First confirmed game for next season on Dec 3rd as Arkansas will face defending national champion UConn in the BigEast/SEC invitational.
Im excited ...anybody else getting season tickets..I am
Wow...Uconn? That's pretty impressive
Quote from: cav2012 on May 19, 2011, 04:51:24 pm
Im excited ...anybody else getting season tickets..I am
Survived last year, I'll definitely be there this year.
Anderson says we'll get to find out what we've got. Nothing like jumping into the fire. Talk about the "Luck of the Draw" :P Love Mike's attitude.
For the first time in ten years or so I am Stoked about Razorback basketball...
Per recruiting analyst Jerry Meyer, Mike Anderson gets his first commitment. Dederick Lee out of Clarksville has committed to Arkansas. 4 star player, class of 2013.
Dederick committed to Arkansas? Already?? Wow... thats super early... But i'm super excited about it if it is true. Ive seen that kid play a lot over the years and he is an absolute baller! We need to keep an eye on his brothers too! They may be a little undersized but they are very talented. And Mugsy Boughs was their size as a full grown NBA player hahaha That still blows my mind. They will grow tho. Arkansas just needs to round up all the Lee's. That family just keeps spitting out players!
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on May 20, 2011, 10:49:18 am
For the first time in ten years or so I am Stoked about Razorback basketball...
Where's your buddy at? ::) I don't see his call name yet on this thread. Oh, he maybe still posting under the Pel for 1 more year thread, LOL!
Quote from: InYoGrill on May 22, 2011, 08:55:44 pm
Quote from: Coach Venny Slocombe on May 20, 2011, 10:49:18 am
For the first time in ten years or so I am Stoked about Razorback basketball...
Where's your buddy at? ::) I don't see his call name yet on this thread. Oh, he maybe still posting under the Pel for 1 more year thread, LOL!
You mean you don't know? Really? He is currently MA's top assistant at Arkansas...Mike was quoted as saying that nobody in America has his knowledge...lol...
UA basketball will lose one scholarship next season due to poor APR rating: http://www.4029tv.com/r/28010809/detail.html
Pending approval from the commish, SEC will do away with basketball divisions and seed the tournament 1-12.
Quote from: Romeo on June 01, 2011, 03:35:30 pm
Pending approval from the commish, SEC will do away with basketball divisions and seed the tournament 1-12.
good
the top 4 teams should get the buys
Glenn Bryant granted release from scholarship.
Quote from: Romeo on June 04, 2011, 07:03:20 pm
Glenn Bryant granted release from scholarship.
He was one of the few left that I hoped would work well in MA's system. Good luck to the young man.
It's been my understanding that there would two released. GB and one more. GB was pretty much decided weeks ago. This next one might surprise a few.
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if anyone on the team decided to transfer. None of them are used to or ready for the level of work and conditioning Anderson expects.
... and defensive responsibilities demanded of them.
Jeff Peterson officially released from scholarship.
Quote from: Romeo on June 10, 2011, 06:12:39 pm
Jeff Peterson officially released from scholarship.
Not surprising he never seemed comfortable in Pel system (he wasn't the only one) so I doubt he would ever get use to MA's. Losing Bryant hurts more!
Quote from: Romeo on June 10, 2011, 06:12:39 pm
Jeff Peterson officially released from scholarship.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BSecIe7Qt9M/TBQpYBGbn1I/AAAAAAAAAHA/F-ttRaw-UEY/s1600/GeoffPeterson.jpg)
Balls.
I had been putting my money on Nobles because I had heard he wasn't having a good attitude towards the conditioning drills, but I guess he's going to tough it out. I also don't see Marvell Waithe staying, but nothing concrete has been heard about him either.
Weed them out if we have to. MA's dynasty starts by building his program with his coaching mentality and attitude.
The ones who truly want to stay and buy into the system will be the ones who drive us back to the top.
Quote from: AirWarren on June 12, 2011, 06:18:41 pm
Weed them out if we have to. MA's dynasty starts by building his program with his coaching mentality and attitude.
The ones who truly want to stay and buy into the system will be the ones who drive us back to the top.
Jeff Peterson is a very good guy. Sad to see him good. He isn't leaving for negative reasons... He just is ready to move on in his life. Very smart. Will make bank in the real world.
I wish him the best. Good to see kids open a new chapter in their lives that will lead to prosperity. Good luck to him.
uConn will slobberknock UofA...
but you know what, I'm still gonna do everything in my power to get to this game.
I said uofa wouldn't get any of my money with failfry, but they are gonna get tons of it with MA.
Quote from: SingleWingGuru on June 12, 2011, 10:20:04 pmI said uofa wouldn't get any of my money with failfry, but they are gonna get tons of it with MA.
Yay, $20!!!!!!
Word is RC has asked for his release. AGAIN
Michigan to play in BWA on January 21
http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=6100&ATCLID=205214706
If I'm not mistaken this will be the first Big Ten team to play in the Bud
we've played Illinois but those were in NLR
Quote from: Indiana Jones on August 01, 2011, 05:42:44 pm
Michigan to play in BWA on January 21
http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=6100&ATCLID=205214706
If I'm not mistaken this will be the first Big Ten team to play in the Bud
we've played Illinois but those were in NLR
I believe you are correct. The last time we played Michigan they had ineligible players like Tractor Traylor and Maceo Baston so technically we've won the last two meetings with them.
MA definitely scheduling some quality opponents.
Mike Anderson is already making a splash. Glad to have him, but I hope the players can sow now and reap a huge harvest come conference play! Mike Knows what he's doing so call those Hogs LOUD & PROUD IN NWA!!
I'm pretty sure they've set October 14 as the date for Midnight Madness.
More confirmed non-conference games:
11/11: South Carolina Upstate
11/30: Mississippi Valley State
Mike Anderson picks up a commitment today for LR Hall forward Bobby Portis 6-8, 205. Listed as a four star player on scout.
Quote from: Romeo on August 06, 2011, 06:34:15 pm
Mike Anderson picks up a commitment today for LR Hall forward Bobby Portis 6-8, 205. Listed as a four star player on scout.
Extremely long and runs the floor pretty well. He'll fit the system.
Non-conference schedule set for basketball: http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=6100&SPID=2421&SPSID=30748
the Kentucky and Vandy games will be Super Tuesday ESPN primetime telecasts
http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=6100&ATCLID=205243762
Full schedule released: http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=6100&SPID=2421&SPSID=30748
Key conference games:
Conf opener: Jan 7 vs. Mississippi State
Jan 17 at Kentucky
Pelphrey returns: Feb 18 vs. Florida
6 national TV games
not bad at all
the Michigan games has CBS written all over it
I doubt the game at Oklahoma will be national but who knows
Oklahoma game will probably be on the razorback network.
So ready for the Anderson era to begin!
This will be a fun season. My friends and I made the trip to every home game but one last season(plus TAMU game in Dallas) so it will be fun doing it again but in a jam packed arena this season.
Can't wait.
Quote from: Smithian on August 18, 2011, 11:32:34 pm
This will be a fun season. My friends and I made the trip to every home game but one last season(plus TAMU game in Dallas) so it will be fun doing it again but in a jam packed arena this season.
Can't wait.
Football.
Obviously will be at football again this season.
And if anyone steals food out of my hands like last season, we may have issues. I have a tendency to get aggressive when my food is threatened.
Quote from: Smithian on June 13, 2011, 01:29:36 am
Quote from: SingleWingGuru on June 12, 2011, 10:20:04 pmI said uofa wouldn't get any of my money with failfry, but they are gonna get tons of it with MA.
Yay, $20!!!!!!
False.
Today I bought private season tickets. $6,000... gonna be lots of wining and dining. WOOT.
No formal midnight madness this year, instead primetime at the palace will be held: http://www.arkansassports360.com/26651/arkansas-will-not-hold-midnight-madness-but-has-event-planned-for-fans
Archie Goodwin just announced on twitter that he's thinking about making his decision in a week or two rather than next spring. Not sure if its a good thing or bad thing. Arkansas had a in-home visit last Friday. Memphis visited him today. Kentucky is visiting him tomorrow.
Twitter from Archie Goodwin tonight indicates he may announce a decision tomorrow.
Watch for a FedEX package.
ESPN recruiting insider reporting that Goodwin has committed to Kentucky.
Its official: Goodwin just tweeted that he's a wildcat.
And central Arkansas officially has been lost as guaranteed Razorback recruiting territory if it wasn't lost already. I feel better about getting big recruits out of Missouri/Texas than I do central Arkansas.
Quote from: B.G. on September 20, 2011, 10:04:56 pm
Watch for a FedEX package.
lol
And UPS, DHL and whatever other carriers there are
It is kind of funny that a basketball player would announce he is going to Kentucky and be quoted in the newspaper that "it was a business decision".
Quote from: rammer on September 21, 2011, 02:26:19 pm
It is kind of funny that a basketball player would announce he is going to Kentucky and be quoted in the newspaper that "it was a business decision".
With coach cal, it probably was.
Sanchez had back surgery around a week ago. He will be out for an undetermined amount of time.
That kid can't never get right. Every year its an injury. Anderson hopes to have him back by Nov 1st.
Primetime at the palace official press release: http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205314161&DB_OEM_ID=6100
times/TV set for non-conference
http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=6100&SPID=2421&SPSID=30748
lame that some of the games aren't on TV
as you can see CBS will carry the Michigan game
Well Arkansas strikes out again for another recruit. Prince Ibeh committed to Texas tonight. Still no commitments for the 2012 class.
Primetime at the palace tonight at 7:00pm. 10,000 people showing up would be an accomplishment.
BJ Young is on a different level
Quote from: Smithian on October 14, 2011, 09:51:40 pm
BJ Young is on a different level
That's what I hear. Heard Kikko dunked as well? Anyone got video of the festivities?
Quote from: DerekOxford on October 15, 2011, 12:10:16 am
Quote from: Smithian on October 14, 2011, 09:51:40 pm
BJ Young is on a different level
That's what I hear. Heard Kikko dunked as well? Anyone got video of the festivities?
He "dunked" it for sure. I uploaded a video.
Pretty nasty dunk by BJ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQS2fybncC0&NR=1
I'm on the Arkansas Razorback basketball commercial again this year.
Nice! I feel special. I should get a cookie for that!
MA picks up first commitment for 2012 class. Michael Qualls 6-4 small forward out of Shreveport. Highlights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA4Miyg1SeU&feature=related
Red White game Sunday at 3:00pm.
Anthlon Bell, 6-3 guard out of Memphis just tweeted that he's a razorback.
Holding hope JaCorey Williams announces for us later, but I'm nervous Anthony Grant has him impressed...
JaCorey Williams is officially a razorback.
He supposedly told 2 players that he bonded with on his visit on Monday he was Fayetteville bound. I'm glad for the reaffirmation.
Good night for Razorback basketball.
Let's go find some size from the JUCO ranks and maybe Aaron Ross and call it a wrap.
Better chill on Ross.
Aaron Ross may no longer be an option. Ross has opened up his recruitment. Rumor is MA was not happy about his recent weight gain, plus their not fully sure if he'll be qualified.
We need Jarnell Stokes to call the hogs.
Then let's go find another 3* diamond in the rough!
We got this.
Great news for hog basketball and the MA era!
Real hawg ball is back.
I'm pumped for basketball season. In a few years 40 minutes of heck will be taking over this conference again.
First official game on Friday against USC-Upstate. Hopefully the crowd is better than it was last night.
Razorbacks kick off the Mike Anderson era with a 83-63 win over USC Upstate.
Quote from: Romeo on November 11, 2011, 09:25:07 pm
Razorbacks kick off the Mike Anderson era with a 83-63 win over USC Upstate.
Nolan spoke to the team before the game. Marshawn Powell called him the "God" of Arkansas Basketball. Real recognize real.
Another great crowd tonight ::)
Little Rock crowd will be better friday night.
Marshawn Powell out for tonight's game and possibly for the season with a knee injury rumored to be a torn ACL.
got beat by another CUSA team last night.... yep --- this year is like last years. Just losing in an up tempo way.... LOL
If you don't like them or want to support them then don't. You seem to b**** no matter what. Outside of Kentucky, sec basketball is not sec football. CUSU and other small conferences have good basketball. Like I dais, don't watch. We need positive fans.
Great crowd last night and a very enjoyable game. This team is going to be an exciting year with some lumps here and there. But we are on the right path.
I really don't care much about Hog basketball.... but I do like to keep up with the day dreamers.
Tough.. but the game did show a spark for future reference. Second half comeback was the first time a game had that old "feel" to it as they rallied from way back.
But the hosses are in short supply. We're going to have to temper ourselves and not look for a complete Year One turnaround.
But that little taste for 5-10 minutes last night is what people are starving for...
BG I think you are completely right .... people are hungry for the past. Problem is this --- getting the hosses to do it + most everybody plays up tempo basketball now and 40 minuets of heck is not feared by many teams anymore.
Quote from: fastdrop on November 19, 2011, 07:38:02 am
got beat by another CUSA team last night.... yep --- this year is like last years. Just losing in an up tempo way.... LOL
Its not very easy when you only have 9 scholarship players and your best player just got a serious knee injury before the game.
Quote from: Romeo on November 19, 2011, 03:29:45 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on November 19, 2011, 07:38:02 am
got beat by another CUSA team last night.... yep --- this year is like last years. Just losing in an up tempo way.... LOL
Its not very easy when you only have 9 scholarship players and your best player just got a serious knee injury before the game.
That is true... if not this excuse it will be another one. I do see the Hogs getting better though.... just not to where they once were.
