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Started by Beardad, December 15, 2015, 09:25:29 pm

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Lions84

I expect JC to get a wake up call like USC did when they got bumped up.

THA TRUTH

After losing in the second round last year u think this will be the wake up call??

Coltfan2005

Quote from: FBfan79 on January 20, 2016, 12:34:07 pm
JC will jump right in the mix of the top 3A teams.



Seems like someone said that about Boonesville a few years ago

Coltfan2005

Quote from: ISU7 on January 09, 2016, 12:44:37 pm
Harding Academy will be loaded again, they lose their qb but three of their top receivers and their runningback will be back. RiverCrest will lose about 5 seniors one being Langston, but the Colts backfield will still be very good next season. Returning will be  three experience runningbacks and the starting qb who will be pushed by former all everything at RC in his time at Crest, Demoine Brown lil brother who was a three year starter for the Colts jr high team.The O and D- line will be huge again losing only one senior and gaining four more big guys two from jr. high that played in the post season and two more that missed last season. They will also have two of their Linebackers back who missed most of last season beginning from game 5 and 6.

BROWN for QB? The Colts need a QB whao can run, it's been missing from the offense since about 2010.

BigLion10

Junction would probably destroy booneville just saying

ReddieKnightTrojan

This thread has already got 4 pages. If that is any kind of indicator, I'd say JC makes at least the semis.

Jimbo Morphis

Quote from: BigLion10 on April 20, 2016, 09:49:23 pm
Junction would probably destroy booneville just saying
no

AirWarren

Quote from: ReddieKnightTrojan on April 21, 2016, 07:32:32 am
This thread has already got 4 pages. If that is any kind of indicator, I'd say JC makes at least the semis.

It's going to be nice to see JC have to play someone finally. And not travel on the road to WMS beating teams like cutter morning star and such.

WPWells

Quote from: Coltfan2005 on April 20, 2016, 08:51:45 pm
Seems like someone said that about Boonesville a few years ago

I guess you don't remember Booneville jumping right in and getting second in conference (behind eventual state champs Charleston) and then making the state semifinals before losing on a late score (again, to eventual state champs and one of the most dominant teams I have seen at this level, Charleston)

FBfan79

Quote from: Fred Bird on April 21, 2016, 11:38:02 am
I guess you don't remember Booneville jumping right in and getting second in conference (behind eventual state champs Charleston) and then making the state semifinals before losing on a late score (again, to eventual state champs and one of the most dominant teams I have seen at this level, Charleston)

Exactly

Lumberjackfan1978

It want be a cakewalk for JC

thabeast428

It may not be but I don't think Jc will be a cake walk for any other team in 3a either. I believe they will hold their own and surprise the people that are doubting them.

Jimbo Morphis

April 22, 2016, 03:39:19 pm #162 Last Edit: May 03, 2016, 01:09:16 pm by Oldman
Quote from: thabeast428 on April 22, 2016, 03:03:57 pm
It may not be but I don't think Jc will be a cake walk for any other team in 3a either. I believe they will hold their own and surprise the people that are doubting them.
they will more than hold their own and shouldn't surprise anyone. they will come in as a top 10 team. just not sure where they belong in that 10.

Monsta

I'm ready to watching Junction City Dominate 3A and anyone else who stands in their way.

AirWarren

Quote from: Monsta on May 03, 2016, 12:24:24 pm
I'm ready to watching Junction City Dominate 3A and anyone else who stands in their way.

Cutter morning star, parkers Chapel, strong, etc isn't in 3A, so you must be confused.

bleudog

May 03, 2016, 01:10:18 pm #165 Last Edit: May 03, 2016, 01:43:22 pm by bleudog
Quote from: AirWarren on April 21, 2016, 09:26:03 am
It's going to be nice to see JC have to play someone finally. And not travel on the road to WMS beating teams like cutter morning star and such.

Quote from: AirWarren on May 03, 2016, 12:41:06 pm
Cutter morning star, parkers Chapel, strong, etc isn't in 3A, so you must be confused.

Why these multiple references to CMS? 

There are weak and strong teams in each classification, but I don't think Junction and CMS have ever played each other.

And Strong just had an alumnus (with a 2A state championship ring) who was taken in the fourth round of the NFL draft after accumulating the second highest touchdown total in NCAA history.

