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Title: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on July 27, 2017, 02:09:06 pm
Fall practice is cranking up. Hooray!!! I really look forward to the season. I also look forward to the friendly (most times) back and forth with you guys over our disagreements.

So. Playoff teams. What 4 ya got? It is an exercise in guesswork I know but might as well kill some time. Will there be surprises or the usual suspects?

My four. tOhio State. Wisconsin. Penn St. Oklahoma St.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on July 27, 2017, 02:44:03 pm
Auburn, Washington, Ohio State, and Miami.....
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: jbtiger73 on July 27, 2017, 02:46:46 pm
Alabama, Ohio State, Florida State, and U$C gets in I believe. I know Bama and Florida State play in the first game of the season. But I believe both of those teams after a loss, can run the table the rest of the way and still have the strength of schedule to get in. Penn State, Wisconsin and LSU are probably other dark horse candidates to get in
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on July 27, 2017, 02:47:34 pm
Teams also in the mix. I am fairly sure the teams that make it will be one of the four I listed above or the other nine teams I listed here.... Alabama, Penn State, Michigan, USC, Clemson, Florida State, Georgia, Oklahoma, LSU
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on July 27, 2017, 02:49:09 pm
Quote from: beach bum on July 27, 2017, 02:44:03 pm
Auburn, Washington, Ohio State, and Miami.....
those 4 would make for an interesting season. I was joking about the B1G flavor in my 4. What I hope and what I think are different. I really think it will be tOhio State, Florida State, Oklahoma St, Washington.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on July 27, 2017, 02:50:59 pm
Quote from: jbtiger73 on July 27, 2017, 02:46:46 pm
Alabama, Ohio State, Florida State, and U$C gets in I believe. I know Bama and Florida State play in the first game of the season. But I believe both of those teams after a loss, can run the table the rest of the way and still have the strength of schedule to get in. Penn State, Wisconsin and LSU are probably other dark horse candidates to get in
I agree. Either Bama or FSU could win out after an initial loss and get in.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on July 27, 2017, 02:54:02 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on July 27, 2017, 02:49:09 pm
those 4 would make for an interesting season. I was joking about the B1G flavor in my 4. What I hope and what I think are different. I really think it will be tOhio State, Florida State, Oklahoma St, Washington.

A team no one is talking about is Oklahoma State for sure.... They score so many points in that soft Big 12 and their schedule is so favorable that they could be 11-0 going into the OU game and that not be the biggest shocker.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: jbtiger73 on July 27, 2017, 03:17:18 pm
You're absolutely right about OK State. Especially since they have the Big 12 title game back this year. I'm assuming they're gonna take the top 2 teams to play in in since they're still not playing divisions. But I wonder what will happen if the 2nd team in the conference, is lower ranked than the third ranked team in the college football poll. Wonder what type of mess that would be for the big 12.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: VHSCoach2 on July 27, 2017, 06:54:30 pm
South Florida will be this year's undefeated Group of 5 team that earns a bid for one of the New Year's 6 bowl games (but not the Playoffs).
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on July 27, 2017, 08:19:06 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on July 27, 2017, 06:54:30 pm
South Florida will be this year's undefeated Group of 5 team that earns a bid for one of the New Year's 6 bowl games (but not the Playoffs).

That coach that left for Oregon left a ton of talent down in Tampa for Charlie Strong to work with.... I hope USF goes 12-0 and Texas goes 5-7 again.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Longfellow on July 29, 2017, 09:47:31 am
Alabama DL Da'Shawn Hand arrested for DUI. Big loss for the first quarter of their season opener. Maybe he'll get off lucky and only be suspended for a day of practice or film session
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on July 29, 2017, 11:33:04 am
Quote from: Longfellow on July 29, 2017, 09:47:31 am
Alabama DL Da'Shawn Hand arrested for DUI. Big loss for the first quarter of their season opener. Maybe he'll get off lucky and only be suspended for a day of practice or film session
come on, you know they will put the hammer down on this one. It will be a 4 film session suspension.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: AirWarren on July 29, 2017, 12:06:17 pm
Ready to see what those hurricanes do this year.

Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Lumberjackfan1978 on July 29, 2017, 07:30:06 pm
Alabama,Ohio State,Florida State, Oklahoma State
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on August 03, 2017, 01:58:49 pm
Coaches poll released.

http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/football/polls/coaches-poll/
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on August 03, 2017, 02:05:43 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on August 03, 2017, 01:58:49 pm
Coaches poll released.

http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/football/polls/coaches-poll/

Very close to what I thought it would be actually....
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on August 03, 2017, 02:43:21 pm
Clemson at 6 looks high to me. Xichigan at 9 is way too high.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: VHSCoach2 on August 03, 2017, 06:59:35 pm
Per Brett McMurphy on Twitter:

Nick Saban said Alabama DE Da'Shawn Hand, arrested for DUI, will not be suspended "if he does everything (internally) he's supposed to do"

Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on August 03, 2017, 09:13:12 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on August 03, 2017, 06:59:35 pm
Per Brett McMurphy on Twitter:

Nick Saban said Alabama DE Da'Shawn Hand, arrested for DUI, will not be suspended "if he does everything (internally) he's supposed to do"
I really didn't expect anything less but this is such a joke. "He wasn't driving" is why Saban said the discipline is what it is. No Tuscalucifer, he was too drunk to drive. He cranked the  engine, turned on the lights but was so drunk that before he put it in drive he passed out. Nice image Nick. Stay a champion.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Redwolves8526 on August 04, 2017, 11:03:10 am
Quote from: AirWarren on July 29, 2017, 12:06:17 pm
Ready to see what those hurricanes do this year.

Gonna come watch in Jonesboro this year?
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on August 04, 2017, 12:37:28 pm
Quote from: Redwolves8526 on August 04, 2017, 11:03:10 am
Gonna come watch in Jonesboro this year?
what an exciting thing for ASU to host a program like the U on campus. Good luck. Enjoy the electricity of the environment.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on August 10, 2017, 08:46:32 pm
Wisconsin lost captain senior linebacker Cichy for the year to an ACL. Like Williams at Arkansas, you hate it for the kids having a dream time of their life come to a screeching halt playing the game they excel at due to injury.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on August 10, 2017, 08:58:01 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on August 10, 2017, 08:46:32 pm
Wisconsin lost captain senior linebacker Cichy for the year to an ACL. Like Williams at Arkansas, you hate it for the kids having a dream time of their life come to a screeching halt playing the game they excel at due to injury.

That just stinks.... I bet you even think this too competing against them with them being in the Big Ten, but Wisconsin is on the short list of programs that gets the most out of what they have to work with for sure and its hard for anybody to not respect them. Boise State and TCU were in that category until just recently. Throw in some programs like Kansas State & Virginia Tech in there too. All those are pretty impressive having winning seasons year after year at a recruiting/resource disadvantage.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: mtindian42 on August 11, 2017, 02:56:45 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on August 10, 2017, 08:46:32 pm
Wisconsin lost captain senior linebacker Cichy for the year to an ACL. Like Williams at Arkansas, you hate it for the kids having a dream time of their life come to a screeching halt playing the game they excel at due to injury.
hate to hear that...hopefully it all works out for him!
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Coach Mac on August 14, 2017, 04:49:04 pm
Memphis Tigers all day mane
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Coach Mac on August 14, 2017, 04:56:21 pm
Memphis Tigers all day everyday
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on August 15, 2017, 09:09:27 am
Quote from: Coach Mac on August 14, 2017, 04:56:21 pm
Memphis Tigers all day everyday

Memphis has actually been pretty impressive the last few seasons....
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Redwolves8526 on August 15, 2017, 11:00:25 am
Quote from: Coach Mac on August 14, 2017, 04:49:04 pm
Memphis Tigers all day mane

What's a mane?
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Redwolves8526 on August 15, 2017, 11:04:13 am
Quote from: LRRandy on August 04, 2017, 12:37:28 pm
what an exciting thing for ASU to host a program like the U on campus. Good luck. Enjoy the electricity of the environment.

I can't wait. I don't think we'll have much of a chance, but it is a great thing for ASU nonetheless. I think our best chance at a Power 5 victory is at Nebraska. But it will be incredible to see the atmosphere in Jonesboro with Miami in town. Hopefully it will be exciting past the 1st quarter though lol
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: VHSCoach2 on August 25, 2017, 07:20:33 am
College football officially returns tomorrow with the Week 0 games.

Oregon State at Colorado State will be the first game to kickoff at 1:30 PM. The nightcap will be (14)Stanford vs. Rice from Sydney, Australia, slated for a 9:00 PM kickoff central time.

In between those two games, Portland State at Brigham Young at 2:00, Hawaii at Massachusetts at 5:00, and (19)South Florida at San Jose State at 6:30.

Not the most exciting slate, but college football is college football.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on August 25, 2017, 09:17:32 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on August 25, 2017, 07:20:33 am
College football officially returns tomorrow with the Week 0 games.

Oregon State at Colorado State will be the first game to kickoff at 1:30 PM. The nightcap will be (14)Stanford vs. Rice from Sydney, Australia, slated for a 9:00 PM kickoff central time.

In between those two games, Portland State at Brigham Young at 2:00, Hawaii at Massachusetts at 5:00, and (19)South Florida at San Jose State at 6:30.

Not the most exciting slate, but college football is college football.
totally agree. On both counts. Can't wait for Thursday night
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on August 26, 2017, 07:11:49 pm
Listening to Chip Kelly talk anybody else in my boat thinking he will end up at one of these 3 SEC schools next season depending on who gets fired..... I love doing these theoretical scenarios. They all will be able to throw a huge sum of cash at him to bring him back to the college game. His style and personality is not suited for the NFL, but he is the perfect college coach for his offensive scheme.

Option A: TENNESSEE, He could thrive here within 2 years at this school. He would prefer it here in the East if Butch Jones goes 7-5 which is not that crazy if it were to happen.

Option B: TEXAS A&M, Give him Texas to recruit all the offense he wants. This would stink for Arkansas's future if this was to happen. A 7-5 or even 8-4 season will see Sumlin go. 7-5 for sure.

Option C: ARKANSAS, Only if option A and B were not open along with another school like Notre Dame wanting him if they fired their current coach who has a hot seat after their 4-8 season. Arkansas of these 3 SEC schools would have to pony up some serious cash to have him go to Fayetteville in particular. Sadly, I think the only way Bert is fired is a 5-7 season. 6-6 or 7-5 and his buyout will keep him around. Again, this final scenario has to have a lot of dominos fall into place.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: VHSCoach2 on August 26, 2017, 07:23:08 pm
#19 South Florida is currently down 16-0 to San Jose State in the first quarter.