It wont be overnight, but the Hogs are on the right path. Powell's injury is a killer. The other guys just have to step it up. These guys are better than any Pelphrey team. Go Hogs !
Quote from: Romeo on October 18, 2011, 10:40:23 am
MA picks up first commitment for 2012 class. Michael Qualls 6-4 small forward out of Shreveport. Highlights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA4Miyg1SeU&feature=related
Dare I say this kid has Sydney Moncreif UPS ! Explosive !
Quote from: Hoghead on November 21, 2011, 01:42:06 am
It wont be overnight, but the Hogs are on the right path. Powell's injury is a killer. The other guys just have to step it up. These guys are better than any Pelphrey team. Go Hogs !
Dat true!
We got rid of the bad coaches finally, now if we could get rid of the crap, whiny fans.
Did all you sissies jump off the train?
I don't give a flip if Marshawn Powell is hurt or not. This is still Arkansas Razorback basketball. It isn't fun to look down the road and see the competition, but the guys will continue to focus on the next game and they'll rough some people up.
This will still be a fun season. I have a feeling this group is going to get physical and nasty pretty fast out of a sense of self preservation. Marshawn Powell is a great guy and I wish he was still on the court, but we'll survive without him. We don't have enough time to punt on this season.
Utah State ---- ;D
If you think Tennessee is a horrible basketball team and you squeak by UTAH STATE in the last couple minuets of the game.... you have a rude awakening coming.
Everybody plays Nolan's 40 minuets of heck now ..... and all you guys have as a coach is a retread.
Quote from: fastdrop on November 23, 2011, 01:18:24 pm
Utah State ---- ;D
If you think Tennessee is a horrible basketball team and you squeak by UTAH STATE in the last couple minuets of the game.... you have a rude awakening coming.
Everybody plays Nolan's 40 minuets of heck now ..... and all you guys have as a coach is a retread.
Look, I know you're proud of Memphis State College basketball, but come on now.
We have a reason to dream.
Many Elite Eights, Six Final Fours, Two National Championship Appearances, and a National Championship have a way of doing that to you.
How does Memphis State compare to that? I'll even allow you to use vacated wins.
Quote from: Smithian on November 23, 2011, 01:26:58 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on November 23, 2011, 01:18:24 pm
Utah State ---- ;D
If you think Tennessee is a horrible basketball team and you squeak by UTAH STATE in the last couple minuets of the game.... you have a rude awakening coming.
Everybody plays Nolan's 40 minuets of heck now ..... and all you guys have as a coach is a retread.
Look, I know you're proud of Memphis State College basketball, but come on now.
We have a reason to dream.
Many Elite Eights, Six Final Fours, Two National Championship Appearances, and a National Championship have a way of doing that to you.
How does Memphis State compare to that? I'll even allow you to use vacated wins.
Old Arguments young Smithian.
We are not talking about the Tigers nor are we talking about the glory days of Nolan and Eddie.
We are talking about the here and now...... Razorback 2011 basketball. I am not too impressed so far and as far as dreaming that the Nolan days are right around the corner just because you made his assistant a rich man.... I guess it is your right to dream.
Has a Mike Anderson coached team or Memphis State made an Elite Eight more recently?
Dream on my friend...dream on.
just to be fair .... I did figure that the Hog football team would lose 3 to 4 games this year. They could still lose 3 though --- ;)
Quote from: fastdrop on November 23, 2011, 01:18:24 pm
Utah State ---- ;D
If you think Tennessee is a horrible basketball team and you squeak by UTAH STATE in the last couple minuets of the game.... you have a rude awakening coming.
Everybody plays Nolan's 40 minuets of heck now ..... and all you guys have as a coach is a retread.
Actually the hogs played Utah VALLEY State, the Wolverines. They have a player in the NBA by the name of Ronnie Price. ASU played them a handful of years ago when I was in school.
If it was Utah State, then you would be talking about a program that has been to the NCAAs the last few years and ALWAYS has a good team. I'm pretty sure they'd give Arkansas and Memphis all they want. They are a VERY good basketball program.
If you're going to argue people, at least get your facts straight.
Quote from: fastdrop on November 23, 2011, 01:18:24 pm
Utah State ---- ;D
If you think Tennessee is a horrible basketball team and you squeak by UTAH STATE in the last couple minuets of the game.... you have a rude awakening coming.
Everybody plays Nolan's 40 minuets of heck now ..... and all you guys have as a coach is a retread.
Utah Valley not Utah State and that same team beat Houston by 13 points on the road.
Quote from: dc24 on November 23, 2011, 06:56:30 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on November 23, 2011, 01:18:24 pm
Utah State ---- ;D
If you think Tennessee is a horrible basketball team and you squeak by UTAH STATE in the last couple minuets of the game.... you have a rude awakening coming.
Everybody plays Nolan's 40 minuets of heck now ..... and all you guys have as a coach is a retread.
Actually the hogs played Utah VALLEY State, the Wolverines. They have a player in the NBA by the name of Ronnie Price. ASU played them a handful of years ago when I was in school.
If it was Utah State, then you would be talking about a program that has been to the NCAAs the last few years and ALWAYS has a good team. I'm pretty sure they'd give Arkansas and Memphis all they want. They are a VERY good basketball program.
If you're going to argue people, at least get your facts straight.
I can argue with people anytime I want ---- facts are a minor inconvenience. Especially when talking about any basketball team out of Utah.
Quote from: fastdrop on November 23, 2011, 07:50:50 pm
Quote from: dc24 on November 23, 2011, 06:56:30 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on November 23, 2011, 01:18:24 pm
Utah State ---- ;D
If you think Tennessee is a horrible basketball team and you squeak by UTAH STATE in the last couple minuets of the game.... you have a rude awakening coming.
Everybody plays Nolan's 40 minuets of heck now ..... and all you guys have as a coach is a retread.
Actually the hogs played Utah VALLEY State, the Wolverines. They have a player in the NBA by the name of Ronnie Price. ASU played them a handful of years ago when I was in school.
If it was Utah State, then you would be talking about a program that has been to the NCAAs the last few years and ALWAYS has a good team. I'm pretty sure they'd give Arkansas and Memphis all they want. They are a VERY good basketball program.
If you're going to argue people, at least get your facts straight.
I can argue with people anytime I want ---- facts are a minor inconvenience. Especially when talking about any basketball team out of Utah.
Yeah, that BYU team that went 32-5 was pretty bad last year.
The one with the fornicator?
Quote from: B.G. on November 23, 2011, 08:13:24 pm
The one with the fornicator?
Now I am really lost.... ;)
Link (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Sports/2011/0303/BYU-basketball-player-suspended-sports-world-shocked-and-impressed)
sampson and delilah
Quote from: B.G. on November 23, 2011, 08:13:24 pm
The one with the fornicator?
Him and his girlfriend escaped from being stoned when he agreed to leave the team last year at BYU. They were the only ones on campus who admitted to fornicating. The other students at BYU don't fornicate at all thru 4 years of college.
Is it just me or has the lack of interest in Arkansas Basketball fallen further even with Pelphrey no longer coaching?
Quote from: Romeo on November 30, 2011, 07:39:11 pm
Is it just me or has the lack of interest in Arkansas Basketball fallen further even with Pelphrey no longer coaching?
Once Mike proves that he can win with this bunch of players and football season is officially over, the fans will come back.
This team has a lot of upside, and has made a ton of improvement from last season. Even without Powell, I still think they can win close to 20 games.
Quote from: DerekOxford on November 30, 2011, 07:43:53 pm
Quote from: Romeo on November 30, 2011, 07:39:11 pm
Is it just me or has the lack of interest in Arkansas Basketball fallen further even with Pelphrey no longer coaching?
Once Mike proves that he can win with this bunch of players and football season is officially over, the fans will come back.
This team has a lot of upside, and has made a ton of improvement from last season. Even without Powell, I still think they can win close to 20 games.
You are going to get some marquee players on the Hill to get fans to want to come...... When times were good ---- it was not just Sutton or Nolan it was the players.... that brought in the fans.
down only 7 at UConn I like how we're playing
I'm surprised someone even discussed the game today. Its pitiful. Were making mistakes but were continuing to play hard against UConn. We have to shoot better in order to have a chance.
Am I the only one who thinks these announcers didn't realize we were down by 7? They acted like we were losing by 40 before they looked at the scoreboard right before the half ended.
We got a PLAYER in bj young
The announcers were giving mad props to the Arkansas freshmen, particularly Young. The team, as a whole, played with fire. IMO, Abrams may be the sleeper...
I remember when the Hogs actually won games against good teams.
This Young group will get better and win in the SEC. They're not a national power. But I see a upside in the youth of this team. Recruit some shooters and a BIG MAN and they will prosper. Losing to UCONN today isn't the end of the world.
We need a few more BJ Youngs lol! The kid is a baller! Good kid too, I've had the pleasure to meet him.. The future is bright for this team. Good things take time. Devonta Abron was a definite difference maker. Tell me the last time a Hog had 16 rebounds in a game.... We outrebounded UConn on the O-glass 27-4. Tell me the last time that happened... Abron will be a good player, and hopefully this game will give him a confidence boost. I was impressed with the way our young team handled themselves today.
Quote from: MrNash13 on December 04, 2011, 02:15:31 am
We need a few more BJ Youngs lol! The kid is a baller! Good kid too, I've had the pleasure to meet him.. The future is bright for this team. Good things take time. Devonta Abron was a definite difference maker. Tell me the last time a Hog had 16 rebounds in a game.... We outrebounded UConn on the O-glass 27-4. Tell me the last time that happened... Abron will be a good player, and hopefully this game will give him a confidence boost. I was impressed with the way our young team handled themselves today.
BJ Young will be ALL-SEC 1st team before its all said and done for. This squad will be a joy to watch and grow with !!
Having ZERO inside presence is very very frustrating.
Anytime you shoot 34% from the field and only make 7 of 27 3 point attempts your going to lose every time. It's going to take some time to build the program back to respectability. It's already the lowest interest on basketball I've seen on fearless Friday at this point.
If Wade and Scott keep starting i will not be watching any more hog games they suck.
I'll start by saying today's game was extremely hard to watch... UGLY. OU is a solid team.
But, guys, let's stop dogging the Hogs already. Indiana in the first two years of Tom Creen's tenure were awful, and only won 3 Big Ten games just last season. But look at them now, taking down a national powerhouse. Good things take time, and can't help but think that Hog Ball could possibly be like IU now next season if we get Jarnell Stokes. Plus, our young guys would be a year older and more comfortable in the new system and Marshawn back.
Quote from: MrNash13 on December 10, 2011, 07:30:58 pm
I'll start by saying today's game was extremely hard to watch... UGLY. OU is a solid team.
But, guys, let's stop dogging the Hogs already. Indiana in the first two years of Tom Creen's tenure were awful, and only won 3 Big Ten games just last season. But look at them now, taking down a national powerhouse. Good things take time, and can't help but think that Hog Ball could possibly be like IU now next season if we get Jarnell Stokes. Plus, our young guys would be a year older and more comfortable in the new system and Marshawn back.
This year will be hard to follow and watch. I can see glimmers of hope from our FR especially BJ but all the other varsity players other than Marshawn are lower level players so that means we will lose a lot this year but the future will be good cause MA is the man for the job and even when we lose I have more respect for the team now with coach MA leading them. Patience this year Hog fans.
I warned you guys before you got MA.
Frank Broyles is a happy man ---- Arkansas is back to being a football school.
Who cares what that old fart thinks. He is a has been.
This team will mature and be just fine.
Quote from: fastdrop on December 03, 2011, 10:10:47 pm
I remember when the Hogs actually won games against good teams.
I remember when Tiger High wasn't a daily NCAA violation magnet.
Quote from: Uncle Ivan on December 11, 2011, 03:07:42 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on December 03, 2011, 10:10:47 pm
I remember when the Hogs actually won games against good teams.
I remember when Tiger High wasn't a daily NCAA violation magnet.
you have not been walking this earth long enough to remember that
I can't even get interested in the Razorbacks. The only way to win championships with that style of play, fun to watch or not, is to have the best players. Getting those players may or may not happen in the next few years. I like the uptempo game but you have to be able to play a half court grind it out game sometimes and I don't see them ever getting to that point. They play hard but it is just not complete basketball to me. I think they will win some games in the next few years but championships will escape their grasp.
Quote from: Romeo on December 10, 2011, 06:13:43 pm
Anytime you shoot 34% from the field and only make 7 of 27 3 point attempts your going to lose every time. It's going to take some time to build the program back to respectability. It's already the lowest interest on basketball I've seen on fearless Friday at this point.
I'm amazed at the amount of open looks that we get. Considering we have no inside scoring threat, that is unusual. I can only surmise that this group of kids moves the ball better and are less selfish than some in the past. The shooting % bothers me greatly. Freshman or not, a shooter is a shooter. We need some guys who can shoot the ball. I believe Mike will get them. We just need to give him time. Other than a great fresman class, he pretty much came into a bare cupboard.
This team already looks better losing then Pelfry's team did winning... Wins are going to come very soon!!
I agree with PB I already see more to be optimistic about in this team than I was with Pel! These kids already know more about playing defense than any of Pels squads. The shooting will come (remember we lost our leading scorer) but there is more than enough already on this team to lay a good foundation and build upon that. Big men and shooters next few classes and things will be rockin in Bud Walton again!
Quote from: AW on December 11, 2011, 11:17:00 am
Who cares what that old fart thinks. He is a has been.
This team will mature and be just fine.
