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Title: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 11, 2014, 12:02:20 pm
In 2012, A&M moved from the Big 12 to the SEC.  The Aggies were expected to struggle after a mediocre 7-6, 2011 season.  However their early success in the SEC has flipped the script on how the program is viewed in the state of Texas and Nationally.  A&Ms rival, Univ of Texas, threatened that if A&M left the Big 12, they'd never play them again.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 11, 2014, 12:04:22 pm
Timing - The Aggies played on national television six times during the 2012 season. In 2011, in the Big 12, the Aggies played on national television two times.  The SEC put A&M on a national stage to show off what they had Athletically and Academically.  Who could've have known Freshman QB, Johnny Football. would become the most thrilling football player in college and the first freshman to win the Heisman?  At the same time - the recruit dominating, Texas University, was falling apart.  Texas University continued to fall apart - eventually leading to Mack Browns retirement.  A&M's licensing revenue jumped 25% in 2012.  A&M is recruiting fans in the state of Texas.  More and more top recruits begin to look at A&M - suddenly the struggling Horns aren't on the top of the food chain anymore.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 11, 2014, 12:06:45 pm
Timing - Sumlin brought his hybrid offense from Conference USA, tweaked it for Johnny's Talent.  Recruits like Sumlin and his offense. 

Location - 2014, #1 QB Recruit, from Arizona, wanted to play in the SEC, on a National Stage.  Closest team to home - A&M (the only SEC team in Texas).  Players from other Texas DI Schools, begin transferring (sitting out) to A&M, Top JUCO players are choosing A&M.  Univ Texas becomes desperate, when 2014 recruits leave for A&M, AND the hammer is coming down even harder with the ridiculous 2015 verbally committed recruits.  The Top players in Texas (biggest pool of recruits in the country) want to play for A&M.  This is a big change from the Mediocre Aggies of the SWC and Big 12.
Title: in
Post by: Valleysports on May 11, 2014, 12:08:59 pm
Last 4 ranked recruit classes 27 - 15 - 11 - 6 - 1 (predicted).

Senior - Kenny Hill is currently the starting QB.  Freshman Kyle Allen will be pushing him for playing time.  Both capable QBs.
     
Texas A&M is currently building the largest college football stadium in Texas
Texas A&M is currently installing the largest college football video board.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 11, 2014, 12:10:37 pm
In Summary - A&M is becoming a Top Program, because Texas Players want to play in the SEC
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: True Fan on May 11, 2014, 12:13:29 pm
Yawn.

Johnny Football is gone. Is their 15 seconds up? Time will tell. Until they prove that they can win without one of, if not the, greatest game changers that ever played college football, they are just another one hit wonder that didn't win a national championship.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 11, 2014, 12:21:11 pm
That's the kind of rebuttal I expected, True Fan, just trying to unload the Hog Football thread from such enlightening banter.   ::) 

Oh yes - And get you on record.  Next?

Quote from: True Fan on May 11, 2014, 12:13:29 pm
Johnny Football is gone. Is their 15 seconds up? Time will tell. Until they prove that they can win without one of, if not the, greatest game changers that ever played college football, they are just another one hit wonder that didn't win a national championship.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 11, 2014, 06:33:47 pm
Quote from: mack on May 11, 2014, 05:20:15 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on May 11, 2014, 10:12:35 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on May 11, 2014, 09:39:35 am
Come on valley you know what I'm talking about. I'm pretty sure A&M recruiting class was better than the Hogs was the year before. When the defense is on the filed more than the offense they tend to give up more points.

Razorbacks - 2010 (49), 2011 (24), 2012 (34), 2013 (27), 2014 (29), 2015 (supposed to be good).
Texas A&M  - 2010 (17), 2011 (27), 2012 (15), 2013 (11), 2014 (6),   2015 (1).
Alabama - - - 2011 through 2014 ( #1 ), 2015 (2).

Not that it is always this way, but recruit rankings tend to trend performance.

I know what you're talking about - reason we don't agree is that, for some reason, it's hard for Hog Fans to see the Big Picture.  Or is it?   ;)  It's no slight on Arkansas - just the way it's coming together for A&M.

Please post further A&M post on the A&M Thread I'm about to start....  :)


Bro',,,, you are setting yourself up for a big fall.  Don't worry,Mack will be here to comfort you!

Ha ha I might be setting myself up - but I'm going stay with it all the way  :D   Oh I know you'll be there!  I brought up the ideal of giving our grandchildren another choice, besides Moral Victories Razorbacks, today at dinner.  Suggested why I thought A&M was fixing to be a Top SEC Team.  My Father-n-law got serious pretty quick.   ;D   That ain't going to happen!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 11, 2014, 06:35:15 pm
So what's the wager - Mafia Mack?   8)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Uncle Ivan on May 11, 2014, 06:50:32 pm
A&M went .500 this past season in the league for a fourth-place division finish, even with Manziel.

Can their success be sustained?
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: mack on May 11, 2014, 07:19:29 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on May 11, 2014, 06:35:15 pm
So what's the wager - Mafia Mack?   8)

I will ruminate on it and offer my terms :-)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: AirWarren on May 11, 2014, 07:22:27 pm
YAWN valley.....

:)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: sevenof400 on May 11, 2014, 07:31:22 pm
And you didn't mention this wonderful little factoid (http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2014/story/_/id/10914219/2014-nfl-draft-texas-longhorns-zero-players-drafted)...
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: bdubyab60 on May 11, 2014, 07:40:39 pm
Like I been saying they haven't done anything the Hogs haven't done in the SEC yet. As long as Saban and Miles are in the West it will be Bama and LSU with everyone else chasing.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Lionheart88 on May 11, 2014, 08:06:34 pm
Losing three first rounders off of that offense will hurt TAMU a lot.  You don't just replace a Manziel or an Evans, and their defense is nothing to write home about.  Icarus got a little too close to the sun this past year, look for a return to earth in 2014.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: sevenof400 on May 11, 2014, 09:11:33 pm
Excellent reference, Lionheart!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 11, 2014, 10:44:09 pm
Quote from: Lionheart88 on May 11, 2014, 08:06:34 pm
Losing three first rounders off of that offense will hurt TAMU a lot.  You don't just replace a Manziel or an Evans, and their defense is nothing to write home about.  Icarus got a little too close to the sun this past year, look for a return to earth in 2014.

Lionheart hasn't been looking at their replacements and transfers!  ;)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Big Fan on May 11, 2014, 10:47:01 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on May 11, 2014, 10:44:09 pm
Quote from: Lionheart88 on May 11, 2014, 08:06:34 pm
Losing three first rounders off of that offense will hurt TAMU a lot.  You don't just replace a Manziel or an Evans, and their defense is nothing to write home about.  Icarus got a little too close to the sun this past year, look for a return to earth in 2014.

Lionheart hasn't been looking at their replacements and transfers!  ;)
It won't matter. 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 11, 2014, 10:48:23 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on May 11, 2014, 07:40:39 pm
Like I been saying they haven't done anything the Hogs haven't done in the SEC yet. As long as Saban and Miles are in the West it will be Bama and LSU with everyone else chasing.

Ha ha - that's for sure and the Hogs have done things A&M never wants to do, like 0-8.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 11, 2014, 11:04:40 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on May 11, 2014, 07:40:39 pm
Like I been saying they haven't done anything the Hogs haven't done in the SEC yet. As long as Saban and Miles are in the West it will be Bama and LSU with everyone else chasing.

At the very least A&M will consistently finish in Top 4 SEC West.  Which means Arkansas will consistently finish in the Bottom 4.   
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Big Fan on May 11, 2014, 11:41:05 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on May 11, 2014, 11:04:40 pm
At the very least A&M will consistently finish in Top 4 SEC West. 
If that makes you happy....great. 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 12, 2014, 07:33:22 am
Quote from: Big Fan on May 11, 2014, 11:41:05 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on May 11, 2014, 11:04:40 pm
At the very least A&M will consistently finish in Top 4 SEC West. 
If that makes you happy....great.

Happy?  ::)  I have no feelings for A&M - happy / sad - whatever.   ;D   The direction that A&M is going has nothing to do with my happiness - just like your feelings have nothing to do with Arkansas struggles. It's a game - coaches are recruited - coaches recruit the best players they can get - each season they play the game with the players they've recruited.  All we can do is Observe...   

I understand y'all do not want this to happen - but can one of you post anything, other than Cheerleader Banter, as to where I might be missing something? 

Edit:  Lionheart88 made a good point about A&M losing three first rounders... 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on May 12, 2014, 07:44:49 am
Quote from: Valleysports on May 12, 2014, 07:33:22 am
Quote from: Big Fan on May 11, 2014, 11:41:05 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on May 11, 2014, 11:04:40 pm
At the very least A&M will consistently finish in Top 4 SEC West. 
If that makes you happy....great.



Happy?  ::)  Big Fan that's why it's hard for you to understand football - it's about emotions with you.  I have no feelings for A&M - happy / sad - whatever.   ;D   The direction that A&M is going has nothing to do with my happiness - just like your feelings have nothing to do with Arkansas struggles. It's a game - coaches are recruited - coaches recruit the best players they can get - each season they play the game with the players they've recruited.   

I understand y'all do not want this to happen - but can one of you post anything, other than Cheerleader Banter, as to where I might be missing something?


University of Texas, all 5* recruit's, no draft picks, no titles.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 12, 2014, 07:45:51 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on May 11, 2014, 07:40:39 pm
Like I been saying they haven't done anything the Hogs haven't done in the SEC yet. As long as Saban and Miles are in the West it will be Bama and LSU with everyone else chasing.

How good do y'all think Saban and Miles would be, if they played, every season, with recruit classes in the mid 20's-30's?  Saban gets to pick his #1 All Star Team every year.  Just for fun - If Saban and Bilema switched places right now, would everyone else be chasing LSU and Arkansas?  What if Miles switched with Bielema (Arkansas & Alabama?) - is Miles that great of a coach?
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 12, 2014, 08:48:57 am
Quote from: ricepig on May 12, 2014, 07:44:49 am
University of Texas, all 5* recruit's, no draft picks, no titles.

I see your point but "all 5* recruits" is not exactly correct.  More like #2 ranked class - two, 5* recruits, 15, 4*.  Definitely athletic enough to get the job done.  Any insight on why UT finally faltered with such a high ranked class, ricepig?  What was their record?  Having an All Star Team doesn't guarantee a National Title - just makes it much easier to obtain.  If Texas had no draft picks, I'd have to say that in reality they didn't have 5* recruits (mis-ranked) wouldn't you?

Here's a good thing - Texas recruit class rankings - 2010 (2), 2011 (5), 2012 (3),  A&M -SEC  2013 (16), 2014 (16),
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on May 12, 2014, 10:07:34 am
Quote from: Valleysports on May 12, 2014, 08:48:57 am
Quote from: ricepig on May 12, 2014, 07:44:49 am
University of Texas, all 5* recruit's, no draft picks, no titles.

I see your point but "all 5* recruits" is not exactly correct.  More like #2 ranked class - two, 5* recruits, 15, 4*.  Definitely athletic enough to get the job done.  Any insight on why UT finally faltered with such a high ranked class, ricepig?  What was their record?  Having an All Star Team doesn't guarantee a National Title - just makes it much easier to obtain.  If Texas had no draft picks, I'd have to say that in reality they didn't have 5* recruits (mis-ranked) wouldn't you?

Here's a good thing - Texas recruit class rankings - 2010 (2), 2011 (5), 2012 (3),  A&M -SEC  2013 (16), 2014 (16),


Texas suffered from the same thing aTm will, talent is overrated in Texas.   ;D. You probably be a 3* these days.  Seriously, Mack took the rankings of the Texas high school kids, invited them to Jr Day made his offers and then accepted the first 25. He then proceeded to tell any of that 25, if they took another visit their off was pulled. That doesn't work in 2014. I really don't know where the aTm kids are from, for Sumlin's sake they best not all be from Texas.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 12, 2014, 12:20:36 pm
Quote from: ricepig on May 12, 2014, 10:07:34 am
Texas suffered from the same thing aTm will, talent is overrated in Texas.   ;D. You probably be a 3* these days.  Seriously, Mack took the rankings of the Texas high school kids, invited them to Jr Day made his offers and then accepted the first 25. He then proceeded to tell any of that 25, if they took another visit their off was pulled. That doesn't work in 2014. I really don't know where the aTm kids are from, for Sumlin's sake they best not all be from Texas.

LOL - I was the type player you'd like - not rankable coming out of high school, grew 50 lbs muscle, dropped .02 off 40x, increased 150 lbs bench freshman to senior year - WR - TE - OL...  all heart!  :D

Interesting take on Mack - matches the over ranked theory.  Texas is the only team I dislike at this time.  And that is because they've ruined college football, reason A&M left them.  I'm so sicked and tired of the money thing! I'm guessing A&M had something to do with UT's coaching choice.

If I remember A&M's 2015 anticipated big time verbals are mostly E Texas LOL.  Now all my theories are based on true 5* star recruits and Top ranked classes.  But I'm committed to stay with it until theory is exhausted.   :D 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on May 12, 2014, 12:30:43 pm
Got to love that about you Valley, you stick to your guns, even when you're dead wrong, lol.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 12, 2014, 12:36:13 pm
Got some baseball / softball this week - you going to any of it.

TECH is hosting the DII Region Playoffs - Tech, SAU, & UAM in tournament.
High School Baseball / Softball playoffs (6a) in Benton (I think).
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on May 12, 2014, 12:40:52 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on May 12, 2014, 12:36:13 pm
Got some baseball / softball this week - you going to any of it.

TECH is hosting the DII Region Playoffs - Tech, SAU, & UAM in tournament.
High School Baseball / Softball playoffs (6a) in Benton (I think).

I probably will catch some of the baseball in Benton, I'm not sure what days yet. I figure our girls will be one and done in softball, but who knows??
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Breitontime on May 12, 2014, 01:15:26 pm
Tech ended up hosting? Good deal.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Lions84 on May 12, 2014, 01:46:31 pm
Something tells me based on TAMU history they are due for a epic under performing season with the loss of Johnny Football.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: mack on May 12, 2014, 01:58:08 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on May 12, 2014, 12:20:36 pm
Quote from: ricepig on May 12, 2014, 10:07:34 am
Texas suffered from the same thing aTm will, talent is overrated in Texas.   ;D. You probably be a 3* these days.  Seriously, Mack took the rankings of the Texas high school kids, invited them to Jr Day made his offers and then accepted the first 25. He then proceeded to tell any of that 25, if they took another visit their off was pulled. That doesn't work in 2014. I really don't know where the aTm kids are from, for Sumlin's sake they best not all be from Texas.

LOL - I was the type player you'd like - not rankable coming out of high school, grew 50 lbs muscle, dropped .02 off 40x, increased 150 lbs bench freshman to senior year - WR - TE - OL...  all heart!  :D

Interesting take on Mack - matches the over ranked theory.  Texas is the only team I dislike at this time.  And that is because they've ruined college football, reason A&M left them.  I'm so sicked and tired of the money thing! I'm guessing A&M had something to do with UT's coaching choice.

If I remember A&M's 2015 anticipated big time verbals are mostly E Texas LOL.  Now all my theories are based on true 5* star recruits and Top ranked classes.  But I'm committed to stay with it until theory is exhausted.   :D


Admittedly I believe your theory based on stars is superior to my reliance on past history:-)  I look forward to seeing whose science prevails!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Uncle Ivan on May 12, 2014, 03:45:44 pm
Quote from: Lions84 on May 12, 2014, 01:46:31 pm
Something tells me based on TAMU history they are due for a epic under performing season with the loss of Johnny Football.

How many first round linemen were blocking for him?  Two, three? Plus a tall, excellent WR.  Manziel's supporting cast may have made him look much better than he actually is.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 12, 2014, 03:58:20 pm
Quote from: mack on May 12, 2014, 01:58:08 pm
Admittedly I believe your theory based on stars is superior to my reliance on past history:-)  I look forward to seeing whose science prevails!

Admittedly you know more about their history, cause I didn't pay attention to them when we lived out of the country for 18 yrs.  I appreciate the post - it will be interesting.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 12, 2014, 04:01:51 pm
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on May 12, 2014, 03:45:44 pm
How many first round linemen were blocking for him?  Two, three? Plus a tall, excellent WR.  Manziel's supporting cast may have made him look much better than he actually is.

I've got some research for you, when I get home from my Pickle Ball Tournament, tonight.  A&M might have some of that void covered.  Admittely I'm relying on scouting reports and possibly A&M propaganda  :)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: bdubyab60 on May 13, 2014, 07:15:18 am
Quote from: Valleysports on May 12, 2014, 07:45:51 am
Quote from: bdubyab60 on May 11, 2014, 07:40:39 pm
Like I been saying they haven't done anything the Hogs haven't done in the SEC yet. As long as Saban and Miles are in the West it will be Bama and LSU with everyone else chasing.

How good do y'all think Saban and Miles would be, if they played, every season, with recruit classes in the mid 20's-30's?  Saban gets to pick his #1 All Star Team every year.  Just for fun - If Saban and Bilema switched places right now, would everyone else be chasing LSU and Arkansas?  What if Miles switched with Bielema (Arkansas & Alabama?) - is Miles that great of a coach?
i don't think Miles is a great coach, probably the luckiest coach ever. The guy wins though. You could probably look at Sabans classes when he was at LSU to see how he did with mid 20's classes. I'm not sure what those rankings were.

We know LSU wasn't doing great until Saban got there and turned it around. Miles has kept it going.
Bama was good but Saban has taken it to another level. But I'm not real sure what they would do without all the studs they get but I think they would still be pretty darn good.

We will see where everything ends up. Sooner or later another team has to break through like auburn did and I'm hoping it's the Hogs.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Hoghead on May 13, 2014, 07:42:26 am
Arkansas leads the series 41-26-3. The Aggies have been a pleasant surprise in the SEC. The Orange Horns are being overshadowed by Sumlins sucess. Hogs will get it togather and continue to dominate the Aggies !
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 13, 2014, 09:55:28 am
Quote from: Hoghead on May 13, 2014, 07:42:26 am
Arkansas leads the series 41-26-3. The Aggies have been a pleasant surprise in the SEC.

Aggies lead the series 2-0 (SEC), better do something about that 0 before they grab gears.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: AirWarren on May 13, 2014, 10:08:44 am
We will.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 13, 2014, 02:45:52 pm
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on May 12, 2014, 03:45:44 pm
How many first round linemen were blocking for him?  Two, three? Plus a tall, excellent WR.  Manziel's supporting cast may have made him look much better than he actually is.

The team, outside QB, will be better than last year - maybe a lot.  And don't underestimate what's coming down the pipe at QB.  Four out the 5 playing Offensive Linemen will be back (one of A&M's strengths), they added 2 college OL and 2 Freshman OL.  Anticipating big things at WR (Speedy Noils - Josh Reynolds) and Running Backs (transfers from Oklahoma & Oregon).
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 13, 2014, 02:47:52 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on May 13, 2014, 10:08:44 am
We will.

That should be the Hog Chant!  Someday we will!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Hoghead on May 13, 2014, 02:58:57 pm
The Hogs beat A&M in the first 3 Southwest classics. Back when you were quiet Valley.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on May 13, 2014, 03:09:25 pm
Quote from: Hoghead on May 13, 2014, 02:58:57 pm
The Hogs beat A&M in the first 3 Southwest classics. Back when you were quiet Valley.

I really figured he'd pick Bama as a team to bandwagon on, sounds like my youngest son, always picks the Super Bowl camps, WS winners, or NBA finals winner.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Hoghead on May 13, 2014, 03:14:19 pm
Aggie 's will always be trash to the Hogs. We own every school in Texas except the Longhorns. Embrace that fact Valley !
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: bdubyab60 on May 13, 2014, 03:43:53 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on May 13, 2014, 02:45:52 pm
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on May 12, 2014, 03:45:44 pm
How many first round linemen were blocking for him?  Two, three? Plus a tall, excellent WR.  Manziel's supporting cast may have made him look much better than he actually is.