Oh, Charlie Strong...
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on August 26, 2017, 07:24:46 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on August 26, 2017, 07:23:08 pm
#19 South Florida is currently down 16-0 to San Jose State in the first quarter.

Oh, Charlie Strong...

I just feel bad for him.... They better keep it under 17 points to give themselves a punchers chance the final 3 quarters. Their QB is so good he can bring them back 2 scores so fast. Anymore than that and I can't see them coming back.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Longfellow on August 27, 2017, 05:22:42 pm
Quote from: beach bum on August 26, 2017, 07:11:49 pm
Listening to Chip Kelly talk anybody else in my boat thinking he will end up at one of these 3 SEC schools next season depending on who gets fired..... I love doing these theoretical scenarios. They all will be able to throw a huge sum of cash at him to bring him back to the college game. His style and personality is not suited for the NFL, but he is the perfect college coach for his offensive scheme.

Option A: TENNESSEE, He could thrive here within 2 years at this school. He would prefer it here in the East if Butch Jones goes 7-5 which is not that crazy if it were to happen.

Option B: TEXAS A&M, Give him Texas to recruit all the offense he wants. This would stink for Arkansas's future if this was to happen. A 7-5 or even 8-4 season will see Sumlin go. 7-5 for sure.

Option C: ARKANSAS, Only if option A and B were not open along with another school like Notre Dame wanting him if they fired their current coach who has a hot seat after their 4-8 season. Arkansas of these 3 SEC schools would have to pony up some serious cash to have him go to Fayetteville in particular. Sadly, I think the only way Bert is fired is a 5-7 season. 6-6 or 7-5 and his buyout will keep him around. Again, this final scenario has to have a lot of dominos fall into place.
Do you really think Notre Dame would fire Chip Kelly's brother to hire him? Arkansas seems much more likely than ND
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on August 27, 2017, 07:13:47 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on August 27, 2017, 05:22:42 pm
Do you really think Notre Dame would fire Chip Kelly's brother to hire him? Arkansas seems much more likely than ND

How the heck did I not know they were brothers.... That is embarrassing on my part to not know that how much they look alike. You can tell he is itching to get back on the field and coach though.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on August 27, 2017, 08:46:50 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on August 27, 2017, 05:22:42 pm
Do you really think Notre Dame would fire Chip Kelly's brother to hire him? Arkansas seems much more likely than ND
lol. I didn't think they were, but you did make me check google. Salute
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on August 31, 2017, 07:45:00 am
Game Day!!!!!!!

Buckeyes and Hogs both open the season tonight. The wait is over. I'm actually going to the Razorback game since my wife wants to go and it may be the last one at War Memorial stadium. I'll follow the Buckeyes on my phone and watch the replay later. Hooray!! Football season is here!!
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on August 31, 2017, 07:24:16 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on August 31, 2017, 07:45:00 am
Game Day!!!!!!!

Buckeyes and Hogs both open the season tonight. The wait is over. I'm actually going to the Razorback game since my wife wants to go and it may be the last one at War Memorial stadium. I'll follow the Buckeyes on my phone and watch the replay later. Hooray!! Football season is here!!

That is a unique little matchup having the Buckeyes go to Bloomington on the first Thursday of the year....
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on August 31, 2017, 09:25:10 pm
Indiana up by 1 at the beginning of the 3rd quarter
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on August 31, 2017, 11:23:34 pm
Quote from: beach bum on August 31, 2017, 09:25:10 pm
Indiana up by 1 at the beginning of the 3rd quarter
watching the replay now. Indiana played well. Exposed the youth in the Buckeyes secondary. Pulled away in the third quarter with speed. Good win. Lots to work on though with Oklahoma up next.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on September 01, 2017, 06:39:19 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on August 31, 2017, 11:23:34 pm
watching the replay now. Indiana played well. Exposed the youth in the Buckeyes secondary. Pulled away in the third quarter with speed. Good win. Lots to work on though with Oklahoma up next.

That was just a weird game to play week 1 for the Buckeyes.... Indiana was fired up and it showed the first half. It's a 60 minute game and the Buckeyes showed who they were to the Hoosiers eventually.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on September 02, 2017, 09:18:58 am
Lots of games today! Bama or FSU? Xichigan or Florida? Some good games on tap. Enjoy the day.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Longfellow on September 02, 2017, 09:25:35 am
I'm watching one game today. Louisville and Purdue. That's it
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: BigLion10 on September 02, 2017, 09:27:50 am
Quote from: Longfellow on September 02, 2017, 09:25:35 am
I'm watching one game today. Louisville and Purdue. That's it
Boilermakers by 28  ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on September 02, 2017, 10:35:16 am
Quote from: BigLion10 on September 02, 2017, 09:27:50 am
Boilermakers by 28  ;D ;D
wouldn't that be something.

Regarding the big games. Until proven otherwise Bama has too much on both sides of the ball for FSU. Unless there are turnovers by Bama I say they cover the 7 point spread.
Florida probably wins their game if they don't have to suspend all those players. If however they could pull off the win it would be fun seeing Harbaugh squirm. The meltdown that would ensue from the maize and blue crowd would also be something to see.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Longfellow on September 02, 2017, 07:28:33 pm
Quote from: BigLion10 on September 02, 2017, 09:27:50 am
Boilermakers by 28  ;D ;D
#wegotbobby
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on September 02, 2017, 10:07:51 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on September 02, 2017, 07:28:33 pm
#wegotbobby
Purdue is giving them more than they want. Purdue?
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: VHSCoach2 on September 03, 2017, 06:45:10 pm
Florida State QB Deondre Francois is out for the season after tearing his patella tendon in last night's loss to Alabama.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Longfellow on September 03, 2017, 08:50:28 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on September 02, 2017, 10:07:51 pm
Purdue is giving them more than they want. Purdue?
Indiana?
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on September 03, 2017, 09:38:54 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on September 03, 2017, 08:50:28 pm
Indiana?
pretty big difference. Indiana didn't have a chance to tie the game on the last drive. Purdue has been one of the lowest ranked power 5 teams the last five years. Ohio State won by 28 after battling through rust and a fired up home conference team.

Actually really just gigging you. First game rust for lots of teams this week. Jackson still put up big numbers and Bobby got his win.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on September 03, 2017, 10:23:33 pm
aTm just gagged away a 34 point third quarter lead. Yeah, that should dispel the Chavis is a defensive genius talk.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on September 03, 2017, 10:25:28 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on September 03, 2017, 10:23:33 pm
aTm just gagged away a 34 point third quarter lead. Yeah, that should dispel the Chavis is a defensive genius talk.

In all fairness very few teams are capable of coming back like that.... UCLA being one of them because you have to have an elite QB to make a big comeback like that. Rosen is a stud. But exactly how do you choke a lead like that no matter who the other team is?? That was insane.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: sevenof400 on September 04, 2017, 11:17:27 am
Quote from: LRRandy on September 03, 2017, 10:23:33 pm
aTm just gagged away a 34 point third quarter lead. Yeah, that should dispel the Chavis is a defensive genius talk.

That may have been among the most beautiful things I've ever witnessed.
And now, an A&M regent is openly calling for Sumlin's job.  Things are getting interesting in College Station. 
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Chief_Osceola™ on September 04, 2017, 11:49:40 am
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on September 03, 2017, 06:45:10 pm
Florida State QB Deondre Francois is out for the season after tearing his patella tendon in last night's loss to Alabama.

I hate that for him. He's a really tough kid and will rehab like crazy to be ready to go next year. Now we have to depend on a true freshman. Granted, he's a great athlete and can sling it, but there will be some growing pains. Thankfully, the defense is filthy, and we'll lean on them and the stable of 4 and 5* backs to carry the load.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on September 04, 2017, 12:03:05 pm
Quote from: sevenof400 on September 04, 2017, 11:17:27 am
That may have been among the most beautiful things I've ever witnessed.
And now, an A&M regent is openly calling for Sumlin's job.  Things are getting interesting in College Station.
those are the type of comebacks ( collapses ) that make college football so fun. Sumlin may just be gone by the hog game.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on September 04, 2017, 12:05:39 pm
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on September 04, 2017, 11:49:40 am
I hate that for him. He's a really tough kid and will rehab like crazy to be ready to go next year. Now we have to depend on a true freshman. Granted, he's a great athlete and can sling it, but there will be some growing pains. Thankfully, the defense is filthy, and we'll lean on them and the stable of 4 and 5* backs to carry the load.
I agree with you about the injury. It stinks.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on September 04, 2017, 09:34:50 pm
With the stoppage of clock on every first down in the college game and the hurry up offense no 2 score lead is safe until just a couple minutes are left on the clock..... Some of these games have insane momentum swings because the shear number of plays ran on each side. NC State ran 98 plays on South Carolina. That would have been unheard of 20 years ago.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Redwolves8526 on September 05, 2017, 10:14:36 am
Quote from: Legitimate contender on September 04, 2017, 10:09:25 pm
Ga.Tech,is running all over Tennessee.the option is a beautiful site when it's ran to perfection, 409 yards to this point.

Very surprised Tennessee got back into that game and won.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on September 05, 2017, 11:16:29 am
Quote from: Redwolves8526 on September 05, 2017, 10:14:36 am
Very surprised Tennessee got back into that game and won.
G Tech dominated the game with their clock controlling ground game( over 500 yards rushing). Tenn hit big pass plays to stay in the game and then go ahead. Gutsy move going for 2 by G Tech coach. Tenn running back was tough to bring down. A win is a win but Vol fans should be concerned about their defense.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Longfellow on September 06, 2017, 07:55:10 am
Miami cancels game against Arkansas State due to travel concerns from the hurricane
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on September 06, 2017, 10:02:48 am
Quote from: Longfellow on September 06, 2017, 07:55:10 am
Miami cancels game against Arkansas State due to travel concerns from the hurricane
I just saw that. That's a shame for the AState folks but what is headed toward Florida is an even bigger deal.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Redwolves8526 on September 06, 2017, 10:27:01 am
Quote from: LRRandy on September 06, 2017, 10:02:48 am
I just saw that. That's a shame for the AState folks but what is headed toward Florida is an even bigger deal.