That "old fart" made it possible for your Warren boys to play on the big stage. Respect your past. imo
Quote from: Big Fan on December 13, 2011, 08:29:12 pm
Quote from: AW on December 11, 2011, 11:17:00 am
Who cares what that old fart thinks. He is a has been.
This team will mature and be just fine.
That "old fart" made it possible for your Warren boys to play on the big stage. Respect your past. imo
I know nothing of that time period and he had zero to do with it. Him finally having his grubby hands off the program has allowed even more growth. Could have sent 4 Warren boys there if he wouldn't have kept a coach there he knew would not outshine him that ran a boring run left, run right, run up the middle style.
But oh well. This is a bball thread. No need to get into that here.
Quote from: Big Fan on December 13, 2011, 08:29:12 pm
Quote from: AW on December 11, 2011, 11:17:00 am
Who cares what that old fart thinks. He is a has been.
This team will mature and be just fine.
That "old fart" made it possible for your Warren boys to play on the big stage. Respect your past. imo
Wrong. Its the other way around. The Warren boys that went to Tennessee and what happened to them made it possible for Arkansas to have our players.
Quote from: Romeo on December 14, 2011, 01:27:13 am
Quote from: Big Fan on December 13, 2011, 08:29:12 pm
Quote from: AW on December 11, 2011, 11:17:00 am
Who cares what that old fart thinks. He is a has been.
This team will mature and be just fine.
That "old fart" made it possible for your Warren boys to play on the big stage. Respect your past. imo
Wrong. Its the other way around. The Warren boys that went to Tennessee and what happened to them made it possible for Arkansas to have our players.
My point is that the "old fart" put Arkansas on the big stage. Anyone with a knowledge of UA athletics can see that.
The Tennessee part I agree with.
Mike Anderson must really love Arkansas to leave that Missouri team with seven seniors and a top point guard to fall into this situation where fans are turning their backs on the program.
Quote from: Romeo on December 19, 2011, 03:07:00 pm
Mike Anderson must really love Arkansas to leave that Missouri team with seven seniors and a top point guard to fall into this situation where fans are turning their backs on the program.
The program has been through so much turmoil since the glory years. We have a long way to go to turn this thing around. If Mike loves this program like he says he will do it but the people have to be patient.
Go hogs! Congrats on the win tonight!
Anderson left that good team with all of those seniors so he could put Arkansas his first love back on the map! He remembers the good ol days with Nolan and how everyone in the state was fired up about Razorback basketball. I know we will be fine by next year but I'm not giving up on this year yet. If we can somehow find a prescense down low we will be dangerous come late Feb or March.
I am putting my butt in a seat with my son on Thursday night to watch them play LA Tech. I went to all the games as a student but that was before Bud Walton and have always cheered for the Hogs no matter how bad the season has been.
Hogs beat La tech 77-63
Go hogs.
Quote from: AW on December 22, 2011, 08:52:20 pm
Hogs beat La tech 77-63
Go hogs.
But didn't the kid from Jacksonville have a good game?
Louisiana Tech
Name FG 3Pt FT PF Pts
Raheem Appleby 10-21 2-4 1-2 3 23
That he did. We could use a seasoned player like that.
Quote from: bleudog on December 22, 2011, 09:18:54 pm
Quote from: AW on December 22, 2011, 08:52:20 pm
Hogs beat La tech 77-63
Go hogs.
But didn't the kid from Jacksonville have a good game?
Louisiana Tech
Name FG 3Pt FT PF Pts
Raheem Appleby 10-21 2-4 1-2 3 23
I watched him play in high school and he is still able to run the floor like he did at Jacksonville. Still thin but gets the ball in the hole and the Hogs just kind of ignored him last night but I also noticed he could not keep up the pace. He got winded a couple times early in the first half.
Quote from: AW on December 22, 2011, 09:30:16 pm
That he did. We could use a seasoned player like that.
He's a freshman.
In recruiting news forward Jarnell Stokes from Memphis orally committed to Tennessee. OUCH! I really thought we would land him.
Was surprised he would pick a team on probation but also think with his cousin being there already played into his decision.
Quote from: zebradynasty on December 23, 2011, 09:51:34 am
In recruiting news forward Jarnell Stokes from Memphis orally committed to Tennessee. OUCH! I really thought we would land him.
Three months ago, I would say he was leaning toward coming here but things change quickly. He took a lot more trips to Knoxville the past several weeks and was mentioning them alot on his twitter page. Plus his older brother goes to school there. Disappointing for Anderson considering that he was recruiting him since the eighth grade.
Quote from: bleudog on December 22, 2011, 09:18:54 pm
Quote from: AW on December 22, 2011, 08:52:20 pm
Hogs beat La tech 77-63
Go hogs.
But didn't the kid from Jacksonville have a good game?
Louisiana Tech
Name FG 3Pt FT PF Pts
Raheem Appleby 10-21 2-4 1-2 3 23
Played AAU basketball with and against him.. very talented. Deceptively quick, and very long and athletic. Good to see him have a good game, but glad UA won ;D
Congrats on the win hogs.
Whoever said Ricky Scott was a sorry player needs to recognize. The kid has been playing good basketball.
Watched Hogs beat Savanah St. How old is Marvel Waithe ???
Waithe is the oldest player on the team he's 24.
I like Mike Anderson but his teams Never shoot very well, it's going to drive Hog fans nuts...
Arkansas teams in general haven't shot well since the early to mid 90's.
Quote from: Billyo62 on January 04, 2012, 06:25:17 am
I like Mike Anderson but his teams Never shoot very well, it's going to drive Hog fans nuts...
More possessions however, will lead to a lower percentage in shooting.
However like AW said, we haven't a high percentage shooting team since 1994 team.
Quote from: RD™ on January 04, 2012, 07:21:15 am
Quote from: Billyo62 on January 04, 2012, 06:25:17 am
I like Mike Anderson but his teams Never shoot very well, it's going to drive Hog fans nuts...
More possessions however, will lead to a lower percentage in shooting.
However like AW said, we haven't a high percentage shooting team since 1994 team.
This is true, but at times , trust me you will want to pull your hair out...
Mike will turn Arkansas into a team that NOBODY wants to play..
I can live with not shooting it well while winning but these stupid turnovers have got to stop for this team to be successful. Shooting 30% with 5 turnoves can beat teams but shooting 35% with 20 turnovers isn't going to be very successful....
Quote from: pantherblue on January 04, 2012, 10:31:04 am
I can live with not shooting it well while winning but these stupid turnovers have got to stop for this team to be successful. Shooting 30% with 5 turnoves can beat teams but shooting 35% with 20 turnovers isn't going to be very successful....
CMA Teams will have some games where they will turn it over non stop...I have seen 100+ CMA games trust me it will be no different here.. You just have to live with it...
Quote from: Billyo62 on January 04, 2012, 08:00:41 am
Quote from: RD™ on January 04, 2012, 07:21:15 am
Quote from: Billyo62 on January 04, 2012, 06:25:17 am
I like Mike Anderson but his teams Never shoot very well, it's going to drive Hog fans nuts...
More possessions however, will lead to a lower percentage in shooting.
However like AW said, we haven't a high percentage shooting team since 1994 team.
This is true, but at times , trust me you will want to pull your hair out...
Mike will turn Arkansas into a team that NOBODY wants to play..
While I was watching the Tigers beat the dog poo out of Tennessee tonight along with 18,339 other folks at the fed ex forum I thought of the old days when the Hogs and the Tigers used to play ----- talk about some loud rowdy games --- yes they were. It is time for Memphis and the Hogs to start playing each other again in both football and basketball.
Quote from: fastdrop on January 04, 2012, 10:04:48 pm
Quote from: Billyo62 on January 04, 2012, 08:00:41 am
Quote from: RD™ on January 04, 2012, 07:21:15 am
Quote from: Billyo62 on January 04, 2012, 06:25:17 am
I like Mike Anderson but his teams Never shoot very well, it's going to drive Hog fans nuts...
More possessions however, will lead to a lower percentage in shooting.
However like AW said, we haven't a high percentage shooting team since 1994 team.
This is true, but at times , trust me you will want to pull your hair out...
Mike will turn Arkansas into a team that NOBODY wants to play..
While I was watching the Tigers beat the dog poo out of Tennessee tonight along with 18,339 other folks at the fed ex forum I thought of the old days when the Hogs and the Tigers used to play ----- talk about some loud rowdy games --- yes they were. It is time for Memphis and the Hogs to start playing each other again in both football and basketball.
Won't happen in basketball as long as Pastner is coach. Smart move also.
Quote from: fastdrop on January 04, 2012, 10:04:48 pm
Quote from: Billyo62 on January 04, 2012, 08:00:41 am
Quote from: RD™ on January 04, 2012, 07:21:15 am
Quote from: Billyo62 on January 04, 2012, 06:25:17 am
I like Mike Anderson but his teams Never shoot very well, it's going to drive Hog fans nuts...
More possessions however, will lead to a lower percentage in shooting.
However like AW said, we haven't a high percentage shooting team since 1994 team.
This is true, but at times , trust me you will want to pull your hair out...
Mike will turn Arkansas into a team that NOBODY wants to play..
While I was watching the Tigers beat the dog poo out of Tennessee tonight along with 18,339 other folks at the fed ex forum I thought of the old days when the Hogs and the Tigers used to play ----- talk about some loud rowdy games --- yes they were. It is time for Memphis and the Hogs to start playing each other again in both football and basketball.
Frank is gone so it MIGHT happen again. We went 1-2 against Memphis in Football during our mid 90's contract.
Quote from: Hoghead on January 06, 2012, 01:57:36 am
Quote from: fastdrop on January 04, 2012, 10:04:48 pm
Quote from: Billyo62 on January 04, 2012, 08:00:41 am
Quote from: RD™ on January 04, 2012, 07:21:15 am
Quote from: Billyo62 on January 04, 2012, 06:25:17 am
I like Mike Anderson but his teams Never shoot very well, it's going to drive Hog fans nuts...
More possessions however, will lead to a lower percentage in shooting.
However like AW said, we haven't a high percentage shooting team since 1994 team.
This is true, but at times , trust me you will want to pull your hair out...
Mike will turn Arkansas into a team that NOBODY wants to play..
While I was watching the Tigers beat the dog poo out of Tennessee tonight along with 18,339 other folks at the fed ex forum I thought of the old days when the Hogs and the Tigers used to play ----- talk about some loud rowdy games --- yes they were. It is time for Memphis and the Hogs to start playing each other again in both football and basketball.
Frank is gone so it MIGHT happen again. We went 1-2 against Memphis in Football during our mid 90's contract.
They have played basketball 21 times ----- 10-11 in favor of the hogs.
Would love to see us play Memphis in basketball but not interested in playing them in football anymore. I remember growing up seeing Penny Hardaway vs Todd Day man those were the good ole days!!!
Quote from: MONSTER on January 06, 2012, 09:13:28 am
Would love to see us play Memphis in basketball but not interested in playing them in football anymore. I remember growing up seeing Penny Hardaway vs Todd Day man those were the good ole days!!!
well, thats the problem --- LOL
Why would Memphis give the Hogs access to a Memphis basketball game in the big ol Fed ex forum ...... when the Hogs are not interested in giving memphis some exposure on the grid iron. That was why the series was cancelled in the first place.
has to be a 2 way street
also ... I bet NWA could fill up BWA when Memphis comes to town.
ESPN documentary on 40 minutes of heck will air Feb 11. Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/embed/6mirNpK_Z3o
This ESPN special is going to be huge for our program.
Huge SEC opening game tonight against #15 Mississippi State.
What channel on FSN?
The game will be on CSS (comcast sports), channel 458 on dish, channel 723 on directv, and also online on espn3.com.
Wps! Crowd looks great and we are plating great D so far! Looking like old times!
Great looking crowd!! Man can these kids keep this pace up for 40 minutes?? Looking great so far!!!
BJ Young is UNBELIEVABLE good as a FR.
98-88 final. Big win for us.
Fuse is lit.
all out start to finish effort, how long has it been . loving this team!!!
Hiring Mike best $2mil UA has spent. It has been amazing how much more these kids know and undrstand how to play basketball! Things 2 coaches haven't been able to teach.
BJ Young...if he keeps up he may be the most offensively gifted guard in hog history! I can't think of anyone in our past that he plays like. He certainly is among the quickest we ever had
Looked like old times out there! Loved it! MA and his boys are gonna be fun to watch this year and the upcoming years!
Its still a long way to go in the conference season. Were not the most talented team in the SEC. We lack a solid big man and we only have nine scholarship players. But if you watched the game tonight you'll know that we won't lose games because of lack of effort.
Hopefully the good shooting tonight will continue. That's been one of our main reasons of why we can't finish out games.
Biggest thing we accomplished was confidence. Beating a top 20 team was just the bonus. Lot of youth and no inside presence will be a challenge. But as stated earlier, the fuse has been lit for the dynamite to explode.
Be afraid, be very afraid.......this team will play HOG WILD all night ! They have nothing to lose. Anderson took the leash off of them tonight. They're young & they are hungry !Great Hog Football leads us into a pretty exciting Hog Basketball season. It's good to be back !!!!!! WPS !!!!
Haven't seen MA's recruits play yet... I hope he brings some good ones in...
Great win for the Hogs! I think this team can win at least 10 SEC games this year. We are starting to figure out who we are and what we do best.
Quote from: Hoghead on January 08, 2012, 05:47:27 am
Be afraid, be very afraid.......this team will play HOG WILD all night ! They have nothing to lose. Anderson took the leash off of them tonight. They're young & they are hungry !Great Hog Football leads us into a pretty exciting Hog Basketball season. It's good to be back !!!!!! WPS !!!!