The team, outside QB, will be better than last year - maybe a lot.  And don't underestimate what's coming down the pipe at QB.  Four out the 5 playing Offensive Linemen will be back (one of A&M's strengths), they added 2 college OL and 2 Freshman OL.  Anticipating big things at WR (Speedy Noils - Josh Reynolds) and Running Backs (transfers from Oklahoma & Oregon).
Valley are you sure that A&M's line is a strength. didnt look like they really did much the way Manziel had to run around and make plays.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: AirWarren on May 13, 2014, 04:53:26 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on May 13, 2014, 02:47:52 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on May 13, 2014, 10:08:44 am
We will.

That should be the Hog Chant!  Someday we will!

We have in regards to the aggies. Come on valley, you know better than to do this with me. You can't troll me like you do Rice!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 13, 2014, 05:41:02 pm
Quote from: Hoghead on May 13, 2014, 02:58:57 pm
The Hogs beat A&M in the first 3 Southwest classics. Back when you were quiet Valley.

A&M has won 3 straight bowl games - what have the Hogs done for me lately baby?

Quote from: Hoghead on May 13, 2014, 03:14:19 pm
Aggie 's will always be trash to the Hogs. We own every school in Texas except the Longhorns. Embrace that fact Valley !

C'mon

Quote from: ricepig on May 13, 2014, 03:09:25 pm
I really figured he'd pick Bama as a team to bandwagon on, sounds like my youngest son, always picks the Super Bowl camps, WS winners, or NBA finals winner.

Not a bandwagon person - just say it like I see it!

Quote from: bdubyab60 on May 13, 2014, 03:43:53 pm
Valley are you sure that A&M's line is a strength. didnt look like they really did much the way Manziel had to run around and make plays.

Oh most definitely - are you kidding?  So since you predict the future by looking in the rear view mirror - should we expect more of the same from the Hogs? BTW, didn't we have a discussion, like this, when I posted that Seattle's Defense would stop Elway's Offense dead in it's tracks?

Quote from: AirWarren on May 13, 2014, 04:53:26 pm
Come on valley, you know better than to do this with me. You can't troll me like you do Rice!

;D  I'm laying it out there - I'll eat crow if that's where it ends up...  Just for the record - I have always maintained TWO YEARS OUT (2015)!  They have a freshman QB, to get up to speed, and a defense that'll still be recruiting..... 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: AirWarren on May 13, 2014, 06:01:13 pm
Coach B will have us where we need to be. We are about to pound some folks at the LOS!!!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Russ PhD on May 13, 2014, 10:57:48 pm
Ok. I spent five years in Aggieland getting two grad degrees, but I don't think I can match Valley's enthusiasm.

Here are my thoughts on a few things:

(1) 41-26-3. This is the historical advantage of the Hogs over A&M.
    A. During the 1946-1970 (A&M was still all male with required ROTC for this period), the Hogs were 18-5-2 (+13). This period accounts for any historical advantage that Arkansas has.
    B. If you truly believe that the A&M today is the same as the A&M of the 40's, 50's, and 60's, then you are out of touch. It has over 50,000 students on campus today. There were slightly over 10,000 in 1970. The population base for recruiting good football players is HUGE compared to the Hogs.

(2) About 5 years ago (if old posts hang around that long), I posted that I would be surprised if either team had more than 6 wins in the Southwest Classic after 10 years. I am not sure I believe that anymore.
    A. Whether you understand the politics of it or not, A&M was under the thumb of the 'horns while they were connected in an athletic conference. As Hog fans, you KNOW how crooked the officiating and league officials are with respect to the 'horns. That was just SOP for conferences that were "graced" by the goodness of God to have Texas with them.
    B. Now that A&M has stepped into the SEC, the potential of the university is no longer held back by a lying, cheating, ... Texas athletic department and administration.

(3) The OL talent at A&M is STILL there.
    A. Cedric Ogbuehi is currently projected as the top OT for the 2015 draft (http://nfl.si.com/2014/05/13/2015-nfl-mock-draft-cedric-ogbuehi/).
    B. Mike Mathews will be an NFL 1st rounder in 2 years (son of HOF Bruce Mathews, younger brother of 2 NFL OL - Kevin and Jake).
    C. The top JC OL Jermaine Eluemunor decommitted from the Hogs and went through spring practice with the Ags.
    D. A couple of top HS signed with the Ags in February.

(4) There is plenty of QB talent at A&M and Sumlin's offense knows how to use them.
    A. Kenny Hill is a dual threat and was highly recruited by every school in this region.
    B. Kyle Allen was the #1 pro-style QB in 2014 and was early enrolled. He looked outstanding in spring practice - which caused the RS Sr QB to transfer.

(5) There are plenty of WR at A&M. Don't kid yourself that Mike Evans was a one-man band.

(6) A&M signed the top defensive player in the country (Miles Garrett) in February and defense has been the focus of recruiting the last 2 years by Sumlin and his staff.

(7) Sumlin decided to take his lumps on defense and red-shirted 2 DL this fall. They were in camp and much bigger and stronger during spring drills.

****

ON the Hog front, you have Bert Bielema now discussing a 5-yr plan (like the old Soviet Union). I learn toward the Ags having more success over the next couple of years than the Hogs. However, I will admit to being a homer who just outlined 7 reasons for it.

Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 14, 2014, 07:08:34 am
Quote from: Russ PhD on May 13, 2014, 10:57:48 pm
Ok. I spent five years in Aggieland getting two grad degrees, but I don't think I can match Valley's enthusiasm fascination.

Thanks you for adding something to the discussion, instead of "Nope", "We own every team in Texas", or "A&M will return to mediocre".   :)   
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on May 14, 2014, 07:11:33 am
Typical PhD b.s., you use 1000 words when 20 would suffice. I hope you're not the aTm fan who stood behind section 106 Friday night and made a complete fool of himself. If so, I'm embarrassed for you. He did your 12th man group, no favors.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 14, 2014, 07:20:37 am
Now there's a typical Hog reply - 50 words when NONE would suffice!  ;D
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on May 14, 2014, 07:25:08 am
Quote from: Valleysports on May 14, 2014, 07:20:37 am
Now there's a typical Hog reply - 50 words when NONE would suffice!  ;D

His was just all Aggie propaganda and excuses, I know you wouldn't allow that in the Hog thread to go unnoticed.   ;D  I'll leave you two to your little love fest over the Ags.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: mack on May 14, 2014, 07:58:14 am
Quote from: ricepig on May 14, 2014, 07:25:08 am
Quote from: Valleysports on May 14, 2014, 07:20:37 am
Now there's a typical Hog reply - 50 words when NONE would suffice!  ;D

His was just all Aggie propaganda and excuses, I know you wouldn't allow that in the Hog thread to go unnoticed.   ;D  I'll leave you two to your little love fest over the Ags.

" I'll leave you two to your little love fest."

Not that there's anything wrong with that now in Arkansas....  :-)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 14, 2014, 08:03:19 am
Beat me to it mack -  ;D
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: mack on May 14, 2014, 10:29:31 am
Quote from: Valleysports on May 14, 2014, 08:03:19 am
Beat me to it mack -  ;D


Hahahahahahahahaha!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 14, 2014, 06:10:52 pm
How many know what gig-em means without looking it up?  I don't!  :-[
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: True Fan on May 14, 2014, 06:54:04 pm
How many care? I don't.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on May 14, 2014, 08:00:10 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on May 14, 2014, 06:10:52 pm
How many know what gig-em means without looking it up?  I don't!  :-[

I know what it means to gig frogs, does that count?
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 14, 2014, 09:13:25 pm
Quote from: True Fan on May 14, 2014, 06:54:04 pm
How many care? I don't.

C'mon - this is Arkansas 2014, you can come out of the closet now.  You wouldn't be on an Aggie Thread if you didn't care.  ;)   I'll google it..
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: True Fan on May 14, 2014, 10:30:27 pm
Nah Valley. Just got lured to a new thread with a catchy title and pointed out some facts that you like to overlook. Now, it pops up in my unread reply folder.  ::)

I got a sister in Houston who sent my nephew and niece through aggieland. I can't help but to learn some things, doesn't mean I have to care.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 14, 2014, 11:07:08 pm
Ooops forgot to look up Gig-em....   :-[
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 14, 2014, 11:10:58 pm
Rather than end a conversation with "goodbye", many conversations between Aggies end with "gig 'em", usually accompanied by a thumbs up. This tradition began at a 1930 Midnight Yell Practice held before the football game against the Texas Christian University Horned Frogs. In an attempt to excite the crowd, Pinky Downs, a 1906 Texas A&M graduate and member of the school's Board of Regents, asked "What are we going to do to those Horned Frogs?"[13] Using a term for frog hunting, he answered his own question, "Gig 'em, Aggies!"
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Big Fan on May 14, 2014, 11:15:24 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on May 14, 2014, 11:10:58 pm
Rather than end a conversation with "goodbye", many conversations between Aggies end with "gig 'em", usually accompanied by a thumbs up. This tradition began at a 1930 Midnight Yell Practice held before the football game against the Texas Christian University Horned Frogs. In an attempt to excite the crowd, Pinky Downs, a 1906 Texas A&M graduate and member of the school's Board of Regents, asked "What are we going to do to those Horned Frogs?"[13] Using a term for frog hunting, he answered his own question, "Gig 'em, Aggies!"
That is actually good info...........shocking! 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 19, 2014, 06:51:24 pm
I hadn't thought about other sports!  :-\   Can't see, being in the SEC, making a difference.

(https://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HBgtaHR0cDovL3N0YXRpYy5vdy5seS9waG90b3Mvb3JpZ2luYWwvNUJPYlouanBnFN4FFNIFABYAEgA&s=b_zwqMKDHoK6iXnZTYwNAwDRKmuKjf2TbKEao4ZNz_A)



Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on May 28, 2014, 03:33:29 pm
Your sleeping on the job Valley, aTm just got another 5* QB, Kyler Murray. By the way, which one leaves first, Allen or Murray? I watched this kid in some Tx playoff games on TV, he runs, be interested to see how he passes against SEC defenses.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 28, 2014, 04:50:41 pm
I looked him up - just adding to that 2015 class #1 class.  He does look good - I think he'll Red Shirt, play baseball, take the QB reigns, his Junior Year, after Allen wins the Heisman, and A&M is on top.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on May 28, 2014, 05:00:48 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on May 28, 2014, 04:50:41 pm
I looked him up - just more of that 2015 class A&M has committed.  He does look good - I think he'll Red Shirt, play baseball, take the reigns his Junior Year after Allen wins the Heisman.

Well, his Dad played for aTm, he was going there if I coached there. He looked more option, or Auburn type QB than a Sumlin type, but he looked good in the Allen game I watched.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 28, 2014, 05:11:01 pm
Looks like he has some physical maturing to do - 5'11", 170 lbs.  As long as he didn't go to Texas.  I am glad you told me this, I'll be passing it by my UT Coworker in a couple of hrs.  He really hates A&M, with a passion.  Hasn't dealt with A&M's success well at all..   :D
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Uncle Ivan on May 28, 2014, 07:56:41 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on May 28, 2014, 04:50:41 pm
after Allen wins the Heisman, and A&M is on top.

(http://canitbesaturdaynow.com/images/fpics/1463/1245529758005.jpg)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 28, 2014, 08:29:39 pm
Better yet -  I'll be spending tomorrow with one of those Univ Texas Alumni Billionaires (6 billion).  Maybe I should drop my Perfect Storm theory on him?  NOT   :-X
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Uncle Ivan on May 28, 2014, 09:48:27 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on May 28, 2014, 08:29:39 pm
Better yet -  I'll be spending tomorrow with one of those Univ Texas Alumni Billionaires (6 billion).  Maybe I should drop my Perfect Storm theory on him?  NOT   :-X

You're a little old for a cabana boy.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 28, 2014, 10:00:21 pm
You are correct about that - just found out he's on UT's school board.  ha ha
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Uncle Ivan on May 29, 2014, 03:39:10 am
Quote from: Valleysports on May 28, 2014, 10:00:21 pm
You are correct about that - just found out he's on UT's school board.  ha ha

Good deal.  Tell Jeff I said hello.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 29, 2014, 04:47:48 am
Hey that's pretty good Ivan - met him last night, seems like an alright guy.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on May 29, 2014, 07:15:09 am
Quote from: Valleysports on May 28, 2014, 08:29:39 pm
Better yet -  I'll be spending tomorrow with one of those Univ Texas Alumni Billionaires (6 billion).  Maybe I should drop my Perfect Storm theory on him?  NOT   :-X

Why, don't like your job, ready to retire??
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Russ PhD on May 29, 2014, 04:28:07 pm
And the hits just keep on coming...

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncfrecruiting/on-the-trail/post?id=55354

Siverand had an offer from the Hogs.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on May 29, 2014, 04:52:09 pm
Quote from: Russ PhD on May 29, 2014, 04:28:07 pm
And the hits just keep on coming...

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncfrecruiting/on-the-trail/post?id=55354

Siverand had an offer from the Hogs.

Wasn't good enough to just post it on HV?
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Russ PhD on May 29, 2014, 04:56:17 pm
Quote from: ricepig on May 29, 2014, 04:52:09 pm

Wasn't good enough to just post it on HV?

Exactly.  Two completely different audiences (IMHO), but I could be wrong.  Are you ricepig on HV?
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on May 29, 2014, 05:13:28 pm
Quote from: Russ PhD on May 29, 2014, 04:56:17 pm
Quote from: ricepig on May 29, 2014, 04:52:09 pm

Wasn't good enough to just post it on HV?

Exactly.  Two completely different audiences (IMHO), but I could be wrong.  Are you ricepig on HV?
Why would one change their name on any message board? Yep, same name on every board.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Russ PhD on May 29, 2014, 05:58:58 pm
Quote from: ricepig on May 29, 2014, 05:13:28 pm
Quote from: Russ PhD on May 29, 2014, 04:56:17 pm
Quote from: ricepig on May 29, 2014, 04:52:09 pm

Wasn't good enough to just post it on HV?

Exactly.  Two completely different audiences (IMHO), but I could be wrong.  Are you ricepig on HV?
Why would one change their name on any message board? Yep, same name on every board.
Maybe you don't post that often & forget what name you used. :)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on May 29, 2014, 06:01:52 pm
Quote from: Russ PhD on May 29, 2014, 05:58:58 pm
Quote from: ricepig on May 29, 2014, 05:13:28 pm
Quote from: Russ PhD on May 29, 2014, 04:56:17 pm
Quote from: ricepig on May 29, 2014, 04:52:09 pm

Wasn't good enough to just post it on HV?

Exactly.  Two completely different audiences (IMHO), but I could be wrong.  Are you ricepig on HV?
Why would one change their name on any message board? Yep, same name on every board.
Maybe you don't post that often & forget what name you used. :)

Oh......One figured someone with a PhD could remember something so important!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Russ PhD on May 29, 2014, 06:05:11 pm
Quote from: ricepig on May 29, 2014, 06:01:52 pm
Quote from: Russ PhD on May 29, 2014, 05:58:58 pm
Quote from: ricepig on May 29, 2014, 05:13:28 pm
Quote from: Russ PhD on May 29, 2014, 04:56:17 pm
Quote from: ricepig on May 29, 2014, 04:52:09 pm

Wasn't good enough to just post it on HV?

Exactly.  Two completely different audiences (IMHO), but I could be wrong.  Are you ricepig on HV?
Why would one change their name on any message board? Yep, same name on every board.
Maybe you don't post that often & forget what name you used. :)

Oh......One figured someone with a PhD could remember something so important!
+1

However, we might define important differently.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on May 29, 2014, 06:06:11 pm
Quote from: Russ PhD on May 29, 2014, 06:05:11 pm
Quote from: ricepig on May 29, 2014, 06:01:52 pm
Quote from: Russ PhD on May 29, 2014, 05:58:58 pm
Quote from: ricepig on May 29, 2014, 05:13:28 pm
Quote from: Russ PhD on May 29, 2014, 04:56:17 pm
Quote from: ricepig on May 29, 2014, 04:52:09 pm

Wasn't good enough to just post it on HV?

Exactly.  Two completely different audiences (IMHO), but I could be wrong.  Are you ricepig on HV?
Why would one change their name on any message board? Yep, same name on every board.
Maybe you don't post that often & forget what name you used. :)

Oh......One figured someone with a PhD could remember something so important!
+1

However, we might define important differently.

It's obviously things you can remember.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Russ PhD on May 29, 2014, 06:08:39 pm
Between HV & FF you have slightly more than 20,520 posts than I do. That probably doesn't count any resets in the post count that you might have experienced on either site.  ;D
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on May 29, 2014, 06:13:15 pm
Quote from: Russ PhD on May 29, 2014, 06:08:39 pm
Between HV & FF you have slightly more than 20,520 posts than I do. That probably doesn't count any resets in the post count that you might have experienced on either site.  ;D

Yeah, but I'm retired, haha. I don't think there's been a reset, but who knows.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Uncle Ivan on May 29, 2014, 06:27:00 pm
Could be worse - there's people in the 50,000 range.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on June 02, 2014, 05:43:24 pm
Murray's pledge could begin a domino effect that leads to the Aggies continuing to pick up steam in the form of commitments from other elite prospects.

ESPN 300 receiver Kemah Siverand, a four-star player who had several other attractive options, including LSU, Ohio State and Texas followed the day after landing Murray. 

ESPN 300 receiver DaMarkus Lodge and Cedar Hill (Texas) High teammate outside linebacker Richard Moore both indicated just hours after Murray's pledge that they'll announce their commitments on July 1.

Five-star defensive tackle Daylon Mack, who had planned summer visits to Alabama and LSU, canceled those plans after Murray's pledge. The longtime Texas A&M commitment also showed up on Twitter in a maroon shirt with the hashtag "#WRTS", which Aggies have been using since the Murray pledge (the acronym stands for "We run this state").

Other ESPN 300 recruits, like linebacker Malik Jefferson and receiver Christian Kirk,  took notice of Murray's pledge - "A&M got a great QB", replied Kirk".
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on June 02, 2014, 06:06:33 pm
So now they will take the guys Texas couldn't win with, we'll see if they can.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on June 02, 2014, 06:19:20 pm
Quote from: ricepig on June 02, 2014, 06:06:33 pm
So now they will take the guys Texas couldn't win with, we'll see if they can.

Well I finally see your way of thinking - A&M is settling for 5 Star Recruits, instead of competing with Arkansas for 2-3 Star Recruits - right?  I've said since Day 1 - "A&M moving to the SEC, is not good for Arkansas" - maybe I was wrong after all.   ;D

The Storm has just started - not even in it yet!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on June 02, 2014, 07:17:14 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on June 02, 2014, 06:19:20 pm
Quote from: ricepig on June 02, 2014, 06:06:33 pm
So now they will take the guys Texas couldn't win with, we'll see if they can.

Well I finally see your way of thinking - A&M is settling for 5 Star Recruits, instead of competing with Arkansas for 2-3 Star Recruits - right?  I've said since Day 1 - "A&M moving to the SEC, is not good for Arkansas" - maybe I was wrong after all.   ;D

The Storm has just started - not even in it yet!

When they do something, it will be the first time.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on June 02, 2014, 07:39:07 pm
Quote from: ricepig on June 02, 2014, 07:17:14 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on June 02, 2014, 06:19:20 pm
Quote from: ricepig on June 02, 2014, 06:06:33 pm
So now they will take the guys Texas couldn't win with, we'll see if they can.

Well I finally see your way of thinking - A&M is settling for 5 Star Recruits, instead of competing with Arkansas for 2-3 Star Recruits - right?  I've said since Day 1 - "A&M moving to the SEC, is not good for Arkansas" - maybe I was wrong after all.   ;D

The Storm has just started - not even in it yet!

When they do something, it will be the first time.