Jimbo Morphis

Quote from: Monsta on May 03, 2016, 12:24:24 pm
I'm ready to watching Junction City Dominate 3A and anyone else who stands in their way.
meh

Jimbo Morphis

Quote from: unbiased_fan on May 03, 2016, 01:14:26 pm
Bc cutter went 0-10 last year and that's the worst 2A school he can think of.  Not sure what his beef is with JC.  Like Bearden and Rison aren't always quality opponents in that conference.  And even the strongs and Hermitage and the rest of the teams in that conference always put some talent on the field.
Do you think 3a is tougher than 2a? Do you think Junction City will come in and dominate 3a like they have 2a?

bleudog

May 03, 2016, 02:04:05 pm #168 Last Edit: May 03, 2016, 04:38:04 pm by bleudog
2015 Calpreps Power Ratings for 2A/3A:

  1   Harding Academy (Searcy, AR)   team preview   trend   3A    22.10
  2   McCrory (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    21.80
  3   Prescott (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    19.50
  4   Mount Ida (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    13.40
  5   Rivercrest (Wilson, AR)   team preview   trend   3A    12.50
  6   Glen Rose (Malvern, AR)   team preview   trend   3A    12.10
  7   Smackover (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    11.70
  8   Rison (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    9.90
  9   Lamar (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    9.50
10   Danville (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    8.80
11   England (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    6.70
12   Episcopal (Little Rock, AR)   team preview   trend   3A    6.70
13   Centerpoint (Amity, AR)   team preview   trend   3A    5.30
14   Fordyce (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    4.40
15   Des Arc (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    3.70
16   Charleston (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    3.00
17   Greenland (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    2.10
18   Hector (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    1.40
19   Hoxie (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    0.90
20   Conway Christian (Conway, AR)   team preview   trend   2A    0.80
21   Paris (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    0.70

22   Harmony Grove (Benton, AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (0.60)
23   Junction City (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (1.60)
24   West Fork (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (2.00)
25   Hackett (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (3.70)
26   Hazen (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (4.30)
27   Harmony Grove (Camden, AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (4.50)
28   Gurdon (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (4.70)
29   Lafayette County (Stamps, AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (6.40)
30   Cross County (Cherry Valley, AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (6.80)
31   Bald Knob (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (7.40)
32   Booneville (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (7.70)
33   Mountainburg (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (9.40)
34   Cedar Ridge (Newark, AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (10.10)
35   Brinkley (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (10.20)
36   Osceola (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (10.20)
37   Earle (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (10.40)
38   Fouke (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (11.80)
39   Horatio (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (12.20)
40   Mansfield (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (12.30)
41   Piggott (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (12.80)
42   Manila (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (13.60)
43   Lavaca (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (13.90)
44   Dierks (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (14.60)
45   Jessieville (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (15.10)
46   McGehee (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (15.50)
47   Atkins (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (16.00)
48   Magnet Cove (Malvern, AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (16.50)
49   Elkins (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (16.50)
50   Lee (Marianna, AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (17.50)
51   Poyen (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (17.90)
52   Mayflower (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (18.10)
53   Murfreesboro (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (18.20)
54   Mountain View (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (20.10)
55   Melbourne (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (20.60)
56   Marked Tree (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (21.00)
57   Hermitage (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (21.30)
58   Perryville (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (23.70)
59   Two Rivers (Ola, AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (23.80)
60   Spring Hill (Hope, AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (24.10)
61   Strong (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (25.10)
62   West Side (Coal Hill, AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (25.30)
63   Carlisle (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (25.30)
64   Walnut Ridge (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (25.40)
65   Parkers Chapel (El Dorado, AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (26.90)
66   Green Forest (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (27.00)
67   Bearden (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (27.40)
68   Cedarville (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (27.60)
69   Augusta (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (28.40)
70   Mineral Springs (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (28.50)
71   Quitman (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (29.60)
72   Genoa Central (Texarkana, AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (31.20)
73   Salem (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (31.30)
74   Palestine-Wheatley (Palestine, AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (31.60)
75   East Poinsett County (Lepanto, AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (32.00)
76   Bigelow (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (32.40)
77   Union Christian Academy (Fort Smith, AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (32.90)
78   Rose Bud (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (34.00)
79   Bismarck (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (34.50)
80   Marshall (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (34.60)
81   Hampton (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (34.80)
82   Drew Central (Monticello, AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (34.90)
83   Yellville-Summit (Yellville, AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (36.00)
84   Lakeside (Lake Village, AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (37.10)
85   Barton (Lexa, AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (37.20)
86   Foreman (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (37.90)
87   Corning (AR)   team preview   trend   3A    (39.50)
88   Leftwich [J. D.] (Magazine, AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (42.60)
89   Clarendon (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (44.90)
90   Woodlawn (Rison, AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (45.00)
91   Mountain Pine (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (45.50)
92   Decatur (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (45.50)
93   Rector (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (51.40)
94   Marvell (AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (51.80)
95   Midland (Pleasant Plains, AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (53.10)
96   Western Yell County (Havana, AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (54.40)
97   Cutter-Morning Star (Hot Springs National Park, AR)   team preview   trend   2A    (55.30)

http://calpreps.com/2015/ratings/Arkansas_division.htm



But please consider the 2015 Dragons had the school's lowest Calpreps power rating in 13 years.