Multiple amenities and flight plans were given to Miami from ASU in an effort to try and play the game. But to no avail. I get it, It's just unfortunate.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Chief_Osceola™ on September 06, 2017, 02:02:37 pm
Maybe now that they are not making the trip to Jonesboro, they can afford to finance their indoor practice facility without having to keep the GoFundMe account.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: BigLion10 on September 06, 2017, 02:04:47 pm
I just don't get why Miami wouldn't play the game and get out of harms way. They could stay next week somewhere in Arkansas and prepare for Florida State who knows where they will have to practice down there
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on September 06, 2017, 03:43:10 pm
Quote from: BigLion10 on September 06, 2017, 02:04:47 pm
I just don't get why Miami wouldn't play the game and get out of harms way. They could stay next week somewhere in Arkansas and prepare for Florida State who knows where they will have to practice down there
that's kind of what I thought too.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: mtindian42 on September 06, 2017, 04:16:08 pm
Jonesboro was on fire for this ball game!!! its a shame they want get it

Miami had a good reason tho not to come
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Longfellow on September 09, 2017, 02:20:06 pm
Lamar Jackson goes for 525 total yards and 6 tds. This kid is unreal
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on September 09, 2017, 05:30:13 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on September 09, 2017, 02:20:06 pm
Lamar Jackson goes for 525 total yards and 6 tds. This kid is unreal

If Louisville had a defense they would be terrifying to play. I swear I look away 15 minutes of real time and 3 scores for Louisville just like that and they have the game wrapped up. It's nothing for them to score 3 TD's and only 6 minutes of game time go off the clock. They may go cold in stretches but I don't think any goes that hot that quickly either.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Longfellow on September 09, 2017, 05:41:33 pm
Quote from: beach bum on September 09, 2017, 05:30:13 pm
If Louisville had a defense they would be terrifying to play. I swear I look away 15 minutes of real time and 3 scores for Louisville just like that and they have the game wrapped up. It's nothing for them to score 3 TD's and only 6 minutes of game time go off the clock. They may go cold in stretches but I don't think any goes that hot that quickly either.
This team is still benefitting on the defensive side of the ball from the last couple of Charlie Strong recruiting cycles, but they graduated a lot of talent from one of last year's best defenses. And they graduated 4 of their top 5 receivers and the leading rusher outside of Lamar Jackson. Next week against Clemson will tell us everything we need to know about where Louisville stands
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on September 09, 2017, 05:51:46 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on September 09, 2017, 05:41:33 pm
This team is still benefitting on the defensive side of the ball from the last couple of Charlie Strong recruiting cycles, but they graduated a lot of talent from one of last year's best defenses. And they graduated 4 of their top 5 receivers and the leading rusher outside of Lamar Jackson. Next week against Clemson will tell us everything we need to know about where Louisville stands

Sheesh, I didn't know Clemson has to play Auburn and Louisville back to back. If you ever had the right time to play Clemson it's coming off playing the Auburn defense.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: sevenof400 on September 09, 2017, 05:58:41 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on September 09, 2017, 05:41:33 pm
This team is still benefitting on the defensive side of the ball from the last couple of Charlie Strong recruiting cycles, but they graduated a lot of talent from one of last year's best defenses. And they graduated 4 of their top 5 receivers and the leading rusher outside of Lamar Jackson. Next week against Clemson will tell us everything we need to know about where Louisville stands

I'm not going to be very convinced that a QB is really good by his performances against UNC and Purdue.   
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Longfellow on September 09, 2017, 06:28:14 pm
Quote from: sevenof400 on September 09, 2017, 05:58:41 pm
I'm not going to be very convinced that a QB is really good by his performances against UNC and Purdue.
Yea Heisman trophy winners usually aren't very impressive
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on September 09, 2017, 06:34:13 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on September 09, 2017, 06:28:14 pm
Yea Heisman trophy winners usually aren't very impressive

That is kind of what I was thinking. There is usually 1 or 2 players each season that make the teams they play against look like its a high school game they are in how easy they make it look. He is one of those players. He literally runs circles around some teams like you see in high school or junior high ball. He is that good.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: FoxandHound34 on September 09, 2017, 08:56:53 pm
Quote from: sevenof400 on September 09, 2017, 05:58:41 pm
I'm not going to be very convinced that a QB is really good by his performances against UNC and Purdue.
oh yea I'm sure a RB who plays FAMU or Texas State is more deserving
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: WPWells on September 09, 2017, 10:23:04 pm
Ohio State and Notre Dame just lost on the same night. I love it.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on September 10, 2017, 12:12:26 am
Quote from: WPWells on September 09, 2017, 10:23:04 pm
Ohio State and Notre Dame just lost on the same night. I love it.
that's one of the things that makes college football so much fun. Even if your team has a rough day there is usually the  silver lining of a team that you dislike taking it on the chin. Now if we can just find someone to land an uppercut on Bama.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: sevenof400 on September 10, 2017, 08:12:37 am
Quote from: Longfellow on September 09, 2017, 06:28:14 pm
Yea Heisman trophy winners usually aren't very impressive

Guess what - there are some Heisman Trophy winner who were not that impressive and Jackson is one of them.  Racking up big numbers against overmatched opponents does not make a Heisman candidate in my opinion and that is what Jackson did last year.  Not to mention the fact he really stunk in the last three games - all losses - last year. 
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Longfellow on September 10, 2017, 09:13:03 am
Is it because he doesn't play in the SEC?
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: WPWells on September 16, 2017, 11:35:43 am
I'm very impressed with Memphis so far.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on September 16, 2017, 04:23:44 pm
Quote from: WPWells on September 16, 2017, 11:35:43 am
I'm very impressed with Memphis so far.
nice upset.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on September 16, 2017, 04:26:19 pm
Purdue has opened up a SAMs club deluxe size can of whoopin on  Mizzou. First half. Mizzou has an offense that could get back in the game against woeful Purdue.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on September 16, 2017, 06:03:08 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on September 16, 2017, 04:26:19 pm
Purdue has opened up a SAMs club deluxe size can of whoopin on  Mizzou. First half. Mizzou has an offense that could get back in the game against woeful Purdue.

The bottom of the SEC is absolutely awful... If Arkansas wins anything less than 6 games that is absolutely pathetic. Mizzou and Texas A&M are god awful and we have them both on our schedule.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 16, 2017, 06:08:35 pm
Florida just pulled TEnners heart out and stomped on it
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 16, 2017, 06:11:24 pm
Probably saved Mcelwains job cause Florida is bad offensively.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on September 16, 2017, 06:12:02 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on September 16, 2017, 06:08:35 pm
Florida just pulled TEnners heart out and stomped on it

Butch Jones is toast just like Sumlin..... South Carolina is pretty dang good and Tennessee still has Georgia, LSU, and Alabama on their schedule. Had they not pulled a win out of their behind against Georgia Tech they would have finished 6-6. If he goes 7-5 he is gone in Knoxville.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on September 16, 2017, 06:13:08 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on September 16, 2017, 06:11:24 pm
Probably saved Mcelwains job cause Florida is bad offensively.

I seriously can't believe how bad they have been on offense the last 5 years. They probably could have challenged Alabama once or twice in that time span had they known what any offense is in Gainesville with how good their defense has been.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 16, 2017, 06:19:37 pm
Quote from: beach bum on September 16, 2017, 06:12:02 pm
Butch Jones is toast just like Sumlin..... South Carolina is pretty dang good and Tennessee still has Georgia, LSU, and Alabama on their schedule. Had they not pulled a win out of their behind against Georgia Tech they would have finished 6-6. If he goes 7-5 he is gone in Knoxville.
A lot of coaches in the SEC are close to the door.

Anyone wanna bet Mcelwain cries again sometime this year
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 16, 2017, 06:21:02 pm
But both those teams botched the end of that game.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on September 16, 2017, 06:48:24 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on September 16, 2017, 06:08:35 pm
Florida just pulled TEnners heart out and stomped on it
I loved it. Miserable game. Glad UF won
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 16, 2017, 07:00:47 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on September 16, 2017, 06:48:24 pm
I loved it. Miserable game. Glad UF won
Yeah it was a tough one to watch. TN losing a plus. Even in victory Florida coach looked like someone shot his dog lol

LSU and MSU after a scoreless first half may turn in to a track meet
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on September 16, 2017, 08:17:07 pm
Anyone else seeing Miss State probably about to beat LSU?? I looked at Miss State's schedule and if they can split with Auburn and Georgia coming up they should be sitting at 8-1 going into the Alabama game. Mullens is proving he is the second best coach in the SEC. He does so much with the players he is given in Starkville. He never has two bad years in row either.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on September 16, 2017, 08:51:11 pm
Quote from: beach bum on September 16, 2017, 08:17:07 pm
Anyone else seeing Miss State probably about to beat LSU?? I looked at Miss State's schedule and if they can split with Auburn and Georgia coming up they should be sitting at 8-1 going into the Alabama game. Mullens is proving he is the second best coach in the SEC. He does so much with the players he is given in Starkville. He never has two bad years in row either.
they are making LSU look bad. No discipline by LSU. Is that the mark of an Orgeron coached team?
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on September 16, 2017, 09:45:47 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on September 16, 2017, 08:51:11 pm
they are making LSU look bad. No discipline by LSU. Is that the mark of an Orgeron coached team?

I almost feel bad for the guy cause he was paid so little by SEC power standards with such little financial ramifications if he is fired that if they have a couple lackluster seasons they might can him after 2 years even.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: WPWells on September 16, 2017, 09:53:04 pm
Petrino choking another one off :)
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on September 16, 2017, 09:55:56 pm
Clemson has just thoroughly impressed me. It appears they have just reloaded. The game I watched them against Auburn they are just so massive and fast on defense and they have a QB in place again that looks like he can handle the big games like Watson. It's crazy how well they have recruited the last 5 or 6 years.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: WPWells on September 16, 2017, 10:42:42 pm
Clemson is going back to back.

Remember when Dabo Swinney wanted the Arkansas job and instead we hired Bielema?
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on September 16, 2017, 10:47:46 pm
Quote from: WPWells on September 16, 2017, 10:42:42 pm
Clemson is going back to back.

Remember when Dabo Swinney wanted the Arkansas job and instead we hired Bielema?

Me and you are on the same page.... I am taking Clemson and that defense. No one is beating them in the regular season.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on September 23, 2017, 04:05:45 pm
What was it Vandy was saying about wanting Bama? Be careful what you wish for.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on September 23, 2017, 04:44:35 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on September 23, 2017, 04:05:45 pm
What was it Vandy was saying about wanting Bama? Be careful what you wish for.