Good point - it's a matter of "when".   :)  Seriously A&M certainly has everything they could ask for (players, facility, money) in place - what they do with it remains to be seen.  Are Sumlin and his Assistants, legit major program caliber?  Probably the only unknown left...
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on June 02, 2014, 07:51:48 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on June 02, 2014, 07:39:07 pm
Quote from: ricepig on June 02, 2014, 07:17:14 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on June 02, 2014, 06:19:20 pm
Quote from: ricepig on June 02, 2014, 06:06:33 pm
So now they will take the guys Texas couldn't win with, we'll see if they can.

Well I finally see your way of thinking - A&M is settling for 5 Star Recruits, instead of competing with Arkansas for 2-3 Star Recruits - right?  I've said since Day 1 - "A&M moving to the SEC, is not good for Arkansas" - maybe I was wrong after all.   ;D

The Storm has just started - not even in it yet!

When they do something, it will be the first time.

Good point - it's a matter of "when".   :)  Seriously A&M certainly has everything they could ask for (players, facility, money) in place - what they do with it remains to be seen.  Are Sumlin and his Assistants, legit major program caliber?  Probably the only unknown left...

When, as in "if".
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on June 02, 2014, 07:54:56 pm
Quote from: ricepig on June 02, 2014, 07:17:14 pm
When they do something, it will be the first time.

You slipped - what you really think is on record now!  ;)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on June 02, 2014, 08:05:50 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on June 02, 2014, 07:54:56 pm
Quote from: ricepig on June 02, 2014, 07:17:14 pm
When they do something, it will be the first time.

You slipped - what you really think is on record now!  ;)

I'll be dead and buried, probably my kids too, but you keep on hoping!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on June 02, 2014, 11:51:44 pm
Quote from: ricepig on June 02, 2014, 08:05:50 pm
I'll be dead and buried, probably my kids too, but you keep on hoping!

You and Bubby with your predictions based on emotions.  ::)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on June 03, 2014, 07:06:11 am
Quote from: Valleysports on June 02, 2014, 11:51:44 pm
Quote from: ricepig on June 02, 2014, 08:05:50 pm
I'll be dead and buried, probably my kids too, but you keep on hoping!

You and Bubby with your predictions based on emotions.  ::)

History my friend, based on history.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: cuckoobird on June 03, 2014, 02:02:56 pm
If we go by history then arkansas will never be sec champs
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on June 03, 2014, 02:12:51 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on June 03, 2014, 02:02:56 pm
If we go by history then arkansas will never be sec champs

Boy, you must have taken a smart pill to figure that one out.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: cuckoobird on June 03, 2014, 02:27:21 pm
Quote from: ricepig on June 03, 2014, 02:12:51 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on June 03, 2014, 02:02:56 pm
If we go by history then arkansas will never be sec champs

Boy, you must have taken a smart pill to figure that one out.
yep, But it only lasts four hours
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on June 03, 2014, 05:18:31 pm
Your prize defense just lost two players Valley, kicked off the team. Freshman LB and DT.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/texas-a-m-dismisses-defensive-starters-darian-claiborne-and-isaiah-golden-215504290.html
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Uncle Ivan on June 03, 2014, 05:52:47 pm
Quote from: ricepig on June 03, 2014, 05:18:31 pm
Your prize defense just lost two players Valley, kicked off the team. Freshman LB and DT.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/texas-a-m-dismisses-defensive-starters-darian-claiborne-and-isaiah-golden-215504290.html

Auburn locks.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on June 03, 2014, 06:27:24 pm
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on June 03, 2014, 05:52:47 pm
Quote from: ricepig on June 03, 2014, 05:18:31 pm
Your prize defense just lost two players Valley, kicked off the team. Freshman LB and DT.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/texas-a-m-dismisses-defensive-starters-darian-claiborne-and-isaiah-golden-215504290.html

Auburn locks.

Yep, one year at JUCO, then off to Aubbie.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Uncle Ivan on June 03, 2014, 07:48:23 pm
Quote from: ricepig on June 03, 2014, 06:27:24 pm


Yep, one year at JUCO, then off to Aubbie.

With a large cash payment or two involved, as is Auburn policy.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on June 04, 2014, 06:35:13 am
Quote from: ricepig on June 03, 2014, 05:18:31 pm
Your prize defense just lost two players Valley, kicked off the team. Freshman LB and DT

My defense? lol ok dubby........  those two players were to be a big part of their future, from what I've read.  That means their top 5 class, last yr, is more like top 10.  It'll take a couple yrs anyway.  A&M also lost a top running back commit a few weeks back.  More of a running game type, Arkansas type.  There is a shop, below where I'm at IAH United Club - Aggie hats 2 for $20. Need me to get you one?
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on June 04, 2014, 06:41:33 am
Quote from: Valleysports on June 04, 2014, 06:35:13 am
Quote from: ricepig on June 03, 2014, 05:18:31 pm
Your prize defense just lost two players Valley, kicked off the team. Freshman LB and DT

My defense? lol ok dubby........  those two players were to be a big part of their future, from what I've read.  That means their top 5 class, last yr, is more like top 10.  It'll take a couple yrs anyway.  A&M also lost a top running back commit a few weeks back.  More of a running game type, Arkansas type.  There is a shop, below where I'm at IAH United Club - Aggie hats 2 for $20. Need me to get you one?

No thanks on the hats, I've got plenty of tp. I thought you were the resident Aggie fan the way you post on every recruit and tidbit, just thought I'd help you with one.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on June 04, 2014, 11:02:27 am
Quote from: ricepig on June 04, 2014, 06:41:33 am
No thanks on the hats, I've got plenty of tp. I thought you were the resident Aggie fan the way you post on every recruit and tidbit, just thought I'd help you with one.

I know - Hog Fans don't realize there is a whole nother world out there, where football fans can observe and say positive things about different teams without being some kind of traitor. lol  I need to learn more about Auburn - I like that Malzahn Coach - he's going to win wherever he goes.  I guess the closest connection to a DI team, I have, would be Baylor.  Uncles, Aunt's, Cousin's, all went there - saw them play Penn State, Cotton Bowl about 73'.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on June 04, 2014, 11:23:45 am
Quote from: Valleysports on June 04, 2014, 11:02:27 am
Quote from: ricepig on June 04, 2014, 06:41:33 am
No thanks on the hats, I've got plenty of tp. I thought you were the resident Aggie fan the way you post on every recruit and tidbit, just thought I'd help you with one.

I know - Hog Fans don't realize there is a whole nother world out there, where football fans can observe and say positive things about different teams without being some kind of traitor. lol  I need to learn more about Auburn - I like that Malzahn Coach - he's going to win wherever he goes.  I guess the closest connection to a DI team, I have, would be Baylor.  Uncles, Aunt's, Cousin's, all went there - saw them play Penn State, Cotton Bowl about 73'.

Son, we're in the SEC, we read the morning police blotter's, keep up with recruiting, and who has a hang nail for a our opponents, we just don't write about them unless they are favorable. Just like you keep up with Tech, UAM, SAU, etc....
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Fatfullback on June 04, 2014, 03:33:12 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on June 04, 2014, 11:02:27 am
Quote from: ricepig on June 04, 2014, 06:41:33 am
No thanks on the hats, I've got plenty of tp. I thought you were the resident Aggie fan the way you post on every recruit and tidbit, just thought I'd help you with one.

I know - Hog Fans don't realize there is a whole nother world out there, where football fans can observe and say positive things about different teams without being some kind of traitor. lol  I need to learn more about Auburn - I like that Malzahn Coach - he's going to win wherever he goes.  I guess the closest connection to a DI team, I have, would be Baylor.  Uncles, Aunt's, Cousin's, all went there - saw them play Penn State, Cotton Bowl about 73'.
So you was about a fifth-grader then.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: cuckoobird on June 04, 2014, 03:39:10 pm
Quote from: Fatfullback on June 04, 2014, 03:33:12 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on June 04, 2014, 11:02:27 am
Quote from: ricepig on June 04, 2014, 06:41:33 am
No thanks on the hats, I've got plenty of tp. I thought you were the resident Aggie fan the way you post on every recruit and tidbit, just thought I'd help you with one.

I know - Hog Fans don't realize there is a whole nother world out there, where football fans can observe and say positive things about different teams without being some kind of traitor. lol  I need to learn more about Auburn - I like that Malzahn Coach - he's going to win wherever he goes.  I guess the closest connection to a DI team, I have, would be Baylor.  Uncles, Aunt's, Cousin's, all went there - saw them play Penn State, Cotton Bowl about 73'.
So you was about a fifth-grader then.
and so was his fat buddy
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Fatfullback on June 04, 2014, 03:42:19 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on June 04, 2014, 03:39:10 pm
Quote from: Fatfullback on June 04, 2014, 03:33:12 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on June 04, 2014, 11:02:27 am
Quote from: ricepig on June 04, 2014, 06:41:33 am
No thanks on the hats, I've got plenty of tp. I thought you were the resident Aggie fan the way you post on every recruit and tidbit, just thought I'd help you with one.

I know - Hog Fans don't realize there is a whole nother world out there, where football fans can observe and say positive things about different teams without being some kind of traitor. lol  I need to learn more about Auburn - I like that Malzahn Coach - he's going to win wherever he goes.  I guess the closest connection to a DI team, I have, would be Baylor.  Uncles, Aunt's, Cousin's, all went there - saw them play Penn State, Cotton Bowl about 73'.
So you was about a fifth-grader then.
and so was his fat buddy
Was his buddy pretty fat?
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on June 04, 2014, 07:16:24 pm
Ha ha - dang going to have to change my name!  Now you have to understand, I take on the role of Devils Advocate, quiet often on Fearless.  Go Hogs WPS!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on June 07, 2014, 02:32:30 pm
http://www.nola.com/recruiting/index.ssf/2014/06/texas_am_without_five_of_15_fo.html
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on June 07, 2014, 03:28:11 pm
QuoteThe San Antonio Express-News reported the Aggies have lost five of the 15 four-star prospects signed in the 2013 recruiting class.

Two steps forward - 1 step back!  A&M might go winless this year  :)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on July 22, 2014, 10:49:08 am
I'm downgrading A&M's Perfect Storm to just Storm!  ::)

COLLEGE STATION, Texas -- Texas A&M defensive lineman Gavin Stansbury has left the team to focus on what coach Kevin Sumlin calls "personal issues."

Sumlin also confirmed in a statement that freshman defensive back Victor Davis has been suspended from the team after his recent arrest in his hometown of Rosenberg on a shoplifting charge.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Hoghead on July 23, 2014, 01:27:04 am
Quote from: Valleysports on July 22, 2014, 10:49:08 am
I'm downgrading A&M's Perfect Storm to just Storm!  ::)

COLLEGE STATION, Texas -- Texas A&M defensive lineman Gavin Stansbury has left the team to focus on what coach Kevin Sumlin calls "personal issues."

Sumlin also confirmed in a statement that freshman defensive back Victor Davis has been suspended from the team after his recent arrest in his hometown of Rosenberg on a shoplifting charge.


Dumb Aggies ! Noting has changed since the 70's ! Emory Ballard, Jackie Sherrill, R.C. Slocomb......It makes no difference who's at A&M the Aggies will mess it up !
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on July 23, 2014, 10:44:06 am
Sumlin would never make it at Florida State.
"Jameis Winston cited for Shoplifting - This is Winston's fourth incident in the last 18 months involving law enforcement. He was not charged or arrested in any of the cases, including a rape case."
They're going to be a couple years out anyway - might as well try to lay a foundation.

Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Hoghead on July 23, 2014, 11:03:26 am
Sumlin better hold on tight at A&M, its about to get tough in Aggieland.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Uncle Ivan on July 23, 2014, 09:43:52 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on July 23, 2014, 10:44:06 am
"Jameis Winston cited for Shoplifting - This is Winston's fourth incident in the last 18 months involving law enforcement. He was not charged or arrested in any of the cases, including a rape case."

Dumb kid needs to grow up.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on July 23, 2014, 09:45:58 pm
Lots of kids are trying real hard to become an Auburn lock.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Uncle Ivan on July 24, 2014, 03:16:48 pm
Furthermore, the po-po and the prosecutors need to stop letting him get off without any outside-football repercussions besides the public attention.  Once or twice, perhaps.  Four times?  No.

Let him sit in county lockup for a few days.  Might open his eyes.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Big Fan on July 24, 2014, 06:28:43 pm
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on July 24, 2014, 03:16:48 pm
Let him sit in county lockup for a few days.  Might open his eyes.
I doubt it....You can take the thug out of the hood, but you can't take the hood out of the thug. 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Uncle Ivan on July 24, 2014, 06:51:17 pm
Quote from: Big Fan on July 24, 2014, 06:28:43 pm
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on July 24, 2014, 03:16:48 pm
Let him sit in county lockup for a few days.  Might open his eyes.
I doubt it....You can take the thug out of the hood, but you can't take the hood out of the thug. 

Or let him discover that he's not a thug, and correct his attitude.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: DogsWin7 on July 24, 2014, 06:51:31 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on June 03, 2014, 02:02:56 pm
If we go by history then arkansas will never be sec champs

Why so negative?? 

Everyday is a new day.     You live in Arkansas....at least show a little support...it's a new year.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: DogsWin7 on July 24, 2014, 06:53:03 pm
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on July 24, 2014, 06:51:17 pm
Quote from: Big Fan on July 24, 2014, 06:28:43 pm
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on July 24, 2014, 03:16:48 pm
Let him sit in county lockup for a few days.  Might open his eyes.
I doubt it....You can take the thug out of the hood, but you can't take the hood out of the thug. 

Or let him discover that he's not a thug, and correct his attitude.

And that he has been given a chance to get his life on track and try to make the best of it....learn from his mistakes.   There's a thought.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Big Fan on July 24, 2014, 09:05:58 pm
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on July 24, 2014, 06:51:17 pm
Quote from: Big Fan on July 24, 2014, 06:28:43 pm
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on July 24, 2014, 03:16:48 pm
Let him sit in county lockup for a few days.  Might open his eyes.
I doubt it....You can take the thug out of the hood, but you can't take the hood out of the thug. 

Or let him discover that he's not a thug, and correct his attitude.
Would have never taken you for a liberal. 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Uncle Ivan on July 25, 2014, 04:05:18 pm
Quote from: Big Fan on July 24, 2014, 09:05:58 pm

Would have never taken you for a liberal. 

No, merely experienced from seeing it in person enough times.  As a talented athlete, Winston's probably never heard the word "no".  An attitude adjustment would do good for him, I think.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Big Fan on July 25, 2014, 09:50:47 pm
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on July 25, 2014, 04:05:18 pm
Quote from: Big Fan on July 24, 2014, 09:05:58 pm

Would have never taken you for a liberal. 

No, merely experienced from seeing it in person enough times.  As a talented politician, Obama's probably never heard the word "no".  An attitude adjustment would do good for him, I think.
fify
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on July 25, 2014, 11:28:28 pm
Texas football coach Charlie Strong has kicked at least six players off the team since becoming coach, in addition to suspending two Longhorns players Thursday after they were arrested on charges of sexual assault.

Safety Josh Turner, running back Jalen Overstreet and defensive back Chevoski Collins have been dismissed from the program for violating team rules, multiple sources told ESPN.com on Friday.

Senior running back Joe Bergeronwas also dismissed from the program, according to Orangebloods.com and multiple media outlets Friday.

Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on July 26, 2014, 09:32:02 am
I think aTm, Texsa, and Georgia may play 7 on 7 this fall, due to roster depletion.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Uncle Ivan on July 26, 2014, 06:41:39 pm
Quote from: Big Fan on July 25, 2014, 09:50:47 pm
As a talented politician, Obama's probably never heard the word "no".

I said this word for word in a conversation the other day.

Quote from: Valleysports on July 25, 2014, 11:28:28 pm
Texas football coach Charlie Strong has kicked at least six players off the team since becoming coach, in addition to suspending two Longhorns players Thursday after they were arrested on charges of sexual assault.

Safety Josh Turner, running back Jalen Overstreet and defensive back Chevoski Collins have been dismissed from the program for violating team rules, multiple sources told ESPN.com on Friday.

Senior running back Joe Bergeronwas also dismissed from the program, according to Orangebloods.com and multiple media outlets Friday.

Texas has been a spoiled, entitled team in recent years under Brown.  Strong's discipline will do them well down the road.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: mack on July 27, 2014, 07:12:50 pm
Quote from: Russ PhD on May 13, 2014, 10:57:48 pm
Ok. I spent five years in Aggieland getting two grad degrees, but I don't think I can match Valley's enthusiasm.

Here are my thoughts on a few things:

(1) 41-26-3. This is the historical advantage of the Hogs over A&M.
    A. During the 1946-1970 (A&M was still all male with required ROTC for this period), the Hogs were 18-5-2 (+13). This period accounts for any historical advantage that Arkansas has.
    B. If you truly believe that the A&M today is the same as the A&M of the 40's, 50's, and 60's, then you are out of touch. It has over 50,000 students on campus today. There were slightly over 10,000 in 1970. The population base for recruiting good football players is HUGE compared to the Hogs.

(2) About 5 years ago (if old posts hang around that long), I posted that I would be surprised if either team had more than 6 wins in the Southwest Classic after 10 years. I am not sure I believe that anymore.
    A. Whether you understand the politics of it or not, A&M was under the thumb of the 'horns while they were connected in an athletic conference. As Hog fans, you KNOW how crooked the officiating and league officials are with respect to the 'horns. That was just SOP for conferences that were "graced" by the goodness of God to have Texas with them.
    B. Now that A&M has stepped into the SEC, the potential of the university is no longer held back by a lying, cheating, ... Texas athletic department and administration.

(3) The OL talent at A&M is STILL there.
    A. Cedric Ogbuehi is currently projected as the top OT for the 2015 draft (http://nfl.si.com/2014/05/13/2015-nfl-mock-draft-cedric-ogbuehi/).
    B. Mike Mathews will be an NFL 1st rounder in 2 years (son of HOF Bruce Mathews, younger brother of 2 NFL OL - Kevin and Jake).
    C. The top JC OL Jermaine Eluemunor decommitted from the Hogs and went through spring practice with the Ags.
    D. A couple of top HS signed with the Ags in February.

(4) There is plenty of QB talent at A&M and Sumlin's offense knows how to use them.
    A. Kenny Hill is a dual threat and was highly recruited by every school in this region.
    B. Kyle Allen was the #1 pro-style QB in 2014 and was early enrolled. He looked outstanding in spring practice - which caused the RS Sr QB to transfer.

(5) There are plenty of WR at A&M. Don't kid yourself that Mike Evans was a one-man band.

(6) A&M signed the top defensive player in the country (Miles Garrett) in February and defense has been the focus of recruiting the last 2 years by Sumlin and his staff.

(7) Sumlin decided to take his lumps on defense and red-shirted 2 DL this fall. They were in camp and much bigger and stronger during spring drills.

****

ON the Hog front, you have Bert Bielema now discussing a 5-yr plan (like the old Soviet Union). I learn toward the Ags having more success over the next couple of years than the Hogs. However, I will admit to being a homer who just outlined 7 reasons for it.



That was about like trying to read every book in Game of Thrones. 

History is more compelling than your theorizing.  History will soon be repeating itself with us beating TAM more often than we lose to them. 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on July 27, 2014, 07:37:21 pm
I think it's more like Central High or Little Rock Football, in Arkansas, history don't mean &^%$^%.  LOL
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Hoghead on July 28, 2014, 12:26:45 am
Quote from: Valleysports on July 27, 2014, 07:37:21 pm
I think it's more like Central High or Little Rock Football, in Arkansas, history don't mean &^%$^%.  LOL

It's relevent with you it seems. So what are you denying about LR Central in its glory years of championships ? They are clearly more relevent than Aggie Football.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: rougarou on July 28, 2014, 04:37:28 am
You tell him Pops!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: mack on July 28, 2014, 08:14:22 am
Quote from: Valleysports on July 27, 2014, 07:37:21 pm
I think it's more like Central High or Little Rock Football, in Arkansas, history don't mean &^%$^%.  LOL

Ah, weedhopper, you look, but you do not see. 

