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2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« on: January 17, 2016, 04:58:53 pm »
BOYS
1. Jonesboro (12-2) 7A/6A-East
2. Fayetteville (14-2) 7A-West
3. LR Parkview (14-2) 6A-South
4. Bentonville (9-5) 7A-West
5. Hot Springs (15-3) 5A-South
6. Bryant (13-3) 7A/6A-Central
7. Van Buren (11-5) 7A/6A-Central
8. Monticello (12-1) 4A-8
9. LR Fair (12-2) 5A-Central
10. El Dorado (14-2) 6A-South

GIRLS
1. FS Northside (18-1) 7A-West
2. Conway (17-1) 7A/6A-Central
3. LR Central (15-0) 7A/6A-East
4. Russellville (13-1) 7A/6A-Central
5. Bentonville (13-2) 7A-West
6. Van Buren (13-4) 7A/6A-Central
7. Springdale (10-5) 7A-West
8. Fayetteville (10-6) 7A-West
9. North Little Rock (13-4) 7A/6A-East
10. Riverview (18-0) 4A-2

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2016, 09:34:00 am »
Good list.  The only thing I would switch around would be 1 and 2.   I think Fayetteville is the best team in the state right now.  Harber and Jonesboro was a 3 point game with Jonesboro wwinng while Fayetteville pretty much cruised against Harber last night. 

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2016, 11:27:42 am »
Jonesboro is better than Fayetteville?

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2016, 03:27:19 pm »
Jonesboro is better than Fayetteville?

Without a doubt.

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2016, 07:00:36 pm »
Fayetteville lost to Cabot, by 2. West Memphis beat Cabot by 9, according to Maxpreps. Jonesboro beat WM by 30. Comparing scores is dicey. The top ten will likely change a few times by the end of the season. 

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2016, 11:31:34 pm »
Fayetteville lost to Cabot, by 2. West Memphis beat Cabot by 9, according to Maxpreps. Jonesboro beat WM by 30. Comparing scores is dicey. The top ten will likely change a few times by the end of the season. 

True,  that's why you can only compare scores to a point.  But to me Fayetteville has a better arguement to be number 1.  They've beaten #3, #4, and #7 on that top ten list already.   Jonesboro has beaten no one on that list.  If you streched it out to top 20  Jonesboro would get a few but Fayetteville would tack on even more.   This is all just opinion but after see them, Bentonville, a lil Parkview, Hot Springs, and Jonesboro  they look like the better team....especially how they are playing right now.

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2016, 07:39:26 am »
Fayetteville lost to Cabot, by 2. West Memphis beat Cabot by 9, according to Maxpreps. Jonesboro beat WM by 30. Comparing scores is dicey. The top ten will likely change a few times by the end of the season. 

True,  that's why you can only compare scores to a point.  But to me Fayetteville has a better arguement to be number 1.  They've beaten #3, #4, and #7 on that top ten list already.   Jonesboro has beaten no one on that list.  If you streched it out to top 20  Jonesboro would get a few but Fayetteville would tack on even more.   This is all just opinion but after see them, Bentonville, a lil Parkview, Hot Springs, and Jonesboro  they look like the better team....especially how they are playing right now.

When did you see Jonesboro?

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2016, 10:10:01 am »
no way Jonesboro is the top team in the state. haven't saw Fayetteville, but Parkview is nice, and Hot Springs the real deal as well.

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2016, 10:40:50 am »
Fayetteville lost to Cabot, by 2. West Memphis beat Cabot by 9, according to Maxpreps. Jonesboro beat WM by 30. Comparing scores is dicey. The top ten will likely change a few times by the end of the season. 

True,  that's why you can only compare scores to a point.  But to me Fayetteville has a better arguement to be number 1.  They've beaten #3, #4, and #7 on that top ten list already.   Jonesboro has beaten no one on that list.  If you streched it out to top 20  Jonesboro would get a few but Fayetteville would tack on even more.   This is all just opinion but after see them, Bentonville, a lil Parkview, Hot Springs, and Jonesboro  they look like the better team....especially how they are playing right now.

