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Any schools in 4A moving up or down in the years to come

Started by bigchief72455, December 14, 2015, 12:17:51 pm

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bigchief72455

December 14, 2015, 12:17:51 pm Last Edit: December 14, 2015, 12:21:17 pm by bigchief72455
The 4A is the most loaded conference when it comes to the number of teams included. Just wondering if anyone has heard about movement in the next few years. I know Chief Chickasaw is speculating that Blytheville may move down to 4A and dominate.

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pghogfan


OLDSCHOOL82

Im almost certain Clinton had a random really small class so they will most likely be down only one cycle.  Newport I believe will settle in 3A unless something changes.  Booneville will be right on the line for awhile of not knowing whether or not they will be the biggest 3A or smallest 4A.  There are a couple 3A that could bump 4 the next count. Is the new Bentonville school in this count or not?

pghogfan

December 14, 2015, 01:27:20 pm #4 Last Edit: December 14, 2015, 01:30:10 pm by pghogfan
Quote from: OLDSCHOOL82 on December 14, 2015, 01:24:51 pm
Im almost certain Clinton had a random really small class so they will most likely be down only one cycle.  Newport I believe will settle in 3A unless something changes.  Booneville will be right on the line for awhile of not knowing whether or not they will be the biggest 3A or smallest 4A.  There are a couple 3A that could bump 4 the next count. Is the new Bentonville school in this count or not?

Yes. They bumped West Memphis down to 6A, which basically bumps Alma down to 5A. There are other changes too.

Here's the link for the 2016-18 numbers: http://members.ahsaa.org/public/userfiles/Admin/2016-18_Classification_Numbers.pdf

Here's a link to enrollment numbers by grade for each district: https://adedata.arkansas.gov/statewide/Districts/EnrollmentByGrade.aspx

It appears Clinton has a very small senior class. I wonder if that is what pushed them to 3A? They appear to be right on the borderline with Booneville and West Fork.


OLDSCHOOL82


MikeDiesel™

Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 14, 2015, 12:17:51 pm
The 4A is the most loaded conference when it comes to the number of teams included. Just wondering if anyone has heard about movement in the next few years. I know Chief Chickasaw is speculating that Blytheville may move down to 4A and dominate.

He did not speculate that they would dominate, just that they would be one of the largest schools in 4A.

bigchief72455

Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on December 14, 2015, 02:42:54 pm
Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 14, 2015, 12:17:51 pm
The 4A is the most loaded conference when it comes to the number of teams included. Just wondering if anyone has heard about movement in the next few years. I know Chief Chickasaw is speculating that Blytheville may move down to 4A and dominate.

He did not speculate that they would dominate, just that they would be one of the largest schools in 4A.
Ahh just read it wrong. They won't even be that for long. The Kipp school is taking their numbers.

bigchief72455


beach bum

Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 14, 2015, 03:15:29 pm
How is PA a 5A school with 300 enrollment?

They petition and play up in 5A.... if not they would be playing 4A by their numbers and being a private school.

bigchief72455

Quote from: beach bum on December 14, 2015, 03:38:59 pm
Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 14, 2015, 03:15:29 pm
How is PA a 5A school with 300 enrollment?

They petition and play up in 5A.... if not they would be playing 4A by their numbers and being a private school.
Thats nice. Didn't look like it hurt them any.

AirWarren

Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 14, 2015, 12:17:51 pm
The 4A is the most loaded conference when it comes to the number of teams included. Just wondering if anyone has heard about movement in the next few years. I know Chief Chickasaw is speculating that Blytheville may move down to 4A and dominate.

Please. After Monticello won 5A in 2009, they claimed they were coming down to 4a to wreak havoc. We see how that has gone.

Lionheart88

Quote from: AirWarren on December 14, 2015, 03:46:53 pm
Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 14, 2015, 12:17:51 pm
The 4A is the most loaded conference when it comes to the number of teams included. Just wondering if anyone has heard about movement in the next few years. I know Chief Chickasaw is speculating that Blytheville may move down to 4A and dominate.

Please. After Monticello won 5A in 2009, they claimed they were coming down to 4a to wreak havoc. We see how that has gone.
He actually just said they were going to "enjoy being big boys".  I'm pretty sure he just mean they'd be one of the largest 4A schools, a nice change from being one of the smaller 5A schools.

MikeDiesel™

Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 14, 2015, 03:08:50 pm
Quote from: MikeDiesel™ on December 14, 2015, 02:42:54 pm
Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 14, 2015, 12:17:51 pm
The 4A is the most loaded conference when it comes to the number of teams included. Just wondering if anyone has heard about movement in the next few years. I know Chief Chickasaw is speculating that Blytheville may move down to 4A and dominate.

He did not speculate that they would dominate, just that they would be one of the largest schools in 4A.
Ahh just read it wrong. They won't even be that for long. The Kipp school is taking their numbers.

Unless students start going to other places than just KIPP, we should stay near the largest schools in 4A for a few years.