The whole stadium is red in Nashville....
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on September 23, 2017, 06:21:38 pm
Oklahoma State has officially been eliminated from the playoff.... Oklahoma is the only team in the Big 12 that can lose a game and have a chance at the playoff.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on September 23, 2017, 09:22:09 pm
Unless Florida has more miracles up their sleeve Kentucky is about to go 2-0 in SEC play AND end 31 straight years of misery of losing to the Gators. I am not even sure that a fine from the SEC is going to deter their fans from running on the field. It's only a 13 point lead with about 10 minutes left, but Florida looks bad on offense.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 23, 2017, 09:36:02 pm
Their offense is horrible. MSU comes back down to earth against UGA.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on September 23, 2017, 09:56:16 pm
Florida may have just ripped their hearts out.... 43 seconds left and they score to take a 1 point lead at 28-27. Kentucky has 2 timeouts and needs to get into FG range fast.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on September 23, 2017, 10:08:09 pm
Kentucky gashed Florida for a big run to get to the 20 to be in field goal range for a walk off FG and a hold was called..... Wow, devastating for sure. They attempt the 56 yard FG and it fell just short.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 24, 2017, 09:52:45 am
Was actually pulling for Kentucky
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on September 24, 2017, 01:35:34 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on September 24, 2017, 09:52:45 am
Was actually pulling for Kentucky

Me too. The Gators have pulled so many games out from their behind the last few years. Their record is so deceiving cause they have won so many close games in that stretch. They aren't as good as their record indicates the last couple years.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 24, 2017, 06:33:18 pm
Quote from: beach bum on September 24, 2017, 01:35:34 pm
Me too. The Gators have pulled so many games out from their behind the last few years. Their record is so deceiving cause they have won so many close games in that stretch. They aren't as good as their record indicates the last couple years.
Thats why Gator fans don't like Mcelwain. He's got some leprechaun luck right now and talent is bailing him out.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Chief_Osceola™ on September 24, 2017, 11:33:38 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on September 24, 2017, 06:33:18 pm
Thats why Gator fans don't like Mcelwain. He's got some leprechaun luck right now and talent is bailing him out.

I hope they keep him around another 20 years.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: bdubyab60 on September 25, 2017, 06:13:58 am
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on September 24, 2017, 11:33:38 pm
I hope they keep him around another 20 years.
I bet you do Chief lol
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: VHSCoach2 on September 30, 2017, 09:43:09 pm
Final from Baton Rouge:

Troy 24, #25 LSU 21.

LSU's first non-conference loss at home since 2000 (UAB) and Troy's first win over an SEC team since 2001 (Mississippi State).
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on September 30, 2017, 10:54:16 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on September 30, 2017, 09:43:09 pm
Final from Baton Rouge:

Troy 24, #25 LSU 21.

LSU's first non-conference loss at home since 2000 (UAB) and Troy's first win over an SEC team since 2001 (Mississippi State).
shocking loss
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: sevenof400 on October 01, 2017, 07:40:52 am
That sinking sound you hear is Ed Orgeron's head coaching career...
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: VHSCoach2 on October 01, 2017, 10:40:28 am
Ed Orgeron's career record as a full-time head coach: 13-29.
Ed Orgeron's career record as an interim head coach: 12-4.

Perhaps LSU should fire head coach Ed Orgeron and hire interim coach Ed Orgeron?
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on October 24, 2017, 08:47:13 pm
I guess the Razorbacks being really bad had everyone kind of quiet this season. Not a lot of chatter about the season. I think part of it is Alabama being so dominate over the entire sec no one has hope at the present time. The sec is so down even valleysports is too embarrassed  to come on here and argue. Even he finally sees the truth. I know what will cheer you up. Penn St. winning Saturday over the fighting Urban Meyers. Since Ohio State is going to win the board will remain quiet. I kinda miss the back and forth. At the halfway point my adjusted playoff four are:
Ohio State
Bama
Oklahoma
Notre Dame
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on October 24, 2017, 08:53:37 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on October 24, 2017, 08:47:13 pm
I guess the Razorbacks being really bad had everyone kind of quiet this season. Not a lot of chatter about the season. I think part of it is Alabama being so dominate over the entire sec no one has hope at the present time. The sec is so down even valleysports is too embarrassed  to come on here and argue. Even he finally sees the truth. I know what will cheer you up. Penn St. winning Saturday over the fighting Urban Meyers. Since Ohio State is going to win the board will remain quiet. I kinda miss the back and forth. At the halfway point my adjusted playoff four are:
Ohio State
Bama
Oklahoma
Notre Dame

The final 4 are going to end up two SEC teams and two Big Ten teams.... Bama, Georgia... Then two of the three between Penn State, Wisconsin, and Ohio State. The Buckeyes got to win Saturday or its over though. I think as long as Penn State or Wisconsin finish with just 1 loss that is less than 7 points they can get in too. I think Georgia will only lose by 7-10 to Bama too and sneak in too..... I predict Notre Dame, TCU, Oklahoma, Miami, and Clemson will all lose 1 more game and the SEC and Big Ten teams I mentioned above get in. The Pac 12 has a handful of good teams but nobody shining. Had Arizona played that video game-ish quarterback at the beginning of the year they would be undefeated. I think their 2 losses were by a combined 9 points without him. They certainly would have won those with him.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on October 24, 2017, 09:47:16 pm
Quote from: beach bum on October 24, 2017, 08:53:37 pm
The final 4 are going to end up two SEC teams and two Big Ten teams.... Bama, Georgia... Then two of the three between Penn State, Wisconsin, and Ohio State. The Buckeyes got to win Saturday or its over though. I think as long as Penn State or Wisconsin finish with just 1 loss that is less than 7 points they can get in too. I think Georgia will only lose by 7-10 to Bama too and sneak in too..... I predict Notre Dame, TCU, Oklahoma, Miami, and Clemson will all lose 1 more game and the SEC and Big Ten teams I mentioned above get in. The Pac 12 has a handful of good teams but nobody shining. Had Arizona played that video game-ish quarterback at the beginning of the year they would be undefeated. I think their 2 losses were by a combined 9 points without him. They certainly would have won those with him.
two teams from two conferences in the playoff shutting out the rest of the country. That would have folks in an uproar. Do you think the usual suspects continuing to be in the playoff diminishes interest any?
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on October 24, 2017, 09:49:38 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on October 24, 2017, 09:47:16 pm
two teams from two conferences in the playoff shutting out the rest of the country. That would have folks in an uproar. Do you think the usual suspects continuing to be in the playoff diminishes interest any?

I think you actually make a fair point.... I think me and you don't mind it one bit, but I think others are getting sick of Ohio State and Alabama lol.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on October 24, 2017, 09:55:26 pm
Quote from: beach bum on October 24, 2017, 09:49:38 pm
I think you actually make a fair point.... I think me and you don't mind it one bit, but I think others are getting sick of Ohio State and Alabama lol.
yes, I am sure sick of Alabama 😀
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: VHSCoach2 on October 25, 2017, 11:06:33 am
Quote from: beach bum on October 24, 2017, 08:53:37 pm
The final 4 are going to end up two SEC teams and two Big Ten teams.... Bama, Georgia... Then two of the three between Penn State, Wisconsin, and Ohio State. The Buckeyes got to win Saturday or its over though. I think as long as Penn State or Wisconsin finish with just 1 loss that is less than 7 points they can get in too. I think Georgia will only lose by 7-10 to Bama too and sneak in too..... I predict Notre Dame, TCU, Oklahoma, Miami, and Clemson will all lose 1 more game and the SEC and Big Ten teams I mentioned above get in. The Pac 12 has a handful of good teams but nobody shining. Had Arizona played that video game-ish quarterback at the beginning of the year they would be undefeated. I think their 2 losses were by a combined 9 points without him. They certainly would have won those with him.

I think TCU may have something to say about the Top 4. I don't think they will be beaten by anyone in the Big 12.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Chief_Osceola™ on October 25, 2017, 11:18:26 am
I'm done with college football this year.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/d9520d4e15552abc3cf966be7737b486/tenor.gif?itemid=4844179)

Staff changes better be coming at season's end.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on October 25, 2017, 04:12:16 pm
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on October 25, 2017, 11:18:26 am
I'm done with college football this year.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/d9520d4e15552abc3cf966be7737b486/tenor.gif?itemid=4844179)

Staff changes better be coming at season's end.
losing the QB didn't help. That's pretty frustrating.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Longfellow on October 25, 2017, 04:23:14 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on October 25, 2017, 04:12:16 pm
losing the QB didn't help. That's pretty frustrating.
I'd hope they don't fire Jimbo Fisher. That would be the biggest mistake they could make
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on October 25, 2017, 04:55:24 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on October 25, 2017, 04:23:14 pm
I'd hope they don't fire Jimbo Fisher. That would be the biggest mistake they could make
that would be the dumbest coaching change I have ever seen if they do that. I do wonder though why the defense hasn't been all world like they were being touted. The two safeties are supposedly the best in college. Are they mailing it in?
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Chief_Osceola™ on October 26, 2017, 12:49:08 pm
I don't want Jimbo out, and there's no way he'll be fired. I think his buyout is something like 40 million. FSU has 3 glaring problems - the defense, the offensive line, and a true freshman quarterback running a really complex system. 2 of those can be fixed with coaching changes.  The other will take care of itself next year.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: VHSCoach2 on October 28, 2017, 05:54:43 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on October 25, 2017, 11:06:33 am
I think TCU may have something to say about the Top 4. I don't think they will be beaten by anyone in the Big 12.

Iowa State just proved me wrong. The road to the Big 12 title now goes through Ames, Iowa.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on October 28, 2017, 07:01:02 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on October 28, 2017, 05:54:43 pm
Iowa State just proved me wrong. The road to the Big 12 title now goes through Ames, Iowa.
its a crazy season. The kind of crazy that could get two sec teams in the playoff.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: VHSCoach2 on October 29, 2017, 12:56:43 pm
Jim McElwain fired at Florida.

Randy Shannon will interim the remainder of the season.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: HorseFeathers on October 29, 2017, 02:07:57 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on October 29, 2017, 12:56:43 pm
Jim McElwain fired at Florida.

Randy Shannon will interim the remainder of the season.

I want to get paid to not coach a team....and I'll do it cheaper than any of these guys do
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on October 29, 2017, 03:26:02 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on October 29, 2017, 12:56:43 pm
Jim McElwain fired at Florida.

Randy Shannon will interim the remainder of the season.
how about that. His " death threat" proclamation gave Florida an eas/inexpensive  way out.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: J.D. on November 01, 2017, 03:46:43 pm
Butch Jones may be next.  Allegedly put a player's health in jeopardy by allowing him to play while apparently showing symptoms of a concussion.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Chief_Osceola™ on November 01, 2017, 04:20:16 pm
Quote from: J.D. on November 01, 2017, 03:46:43 pm
Butch Jones may be next.  Allegedly put a player's health in jeopardy by allowing him to play while apparently showing symptoms of a concussion.

No! He's building life champions who take lots of leadership reps.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: HorseFeathers on November 01, 2017, 04:28:18 pm
Quote from: J.D. on November 01, 2017, 03:46:43 pm
Butch Jones may be next.  Allegedly put a player's health in jeopardy by allowing him to play while apparently showing symptoms of a concussion.