Infrastructure and community support disappeared from LRC many years back.  Prior to that they had it all.   They are not what they were.  TAM and Arkansas are who we thought they were, and will continue to be [sort of paraphrasing Dennis Erickson].  Both will have ups and downs, with no SEC championships in the near future.  We'll start dominating them again starting this year.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on July 28, 2014, 08:51:03 am
Quote from: mack on July 28, 2014, 08:14:22 am
Quote from: Valleysports on July 27, 2014, 07:37:21 pm
I think it's more like Central High or Little Rock Football, in Arkansas, history don't mean &^%$^%.  LOL

Ah, weedhopper, you look, but you do not see. 

Infrastructure and community support disappeared from LRC many years back.  Prior to that they had it all.   They are not what they were.  TAM and Arkansas are who we thought they were, and will continue to be [sort of paraphrasing Dennis Erickson].  Both will have ups and downs, with no SEC championships in the near future.  We'll start dominating them again starting this year.

Thank you - History doesn't win games - infrastructure, support, recruiting, coaching, win games.

QuoteHistory is more compelling than your theorizing.  History will soon be repeating itself with us beating TAM more often than we lose to them.

A&M's infrastructure, support, etc.., changed significantly, when they became - The only SEC Team in Texas.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on July 28, 2014, 09:43:31 am
They've recruited more 4* & 5* thugs they've had to dismiss, is that the change?
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: AirWarren on July 28, 2014, 10:51:10 am
I bought into the A&m hype early. However, with the sinking ship that is in Texas Longhorn football, I fully suspect the gaggies to fold in the SEC pretty soon. Especially with the departure of Johnny Doucherr in Cleveland cancerizing that program.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Hoghead on July 28, 2014, 12:28:18 pm
How do you cancerize the Cleveland Browns ? They've been a 50 year tire fire in the NFL ! LOL !!!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on July 28, 2014, 12:28:37 pm
Well I wouldn't expect anything but irrationalism from the Hog Farm, on an Arkansas Forum.   ;D.  Yes ricepig, recruiting a dozen more 4* & 5*, each class - cutting 3 or 4 is a huge change.  Otherwise they'd be the same as Arkansas  - imagine those 75%, 5*, non thugs, going to Arkansas every season.  You just told me this is why Malzahn wins at Auburn. 

AW - one of the best things for A&M, is the Longhorn sinking ship.  A&M isn't even having to recruit - potential Longhorns are going Aggie.  Y'all better beat A&M, while you got a shot - otherwise history might continue to look like Texas High vs Texarkana High.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Hoghead on July 28, 2014, 12:42:35 pm
With all that Talent in Texas its amazing that since 1969 The Longhorns won only one National Championship ? A&M hasn't won anything in the same time frame. Texas went 36 years and a bucket full of coaches before Mac Brown fell face first into a Title. The Aggies will fire Sumlin in 3 years as mediocrity and Arkansas kicks them into the SEC Cellar ! The Hogs own Texas A&M !
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on July 28, 2014, 01:12:43 pm
Quote from: Hoghead on July 28, 2014, 12:42:35 pm
With all that Talent in Texas its amazing that since 1969 The Longhorns won only one National Championship ? A&M hasn't won anything in the same time frame. Texas went 36 years and a bucket full of coaches before Mac Brown fell face first into a Title. The Aggies will fire Sumlin in 3 years as mediocrity and Arkansas kicks them into the SEC Cellar ! The Hogs own Texas A&M !

Ha ha - you old farts sure live in the past...  I get it though, history victories, moral victories, forum victories, got to take what you can get.  Didn't you see the warning - past performance is no indication of future earnings?  FYI - Arkansas got to get out of the cellar before they can kick someone into it.  0-8 Hog Fans talking smack!   ;D
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on July 28, 2014, 01:21:18 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on July 28, 2014, 01:12:43 pm
Quote from: Hoghead on July 28, 2014, 12:42:35 pm
With all that Talent in Texas its amazing that since 1969 The Longhorns won only one National Championship ? A&M hasn't won anything in the same time frame. Texas went 36 years and a bucket full of coaches before Mac Brown fell face first into a Title. The Aggies will fire Sumlin in 3 years as mediocrity and Arkansas kicks them into the SEC Cellar ! The Hogs own Texas A&M !

Ha ha - you old farts sure live in the past...  I get it though, history victories, moral victories, forum victories, got to take what you can get.  Didn't you see the warning - past performance is no indication of future earnings?  FYI - Arkansas got to get out of the cellar before they can kick someone into it.  0-8 Hog Fans talking smack!   ;D

If they're such a top notch program, why are they picked in the cellar with us? Why, because they're Aggies, that's why, haha.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: mack on July 28, 2014, 01:24:00 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on July 28, 2014, 01:12:43 pm
Quote from: Hoghead on July 28, 2014, 12:42:35 pm
With all that Talent in Texas its amazing that since 1969 The Longhorns won only one National Championship ? A&M hasn't won anything in the same time frame. Texas went 36 years and a bucket full of coaches before Mac Brown fell face first into a Title. The Aggies will fire Sumlin in 3 years as mediocrity and Arkansas kicks them into the SEC Cellar ! The Hogs own Texas A&M !

Ha ha - you old farts sure live in the past...  I get it though, history victories, moral victories, forum victories, got to take what you can get.  Didn't you see the warning - past performance is no indication of future earnings?  FYI - Arkansas got to get out of the cellar before they can kick someone into it.  0-8 Hog Fans talking smack!   ;D

Just don't duck and hide when we kick TAMs behind.  You're a big old boy.  You need to stand up and take your medicine like a man.  They'll be plenty of doctors on call to give it to you.  Dr. Mack is taking new patients now......
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Hoghead on July 28, 2014, 02:35:43 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on July 28, 2014, 01:12:43 pm
Quote from: Hoghead on July 28, 2014, 12:42:35 pm
With all that Talent in Texas its amazing that since 1969 The Longhorns won only one National Championship ? A&M hasn't won anything in the same time frame. Texas went 36 years and a bucket full of coaches before Mac Brown fell face first into a Title. The Aggies will fire Sumlin in 3 years as mediocrity and Arkansas kicks them into the SEC Cellar ! The Hogs own Texas A&M !

Ha ha - you old farts sure live in the past...  I get it though, history victories, moral victories, forum victories, got to take what you can get.  Didn't you see the warning - past performance is no indication of future earnings?  FYI - Arkansas got to get out of the cellar before they can kick someone into it.  0-8 Hog Fans talking smack!   ;D
Well the Aggies Future is 15 games behind the Hogs in the 70 game series. The Hogs lead it 41-26-3. The Aggies were kicked to sleep by the Hogs in the SWC. The Hogs will continue to own the Aggies !
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: 7AFBFAN on July 28, 2014, 02:51:26 pm
Quote from: Hoghead on July 28, 2014, 12:28:18 pm
How do you cancerize the Cleveland Browns ? They've been a 50 year tire fire in the NFL ! LOL !!!

Actually the old Cleveland Browns franchise is in Baltimore and recently won a super bowl.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Hoghead on July 28, 2014, 04:25:10 pm
Quote from: 7AFBFAN on July 28, 2014, 02:51:26 pm
Quote from: Hoghead on July 28, 2014, 12:28:18 pm
How do you cancerize the Cleveland Browns ? They've been a 50 year tire fire in the NFL ! LOL !!!

Actually the old Cleveland Browns franchise is in Baltimore and recently won a super bowl.
True....Jim Brown won one NFL Title in Cleveland as well. Other than the Brian Sipe and Bernie Kosar Browns after the good Jim Brown teams, Cleveland has been one big sink hole of worthless Brown Teams.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: AirWarren on July 28, 2014, 04:34:44 pm
Quote from: Hoghead on July 28, 2014, 02:35:43 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on July 28, 2014, 01:12:43 pm
Quote from: Hoghead on July 28, 2014, 12:42:35 pm
With all that Talent in Texas its amazing that since 1969 The Longhorns won only one National Championship ? A&M hasn't won anything in the same time frame. Texas went 36 years and a bucket full of coaches before Mac Brown fell face first into a Title. The Aggies will fire Sumlin in 3 years as mediocrity and Arkansas kicks them into the SEC Cellar ! The Hogs own Texas A&M !

Ha ha - you old farts sure live in the past...  I get it though, history victories, moral victories, forum victories, got to take what you can get.  Didn't you see the warning - past performance is no indication of future earnings?  FYI - Arkansas got to get out of the cellar before they can kick someone into it.  0-8 Hog Fans talking smack!   ;D
Well the Aggies Future is 15 games behind the Hogs in the 70 game series. The Hogs lead it 41-26-3. The Aggies were kicked to sleep by the Hogs in the SWC. The Hogs will continue to own the Aggies !

The hogs will continue to slap the aggies to sleep. Bank on it!

Valley, I would be the slightest bit worried if the series wasn't already 41-26-3 in the HOGS favor! Pistol whip history by a mediocre SEC school. Those slappies in college station led by head slappy sumlin better pick it up a notch, :D
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: AirWarren on July 28, 2014, 04:35:10 pm
Quote from: Hoghead on July 28, 2014, 12:28:18 pm
How do you cancerize the Cleveland Browns ? They've been a 50 year tire fire in the NFL ! LOL !!!

Very true. Kid is still a punk though.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: phdefense on July 28, 2014, 05:28:48 pm
Quote from: 7AFBFAN on July 28, 2014, 02:51:26 pm
Quote from: Hoghead on July 28, 2014, 12:28:18 pm
How do you cancerize the Cleveland Browns ? They've been a 50 year tire fire in the NFL ! LOL !!!

Actually the old Cleveland Browns franchise is in Baltimore and recently won a super bowl.
Proof that if you take the Browns out of Cleveland, you can take the Cleveland out of the Browns.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on July 28, 2014, 07:37:16 pm
Quote from: Hoghead on July 28, 2014, 02:35:43 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on July 28, 2014, 01:12:43 pm
Quote from: Hoghead on July 28, 2014, 12:42:35 pm
With all that Talent in Texas its amazing that since 1969 The Longhorns won only one National Championship ? A&M hasn't won anything in the same time frame. Texas went 36 years and a bucket full of coaches before Mac Brown fell face first into a Title. The Aggies will fire Sumlin in 3 years as mediocrity and Arkansas kicks them into the SEC Cellar ! The Hogs own Texas A&M !

Ha ha - you old farts sure live in the past...  I get it though, history victories, moral victories, forum victories, got to take what you can get.  Didn't you see the warning - past performance is no indication of future earnings?  FYI - Arkansas got to get out of the cellar before they can kick someone into it.  0-8 Hog Fans talking smack!   ;D
Well the Aggies Future is 15 games behind the Hogs in the 70 game series. The Hogs lead it 41-26-3. The Aggies were kicked to sleep by the Hogs in the SWC. The Hogs will continue to own the Aggies !

How many games does Bentonville High trail South Side?  Bentonville was kicked to sleep in the 5A.  The Rebels will continue to own the Tigers! 

Mack you know I've never had problems eating Crow, been wondering what it taste like anyway.  A true football program isn't built over night - they've been getting all that infrastructure in place (Johnny was fun), now they're building a foundation (players & stadium), they'll either be a Top 5 or the most underperforming college team in the near future.  Time line - A&M's program will rise, in step, with their freshman QB (Kyle Allen) - even if he isn't the starter this year.   

Quote from: ricepig on July 28, 2014, 01:21:18 pm
If they're such a top notch program, why are they picked in the cellar with us? Why, because they're Aggies, that's why, haha.

Playing Stupid isn't becoming to you ricepig - stay with 5 star thugs or past history, but leave the clueless act somewhere on the 4A Board.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on July 28, 2014, 07:50:58 pm
You mean top 5 teams just don't reload? I don't see where Bama is picked at the bottom, or FSU, or LSU. When they do something more than a one year wonder, I mean, we at least had two, then I'll agree with you.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on July 28, 2014, 08:15:12 pm
Quote from: ricepig on July 28, 2014, 07:50:58 pm
You mean top 5 teams just don't reload? I don't see where Bama is picked at the bottom, or FSU, or LSU. When they do something more than a one year wonder, I mean, we at least had two, then I'll agree with you.

You aren't going to give the act up are you? 

Oh they've reloaded alright - best freshman class ever!  4 yrs from now, when they reload, they won't be relying on a freshmen class for the next season.  It'll be the 2016 (top 5) class and 2017 (top 5) class carrying the load - that's when you'll realize the balance has shifted. Just give it time - honestly 4 yrs. 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on July 28, 2014, 08:21:40 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on July 28, 2014, 08:15:12 pm
Quote from: ricepig on July 28, 2014, 07:50:58 pm
You mean top 5 teams just don't reload? I don't see where Bama is picked at the bottom, or FSU, or LSU. When they do something more than a one year wonder, I mean, we at least had two, then I'll agree with you.

You aren't going to give the act up are you? 

Oh they've reloaded alright - best freshman class ever!  4 yrs from now, when they reload, they won't be relying on a freshmen class for the next season.  It'll be the 2016 (top 5) class and 2017 (top 5) class carrying the load - that's when you'll realize the balance has shifted. Just give it time - honestly 4 yrs.

Oh, ok, now it's give it 4 years......I guess we'll have time to discuss other subjects in these 4 years.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on July 28, 2014, 09:36:56 pm
When have I ever said anything less (c'mon RP) - Two to three years to be in the thick of it - four years to be a team comparable to Alabama. It's you who moves the goal post - in one post you write Top Notch Program, the next you're talking about .500 in the SEC, the next simply beating the Hog's.  Yep we definitely have time to discuss other programs - Rome wasn't built in a day.  LOL
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Hoghead on July 28, 2014, 11:43:57 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on July 28, 2014, 08:15:12 pm
Quote from: ricepig on July 28, 2014, 07:50:58 pm
You mean top 5 teams just don't reload? I don't see where Bama is picked at the bottom, or FSU, or LSU. When they do something more than a one year wonder, I mean, we at least had two, then I'll agree with you.

You aren't going to give the act up are you? 

Oh they've reloaded alright - best freshman class ever!  4 yrs from now, when they reload, they won't be relying on a freshmen class for the next season.  It'll be the 2016 (top 5) class and 2017 (top 5) class carrying the load - that's when you'll realize the balance has shifted. Just give it time - honestly 4 yrs. 

So you figure these 18 year olds can stay out of trouble ? Then make a run for a National Title by the time they're 22 ? Only vaunted programs who know how to cheat can pull this off. Miami, Okalhoma, FSU, Bama & Auburn can do it. The Aggies ? NOOOOOOOOOOO WAAAAAAAAAAY ! They'll tell on themselves, rob a liquor store, ATM theft and Arson at Bob's Burger Bar, Late Night beat downs at the dorm and frat fights will stop all of the Aggies run to being great ! Watch this Sea Pig outfit drown !!!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on July 29, 2014, 01:54:10 am
See that Ricepig?  Hoghead makes a much better case than claiming you don't understand how picking an All Star Team four years, in a row, will make a difference!  Ha ha  Silly Hog Fans!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: mack on July 29, 2014, 01:23:19 pm
Quote from: Hoghead on July 28, 2014, 11:43:57 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on July 28, 2014, 08:15:12 pm
Quote from: ricepig on July 28, 2014, 07:50:58 pm
You mean top 5 teams just don't reload? I don't see where Bama is picked at the bottom, or FSU, or LSU. When they do something more than a one year wonder, I mean, we at least had two, then I'll agree with you.

You aren't going to give the act up are you? 

Oh they've reloaded alright - best freshman class ever!  4 yrs from now, when they reload, they won't be relying on a freshmen class for the next season.  It'll be the 2016 (top 5) class and 2017 (top 5) class carrying the load - that's when you'll realize the balance has shifted. Just give it time - honestly 4 yrs. 

So you figure these 18 year olds can stay out of trouble ? Then make a run for a National Title by the time they're 22 ? Only vaunted programs who know how to cheat can pull this off. Miami, Okalhoma, FSU, Bama & Auburn can do it. The Aggies ? NOOOOOOOOOOO WAAAAAAAAAAY ! They'll tell on themselves, rob a liquor store, ATM theft and Arson at Bob's Burger Bar, Late Night beat downs at the dorm and frat fights will stop all of the Aggies run to being great ! Watch this Sea Pig outfit drown !!!

Actually Hoghead, pigs can swim very well.  My wife and I swam with some off a tiny Carribean island called Staniel Cay...................

http://youtu.be/Dh87n0TXcgw

Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Hoghead on July 29, 2014, 04:12:38 pm
Cool Valley , but a Sea Pig outfit is Navy Airedale talk for a messed up squadron that can't fly !
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: cuckoobird on July 30, 2014, 06:54:24 am
Description seams to fit our offense
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on July 30, 2014, 12:15:47 pm
Quote from: Hoghead on July 29, 2014, 04:12:38 pm
Cool Valley , but a Sea Pig outfit is Navy Airedale talk for a messed up squadron that can't fly !

Well anyway - A&M's living Fat off the Hog's, since coming to the SEC!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: mack on July 30, 2014, 09:03:28 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on July 30, 2014, 12:15:47 pm
Quote from: Hoghead on July 29, 2014, 04:12:38 pm
Cool Valley , but a Sea Pig outfit is Navy Airedale talk for a messed up squadron that can't fly !

Well anyway - A&M's living Fat off the Hog's, since coming to the SEC!

And that's been what, two years.....   :-)

Actually, Manziel was the one feasting.  Let's see how they do without him.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on July 30, 2014, 09:35:01 pm
This is a whole lot bigger than Manziel - A&M was supposed to struggle for the first few years in the SEC.  Manziel was just a catalyst who kicked off what will become known as one of the greatest ...........  and second thought, I'm going to make you wait for "the rest of the story".
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: mack on July 31, 2014, 07:33:38 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on July 30, 2014, 09:35:01 pm
This is a whole lot bigger than Manziel - A&M was supposed to struggle for the first few years in the SEC.  Manziel was just a catalyst who kicked off what will become known as one of the greatest ...........  and second thought, I'm going to make you wait for "the rest of the story".

I am going to own everything you got when we start betting this year :-)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on July 31, 2014, 09:56:49 pm
Ha ha - well I reckon you need a little help paying that new house off.  I see you trying to hedge "this year" in there.   ::) 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: AirWarren on August 01, 2014, 09:03:07 am
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/texas-a-m-s-renovated-football-complex-is-extremely-impressive--video-photos-214736505.html

Impressive.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: mack on August 01, 2014, 09:46:41 am
Quote from: Valleysports on July 31, 2014, 09:56:49 pm
Ha ha - well I reckon you need a little help paying that new house off.  I see you trying to hedge "this year" in there.   ::) 

Actually, I'm mainly after the rights to all your crappie holes,,,, the rest will just be gravy!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Uncle Ivan on August 01, 2014, 07:33:01 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on August 01, 2014, 09:03:07 am
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/texas-a-m-s-renovated-football-complex-is-extremely-impressive--video-photos-214736505.html

Impressive.

Amusing seeing this photo in the middle of one of those slideshows:

(http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/VRTLKAOTUZKEoh86ptWWiA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTYyNztweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz0xMjAw/http://l5.yimg.com/av/moneyball/ads/-1405003743-4253.jpg)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 01, 2014, 08:33:09 pm
Infrastructure
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Uncle Ivan on August 02, 2014, 08:20:27 pm
From watching the Duke-A&M game tonight, it looked like the zebras really bailed Aggy out on Duke's last drive.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: AirWarren on August 03, 2014, 12:15:57 am
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on August 01, 2014, 07:33:01 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on August 01, 2014, 09:03:07 am
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/texas-a-m-s-renovated-football-complex-is-extremely-impressive--video-photos-214736505.html

Impressive.

Amusing seeing this photo in the middle of one of those slideshows:

(http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/VRTLKAOTUZKEoh86ptWWiA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTYyNztweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz0xMjAw/http://l5.yimg.com/av/moneyball/ads/-1405003743-4253.jpg)

Thought so too.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 03, 2014, 04:33:18 pm
The Aggie Football Team will be introduced to a state-of-the-art headquarters and locker room, part of an ongoing $16 million renovation of the Bright Complex (separate from the $450 million renovation of Kyle Field).

