know up in NWA call me ,that used to live in Conway.....and he said that he sat 2 rows in front of the AD and Superintendent from Conway at the HarBer/NLR game.....
Conway was not in the playoffs......I know that the AD might have been there to see his son coach (NLR)......but why would the Superintendent come up and freeze his butt off to watch this game......
Hmmm........the story continues to unfold!!
tim pruitt???
Quote from: 479BOYZ on November 26, 2008, 07:21:00 pm
tim pruitt???
Doesn't a Pruitt guy work in the Springdale AD office??........I have heard his name somewhere here on FF on another thread before.........
I was looking at my game program from the HarBer game and saw that there was a kid named Pruitt on the team and was putting 2 and 2 together...... :-\ :-\
Did I totally mix this one up??..??
tim pruitt in on the booster club i don't think at ad office
he's an insurance man
Well....479......when you get my age your memory will slip too........don't laugh......I'm serious!!
As you youngsters say..........MY BAD!!........
its fine im not laughing i just dont want names coming up that dont have anything to do with this.
Quote from: 479BOYZ on November 26, 2008, 08:08:09 pm
its fine im not laughing i just dont want names coming up that dont have anything to do with this.
Well, I agree with you....this deal, if true, will effect too many players, coaches, administrators that are directly involved with the program.......innocent insurance guys shouln't have to suffer also.......
haha i know
Quote from: baitshop on November 26, 2008, 08:07:13 pm
Well....479......when you get my age your memory will slip too........don't laugh......I'm serious!!
As you youngsters say..........MY BAD!!........
They say it's the second thing to go ;D
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on November 26, 2008, 08:25:39 pm
Quote from: baitshop on November 26, 2008, 08:07:13 pm
Well....479......when you get my age your memory will slip too........don't laugh......I'm serious!!
As you youngsters say..........MY BAD!!........
They say it's the second thing to go ;D
Unfortunately......that is true....... :-[ :-[
well im not looking forward to that i don't have much to give lol
Quote from: 479BOYZ on November 26, 2008, 08:28:15 pm
well im not looking forward to that i don't have much to give lol
Well keep that to yourself until you get married.....after that you have her trapped!!
so ty just informed me if we get to the game early there is free food
Free doughnuts at hot chocolate at Bentonville practice tomorrow morning, and a free tailgate party Friday at 4:30.
dang i might just have to go to that haha what kind of food is being served at SS.
Quote from: 479BOYZ on November 26, 2008, 09:08:39 pm
so ty just informed me if we get to the game early there is free food
"Free" is a relative term........compared to what it costs you boys to eat in NWA it will SEEM as though it is free......
Although.....I had ordered a whole bunch of CHOP beef and BLOCK cheese in honor of DP in case they made it this far........
Quote from: baitshop on November 26, 2008, 07:11:13 pm
479......I don't know if this means anything, but I just had someone that I know up in NWA call me ,that used to live in Conway.....and he said that he sat 2 rows in front of the AD and Superintendent from Conway at the HarBer/NLR game.....
Conway was not in the playoffs......I know that the AD might have been there to see his son coach (NLR)......but why would the Superintendent come up and freeze his butt off to watch this game......
Hmmm........the story continues to unfold!!
Superintendent did move to Conway from Springdale fairly recently. Possibly still has some family there. You never know--could mean nothing or could mean everything.
I do think that Wood's wife is from Central Arkansas and has some connection to Conway or somewhere close. Someone has told me that McNabb's (Russ DC) wife is her cousin.
If he has had problems with Sdale AD/Super, can get more money, & make a family move then maybe it's a legit possibility.
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Valleysports on November 17, 2008, 07:46:32 pm
Who's Chris Wood's? Someone told me this guy has expressed interest in becoming a Wampus Cat!
Quote from: Madgun on November 27, 2008, 07:43:53 am
Quote from: baitshop on November 26, 2008, 07:11:13 pm
479......I don't know if this means anything, but I just had someone that I know up in NWA call me ,that used to live in Conway.....and he said that he sat 2 rows in front of the AD and Superintendent from Conway at the HarBer/NLR game.....
Conway was not in the playoffs......I know that the AD might have been there to see his son coach (NLR)......but why would the Superintendent come up and freeze his butt off to watch this game......
Hmmm........the story continues to unfold!!
Superintendent did move to Conway from Springdale fairly recently. Possibly still has some family there. You never know--could mean nothing or could mean everything.
I do think that Wood's wife is from Central Arkansas and has some connection to Conway or somewhere close. Someone has told me that McNabb's (Russ DC) wife is her cousin.