I'm suprised he still has a job as it is...
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on November 11, 2017, 09:24:40 am
How about wins by Auburn and Miss. St. today. Wouldn't that be fun.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: sevenof400 on November 11, 2017, 09:46:26 am
Quote from: LRRandy on November 11, 2017, 09:24:40 am
How about wins by Auburn and Miss. St. today. Wouldn't that be fun.

Um....no
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on November 11, 2017, 10:11:06 am
Quote from: sevenof400 on November 11, 2017, 09:46:26 am
Um....no
oh now, where's your sense of adventure? 😀
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Longfellow on November 11, 2017, 10:59:12 am
Quote from: LRRandy on November 11, 2017, 10:11:06 am
oh now, where's your sense of adventure? 😀
If Auburn wins out, they will make the playoff.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: sevenof400 on November 11, 2017, 12:11:33 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on November 11, 2017, 10:11:06 am
oh now, where's your sense of adventure? 😀

There's a feeling I get when Auburn wins, and it ain't one of adventure......
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: sevenof400 on November 11, 2017, 12:19:43 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on November 11, 2017, 10:59:12 am
If Auburn wins out, they will make the playoff.

Not so fast there Longfellow because many other things would have to occur - but I agree it is possible.

If a 2 loss Auburn wins the SECCG, they will have beaten Georgia twice and that might be enough to overcome the LSU loss.  (The Clemson loss is not nearly as large or a problem). But if Alabama is sitting with only one loss, they would likely go before Auburn.  Clemson would likely go as well (assuming they win out).  ND still has a hold on a playoff spot and (at this point, as much as I hate to say it) so does Oklahoma.  And what of Wisconsin and Miami?

I will say this - a 2 loss Auburn team as SEC Champion means only 1 (at most) SEC team makes it to the playoffs.  But even more possible is NO SEC team makes it....
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on November 11, 2017, 12:52:31 pm
Quote from: sevenof400 on November 11, 2017, 12:11:33 pm
There's a feeling I get when Auburn wins, and it ain't one of adventure......
I can respect that. Certain teams give me that feeling also.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on November 11, 2017, 02:33:25 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on November 11, 2017, 09:24:40 am
How about wins by Auburn and Miss. St. today. Wouldn't that be fun.

One of them is going to win tonight I believe... People can call me crazy, but Bama is about to lose one of their upcoming games before title game even. They are dinged up on defense like never before. I know they just have more 4 stars to plug in, but I believe this schedule pile up of Miss State, Auburn, the SEC title game, and the semifinal will be too much and someone will snag them when they are hot one of those games.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on November 11, 2017, 05:05:52 pm
And on that note Auburn is beating UGA 30-7... They're really going to have to screw things up now to lose this.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: sevenof400 on November 11, 2017, 05:38:40 pm
Is that Georgia being Georgia I see?
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on November 11, 2017, 06:14:28 pm
I know I am just dreaming, but I am hoping the final 4 ends up being Auburn(winning out), Alabama(loses to Auburn and drops to 3 or 4), Miami(wins out including tonight over the Irish and Clemson in the ACC title game knocking those two teams out of contention in the process), and Wisconsin(just win out and they will be in by default of everyone losing..... TCU and Oklahoma split to knock them both out of contention.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on November 11, 2017, 06:19:25 pm
Quote from: sevenof400 on November 11, 2017, 05:38:40 pm
Is that Georgia being Georgia I see?
one down, one to go.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on November 11, 2017, 06:50:48 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 11, 2017, 06:14:28 pm
I know I am just dreaming, but I am hoping the final 4 ends up being Auburn(winning out), Alabama(loses to Auburn and drops to 3 or 4), Miami(wins out including tonight over the Irish and Clemson in the ACC title game knocking those two teams out of contention in the process), and Wisconsin(just win out and they will be in by default of everyone losing..... TCU and Oklahoma split to knock them both out of contention.
three of those wouldn't offend me. I would really like to see Bama sit out a few years.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on November 11, 2017, 08:19:14 pm
Miss. St. playing a tough game. Long drive converting 3rd downs in the third quarter is not something Bama is used to happening to them. Of course, they really haven't played anybody.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on November 11, 2017, 08:35:41 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on November 11, 2017, 08:19:14 pm
Miss. St. playing a tough game. Long drive converting 3rd downs in the third quarter is not something Bama is used to happening to them. Of course, they really haven't played anybody.

Miss State has had 2/3 of the time of possession.... This has been crazy. Now 24-17 with 14 minutes left.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: sevenof400 on November 11, 2017, 08:41:56 pm
Who said it earlier - injuries have decimated the Alabama depth - is exactly spot on.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: sevenof400 on November 11, 2017, 08:48:14 pm
Got to love the Convicts tonight....
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on November 11, 2017, 08:55:24 pm
Quote from: sevenof400 on November 11, 2017, 08:48:14 pm
Got to love the Convicts tonight....

Wow, just wow. They top 4 is about to be shook up..... imo on Tuesday you will see (1)Clemson (2)Miami (3)Oklahoma (4) Alabama (5) Wisconsin .... That is if Alabama loses. They may actually have Wiscy at 4 maybe and Bama at 5, but I think they'll keep Bama in at 4 even with a loss.  If Alabama wins then keep them at (1) and bump everybody back 1 spot that I have here.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: VHSCoach2 on November 11, 2017, 08:56:53 pm
If Mississippi State holds on, I believe this will be the first time that #1, #2, and #3 have all lost on the same weekend.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: sevenof400 on November 11, 2017, 08:57:11 pm
That's better.  Someone other than Hurts can run the ball...
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on November 11, 2017, 08:58:34 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 11, 2017, 08:55:24 pm
Wow, just wow. They top 4 is about to be shook up..... imo on Tuesday you will see (1)Clemson (2)Miami (3)Oklahoma (4) Alabama (5) Wisconsin .... That is if Alabama loses. They may actually have Wiscy at 4 maybe and Bama at 5, but I think they'll keep Bama in at 4 even with a loss.  If Alabama wins then keep them at (1) and bump everybody back 1 spot that I have here.
c'mon State. Bring the chaos! Dump Bama!  It's fun seeing someone compete with Bama.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on November 11, 2017, 08:59:59 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on November 11, 2017, 09:24:40 am
How about wins by Auburn and Miss. St. today. Wouldn't that be fun.

We're going to have to start taking your word a little more serious....
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: VHSCoach2 on November 11, 2017, 09:05:20 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on November 11, 2017, 08:56:53 pm
If Mississippi State holds on, I believe this will be the first time that #1, #2, and #3 have all lost on the same weekend.

I stand corrected. It happened in 1965.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on November 11, 2017, 09:13:15 pm
Doink. C'mon State
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: VHSCoach2 on November 11, 2017, 09:15:24 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on November 11, 2017, 09:13:15 pm
Doink. C'mon State

Welp...
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on November 11, 2017, 09:24:19 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on November 11, 2017, 09:15:24 pm
Welp...
yup.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: sevenof400 on November 11, 2017, 09:24:44 pm
Keith Jackson, if you please...
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: sevenof400 on November 11, 2017, 09:25:56 pm
Or Eli Gold..
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on November 11, 2017, 09:32:10 pm
That stinks... If Auburn plays a clean game in 2 weeks they can beat Alabama though.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on November 11, 2017, 09:32:40 pm
I've enjoyed the last hour or so watching Miss. St. put a scare in Bama. Champions rise to the occasion.  Great effort Bulldogs. Good win for Bama. Fun night.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: sevenof400 on November 11, 2017, 10:05:13 pm
It's always fun when the Irish are exposed!
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on November 11, 2017, 10:41:10 pm
Quote from: sevenof400 on November 11, 2017, 10:05:13 pm
It's always fun when the Irish are exposed!
here, here. Growing up in Ohio with a catholic parish in every neighborhood I learned to cheer against the Irish at a young age. Was surrounded by Notre Dame fans.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: sevenof400 on November 12, 2017, 07:29:04 am
Quote from: beach bum on November 11, 2017, 09:32:10 pm
That stinks... If Auburn plays a clean game in 2 weeks they can beat Alabama though.

Alabama needs some players back from the injured list - and soon - on the defensive side. 

A repeat of history is now very much a possibility - if Auburn was to win the Iron Bowl, Alabama would still be a strong favorite to make the CFP.  That brings the possibility of an Iron Bowl rematch on the National Championship game similar to the LSU - Alabama rematch of a few years ago for the NC. 

That would be an epic chapter in this rivalry. 
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: AirWarren on November 12, 2017, 08:38:35 am
ITS ALL ABOUT THE U.....THE U......THE U.......ITS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on November 12, 2017, 11:55:35 am
Quote from: AirWarren on November 12, 2017, 08:38:35 am
ITS ALL ABOUT THE U.....THE U......THE U.......ITS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!!!!!

I can not believe I now root for Miami... Mark Richt is a good guy that genuinely does things the right way. Got to like a coach like him. Never a bad word out of his mouth about other teams or his players personally. Got to love character like his.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Chief_Osceola™ on November 12, 2017, 05:37:48 pm
You'd think whoever determines rankings, whether it be the coaches, AP, or whoever, would figure out one of these days that Norte Dame is never as good as people think. They got exposed in a big way last night. I'm just glad it happened now instead of in January.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: WPWells on November 12, 2017, 05:52:43 pm
Revised playoff prediction (based on past results and future predictions):

1. Clemson (ACC Champion)
2. Georgia (defeats Auburn in SECCG)
3. Wisconsin (Big 10 Champion)
4. Miami (ACC Runner-Up to Clemson)
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Longfellow on November 12, 2017, 06:52:48 pm
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on November 12, 2017, 05:37:48 pm
You'd think whoever determines rankings, whether it be the coaches, AP, or whoever, would figure out one of these days that Norte Dame is never as good as people think. They got exposed in a big way last night. I'm just glad it happened now instead of in January.
Well they're having a pretty good season for a school who was supposed to struggle to get to a bowl game
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: sevenof400 on November 12, 2017, 09:33:52 pm
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on November 12, 2017, 05:37:48 pm
You'd think whoever determines rankings, whether it be the coaches, AP, or whoever, would figure out one of these days that Norte Dame is never as good as people think. They got exposed in a big way last night. I'm just glad it happened now instead of in January.