Is college football bringing in that much money?  Seems a bit a excessive.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Uncle Ivan on August 03, 2014, 06:02:41 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on August 03, 2014, 04:33:18 pm
The Aggie Football Team will be introduced to a state-of-the-art headquarters and locker room, part of an ongoing $16 million renovation of the Bright Complex (separate from the $450 million renovation of Kyle Field).

Is college football bringing in that much money?  Seems a bit a excessive.

Aggy has stupid money.  Has for a long time.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Rulesman on August 03, 2014, 09:33:12 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on August 03, 2014, 04:33:18 pm

Is college football bringing in that much money?
What rock have you been living under?
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Russ PhD on August 03, 2014, 10:24:11 pm
Just a note an A&M's alumni base...

In 1970, the enrollment was ~14,000. Today, it is close 59,000 with a projected growth to around 75,000 students by about 2030. The number of living former students is growing at a fast pace (already around 350,000), and the number of Aggies reaching their peak earning years has not leveled out yet. The funding for the $450 million expansion has been pledged already and a significant portion has been collected. So, I don't know if there is that much money for some college football programs, but the Ags are taking out their checkbooks.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: AirWarren on August 03, 2014, 11:47:49 pm
Quote from: Russ PhD on August 03, 2014, 10:24:11 pm
Just a note an A&M's alumni base...

In 1970, the enrollment was ~14,000. Today, it is close 59,000 with a projected growth to around 75,000 students by about 2030. The number of living former students is growing at a fast pace (already around 350,000), and the number of Aggies reaching their peak earning years has not leveled out yet. The funding for the $450 million expansion has been pledged already and a significant portion has been collected. So, I don't know if there is that much money for some college football programs, but the Ags are taking out their checkbooks.

Texas oil money>Walmart/Tyson/Jb hunt money
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 04, 2014, 05:11:44 am
Quote from: Rulesman on August 03, 2014, 09:33:12 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on August 03, 2014, 04:33:18 pm

Is college football bringing in that much money?
What rock have you been living under?

I didn't ask if the Aggie's could pay for it, I asked - Rulesman - if college football brings in that much money!
Aggie's play 6 games, at Kyle Field, per year - how long will it take to recover $500 million while at the same
time covering current budget and the other sports?  If the answer is that the Alumni cover it and a monetary
return on investment isn't part of the equation - then just say so.  I hear a lot of complaining, coming from the
Hog Pen, every time ticket prices are increased to help with a couple million $ project.

 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on August 04, 2014, 06:30:10 am
Quote from: Valleysports on August 04, 2014, 05:11:44 am
Quote from: Rulesman on August 03, 2014, 09:33:12 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on August 03, 2014, 04:33:18 pm

Is college football bringing in that much money?
What rock have you been living under?

I didn't ask if the Aggie's could pay for it, I asked - Rulesman - if college football brings in that much money!
Aggie's play 6 games, at Kyle Field, per year - how long will it take to recover $500 million while at the same
time covering current budget and the other sports?  If the answer is that the Alumni cover it and a monetary
return on investment isn't part of the equation - then just say so.  I hear a lot of complaining, coming from the
Hog Pen, every time ticket prices are increased to help with a couple million $ project.



We, Arkansas, have some of the cheapest, middle of the pack, tickets in the SEC. We haven't raised prices since 2010, so, now when have you heard someone complain? Your shtick is getting old and stale, but I guess that's you.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Rulesman on August 04, 2014, 07:52:41 am
Quote from: Valleysports on August 04, 2014, 05:11:44 am
Quote from: Rulesman on August 03, 2014, 09:33:12 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on August 03, 2014, 04:33:18 pm

Is college football bringing in that much money?
What rock have you been living under?
I didn't ask if the Aggie's could pay for it, I asked - Rulesman - if college football brings in that much money!
Look at the revenue sharing the conferences get from the TV contracts to answer your question. Oh, and don't forget seat licenses and big donor suites. How's that rock this morning?
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 04, 2014, 09:18:34 am
Quote from: ricepig on August 04, 2014, 06:30:10 am
We, Arkansas, have some of the cheapest, middle of the pack, tickets in the SEC. We haven't raised prices since 2010, so, now when have you heard someone complain? Your shtick is getting old and stale, but I guess that's you.

I didn't say anything about the price of your seats - I said I hear the whining, from Arkansas Fans, and it's been more recent than 2010.  I hear it on Drive by Radio or whatever it's called, the one Matt Jones is on.  It was an every day discussion the last time there was even talk of raising ticket prices.  Does that embarrass you or something?  Why you got to start throwing personal insults?  There's no need for that kind of behavior Ricepig.  :-\
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 04, 2014, 09:30:54 am
Quote from: Rulesman on August 04, 2014, 07:52:41 am
Look at the revenue sharing the conferences get from the TV contracts to answer your question. Oh, and don't forget seat licenses and big donor suites. How's that rock this morning?

Has the A&M Reality sunk in a bit (got under skin), with AirWarren's post showing A&M's Facility. 

I'm fully aware of the SEC sending 20+ million to each team and all.  That's the SEC, how much did Arkansas make off football last year?
This morning I was chatting with an old coach, who told me two of his friends are A&M alumni, right here in Russellville.  One
gives 1 million per year - the other gives a couple million every few years or so.  That's wild!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on August 04, 2014, 09:35:08 am
Quote from: Valleysports on August 04, 2014, 09:18:34 am
Quote from: ricepig on August 04, 2014, 06:30:10 am
We, Arkansas, have some of the cheapest, middle of the pack, tickets in the SEC. We haven't raised prices since 2010, so, now when have you heard someone complain? Your shtick is getting old and stale, but I guess that's you.

I didn't say anything about the price of your seats - I said I hear the whining, from Arkansas Fans, and it's been more recent than 2010.  I hear it on Drive by Radio or whatever it's called, the one Matt Jones is on.  It was an every day discussion the last time there was even talk of raising ticket prices.  Does that embarrass you or something?  Now Mr. Democrat, why you got to start throwing personal insults?  But then again - that is you!

You get your info from talk radio, explains a lot. A simple search of the internet would have given you the answer, but then you couldn't get a little insult in that way. Shtick is a personal insult, now look who's the Democrat worrying about feelings, haha. I guess I should've said trolling, sorry to hurt your delicate feelings.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 04, 2014, 09:40:22 am
Quote from: ricepig on August 04, 2014, 09:35:08 am
Quote from: Valleysports on August 04, 2014, 09:18:34 am
Quote from: ricepig on August 04, 2014, 06:30:10 am
We, Arkansas, have some of the cheapest, middle of the pack, tickets in the SEC. We haven't raised prices since 2010, so, now when have you heard someone complain? Your shtick is getting old and stale, but I guess that's you.

I didn't say anything about the price of your seats - I said I hear the whining, from Arkansas Fans, and it's been more recent than 2010.  I hear it on Drive by Radio or whatever it's called, the one Matt Jones is on.  It was an every day discussion the last time there was even talk of raising ticket prices.  Does that embarrass you or something?  Now Mr. Democrat, why you got to start throwing personal insults?  But then again - that is you!

You get your info from talk radio, explains a lot. A simple search of the internet would have given you the answer, but then you couldn't get a little insult in that way. Shtick is a personal insult, now look who's the Democrat worrying about feelings, haha. I guess I should've said trolling, sorry to hurt your delicate feelings.

Ha ha my feelings are hurt?  Please continue with your little tantrum!

QuoteYou get your info from talk radio, explains a lot
Well yes - Hog Fans call in to discuss (live) the Hog's all day long.  Perhaps you should tune in? lol
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on August 04, 2014, 09:50:55 am
Quote from: Valleysports on August 04, 2014, 09:40:22 am
Quote from: ricepig on August 04, 2014, 09:35:08 am
Quote from: Valleysports on August 04, 2014, 09:18:34 am
Quote from: ricepig on August 04, 2014, 06:30:10 am
We, Arkansas, have some of the cheapest, middle of the pack, tickets in the SEC. We haven't raised prices since 2010, so, now when have you heard someone complain? Your shtick is getting old and stale, but I guess that's you.

I didn't say anything about the price of your seats - I said I hear the whining, from Arkansas Fans, and it's been more recent than 2010.  I hear it on Drive by Radio or whatever it's called, the one Matt Jones is on.  It was an every day discussion the last time there was even talk of raising ticket prices.  Does that embarrass you or something?  Now Mr. Democrat, why you got to start throwing personal insults?  But then again - that is you!

You get your info from talk radio, explains a lot. A simple search of the internet would have given you the answer, but then you couldn't get a little insult in that way. Shtick is a personal insult, now look who's the Democrat worrying about feelings, haha. I guess I should've said trolling, sorry to hurt your delicate feelings.

Ha ha my feelings are hurt?  Please continue with your little tantrum!

Tantrum, nah, just correcting your ignorance, or lack of knowledge on the subject of Arkansas ticket prices.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 04, 2014, 09:58:33 am
You're saying that those Hog Fans, calling in, complaining on talk radio ......  don't count?  What?
It's no big deal Ricepig - I wouldn't have mentioned it, off the cuff, if I'd known it was going to
upset you so much.  Have you corrected me or just posted something
about the price of seats?  You're cute when you get upset, but just because you want something to be
a certain way doesn't make it so.   :D 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 04, 2014, 10:15:38 am
What were we talking about anyway - yes, the way colleges drop $500 million on athletic upgrades,
just seems a bit much too me - seeing how tuition just keeps going through the roof.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: HorseFeathers on August 04, 2014, 11:02:11 am
Valley if it makes you feel better, I heard the same stuff on multiple call in shows. Of course between that and the people crying about taking OUR games away from Little Rock the call in shows get rather dull during the offseason..
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on August 04, 2014, 11:07:45 am
Quote from: Valleysports on August 04, 2014, 09:58:33 am
You're saying that those Hog Fans, calling in, complaining on talk radio ......  don't count?  What?
It's no big deal Ricepig - I wouldn't have mentioned it, off the cuff, if I'd known it was going to
upset you so much.  Have you corrected me or just posted something
about the price of seats?  You're cute when you get upset, but just because you want something to be
a certain way doesn't make it so.   :D

Ticket prices went from $35 to $45 in 2008, in 2010, they went from $45 to $55 for SEC games and stayed the same for non-cons. A season ticket for the 6 Fayetteville games is $300, or $50 average. There will be 3 SEC games and 3 no-one, do I need to do the math for you?
As far as people calling in to sports shows, well, they have to gripe about something, but ticket prices haven't increased since 2010.

http://archive.thv11.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=99914
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on August 04, 2014, 11:10:57 am
And to answer your question on $500mil for improvements, yeah, it seems outlandish, but I guess they have the money. Most people are talking about attendance problems, especially the rent a win games, but the TV money is too great to pass up.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: RTF on August 04, 2014, 11:33:43 am
i don't know about 4 years down the road, however, I do think A&M will finish at the bottom of the SEC West this year with the Hogs. (No Manziel=big problems)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: DogsWin7 on August 04, 2014, 12:09:01 pm
I hope the Aggies lose every freakin game.  I don't care if they have the Taj Mahal.  I didn't like Johnny FB either. 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 04, 2014, 12:12:58 pm
Quote from: HF on August 04, 2014, 11:02:11 am
Valley if it makes you feel better, I heard the same stuff on multiple call in shows. Of course between that and the people crying about taking OUR games away from Little Rock the call in shows get rather dull during the offseason..

Well I appreciate the fact check - yes it's all along the same lines as taking our games away from Little Rock.
And like I said, I'm wasn't thinking nothing of it - prices go up, I'd think even A&M fans would complain.  Ricepig
is just having one of those days - I said Ark Fans whine about tickets going up, over of a couple million dollars project -
now he's giving me the history of ticket prices and etc....   ;D.  Blame it on AirWarren - that facility impressed even RP.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on August 04, 2014, 12:32:05 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on August 04, 2014, 12:12:58 pm
Quote from: HF on August 04, 2014, 11:02:11 am
Valley if it makes you feel better, I heard the same stuff on multiple call in shows. Of course between that and the people crying about taking OUR games away from Little Rock the call in shows get rather dull during the offseason..

Well I appreciate the fact check - yes it's all along the same lines as taking our games away from Little Rock.
And like I said, I'm wasn't thinking nothing of it - prices go up, I'd think even A&M fans would complain.  Ricepig
is just having one of those days - I said Ark Fans whine about tickets going up, over of a couple million dollars project -
now he's giving me the history of ticket prices and etc....   ;D.  Blame it on AirWarren - that facility impressed even RP.

Well, I could do as you did and ask for a link, but I figure you to be a somewhat truthful person and took your word on hearing worthless drivel on sports radio. What couple million project have we built that we raised ticket prices over, link??
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 04, 2014, 12:45:28 pm
Quote from: RTF on August 04, 2014, 11:33:43 am
i don't know about 4 years down the road, however, I do think A&M will finish at the bottom of the SEC West this year with the Hogs. (No Manziel=big problems)

I somewhat agree with you RTF - even A&M is expecting a tough season .  There are some future NFL Players
in this freshman class (Manziel's replacement), but the harvest will come with the classes of 2016 & 2017.  Of course a bad season, might
steer some of those verbal commits away.  However it goes down - it's interesting to watch.     
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: cuckoobird on August 04, 2014, 04:08:22 pm
Quote from: DiehardFBfan on August 04, 2014, 12:09:01 pm
I hope the Aggies lose every freakin game.  I don't care if they have the Taj Mahal.  I didn't like Johnny FB either.
wait a second, didn't you just post something in the 3a board about people hating on good players? tsk tsk DH
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: DogsWin7 on August 04, 2014, 05:23:21 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on August 04, 2014, 04:08:22 pm
Quote from: DiehardFBfan on August 04, 2014, 12:09:01 pm
I hope the Aggies lose every freakin game.  I don't care if they have the Taj Mahal.  I didn't like Johnny FB either.
wait a second, didn't you just post something in the 3a board about people hating on good players? tsk tsk DH
I did say that, and??   I didn't hate on Johnny Manziel....I stated,  I didn't like him.   How's that hating on him and his athletic ability?   
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: mack on August 05, 2014, 07:37:48 am
Quote from: ricepig on August 04, 2014, 11:10:57 am
And to answer your question on $500mil for improvements, yeah, it seems outlandish, but I guess they have the money. Most people are talking about attendance problems, especially the rent a win games, but the TV money is too great to pass up.

Exactly...........  TV money!  Ticket prices should stay affordable so the average fan can see a game every now and then.  With all the TV money, SEC network  etc, etc., I would think the ticket prices should stay as they are.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on August 05, 2014, 09:48:33 am
Quote from: mack on August 05, 2014, 07:37:48 am
Quote from: ricepig on August 04, 2014, 11:10:57 am
And to answer your question on $500mil for improvements, yeah, it seems outlandish, but I guess they have the money. Most people are talking about attendance problems, especially the rent a win games, but the TV money is too great to pass up.

Exactly...........  TV money!  Ticket prices should stay affordable so the average fan can see a game every now and then.  With all the TV money, SEC network  etc, etc., I would think the ticket prices should stay as they are.

I wish they would lower the ticket prices on all the upper deck seats except the Hog Pen section. Then, I would double the price of our SEC foes, of course they'd do likewise.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: DogsWin7 on August 05, 2014, 12:21:24 pm
I was told I could get cheaper tickets for a small donation of $500.   Then they could place me some where on the lower section.    Never knew what my parents paid for the nicer seats when I was a kid.   Makes me more appreciative but you see the game, and can still cheer on the Hogs!   My son loves it! 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 05, 2014, 02:06:58 pm
Quote from: mack on August 05, 2014, 07:37:48 am
Exactly...........  TV money!  Ticket prices should stay affordable so the average fan can see a game every now and then.  With all the TV money, SEC network  etc, etc., I would think the ticket prices should stay as they are.

Very good point Mack - with each team getting a $20 million dividend from the SEC, tickets could be leveled at an affordable price for those of us who are just trying to keep the family fed. 

I have noticed that FF Posters', attending Razorback games, tend to think the refs miss a lot of calls (like every one that goes against the Hog's).  Kinda like the TV slow motion replays.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: cuckoobird on August 05, 2014, 02:47:22 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on August 05, 2014, 02:06:58 pm
Quote from: mack on August 05, 2014, 07:37:48 am
Exactly...........  TV money!  Ticket prices should stay affordable so the average fan can see a game every now and then.  With all the TV money, SEC network  etc, etc., I would think the ticket prices should stay as they are.

Very good point Mack - with each team getting a $20 million dividend from the SEC, tickets could be leveled at an affordable price for those of us who are just trying to keep the family fed. 

I have noticed that FF Posters', attending Razorback games, tend to think the refs miss a lot of calls (like every one that goes against the Hog's).  Kinda like the TV slow motion replays.
It's hilarious when a blind fan gripes about a good call on the field. now, there have been some bad ones too, Florida game for the personal foul comes to mind.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on August 05, 2014, 03:55:05 pm
Quote from: cuckoobird on August 05, 2014, 02:47:22 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on August 05, 2014, 02:06:58 pm
Quote from: mack on August 05, 2014, 07:37:48 am
Exactly...........  TV money!  Ticket prices should stay affordable so the average fan can see a game every now and then.  With all the TV money, SEC network  etc, etc., I would think the ticket prices should stay as they are.

Very good point Mack - with each team getting a $20 million dividend from the SEC, tickets could be leveled at an affordable price for those of us who are just trying to keep the family fed. 

I have noticed that FF Posters', attending Razorback games, tend to think the refs miss a lot of calls (like every one that goes against the Hog's).  Kinda like the TV slow motion replays.
It's hilarious when a blind fan gripes about a good call on the field. now, there have been some bad ones too, Florida game for the personal foul comes to mind.

2009 was a tough year on calls, someone has as their avitar a screenshot of the LSU game where we clearly tackled their WR in bounds. In fact, he was 3 yards in bounds, needless to say they kicked a FG to send it to OT where we lost, by missing a winning FG.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 06, 2014, 11:50:36 am
Quote from: ricepig on August 04, 2014, 09:35:08 amYou get your info from talk radio, explains a lot.

I'm listening to "The Buzz" - in the Zone, right now, ricepig.  A guy just called in, said he's been watching the Hogs' since 1957.  He commented on Jeff Long being the chairman of the ranking committee.  Should I turn this station off?  If you don't listen to the radio and the Hog Fans who call in are wrong, where do you stay up on what's happening?  I certainly don't want to be led a stray - I want to tune in to your sources.  How does a true fan, such as yourself, stay so knowledgeable?


Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on August 06, 2014, 11:53:45 am
Quote from: Valleysports on August 06, 2014, 11:50:36 am
Quote from: ricepig on August 04, 2014, 09:35:08 amYou get your info from talk radio, explains a lot.

I'm listening to "The Buzz" - in the Zone, right now, ricepig.  A guy just called in, said he's been watching the Hogs' since 1957.  He commented on Jeff Long being the chairman of the ranking committee.  Should I turn this station off?  If you don't listen to the radio and the Hog Fans who call in are wrong, where do you stay up on what's happening?  I certainly don't want to be led a stray - I want to tune in to your sources.  How does a true fan, such as yourself, stay so knowledgeable?

You can listen if you wish, I would take everything they say with a grain of salt. I read message boards, several, I talk to former players, several, and I talk to people on campus.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: mack on August 06, 2014, 12:46:24 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on August 05, 2014, 02:06:58 pm
Quote from: mack on August 05, 2014, 07:37:48 am
Exactly...........  TV money!  Ticket prices should stay affordable so the average fan can see a game every now and then.  With all the TV money, SEC network  etc, etc., I would think the ticket prices should stay as they are.

Very good point Mack - with each team getting a $20 million dividend from the SEC, tickets could be leveled at an affordable price for those of us who are just trying to keep the family fed. 