If he has had problems with Sdale AD/Super, can get more money, & make a family move then maybe it's a legit possibility.
Chris Wood is from central AR. He graduated from Atkins in 1989. His grandmother still lives here as well as an aunt and uncle who spoil him unmercifully.
Quote from: Madgun on November 27, 2008, 07:43:53 am
Quote from: baitshop on November 26, 2008, 07:11:13 pm
479......I don't know if this means anything, but I just had someone that I know up in NWA call me ,that used to live in Conway.....and he said that he sat 2 rows in front of the AD and Superintendent from Conway at the HarBer/NLR game.....
Conway was not in the playoffs......I know that the AD might have been there to see his son coach (NLR)......but why would the Superintendent come up and freeze his butt off to watch this game......
Hmmm........the story continues to unfold!!
Superintendent did move to Conway from Springdale fairly recently. Possibly still has some family there. You never know--could mean nothing or could mean everything.
I do think that Wood's wife is from Central Arkansas and has some connection to Conway or somewhere close. Someone has told me that McNabb's (Russ DC) wife is her cousin.
If he has had problems with Sdale AD/Super, can get more money, & make a family move then maybe it's a legit possibility.
everyone has problems with the springdale AD...i wont take it any further than that
Quote from: 479BOYZ on November 26, 2008, 02:17:44 pm
THERE IS NO TRUTH TO HIM GOING TO CONWAY! I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH A SOURCE VERY CLOSE TO COACH WOOD AND THIS IS JUST A RUMOR.
Announcement made Thursday.
Men sometimes have problems with women in power. LOL
Wood is still borderline on leaving and his wife wants to stay in NWAR.. So seems like the decision is made, especially with both Ft. Smith schools going to the Central conference in 2010. My wife knows Wood's wife and she says there "ain't gonna be a move". So guess we all wait til this next week perhaps? Fun times, huh?
Sounds to me like there is more than one woman with power in his life. He needs to grow a pair and take the Conway job.
LIke they say, if momma's not happy nobody's happy.
Quote from: Iknewthemwhen on November 29, 2008, 07:55:52 pm
LIke they say, if momma's not happy nobody's happy.
That's an understatement! ;D
Quote from: Iknewthemwhen on November 29, 2008, 10:03:24 am
Men sometimes have problems with women in power. LOL
u dont know this woman ad in springdale!!
Quote from: 479BOYZ on November 26, 2008, 03:33:23 pm
not in conway they aren't any good
Yeah okay...
We have one of the biggest high schools in the state, with some of the better facilities (and about to be far better) with great community support. All we need is a coach (even though I think he was a heck of one)
just because you have good facilities doesnt make you a good team moron. har-ber has alot of talent conway not soo much.
Quote from: 479BOYZ on December 01, 2008, 10:21:35 am
just because you have good facilities doesnt make you a good team moron. har-ber has alot of talent conway not soo much.
479--What ever happened to the BIG ANNOUNCEMENT ? ?
what big announcement?
Quote from: 479BOYZ on December 01, 2008, 10:30:07 am
what big announcement?
Please - Your kiilin me !
You know "Coach Wood to Conway" " 479 the new coach at HarBer" ;D
haha i know maybe for once i was right lol.... he's staying not worried about it at all.
Quote from: 479BOYZ on December 01, 2008, 10:21:35 am
just because you have good facilities doesnt make you a good team moron. har-ber has alot of talent conway not soo much.
That is, without a doubt, one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
I hope what you meant to say was: Har-Ber has had a lot of success in 3 years, while Conway hasn't.
Conway is a top job in this state, in my opinion. There is tons of talent walking the halls. They probably have lost some of it recently to surrounding schools because the kids are looking to play in a more exciting system. But bring in the right coach and those kids will come back and the ones not playing will come back out.
There is no reason for Conway to not be a state title contender each and every year.
Mr. Boyz, what you are calling talent at Har-Ber is probably due to excellent coaching from the lower levels on up.....but we won't get into all that again. :)
Athlete for athlete, I'd say Conway probably beats you. They just need good coaching from the ground up.
well they might would have had a chance if they made the playoffs but no they started basketball early again this year. har-ber plays as a team they don't have to have alot of athletes. i would put my team har-ber up against conway any day.
I don't disagree with that statement at all.
I argued against the statement of: "har-ber has a lot of talent. Conway not so much". I guess you changed your mind.
I almost never hear anyone say their team doesn't have lots of talent. Even the perenial losers always claim to have lots of talent but poor coaching. Don't get me wrong, you may be telling the truth but I just think its funny to hear it again.