Exactly, and that's why the Hogs may look great one night and Horrible the next night.. We need to be patient...
Patience is gonna go a long way with this team. However last night was awesome!!!!!
Quote from: pantherblue on January 08, 2012, 07:37:11 am
Haven't seen MA's recruits play yet... I hope he brings some good ones in...
Talent wise, there's no BJ Young's coming in next year, but all three recruits are good role players that fit MA's system. All three have particular strengths and weaknesses.
Michael Qualls is a 6-4 guard/forward from Shreveport who is a high explosive player that can attack the rim. Very fast and good rebounder but doesn't handle the ball well and isn't a good outside shooter. He's also not a very good free throw shooter. At last check he was shooting around 60%. Think of Glenn Bryant. Here's some highlights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA4Miyg1SeU
Anthlon Bell is 6-3 out of Memphis who is an excellent three point shooter. However his ball handling skills are questionable which is why he didn't have any top level schools going after him. He's a big plus for us because he brings that Memphis pipeline back. MA wants to bring in at least one Memphis player every year.
JaCorey Williams is 6-8 out of Birmingham who is a bit mixture of both Qualls and Bell. He's got a good outside shot and can move without the ball. He can also rebound well but is a bit undersized for his position. He has the most potential out of the three to be an impact player. Here's some highlights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rySb49DFOpY
Apparently now were still in contact with Aaron Ross, who's enrolled in prep school in Minnesota. He's reportedly getting better and is going to qualify for next season.
Renardo Sidney = LOL
Anyone see him back pedaling down the court pointing at the student section after he hit his first 3? Even some reporters on Twitter pointed out we had a running convo with him.
In my years in the student section I've never seen a player who didn't just ignore it comes game time. Many, many guys get angry before the game and react, but during the game? Sidney is in a class of his own.
It makes me angry someone so talented yet so lazy gets to play basketball at an SEC school and get his school paid for as he does it.
SEC Basketball = Kentucky
Quote from: fastdrop on January 08, 2012, 01:32:20 pm
SEC Basketball = Kentucky
Florida and Arkansas have 3 NCAA championships between them.
How bout Memphis?
8)
Quote from: Smithian on January 08, 2012, 01:34:54 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on January 08, 2012, 01:32:20 pm
SEC Basketball = Kentucky
Florida and Arkansas have 3 NCAA championships between them.
How bout Memphis?
8)
It is good to be Arkansas ---- this year. Tenn. is horrible and so are most all the basketball teams of the SEC. Arkansas should make the big dance by default.
Kentucky is the only contender ..... you had better root for them if you want to add another SEC national championship to that list.
Memphis has none -----
Is the Ole Miss game on TV tonight?
KATV in central arkansas is carrying the game tonight....
Thanks
UGH. Youthful woes.
Loved watching the game last night... These young players are going to grow up over the season and it wouldn't surprise me if they win the SEC tournament and make a little run in the NCAA by season's end...
Oh, so you're a Mike Anderson fan, not an Arkansas Razorback basketball fan?
Nope. Was very skeptical about MA coming back. It's the players that are making the difference in being able to watch and not watch. I have already said these players would have still been here if Pelfry had stayed and still been as fun to watch. My son is in his 3rd year at UA so I have watched all sports plenty in person the last few years. Basketball talent wise has been the most disappointing till this year. Hope MA continues to bring more talent to the hill.
Quote from: pantherblue on January 13, 2012, 03:58:27 am
Nope. Was very skeptical about MA coming back. It's the players that are making the difference in being able to watch and not watch. I have already said these players would have still been here if Pelfry had stayed and still been as fun to watch. My son is in his 3rd year at UA so I have watched all sports plenty in person the last few years. Basketball talent wise has been the most disappointing till this year. Hope MA continues to bring more talent to the hill.
Players??? Making the difference??? Cmon man! It's all about MA and his system. Dude will win where ver he is. He knows how to push the players to get the max out of their talent or lack of. Conditioning, discipline, and HIS WAY are the difference. When he gets TALENT in, we will rise back to the top. BJ Young is already one of them.
Quote from: InYoGrill on January 13, 2012, 07:54:56 am
Quote from: pantherblue on January 13, 2012, 03:58:27 am
Nope. Was very skeptical about MA coming back. It's the players that are making the difference in being able to watch and not watch. I have already said these players would have still been here if Pelfry had stayed and still been as fun to watch. My son is in his 3rd year at UA so I have watched all sports plenty in person the last few years. Basketball talent wise has been the most disappointing till this year. Hope MA continues to bring more talent to the hill.
Players??? Making the difference??? Cmon man! It's all about MA and his system. Dude will win where ver he is. He knows how to push the players to get the max out of their talent or lack of. Conditioning, discipline, and HIS WAY are the difference. When he gets TALENT in, we will rise back to the top. BJ Young is already one of them.
He is, just like Madden and Mickelson... Fun guys to watch play the game already and will only get better....
I'm not sold on H Mickleson just yet. I hope he turns out fine but I don't think he will ever be a big time player at UA maybe a solid role player.
Former St Johns guard Nurideen Lindsey will transfer to Arkansas next season. 6-3 out of Philadelphia averaged 11.8 points a game before this season before leaving.
woopie
anyone have a score update can't find game on tv
30-29 Ark.
ATH
69-60 final. Hogs win but it was an ugly game shooting the ball.
Bj young continues to amaze.
Mickelson needs to freaking dunk thr ball inside. The glass ain't working. Despite him missing one dunk haha.
Oh well. A win is a win.
Quote from: pantherblue on January 13, 2012, 03:58:27 am
Nope. Was very skeptical about MA coming back. It's the players that are making the difference in being able to watch and not watch. I have already said these players would have still been here if Pelfry had stayed and still been as fun to watch. My son is in his 3rd year at UA so I have watched all sports plenty in person the last few years. Basketball talent wise has been the most disappointing till this year. Hope MA continues to bring more talent to the hill.
You've watched the Sun rise and set and know as much about it as you do sports !
Sun rise / sun set = this year / last year
Go Hogs! Find a way and mop the floor with the slime Calipari I really detest that jerk
Were going to get creamed.
The difference between us and UK is in the paint! We need a big man bad!
Does Kentucky always get away with muggings?
Quote from: Indiana Jones on January 17, 2012, 08:27:16 pm
Does Kentucky always get away with muggings?
Cry Baby
Quote from: MONSTER on January 17, 2012, 08:24:20 pm
The difference between us and UK is in the paint! We need a big man bad!
Need more than one. The SEC other than Kentucky is all about the same. The Hogs will be all right.
Sanchez is a good kid but he has absolutely no business playing division I basketball for any team.
Quote from: Romeo on January 17, 2012, 10:15:01 pm
Sanchez is a good kid but he has absolutely no business playing division I basketball for any team.
Agreed. That hair makes me mad and it looks like he spends more time messing with it. Heard a rumor that he was going to donate to locks of love. If so he needs to go ahead and do it and play some basketball.
It is locks of love. He's a great guy but definitely struggles at this level.
Here is the deal.... Our leading rebounders were guards. There is the problem. We lack a DECENT big man and a 1. Luckily we have 2 ones coming in this semester by way of transfer so that takes care of that. But Mike needs to clean house under the rim. NONE OF THEM CAN EVEN GET ABOVE THE RIM!!! they are all trash
Quote from: B.G. on January 17, 2012, 10:40:38 pm
It is locks of love. He's a great guy but definitely struggles at this level.
Awesome thing to do no doubt. But do it tomarrow. Get under the rim and get the dang basketball.
Sorry Michigan but we just teased you ;)
First half was phenomenal Arkansas basketball. Still need to keep working tough under the rim but hunter played tough.
This one will look good on our resume. Keep playing tough. Go hogs!
It's a good win today over Michigan. Arkansas scored enough off of it's defense to hang on and win. Hog's came out the shoot hitting shots ! We all know they are not a good shooting team. But hard work and defense paid off today.
They have to rebound better and hit their freethrows ! B.J. Young is a keeper. That guy plays tough. Hunter Mickleson is going to get better. He has good basketball fundementals. The blueprint is there for Hog basketball to be very good.
Yea great win for the Hogs! The 2nd half had me worried we would blow it but wehung on to win. BJ did his thing and Scott had a good game also. Hunter is not the best but he definitly is the best we have on campus. May as well move him and BJ into the starting 5 and give them more minutes
They are both freshman but both will become great Hogs!!
Got to win at home tonight. Need to lock up ALL home games for certain!
Low scoring first half and we arent looking so hot.
Nice win by the hogs.
Crowd looked nice, BJ Young continues to impress, and our hardwood hogs are picking up some steam!
Next 3 out of 4, will tell the tale of this season.
If we can go 2-1 (L at Bama, W at home vs Vandy, W at LSU) - will say a lot and we will be 17-6 and looking good into the final stretch.
However I will continue to say, everything we do, is just icing on the cake.
I'll buy 2-1 , but we beat bama Saturday(if we shoot decent) and then lose to Vandy. We are pretty close to making the run. At large bid isn't so far away now! :)
Crowd was a little over 11,000. Good crowd for mid week, 8pm tip off.
Look for a sold out and rockin BWA against vandy.
Abrom is the laziest dude I've ever seen in a D1 uniform
Can Sanchez not graduate early and leave? I can just see him pulling a Broderick Green and working out for the NBA draft. Oh for the love of all things sports!!!
We look like a bunch of jr woodchucks today!
A foul call would be nice
Bama is hacking in every trip
Freaking Sanchez....
Oh for the love of Snachez, LOL! Has he not been at the UA as long as another favorite Tejada- Chicken Chokers?? Shave the LOVE and just attempt dunk every shot cause nothing else has a chance of going in.
Bama suks and we gave them a gimme home win.
Blew a game we could've won today! We gotta figure out how to win on the road soon if we wanna play in March. The refs didn't help us anykind of way either....
Down the stretch when we needed him Sanchez played like..... Well, Sanchez. lol
He didn't lose the game for us but sure helped. Jogging down the floor with his back turned and turning around just in time for a guard to go over him for a layup is just disgusting basketball. 40 minutes of what kind of defense is that??
Quote from: pantherblue on January 28, 2012, 02:15:38 pm
Can Sanchez not graduate early and leave? I can just see him pulling a Broderick Green and working out for the NBA draft. Oh for the love of all things sports!!!
A young Hog team struggled some today on the road at Bama. I'm not mad at them. BUT.....If Brodrick Green is the all time leader in one yard runs in the HISTORY of UA football. Sanchez holds the UA basketball record for most missed shots from point blank range ! The guy also got a flat footed rebound today as well. You could slide toilet paper under his feet when he jumps !
For only having eight scholarship players on the court, we played better than I thought yesterday. Watching this team gets me more and more excited about the future. As soon as the deadwood leaves....cough...Sanchez.... and we bring in MA's recruits, were going to be a solid basketball team for years to come.
solid my rear end..........
you do know that you are playing basketball in the SEC and the SEC west just might be the worst major basketball conference in the WORLD.
I knew once the Hogs started picking up a few wins against the BOZO's of the west..... The dreamers would come back out of the woods.
Beat a few decent teams and get back to me.
MOZZU
LOL ---- I always figured RSVL and his cronies would do something like this for the Hogs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vMfqosdDbY&feature=plcp&context=C338a8abUDOEgsToPDskIyW_VrNrCdaHVzAE8PTyNy
Hog head and Mac ought to come out of the closet and do a hog one.
Quote from: Romeo on January 29, 2012, 05:59:16 am
For only having eight scholarship players on the court, we played better than I thought yesterday. Watching this team gets me more and more excited about the future. As soon as the deadwood leaves....cough...Sanchez.... and we bring in MA's recruits, were going to be a solid basketball team for years to come.
True Dat!
Quote from: Hoghead on January 28, 2012, 10:02:27 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on January 28, 2012, 02:15:38 pm
Can Sanchez not graduate early and leave? I can just see him pulling a Broderick Green and working out for the NBA draft. Oh for the love of all things sports!!!
A young Hog team struggled some today on the road at Bama. I'm not mad at them. BUT.....If Brodrick Green is the all time leader in one yard runs in the HISTORY of UA football. Sanchez holds the UA basketball record for most missed shots from point blank range ! The guy also got a flat footed rebound today as well. You could slide toilet paper under his feet when he jumps !
HH, you got that all right. Sanchez is a hard working young man that has battled through many injuries in his career. From what I hear just a good role model of a young man BUT dude plays
white if you know what I mean. You go to a gym and you see white guys that have bball skiils and then you got the Sanchez's which happen to be most white dudes, LOL! At least his motor runs 110% and he tries. I can live with that. Just PLEASE don't give him the ball when we need pts the most.
How about scrapping the 2-3/match-up/whatever that is - zone defense! Stay in the up tempo man to man, build a big lead(mich.) and then hang on with the crappy zone(if the boys get tired). If they can run for 40, then run. I'd rather lose being up tempo, than lose in that lazy zone; half court junk. MHO.
Maybe we should just hit every shot.
Or block every shot in that man 2 man.
Quote from: fastdrop on January 29, 2012, 07:06:52 am
solid my rear end..........
you do know that you are playing basketball in the SEC and the SEC west just might be the worst major basketball conference in the WORLD.
I knew once the Hogs started picking up a few wins against the BOZO's of the west..... The dreamers would come back out of the woods.
Beat a few decent teams and get back to me.
I wonder how Memphis would do in the SEC. Too bad we'll never find out.