Quote from: AirWarren on December 14, 2015, 03:46:53 pm
Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 14, 2015, 12:17:51 pm
The 4A is the most loaded conference when it comes to the number of teams included. Just wondering if anyone has heard about movement in the next few years. I know Chief Chickasaw is speculating that Blytheville may move down to 4A and dominate.

Please. After Monticello won 5A in 2009, they claimed they were coming down to 4a to wreak havoc. We see how that has gone.

No one from Blytheville has said anything about dominating on here.  It will be interesting.  We are heading in the right direction to have a chance at 'dominating' as we drop down.  But, we don't have any kind of history to back that up.  We like where we are as a football program right now though.

Qhcaoc

if Blytheville drops and Rivercrest comes up the 3-4a would be quite a bit tougher at least in football and basketball. I am assuming they would lose harrisburg and cave city

OB11

Quote from: Qhcaoc on December 15, 2015, 09:22:40 am
if Blytheville drops and Rivercrest comes up the 3-4a would be quite a bit tougher at least in football and basketball. I am assuming they would lose harrisburg and cave city

Yeah that conference would look quite a bit different if that happens. 

bigchief72455

Quote from: OliverBoy11 on December 15, 2015, 09:40:13 am
Quote from: Qhcaoc on December 15, 2015, 09:22:40 am
if Blytheville drops and Rivercrest comes up the 3-4a would be quite a bit tougher at least in football and basketball. I am assuming they would lose harrisburg and cave city

Yeah that conference would look quite a bit different if that happens.
It would definitely change the playoff landscape.

OB11

Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 15, 2015, 09:46:28 am
Quote from: OliverBoy11 on December 15, 2015, 09:40:13 am
Quote from: Qhcaoc on December 15, 2015, 09:22:40 am
if Blytheville drops and Rivercrest comes up the 3-4a would be quite a bit tougher at least in football and basketball. I am assuming they would lose harrisburg and cave city

Yeah that conference would look quite a bit different if that happens.
It would definitely change the playoff landscape.

I'd be willing to bet that move would help the Blytheville baseball program as well.  The 5A East is one of the most competitive baseball conferences every year.  Even an up year for Blytheville in baseball would probably leave them out of the postseason in their current conference.

bigchief72455

Quote from: OliverBoy11 on December 15, 2015, 09:53:20 am
Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 15, 2015, 09:46:28 am
Quote from: OliverBoy11 on December 15, 2015, 09:40:13 am
Quote from: Qhcaoc on December 15, 2015, 09:22:40 am
if Blytheville drops and Rivercrest comes up the 3-4a would be quite a bit tougher at least in football and basketball. I am assuming they would lose harrisburg and cave city

Yeah that conference would look quite a bit different if that happens.
It would definitely change the playoff landscape.

I'd be willing to bet that move would help the Blytheville baseball program as well.  The 5A East is one of the most competitive baseball conferences every year.  Even an up year for Blytheville in baseball would probably leave them out of the postseason in their current conference.
Yeah that conference is pretty tough. GCT is a baseball powerhouse.

OB11

Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 15, 2015, 10:01:45 am
Quote from: OliverBoy11 on December 15, 2015, 09:53:20 am
Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 15, 2015, 09:46:28 am
Quote from: OliverBoy11 on December 15, 2015, 09:40:13 am
Quote from: Qhcaoc on December 15, 2015, 09:22:40 am
if Blytheville drops and Rivercrest comes up the 3-4a would be quite a bit tougher at least in football and basketball. I am assuming they would lose harrisburg and cave city

Yeah that conference would look quite a bit different if that happens.
It would definitely change the playoff landscape.

I'd be willing to bet that move would help the Blytheville baseball program as well.  The 5A East is one of the most competitive baseball conferences every year.  Even an up year for Blytheville in baseball would probably leave them out of the postseason in their current conference.
Yeah that conference is pretty tough. GCT is a baseball powerhouse.

Tech, Nettleton, Valley View, Wynne, Batesville.  All great programs.  Paragould just got a new coach so look for them to be better in the coming years.  Forrest City always has some talent cycle through as well. 

bigchief72455

Quote from: OliverBoy11 on December 15, 2015, 10:05:11 am
Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 15, 2015, 10:01:45 am
Quote from: OliverBoy11 on December 15, 2015, 09:53:20 am
Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 15, 2015, 09:46:28 am
Quote from: OliverBoy11 on December 15, 2015, 09:40:13 am
Quote from: Qhcaoc on December 15, 2015, 09:22:40 am
if Blytheville drops and Rivercrest comes up the 3-4a would be quite a bit tougher at least in football and basketball. I am assuming they would lose harrisburg and cave city

Yeah that conference would look quite a bit different if that happens.
It would definitely change the playoff landscape.

I'd be willing to bet that move would help the Blytheville baseball program as well.  The 5A East is one of the most competitive baseball conferences every year.  Even an up year for Blytheville in baseball would probably leave them out of the postseason in their current conference.
Yeah that conference is pretty tough. GCT is a baseball powerhouse.