2003        46.2  State Champion
2014        37.1  State Champion
2009        34.6  State Champion
2008        34.4  State Champion
2012        31.2  State Champion
2013        28.6  State Champion
2004        18.2
2006        18.0  State Runner-up
2011        17.2
2005        15.3
2007        15.1
2010        (0.4)
2015        (1.6)
Average    22.6

The 2014, 2012 and 2003 JC teams had higher power ratings than the 3A state champions for each of those years.  The 2009 JC team had a lower power rating than the 3A state champion that year but got an on-field win against them in week #1.

As they say in the investment business, "past performance is no guarantee of future results," but if JC can return to "average" in 2016, they should hold their own in 3A.


Hootie

Quote from: unbiased_fan on May 03, 2016, 02:57:52 pm
No, not with the teams they have.  I think they will be fine and competitive for championships,  buy they don't have near the talent that they did in that 2015 senior class that beat everybody. That class would have dominated 4a

I think they could have competed at a very high level, but dominated?? No. ::)

THA TRUTH

Quote from: Hootie on May 03, 2016, 04:36:33 pm
I think they could have competed at a very high level, but dominated?? No. ::)




Let's put it this way... If wynne was the second best team in 5a in 2014 JC would've been the runner up at the very least

bleudog

May 04, 2016, 12:30:35 pm #171 Last Edit: May 05, 2016, 06:46:00 pm by bleudog
Quote from: unbiased_fan on May 03, 2016, 02:57:52 pm
No, not with the teams they have.  I think they will be fine and competitive for championships,  buy they don't have near the talent that they did in that 2015 senior class that beat everybody. That class would have dominated 4a

http://calpreps.com/2014/ratings/Arkansas_all.htm

WPWells

How quickly y'all forget how strong Charleston was those years

THA TRUTH

I saw Charleston and they were nothing compared to Jc... Y'all struggled with smackovers athletes so I know there was no chance of y'all being able to keep up with Jc

Jimbo Morphis

Quote from: bleudog on May 04, 2016, 12:30:35 pm
http://calpreps.com/2014/ratings/Arkansas_all.htm
only people from smackover use calpreps on the 3a board. the democrat is better than them.

AirWarren

Quote from: Oldman on May 06, 2016, 08:34:00 am
only people from smackover use calpreps on the 3a board. the democrat is better than them.

Calpreps is no different than creating "your team" on a video game and let the computer's play each other.

bleudog

Quote from: Oldman on May 06, 2016, 08:34:00 am
only people from smackover use calpreps on the 3a board. the democrat is better than them.

Now that's funny right there.

bleudog

Quote from: AirWarren on May 06, 2016, 09:38:20 am
Calpreps is no different than creating "your team" on a video game and let the computer's play each other.

Yep, it's so much more FF-like just to attack ones keyboard with the my-team-is-better-than-your-team-just-because argument.   Data and objectivity are so overrated. ;)

AirWarren

May 06, 2016, 10:17:52 am #178 Last Edit: May 06, 2016, 10:21:34 am by AirWarren
Quote from: bleudog on May 06, 2016, 09:50:01 am
Yep, it's so much more FF-like just to attack ones keyboard with the my-team-is-better-than-your-team-just-because argument.   Data and objectivity are so overrated. ;)

Combined Records(aka competition level per conference)

2A
48 teams
Win Total: 255
Loss Total: 272

3A
48 Teams
Win Total: 266
Loss Total: 278

4A
48 Teams
Win Total: 280
Loss Total: 256

5A
31 Teams
Win Total: 161
Loss Total: 174

6A/7A
31 Teams
Win total: 189
Loss Total: 175

7A schools Alone
Win Total: 90
Loss Total: 81

Which Proves what I have been saying for a long time. THE best football in the state is played at the 4A and 7A levels and I suppose data is overrated :D