Quote from: Romeo on January 29, 2012, 05:08:18 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on January 29, 2012, 07:06:52 am
solid my rear end..........
you do know that you are playing basketball in the SEC and the SEC west just might be the worst major basketball conference in the WORLD.
I knew once the Hogs started picking up a few wins against the BOZO's of the west..... The dreamers would come back out of the woods.
Beat a few decent teams and get back to me.
I wonder how Memphis would do in the SEC. Too bad we'll never find out.
Yeah, too bad.
Quote from: Romeo on January 29, 2012, 05:08:18 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on January 29, 2012, 07:06:52 am
solid my rear end..........
you do know that you are playing basketball in the SEC and the SEC west just might
be the worst major basketball conference in the WORLD.
I knew once the Hogs started picking up a few wins against the BOZO's of the west..... The dreamers would come back out of the woods.
Beat a few decent teams and get back to me.
I wonder how Memphis would do in the SEC. Too bad we'll never find out.
Yeah really. Must be tough beating up conference USA.
Only thing I see Memphis doing good on tv is The first 48.
Go to a tiger board if you're gonna just be a jerk and talk crap.
Quote from: TTofgreenwood on January 29, 2012, 05:39:08 pm
Quote from: Romeo on January 29, 2012, 05:08:18 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on January 29, 2012, 07:06:52 am
solid my rear end..........
you do know that you are playing basketball in the SEC and the SEC west just might be the worst major basketball conference in the WORLD.
I knew once the Hogs started picking up a few wins against the BOZO's of the west..... The dreamers would come back out of the woods.
Beat a few decent teams and get back to me.
I wonder how Memphis would do in the SEC. Too bad we'll never find out.
Yeah, too bad.
We would kick butt and take names.... SEC=Kentucky=CAL
Quote from: AW on January 29, 2012, 07:34:05 pm
Quote from: Romeo on January 29, 2012, 05:08:18 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on January 29, 2012, 07:06:52 am
solid my rear end..........
you do know that you are playing basketball in the SEC and the SEC west just might
be the worst major basketball conference in the WORLD.
I knew once the Hogs started picking up a few wins against the BOZO's of the west..... The dreamers would come back out of the woods.
Beat a few decent teams and get back to me.
I wonder how Memphis would do in the SEC. Too bad we'll never find out.
Yeah really. Must be tough beating up conference USA.
Only thing I see Memphis doing good on tv is The first 48.
Go to a tiger board if you're gonna just be a jerk and talk crap.
Conference USA is much better than the SEC west. NO doubt about it.
Quote from: fastdrop on January 29, 2012, 10:12:05 pm
Quote from: TTofgreenwood on January 29, 2012, 05:39:08 pm
Quote from: Romeo on January 29, 2012, 05:08:18 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on January 29, 2012, 07:06:52 am
solid my rear end..........
you do know that you are playing basketball in the SEC and the SEC west just might be the worst major basketball conference in the WORLD.
I knew once the Hogs started picking up a few wins against the BOZO's of the west..... The dreamers would come back out of the woods.
Beat a few decent teams and get back to me.
I wonder how Memphis would do in the SEC. Too bad we'll never find out.
Yeah, too bad.
We would kick butt and take names.... SEC=Kentucky=CAL
Memphis has been a SEC stepchild all of it's life. The powers that be will keep them in the SEC stepchild spot forever !
Anyone going up tomorrow? I'll be at Grub's, around 6, signing autographs before the game and drinking LITE! Let's meet and greet! :) Go Hogs!
Tune in or set your DVR's folks. Time to relive some awesome memories and a SWEET SWEET National Championship. MA will get us back!
http://www.todaysthv.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=193285
Big game tonight against Vanderbilt on Super Tuesday. Still without Waithe and only playing eight scholarship players. Fatigue could play a factor tonight.
Quote from: Romeo on January 31, 2012, 01:52:54 pm
Big game tonight against Vanderbilt on Super Tuesday. Still without Waithe and only playing eight scholarship players. Fatigue could play a factor tonight.
Coach A says B Mitch will get in tonight. 5 more fouls at least. ;D
Nice win tonight by the hogs.
Mickelson needs to attack like he did tonight.
Get a couple more wins and we will be dancing.
Very impressive to have that short of a bench but still keep up with that tempo and out hustle Vanderbilt throughout the game.
Quote from: Romeo on January 31, 2012, 11:00:20 pm
Very impressive to have that short of a bench but still keep up with that tempo and out hustle Vanderbilt throughout the game.
MA has this team conditioned no doubt! When we get a bench that is equal to what we got, we are going to be an awesome team. He has this program going in the right direction.
Quote from: AW on January 31, 2012, 11:28:45 pm
Quote from: Romeo on January 31, 2012, 11:00:20 pm
Very impressive to have that short of a bench but still keep up with that tempo and out hustle Vanderbilt throughout the game.
MA has this team conditioned no doubt! When we get a bench that is equal to what we got, we are going to be an awesome team. He has this program going in the right direction.
don't SPYM just yet me friend.
Starting to creep into the bracket projections. Need to stay with that mo and win on the road Sat.
Quote from: B.G. on February 01, 2012, 09:32:01 pm
Starting to creep into the bracket projections. Need to stay with that mo and when on the road Sat.
when u win on the road.... =)
Freudian in it's slippage. Won't say "when we win" until we've "won one".
In the SEC it will happen Just not against Cal and Kentucky.... ;D
Never heard of them.
Two years from now, that loss to UK will be officially listed as a win*.
yea boi
My dream ---- Cal goes down to the Tigers. SEC SEC SEC oops CUSA CUSA CUSA
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Quote from: B.G. on February 01, 2012, 09:54:11 pm
Never heard of them.
Sounds bland.
The minor leagues are calling your name junior
National championship under our belt as opposed to your tigers. That minor league?
Quote from: B.G. on February 01, 2012, 10:00:44 pm
Two years from now, that loss to UK will be officially listed as a win*.
Now that was funny!
Quote from: AW on February 01, 2012, 10:40:25 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on February 01, 2012, 09:58:46 pm
Quote from: AW on February 01, 2012, 09:55:17 pm
Quote from: B.G. on February 01, 2012, 09:54:11 pm
Never heard of them.
Sounds bland.
The minor leagues are calling your name junior
National championship under our belt as opposed to your tigers. That minor league?
Memphis State College basketball doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence historically as the Arkansas Razorbacks.
Don't tell the University of The First 48 that smithian.
Quote from: Smithian on February 02, 2012, 01:35:23 pm
Quote from: AW on February 01, 2012, 10:40:25 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on February 01, 2012, 09:58:46 pm
Quote from: AW on February 01, 2012, 09:55:17 pm
Quote from: B.G. on February 01, 2012, 09:54:11 pm
Never heard of them.
Sounds bland.
The minor leagues are calling your name junior
National championship under our belt as opposed to your tigers. That minor league?
Memphis State College basketball doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence historically as the Arkansas Razorbacks.
Historically .... LOL
I was one of the most excited Hog fans in the world when the Razorbacks won the Championship until Nolan opened his mouth....then it was like wut just happened.
anywho --- come east and I will take you to a real basketball game. I will even donate the xtra large Royal Blue University of Memphis Sweatshirt that you will cherish for the rest of your life.
I can't stand Abron. He has had 4 of his shots blocked out of pour lazyness. He is LAZY!!! I'd rather have Sanchez in there going hard every play than to watch Abron stand there and do nothing. He is trash. Get rid of him.
Well, Arkansas can't win on the road. That'll hurt them come selection Sunday
Guards let us down today. Closer.
Having a healthy Marshawn Powell would have made a big difference in road games.
I watched 2 games today ---
LSU - Hog's game was an awful painful game to watch.
The other one --- pretty dang good game.
Quote from: fastdrop on February 02, 2012, 07:29:33 pm
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Quote from: AW on February 01, 2012, 09:55:17 pm
Quote from: B.G. on February 01, 2012, 09:54:11 pm
Never heard of them.
Sounds bland.
The minor leagues are calling your name junior
National championship under our belt as opposed to your tigers. That minor league?
Memphis State College basketball doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence historically as the Arkansas Razorbacks.
Historically .... LOL
I was one of the most excited Hog fans in the world when the Razorbacks won the Championship until Nolan opened his mouth....then it was like wut just happened.
anywho --- come east and I will take you to a real basketball game. I will even donate the xtra large Royal Blue University of Memphis Sweatshirt that you will cherish for the rest of your life.
No Tiger High Gear for me !
Quote from: Hoghead on February 05, 2012, 02:37:31 am
Quote from: fastdrop on February 02, 2012, 07:29:33 pm
Quote from: Smithian on February 02, 2012, 01:35:23 pm
Quote from: AW on February 01, 2012, 10:40:25 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on February 01, 2012, 09:58:46 pm
Quote from: AW on February 01, 2012, 09:55:17 pm
Quote from: B.G. on February 01, 2012, 09:54:11 pm
Never heard of them.
Sounds bland.
The minor leagues are calling your name junior
National championship under our belt as opposed to your tigers. That minor league?
Memphis State College basketball doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence historically as the Arkansas Razorbacks.
Historically .... LOL
I was one of the most excited Hog fans in the world when the Razorbacks won the Championship until Nolan opened his mouth....then it was like wut just happened.
anywho --- come east and I will take you to a real basketball game. I will even donate the xtra large Royal Blue University of Memphis Sweatshirt that you will cherish for the rest of your life.
No Tiger High Gear for me !
add colt .45 and you would wear ku klux klan gear down Beale Street.
Quote from: fastdrop on February 05, 2012, 07:59:49 am
Quote from: Hoghead on February 05, 2012, 02:37:31 am
Quote from: fastdrop on February 02, 2012, 07:29:33 pm
Quote from: Smithian on February 02, 2012, 01:35:23 pm
Quote from: AW on February 01, 2012, 10:40:25 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on February 01, 2012, 09:58:46 pm
Quote from: AW on February 01, 2012, 09:55:17 pm
Quote from: B.G. on February 01, 2012, 09:54:11 pm
Never heard of them.
Sounds bland.
The minor leagues are calling your name junior
National championship under our belt as opposed to your tigers. That minor league?
Memphis State College basketball doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence historically as the Arkansas Razorbacks.
Historically .... LOL
I was one of the most excited Hog fans in the world when the Razorbacks won the Championship until Nolan opened his mouth....then it was like wut just happened.
anywho --- come east and I will take you to a real basketball game. I will even donate the xtra large Royal Blue University of Memphis Sweatshirt that you will cherish for the rest of your life.
No Tiger High Gear for me !
add colt .45 and you would wear ku klux klan gear down Beale Street.
Nope. But if the Klan were playing Memphis, I'd pull for the Klan !
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Quote from: Smithian on February 02, 2012, 01:35:23 pm
Quote from: AW on February 01, 2012, 10:40:25 pm
Quote from: fastdrop on February 01, 2012, 09:58:46 pm
Quote from: AW on February 01, 2012, 09:55:17 pm
Quote from: B.G. on February 01, 2012, 09:54:11 pm
Never heard of them.
Sounds bland.
The minor leagues are calling your name junior
National championship under our belt as opposed to your tigers. That minor league?
Memphis State College basketball doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence historically as the Arkansas Razorbacks.
Historically .... LOL
I was one of the most excited Hog fans in the world when the Razorbacks won the Championship until Nolan opened his mouth....then it was like wut just happened.
anywho --- come east and I will take you to a real basketball game. I will even donate the xtra large Royal Blue University of Memphis Sweatshirt that you will cherish for the rest of your life.
No Tiger High Gear for me !
add colt .45 and you would wear ku klux klan gear down Beale Street.
Nope. But if the Klan were playing Memphis, I'd pull for the Klan !
lol.... ok
Quote from: krik6 on February 04, 2012, 02:23:11 pm
I can't stand Abron. He has had 4 of his shots blocked out of pour lazyness. He is LAZY!!! I'd rather have Sanchez in there going hard every play than to watch Abron stand there and do nothing. He is trash. Get rid of him.
Not sure if serious.
Quote from: Smithian on February 06, 2012, 07:53:20 pm
Quote from: krik6 on February 04, 2012, 02:23:11 pm
I can't stand Abron. He has had 4 of his shots blocked out of pour lazyness. He is LAZY!!! I'd rather have Sanchez in there going hard every play than to watch Abron stand there and do nothing. He is trash. Get rid of him.
Not sure if serious.
Abron plays very hard. He just doesn't look as frenetic as Sanchez. Maybe that's why dude doesn't think he hustles. I just watched a DVR of the Vanderbilt game again last night and Abron hustled his A55 off against bigger guys.
You don't play for Mike anderson if you don't hustle.
It'll be extremely disappointing if we lose tonight against Georgia.
Quote from: Romeo on February 08, 2012, 06:16:37 am
It'll be extremely disappointing if we lose tonight against Georgia.
Me too. We REALLY REALLY need this win on the road.
We suk on the road cause we aint got no fired up leadership on that team. We not losing on the road cause of MA. Someone needs to step up and light a fire during tight games.
Quote from: Smithian on February 06, 2012, 07:53:20 pm
Quote from: krik6 on February 04, 2012, 02:23:11 pm
I can't stand Abron. He has had 4 of his shots blocked out of pour lazyness. He is LAZY!!! I'd rather have Sanchez in there going hard every play than to watch Abron stand there and do nothing. He is trash. Get rid of him.
Not sure if serious.