I'm not from Conway. They're not my team.
Coaches have been saying that about them for years. I've heard some say that they dreaded the day Smith resigned for fear that they'd get a coach who would utilize the talent in town.
If Kenny Smith reallly is the problem, were are his failings? Doesn't teach fundamentals, can't get the kids to play hard, bad x and O guy. I have seen them play over the years and they always look well coached to me.
Quote from: Iknewthemwhen on December 01, 2008, 03:32:08 pm
If Kenny Smith reallly is the problem, were are his failings? Doesn't teach fundamentals, can't get the kids to play hard, bad x and O guy. I have seen them play over the years and they always look well coached to me.
He was great when he had Peyton Hillis...
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on December 01, 2008, 06:13:10 pm
Quote from: Iknewthemwhen on December 01, 2008, 03:32:08 pm
If Kenny Smith reallly is the problem, were are his failings? Doesn't teach fundamentals, can't get the kids to play hard, bad x and O guy. I have seen them play over the years and they always look well coached to me.
He was great when he had Peyton Hillis...
Peyton Rocks! 123yds yesterday! and he was a Blocking back!
Quote from: Earl is my Hero!! on December 01, 2008, 06:13:10 pm
Quote from: Iknewthemwhen on December 01, 2008, 03:32:08 pm
If Kenny Smith reallly is the problem, were are his failings? Doesn't teach fundamentals, can't get the kids to play hard, bad x and O guy. I have seen them play over the years and they always look well coached to me.
He was great when he had Peyton Hillis...
Actually, he wasn't great when he had Peyton Hillis. He couldn't win a state championship with Hillis. Not only with Hillis, but he also had Kevin Wardlow at the time, who was often overlooked because of academics, but was a better player in high school than Hillis was. If you can't win a state title with Kevin Wardlow AND Peyton Hillis, then it's just not happening.
Now that Smith is gone, and the powers that be in Conway are actually going outside of the system to find a new coach, you better believe they'll be one of the top programs in the state very soon. There's tons of talent roaming the halls at Conway High. During my days at CHS, there were a lot of guys who would have been amazing on the field but simply didn't want to play for Smith. You better believe that they'll be a power in high school football in no time.
With Coach Wood being from Atkins I wouldnt be totally shocked if he left us and took the Conway job. I do hope he is happy where he is at and remains our coach at Har-Ber though!
Quote from: Iknewthemwhen on December 01, 2008, 03:32:08 pm
If Kenny Smith reallly is the problem, were are his failings? Doesn't teach fundamentals, can't get the kids to play hard, bad x and O guy. I have seen them play over the years and they always look well coached to me.
My impression has always been this: Smith was a fine coach, but he was dedicated to running the ball exclusively. A lot of offenses now utilize the spread attack and that gets multiple playmakers involved and keeps multiple kids happy.
I figure that, unless you were that 1 or 2 kids that got to run the ball, several kids lost interest because they weren't "involved" offensively. If there's a chance to not only be involved as a ballcarrier but also as a receiving option now, then more kids might become interested.
Coach Wood has adressed his team and shut up the rumors that he is going to Conway. He will be at Har-Ber for a long-time or until Coach Malzahn comes calling.
Quote from: hoops22 on December 02, 2008, 10:21:06 am
Coach Wood has adressed his team and shut up the rumors that he is going to Conway. He will be at Har-Ber for a long-time or until Coach Malzahn comes calling.
So it's all been Wind Bag Baloney!
Quote from: Billyo62 on December 02, 2008, 10:26:12 am
Quote from: hoops22 on December 02, 2008, 10:21:06 am
Coach Wood has adressed his team and shut up the rumors that he is going to Conway. He will be at Har-Ber for a long-time or until Coach Malzahn comes calling.
So it's all been Wind Bag Baloney!
Hmmm...
I was sure there was something to this. Oh well.
i guess my source was right he is not going anywhere.
Quote from: hoops22 on December 02, 2008, 10:21:06 am
Coach Wood has adressed his team and shut up the rumors that he is going to Conway. He will be at Har-Ber for a long-time or until Coach Malzahn comes calling.
This is closer to the truth than you can imagine. When Malzahn left Springdale, he recommended Wood for Har-Ber and Johnson for Springdale High. Any interview by any coach back then for the HC position of either school was just "smoke and mirrors" by the superintendent. Tice and Holt found out quickly that they had no chance and that taking applications was a meer formality and a process of appearing to be "searching" ...