Tech, Nettleton, Valley View, Wynne, Batesville.  All great programs.  Paragould just got a new coach so look for them to be better in the coming years.  Forrest City always has some talent cycle through as well.
I will say this though. Not a knock. Rivercrest is going to see a whole lot better teams than they are used to seeing in the 3A football. 3A has a few but wow there are a lot here.

OB11

Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 15, 2015, 10:14:19 am
Quote from: OliverBoy11 on December 15, 2015, 10:05:11 am
Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 15, 2015, 10:01:45 am
Quote from: OliverBoy11 on December 15, 2015, 09:53:20 am
Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 15, 2015, 09:46:28 am
Quote from: OliverBoy11 on December 15, 2015, 09:40:13 am
Quote from: Qhcaoc on December 15, 2015, 09:22:40 am
if Blytheville drops and Rivercrest comes up the 3-4a would be quite a bit tougher at least in football and basketball. I am assuming they would lose harrisburg and cave city

Yeah that conference would look quite a bit different if that happens.
It would definitely change the playoff landscape.

I'd be willing to bet that move would help the Blytheville baseball program as well.  The 5A East is one of the most competitive baseball conferences every year.  Even an up year for Blytheville in baseball would probably leave them out of the postseason in their current conference.
Yeah that conference is pretty tough. GCT is a baseball powerhouse.

Tech, Nettleton, Valley View, Wynne, Batesville.  All great programs.  Paragould just got a new coach so look for them to be better in the coming years.  Forrest City always has some talent cycle through as well.
I will say this though. Not a knock. Rivercrest is going to see a whole lot better teams than they are used to seeing in the 3A football. 3A has a few but wow there are a lot here.

No doubt about that.  Rivercrest spent some time in the 4A a few years back.  Different level of competition.

Qhcaoc

Quote from: OliverBoy11 on December 15, 2015, 10:32:16 am
Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 15, 2015, 10:14:19 am
Quote from: OliverBoy11 on December 15, 2015, 10:05:11 am
Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 15, 2015, 10:01:45 am
Quote from: OliverBoy11 on December 15, 2015, 09:53:20 am
Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 15, 2015, 09:46:28 am
Quote from: OliverBoy11 on December 15, 2015, 09:40:13 am
Quote from: Qhcaoc on December 15, 2015, 09:22:40 am
if Blytheville drops and Rivercrest comes up the 3-4a would be quite a bit tougher at least in football and basketball. I am assuming they would lose harrisburg and cave city

Yeah that conference would look quite a bit different if that happens.
It would definitely change the playoff landscape.

I'd be willing to bet that move would help the Blytheville baseball program as well.  The 5A East is one of the most competitive baseball conferences every year.  Even an up year for Blytheville in baseball would probably leave them out of the postseason in their current conference.
Yeah that conference is pretty tough. GCT is a baseball powerhouse.

Tech, Nettleton, Valley View, Wynne, Batesville.  All great programs.  Paragould just got a new coach so look for them to be better in the coming years.  Forrest City always has some talent cycle through as well.
I will say this though. Not a knock. Rivercrest is going to see a whole lot better teams than they are used to seeing in the 3A football. 3A has a few but wow there are a lot here.

No doubt about that.  Rivercrest spent some time in the 4A a few years back.  Different level of competition.
I dont think they would be a state title contender anymore but still much tougher than most of that conference

OB11

Quote from: Qhcaoc on December 15, 2015, 11:26:58 am
Quote from: OliverBoy11 on December 15, 2015, 10:32:16 am
Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 15, 2015, 10:14:19 am
Quote from: OliverBoy11 on December 15, 2015, 10:05:11 am
Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 15, 2015, 10:01:45 am
Quote from: OliverBoy11 on December 15, 2015, 09:53:20 am
Quote from: bigchief72455 on December 15, 2015, 09:46:28 am
Quote from: OliverBoy11 on December 15, 2015, 09:40:13 am
Quote from: Qhcaoc on December 15, 2015, 09:22:40 am
if Blytheville drops and Rivercrest comes up the 3-4a would be quite a bit tougher at least in football and basketball. I am assuming they would lose harrisburg and cave city

Yeah that conference would look quite a bit different if that happens.
It would definitely change the playoff landscape.

I'd be willing to bet that move would help the Blytheville baseball program as well.  The 5A East is one of the most competitive baseball conferences every year.  Even an up year for Blytheville in baseball would probably leave them out of the postseason in their current conference.
Yeah that conference is pretty tough. GCT is a baseball powerhouse.

Tech, Nettleton, Valley View, Wynne, Batesville.  All great programs.  Paragould just got a new coach so look for them to be better in the coming years.  Forrest City always has some talent cycle through as well.
I will say this though. Not a knock. Rivercrest is going to see a whole lot better teams than they are used to seeing in the 3A football. 3A has a few but wow there are a lot here.

No doubt about that.  Rivercrest spent some time in the 4A a few years back.  Different level of competition.
I dont think they would be a state title contender anymore but still much tougher than most of that conference

I totally agree with you on the state title contender.  I think they would still make the playoffs just about every year in that conference. 

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