Im very serious. He plays lazy. Sure he runs up and down the court, thats great, but he is super lazy on the defensive end. He doesnt rotate at all. He watches. He doesnt ever jump. He literally gets multiple rebounds a game standing flat footed. How many 10-15 foot jump shots has he gotten blocked this year? I can think of at least 4 and he is 6'8. He gets them blocked because he doesnt get off the ground and he shoots low. Why do you think he lost his starting spot and gets so few minutes now? Cause Mike is noticing his unwillingness to even give 100%.
He doesnt fit Mikes System, he needs to lose weight. I have a feeling that he will either be forced into a diet and work out this off season or he will "transfer"
Wow. Arkansas is getting thrashed
PATHETIC, ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC!!!
Tonight was one of the worst games effort wise that I have seen an Arkansas team play. Its hard to comprehend how we let a team that is last place in the conference to beat us that bad. Just an ugly, disgusting performance.
::) nothing else needs to be said
Disgusting. Working tonight and I just used up wasted DVR space.
Quote from: AW on February 08, 2012, 09:38:08 pm
Disgusting. Working tonight and I just used up wasted DVR space.
Same here. NIT bound I'm afraid.
Duke/UNC is entertaining though.
I think we might have hit a wall. Not that is comes as a shocker with such youth and a numbers crunch.
Seriously, this team has over achieved and done better than what was expected of them in MA's first season. Just look at the roster and it is no wonder we even have the record we do at this point. After one season with MA getting a load of players, I think we will win several of those struggling road games we play in the SEC. We really need someone to step up and show some leadership, even if it is a FR.
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Quote from: krik6 on February 04, 2012, 02:23:11 pm
I can't stand Abron. He has had 4 of his shots blocked out of pour lazyness. He is LAZY!!! I'd rather have Sanchez in there going hard every play than to watch Abron stand there and do nothing. He is trash. Get rid of him.
Not sure if serious.
Im very serious. He plays lazy. Sure he runs up and down the court, thats great, but he is super lazy on the defensive end. He doesnt rotate at all. He watches. He doesnt ever jump. He literally gets multiple rebounds a game standing flat footed. How many 10-15 foot jump shots has he gotten blocked this year? I can think of at least 4 and he is 6'8. He gets them blocked because he doesnt get off the ground and he shoots low. Why do you think he lost his starting spot and gets so few minutes now? Cause Mike is noticing his unwillingness to even give 100%.
He doesnt fit Mikes System, he needs to lose weight. I have a feeling that he will either be forced into a diet and work out this off season or he will "transfer"
I agree with the statement that he may not fit the system, but we'll have to disagree on the lazy thing.
Quote from: mack on February 09, 2012, 09:35:51 am
Quote from: krik6 on February 08, 2012, 03:08:44 pm
Quote from: Smithian on February 06, 2012, 07:53:20 pm
Quote from: krik6 on February 04, 2012, 02:23:11 pm
I can't stand Abron. He has had 4 of his shots blocked out of pour lazyness. He is LAZY!!! I'd rather have Sanchez in there going hard every play than to watch Abron stand there and do nothing. He is trash. Get rid of him.
Not sure if serious.
Im very serious. He plays lazy. Sure he runs up and down the court, thats great, but he is super lazy on the defensive end. He doesnt rotate at all. He watches. He doesnt ever jump. He literally gets multiple rebounds a game standing flat footed. How many 10-15 foot jump shots has he gotten blocked this year? I can think of at least 4 and he is 6'8. He gets them blocked because he doesnt get off the ground and he shoots low. Why do you think he lost his starting spot and gets so few minutes now? Cause Mike is noticing his unwillingness to even give 100%.
He doesnt fit Mikes System, he needs to lose weight. I have a feeling that he will either be forced into a diet and work out this off season or he will "transfer"
I agree with the statement that he may not fit the system, but we'll have to disagree on the lazy thing.
Agree to disagree lol
Ive just noticed it on defense a lot. He never stops the ball and allows a lot of straight line drives just out of unwillingness to move. He cant jump either lol I just dont like his game. Ive heard he is a good kid tho.
Quote from: B.G. on February 08, 2012, 10:40:04 pm
I think we might have hit a wall. Not that is comes as a shocker with such youth and a numbers crunch.
No kidding - Hit a wall would be a stretch though. This team hit an ice burg and sunk to the bottom of the ocean.
Youth is a lousy excuse for college basketball teams --- I am getting bored with the same excuse coming out of Mempho.
ESPN 40 minutes of heck documentary tonight at 8:00pm on ESPNU.
I really enjoyed the documentary! They focused on the Championship days the most which they should have I just wished they would've talked more about Todd Day's team a little bit more leading up to 94. I went down memory lane with those good days when Arkansas mattered nationally. Hope its not long until we return to glory.
Quote from: MONSTER on February 12, 2012, 09:41:32 am
I really enjoyed the documentary! They focused on the Championship days the most which they should have I just wished they would've talked more about Todd Day's team a little bit more leading up to 94. I went down memory lane with those good days when Arkansas mattered nationally. Hope its not long until we return to glory.
If Todd Day's team had won a championship, they would have. There's no reason the '91 team shouldn't have won the title, or at least had a re-match with UNLV. Nolan was quoted as saying that was the most talented team he ever had ('91), but the '94 team just wanted it more and played with a chip on their shoulder like he coached.
The skeleton is there for these guys to look like those teams. Just got to keep fighting. MA will get us there again.
Derek, I agree with you that the 90-91 Arkansas was probably Nolan's most talented. When you think of who was on that roster(4 1st round draft picks + one of the best 6th men we ever had), that team should've won a championship. As a matter of fact, had we not blown a 12 point halftime lead to Kansas in the '91 Southeast Regional Final in Charlotte, I firmly believe we would've beaten North Carolina in the national semifinals and would've beaten Duke in the national championship game. I also agree that the '94 team wanted that championship more.
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Quote from: mack on February 09, 2012, 09:35:51 am
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Quote from: Smithian on February 06, 2012, 07:53:20 pm
Quote from: krik6 on February 04, 2012, 02:23:11 pm
I can't stand Abron. He has had 4 of his shots blocked out of pour lazyness. He is LAZY!!! I'd rather have Sanchez in there going hard every play than to watch Abron stand there and do nothing. He is trash. Get rid of him.
Not sure if serious.
Im very serious. He plays lazy. Sure he runs up and down the court, thats great, but he is super lazy on the defensive end. He doesnt rotate at all. He watches. He doesnt ever jump. He literally gets multiple rebounds a game standing flat footed. How many 10-15 foot jump shots has he gotten blocked this year? I can think of at least 4 and he is 6'8. He gets them blocked because he doesnt get off the ground and he shoots low. Why do you think he lost his starting spot and gets so few minutes now? Cause Mike is noticing his unwillingness to even give 100%.
He doesnt fit Mikes System, he needs to lose weight. I have a feeling that he will either be forced into a diet and work out this off season or he will "transfer"
I agree with the statement that he may not fit the system, but we'll have to disagree on the lazy thing.
Agree to disagree lol
Ive just noticed it on defense a lot. He never stops the ball and allows a lot of straight line drives just out of unwillingness to move. He cant jump either lol I just dont like his game. Ive heard he is a good kid tho.
Ha,,, I'd be disappointed if anyone agreed with me. Even I know I'm wrong most of the time. Heck, I don't always believe what I say. I think he'll end up being a decent role player [definitely not a starter] as his career goes on and MA gets more of his type players. He will come in and bang around on the other team's bigs, waste 4-5 fouls, get 3-4 points, 2-3 rebs a game.
Quote from: Bondfan4ever on February 12, 2012, 07:43:37 pm
Derek, I agree with you that the 90-91 Arkansas was probably Nolan's most talented. When you think of who was on that roster(4 1st round draft picks + one of the best 6th men we ever had), that team should've won a championship. As a matter of fact, had we not blown a 12 point halftime lead to Kansas in the '91 Southeast Regional Final in Charlotte, I firmly believe we would've beaten North Carolina in the national semifinals and would've beaten Duke in the national championship game. I also agree that the '94 team wanted that championship more.
Who was on that North Carolina team? Was it the Montross/Lynch group?
Props to QB Brandon playing very good minutes against SC. We need someone to add a spark and throw a body around. What is the status of goldy locks Sanchez? Will he miss many games??
Hope he misses the next ge so we get a road win
Derek, that was the Montross/Lynch/King Rice/Pat Sullivan group. They held off Temple in the East Regional Final to go to the Final Four. I believe Temple was a 10 seed and had Mark Macon. I remember John Cheney's press conference afterwards, in which he was very emotional and wanted to see Macon go to a Final Four.
That sucking sound was us on the road again!!!
has there ever been a team that went the entire season without losing at home and without winning on the road? Maybe we are trying to make history?
I dont know if its been done or not but we have as good as shot as any1 i ever seen in my life! Thats crazy how we are so different away from home,we not only loose but we get blown out
Not one of these current players knows how to step up and show some control with his team mates. This losing on the road has been going on alot from the last 2-3 classes. Sanchez, Nobles, Scott, Wade, and Waithe. Those are the same guys on the team last couple years.
Someone show some freakin leadership out there!!!
The most frustrating thing is we're trending down
The early road games we at least competed not now.
With a healthy Marshawn Powell were probably at least 2 or 3 wins better at this point. Right now, were playing for an NIT seed. No team has ever been invited to the tournament without winning on the road and I doubt we'll do it by season's end. Auburn plays tough at home and we haven't beaten Mississippi State in Starkville since 2000.
That Jarnell Stokes reminds me so much of Corliss Williamson, except bigger. Man I hate he didn't sign with us him, Mickelson and Powell would have been a tough frontcourt.
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I know Florida is good. But this is embarrassing for Arkansas
I don't remember Nolan's first season in 1985-86 but I can't imagine many home games were this painful
Quote from: Indiana Jones on February 18, 2012, 06:05:20 pm
I don't remember Nolan's first season in 1985-86 but I can't imagine many home games were this painful
The words they threw at him from the stands were worse ! They wanted Nolan out of there on the 1st thing smoking !
Man, that was painful.
This is what happens when you play a seasoned talented team like Florida. One day soon the Hogs will be like this.
I went and watched. Ouchy.
Sigh.
It made me sick to see Nolan in the stands. Can't he be gone already!?!?!!
Quote from: pantherblue on February 18, 2012, 09:36:40 pm
It made me sick to see Nolan in the stands. Can't he be gone already!?!?!!
Are you being serious?
Very
Quote from: pantherblue on February 18, 2012, 09:36:40 pm
It made me sick to see Nolan in the stands. Can't he be gone already!?!?!!
Are we not back to square one with the Nolan system. I'd be more upset if I saw Stan Heath in the crowd. It's ugly enough to see Periphery's no coaching tail walk out with a win with the Gators today.
Nolan is HOG Basketball. He leads the school in all time wins, 15 winning seasons out of 17 years as the Hogs head coach. 3 NCAA Final Fours, Back to Back NCAA Title Games, 1 NIT Final Four, SWC & SEC Champs and oh yea the ONLY NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP in the history of the school. The U of A has 4 total NCAA Final Four apperances. Nolan took them to 3 !
I know he went out in a bad way. BUT... He came in to a truck load of BS when he took the job at Arkansas. Some of the fans were pure jackwagons ! So when Nolan went superstar on them they were offended. If ya living in a glass house don't throw any stones !
To me NOLAN sits where he wants too at Bud Walton. They need to name the floor after him. So a truck load more people like Pantherblue can be mad as heck !
And I would be too! LOL. he did his best to bring John Thompson at Georgetown into his BS but Thompson had far more class than Nolan did. He then found himself on an island by himself and with back to back mediocre seasons threatened Broyles to fire him. Had he had some class and kept recruiting and coaching he would have went down as a great coach instead of the classless man he proved to be. Mike Anderson on the other hand stayed classy and took the high road and now look where he is years after the BS cleared.
I'm more glad that old man broyles is gone. Would rather see Nolan in the stands than that guy.
I hear you AW but that old man brought in millions for the program with his connections.
On another note, officiating wasn't the primary reason we got blown out but it was arguably the worst officiating I've ever seen. There were so many tick tack fouls being called it was ridiculous. Florida got the line 34 times in the game. Ive never heard of any away team getting that many chances at the free throw line. Some blown calls and the double technical call to took forever to clarify. I thought MA was going to explode on the sideline.
Quote from: pantherblue on February 19, 2012, 05:08:30 am
And I would be too! LOL. he did his best to bring John Thompson at Georgetown into his BS but Thompson had far more class than Nolan did. He then found himself on an island by himself and with back to back mediocre seasons threatened Broyles to fire him. Had he had some class and kept recruiting and coaching he would have went down as a great coach instead of the classless man he proved to be. Mike Anderson on the other hand stayed classy and took the high road and now look where he is years after the BS cleared.
So Nolan was classless? Not Frank and not the University? Seems to me all the people involved in the incident have been punished enough but Nolan... oh no he deserves more and for what reason? He exposed what has been talked about for decades UA is NOT a diverse campus and in some ways still operated in the, "good ole boy system"! It was past time to open the eyes of University. Diversity wise UA is light years better now than it was 20 years ago! At least now there is a conscious effort to remove the stigma up there and it is working but there is still work to do. I am positive had the Nolan fiasco not happened UA would still be looked at as school time forgot. To me that's more valueable than the National Championship!
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Quote from: pantherblue on February 19, 2012, 05:08:30 am
And I would be too! LOL. he did his best to bring John Thompson at Georgetown into his BS but Thompson had far more class than Nolan did. He then found himself on an island by himself and with back to back mediocre seasons threatened Broyles to fire him. Had he had some class and kept recruiting and coaching he would have went down as a great coach instead of the classless man he proved to be. Mike Anderson on the other hand stayed classy and took the high road and now look where he is years after the BS cleared.