Malzahn likes Wood and do not be surprised if Gus is selected as HC at some college soon, after the bowl season is over. Talk centers around several colleges, including Tulsa if their coach leaves, Mississippi State, New Mexico, Kansas State and more. I see Gus wanting more to be a HC now than an OC at some big prominent SEC, Big 12 or big 10 school, etc. I know one school has already contacted Gus and he told them he would NOT talk until after Tulsa's bowl game.... that took class, like Gus or not... team comes first.
So, I agree Wood is hanging tight til Gus makes a move at the college level.
Quote from: HSFBF on December 03, 2008, 01:09:50 pm
Quote from: hoops22 on December 02, 2008, 10:21:06 am
Coach Wood has adressed his team and shut up the rumors that he is going to Conway. He will be at Har-Ber for a long-time or until Coach Malzahn comes calling.
This is closer to the truth than you can imagine. When Malzahn left Springdale, he recommended Wood for Har-Ber and Johnson for Springdale High. Any interview by any coach back then for the HC position of either school was just "smoke and mirrors" by the superintendent. Tice and Holt found out quickly that they had no chance and that taking applications was a meer formality and a process of appearing to be "searching" ...
Malzahn likes Wood and do not be surprised if Gus is selected as HC at some college soon, after the bowl season is over. Talk centers around several colleges, including Tulsa if their coach leaves, Mississippi State, New Mexico, Kansas State and more. I see Gus wanting more to be a HC now than an OC at some big prominent SEC, Big 12 or big 10 school, etc. I know one school has already contacted Gus and he told them he would NOT talk until after Tulsa's bowl game.... that took class, like Gus or not... team comes first.
So, I agree Wood is hanging tight til Gus makes a move at the college level.
Hope it's Soon.. and best of luck to him! ;D
HSFBF: Agree, similar to what I have heard too. Good post.
Maybe Arkansas State will beat Troy this week and win a bowl game then a bigger school will come-a-callin for Steve Roberts. We would welcome Gus at ASU!
there's no way gus goes to arkansas st. hes going to a big conference.
A situation I think that could very well happen is East Carolina's coach Skip Holtz taking a job at a major conference school like Mississippi State for example and Gus Malzahn being offered the head coach position at East Carolina University.
i dont know i still think he goes to a bigger conference.
Gus flew to Auburn yesterday afternoon. Funny that it happened before Tuber was fired today. Was he there to see if Tuber could work with Gus as OC? Guess Tuber said "no", Gus came back, then Auburn fired their head coach. Also, Gus talked to Miami today. Seems like many BIG schools want Gus' wide open, high octane offense.. Problem is, will he take a HC position at a lesser big time school? We shall see after the bowl game, but I predict Malzahn is OUT of Tulsa .. He has earned it.
he will go somewhere big no doubt about it.
That is Miami of Ohio... just to make things clear.... The East Carolina job is a bigger job than Miami of Ohio. ECU was ranked as high as #14 in the nation this season and is a bigger university than the U of A enrollment wise. Also I really dont see Gus getting the Mississippi State or Auburn jobs. Although I think he would be a fine choice I think those schools will pick either a proven head coach of a coordinator from a larger school like Mullin from Florida or Vinables from Oklahoma.
I agree. He'll either have an opportunity to be a HC at a lower-level school or be the OC at a big-time school. I find it hard to believe that a major program would hand over the reigns to him with no previous HC experience. Just an opinion.
if he went to the SEC that team will be dangerous.
He was in the SEC. Not terribly dangerous then. I know, I know--HDN held him back. Of course.
Lighting up the Hogs offensively this year can not be a true test of what his offense can do in the SEC. Not sure they had an SEC-caliber defense.
The man has not invented the wheel. He is a very gifted offensive mind. But he won't be "dangerous" in the SEC unless he's got some serious athletes. That's the nature of things--good players make good coaches.
Probably not many DC's are freaking out about the thoughts of Gus calling plays in the SEC. Meyer, Spurrier, Petrino, etc. are already pretty talented guys. Possibly Leach if the Auburn talk from yesterday is true.
he will be dangerous in the SEC just looks at the hogs after he left. they had a terrible year and got blasted in the cotton bowl.
Quote from: 479BOYZ on December 04, 2008, 11:42:41 am
if he went to the SEC that team will be dangerous.
He won't get a HC job in the SEC... he needs to take a HC job somewhere or he will be a OC for the Next 10 years! What does HE Want to do? That is the Question!
Did the blasting in the Cotton Bowl have nothing to do with the turnover of the head coach and other staff members? That was all due to Gus' departure the year before?
Remind me, what bowl did they win the year before when Gus was calling the plays? No national championship?