When did you see Jonesboro?

Against Pine Bluff on NFHS.

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2016, 10:53:10 am »
Jonesboro was down the entire game vs. pine bluff, they came back in 4th quarter and won.

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2016, 12:57:17 pm »
Fayetteville lost to Cabot, by 2. West Memphis beat Cabot by 9, according to Maxpreps. Jonesboro beat WM by 30. Comparing scores is dicey. The top ten will likely change a few times by the end of the season. 

True,  that's why you can only compare scores to a point.  But to me Fayetteville has a better arguement to be number 1.  They've beaten #3, #4, and #7 on that top ten list already.   Jonesboro has beaten no one on that list.  If you streched it out to top 20  Jonesboro would get a few but Fayetteville would tack on even more.   This is all just opinion but after see them, Bentonville, a lil Parkview, Hot Springs, and Jonesboro  they look like the better team....especially how they are playing right now.

When did you see Jonesboro?

Against Pine Bluff on NFHS.

Ok, yeah, they were playing down to their competition, haha. Truthfully, I doubt they are the best team, who knows. They have had a history of starting slow this year and dominating in the 3rd and 4th quarters, it's not a good recipe to have. Swift has a team that goes at least 10 deep, like last year with Pointer replacing Ross at the point, they've struggled a little bit finding a leader. It appears that Eaton, the transfer Jr from HWC, is assuming that role.

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2016, 06:54:48 pm »
Jonesboro was down the entire game vs. pine bluff, they came back in 4th quarter and won.

Jonesboro beat PB by 8. and did not play well. Hot Springs beat PB by 10. Parkview beat PB by 5. Maybe PB is improving, or perhaps Hot Springs, Parkview, and JHS are fairly even ?                     
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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2016, 07:20:55 pm »
Pb is improving 10-5, right now, was 6-9 at this point last year. Maybe teams will keep playing down when they play PB but if I was Jonesboro I wouldn't play down to competition, it cost them a ring last season. let's not forget!! After seeing all three off those teams I would say Hot Springs is the best out of the 3. All starters return from last season. Chemistry is on point. Parkiew is good but lacking at the guard position.
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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2016, 07:30:34 pm »
A good life lesson for the kids last year. You need to be motivated to play any team in the finals, regardless of your perceptions, regarding the opponent. The results can be disappointing...     

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2016, 07:34:55 pm »
I agree

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2016, 07:45:39 pm »
Pb is improving 10-5, right now, was 6-9 at this point last year. Maybe teams will keep playing down when they play PB but if I was Jonesboro I wouldn't play down to competition, it cost them a ring last season. let's not forget!! After seeing all three off those teams I would say Hot Springs is the best out of the 3. All starters return from last season. Chemistry is on point. Parkiew is good but lacking at the guard position.

I knew that would get a response from you, lol. You don't want to play Jonesboro now, they've got their rotation down after having to plug in some new starters.

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2016, 09:09:16 pm »
lol yea I had to speak up, but don't look now, the zebras have the 2016 Landers award winner in the starting lineup now.......stay tuned

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2016, 05:03:06 am »
lol yea I had to speak up, but don't look now, the zebras have the 2016 Landers award winner in the starting lineup now.......stay tuned

You'll need all the help.

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2016, 09:53:30 am »
nothing wrong with help!!!

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2016, 02:35:31 pm »
Northside is better than Conways girls?

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2016, 09:41:31 am »
So, Jonesboro beat Cabot by 13, which beat Fayetteville by 2, so...........I wish there was a way for the top teams to play.

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2016, 02:10:12 am »
Hot springs played Fayetteville a couple weeks ago. Took them to four overtimes until they lost 76-70

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2016, 08:05:14 am »
Using that logic, why isn't Cabot ranked

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2016, 02:03:24 pm »
I watched Hot Springs last night in Hope. A game they won 84-77. They are the real deal.