So Nolan was classless? Not Frank and not the University? Seems to me all the people involved in the incident have been punished enough but Nolan... oh no he deserves more and for what reason? He exposed what has been talked about for decades UA is NOT a diverse campus and in some ways still operated in the, "good ole boy system"! It was past time to open the eyes of University. Diversity wise UA is light years better now than it was 20 years ago! At least now there is a conscious effort to remove the stigma up there and it is working but there is still work to do. I am positive had the Nolan fiasco not happened UA would still be looked at as school time forgot. To me that's more valueable than the National Championship!
I'm not buying that... Nolan's fiasco set the basketball program back 20 years.. LOL
No doubt! But that was not ALL Nolan's fault no way he could have done that by himself!
Quote from: pantherblue on February 19, 2012, 04:38:05 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 19, 2012, 04:32:32 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 19, 2012, 05:08:30 am
And I would be too! LOL. he did his best to bring John Thompson at Georgetown into his BS but Thompson had far more class than Nolan did. He then found himself on an island by himself and with back to back mediocre seasons threatened Broyles to fire him. Had he had some class and kept recruiting and coaching he would have went down as a great coach instead of the classless man he proved to be. Mike Anderson on the other hand stayed classy and took the high road and now look where he is years after the BS cleared.
So Nolan was classless? Not Frank and not the University? Seems to me all the people involved in the incident have been punished enough but Nolan... oh no he deserves more and for what reason? He exposed what has been talked about for decades UA is NOT a diverse campus and in some ways still operated in the, "good ole boy system"!
It was past time to open the eyes of University. Diversity wise UA is light years better now than it was 20 years ago! At least now there is a conscious effort to remove the stigma up there and it is working but there is still work to do. I am positive had the Nolan fiasco not happened UA would still be looked at as school time forgot. To me that's more valueable than the National Championship!
I'm not buying that... Nolan's fiasco set the basketball program back 20 years.. LOL
Naw the truth from Nolan kept the program stuck for 10 years. The powers that be went out to cover their tails PB. Hiring Stan Heath was a snow job. Pull the good old boy blinders off PB ! Pelphery was another massive mistake. Nolan told us the program would sink if he left. That's why he said they can cut my check now if they want too ! He knew NO ONE could come in and feed the monster he created. We had Mike Anderson for the asking after the debacle. But the Hog Brokers and some of the fans wanted anything that had to do with Nolan gone !
So guess who's laughing now ? NOLAN ! It hurts to be mad doesn't it Pantherblue ? LOL !
Nolan is a mans man. He stayed in Fayetteville and looked them dead in the face. Now his number one pupil is back running the show just like Nolan. It has to be a huge since of PRIDE when Nolan walks in to Bud Walton. He's hung more banners in that place than anyone. So let it go people.
If Kentucky can still embrace a race monger like Adolph Rupp and still bring in top flight Black players. I see no reason why Nolan can't be forgiven for a sad time in Razorback Basketball.
If anyone was a bigger factor to the program being where it is right now its John White.
Quote from: Hoghead on February 20, 2012, 02:26:00 am
If Kentucky can still embrace a race monger like Adolph Rupp and still bring in top flight Black players. I see no reason why Nolan can't be forgiven for a sad time in Razorback Basketball.
Lord you said it! It's time to let that mess go. No need to keep stirring it cause every time that you do it stinks! I think it was no oversight that Frank was not part of the ESPN documentary of 1994 team. He knew and UA knew it was best he said nothing. Petrino is finding out what Nolan told us all way back then it's hard recruiting kids to Arkansas. Yet he found a way to get his players to win. Think about it we were beating the TOP basketball programs in America! North Carolina, Duke, Michigan, Syracuse, Kentucky... When BP starts beating Alabama, USC, Texas, Oklahoma, Ohio State...then we can decide who really deserves praise until then it's Nolan, even with the way things ended!
What happened Nolan's last 2 years when he had the crap started?? Was he competing with the big dogs then? Did he leave great athletes here for Heath? No, he was not winning and left no recruits. Heck look what Pel left for Anderson.
Quote from: Hoghead on February 20, 2012, 02:26:00 am
Quote from: pantherblue on February 19, 2012, 04:38:05 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 19, 2012, 04:32:32 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 19, 2012, 05:08:30 am
And I would be too! LOL. he did his best to bring John Thompson at Georgetown into his BS but Thompson had far more class than Nolan did. He then found himself on an island by himself and with back to back mediocre seasons threatened Broyles to fire him. Had he had some class and kept recruiting and coaching he would have went down as a great coach instead of the classless man he proved to be. Mike Anderson on the other hand stayed classy and took the high road and now look where he is years after the BS cleared.
So Nolan was classless? Not Frank and not the University? Seems to me all the people involved in the incident have been punished enough but Nolan... oh no he deserves more and for what reason? He exposed what has been talked about for decades UA is NOT a diverse campus and in some ways still operated in the, "good ole boy system"!
It was past time to open the eyes of University. Diversity wise UA is light years better now than it was 20 years ago! At least now there is a conscious effort to remove the stigma up there and it is working but there is still work to do. I am positive had the Nolan fiasco not happened UA would still be looked at as school time forgot. To me that's more valueable than the National Championship!
I'm not buying that... Nolan's fiasco set the basketball program back 20 years.. LOL
Naw the truth from Nolan kept the program stuck for 10 years. The powers that be went out to cover their tails PB. Hiring Stan Heath was a snow job. Pull the good old boy blinders off PB ! Pelphery was another massive mistake. Nolan told us the program would sink if he left. That's why he said they can cut my check now if they want too ! He knew NO ONE could come in and feed the monster he created. We had Mike Anderson for the asking after the debacle. But the Hog Brokers and some of the fans wanted anything that had to do with Nolan gone !
So guess who's laughing now ? NOLAN ! It hurts to be mad doesn't it Pantherblue ? LOL !
Nolan is a mans man. He stayed in Fayetteville and looked them dead in the face. Now his number one pupil is back running the show just like Nolan. It has to be a huge since of PRIDE when Nolan walks in to Bud Walton. He's hung more banners in that place than anyone. So let it go people.
If Kentucky can still embrace a race monger like Adolph Rupp and still bring in top flight Black players. I see no reason why Nolan can't be forgiven for a sad time in Razorback Basketball.
'Nolan is a mans man. He stayed in Fayetteville and looked them dead in the face. Now his number one pupil is back running the show just like Nolan. It has to be a huge since of PRIDE when Nolan walks in to Bud Walton. He's hung more banners in that place than anyone. So let it go people.'
This is a great quote. He told it like it was. Guys like pantherblue do not, will not ever understand what Nolan did for this program. Yes, he did not choose wisely the words he used that started his fall, but IMO he should have gotten a pass on that. He won at every level he had coached. He would have had us right back at the top given more time.
They should put a statue of him at the entrance to Bud Walton.
It is possible to appreciate his work and to note his tanks comments as harmful. Where he's been and what he's been through has no bearing as to acknowledging his career with such high honors.
To award him such honors, you have to look at the entire contribution versus the harm he did down the strectch.
He tried and did partially destroy his own image and the UA itself through his own actions.. The UA doesn't owe him any more nor does he deserve any further awards.
B.G. Understands and remembers just as I do. Nolan could have worn razorback red to the game Saturday and I probably wouldn't have said a word. But......
Quote from: Indiana Jones on February 18, 2012, 06:05:20 pm
I don't remember Nolan's first season in 1985-86 but I can't imagine many home games were this painful
12-16...worst home loss was by 16 to Texas AandM who lost first round of NCAA tournament
Quote from: B.G. on February 20, 2012, 11:16:25 am
It is possible to appreciate his work and to note his tanks comments as harmful. Where he's been and what he's been through has no bearing as to acknowledging his career with such high honors.
To award him such honors, you have to look at the entire contribution versus the harm he did down the strectch.
He tried and did partially destroy his own image and the UA itself through his own actions.. The UA doesn't owe him any more nor does he deserve any further awards.
Wrong. He brought us something NO OTHER coach has done in a major sport. He brought us an undisputed national championship, and a runner up. He deserves much more. He also deserved to be treated better than he was at both the beginning and end of his career.
You are just a hater BG. You probably don't think Pete Rose deserves to be in the baseball HOF.
I give Pete the nod everywhere. What he done as a player was HOF worthy. What he did as a coach is less than many other coaches.
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 10:06:52 am
What happened Nolan's last 2 years when he had the crap started?? Was he competing with the big dogs then? Did he leave great athletes here for Heath? No, he was not winning and left no recruits. Heck look what Pel left for Anderson.
[/quoteQuote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 10:06:52 am
What happened Nolan's last 2 years when he had the crap started?? Was he competing with the big dogs then? Did he leave great athletes here for Heath? No, he was not winning and left no recruits. Heck look what Pel left for Anderson.
So you think Nolan should be barred from the Bud because of his last two season or because of how he left? See I think it's BS to say it was because of his last 2 seasons that's the source of your anger towards him. ANYWHERE else outside of Kentucky a national championship and runner-up would have bought the coach more time. Just tell the truth you didn't like what he said about school (most of which was true) and embarrassed the university. Now the stuff that happen AFTER Nolan left...I really don't see how he can be charged with that total lack leadership!
Nolan lost me before his last 2 seasons and before he left. When he started that BCA talk and tried to get big John Thompson to join him. Why was any of that needed coming after back to back great seasons? He was just a troublemaker in the end and used the stage he had to rant. I was sitting back laughing 2 years later when he challenged Broyles to fire him.
I think your memory is little off John Thompson John Chaney were the ones big on the BCA! Nolan did become a part of it but he was far from being the leader. Nolan has a never been a man that needed someone to follow him or a man that needed to follow somebody. It's part of what made him great and what ultimately his downfall. As far as trouble maker depends upon "what is trouble" I submit that when a schools AD is sitting at a table with media and athletes using the N word in the 1990's...now that's trouble!
Nolan tarnished his own legacy as early as the '95 NC game... Arkansas should have destroyed UCLA that night but Richardson's reluctance to teach fundamentals cost Arkansas dearly that night...
Quote from: sevenof400 on February 20, 2012, 12:07:56 pm
Nolan tarnished his own legacy as early as the '95 NC game... Arkansas should have destroyed UCLA that night but Richardson's reluctance to teach fundamentals cost Arkansas dearly that night...
My God some of this stuff kills me. They get beat in a National Championship finals, by a team that had as many or more players go to the NBA [FYI- two first rounder, 4 second rounders] , and you say it's because he didn't teach fundamentals. He routinely beat more talented teams.
I guess he used up all his allotted fundamental teaching on them the year before,,,,,,,,,
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 11:42:10 am
Nolan lost me before his last 2 seasons and before he left. When he started that BCA talk and tried to get big John Thompson to join him. Why was any of that needed coming after back to back great seasons? He was just a troublemaker in the end and used the stage he had to rant. I was sitting back laughing 2 years later when he challenged Broyles to fire him.
Boy,, I'll bet you were really laughing when Stan Heath and Pelphrey got rolling,,,,,,,,
When did either get rolling? LOL
now Pel would have HS these same guys this year so who knows.
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 01:11:50 pm
When did either get rolling? LOL
now Pel would have HS these same guys this year so who knows.
Pelphry had decent players.... Patrick Beverly, Courtney Fortson, Sonny Weems, Steven Hill.... Pelphry couldnt coach. He couldnt even get the top in state players to come play for him i.e. Fred Gulley and AJ Walton among others. They left soley because of Pelphrys coaching. Now we got Gulley back. Pelphry could hardly ever get this state excited about basketball. How many times has a team with 8 scholoarship players, 4 of which are freshman, been beaten by 20+ points multiple times on the road then come home to 19K+ people ready to go nuts for them? Thats all MA. Sure Pelphry would have had this group of players... But they would not be having the season they are having under MA.
Quote from: mack on February 20, 2012, 11:30:06 am
Quote from: B.G. on February 20, 2012, 11:16:25 am
It is possible to appreciate his work and to note his tanks comments as harmful. Where he's been and what he's been through has no bearing as to acknowledging his career with such high honors.
To award him such honors, you have to look at the entire contribution versus the harm he did down the strectch.
He tried and did partially destroy his own image and the UA itself through his own actions.. The UA doesn't owe him any more nor does he deserve any further awards.
Wrong. He brought us something NO OTHER coach has done in a major sport. He brought us an undisputed national championship, and a runner up. He deserves much more. He also deserved to be treated better than he was at both the beginning and end of his career.
You are just a hater BG. You probably don't think Pete Rose deserves to be in the baseball HOF.
Not that simple. He was paid and honored for his accomplishments. He was paid 10 years beyond his last game.
I give him credit for all that. But I can seperate the two. He sued the UA and promised to bring it to it's knees. He tried to tear it down and has been unapologetic from the get go. He was not done wrong by the UA and court proved it.
It's absurd to think you name a court or give a statue to someone that sued you for cause and lost.
I have no problem giving him his due in other ways and forums.
But his freakish behavior at the 94 final four, his ongoing fued with authority(for what), his final seven years of lowered performance, his press conference at Kentucky, his subsequent press conference the following Monday, his tanks comment, his lawsuit and his overal general ripping of this state land grant institution is not to be overlooked.
He's not the only coach that had trouble with his AD and he ain't getting merit points because he pouted the loudest, screamed the longest and sued that very employer. The very empolyer that gave him a unique opportunity.
It's noteworthy that he never really got another coaching job in the college ranks. Wonder why that was? It sure wasn't the UA's fault on that. It was his own for being such a defiant personality. No one wanted that.