I love the guy, but it's possible that he sometimes gets TOO much credit. He will be successful wherever he goes no doubt, but let's not go overboard.
Again, he'll be dangerous if he puts himself in a situation with dangerous athletes. Same as the other OCs.
oh sorry first year in the sec his offense goes to the capital one bowl probably one of the best bowls the hogs have been to in a while and if there wasn't so much drama going around that whole year they might have done better. if he had another year to build on his first year he might have dont some awesome things here.
Is the Capital One Bowl now a more prestigious bowl than the Cotton? I'm seriously asking.
Why does he get a free pass for all the "drama" that year and last year's team doesn't? No drama then?
I'm really just playing devil's advocate here, but are you just really attached to him because he's a "Springdale boy" or do you really think he's the second coming? Smarter and wiser than everybody else?
To answer your question yes the Capital One Bowl is a better bowl than the Cotton Bowl.
Madgun, Gus is a god in Springdale. Anything associated with Springdale is a god in Springdale.
Quote from: 7AFBFAN on December 04, 2008, 12:48:50 pm
Madgun, Gus is a god in Springdale. Anything associated with Springdale is a god in Springdale.
Well respected...yes. A god...no. We don't use that word lightly.
Quote from: olddog79 on December 04, 2008, 12:56:56 pm
Quote from: 7AFBFAN on December 04, 2008, 12:48:50 pm
Madgun, Gus is a god in Springdale. Anything associated with Springdale is a god in Springdale.
Well respected...yes. A god...no. We don't use that word lightly.
Gus will jump ship every 3 years or less ...Ladder climber!
Quote from: Billyo62 on December 04, 2008, 01:00:47 pm
Quote from: olddog79 on December 04, 2008, 12:56:56 pm
Quote from: 7AFBFAN on December 04, 2008, 12:48:50 pm
Madgun, Gus is a god in Springdale. Anything associated with Springdale is a god in Springdale.
Well respected...yes. A god...no. We don't use that word lightly.
Gus will jump ship every 3 years or less ...Ladder climber!
Is a Ladder Climber a bad thing in your eyes?
I was referring to gods, you know - money, football coaches, schools, etc.
Gus is definitely well respected in Arkansas in general, he is a great guy but definitely too humble to be associated with a lot that I see on here.
Quote from: olddog79 on December 04, 2008, 01:02:13 pm
Quote from: Billyo62 on December 04, 2008, 01:00:47 pm
Quote from: olddog79 on December 04, 2008, 12:56:56 pm
Quote from: 7AFBFAN on December 04, 2008, 12:48:50 pm
Madgun, Gus is a god in Springdale. Anything associated with Springdale is a god in Springdale.
Well respected...yes. A god...no. We don't use that word lightly.
Gus will jump ship every 3 years or less ...Ladder climber!
Is a Ladder Climber a bad thing in your eyes?
I wouldn't hire him if I thought he would probably leave in the next 2 years.
That's never good for ANY Program at ANY Level.
Can't blame the guy for moving up... just don't like the short term pattern he has had recently, I think he will make one more short term move and fizzle out somewhere!
Quote from: NWAfootball on December 04, 2008, 12:47:06 pm
To answer your question yes the Capital One Bowl is a better bowl than the Cotton Bowl.
I don't know if I agree with that. Capital One would have rather had Florida for sure. Cotton wants the Hogs. Hogs played a higher-ranked opponent, though the Wolverines finished strong. It's hard for me to say that Capital One is more desirable. Just opinion.
he will make a jump to a higher conference and become a big time coach.
The more legit teams they play at Tulsa the less likely Gus will be able to realize his potential in his next coaching move. If he is coaching a team with equal talent levels of the opponent he will shine, when he has to step up and play against teams with much better talent it hurts his chances for the next level. So, I think he needs to make a move soon as an SEC coordinator and then try the head coaching ranks. Right now his potential as a head coach is somewhere like Arkansas State at best. Just my opinion.
Quote from: 7AFBFAN on December 04, 2008, 01:12:52 pm
The more legit teams they play at Tulsa the less likely Gus will be able to realize his potential in his next coaching move. If he is coaching a team with equal talent levels of the opponent he will shine, when he has to step up and play against teams with much better talent it hurts his chances for the next level. So, I think he needs to make a move soon as an SEC coordinator and then try the head coaching ranks. Right now his potential as a head coach is somewhere like Arkansas State at best. Just my opinion.
He won't be a head coach until he can show that he can recruit, and I don't mean from the high he just left and all those players leave that school in two years!
i don't necessarily think gus is a bad coach.as a matter of fact i think he's a good coach.
but those 5 D-1 guys sure did help his name out a lot. i just don't think he's what some people make him out to be.