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2016, 03:15:24 pm »
Omg. Get off Hot Springs. I watched Bentonville-Fayetteville last night and both are better than HS. I don't care if HS took Fayetteville into overtime, they aren't a better team. Slow your roll

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2016, 12:33:51 am »
A lot of people don't like to give credit where it's due. And Hot Springs is the real deal. I don't see other teams going out of state and playing teams who are ranked top 50 in the nation. I give Bentonville and Fayetteville they props. But also give the Trojans a little respect though too. They work as hard as Fayetteville and Bentonville do.

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2016, 09:28:43 am »
A lot of people don't like to give credit where it's due. And Hot Springs is the real deal. I don't see other teams going out of state and playing teams who are ranked top 50 in the nation. I give Bentonville and Fayetteville they props. But also give the Trojans a little respect though too. They work as hard as Fayetteville and Bentonville do.

Who has HS beaten? And no, losing to Fayetteville in overtime doesn't count as beating anyone

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2016, 09:52:02 am »
A lot of people don't like to give credit where it's due. And Hot Springs is the real deal. I don't see other teams going out of state and playing teams who are ranked top 50 in the nation. I give Bentonville and Fayetteville they props. But also give the Trojans a little respect though too. They work as hard as Fayetteville and Bentonville do.

Who was top 50?

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2016, 10:26:40 am »
A lot of people don't like to give credit where it's due. And Hot Springs is the real deal. I don't see other teams going out of state and playing teams who are ranked top 50 in the nation. I give Bentonville and Fayetteville they props. But also give the Trojans a little respect though too. They work as hard as Fayetteville and Bentonville do.

Who was top 50?
Let's not get into the "they haven't played anyone game." The Trojans probably have played the toughest nonconference schedule in the state. You should know you're on here all the time. Guess you guys think Jonesboro, Bentonville, and Fayetteville are the only top teams in the state. Would love to see them play on a neutral court.

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2016, 11:32:28 am »
They've played the toughest nonconference schedule but you can't seem to tell us who any of these tough teams are

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2016, 12:27:19 pm »
A lot of people don't like to give credit where it's due. And Hot Springs is the real deal. I don't see other teams going out of state and playing teams who are ranked top 50 in the nation. I give Bentonville and Fayetteville they props. But also give the Trojans a little respect though too. They work as hard as Fayetteville and Bentonville do.

Who was top 50?
Let's not get into the "they haven't played anyone game." The Trojans probably have played the toughest nonconference schedule in the state. You should know you're on here all the time. Guess you guys think Jonesboro, Bentonville, and Fayetteville are the only top teams in the state. Would love to see them play on a neutral court.

My being on here has nothing to do with the question, who was the top 50 team they played? It seems a simple question, do you not know?

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2016, 05:45:56 pm »
They've played the toughest nonconference schedule but you can't seem to tell us who any of these tough teams are

Compared to everyone else in the top 10 they've played a pretty good schedule.  I didn't find any top 50 teams nationally....they did beat a top 50 team in Texas....they are acually #1 in their class according to Maxpreps.  All this is from Maxpreps so it's probably not 100% correct.    They are deserving of a top 5 ranking.  I can't put them above Parkview, Bentonville, Fayetteville and Jonesboro though.  I'd have to see it to believe it.  But their performance against Fayetteville shows that they could play with em. 

Good victories.
Harber --  Not ranked but still a good team.  Currently 3rd place in the 7a west.  10-11
Jacksonville -- Lost the first time beat the the 2nd time.  12-6
Harrison -- Solid 5a school   15-6
Monticello -- In the top 10 and a favorite to win the 4a  16-1
Hudson --  Texas school, Ranked 16th in 4a  20-8
Life Red oak -- Another small Texas school 26-3  Ranked #2 in 3a.
Paris  -- Another smallish Texas school  25-2.  Ranked #1 in 4a.
Pine Bluff -- Rugged team...not a flashy record but a good victory.  11-6

Losses
Fayetteville -- Should be the #1 team in the state....took em 3 or 4 overtimes to lose though.
Jacksonville -- Close loss,  avenged it.
Tupelo --  Lost the game but a pretty good opponent.  #1 in Mississippi Class 6a. 

