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Subiaco head coach open
« on: April 17, 2017, 09:00:14 pm »
 This will be a tough job I hope they take a chance on a young high energy Coach and get the program headed in the right direction.

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2017, 09:25:13 pm »
I hope they can find an excellent, well qualified, experienced coach who knows how to turn a program around. 

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2017, 09:28:27 pm »
I've always wondered about these private schools, do they hire based on beliefs?

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2017, 09:37:31 pm »
They will never be able to hire a successful Coach there the commitment to athletics is not there. They are going to have to hire a young Coach who will take a chance. If they could hire a proven Coach it will be a short stint just like Glover one year and no success and then they are gone. They also have to deal with veteran coaches being to vested in the public school system. Aso far as hiring based on Religion Im sure they would prefer a Catholic since it is a Catholic school but I'm not sure it will be mandatory.

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2017, 10:26:05 pm »
If the Trojans want to build up their program, they will need to use two key tactics:

Persuasion, and Retention.

As in, they must work to convince as many first-year students as possible to join the team, and they'll need to keep as many on the team as they can for several years.

Of course, Subi's very structure makes this easier said than done, with no direct feeders from lower grades and departures being a common occurrence.

Regardless, the Trojans' best hope for success will lie through long-term development. Let's see what comes of this.

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2017, 09:49:01 am »
The insertion of money, lots of money and a widespread recruiting program is desperately needed.  Great facilities, great equipment, as many perks as they can offer up. A recruiting program like what you are seeing in some states, Louisiana, Florida and some of the college prep schools up north. This would effectively make Subi a college prep school where athletics would take precedent.  Not saying it will be done but its the only way a school stuck in the middle of nowhere is going to build and sustain a good athletic program. Got to have something to attract them, this means they also need an organized activity plan, yeah I know they do some stuff now, but a vigorous plan to make living there and participating in the athletic program appealing.

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2017, 11:06:32 am »
I wonder what the pay is on a job like this? It would have to be pretty good considering retirement for public school teachers...?

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2017, 08:18:18 am »
The insertion of money, lots of money and a widespread recruiting program is desperately needed.  Great facilities, great equipment, as many perks as they can offer up. A recruiting program like what you are seeing in some states, Louisiana, Florida and some of the college prep schools up north. This would effectively make Subi a college prep school where athletics would take precedent.  Not saying it will be done but its the only way a school stuck in the middle of nowhere is going to build and sustain a good athletic program. Got to have something to attract them, this means they also need an organized activity plan, yeah I know they do some stuff now, but a vigorous plan to make living there and participating in the athletic program appealing.
Don't think this would ever happen. Subiaco's mission always has been molding young men and providing one of the best educational opportunities in the state. With the rise of Shiloh, PA, CAC, etc... as athletic powerhouses, subi has somewhat actively fought against athletics taking precedent. Subi's stated mission isn't to win per se, but for their students to grow as men, and grow as brothers through sports and being on a team. Barring a complete mindset shift from the Administration and Alumni, given that the monastery would even go along with it, this scenario is only real in the world of hypothetical.
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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2017, 11:09:29 pm »
What happened to Berry?

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2017, 08:01:17 am »
 Going to be the Dean of men.

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2017, 09:07:07 pm »
What happened to Berry?

Took the position of 'Director of Student Services'

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2017, 07:32:23 pm »
Any update?

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2017, 10:04:26 am »
 Looks like Subiaco has hired Steve Moore as coach don't know much about him but looks like he had some controversy at his last job in Arkansas. I hope it works out for him but it's going to be a tough job.

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2017, 10:19:19 am »
Subiaco's biggest problem is that they are so far from a major metropolitan area.  They have a great reputation for their academics.  It is difficult to draw students there, even though it is a boarding school, that can not drive to school daily and sleep in their own bed.

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2017, 12:57:37 pm »
Subiaco's biggest problem is that they are so far from a major metropolitan area.  They have a great reputation for their academics.  It is difficult to draw students there, even though it is a boarding school, that can not drive to school daily and sleep in their own bed.

To make that work with athletics you need a large student population that is athletically motivated.

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2017, 02:25:26 pm »
To make that work with athletics you need a large student population that is athletically motivated.
Or great recruiters and alumni that care about football.

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2017, 06:58:51 pm »
bout the same thang

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2017, 08:40:00 am »
Looks like Subiaco has hired Steve Moore as coach don't know much about him but looks like he had some controversy at his last job in Arkansas. I hope it works out for him but it's going to be a tough job.
Different Moore. They hired Tommy Moore of Louisiana. Last season he was the offensive coordinator at Natchitoches Central. Last head coaching job was at Leesville, LA where he was 11-20 over 3 years.

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2017, 10:00:02 am »
Different Moore. They hired Tommy Moore of Louisiana. Last season he was the offensive coordinator at Natchitoches Central. Last head coaching job was at Leesville, LA where he was 11-20 over 3 years.

Subiaco hired Steven Moore

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2017, 01:20:29 pm »
 I have talked to several people very close to the situation and they have told me it was Steve Moore and he was in Louisiana last year previously at Drew Central so I think AndyDavis you are wrong on this.

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2017, 01:57:44 pm »
I like the recruiting talk.... You do know it is illegal (even for private schools) to recruit towards athletics? I realize most do it, but I would watch admitting to it on a public board.

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2017, 02:14:09 pm »
 I don't think anyone close to Subiaco is talking about recruiting on here just people from the outside talking in general about private schools. I will say if they are recruiting they should fire whoever is doing it because they aren't very good at it and aren't getting their money's worth just go watch them play and that will be obvious.

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2017, 10:55:13 am »
I have talked to several people very close to the situation and they have told me it was Steve Moore and he was in Louisiana last year previously at Drew Central so I think AndyDavis you are wrong on this.
You are correct. My bad.

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2017, 11:44:02 pm »
Hopefully Steve stays around longer than he did at DC..

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2017, 06:42:48 pm »
Hopefully Steve stays around longer than he did at DC..

It will take a few years to get the program headed in the right direction.  Previous coaching staff left quite a mess and possibly in the worse state of affairs as it has ever been.  Fortunately for Coach Moore, the expectations at Subi are not very high.  He's going to need a lot of help and hopefully the two young assistant coaches on staff will be up to the task.
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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2017, 04:31:56 pm »
Hog-fan one should not talk so poorly about the institution most of their family graduated from.

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2017, 12:10:04 pm »
Hog-fan one should not talk so poorly about the institution most of their family graduated from.

Nothing in my comment is putting down Subiaco, just stating the facts as many of us Alums see it.  Sometimes the truth is hard to swallow, but in the end, it is still the truth.  This is an open discussion forum and if you feel my comments are unwarranted or unfair, you are entitled to disagree.  If you know me outside the forum, you are welcome to call me and I am prepared to defend my opinion.

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Re: Subiaco head coach open
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2017, 03:35:17 pm »
What happened to Berry?

Word from the Hill today is that Berry will now be the interim Headmaster while they search for a replacement for the Headmaster who just resigned.  Berry will do a fine job in that role and is good for Subi.  Overall he is a great person and cares for the students and faculty at Subiaco and his many years of experience on the Hill will aid in that.  He just ran out of gas with his passion to lead the football program, which no-one can fault him.  The football coaching gig will always be an uphill battle and it's difficult to keep the positive attitude and passion with so many defeats and the negativity that comes with it.  Mike Berry is an asset that Subiaco needs on campus, so they are in good hands during this transition.       

 

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