BUT, I suppose JC does have a chance to win 3A and possibly 5A, by "data" those are equally as bad conferences as 2A.

bleudog

May 06, 2016, 02:21:23 pm #179 Last Edit: May 06, 2016, 04:21:17 pm by bleudog
Quote from: AirWarren on May 06, 2016, 10:17:52 am
.........THE best football in the state is played at the 4A and 7A levels.........


http://calpreps.com/2015/ratings/Arkansas_divisions.htm

SUGARTOWN

I think relying on a computer or website in another state that hasn't seen ANY Arkansas team play live is absolutely the best way to judge which team is better. LOL

bleudog

Quote from: SUGARTOWN on May 06, 2016, 03:07:58 pm
I think relying on a computer or website in another state that hasn't seen ANY Arkansas team play live is absolutely the best way to judge which team is better. LOL

http://www.calpreps.com/ratings.htm

THA TRUTH


hut1

Junction will have no problem in 3a

SUGARTOWN

Quote from: bleudog on May 06, 2016, 04:19:42 pm
http://www.calpreps.com/ratings.htm

No computer program can escape human bias as it is humans who input the data and conditions that warrant their results.

But by all means keep using it if you like, I'll keep using my trained eye and common sense when evaluating teams.

THA TRUTH

With ur so called trained eye who was the better team in 14 Charleston or Jc??

SUGARTOWN

I can't say as I didn't see Junction City play in 2014. I did see a little of Charleston, but as I didn't see JC play I won't hazard a guess as to who was better.

Perhaps I should put some numbers into a computer and let you know who it says was better... :D

THA TRUTH

Well anyone that saw both knows Jc was better and the computer feels the same so it's prolly more reliable than people that feel they know the game so well

Lineman

Quote from: SUGARTOWN on May 10, 2016, 07:56:58 am
I can't say as I didn't see Junction City play in 2014. I did see a little of Charleston, but as I didn't see JC play I won't hazard a guess as to who was better.

Perhaps I should put some numbers into a computer and let you know who it says was better... :D
I've got a magic 8 ball, if it would help answer the question.

THA TRUTH

No need any man that understands the game would know the outcome

SUGARTOWN

Quote from: Lineman on May 10, 2016, 11:25:14 am
I've got a magic 8 ball, if it would help answer the question.

Magic 8 Ball is about as reliable as a computer.  :)

bleudog

May 10, 2016, 12:38:00 pm #191 Last Edit: May 10, 2016, 08:41:08 pm by bleudog
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on May 10, 2016, 12:21:46 pm
Magic 8 Ball is about as reliable as a computer.  :)

Doesn't Hooties use a magic eight ball as part of their algorithm? :-) 

ReddieKnightTrojan

Quote from: bleudog on May 10, 2016, 12:38:00 pm
Doesn't Hooties use a magic eight ball as part of their algorithm? :-)
"Hooties" shakes in a little emotion and sprinkles on some politics for good measure.

bleudog

But at least Hooties doesn't use a 'puter and we all know 'puters are the debil.

Jimbo Morphis

we have a pick em every year to find out on the 3a board. be sure and play.

Monsta

Can't nobody in 3A or 2A hang with Jc they have athletes every year and last season was a rebuilding season for them i can promise you jc will be the hardest team in 3A to beat and well all know smackover is not capable of beating them and smackover is the team to beat in 3A so i see jc playing for the championship this season.

Jimbo Morphis

Quote from: Monsta on May 11, 2016, 11:37:44 am
Can't nobody in 3A or 2A hang with Jc they have athletes every year and last season was a rebuilding season for them i can promise you jc will be the hardest team in 3A to beat and well all know smackover is not capable of beating them and smackover is the team to beat in 3A so i see jc playing for the championship this season.
whatabout4a5a6aand7a 

Lineman

The gospel according to cal preps has them listed as the all time world champs. I heard the NFL was going to rename the Lombardi trophy the Junction City trophy.

THA TRUTH

Why not they deserve it more than anyone in 2a or 3a

bleudog

May 11, 2016, 07:43:26 pm #199 Last Edit: May 11, 2016, 07:45:33 pm by bleudog
Quote from: Lineman on May 11, 2016, 02:23:33 pm
The gospel according to cal preps has them listed as the all time world champs. I heard the NFL was going to rename the Lombardi trophy the Junction City trophy.

#102:  http://calpreps.com/2015/ratings/Arkansas_all.htm

Although this one looks a little better:  http://calpreps.com/Arkansas_dynasty_ratings.htm

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