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« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2016, 06:04:10 pm »
Thanks for the info. I think it's clear that there's no truly incredible win like some posters have been touting. I have no doubt that Hot Springs is a top 5 team, just wondering why some people believe that they're #2 over Bentonville/Jonesboro

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2016, 08:02:30 pm »
A lot of people don't like to give credit where it's due. And Hot Springs is the real deal. I don't see other teams going out of state and playing teams who are ranked top 50 in the nation. I give Bentonville and Fayetteville they props. But also give the Trojans a little respect though too. They work as hard as Fayetteville and Bentonville do.

Who was top 50?
Let's not get into the "they haven't played anyone game." The Trojans probably have played the toughest nonconference schedule in the state. You should know you're on here all the time. Guess you guys think Jonesboro, Bentonville, and Fayetteville are the only top teams in the state. Would love to see them play on a neutral court.

HS has proved they belong in the conversation, but there's no way they played the toughest noncon schedule in the state.  Yes, they played some solid teams, but no nationally recognized teams .  Bentonville without a doubt played the toughest schedule with top-tier teams from OK, MO, TN, WI, CA & NJ, along with ED in AR.  They were 2-2 in one of the top tourneys in the country over the Holidays.  They did lose 5 noncon games, but they were all to very good teams. 

If I recall, HS played Fville a few days after the 7A title game in football, when Fville was not quite full speed.




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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2016, 02:20:01 pm »
Thanks for the info. I think it's clear that there's no truly incredible win like some posters have been touting. I have no doubt that Hot Springs is a top 5 team, just wondering why some people believe that they're #2 over Bentonville/Jonesboro

What's your definition of an incredible win?  I would think beating the #1 in 4a in Arkansas and the #1 team in Texas 4a (which is comparable to Arkansas 5a if you go by school sizes) at there own tournament are pretty good wins.   With the Texas 4a thing...Fayetteville beat the #16 team in class 4a by just 2 points in similar conditions (Wilmer Hutchins in a Dallas tournament)

Who in that top 10 has a bunch of incredible victories?  Fayetteville has the most,  Bentonville has a couple but they also have a bad loss to Southside.  Parkview best victories are LR Mills and Fair.  Jonesboro doesn't really have any. Their best victory is probably Cabot. 

It's not a terrible argument to put High Springs as high as #3.  The only teams who have better resumes are Fayetteville and Bentonville.

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2016, 04:44:56 pm »
Jonesboro is 52-1 in their last 53 in state games, not too shabby. The weather kept them from going to the Cardinal Ritter Classic in St. Louis a couple of weeks ago.

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2016, 06:42:24 pm »

Jonesboro doesn't really have any. Their best victory is probably Cabot. 

Up to this point, Cabot would probably not be considered the best win for Jonesboro. They have 3 losses in conference play, while JHS is 8-0. Cabot has lost to JHS, Marion, and West Memphis.                       

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2016, 07:11:48 pm »

Jonesboro doesn't really have any. Their best victory is probably Cabot. 

Up to this point, Cabot would probably not be considered the best win for Jonesboro. They have 3 losses in conference play, while JHS is 8-0. Cabot has lost to JHS, Marion, and West Memphis.                     

Well, he's saying that because Cabot beat Fayetteville, and if you beat a 7A West team, you must be good.

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2016, 08:34:18 pm »
It has been an informative thread. I prefer the 3a threads though, ha ha.

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« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2016, 10:46:56 am »

Jonesboro doesn't really have any. Their best victory is probably Cabot. 

Up to this point, Cabot would probably not be considered the best win for Jonesboro. They have 3 losses in conference play, while JHS is 8-0. Cabot has lost to JHS, Marion, and West Memphis.                     

Well, he's saying that because Cabot beat Fayetteville, and if you beat a 7A West team, you must be good.

Jonesboro doesn't really have any. Their best victory is probably Cabot. 

Up to this point, Cabot would probably not be considered the best win for Jonesboro. They have 3 losses in conference play, while JHS is 8-0. Cabot has lost to JHS, Marion, and West Memphis.                     

Well, he's saying that because Cabot beat Fayetteville, and if you beat a 7A West team, you must be good.