Quote from: 479BOYZ on December 04, 2008, 12:17:55 pm
he will be dangerous in the SEC just looks at the hogs after he left. they had a terrible year and got blasted in the cotton bowl.
The high powered offense he took to the Citrus Bowl while he was the OC here only managed 14 points. They got blasted in the Cotton Bowl by a dang good Mizzou team after our HC debacle went down last year not because Gus wasn't here.
Gus Malzahn makes a MAJOR difference at EVERY school he has coached at from being the Head Coach at Hughes High School to being the Offensive Coordinator for the Tulsa Golden Hurricane and that will continue to happen wherever he coaches. Even in the SEC. The guy is an offensive genius and surrounds himself with the right coaches to win in any situation.
Quote from: NWAfootball on December 04, 2008, 03:28:00 pm
Gus Malzahn makes a MAJOR difference at EVERY school he has coached at from being the Head Coach at Hughes High School to being the Offensive Coordinator for the Tulsa Golden Hurricane and that will continue to happen wherever he coaches. Even in the SEC. The guy is an offensive genius and surrounds himself with the right coaches to win in any situation.
Not at Arkansas , he was a Cancer! was that all his fault...who knows!
Quote from: NWAfootball on December 04, 2008, 03:28:00 pm
Gus Malzahn makes a MAJOR difference at EVERY school he has coached at from being the Head Coach at Hughes High School to being the Offensive Coordinator for the Tulsa Golden Hurricane and that will continue to happen wherever he coaches. Even in the SEC. The guy is an offensive genius and surrounds himself with the right coaches to win in any situation.
Excuse me! He is the
Co- Offensive Coordinator of the Golden Hurricane. I think there is a reason he wasn't given the full reins and named the OC by himself.
They run Malzahn's offense and he does ALL the playcalling. He is THE offensive coordinator. The other guy just coaches the offensive line. Oh yeah and the one year he was at Arkansas the Hogs won more games in a season than they had in 10 years. We saw how great the Wildcat formation worked after Malzahn left.
Quote from: Billyo62 on December 04, 2008, 03:35:35 pm
Quote from: NWAfootball on December 04, 2008, 03:28:00 pm
Gus Malzahn makes a MAJOR difference at EVERY school he has coached at from being the Head Coach at Hughes High School to being the Offensive Coordinator for the Tulsa Golden Hurricane and that will continue to happen wherever he coaches. Even in the SEC. The guy is an offensive genius and surrounds himself with the right coaches to win in any situation.
Not at Arkansas , he was a Cancer! was that all his fault...who knows!
Are any of the cry babies from that vaunted class at Springdale High still at the U of A? That was a friggin circus. Hiring Malzahn was the worst mistake Arkansas ever made.
looked like it worked pretty well when the talent was there to run it.
they took the starting job away from gus's boy because he couldn't cut it.
there's a reason he was only there for one year.
When the talent was there to run it? Arkansas had the same guys in 2006 as they had in 2005. The difference is that Malzahn wasnt making the playcalls. I guess Mustain can "CUT IT" enough for USC to give him a full ride. I dont think Arkansas State would give Casey Dick a scholarship if he would have decided to leave the U of A. By the way Damian Williams seems to be "CUTTING IT" just fine at USC! But then again he had trouble dropping balls and couldnt get off the line of scrimmage at Arkansas! HA :-D
I totally disagree about Gus and the Hogs. Houston Nutt was mad b/c they made him hire Gus, so I think he pulled Mustain to show Gus that he (Nutt) was still in charge. I think the biggest mistake was keeping Nutt and losing Mustain, Williams and Gus. Just think what we might have done last year with Mustain and Williams pulling some of the coverage off of McFadden and Jones.
It is a travesty that we have had such pitiful QBing (sorry Casey - you are a great kid, but ...) while Mustain is out there and Kodi Burns is at Auburn - 2 Arkansas kids that Nutt let get away. You can say all you want to about Mustain's ego etc. but don't forget he was just an 18 year old kid. How many 17-18 year-old kids wouldn't get a little full of themselves with all the attention Mustain got and with his mom and all those Springdale people pumping him full of himself. He was a kid caught in the middle of a bunch of big boys with even Bigger egos. He was treated terribly and Nutt is a blow hard. I get tired of the Springdale smack - but I am totally with them on this one. Damien Williams is amazing and he was amazing in HS and we should have done anything to keep him! IMO, of course.
i'm pretty sure your boy mustain hasn't seen much playing time this year, and won't.
damian is doing good.
my point was that they executed the wildcat/wildhog whatever you call it, just as good without malzahn. easily just as good.