I have noticed that FF Posters', attending Razorback games, tend to think the refs miss a lot of calls (like every one that goes against the Hog's).  Kinda like the TV slow motion replays.

I'm just like every other homer on here.  I rail against all calls that go against us.  About 90% of the time, the replay shows I was wrong.  That's just human nature for many of us.  There have been some pretty egregious ones in the past, the worst being the Florida game where our d-back was mauled by the FL wide receiver that probably cost us the game.  Interestingly enough, there have been a couple times that officials, or teams of officials, were grounded after making sorry calls on us.  Homer griping aside, I have rarely found that a blown call cost us a game. 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 06, 2014, 01:23:19 pm
Quote from: ricepig on August 06, 2014, 11:53:45 am
You can listen if you wish, I would take everything they say with a grain of salt. I read message boards, several, I talk to former players, several, and I talk to people on campus.

Well us common folk don't have the option to walk around campus talking to people and former students.  Don't you ever second guess me again - Obama!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Breitontime on August 06, 2014, 01:39:09 pm
Quote from: mack on August 06, 2014, 12:46:24 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on August 05, 2014, 02:06:58 pm
Quote from: mack on August 05, 2014, 07:37:48 am
Exactly...........  TV money!  Ticket prices should stay affordable so the average fan can see a game every now and then.  With all the TV money, SEC network  etc, etc., I would think the ticket prices should stay as they are.

Very good point Mack - with each team getting a $20 million dividend from the SEC, tickets could be leveled at an affordable price for those of us who are just trying to keep the family fed. 

I have noticed that FF Posters', attending Razorback games, tend to think the refs miss a lot of calls (like every one that goes against the Hog's).  Kinda like the TV slow motion replays.

I'm just like every other homer on here.  I rail against all calls that go against us.  About 90% of the time, the replay shows I was wrong.  That's just human nature for many of us.  There have been some pretty egregious ones in the past, the worst being the Florida game where our d-back was mauled by the FL wide receiver that probably cost us the game.  Interestingly enough, there have been a couple times that officials, or teams of officials, were grounded after making sorry calls on us.  Homer griping aside, I have rarely found that a blown call cost us a game.
I was at that game in Gainsville. Good game. Oddly enough, growing up in Arkansas, it was the first Hog game I had been to. Though, I went with a group of friends who were UF students.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on August 06, 2014, 02:46:33 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on August 06, 2014, 01:23:19 pm
Quote from: ricepig on August 06, 2014, 11:53:45 am
You can listen if you wish, I would take everything they say with a grain of salt. I read message boards, several, I talk to former players, several, and I talk to people on campus.

Well us common folk don't have the option to walk around campus talking to people and former students.  Don't you ever second guess me again - Obama!

Obama?? Dude, I was voting for Republicans when you were still on the teet.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 06, 2014, 04:21:57 pm
Then you should recognize how your recent post resemble Obama  telling Israel they were wrong, and should withdraw. 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on August 06, 2014, 04:30:51 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on August 06, 2014, 04:21:57 pm
Then you should recognize how your recent post resemble Obama  telling Israel they were wrong, and should withdraw.

Stick to Facebook, you probably go over on it better......
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 06, 2014, 04:36:29 pm
That probably flew past you because you don't listen to the radio! lol
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on August 06, 2014, 05:14:41 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on August 06, 2014, 04:36:29 pm
That probably flew past you because you don't listen to the radio! lol

Nah, just satellite radio while I watch CNBC during the day. I tend not to listen to Obama anyway, kind of like you, blah blah blah......
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 06, 2014, 06:11:42 pm
It was on CNBC for several days - my home channel as well.  Did you drop DE yet?
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on August 06, 2014, 07:30:21 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on August 06, 2014, 06:11:42 pm
It was on CNBC for several days - my home channel as well.  Did you drop DE yet?

I guess I'm lost, DE??
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Lions84 on August 06, 2014, 08:04:02 pm
History says TAMU goes up and falls hard and I expect it to happen again.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 06, 2014, 08:19:59 pm
NOOOOOOOOOOO - Not history again AGAIN.   ;D
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: mack on August 06, 2014, 08:39:26 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on August 06, 2014, 08:19:59 pm
NOOOOOOOOOOO - Not history again AGAIN.   ;D

Ah,,,,,,you cannot escape the clutches of history..........
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 07, 2014, 09:36:31 am
Sumlin coached Breeze, Bradford, Keenum, Manziel.  He now has Kenny Hill (Soph), Kyle Allen (Fresh), Ty Murray (2015), on the same team - better be building that storm shelter!  ;)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: mack on August 07, 2014, 12:20:15 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on August 07, 2014, 09:36:31 am
Sumlin coached Breeze, Bradford, Keenum, Manziel.  He now has Kenny Hill (Soph), Kyle Allen (Fresh), Ty Murray (2015), on the same team - better be building that storm shelter!  ;)

With the linemen that CBB is going to continue to get, we could have ricepig at QB, you and me at the RB positions, and kill folks.  TAM included :-)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on August 07, 2014, 12:58:38 pm
Quote from: mack on August 07, 2014, 12:20:15 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on August 07, 2014, 09:36:31 am
Sumlin coached Breeze, Bradford, Keenum, Manziel.  He now has Kenny Hill (Soph), Kyle Allen (Fresh), Ty Murray (2015), on the same team - better be building that storm shelter!  ;)

With the linemen that CBB is going to continue to get, we could have ricepig at QB, you and me at the RB positions, and kill folks.  TAM included :-)

I do throw a nice dying quail.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 07, 2014, 03:56:51 pm
I have a feeling you'd be changing the coaches calls a lot.
Oh DE - Deere?
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on August 07, 2014, 05:31:55 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on August 07, 2014, 03:56:51 pm
I have a feeling you'd be changing the coaches calls a lot.
Oh DE - Deere?

Ok, wasn't thinking of stocks, but yeah, I don't sell for the most point. I'm in from the 20's, so I don't worry about it. I tend to buy and leave them alone. I trade options on stuff I want to be in and out. I like listening to the Najarian brothers and Fast Money for info.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on August 28, 2014, 05:23:05 pm
Valley, if aTm actually has a D, they will be better than expected.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: AirWarren on August 28, 2014, 05:28:02 pm
South Carolina looks bad.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: cuckoobird on August 28, 2014, 05:28:55 pm
aTm looks mighty good right now
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: DogsWin7 on August 28, 2014, 05:34:30 pm
Quote from: ricepig on August 28, 2014, 05:23:05 pm
Valley, if aTm actually has a D, they will be better than expected.
Don't encourage him and his Texas antics! lol :)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on August 28, 2014, 05:35:58 pm
Quote from: DiehardFBfan on August 28, 2014, 05:34:30 pm
Quote from: ricepig on August 28, 2014, 05:23:05 pm
Valley, if aTm actually has a D, they will be better than expected.
Don't encourage him and his Texas antics! lol :)

Dang, maybe BG will bant him soon, lol......
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: AirWarren on August 28, 2014, 05:48:29 pm
Love the state. Hate their teams.


South Carolina seems to be getting it together a bit.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: fastdrop on August 28, 2014, 07:04:21 pm
Who needs a good defense when you score at will. Petrino taught the state of Arkansas that but folks have short memories.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on August 28, 2014, 07:07:51 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on August 28, 2014, 07:04:21 pm
Who needs a good defense when you score at will. Petrino taught the state of Arkansas that but folks have short memories.

What difference is a 50-42 loss from a 21-13 loss?
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: fastdrop on August 28, 2014, 07:12:34 pm
Quote from: ricepig on August 28, 2014, 07:07:51 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on August 28, 2014, 07:04:21 pm
Who needs a good defense when you score at will. Petrino taught the state of Arkansas that but folks have short memories.

What difference is a 50-42 loss from a 21-13 loss?
I honestly hope you guys win a bunch of 21 -13 wins this year ... next year or the year after. I don't see it. The college game has moved on.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: cotnhauler on August 28, 2014, 07:14:48 pm
       I hope all these high powered college football experts are as bad wrong about our game as they have been about this one. SC ain't gettin back in this one. This aTm bunch is more of a team than they were the last 2 years.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: fastdrop on August 28, 2014, 07:20:07 pm
Either the Aggies are GREAT or South Carolina is awful.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: AirWarren on August 28, 2014, 07:23:05 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on August 28, 2014, 07:20:07 pm
Either the Aggies are GREAT or South Carolina is awful.

This.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on August 28, 2014, 07:29:22 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on August 28, 2014, 07:12:34 pm
Quote from: ricepig on August 28, 2014, 07:07:51 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on August 28, 2014, 07:04:21 pm
Who needs a good defense when you score at will. Petrino taught the state of Arkansas that but folks have short memories.

What difference is a 50-42 loss from a 21-13 loss?
I honestly hope you guys win a bunch of 21 -13 wins this year ... next year or the year after. I don't see it. The college game has moved on.

Everything in cycles, Bielema will want to run more than pass, but as he gets more WR's and other skill people, he'll open it up more.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: cuckoobird on August 28, 2014, 07:43:19 pm
Keep razorback talk in the hog threads. This is your last warning
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: cuckoobird on August 28, 2014, 07:44:55 pm
A&m is better than last year with a better defense too
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: bleudog on August 28, 2014, 08:26:51 pm
Stewart Mandel ‏@slmandel:  "Just a word of warning that A&M's next 4 opponents are Lamar, Rice, SMU and Arkansas."
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Rulesman on August 28, 2014, 08:27:19 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on August 28, 2014, 05:28:02 pm
South Carolina looks bad.
Ole Miss looks worse. Really surprised at how undisciplined they are playing.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: AirWarren on August 28, 2014, 09:08:21 pm
Not impressed with ole miss either.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: AirWarren on August 28, 2014, 09:22:38 pm
Those Boise uniforms are looking sharp.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Big Fan on August 28, 2014, 10:28:48 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on August 28, 2014, 09:22:38 pm
Those Boise uniforms are looking sharp.
Really??
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: AirWarren on August 28, 2014, 10:33:19 pm
Yes sir!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: AirWarren on August 28, 2014, 11:30:20 pm
Vandy looks disheveled.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Breitontime on August 29, 2014, 01:03:15 am
To all the fool's that A&M was Johnny flippin Football. Lolz. Another ing down on the latter for the home state team.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Rulesman on August 29, 2014, 08:14:08 am
Quote from: AirWarren on August 28, 2014, 09:22:38 pm
Those Boise uniforms are looking sharp.
Got to have something to counteract that ugly home turf.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Rulesman on August 29, 2014, 08:15:21 am
Quote from: AirWarren on August 28, 2014, 11:30:20 pm
Vandy looks disheveled.
Someone stayed up to watch that one? Stat sheet shows it ended at 1:14 a.m. zzzzzzzzzz..................
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: AirWarren on August 29, 2014, 08:39:24 am
I fell asleep. The James franklin machine ended at Vandy.

Temple....
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Hoghead on August 29, 2014, 09:53:21 am
Quote from: AirWarren on August 29, 2014, 08:39:24 am
I fell asleep. The James franklin machine ended at Vandy.

Temple....

True !!!!  What that guy did at Vandy was a miracle.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Lions84 on August 29, 2014, 11:33:14 am
The Aggies looked really good or is the Gamecocks over rated.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 29, 2014, 01:15:49 pm
I wouldn't read too much into A&M's performance just yet - A&M is playing with training wheels on.  Arkansas better take advantage of A&M's Youth & Inexperience, before those training wheels start coming off though. Sumlin say's A&M won't be a top football program until they start having 8-10 players in the NFL Draft each year.  Had 3 last year - long way to go!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: beach bum on August 29, 2014, 01:20:07 pm
Texas A&M 52 Arkansas 28 .... That will be the score later this year.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: mack on August 29, 2014, 01:22:38 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on August 29, 2014, 01:15:49 pm
I wouldn't read too much into A&M's performance just yet - A&M is playing with training wheels on.  Arkansas better take advantage of A&M's Youth & Inexperience, before those training wheels start coming off though. Sumlin say's A&M won't be a top football program until they start having 8-10 players in the NFL Draft each year.  Had 3 last year - long way to go!


History says,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 29, 2014, 01:43:11 pm
Okie Dokie!  ;D
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: AirWarren on August 29, 2014, 01:55:43 pm
Quote from: mack on August 29, 2014, 01:22:38 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on August 29, 2014, 01:15:49 pm
I wouldn't read too much into A&M's performance just yet - A&M is playing with training wheels on.  Arkansas better take advantage of A&M's Youth & Inexperience, before those training wheels start coming off though. Sumlin say's A&M won't be a top football program until they start having 8-10 players in the NFL Draft each year.  Had 3 last year - long way to go!


History says,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

41-26-3
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: mack on August 29, 2014, 02:05:41 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on August 29, 2014, 01:43:11 pm
Okie Dokie!  ;D

Hahahahaha!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: beach bum on August 29, 2014, 03:47:12 pm
History means nothing with this years matchup. We are terrible and A&M has twice as many targets to throw to as most teams. We wont stop A&M... We can only hope for a terrible rainstorm all 12 games this year.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 29, 2014, 09:47:46 pm
If history were any indicator of the future, Central High and Pine Bluff would be playing 7A Football - Bentonville would still be on everyone's Homecoming Schedule.  Who is Greenwood?

Four consecutive Top 5 Recruiting Classes a difference will make!

Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 29, 2014, 10:16:09 pm
So I watched the game today (recorded) - about what I figured.  A&M has too many freshman, and due to disciplinary action or injury, have lost too many defensive players.  That Linebacker, who was looking good, went down bad - had to be ACL.  They aren't even close to being as good as last year - S Carolina has a worse defense than A&M. 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Lions84 on September 02, 2014, 10:29:07 am
We are playing in Jerry's World this year so Weather not an issue.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on September 02, 2014, 01:03:57 pm
This game will be a lot like the Auburn game.  High scoring - could go either way.  A&M will be over ranked.  Both defenses have several games to learn their positions.  No huddle offense might be a factor in 2nd half - if A&M pushes it.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: cotnhauler on September 02, 2014, 05:56:16 pm
         Score will be like 54 to 42 aTm. Their receivers will drop fewer passes than ours.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on September 06, 2014, 06:42:06 pm
So A&M is playing Lamar - should be about like Arkansas vs Nicholls St?  106,000 Fans at Aggie Stadium.  Lightning hits - runs teams off field.  A&M needs to bring some of that money to Arkansas State and UCA.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Uncle Ivan on September 06, 2014, 08:54:26 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on September 06, 2014, 06:42:06 pm
So A&M is playing Lamar - should be about like Arkansas vs Nicholls St?  106,000 Fans at Aggie Stadium.  Lightning hits - runs teams off field.  A&M needs to bring some of that money to Arkansas State and UCA.

Not sure you'll ever see ASU play in College Station again.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on September 06, 2014, 10:32:53 pm
How A&M will play this year, as a team, remains to be seen.  But oh my goodness, some of these 4-5 star freshmen athletes are impressive.  Ricepig, did you see Kyle Allen (backup QB)?  Kenny Hill better not let up! 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on September 07, 2014, 07:54:22 am
And the windfall continues:  TEXAS 7 - BYU 41,  in Austin.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on September 07, 2014, 08:06:11 am
Quote from: Valleysports on September 06, 2014, 10:32:53 pm
How A&M will play this year, as a team, remains to be seen.  But oh my goodness, some of these 4-5 star freshmen athletes are impressive.  Ricepig, did you see Kyle Allen (backup QB)?  Kenny Hill better not let up!

They played Lamar, about as impressive as playing Nicholls.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on September 07, 2014, 08:14:44 am
Yep - most definitely.  Obviously you didn't watch this game..   ;D
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on September 07, 2014, 09:42:43 am
Quote from: Valleysports on September 07, 2014, 08:14:44 am
Yep - most definitely.  Obviously you didn't watch this game..   ;D

You are correct.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: cotnhauler on September 07, 2014, 09:02:00 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on September 07, 2014, 07:54:22 am
And the windfall continues:  TEXAS 7 - BYU 41,  in Austin.
It was a great day Texas and Ohio State get beat!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on September 07, 2014, 09:41:50 pm
Quote from: cotnhauler on September 07, 2014, 09:02:00 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on September 07, 2014, 07:54:22 am
And the windfall continues:  TEXAS 7 - BYU 41,  in Austin.
It was a great day Texas and Ohio State get beat!

Yeah, only way it could have been better was if Notre Dame had lost, unfortunately, they were playing a Big 1G team.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Uncle Ivan on September 07, 2014, 09:46:00 pm
Quote from: ricepig on September 07, 2014, 09:41:50 pm

Yeah, only way it could have been better was if Notre Dame had lost, unfortunately, they were playing a Big 1G team.

That was the first big mistake the CFB Playoff crew did: allow ND an undeserved way in. 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Indiana Jones on October 04, 2014, 02:07:18 pm
Their storm is dry today
MSU is scary
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: AirWarren on October 04, 2014, 02:12:19 pm
A storm?

More like a wet fart.


With that said, it's disgusting that we didn't put them away.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on October 04, 2014, 02:42:25 pm
Quote from: Indiana Jones on October 04, 2014, 02:07:18 pm
Their storm is dry today
MSU is scary

Ha ha - yep it was only supposed to be a breeze with this 5 star freshman group, be a storm warning with next years top recruiting class, and year after next the perfect storm will be upon us.  This was supposed to be a down year for A&M - they just haven't played anyone until today.  Patience!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: cuckoobird on October 04, 2014, 02:49:41 pm
Just think how bad msu will beat us. Idk why everyone is saying we will beat the MS schools
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on October 04, 2014, 03:15:16 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on October 04, 2014, 02:42:25 pm
Quote from: Indiana Jones on October 04, 2014, 02:07:18 pm
Their storm is dry today
MSU is scary

Ha ha - yep it was only supposed to be a breeze with this 5 star freshman group, be a storm warning with next years top recruiting class, and year after next the perfect storm will be upon us.  This was supposed to be a down year for A&M - they just haven't played anyone until today.  Patience!

Is this their typical 5*? VIDEO: Texas A&M backup QB Kyle Allen chats it up with a female during game vs. Miss St. http://t.co/HOlbyzzfyU http://t.co/kyqT0WKU9l
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on October 04, 2014, 03:23:22 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on September 21, 2014, 08:26:36 am
I'm saying with A&M in a rebuilding year, starting rotating 9 freshmen on defense, and all - Arkansas should beat them.  They're only at 30% (from what they'll be in 2 yrs) yet - better beat em now  ;).   They're over-ranked ( 6th) because they beat a previously over ranked South Carolina, then the same type teams Arkansas has played.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on October 04, 2014, 04:04:17 pm
You know who that female is RP?
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on October 04, 2014, 04:06:13 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on October 04, 2014, 04:04:17 pm
You know who that female is RP?

Nope, looked like the water girl, do you?
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on November 02, 2014, 05:57:56 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on September 06, 2014, 10:32:53 pm
How A&M will play this year, as a team, remains to be seen.  But oh my goodness, some of these 4-5 star freshmen athletes are impressive.  Ricepig, did you see Kyle Allen (backup QB)?  Kenny Hill better not let up!

"Offensive coordinator Jake Spavital made it clear that Allen won the right to start with his play in practice over the last two weeks, not because of Hill's suspension.  "Where we're at right now, we're looking for the best guys to put out there and to go out there and compete, and he definitely earned the starting position," Spavital said."

Interesting development in College Station - Ricepig.  I haven't seen Allen looking exceptional, when he's gotten his shot, in a game yet.  But he'll get Auburn and Missouri over the next two weeks.  Funny how, after that first game, everyone was Johnny Who?  That'd be Johnny Football!  LOL 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Hoghead on November 02, 2014, 11:39:50 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on October 04, 2014, 02:12:19 pm
A storm?

More like a wet fart.


With that said, it's disgusting that we didn't put them away.
Hogs have the biggest O-Line in College football. Missed on 4th and 1 against A&M, Bama and MSU. THAT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN PERIOD !
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on November 03, 2014, 06:16:08 am
Quote from: Hoghead on November 02, 2014, 11:39:50 pm
Quote from: AirWarren on October 04, 2014, 02:12:19 pm
A storm?