I like the last January exposure of the Frauding Irish....
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: sevenof400 on November 12, 2017, 09:34:57 pm
Quote from: WPWells on November 12, 2017, 05:52:43 pm
Revised playoff prediction (based on past results and future predictions):

1. Clemson (ACC Champion)
2. Georgia (defeats Auburn in SECCG)
3. Wisconsin (Big 10 Champion)
4. Miami (ACC Runner-Up to Clemson)
How would you put Miami in over Alabama?
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Chief_Osceola™ on November 12, 2017, 10:04:39 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on November 12, 2017, 06:52:48 pm
Well they're having a pretty good season for a school who was supposed to struggle to get to a bowl game

Who have they beaten??

Miami is not great - they are having a good year, yes, but they will get exposed either by Clemson or the first playoff game should they make it.  I have a conundrum though; I like Richt, but I hate Miami.

Truth be told, I think college football as a whole is down this year.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on November 12, 2017, 10:13:21 pm
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on November 12, 2017, 10:04:39 pm
Who have they beaten??

Miami is not great - they are having a good year, yes, but they will get exposed either by Clemson or the first playoff game should they make it.  I have a conundrum though; I like Richt, but I hate Miami.

Truth be told, I think college football as a whole is down this year.

There have been some analysts saying that this is the worst they have seen Alabama in a while... yet here they are sitting at 10-0.... I think they'll lose eventually. For their sake they better hope its before the playoffs and they get a bad performance out of the way. If they just lose by a narrow margin to Auburn or Georgia in the SEC title Bama is getting in still.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on November 13, 2017, 09:50:03 am
Quote from: WPWells on November 12, 2017, 05:52:43 pm
Revised playoff prediction (based on past results and future predictions):

1. Clemson (ACC Champion)
2. Georgia (defeats Auburn in SECCG)
3. Wisconsin (Big 10 Champion)
4. Miami (ACC Runner-Up to Clemson)
or......

Undefeated ACC champ Miami

Undefeated SEC champ Bama

One loss Big 12 champ Oklahoma

And

Two loss B1G champ Ohio State.

I'm not sayin'. I'm just sayin.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: VHSCoach2 on November 21, 2017, 02:14:58 pm
Here is the list of current bowl-eligible teams:

SEC: Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Texas A&M, Mississippi State, Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky, Missouri (9)
Big Ten: Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Iowa (7)
Pac-12: Southern California, Arizona State, Arizona, Washington, Stanford, Oregon, Washington State (7)
Big 12: Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, TCU, Texas, Kansas State, West Virginia, Iowa State (7)
ACC: Clemson, Louisville, North Carolina State, Boston College, Wake Forest, Miami (FL), Virginia Tech, Virginia - 8
Independents: Notre Dame, Army (2)
AAC: South Florida, Central Florida, Houston, Memphis, Navy, Southern Methodist (6)
MWC: Colorado State, Boise State, Wyoming, Utah State, San Diego State, Fresno State (6)
MAC: Toledo, Western Michigan, Northern Illinois, Central Michigan, Ohio, Akron (6)
CUSA: Western Kentucky, Marshall, Florida Atlantic, Florida International, Texas-San Antonio, Southern Mississippi, North Texas, Alabama-Birmingham - 8
SBC: Appalachian State, Arkansas State, Troy, Georgia State (4)

78 teams are needed to fill the bowl slots this season. 70 currently qualify. We may get a bowl season with no 5-7 teams!
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on November 26, 2017, 11:35:49 am
Bama might just miss the playoff. Without a championship game to play and their best wins being middling LSU and Miss St the resume may hold them back even with only one loss.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on November 26, 2017, 11:44:14 am
Quote from: LRRandy on November 26, 2017, 11:35:49 am
Bama might just miss the playoff. Without a championship game to play and their best wins being middling LSU and Miss St the resume may hold them back even with only one loss.

I sadly believe they will back door their way into the playoff.... The odds of Clemson, Wisconsin, and Oklahoma all winning next week are statistically not likely. It can happen but just playing the odds is what I am saying because all they need is that one of the three to lose. They just need to be rooting for one of Miami, TCU, and Ohio State to pull a win. Alabama is getting in before Miami, Ohio State, and TCU sadly.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on November 26, 2017, 01:20:13 pm
Dan Mullen is leaving for Florida and Greg Schiano is headed to Knoxville.... Wonder who lands at Miss State now and who Arkansas gets in the coming weeks. Miss State will be good again next year, but this could hit them for the future.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 26, 2017, 01:41:37 pm
Think a lot of folks saw Mullen to FL coming. Schiano to Tenner is a surprise. Vol fans will not be with that hire. The Gruden stuff is a pipe dream, he doesn't want to coach anymore.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 26, 2017, 04:00:40 pm
Tenner fans about to riot. Schiano now backing out of the deal due to not liking the climate and reaction he is seeing. Congressman and reps getting involved as well. Can't say I blame them
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on November 26, 2017, 04:07:58 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on November 26, 2017, 04:00:40 pm
Tenner fans about to riot. Schiano now backing out of the deal due to not liking the climate and reaction he is seeing. Congressman and reps getting involved as well. Can't say I blame them

Lol seriously?? I can't blame him for running for the hills away from the deal.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: VHSCoach2 on November 26, 2017, 04:19:56 pm
Here is an updated list of coaching openings/positions filled through the end of the regular season:

Nebraska:
Previous Coach - Mike Riley: Fired
New Coach - ???

Arkansas:
Previous Coach - Bret Bielema: Fired
New Coach - ???

UCLA:
Previous Coach - Jim Mora, Jr.: Fired
New Coach - Chip Kelly

Tennessee:
Previous Coach - Butch Jones: Fired
New Coach - ???

Florida:
Previous Coach - Jim McElwain: Fired
New Coach - Dan Mullen

Georgia Southern:
Previous Coach - Tyson Summers: Fired
New Coach - ???

Oregon State:
Previous Coach - Gary Andersen: Resigned
New Coach - Beau Baldwin

Texas-El Paso:
Previous Coach - Sean Kugler: Resigned
New Coach - ???

Ole Miss:
Previous Coach - Hugh Freeze: Fired
New Coach - Matt Luke (was interim coach for the 2017 season)

Texas A&M:
Previous Coach - Kevin Sumlin: Fired
Interim Coach - Jeff Banks
New Coach - ???

Arizona State:
Previous Coach: Todd Graham: Fired
Interim Coach - "Current coaches will coach the Bowl Game"
New Coach - ???
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 26, 2017, 04:20:50 pm
Quote from: beach bum on November 26, 2017, 04:07:58 pm
Lol seriously?? I can't blame him for running for the hills away from the deal.
Yeah I read the tweets from the rep. Really not the homerun hire they wanted and the fact he turned a blind eye to the Sandusky stuff at penn st
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Romeo on November 26, 2017, 04:31:32 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on November 26, 2017, 04:00:40 pm
Tenner fans about to riot. Schiano now backing out of the deal due to not liking the climate and reaction he is seeing. Congressman and reps getting involved as well. Can’t say I blame them

I've never seen so much fan backlash over a potential hire. There's no way the AD's going go forward hiring Schiano. This might cost him his job as well.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: sevenof400 on November 26, 2017, 04:43:11 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on November 26, 2017, 11:35:49 am
Bama might just miss the playoff. Without a championship game to play and their best wins being middling LSU and Miss St the resume may hold them back even with only one loss.

Well, I hate that it has come to this but even in my most ardent stance, I saw the toll injuries took on Alabama's defense.  And I have to say this is NOT one of the better versions of an offensive line - but then again, few lines of recent vintage will compare to the lines Alabama has had recently - Barrett Jones, Chance Warmack, and William Viachaos (and many more) were  road graders.  I don't think the current line can match that standard and that is why the running game is not as dominant as it once was. 

Now shockingly - I know - I am going to disagree with Randy to an extent here.  The committee has in the past looked hard at many factors - strength of schedule being one of them - but they have also looked at injuries as well.  Alabama's defense was wrecked with injuries this season and with some of those players due back for a bowl game or NCP game, the injury situation will likely be in Alabama's favor. 

Alabama's schedule had (what was thought to be) a NC contender in Florida State as their major OOC opponent but as we all know now, Florida State was not at that level this year.  The SEC West though still has TWO teams in the NC hunt, and Alabama is still only a 1 loss team (and that loss is to a very hot Auburn team).  So, here's the picture I am seeing at present:

Auburn vs Georgia:  winner goes to NC Playoff, loser is out
Miami vs Clemson: winner goes to the NC Playoff, loser is out
That definitely accounts for two spots in the playoffs.

Wisconsin and Oklahoma are both in with a win, and out with a loss. 

Alabama should be rated #5 this week in the CFP rankings, but as long as they are in a group with Georgia and Miami it really does not matter if they are 5, 6 or 7 (though I'd certainly feel better the higher they were ranked). 

If ONE of Wisconsin or Oklahoma loses, Alabama should be in.  Wisconsin's schedule was awful this year and that will haunt them if they lose to Ohio State.

So the question here becomes what if Ohio State beats Wisconsin, is that enough to overcome Alabama? 

Obviously, I am going to say no and I'm sure Randy is going to take the opposite point of view. 

A 2 loss Ohio State that would (in this scenario) be the Big 10 (,er 12) conference champions but with 2 losses (Iowa and Oklahoma) and the Iowa loss a real dagger to their resume. And the Big 10 really isn't doing THAT well - as a conference - overall this year either.  But, in Ohio State's favor, they would have played both Penn State and Wisconsin.  It is worth repeating the Big 10 has the same issue the SEC does this year with three teams significantly above the rest of the conference.     

I think it is fair to say the Ohio State loss to Oklahoma and the Alabama loss to Auburn pretty much cancel each other out. 

So Ohio State would have a conference championship BUT an extra loss - and a bad one at that.
Alabama would NOT have a conference championship but would have a better record. 
The conferences OVERALL are about the same (see above) but Alabama did NOT play Georgia this year (which does hurt).
Alabama has carried the #1 rating for most of the year. 

I still believe the case is better for Alabama to make it in over Ohio State, but I would not be shocked to see the opposite IF this scenario comes to pass.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: bdubyab60 on November 26, 2017, 04:48:46 pm
Quote from: Romeo on November 26, 2017, 04:31:32 pm
I've never seen so much fan backlash over a potential hire. There's no way the AD's going go forward hiring Schiano. This might cost him his job as well.
Crazy ain't it
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Romeo on November 26, 2017, 07:46:28 pm
Goodness. I thought our situation was the biggest dumpster fire. Tennessee is backing out of the deal but had already signed a memorandum of understanding, so they'll probably owe Schiano some kind of money.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on November 26, 2017, 07:48:20 pm
Quote from: Romeo on November 26, 2017, 07:46:28 pm
Goodness. I thought our situation was the biggest dumpster fire. Tennessee is backing out of the deal but had already signed a memorandum of understanding, so they'll probably owe Schiano some kind of money.