What team were you watching?? The Wildcat formation did not work near as well in 2006 as it did in 2005. Anybody that watched the Hogs both years will tell you that.
although, let me say, i still blame his mom for a LOT of things that happened in that entire situation
I have said this many times, you simply cannot claim MM is that great as a college player because his stats will not back it up. CD had just as good a year if you look at the stats and now is one of the better QB's in UA history if you look at stats. MM played OK, weaker teams and still struggled to put up big numbers. Now he is a backup at USC, and not proving his superstar hype there. If it changes in the future I'll be happy to say so.
The only stat that matters to me.... 8-0.... Also Mustains numbers as a true freshmen at Arkansas were better than Matt Stafford's at Georgia or Ryan Mallett's at Michigan.
btw. NWA. i'm pretty sure he's not on a full ride at USC.
the only "ride" he has is on the pine.
schools like USC dont spend that kind of money on a guy and let him sit.
Like I said guys anything Springdale is a god to anyone from Springdale. You only have to scroll up on this page to understand it. This kid is arguing against the state he lives and supposedly the football program he supports to try and make GUS, MITCH, and DAMIEN look better. Just admit they are the greatest and he will go away.
Mustain is on football scholarship at USC. He is the second string QB behind a guy named Mark Sanchez. Maybe youve heard of him? He's kinda good. :-)
looks to me like he's behind a FRESHMAN on the depth chart...
aaron corp.
maybe you've heard of him. he's kinda good :-)
in case you can't count. thats makes him thrid (3) string.
thats... two (2) guys in front of him.
I believe the top QB in the country is headed to USC. Mitch will be the practice guy for the remainder of his college career.
he had his chance.
when sanchez dislocated his knee.
they were still going to start corp over him.
The first time but the second time Sanchez got hurt Mustain was going to start. You obviously dont watch any USC games if you dont think Mustain is the second string QB. As far as Barclay coming to USC that doesnt really matter considering ever QB at USC including Mustain was a top 5 QB out of high school. Mustain will be the starting QB as a senior. He nearly beat out Sanchez for the starting job this season. Pete Carroll said he decided to go with Sanchez because he was more familiar with the offense.
Quote from: NWAfootball on December 04, 2008, 05:22:35 pm
The first time but the second time Sanchez got hurt Mustain was going to start. You obviously dont watch any USC games if you dont think Mustain is the second string QB. As far as Barclay coming to USC that doesnt really matter considering ever QB at USC including Mustain was a top 5 QB out of high school. Mustain will be the starting QB as a senior. He nearly beat out Sanchez for the starting job this season. Pete Carroll said he decided to go with Sanchez because he was more familiar with the offense.
my question to you, my friend, is did he start?
well...?
and this freshman QB they have coming in will play over him.
he already got beat out by a freshman, proving it can be done.
but hey, look on the bright side, he could win the "service team offensive player of the year" award again on the scout team. haha
I guess you know more than Pete Carroll. Probably not.
are you pete carroll?
you must be best buds with him. right?
Pete Carroll doesnt give scholarships to USC to just anybody... He also doesnt say publicly that Mustain almost won the starting job this year if it wasnt true. You hardcore Nutthugger Razorback fans are just mad the biggest recruit in school history peaced out on you to go to USC.
1. i cannot stand Mr. Nutt.
2. you're correct. he doesn't give scholarships to just anyone. i never said he didn't have a scholarship. you used the words "full ride" and i said he DID NOT have a full ride. full ride are big words at a D1 school like USC.
3. he may have been the biggest recruit in history. but i think he's up there with the top 3 biggest busts in school history. yes, he has an 8-0 record. thats as a starter. he started 8 games that the rest of the team, (mcfadden and jones, to name two) saved his butt in.
mitch mustain had 1 less interception than he did touchdown pass in his 1 season at UofA. not very good numbers.
A football scholarship to a D1 school is a full ride. I love talking to people who are so uninformed like yourself. Go look up Matt Stafford's freshmen year stats at Georgia and get back to me. :-D
no. a football scholarship is NOT a full ride.
they do partial scholarships to play football all of the time.
they are allowed to do so if another player is splitting a scholarship between two sports.
That is D2 and lower.... Sorry D1 doesnt give partial football scholarships. Know what your talking about before you post.