More like a wet fart.


With that said, it's disgusting that we didn't put them away.
Hogs have the biggest O-Line in College football. Missed on 4th and 1 against A&M, Bama and MSU. THAT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN PERIOD !

I'm not much on necessarily having the biggest line - I want the job done, might be better with a 280 pounder with speed. 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on November 08, 2014, 04:06:22 pm
A&M being led by Freshmen all over that field RP - learning curve not on as steep of an incline. Think the Kyle Allen take over is happening? 

Ooops well his learning curve is just starting.   ;D
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on November 08, 2014, 04:19:33 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on November 08, 2014, 04:06:22 pm
A&M being led by Freshmen all over that field RP - learning curve not on as steep of an incline. Think the Kyle Allen take over is happening? 

Ooops well his learning curve is just starting.   ;D

He looked very pedestrian against ULM last week, much better today.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Fatfullback on November 10, 2014, 04:38:52 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on September 06, 2014, 10:32:53 pm
How A&M will play this year, as a team, remains to be seen.  But oh my goodness, some of these 4-5 star freshmen athletes are impressive.  Ricepig, did you see Kyle Allen (backup QB)?  Kenny Hill better not let up! 
Hey Valley nice post from September 6th. Kyle Allen made an impressive showing Saturday!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on November 12, 2014, 06:34:44 pm
Thanks Fullback!  These guys don't realize my post are like looking through a crystal ball.  I haven't watched Sumlin much, not sure what he was doing.  Either he didn't trust the 18yr old yet, didn't want to take a chance on the kid throwing interceptions (confidence), or just his style - but he came out, after half, just trying not to blow the big lead - which ultimately he did.  A&M's future was on the field Saturday (10 freshmen defense) - in 8 months they will have 4-5 star commits battling for every defensive position though, which will make them two (4-5 star / Soph & Fresh) deep.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on November 12, 2014, 07:18:21 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on July 28, 2014, 07:37:16 pm
A true football program isn't built over night - they've been getting all that infrastructure in place (Johnny was fun), now they're building a foundation (players & stadium), they'll either be a Top 5 or the most underperforming college team in the near future.  Time line - A&M's program will rise, in step, with their freshman QB (Kyle Allen) - even if he isn't the starter this year.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on November 24, 2014, 07:33:28 pm
Quote from: Lionheart88 on November 24, 2014, 05:59:33 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on November 24, 2014, 04:07:40 pm
Memphis is 3-2 against the Hogs all time.

Ole Miss had their hands full with Memphis for a half. Then they pulled away.

If the Hogs win this weekend they will play a better opponent than someone like Memphis. If not I just assumed the match up be against Big Blue instead of a 6-6 middle of the pack team from the Big 12.
And OBU's beaten Arkansas twice and tied them once.  Decades-old games are completely irrelevant to what would happen if they were to face off this season.

Pardon the interuption - just need to store this quote.......
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on November 27, 2014, 06:37:56 pm
Two very, very, very young teams playing SEC West Football - if you're tired of the Cowboys - ricepig. 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on November 27, 2014, 09:02:44 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on November 27, 2014, 06:37:56 pm
Two very, very, very young teams playing SEC West Football - if you're tired of the Cowboys - ricepig.

I'm not a Wyoming fan.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on January 03, 2015, 09:26:52 am
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2318976-texas-am-football-the-biggest-offseason-storylines-for-the-aggies (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2318976-texas-am-football-the-biggest-offseason-storylines-for-the-aggies)

The Aggies had a very young team in 2014
and finished the season with a 8-5 record and a Liberty Bowl win over West Virginia. The 2015 offseason should be a time for the team to mature and get ready to take that next step to compete for the SEC title.

The biggest storyline in the off season, and one of the biggest in years involving the Texas A&M program, will be the addition of defensive coordinator John Chavis to the staff.  Offensive line coach B. J. Anderson was fired and replaced by Dan Christensen. The Utah offensive coordinator has also spent time at Wyoming and Missouri.

Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on January 09, 2015, 12:32:28 pm
Texas A&M sophomore quarterback Kenny Hill has asked for his release from the school and is expected to transfer, sources close to Hill and the program told ESPN.com on Thursday. 

http://tamu.247sports.com/Article/Texas-AM-Kyle-Allen-Kyler-Murray-34601931 (http://tamu.247sports.com/Article/Texas-AM-Kyle-Allen-Kyler-Murray-34601931)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on January 27, 2015, 09:06:11 pm
Texas lost their long time committ QB, from N Mexico   ;D   

Top 10: A&M, Texas on front lines of 2015's hottest recruiting wars
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/texas-longhorns-florida-gators-recruiting-2015-top-prospects-kyler-murray-iman-marshall-012715 (http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/texas-longhorns-florida-gators-recruiting-2015-top-prospects-kyler-murray-iman-marshall-012715)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on January 28, 2015, 07:43:32 am
The Eye, of A&M's Storm, is riding on this recruiting battle with Texas.  Recruits are running around like a school of fish - where 1 goes they might all go.   ;D 

What ever Malzahn & Muschamp are handing out, at Auburn, the rest of the SEC needs to do the same.  Auburn has been flipping big time recruits over the last week. 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on January 28, 2015, 07:49:41 am
Quote from: Valleysports on January 28, 2015, 07:43:32 am
The Eye, of A&M's Storm, is riding on this recruiting battle with Texas.  Recruits are running around like a school of fish - where 1 goes they might all go.   ;D 

What ever Malzahn & Muschamp are handing out, at Auburn, the rest of the SEC needs to do the same.  Auburn has been flipping big time recruits over the last week.

Auburn is handing out what they always have.    :o
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on January 28, 2015, 11:16:43 am
So, Valley, would you say two teams , who's average recruiting rankings/player were each a 3.35, would be equal?
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: AirWarren on January 28, 2015, 11:49:51 am
Quote from: Valleysports on January 09, 2015, 12:32:28 pm
Texas A&M sophomore quarterback Kenny Hill has asked for his release from the school and is expected to transfer, sources close to Hill and the program told ESPN.com on Thursday. 

http://tamu.247sports.com/Article/Texas-AM-Kyle-Allen-Kyler-Murray-34601931 (http://tamu.247sports.com/Article/Texas-AM-Kyle-Allen-Kyler-Murray-34601931)

Kenny Hill is a bum. He was going to be an epic flop.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on January 28, 2015, 03:01:43 pm
No Ricepig - I don't think two teams, with the same average, are equal - theoretically.  I believe you want to go after the best athletes on the playground - hope you have a diamond in the 2 & 3 star's, everyone missed.  For me, it's like watching one big Round Robbin Competition for Athletes.  Auburn & A&M upgraded coaching staff.

Airwarren, I know someone who knows the Hills personally - say's Kenny is definitely an Odd Ball.   
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on January 28, 2015, 03:22:48 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on January 28, 2015, 03:01:43 pm
No Ricepig - I don't think two teams, with the same average, are equal - theoretically.  I believe you want to go after the best athletes on the playground - hope you have a diamond in the 2 & 3 star's, everyone missed.  For me, it's like watching one big Round Robbin Competition for Athletes.  Auburn & A&M upgraded coaching staff.

Airwarren, I know someone who knows the Hills personally - say's Kenny is definitely an Odd Ball.   

So, 20 players with a 3.35 average on a recruiting service aren't equal to another team with 20 players with a 3.35 average? It would seem to me that the classes would be equal, but of course, in the recruiting world, they aren't.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on January 28, 2015, 04:18:19 pm
A 4-5 star should be a franchise player - an Alex Collins.  Five of those, each year, and you're an Alabama.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on January 28, 2015, 04:43:05 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on January 28, 2015, 04:18:19 pm
A 4-5 star should be a franchise player - an Alex Smith.  Five of those, each year, and you're an Alabama.

Don't think that was the question, but, ok.....my point was, one class was ranked #9, and the other was #20, but both had the same average per recruit, 3.35. Bama blows everyone out of the water with their 4+, haha.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on January 28, 2015, 08:56:57 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 28, 2015, 04:43:05 pm
Don't think that was the question, but, ok.....my point was, one class was ranked #9, and the other was #20, but both had the same average per recruit, 3.35. Bama blows everyone out of the water with their 4+, haha.

The #9 ranked team has 12 (4 star recruits), where as the #20 team has 6 (4 stars).  Alabama has 6 (5 star) & 15 (4 stars).  It's just fun to watch and anticipate - theory & reality are two different things.......
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on January 28, 2015, 09:14:11 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on January 28, 2015, 08:56:57 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 28, 2015, 04:43:05 pm
Don't think that was the question, but, ok.....my point was, one class was ranked #9, and the other was #20, but both had the same average per recruit, 3.35. Bama blows everyone out of the water with their 4+, haha.

The #9 ranked team has 12 (4 star recruits), where as the #20 team has 6 (4 stars).  Alabama has 6 (5 star) & 15 (4 stars).  It's just fun to watch and anticipate - theory & reality are two different things.......

Yet, the #9 and #20 have the same average, so several of their 3* are rated lower. Anyway, my point was that ratings and stars are subjective, as you say time well tell
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on January 30, 2015, 01:51:49 pm
Ricepig - get me something I can give you a hard time about.  ha ha  #1 QB in America, reaffirmed his commitment to A&M, last night, best thing about that is Texas went after him, so the QB committ they had -  flipped.  They lost both!   ;D  Don't know what will happen with Murray, Baseball, Kyle Allen, Red Shirt - but it's all fun to watch go down.  Two more recruits are going to committ (Today) to ether the SEC (A&M or Ole Miss) or Texas.  Hopefully Murry's decision will sway the other 6 away from Texas.  A&M did drop to 9th - LSU has moved up to 8th, landed some big recruits this week. 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on January 30, 2015, 02:02:04 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on January 30, 2015, 01:51:49 pm
Ricepig - get me something I can give you a hard time about.  ha ha  #1 QB in America, reaffirmed his commitment to A&M, last night, best thing about that is Texas went after him, so the QB committ they had -  flipped.  They lost both!   ;D  Don't know what will happen with Murray, Baseball, Kyle Allen, Red Shirt - but it's all fun to watch go down.  Two more recruits are going to committ (Today) to ether the SEC (A&M or Ole Miss) or Texas.  Hopefully Murry's decision will sway the other 6 away from Texas.  A&M did drop to 9th - LSU has moved up to 8th, landed some big recruits this week.

LSU got an OT who was a 3* everywhere but was a 5* on 24/7, haha. They took him when they figured out they lost Weathersby to us, or that's the scuttle butt. Anyway, the best I can figure, you only play one QB at a time, maybe I'm wrong. I always thought baseball would be the biggest challenge the Ags will have for Murray.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on January 30, 2015, 02:29:10 pm
Just heard Ty Storey, got some kind of high ranking status - like Top QB's to recruit or something.  I've got to go to town now...   :D
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on January 30, 2015, 02:54:20 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on January 30, 2015, 02:29:10 pm
Just heard Ty Storey, got some kind of high ranking status - like Top QB's to recruit or something.  I've got to go to town now...   :D

Parade All American, nice reward, but there have been plenty of busts on that list. A few years ago we had a 2* LB recruit from NJ make it, he never qualified, went to JUCO and who knows where he went from there, haha. I hope Storey lives up to his billing, lots of pressure.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on January 30, 2015, 09:18:10 pm
Texas took the two CB's (Holton & Hill) - A&M drops to 10th - Texas moves to 9th.. 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on January 30, 2015, 09:34:48 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on January 30, 2015, 09:18:10 pm
Texas took the two CB's (Holton & Hill) - A&M drops to 10th - Texas moves to 9th..

Holton will be a stud, I was hoping we might have a chance, but it didn't appear he was leaving the state.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on February 01, 2015, 06:50:47 pm
Quote from: ricepig on January 30, 2015, 02:02:04 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on January 30, 2015, 01:51:49 pm
Ricepig - get me something I can give you a hard time about.  ha ha  #1 QB in America, reaffirmed his commitment to A&M, last night, best thing about that is Texas went after him, so the QB committ they had -  flipped.  They lost both!   ;D  Don't know what will happen with Murray, Baseball, Kyle Allen, Red Shirt - but it's all fun to watch go down.  Two more recruits are going to committ (Today) to ether the SEC (A&M or Ole Miss) or Texas.  Hopefully Murry's decision will sway the other 6 away from Texas.  A&M did drop to 9th - LSU has moved up to 8th, landed some big recruits this week.

LSU got an OT who was a 3* everywhere but was a 5* on 24/7, haha. They took him when they figured out they lost Weathersby to us, or that's the scuttle butt. Anyway, the best I can figure, you only play one QB at a time, maybe I'm wrong. I always thought baseball would be the biggest challenge the Ags will have for Murray.

Well, crap, looks like LSU is getting Weathersby, too. I thought we had him, 4 got 4 excellent o-linemen, but I wanted another top OT.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on February 01, 2015, 09:22:11 pm
Probably thought he could play earlier at LSU... 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on February 01, 2015, 09:32:39 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on February 01, 2015, 09:22:11 pm
Probably thought he could play earlier at LSU...

That's what some are saying......
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on February 03, 2015, 05:14:31 pm
LSU keeps moving up the ladder - about #6 now.....  ::)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on February 03, 2015, 05:16:59 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on February 03, 2015, 05:14:31 pm
LSU keeps moving up the ladder - about #6 now.....  ::)

Yeah, they're hoping to score on us this year......... 8)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on February 04, 2015, 11:45:06 am
It's like watching a horse race - UCLA comes out of nowhere moves up 10 spots, to #9. Auburn jumps 4, to #8.  Georgia falls 4, to #10.  Texas is pushed back to #11.  And A&M falls to #13  HOLD ON - Daylon Mack just went with A&M over Texas - can they get back to the top 10?
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on February 04, 2015, 07:00:21 pm
Auburn ended up with 1 (5*), 19 (4*)
Alabama 6 (5*), 14 (4*).
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on February 05, 2015, 07:49:27 am
NCAA Bylaw 15.5.6.1 limits FBS football programs to a total number of scholarships to 85 "counters" annually including 25 scholarships for "initial counters." 

Texas took 29 Commits - Oversigning those 4 extras, lower ranked commits, jumped them to a #11 ranking.  Four upperclassmen will lose their scholarships.  Ohio St 27, Auburn 27, Georgia 28...... 

In May 2009, the SEC passed the "Houston Nutt Rule" restricting its football teams to accepting no more than 28 National Letters of Intent each year.  The University of Mississippi and its head coach, Houston Nutt, promised 37 scholarships to new recruits for the 2009 season.

Yesterday 2015 - South Carolina took 30 commits and Tennessee 29.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on February 05, 2015, 09:47:29 am
OK - Here's my Perfect Storm update..  I said 50% / 2 yrs, last year - I'm staying with 75% / 1 year away, this coming year.  All though Storm Alert marques will begin crossing the screen this year.  It caused a stumble in recruiting, but the biggest 5 star recruits A&M's signed are - New Defensive Coordinator, John Chavis (considered one of the best DC's in the Nation) AND Utah's Offensive Coordinator, Dave Christensen, as Offensive Line coach and run-game coordinator

"In 2014, Kevin Sumlin and Texas A&M signed 22 players. Of those 22 players, 13 would play as true freshman. Among them were future stars, not only in Aggieland, but in all of college football -- Myles Garrett, Speedy Noil, Josh Reynolds, and Otaro Alaka.  It was one of the most successful recruiting classes in Texas A&M history. 

This 2015 group will produce just as many starters as the 2014 group, if not more. That type of talent, put together, will bring unprecedented success to the Texas A&M football program.  For the first time in this millennium, Texas A&M will have a real two-deep at every single position.  Players in this group may actually get a chance to redshirt and develop before being forced into duty, a sure sign that the program is finally where it needs to be.  When you stack names like Murray, Kirk, and Mack with what is already on campus in Garrett and Noil, you suddenly have a nucleus of players that can go out and compete against the country's best.  Lacking that type of core, along with depth at nearly every position, has prevented the Aggies from establishing a long-term presence among the nation's elite. Now they are here and ready to conquer."

Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on February 05, 2015, 12:11:51 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on February 05, 2015, 07:49:27 am
NCAA Bylaw 15.5.6.1 limits FBS football programs to a total number of scholarships to 85 "counters" annually including 25 scholarships for "initial counters." 

Texas took 29 Commits - Oversigning those 4 extras, lower ranked commits, jumped them to a #11 ranking.  Four upperclassmen will lose their scholarships.  Ohio St 27, Auburn 27, Georgia 28...... 

In May 2009, the SEC passed the "Houston Nutt Rule" restricting its football teams to accepting no more than 28 National Letters of Intent each year.  The University of Mississippi and its head coach, Houston Nutt, promised 37 scholarships to new recruits for the 2009 season.

Yesterday 2015 - South Carolina took 30 commits and Tennessee 29.

If you under sign the previous year, you can count back X amount of players. The new "rage", is what Tennessee is doing by blueshirting players. These kids never had an "in-home" visit and never took an "official" visit. They sign, show up next August and count against the next year's class, haha. Now, these kids have visited, met with coaches, and arranged all of this. Anyway, it appears Butch is mortgaging his future classes for now. I'd hate to be the guy that replaces him......
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on February 05, 2015, 07:09:52 pm
Always someone bending the rules.  I notice the term greyshirting?
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on February 05, 2015, 07:26:14 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on February 05, 2015, 07:09:52 pm
Always someone bending the rules.  I notice the term greyshirting?

Yep, not to be confused with blueshirting.....
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on February 05, 2015, 07:40:02 pm
What is greyshirting?
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on February 05, 2015, 07:54:24 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on February 05, 2015, 07:40:02 pm
What is greyshirting?

That's where the recruit doesn't sign a LOI and agrees to either pay his own way for a semester, or not go. They then come in January and count against the next class. They can't be involved with the program in any fashion.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on September 10, 2015, 08:27:26 am
Quote from: ricepig on May 28, 2014, 03:33:29 pm
Your sleeping on the job Valley, aTm just got another 5* QB, Kyler Murray. By the way, which one leaves first, Allen or Murray? I watched this kid in some Tx playoff games on TV, he runs, be interested to see how he passes against SEC defenses.

Ricepig - That kid is screaming fast!  A&M needed to break Arizona St's blitz, so they brought in Murray.  Did you see that?  He was almost as fast as their DE's. LOL.

Texas 3 - Notre Dame 38 / A&M 38 - Arizona St 17   
ALL SEVEN SEC West Teams in the Top 25
Hopefully the SEC can intercept more UT Recruits...  :D
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on September 14, 2015, 08:02:07 am
Status Update: Storm Warning.  75% completion (2nd string defense are still freshmen).  Perfect Storm still on track for 2016.  There were Five National Top 100 Defensive Recruits at A&M's game this week, enjoying the hoop lah - opening of stadium, fireworks, 12 lb hot dogs, and watching High Lights of Notre Dame humiliating the Longhorns.  TCU needs to pound Texas in 3 weeks - then Baylor finish them off in the last game..  Wouldn't hurt if Texas fans start calling for a coaching change.  LOL. I'm still intrigued with the Longhorn Crash simultaneously taking place with A&M's move to the SEC.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Fatfullback on September 14, 2015, 04:06:17 pm
12 pound hot dogs?!?!?!? Got a pic??
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on September 14, 2015, 11:57:25 pm
Quote from: Fatfullback on September 14, 2015, 04:06:17 pm
12 pound hot dogs?!?!?!? Got a pic??

https://twitter.com/breakground/status/642061927355580416/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw (https://twitter.com/breakground/status/642061927355580416/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: WPWells on September 14, 2015, 11:58:48 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on September 14, 2015, 08:02:07 am
Status Update: Storm Warning.  75% completion (2nd string defense are still freshmen).  Perfect Storm still on track for 2016.  There were Five National Top 100 Defensive Recruits at A&M's game this week, enjoying the hoop lah - opening of stadium, fireworks, 12 lb hot dogs, and watching High Lights of Notre Dame humiliating the Longhorns.  TCU needs to pound Texas in 3 weeks - then Baylor finish them off in the last game..  Wouldn't hurt if Texas fans start calling for a coaching change.  LOL. I'm still intrigued with the Longhorn Crash simultaneously taking place with A&M's move to the SEC.