Not necessarily.  I think Cabot is the best team Jonesboro has beat record wise.  Pine Bluff is the second.  That's going purely on record though.  I'm not sure which one is better.  For all I know there might be a few teams that weren't put onto max preps that could be really good.    I'm usually not that high on 7a west teams as far as basketball goes.  I'm just more impressed with Fayetteville this year.  Their key victories don't lie.  They've beaten 3 out of the top 5 teams if you go by Barclay's list. Got to give credit where it's due. 

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2016, 11:40:44 am »

Jonesboro doesn't really have any. Their best victory is probably Cabot. 

Up to this point, Cabot would probably not be considered the best win for Jonesboro. They have 3 losses in conference play, while JHS is 8-0. Cabot has lost to JHS, Marion, and West Memphis.                     

Well, he's saying that because Cabot beat Fayetteville, and if you beat a 7A West team, you must be good.

Jonesboro doesn't really have any. Their best victory is probably Cabot. 

Up to this point, Cabot would probably not be considered the best win for Jonesboro. They have 3 losses in conference play, while JHS is 8-0. Cabot has lost to JHS, Marion, and West Memphis.                     

Well, he's saying that because Cabot beat Fayetteville, and if you beat a 7A West team, you must be good.

Not necessarily.  I think Cabot is the best team Jonesboro has beat record wise.  Pine Bluff is the second.  That's going purely on record though.  I'm not sure which one is better.  For all I know there might be a few teams that weren't put onto max preps that could be really good.    I'm usually not that high on 7a west teams as far as basketball goes.  I'm just more impressed with Fayetteville this year.  Their key victories don't lie.  They've beaten 3 out of the top 5 teams if you go by Barclay's list. Got to give credit where it's due.

I don't rely on Maxpreps, except for scores and schedules, as far as who a team has beaten, all you can go on is the teams on their schedule. As I've said, the top teams can beat each other on any given night, there's not a dominant team in the state.

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2016, 05:42:18 pm »

Jonesboro doesn't really have any. Their best victory is probably Cabot. 

Up to this point, Cabot would probably not be considered the best win for Jonesboro. They have 3 losses in conference play, while JHS is 8-0. Cabot has lost to JHS, Marion, and West Memphis.                     

Well, he's saying that because Cabot beat Fayetteville, and if you beat a 7A West team, you must be good.

Jonesboro doesn't really have any. Their best victory is probably Cabot. 

Up to this point, Cabot would probably not be considered the best win for Jonesboro. They have 3 losses in conference play, while JHS is 8-0. Cabot has lost to JHS, Marion, and West Memphis.                     

Well, he's saying that because Cabot beat Fayetteville, and if you beat a 7A West team, you must be good.

Not necessarily.  I think Cabot is the best team Jonesboro has beat record wise.  Pine Bluff is the second.  That's going purely on record though.  I'm not sure which one is better.  For all I know there might be a few teams that weren't put onto max preps that could be really good.    I'm usually not that high on 7a west teams as far as basketball goes.  I'm just more impressed with Fayetteville this year.  Their key victories don't lie.  They've beaten 3 out of the top 5 teams if you go by Barclay's list. Got to give credit where it's due.

I don't rely on Maxpreps, except for scores and schedules, as far as who a team has beaten, all you can go on is the teams on their schedule. As I've said, the top teams can beat each other on any given night, there's not a dominant team in the state.

Yeah that's all I use them as well...but their power rankings aren't that bad (it's better then the football one)   The rest is just through watching games when I can.  I think the only team I haven't seen in the top 10 are Monticello, Bryant and Fair.  But either way our opinions differ.   I think It's Fayetteville/Bentonville(with Monk) and then the rest of the state this year.   

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Re: 2016 BASKETBALL RANKINGS JANUARY 17
« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2016, 09:59:34 pm »
Comparing Cabot team preseason vs conference play doesn't say much. Cabot lost a two year starter right after 1st of New Year. The chemistry has not been same since. They beat WM tonight hopefully they have righted ship and will finish strong.

 

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