NWA 1
Kane 1
good call.
baseball is allowed to split. i assumed it was so for football
but again. tell me how many TD's did mustain have in his 8-0 season?
interceptions? carroll knows that. after all, he's a smart guy.
if the UofA had wanted mustain THAT bad, they would have tried a tad harder to keep him, dont ya think?
Like I said do me a favor and post Mathew Stafford's freshmen year stats vs Mitch Mustain's freshmen year stats. And yes I do think Arkansas would be that dumb considering Nutt was the head coach and basically ended up getting fired over the Mustain ordeal.
BTW since this thread has noyjing to do with coach Wood but rather USC...
Anyone know what's up with Broderick Green?
Green announced he will be transferring to Arkansas.
Quote from: NWAfootball on December 04, 2008, 06:29:40 pm
Green announced he will be transferring to Arkansas.
will he be eligible to play next fall or does he have to petition the ncaa to play?
If you are rating him based on being 8-0 then you know little that makes him a good player. Those games were won by the running game not the QB. Those teams were the weakest part of the UA schedule. Is he a good college qb or not, that's all I care about.
Is Ryan Mallett a good QB?
Quote from: NWAfootball on December 04, 2008, 06:49:08 pm
Is Ryan Mallett a good QB?
i don't think we will know until he suits up in a game next year, if he even gets the job.
;)
Keep in mind gentlemen, that 8th game Mitch got credit for starting and being a "win" for him as a starter, he ONLY played that one first series, threw the interception and NEVER played another down. Actually, Dick was the QB who played virtually the whole game I think.
And, Nutt was just looking for a reason to show Mr. Mustain who was boss after having read THE BOOK and reading what MM said about him. Nutt NEVER forgot that and we see how an immature adult can lower himself to an immature high school/Freshman college student.. Nutt deserved what MM said about him, based on his "used car salesman" antics on and off the field. But, MM does have an ego, fired and fueled by his mom. Seems like another USC QB I heard of went to the PROs and is starting and did NOT play a down at USC. Maybe someone in the PROs will know MM has an arm..... etc.. yea, right! ;)
Mitch Mustain will not start next year because he does not have the talent to be the starter. If you want to know a lot of behind the scenes info on Mustain, you need only to talk with Broderick. I seriously doubt that Mustain will be drafted in the pro's, as he does not have the arm strength he needs.
I'll try and call Chris tomorrow and get a real answer.
Mitch will start next year IF Mark Sanchez goes pro this year. There is no way a freshman will start over him. Mitch had to learn the offense his first year which sanchez had already learned and gave him a leg up. Mitch will be the next starting QB at USC. Oh like someone said Matt Cassell I think he rode the pine to at USC i think he is doing fine now. One more thing Mitch doesn't have the arm strength hahahaha thats funny.
You can book it. Mustain will not start next yea at USC. Additionally, the arm strength issue is something that has been brought up by pro scouts. I suspect they know better than you or I.
MM will not sit behind a freshman? Well I think they have a kid that will be a soph. don't they?
looks like mitch isn't 3rd string he went in when mark when down in the game on Saturday.
The single wing has been resurrected in part because of Gus Malzahn. It might've been used for 100 yrs, but now coaches aren't embarrassed to run it again or run it but call it something else. He's gained a reputation over it.
MM has plenty of time to become the USC QB even if it's only his senior year. Most players improve considerably from 18 to 22 yrs of age. He'll be a lot stronger with 4 yrs of college ball (strength training etc) under his belt. I don't know his ability (not a fan), but I know he'll be a different player after training 3 yrs with USC. Have to wait and see.
There was a QB from Texas High who went to a northern team when MM signed with Arkansas. He supposedly came back and sat out at UA this season. Heard some folks are excited about him.
Quote from: Valleysports on December 09, 2008, 11:49:27 pm
There was a QB from Texas High who went to a northern team when MM signed with Arkansas. He supposedly came back and sat out at UA this season. Heard some folks are excited about him.
That would be Ryan Mallett and, in fall scrimmages, he looked to be the best QB on campus this year.
Quote from: Adjudicator on December 03, 2008, 07:51:53 pm
Maybe Arkansas State will beat Troy this week and win a bowl game then a bigger school will come-a-callin for Steve Roberts. We would welcome Gus at ASU!
Hmmm....
Quote from: TheReal_Deal24 on December 03, 2008, 08:00:25 pm
there's no way gus goes to arkansas st. hes going to a big conference.
I would delete my account here on FF if I had made this statement.....oh, wait.....
Kinda funny ain't it.
No. But your comments are.
Oh now, don't be bitter. The shine may be off the man a little bit but if he can win at least 10 and get to a bowl and win it he may regain some of that.