A&M has become the premier university in the state of Texas due to their move to the SEC
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Fatfullback on September 16, 2015, 04:31:44 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on September 14, 2015, 11:57:25 pm
Quote from: Fatfullback on September 14, 2015, 04:06:17 pm
12 pound hot dogs?!?!?!? Got a pic??

https://twitter.com/breakground/status/642061927355580416/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw (https://twitter.com/breakground/status/642061927355580416/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
WooooWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on September 24, 2015, 10:57:05 am
(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/0382980e6a439a2ebffb5bf879f0fc36c9bb0463/c=352-109-991-590&r=x383&c=540x380/local/-/media/2015/06/16/KHOU/KHOU/635700386224156960-CHnqIrSUkAARhb2.png)

The Perfect Storm is still one season out.  However these Sophomores and Freshmen are the eye of that storm.
This is it - last Storm Warning - better beat em while if you can!

Quote from: AirWarren on May 11, 2014, 07:22:27 pm
YAWN valley.....

:)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on October 14, 2015, 10:55:33 am
Well here we are - A&M has now completed 75% of putting a College Football Program together.   Launched by joining the SEC 4 yrs ago, they brought in Sumlin - who's upgraded to a top coaching staff, built the nicest facilities in all the land, and gave top UT's recruits a legit option.  The Perfect Storm began to build with the unexpected success of Johnny Manziel who created excitement and exposure, when A&M was expected to struggle.  Perhaps the most important gift was the miserable crash of the Longhorns.  Last week the Longhorns knocked off a Top 10 Oklahoma and celebrated like they'd won the National Championship.  Is this Windfall about to slow down?  It might not matter now that A&M has came this far, but a Longhorn whooping by Texas Tech, & Baylor, would favor A&M.

Alabama 59-0 A&M, marked another turning point in A&M's program last year.  Freshman Kyle Allen took the reigns afterward, Kenny Hill was benched/transferred.  Other key personal were replaced, including coaches - leading to an eventual Chavis hire.  A&M went into the offseason, picking up good recruits and Chavis, and expecting a good 2015 season improving with each game.

Is A&M ready for Bama yet?  I don't thing A&M losing or winning will effect the storm much, unless one team completely dominates - influencing recruits.  That last 25% of the program is all about recruits!  Bama has played two consecutive running teams, their defensive players claim to be the best in the Nation.  Will they stop A&M's balanced passing and running game?  A&M will spread out Bama's front seven out and create real estate.  Did Arkansas teach A&M's Defense how to play a run team?  Every game is huge for Alabama, having lost to Ole Miss.  A&M needs to finish the season strong and not let Sumlin go to USC.   
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on October 16, 2015, 04:40:57 pm
#9 Texas A&M is getting better, but 'better' isn't good enough to beat #10 Alabama

Will QB, Kyle Allen, be efficient passing to Christian Kirk, Ricky Seals-Jones, Josh Reynolds, Speedy Noil, Edward Pope, or any of the 10 backup wide receivers?  Will the backup QB, Kyler Murray (fastest QB in college football), come in for some Wildcat Type plays?  If the passing game is working, can A&M get a running game going?  Will Alabama run loose up the middle?  A&M should sell out to the run, can Coker establish a passing game?  Will turnovers make the difference?  Going to be a lot of strategy in this game.  After today there will only be two SEC Teams in the Top 10.
 


 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on October 17, 2015, 06:43:08 pm
Nope - A&M couldn't do much of that.  Bama defense scored more than their offense.  Interesting game - A&M looked like a less experienced team, seemed to learn as the game progressed, but got banged up.  They need to finish up descent, sign those defensive commits, and come back a legit grown up team 2016.   

Meanwhile I hope LSU is ready to represent the SEC.  I just don't think Alabama is consistent enough.     
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Proud Buckaroo on October 19, 2015, 10:45:41 am
...so after watching that game. Will Kyle allen start next game? Lol.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on October 19, 2015, 10:57:34 pm
Quote from: Proud Buckaroo on October 19, 2015, 10:45:41 am
...so after watching that game. Will Kyle allen start next game? Lol.

I figure he will, they've got a good senior, but why not get Allen as much experience as possible for next year.  They could get Murray some playing time as well.  Seems like they ought to try and get both of them ready to go.  Did you see how fast Daylon Mack, 335 lb freshman DT, gets in the backfield?  I'd bet that they work hard trying to put a running game together before next year.         
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on October 26, 2015, 01:57:47 pm
There's a storm brewing but it isn't the one you were thinking off.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/texas-a-m-aggies-kevin-sumlin-lost-trust-kyler-murray-102515


There's also a video of Sumlin, but it's not suitable do to some language to post on FF.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: fastdrop on October 26, 2015, 05:49:09 pm
I am just hoping I don't have to watch them again in the Liberty Bowl.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on October 26, 2015, 10:29:39 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 26, 2015, 01:57:47 pm
There's a storm brewing but it isn't the one you were thinking off.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/texas-a-m-aggies-kevin-sumlin-lost-trust-kyler-murray-102515


There's also a video of Sumlin, but it's not suitable do to some language to post on FF.

I don't know about the discipline thing, but I have to agree with Murray's crowd.  With Allen struggling, give Murray his shot.  I've thought they should've been playing Murray in every game.  The Perfect Storm is still on schedule, but has taken on an erratic pattern.  If they blow that momentum and loose those recruits to Texas, the perfect might leave the storm.  There is really only two things keeping them from being a very good team, offense & defense.  ;)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on October 27, 2015, 05:51:23 am
Quote from: Valleysports on October 26, 2015, 10:29:39 pm
Quote from: ricepig on October 26, 2015, 01:57:47 pm
There's a storm brewing but it isn't the one you were thinking off.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/texas-a-m-aggies-kevin-sumlin-lost-trust-kyler-murray-102515


There's also a video of Sumlin, but it's not suitable do to some language to post on FF.

I don't know about the discipline thing, but I have to agree with Murray's crowd.  With Allen struggling, give Murray his shot.  I've thought they should've been playing Murray in every game.  The Perfect Storm is still on schedule, but has taken on an erratic pattern.  If they blow that momentum and loose those recruits to Texas, the perfect might leave the storm.  There is really only two things keeping them from being a very good team, offense & defense.  ;)

And Sumlin's habits.......
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Lions84 on October 27, 2015, 10:12:32 am
LOL TAMU lost to Ole Myth.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on October 27, 2015, 10:15:32 am
Quote from: Lions84 on October 27, 2015, 10:12:32 am
LOL TAMU lost to Ole Myth.

So did Bama..........
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on November 17, 2015, 05:06:56 pm
Sorry I keep forgetting this Bduby.  Well the storm has definitely missed opportunities, what the cause and effect is, I'm out of predictions.  It's all about recruits.  Will A&M lose top 2016 recruits, the last piece of the puzzle?  Can Chavez turn the Defense around, hard to believe how easy opponents ran though them.  Kyle Allen - what happened?  I predicted the team would peak with him - now they're starting over with an freshman (an extremely talented freshman however). 

I started off by saying that A&M moving to the SEC wouldn't be good for Arkansas.  Then I saw that they have everything needed to build a top program at the same time the Longhorns hit skid row.  Maybe their success happen when Chavez puts together a strong defense.  I'm not pulling the plug on my predictions yet, but I'll certainly admit they've fallen off pace. 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on November 17, 2015, 05:08:24 pm

Quote from: cotnhauler on September 26, 2015, 09:59:16 pmMan, when you look at what aTm has got coming its scary. We don't have many players.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on December 10, 2015, 07:12:47 pm
https://twitter.com/ArRecruitingGuy/status/675116523728543744
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: bdubyab60 on December 10, 2015, 07:51:04 pm
BIG 12 school?
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on December 10, 2015, 08:11:37 pm
Quote from: bdubyab60 on December 10, 2015, 07:51:04 pm
BIG 12 school?

Report I saw said Cal was a potential spot, but it didn't say if there were any limits of where he can transfer.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on December 10, 2015, 08:17:01 pm
This article mentions Oklahoma. Speaking of Oklahoma, their backup QB is transferring.
https://twitter.com/SportsTalkwBo/status/675120448787587072
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on December 10, 2015, 11:03:56 pm
I think losing Allen is better than losing Murray.  Allen could end up an NFL QB - Murray is a faster Johnny Manziel.  He'll be fund to watch. 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on December 16, 2015, 10:27:44 am
Well Ricepig I went to an A&M site to see what they were saying, about Allen leaving.  I'm not saying it won't happen now (2016), but I'll admit they've fumbled the Perfect Storm opportunity.  If they would've had a season, like the Hogs (finishing strong), I'd still be confident about my predictions.  But now I think they've given up that recruiting advantage they temporarily held (or at least shared) over Texas.  Perfect Storm is based mainly on recruits. A&M has absolutely everything needed for a top tier program, on paper.  However I think the article said 5 QB's have transferred since Manziel left.  Why? Kyle Allen replaced Kenny Hill (TCU), just like Murry is replacing Allen (maybe Oklahoma).  It was kind of expected - you pointed out the potential problem when they signed Murray.  Is Sumlin the right coach?  Anyhow I predicted that by the end of this season (2015), everyone would realize A&M is on the eve of dominance.  Didn't happen!  :)   
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on December 16, 2015, 11:38:48 am
Quote from: Valleysports on December 16, 2015, 10:27:44 am
Well Ricepig I went to an A&M site to see what they were saying, about Allen leaving.  I'm not saying it won't happen now (2016), but I'll admit they've fumbled the Perfect Storm opportunity.  If they would've had a season, like the Hogs (finishing strong), I'd still be confident about my predictions.  But now I think they've given up that recruiting advantage they temporarily held (or at least shared) over Texas.  Perfect Storm is based mainly on recruits. A&M has absolutely everything needed for a top tier program, on paper.  However I think the article said 5 QB's have transferred since Manziel left.  Why? Kyle Allen replaced Kenny Hill (TCU), just like Murry is replacing Allen (maybe Oklahoma).  It was kind of expected - you pointed out the potential problem when they signed Murray.  Is Sumlin the right coach?  Anyhow I predicted that by the end of this season (2015), everyone would realize A&M is on the eve of dominance.  Didn't happen!  :)   

It basically tells you that the SEC is a tough..........anyway, it will be interesting to see how Sumlin handles/survives these late season stumbles. I agree, they have the talent, especially on the offensive side, but will they put it all together?
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on December 16, 2015, 02:14:17 pm
https://twitter.com/DannyWest1/status/677219501104992256
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: SUGARTOWN on December 16, 2015, 02:45:18 pm
Maybe Uncle Rico can QB the Aggies next season. Do they have any QB's left as this point?  :D

(http://i.imgur.com/oOXDJDU.jpg)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on December 16, 2015, 02:57:33 pm
Well, Trevor Knight is a grad transfer from OU, I bet his phone is buzzing.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on December 16, 2015, 08:18:17 pm
I wanted to see Kyler play QB - heard he's going baseball.  Ricepig, I get an out clause since I made my predictions around them having at least 1 of 3 QB's who've all transferred, don't I?  LOL  That's crazy.  Texas Longhorns must be eating this up!   ::)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on December 16, 2015, 08:24:43 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on December 16, 2015, 08:18:17 pm
I wanted to see Kyler play QB - heard he's going baseball.  Ricepig, I get an out clause since I made my predictions around them having 1 of 3 QB's who've all transferred, don't I?  LOL  That's crazy.  Texas Longhorns must be eating this up!   ::)

Yeah, they are from what I've read, lol. Sumlin says Murray will be at practice tomorrow from what I've read, I guess we'll see.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on December 18, 2015, 03:41:33 pm
Friends with a TECH Player, from Houston, who's a Longhorn Fan.  Asked him if he was enjoying A&M's destruction.  Well he told me that Ricky Seals Jones is his cousin and Ricky say's both Allen & Murray were  worried about competing with some freshman from the Dallas area.  He said this kid was a freshman this year and legit.  I looked up the roster, there are 5 QB's, but I can't figure out who this might be nor any QB from around Dallas.  We might get to see all 5 in their upcoming bowl game.  haha 
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on December 26, 2015, 07:24:53 pm
Worked out well - Murray is transferring to Oklahoma.  He'll play against Texas  ;D 
Oklahoma is one of Allen's four choices also, wouldn't that be something if Allen ended up there with Murray.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on December 30, 2015, 07:13:40 pm
Perfect Storm fizzled out before coming a shore!  Coaches will be fired after this bowl game.  A&M will lose (have lost) the recruiting advantages they were getting from moving to the SEC, the Manziel effect, and Longhorn crash.  They might put together winning seasons, maybe even next year, but they've blown the unusual opportunity they had.  Seals said the new OC ran Allen and Murray off.  I missed!
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Fatfullback on January 04, 2016, 03:59:05 pm
Well it's a dadgum shame anyway.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on January 04, 2016, 04:04:11 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on December 30, 2015, 07:13:40 pm
Perfect Storm fizzled out before coming a shore!  Coaches will be fired after this bowl game.  A&M will lose (have lost) the recruiting advantages they were getting from moving to the SEC, the Manziel effect, and Longhorn crash.  They might put together winning seasons, maybe even next year, but they've blown the unusual opportunity they had.  Seals said the new OC ran Allen and Murray off.  I missed!

Well, Sumlin ran off the new OC, haha.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: AirWarren on January 05, 2016, 08:47:33 am
Former Oklahoma Qb Trevor knight transfers to TAMU.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: ricepig on January 05, 2016, 09:21:37 am
Quote from: AirWarren on January 05, 2016, 08:47:33 am
Former Oklahoma Qb Trevor knight transfers to TAMU.

They traded QB's, I believe since Knight only has one year left, Oklahoma owes them a QB to be named later.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Longfellow on January 05, 2016, 11:13:58 am
Kyle Allen will transfer to Houston, per reports
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: HorseFeathers on January 07, 2016, 02:53:58 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on January 05, 2016, 11:13:58 am
Kyle Allen will transfer to Houston, per reports

Is Houston sending a Qb to A&M as well?
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: mack on January 07, 2016, 03:24:54 pm
Quote from: HF on January 07, 2016, 02:53:58 pm
Quote from: Longfellow on January 05, 2016, 11:13:58 am
Kyle Allen will transfer to Houston, per reports

Is Houston sending a Qb to A&M as well?

Nope, cash and a draft pick to be named later....
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on December 24, 2020, 09:23:11 am
Quote from: Hoghead on May 13, 2014, 07:42:26 am
Arkansas leads the series 41-26-3.  Hogs will get it togather and continue to dominate the Aggies !

AirWarren, I wish mack, birdman, ricepig were still around.  Hoghead, Lionheart88, True Fan, Big Fan, Bdubyab60, SUGARTOWN, Uncle Ivan, DogsWin7, RTF, Rulesman, Bleudog, Lions84 .  Do you think they dropped out because they knew this day was coming?  I know they're all thinking "Ole Valley really did recognize a football program in the making"..   ;D

It took longer than I thought, but looking back I see how the pieces of the puzzle kept falling into place.  Move to SEC, Infrastructure, $250,000 annual revenue, 110,000 capacity stadium, superior football facilities, full buy-in from administration, building a fun town around campus to attract recruit. Sumlin filled the coaches position while everything was being put into place.  Last step was to hire a $75 million coach, and assistants, with recruiting skills.  Reading back over this thread, predicting A&M would become an elite program in SEC is interesting.

Blue-Chip Ratio: 
Pre SEC -  Prior to joining SEC (2012), A&M's recruit classes ranked around 20th in the nation. 
Sumlin (2012-2018) after joining SEC, recruit classes ranked around 12.
JimBo Fisher - recruit classes are ranking around 5 (3 yrs).
Blue-Chip Ratio has risen from 15%, to 50%, and looking like 75% this year.
In 3.5 yrs JimBo has brought in 60, 4/5 star recruits.     
A&M is not Bama yet, but they have definitely crossed the threshold as a Blue-Chip Program.       
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on May 20, 2021, 05:40:45 pm
https://twitter.com/i/status/1395310844087476226 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1395310844087476226)

Just another heart warming story...   ;)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on June 18, 2021, 05:52:16 pm
Four-star Fayetteville receiver Isaiah Sategna has announced he is decommitting from Texas A&M.
A&M has had 23 Five Star Recruits, on Campus, in June....
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on July 17, 2021, 06:33:54 pm
And here we go  >:(

The Texas A&M Football team is one of the many college football programs that will be hugely benefitting from college football's new NIL rules. In years past, student-athletes couldn't make any money, so any deals had to be under the table.

Now, any money exchanges will be happening in plain sight. We're already witnessing one of these with Texas A&M Football running back Isaiah Spiller and safety Demani Richardson. According to TexAgs, the two Aggie standouts will be part of interviews, ahead of SEC Media Days, sponsored by GreenPrint Real Estate in partnership with TexAgs.

This will earn each player $10,000, making it one of the more noteworthy NIL deals in the state thus far.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 18, 2021, 12:19:52 pm
The Aggies are on the way to becoming the most international team in college football, as they have added Swedish, 6'6" 245 LB, tight end Theodor Ohrstrom to their 2023 class to go with two natives of Australia (as well as 19 states and the District of Columbia).  The Aggies now have four commits for their 2023 class, and all are 4-stars. Two are from Texas, one is from Louisiana, and one is from seven time zones away.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on August 29, 2021, 08:13:26 am
2022 - A&M
https://twitter.com/i/status/1431832881316433923
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on June 01, 2022, 07:11:52 pm
A winning team can be built on great recruiting classes (example LSU's National Championship), but building a football program takes a lot longer and starts years before the top recruit classes fall into place.  The last element to building a Program is Player Depth. If a QB goes down, another 5 star QB takes his place.  Football Programs reload year after year.

Has A&M built a program yet? Well they've gotten all the infrastructure in place, etc..  But they didn't have that depth in 2021..  Last year's ineffective backup QB moved on, the injured starter is back, a 1 yr veteran starter transferred in, and they landed a 5 star freshman.  The starting 2021 freshman OL now have a year of experience with added depth. Though young, A&M now has a load of top TE's & WR..  Defense has depth. Upper Classmen are from #4,#6,#8 Classes (#18 replaced with #1).  The 2022 #1 Class certainly indicates A&M has built a program, but that class won't really be a factor until next year. Programs have to win consistently, year after year, so while A&M is knocking on the door they haven't proven it yet.  Meanwhile the Portal might've changed everything.                     
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on October 25, 2022, 03:44:50 pm
Update October 2022:  Looks like A&M has blown their opportunity.  Head Coach too arrogant to hire an Offensive Coordinator?  Will recruits head for the door?  A&M taking their program to the next tier, is looking doubtful. Who's the next? LSU, Texas, Tennessee?   
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: bdubyab60 on October 30, 2022, 05:53:52 pm
All 3 of those teams are going to be a handful. Tenner definitely looks the real deal.

Jimbo's change at QB will buy him another year unless the behind the scenes stuff gets to much to handle
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: Valleysports on September 02, 2023, 11:10:36 pm
Here we are 2023, will Aggies Aggy?  ::)
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: DerekOxford on September 02, 2023, 11:44:17 pm
Quote from: Valleysports on September 02, 2023, 11:10:36 pmHere we are 2023, will Aggies Aggy?  ::)

Offense looks pretty good. Defense remains to be seen. They've got Miami on the road next week. That will be a more legitimate look at them.
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: bulldoghistorian on November 12, 2023, 02:04:46 pm
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38880082/jimbo-fisher-expected-fired-texas-sources-confirm
Title: Re: A&M's Perfect Storm
Post by: HorseFeathers on November 12, 2023, 06:29:00 pm
Looks like the Storm kinda fizzled out