Lane Hatcher?

[Overdahill]

Generally speaking, the rigor of a PA degree can not be achieved without the ability to get a 21 on the ACT. I'm not saying absolutely, but it would be rare.

Not to mention if you can master the PA offense you are going to handle the ACT hurdle with ease. The ACT speculation seems extremely unlikely to me

[gameoflife]

I don't think you can automatically say the IQ academically and on the field are always the same.  Some very good players are not very good students and vice versa. 

[Overdahill]

I don't think you can automatically say the IQ academically and on the field are always the same.  Some very good players are not very good students and vice versa.

I'm not saying its automatic in all cases but we're talking about QB for one of the more complex systems around and if I remember his "offer" list it included Georgetown

[AirWarren]

I'm not saying its automatic in all cases but we're talking about QB for one of the more complex systems around and if I remember his "offer" list it included Georgetown

Come on. There are some kids that can play football then there are kids that have a brain for complex chemistry. Football IQ and academia are two totally different beasts, I don't care how "complex" the pa playbook is.  Now, there are RARE cases where a kid is blessed with both. But again, that's rare.

[the voice]

I think most of the plays PA runs are determined presnap , kk gives a play and depending on the defense it's run accordingly. Most times it's more remembering the audibles for the week . I know greenwood only runs a few plays that have several different options. It seems really complex to some but it's really pretty simple. Take what they give you , which for PA includes taking shots down the field.

[JessieP]

Come on. There are some kids that can play football then there are kids that have a brain for complex chemistry. Football IQ and academia are two totally different beasts, I don't care how "complex" the pa playbook is.  Now, there are RARE cases where a kid is blessed with both. But again, that's rare.

That's a very good point. Take at look at a very obscure (sarcasm) example, Peyton Manning. As a student Manning was never considered an Oxford candidate. He struggled academically in high school and college. At the NFL combine he scored a 28 on the Wonderlic test (the test that measures intelligence), he was 20th in his combine among qb's. The average score of starting NFL qb's is 38. He ran the most complicated offense in the league better than anyone else. PA's offense is not Harvard, they just do it like a machine.

[AirWarren]

That's a very good point. Take at look at a very obscure (sarcasm) example, Peyton Manning. As a student Manning was never considered an Oxford candidate. He struggled academically in high school and college. At the NFL combine he scored a 28 on the Wonderlic test (the test that measures intelligence), he was 20th in his combine among qb's. The average score of starting NFL qb's is 38. He ran the most complicated offense in the league better than anyone else. PA's offense is not Harvard, they just do it like a machine.

God's gifts. Sometimes comes as one....both....or not athletic or academic all. Haha.

[Overdahill]

That's a very good point. Take at look at a very obscure (sarcasm) example, Peyton Manning. As a student Manning was never considered an Oxford candidate. He struggled academically in high school and college. At the NFL combine he scored a 28 on the Wonderlic test (the test that measures intelligence), he was 20th in his combine among qb's. The average score of starting NFL qb's is 38. He ran the most complicated offense in the league better than anyone else. PA's offense is not Harvard, they just do it like a machine.

Yes and Manning also had the ACT score to play in the SEC. The ACT score to play in the SEC is not Harvard or Oxford level so bad comparison

[Overdahill]

Come on. There are some kids that can play football then there are kids that have a brain for complex chemistry. Football IQ and academia are two totally different beasts, I don't care how "complex" the pa playbook is.  Now, there are RARE cases where a kid is blessed with both. But again, that's rare.

Hello? I don't think one needs a brain for complex chemistry to score an acceptable ACT to play in the SEC

[AirWarren]

Hello? I don't think one needs a brain for complex chemistry to score an acceptable ACT to play in the SEC

I'm just saying. The way you talk the PA playbook is rocket science. Nothing rocket science about a natural born athlete knowing how and when to get the ball to playmakers.

[STBruin]

I'm just saying. The way you talk the PA playbook is rocket science. Nothing rocket science about a natural born athlete knowing how and when to get the ball to playmakers.

I know of 1 play...that no matter what is called, if the defense lines up a certain way, they will automatically check to...and this year...scored quite a bit on it...

[footballfan-tastic]

So what you are saying is if the defense does this, then the QB does this?  Wow!  That is complex.  I bet they do a bunch of repetitions to learn how to recognize that as well.

[yo]

Who will be the next quarterback at PA?  With a program like that surely they have some stud in the system?

[Maynard G Krebs]

Who will be the next quarterback at PA?  With a program like that surely they have some stud in the system?

Last year's backup QB will start this year.  Braden Bratcher will be a junior this season.

[footballfan-tastic]

How is Hatcher doing at Bama?

[Chief_Osceola™]

That's a very good point. Take at look at a very obscure (sarcasm) example, Peyton Manning. As a student Manning was never considered an Oxford candidate. He struggled academically in high school and college. At the NFL combine he scored a 28 on the Wonderlic test (the test that measures intelligence), he was 20th in his combine among qb's. The average score of starting NFL qb's is 38. He ran the most complicated offense in the league better than anyone else. PA's offense is not Harvard, they just do it like a machine.

I'd like to see the numbers on Jay Cutler.  After all, he played at Vanderbilt, aka the Harvard of the South.  But he's also an idiot.

[MT Legend]

How is Hatcher doing at Bama?

pratice squad, He will never see the field their.i flew in to watch the Nettleton game.They do a lot of deception with smart kids. He was a system quarterback. You could tell he was comfortable running that system. He is nowhere near and SEC caliber quarterback though. ASU would have been a perfect fit for him.He is a sunbelt conference type quarterback.I believe he will end up at Arkansas State via transfer after a couple years.

[JessieP]

pratice squad, He will never see the field their.i flew in to watch the Nettleton game.They do a lot of deception with smart kids. He was a system quarterback. You could tell he was comfortable running that system. He is nowhere near and SEC caliber quarterback though. ASU would have been a perfect fit for him.He is a sunbelt conference type quarterback.I believe he will end up at Arkansas State via transfer after a couple years.

Some would argue that the practice squad a Bama is superior to the Sunbelt Conference.

[MT Legend]

Some would argue that the practice squad a Bama is superior to the Sunbelt Conference.

i would say so.,If he hangs out and stays their he is probably going to get a National championship ring or 2.

[footballfan-tastic]

That's a very good point. Take at look at a very obscure (sarcasm) example, Peyton Manning. As a student Manning was never considered an Oxford candidate. He struggled academically in high school and college. At the NFL combine he scored a 28 on the Wonderlic test (the test that measures intelligence), he was 20th in his combine among qb's. The average score of starting NFL qb's is 38. He ran the most complicated offense in the league better than anyone else. PA's offense is not Harvard, they just do it like a machine.

A small correction.  Manning completed his undergraduate work at UT in 3 years and graduated with a 3.6 gpa in business and communication.  He remained for an addition year, his senior season.  I wouldn't say that his grades were unimpressive.  Hardly a dummy.

[footballfan-tastic]

In fairness to Peyton Manning, his score of 28 is actually slightly above average. Quarterbacks average a score of 24 on the Wonderlic while all NFL players average about a 20.

Also, many famous NFL quarterbacks had terrible Wonderlic scores but went on to have great NFL careers. Most notably Vinny Testaverde (17) Terry Bradshaw (16) and Dan Marino (15).take a sample test blue callout copy

Finally, Peyton did score better on the Wonderlic than his 1998 draft rival Ryan Leaf who scored a 27.
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