And be stuck with Lane Kiffin round 2  ;D
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Romeo on November 26, 2017, 08:01:15 pm
That's what they might end up getting. This whole controversy with Schiano and Penn State is not really fair to him. Its based off deposition from Mike McQueary who claimed a former assistant coach told him that Schiano came to his office and saw Jerry Sandusky doing something to a boy in the shower. Its important to note that the prosecution dismissed that as unreliable hearsay. Schiano has never been charged or sued in that case. Tennessee fans are basically using that as an excuse. If Nick Saban was going to Tennessee with the same allegation, they would care less.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on November 26, 2017, 09:29:34 pm
Quote from: sevenof400 on November 26, 2017, 04:43:11 pm
Well, I hate that it has come to this but even in my most ardent stance, I saw the toll injuries took on Alabama's defense.  And I have to say this is NOT one of the better versions of an offensive line - but then again, few lines of recent vintage will compare to the lines Alabama has had recently - Barrett Jones, Chance Warmack, and William Viachaos (and many more) were  road graders.  I don't think the current line can match that standard and that is why the running game is not as dominant as it once was. 

Now shockingly - I know - I am going to disagree with Randy to an extent here.  The committee has in the past looked hard at many factors - strength of schedule being one of them - but they have also looked at injuries as well.  Alabama's defense was wrecked with injuries this season and with some of those players due back for a bowl game or NCP game, the injury situation will likely be in Alabama's favor. 

Alabama's schedule had (what was thought to be) a NC contender in Florida State as their major OOC opponent but as we all know now, Florida State was not at that level this year.  The SEC West though still has TWO teams in the NC hunt, and Alabama is still only a 1 loss team (and that loss is to a very hot Auburn team).  So, here's the picture I am seeing at present:

Auburn vs Georgia:  winner goes to NC Playoff, loser is out
Miami vs Clemson: winner goes to the NC Playoff, loser is out
That definitely accounts for two spots in the playoffs.

Wisconsin and Oklahoma are both in with a win, and out with a loss. 

Alabama should be rated #5 this week in the CFP rankings, but as long as they are in a group with Georgia and Miami it really does not matter if they are 5, 6 or 7 (though I'd certainly feel better the higher they were ranked). 

If ONE of Wisconsin or Oklahoma loses, Alabama should be in.  Wisconsin's schedule was awful this year and that will haunt them if they lose to Ohio State.

So the question here becomes what if Ohio State beats Wisconsin, is that enough to overcome Alabama? 

Obviously, I am going to say no and I'm sure Randy is going to take the opposite point of view. 

A 2 loss Ohio State that would (in this scenario) be the Big 10 (,er 12) conference champions but with 2 losses (Iowa and Oklahoma) and the Iowa loss a real dagger to their resume. And the Big 10 really isn't doing THAT well - as a conference - overall this year either.  But, in Ohio State's favor, they would have played both Penn State and Wisconsin.  It is worth repeating the Big 10 has the same issue the SEC does this year with three teams significantly above the rest of the conference.     

I think it is fair to say the Ohio State loss to Oklahoma and the Alabama loss to Auburn pretty much cancel each other out. 

So Ohio State would have a conference championship BUT an extra loss - and a bad one at that.
Alabama would NOT have a conference championship but would have a better record. 
The conferences OVERALL are about the same (see above) but Alabama did NOT play Georgia this year (which does hurt).
Alabama has carried the #1 rating for most of the year. 

I still believe the case is better for Alabama to make it in over Ohio State, but I would not be shocked to see the opposite IF this scenario comes to pass.
I think if Georgia wins that will hurt Alabama. Alabama doesn't quite have the eye test it has had in years past. Ohio State will have better wins than Bama when they beat Wisconsin but the debacle at Iowa may be the death blow. I think a conference championship and wins over two top ten teams should get them in but that 2 in the loss column may in fact keep them out. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

My son and I were driving to Memphis to watch a high school basketball game while the Iron bowl was going on. We agreed that even though an undefeated Alabama presented a more direct path to the playoff for our Buckeyes we still found great joy in listening to Alabama lose. It brought such joy. One of the reasons I love college football.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: VHSCoach2 on November 26, 2017, 09:52:13 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on November 26, 2017, 09:29:34 pm
I think if Georgia wins that will hurt Alabama. Alabama doesn't quite have the eye test it has had in years past. Ohio State will have better wins than Bama when they beat Wisconsin but the debacle at Iowa may be the death blow. I think a conference championship and wins over two top ten teams should get them in but that 2 in the loss column may in fact keep them out. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

My son and I were driving to Memphis to watch a high school basketball game while the Iron bowl was going on. We agreed that even though an undefeated Alabama presented a more direct path to the playoff for our Buckeyes we still found great joy in listening to Alabama lose. It brought such joy. One of the reasons I love college football.

(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/96/9651e121dac222fdac699ca6d962b84f288c75e6ec120f4a06e3c04f139ee8ec.jpg)
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on November 26, 2017, 10:46:40 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on November 26, 2017, 09:52:13 pm
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/96/9651e121dac222fdac699ca6d962b84f288c75e6ec120f4a06e3c04f139ee8ec.jpg)
lol. True. Wisconsin defense is real.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: VHSCoach2 on December 01, 2017, 12:35:32 pm
Jimbo Fisher is leaving Florida State and will be the new head coach at Texas A&M.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Chief_Osceola™ on December 01, 2017, 01:16:37 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on December 01, 2017, 12:35:32 pm
Jimbo Fisher is leaving Florida State and will be the new head coach at Texas A&M.

Bye Felecia.

Willie Taggart, come on down!  Ready to jump on the Swag-gart train!
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: AirWarren on December 01, 2017, 01:55:11 pm
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on December 01, 2017, 01:16:37 pm
Bye Felecia.

Willie Taggart, come on down!  Ready to jump on the Swag-gart train!

The new king of Florida has been crowned. To original home.


The U.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Chief_Osceola™ on December 01, 2017, 01:58:50 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 01, 2017, 01:55:11 pm
The new king of Florida has been crowned. To original home.


The U.

Bwahahahahaha!

Well, they are this year. If we get Taggart though, Richt better start trying to build a literal fence around South Florida. Willie's gonna be coming for those SoFla kids!

Really though, I'm happy for Richt. He's a good dude, and while I hate the Canes, I respect them. I just flat-out hate the gators.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: VHSCoach2 on December 01, 2017, 02:01:52 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 01, 2017, 01:55:11 pm
The new king of Florida has been crowned. To original home.


The UCF.

Fixed it for you.  :)
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: AirWarren on December 01, 2017, 02:11:30 pm
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on December 01, 2017, 01:58:50 pm
Bwahahahahaha!

Well, they are this year. If we get Taggart though, Richt better start trying to build a literal fence around South Florida. Willie's gonna be coming for those SoFla kids!

Really though, I'm happy for Richt. He's a good dude, and while I hate the Canes, I respect them. I just flat-out hate the gators.

There is Hogs, Gators, and Canes gear all through my home :D
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: AirWarren on December 01, 2017, 02:11:47 pm
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on December 01, 2017, 02:01:52 pm
Fixed it for you.  :)

Puke!!!!!
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Chief_Osceola™ on December 01, 2017, 02:39:22 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on December 01, 2017, 02:11:30 pm
There is Hogs, Gators, and Canes gear all through my home :D

(https://media.giphy.com/media/owbp1CzIuv8Ig/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: WPWells on December 02, 2017, 12:44:53 pm
Memphis is up by 7 at the half on UCF. Let's go Tigers!
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on December 02, 2017, 02:57:50 pm
Quote from: WPWells on December 02, 2017, 12:44:53 pm
Memphis is up by 7 at the half on UCF. Let's go Tigers!

What a wild game.... Just converted 4th and long in double OT. I say they go for 2 point if they get the TD here.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on December 02, 2017, 03:00:06 pm
UCF with the pick... game over. Now they're headed to a big time bowl without their coach cause he is headed back home to Nebraska.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 02, 2017, 03:24:34 pm
Was an exciting game. If Norvell is the hire we better be in the market to pay for a good DC as well.

I would hope Frost told his team before the game. If not it should be a fun locker room and presser after the game
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Romeo on December 02, 2017, 07:15:11 pm
Scott Frost has come a long way since having to hold back Legarratte Blount from killing Boise State fans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQJFoqke14w
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on December 02, 2017, 07:23:47 pm
Quote from: Romeo on December 02, 2017, 07:15:11 pm
Scott Frost has come a long way since having to hold back Legarratte Blount from killing Boise State fans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQJFoqke14w

Nebraska knows he isn't afraid to take on tough challenges then...
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on December 02, 2017, 10:21:29 pm
If the Buckeyes narrowly hold on we will see this below.... If the Badgers pull it out put Wisconsin at 4 and Bama out

1.Clemson
4.Alabama

2.Oklahoma
3.Georgia
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on December 02, 2017, 10:48:48 pm
Neither one of these Big Ten teams are national champion caliber.... Please hold on Ohio State so we can see a Clemson/Bama rematch.... Alabama is getting some of their defensive depth healthy if they get the 4 spot.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: BigLion10 on December 02, 2017, 11:36:25 pm
Looks like a Bama Clemson rematch in the semis, and OU Georgia in the other one
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: VHSCoach2 on December 03, 2017, 09:34:18 am
The Committee will somehow finagle Georgia to be #4 and Alabama #3 to avoid the Clemson/Alabama game in the semi-finals.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: WPWells on December 03, 2017, 10:58:33 am
UCF should get the fourth spot
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: VHSCoach2 on December 03, 2017, 11:37:20 am
Quote from: VHSCoach2 on December 03, 2017, 09:34:18 am
The Committee will somehow finagle Georgia to be #4 and Alabama #3 to avoid the Clemson/Alabama game in the semi-finals.

Well, I was wrong.

Semifinals will be #1 Clemson vs. #4 Alabama in the Sugar Bowl and #2 Oklahoma vs. #3 Georgia (first ever meeting between the schools) in the Rose Bowl.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on December 27, 2017, 06:09:28 pm
Who you all have on Monday? I have it like this....

Alabama 24 Clemson 17- I think this will be quite low scoring and I think Saban is going to slow this one down. I think we will all be shocked if this is a double digit game either way. I think Alabama getting a little healthier on defense with this lay off benefits them tremendously.

Georgia 49 Oklahoma 21- I think we are about to see a statement here. I am by no means an SEC homer. I have been the one dogging the SEC for its play overall the last two years. But I just think Georgia is going to run all over the OU defense who sees nothing like this in the Big 12 when it comes to the running game for Georgia. After a 17 point lead or so Baker Mayfield will be running around against the UGA pass rush coming after him over and over not letting OU get in any flow.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on December 28, 2017, 11:02:43 am
Quote from: beach bum on December 27, 2017, 06:09:28 pm
Who you all have on Monday? I have it like this....

Alabama 24 Clemson 17- I think this will be quite low scoring and I think Saban is going to slow this one down. I think we will all be shocked if this is a double digit game either way. I think Alabama getting a little healthier on defense with this lay off benefits them tremendously.

Georgia 49 Oklahoma 21- I think we are about to see a statement here. I am by no means an SEC homer. I have been the one dogging the SEC for its play overall the last two years. But I just think Georgia is going to run all over the OU defense who sees nothing like this in the Big 12 when it comes to the running game for Georgia. After a 17 point lead or so Baker Mayfield will be running around against the UGA pass rush coming after him over and over not letting OU get in any flow.
these games will be interesting to watch. This isn't the same Bama team that has rolled through college football the last several years. Their schedule is suspect. They don't have a win against a top team. They still have elite level players and tuscalucifer at the helm so I expect them to be a stiff test for Clemson. Bama is capable of winning but I think Clemson does.

If your narrative plays out Georgia should win easily against Oklahoma. If it's a shootout then I would have to go with Baker Mayfield out gunning the Georgia freshman QB. Can the sooner defense contain the bulldog running attack? That's the key to the game
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on December 28, 2017, 11:07:51 am
Quote from: LRRandy on December 28, 2017, 11:02:43 am
these games will be interesting to watch. This isn't the same Bama team that has rolled through college football the last several years. Their schedule is suspect. They don't have a win against a top team. They still have elite level players and tuscalucifer at the helm so I expect them to be a stiff test for Clemson. Bama is capable of winning but I think Clemson does.

If your narrative plays out Georgia should win easily against Oklahoma. If it's a shootout then I would have to go with Baker Mayfield out gunning the Georgia freshman QB. Can the sooner defense contain the bulldog running attack? That's the key to the game

I agree... I think that Georgia needs to keep the OU score within reason. UGA does not want a shootout. And that Bama vs Clemson game is going to be a slugfest.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on December 28, 2017, 12:13:16 pm
Quote from: beach bum on December 28, 2017, 11:07:51 am
I agree... I think that Georgia needs to keep the OU score within reason. UGA does not want a shootout. And that Bama vs Clemson game is going to be a slugfest.
that Clemson d line is just a bunch of monsters. It is what allowed the offense time to grow and get established with so many new pieces.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: WPWells on December 28, 2017, 01:42:23 pm
I think Georgia wins bigly, and I think Clemson also makes a dynastic statement by 14+
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on December 28, 2017, 04:49:24 pm
Quote from: WPWells on December 28, 2017, 01:42:23 pm
I think Georgia wins bigly, and I think Clemson also makes a dynastic statement by 14+
I'm still not sure about the Ga OU game but I'm hoping that you are right about Clemson. One of my favorite sights is the camera panning the Alabama fans at a game when the  inevitability of defeat sets in. ( much like you find joy in my sorrow 😀)
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: WPWells on December 28, 2017, 07:55:25 pm
I've grown to hate Alabama almost as much as I hate Ohio State. Also, my dad did his graduate degree at Clemson, so when they're playing I pull out my Tiger Rag and cheer them on (unless they happen to be playing Arkansas)
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on December 29, 2017, 05:11:03 pm
Bama and UGA better carry the torch for the SEC cause the middle of the pack SEC is looking quite vanilla in the bowl games for the third year in a row. The Mizzou offense was deemed inept against an average Texas team. Wake Forest scoring 55 on an SEC team speaks for itself. And Northwestern is not allowing Kentucky to do really anything right now.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: HorseFeathers on December 29, 2017, 08:06:12 pm
You use vanilla like it's a bad flavor? Why not use an actual bad flavor like Rocky road or neopolitan(dang indecisive people) ?
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on December 29, 2017, 08:30:34 pm
Quote from: HorseFeathers on December 29, 2017, 08:06:12 pm
You use vanilla like it's a bad flavor? Why not use an actual bad flavor like Rocky road or neopolitan(dang indecisive people) ?

Vanilla good.... Neopolitan yuck!
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: RATTLER43 on January 01, 2018, 03:57:26 pm
Quote from: beach bum on December 29, 2017, 05:11:03 pm
Bama and UGA better carry the torch for the SEC cause the middle of the pack SEC is looking quite vanilla in the bowl games for the third year in a row. The Mizzou offense was deemed inept against an average Texas team. Wake Forest scoring 55 on an SEC team speaks for itself. And Northwestern is not allowing Kentucky to do really anything right now.

SEC has stunk up the place...   But I am happy for UCF.  Undefeated is tough to accomplish.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: sevenof400 on January 01, 2018, 04:26:32 pm
Words to warm Randy's heart from ESPN:


Quote....The Big Ten's chance at a perfect bowl season died at the hands of a bumbling Michigan offense....
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on January 01, 2018, 05:13:29 pm
Quote from: sevenof400 on January 01, 2018, 04:26:32 pm
Words to warm Randy's heart from ESPN:
amen brother. Conference pride has no place at my home. When those ugly helmets are on the field we want them to lose.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: VHSCoach2 on January 01, 2018, 07:03:45 pm
Quote from: sevenof400 on January 01, 2018, 04:26:32 pm
Words to warm Randy's heart from ESPN:

(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/26233995_1770846866281799_480741640_n.jpg?oh=ca9fe781f96d215a93e5e26dccfb8d40&oe=5A4D1902)
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: RATTLER43 on January 01, 2018, 08:21:12 pm
Quote from: RATTLER43 on January 01, 2018, 03:57:26 pm
SEC has stunk up the place...   But I am happy for UCF.  Undefeated is tough to accomplish.

...yet, even in a truly down year by SEC standards, two SEC teams are in playoff and at least one in the title game.  SEC tough by Georgia.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Valleysports on January 01, 2018, 11:12:24 pm
Quote from: RATTLER43 on January 01, 2018, 08:21:12 pm
...yet, even in a truly down year by SEC standards, two SEC teams are in playoff and at least one in the title game.  SEC tough by Georgia.

All bowls, other than playoff bowls, are just participation awards.  Some teams don't have coaches, other don't play NFL bound seniors, they're like exhibition games.  What bowl did Ohio State get in this year - when do they play?
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on January 02, 2018, 08:48:52 am
Quote from: Valleysports on January 01, 2018, 11:12:24 pm
All bowls, other than playoff bowls, are just participation awards.  Some teams don't have coaches, other don't play NFL bound seniors, they're like exhibition games.  What bowl did Ohio State get in this year - when do they play?
I would minimize the bowls also if I only had a few teams that could win games. BTW I think your third best team had its coach and players and still lost to a group of five team.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Valleysports on January 02, 2018, 09:35:49 am
Quote from: LRRandy on January 02, 2018, 08:48:52 am
I would minimize the bowls also if I only had a few teams that could win games. BTW I think your third best team had its coach and players and still lost to a group of five team.

Do you watch the NIT? Yeah seriously I'm not going to look up who Ohio St beat or what Bowl they played in.  I saw you were writing yourself a congratulations, but I can't remember if you said who/where.  Go ahead - post it again - I'll note it.  Like I've always said - the Big 10 is the most evenly matched conference in college football.   

Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on January 02, 2018, 09:50:47 am
Quote from: Valleysports on January 02, 2018, 09:35:49 am
Do you watch the NIT? Yeah seriously I'm not going to look up who Ohio St beat or what Bowl they played in.  I saw you were writing yourself a congratulations, but I can't remember if you said who/where.  Go ahead - post it again - I'll note it.  Like I've always said - the Big 10 is the most evenly matched conference in college football.   
I love college football. I love following my team and all that goes into a season and the games. If you truly don't know who played in the New Years 6 bowl games then that just shows that you really aren't a college football fan and just a bandwagon jumping grandstander. That's fine by me it just erodes any credibility that you might have as it relates to commenting on college football.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: beach bum on January 02, 2018, 09:53:19 am
Quote from: Valleysports on January 01, 2018, 11:12:24 pm
All bowls, other than playoff bowls, are just participation awards.  Some teams don't have coaches, other don't play NFL bound seniors, they're like exhibition games.  What bowl did Ohio State get in this year - when do they play?

I agree with this pretty much....
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Valleysports on January 02, 2018, 09:58:41 am
Quote from: LRRandy on January 02, 2018, 09:50:47 am
I love college football. I love following my team and all that goes into a season and the games. If you truly don't know who played in the New Years 6 bowl games then that just shows that you really aren't a college football fan and just a bandwagon jumping grandstander. That's fine by me it just erodes any credibility that you might have as it relates to commenting on college football.

Credibility? You were still saying Bama didn't deserve to be in the playoffs, last week, because according to you they haven't played anyone.  You say that every year and you end up being wrong every year.  Being a college football fan doesn't mean you have any football sense.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: LRRandy on January 02, 2018, 10:04:51 am
Quote from: Valleysports on January 02, 2018, 09:58:41 am
Credibility? You were still saying Bama didn't deserve to be in the playoffs, last week, because according to you they haven't played anyone.  You say that every year and you end up being wrong every year.  Being a college football fan doesn't mean you have any football sense.
Bama showed last night that they deserved to be in. Up to last night they hadn't beaten anyone with a pulse. The facts of their record is what I based my opinion on.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Valleysports on January 02, 2018, 10:30:04 am
Quote from: LRRandy on January 02, 2018, 10:04:51 am
Bama showed last night that they deserved to be in. Up to last night they hadn't beaten anyone with a pulse. The facts of their record is what I based my opinion on.

Exactly - maybe next year you should look at the candidates more than the polls.  Stop judging "who has a pulse" based on rankings.  You've never given defense enough weight in your predictions.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Chief_Osceola™ on January 02, 2018, 12:37:28 pm
Quote from: LRRandy on January 02, 2018, 08:48:52 am
I would minimize the bowls also if I only had a few teams that could win games. BTW I think your third best team had its coach and players and still lost to a group of five team.


...whose head coach is on his way out.  UCF is my national champion.  The game next week is a glorified consolation game.
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: sevenof400 on January 02, 2018, 01:54:26 pm
Quote from: Chief_Osceola™ on January 02, 2018, 12:37:28 pm

...whose head coach is on his way out.  UCF is my national champion.  The game next week is a glorified consolation game.

And just what does the Chief's trophy look like?
Title: Re: 2017 CFB season
Post by: Chief_Osceola™ on January 02, 2018, 01:57:31 pm
Quote from: sevenof400 on January 02, 2018, 01:54:26 pm
And just what does the Chief's trophy look like?

Still finalizing the designs.  Thinking about making it an annual thing.