What drove him, killed him. He gets accolades and scorn for that.
Quote from: krik6 on February 20, 2012, 01:24:28 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 01:11:50 pm
When did either get rolling? LOL
now Pel would have HS these same guys this year so who knows.
Pelphry had decent players.... Patrick Beverly, Courtney Fortson, Sonny Weems, Steven Hill.... Pelphry couldnt coach. He couldnt even get the top in state players to come play for him i.e. Fred Gulley and AJ Walton among others. They left soley because of Pelphrys coaching. Now we got Gulley back. Pelphry could hardly ever get this state excited about basketball. How many times has a team with 8 scholoarship players, 4 of which are freshman, been beaten by 20+ points multiple times on the road then come home to 19K+ people ready to go nuts for them? Thats all MA. Sure Pelphry would have had this group of players... But they would not be having the season they are having under MA.
Beveryly and Weems both left early and Fortson was a pothead.. LOL And Stephen Hill, where is he playng now??
PB, if I knew you missed GB football and Burcham that bad I would have found you all his high school game videos so you could tame your winter boredom and lash attack on our Nolan supporters. ;D
Be calm blue cat, drink another European brand, my friend.
Love Nolan or Hate him, he won a ton of games on the Hill.
Did he say he "hated" him?
Quote from: B.G. on February 20, 2012, 01:29:19 pm
Quote from: mack on February 20, 2012, 11:30:06 am
Quote from: B.G. on February 20, 2012, 11:16:25 am
It is possible to appreciate his work and to note his tanks comments as harmful. Where he's been and what he's been through has no bearing as to acknowledging his career with such high honors.
To award him such honors, you have to look at the entire contribution versus the harm he did down the stretch.
He tried and did partially destroy his own image and the UA itself through his own actions.. The UA doesn't owe him any more nor does he deserve any further awards.
Wrong. He brought us something NO OTHER coach has done in a major sport. He brought us an undisputed national championship, and a runner up. He deserves much more. He also deserved to be treated better than he was at both the beginning and end of his career.
You are just a hater BG. You probably don't think Pete Rose deserves to be in the baseball HOF.
Not that simple. He was paid and honored for his accomplishments. He was paid 10 years beyond his last game.
I give him credit for all that. But I can separate the two. He sued the UA and promised to bring it to it's knees. He tried to tear it down and has been unapologetic from the get go. He was not done wrong by the UA and court proved it.
It's absurd to think you name a court or give a statue to someone that sued you for cause and lost.
I have no problem giving him his due in other ways and forums.
But his freakish behavior at the 94 final four, his ongoing feud with authority(for what), his final seven years of lowered performance, his press conference at Kentucky, his subsequent press conference the following Monday, his tanks comment, his lawsuit and his overall general ripping of this state land grant institution is not to be overlooked.
He's not the only coach that had trouble with his AD and he ain't getting merit points because he pouted the loudest, screamed the longest and sued that very employer. The very employer that gave him a unique opportunity.
It's noteworthy that he never really got another coaching job in the college ranks. Wonder why that was? It sure wasn't the Au's fault on that. It was his own for being such a defiant personality. No one wanted that.
What drove him, killed him. He gets accolades and scorn for that.
C'mon BG, you know very well he could have coached again in college. To do so would have canceled out the settlement dollars he was owed. It would have been national news if he had been pursuing another school, he never did. You're being disingenuous on that.
As far as the suit, if he felt he was wronged by the Uof A, he should have sued them. I'd like to sue them for ever hiring Houston Nutt, but I still love the University.
Hopefully, when the white-haired devil and guys like you and I are feeding the worms, the powers that be up there will recognize the best major sport coach they ever had with a statue.
Quote from: mack on February 20, 2012, 12:46:46 pm
Quote from: sevenof400 on February 20, 2012, 12:07:56 pm
Nolan tarnished his own legacy as early as the '95 NC game... Arkansas should have destroyed UCLA that night but Richardson's reluctance to teach fundamentals cost Arkansas dearly that night...
My God some of this stuff kills me. They get beat in a National Championship finals, by a team that had as many or more players go to the NBA [FYI- two first rounder, 4 second rounders] , and you say it's because he didn't teach fundamentals. He routinely beat more talented teams.
I guess he used up all his allotted fundamental teaching on them the year before,,,,,,,,,
No Nolan Richardson team was ever a fundamentally sound team. NEVER.
Sure, they beat a lot of teams in the early to mid 90's because Nolan was able to recruit more than his share of talent to Fayetteville (and he does deserve credit for that) but fundamentals lost the 95 NC game. In that game, I lost count of the number of times Arkansas failed to box out thus allowing UCLA an easy rebound on either end of the court.
Quote from: InYoGrill on February 20, 2012, 01:53:06 pm
PB, if I knew you missed GB football and Burcham that bad I would have found you all his high school game videos so you could tame your winter boredom and lash attack on our Nolan supporters. ;D
Be calm blue cat, drink another European brand, my friend.
Love Nolan or Hate him, he won a ton of games on the Hill.
Nolan is no Bill Clinton so no, I don't hate him at all... Just time for him to move on down the road or dawn the razorback colors during the game if he so chooses to go to them... LOL
Quote from: mack on February 20, 2012, 02:19:35 pm
Hopefully, when the white-haired devil and guys like you and I are feeding the worms, the powers that be up there will recognize the best major sport coach they ever had with a statue.
Wowzer. Not all disagreement is hate. I would be willing to bet you I've spent more time with him than you have. I've fed homeless along side him and worked at camps with him. I appreciate and respect his accomplishments.
But giving him a statue would be like leaving all your money to your ex-wife upon your death because she birthed your first born. That ship sailed.
Quote from: mack on February 20, 2012, 02:19:35 pm
C'mon BG, you know very well he could have coached again in college. To do so would have canceled out the settlement dollars he was owed. It would have been national news if he had been pursuing another school, he never did. You're being disingenuous on that.
No, I'm not. He wanted other jobs to show he could coach again as a means to prove his doubter wrong. He just found out he wasn't as wanted as he wished. There were rumors all over the place for quite awhile after his departure.
And the money thing is valid partially. It was his safety net, but for a man so sure he was wronged he certainly could have gone out and followed his convictions and proved to doubters his belief that he still had what it took. He was so sure he was going to win his lawsuit that he banked on that with his professional life.
I again ask. "What specific (provable) thing was done to him"?
It seems that the pro-Nolan100% backers need to discover personal faults with those that are not with them unilaterally. Life isn't that simple.
I don't like 100% about people I vote for nor do I dislike 100% of the things people I don't vote for stand for at election time.
It's called balance. It's possible to like/respect someone and dislike things they have done.
Quote from: B.G. on February 20, 2012, 02:48:47 pm
Quote from: mack on February 20, 2012, 02:19:35 pm
Hopefully, when the white-haired devil and guys like you and I are feeding the worms, the powers that be up there will recognize the best major sport coach they ever had with a statue.
Wowzer. Not all disagreement is hate. I would be willing to bet you I've spent more time with him than you have. I've fed homeless along side him and worked at camps with him. I appreciate and respect his accomplishments.
But giving him a statue would be like leaving all your money to your ex-wife upon your death because she birthed your first born. That ship sailed.
Quote from: mack on February 20, 2012, 02:19:35 pm
C'mon BG, you know very well he could have coached again in college. To do so would have canceled out the settlement dollars he was owed. It would have been national news if he had been pursuing another school, he never did. You're being disingenuous on that.
No, I'm not. He wanted other jobs to show he could coach again as a means to prove his doubter wrong. He just found out he wasn't as wanted as he wished. There were rumors all over the place for quite awhile after his departure.
And the money thing is valid partially. It was his safety net, but for a man so sure he was wronged he certainly could have gone out and followed his convictions and proved to doubters his belief that he still had what it took. He was so sure he was going to win his lawsuit that he banked on that with his professional life.
And was just fired from coaching a women's team for failure to win if I"m not mistaken?
I doubt it happens Mack Nolan bucked the status quo something NOBODY has ever really done up there. He must be punished in perpetuity! Heck it took dang near 20 years for them to honor the 94 team as if they did something wrong!
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 02:55:51 pm
I doubt it happens Mack Nolan bucked the status quo something NOBODY has ever really done up there. He must be punished in perpetuity! Heck it took dang near 20 years for them to honor the 94 team as if they did something wrong!
But he felt no need to "buck the system" till after he won the NC... He had to set the stage first and I guess he was just treated badly his first few years on the hill yet chose to stay and coach through it all.... LOL
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 02:55:51 pm
I doubt it happens Mack Nolan bucked the status quo something NOBODY has ever really done up there. He must be punished in perpetuity! Heck it took dang near 20 years for them to honor the 94 team as if they did something wrong!
You say 'bucked', I say 'insubordinate' to his professional superiors at his job. He's not being punished just because he doesn't get a statue or the court named after him. He's just not getting an honor, they are not stripping his name from the record book.
As for the '94 thing, he would not come back in the building until then.
As of today, his wife Rose still doesn't. That's her prerogative.
Quote from: sevenof400 on February 20, 2012, 02:35:52 pm
Quote from: mack on February 20, 2012, 12:46:46 pm
Quote from: sevenof400 on February 20, 2012, 12:07:56 pm
Nolan tarnished his own legacy as early as the '95 NC game... Arkansas should have destroyed UCLA that night but Richardson's reluctance to teach fundamentals cost Arkansas dearly that night...
My God some of this stuff kills me. They get beat in a National Championship finals, by a team that had as many or more players go to the NBA [FYI- two first rounder, 4 second rounders] , and you say it's because he didn't teach fundamentals. He routinely beat more talented teams.
I guess he used up all his allotted fundamental teaching on them the year before,,,,,,,,,
No Nolan Richardson team was ever a fundamentally sound team. NEVER.
Sure, they beat a lot of teams in the early to mid 90's because Nolan was able to recruit more than his share of talent to Fayetteville (and he does deserve credit for that) but fundamentals lost the 95 NC game. In that game, I lost count of the number of times Arkansas failed to box out thus allowing UCLA an easy rebound on either end of the court.
Nolan's team were routinely out rebounded so I am not sure where you got the idea all of sudden it cost them the second national championship. Arkansas lost because UCLA had something that gave Corliss problems his entire basketball career. Long athletic players gave him fits and they shut him down inside. They also had solid guard play which negated the pressure defense that we played. UCLA had the answer for everything we had that year.
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 02:58:42 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 02:55:51 pm
I doubt it happens Mack Nolan bucked the status quo something NOBODY has ever really done up there. He must be punished in perpetuity! Heck it took dang near 20 years for them to honor the 94 team as if they did something wrong!
But he felt no need to "buck the system" till after he won the NC... He had to set the stage first and I guess he was just treated badly his first few years on the hill yet chose to stay and coach through it all.... LOL
OR he felt like how can I still be treated poorly after winning it all and felt things were never gonna change as long as the current leadership stayed. Sure he mis calculated he thought he had earned the right to speak out so he did.
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:07:57 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 02:58:42 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 02:55:51 pm
I doubt it happens Mack Nolan bucked the status quo something NOBODY has ever really done up there. He must be punished in perpetuity! Heck it took dang near 20 years for them to honor the 94 team as if they did something wrong!
But he felt no need to "buck the system" till after he won the NC... He had to set the stage first and I guess he was just treated badly his first few years on the hill yet chose to stay and coach through it all.... LOL
OR he felt like how can I still be treated poorly after winning it all and felt things were never gonna change as long as the current leadership stayed. Sure he mis calculated he thought he had earned the right to speak out so he did.
Again and specifically/factually, how was he treated poorly after the first few years?
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:07:57 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 02:58:42 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 02:55:51 pm
I doubt it happens Mack Nolan bucked the status quo something NOBODY has ever really done up there. He must be punished in perpetuity! Heck it took dang near 20 years for them to honor the 94 team as if they did something wrong!
But he felt no need to "buck the system" till after he won the NC... He had to set the stage first and I guess he was just treated badly his first few years on the hill yet chose to stay and coach through it all.... LOL
OR he felt like how can I still be treated poorly after winning it all and felt things were never gonna change as long as the current leadership stayed. Sure he mis calculated he thought he had earned the right to speak out so he did.
Broyles connections built Bud Walton not Nolan's... How do you go against the man who hired you and put you in a brand new arena giving you the free run of the program? Broyles had way less involvement in basketball compared to the football program...
Quote from: B.G. on February 20, 2012, 02:59:12 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 02:55:51 pm
I doubt it happens Mack Nolan bucked the status quo something NOBODY has ever really done up there. He must be punished in perpetuity! Heck it took dang near 20 years for them to honor the 94 team as if they did something wrong!
You say 'bucked', I say 'insubordinate' to his professional superiors at his job. He's not being punished just because he doesn't get a statue or the court named after him. He's just not getting an honor, they are not stripping his name from the record book.
As for the '94 thing, he would not come back in the building until then.
As of today, his wife Rose still doesn't. That's her prerogative.
HIM not coming back should not have prevented the recognition! If the players chose not to attend without him...I think that speaks for itself what they thought went on! Oh officially he never proved he was discriminated against that doesn't mean he was no done unfairly. the fact that UA went out and hired Affirmative Action hire Stan Heath was a strong indication that even UA thought Nolan had a case!
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:18:53 pm
Quote from: B.G. on February 20, 2012, 02:59:12 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 02:55:51 pm
I doubt it happens Mack Nolan bucked the status quo something NOBODY has ever really done up there. He must be punished in perpetuity! Heck it took dang near 20 years for them to honor the 94 team as if they did something wrong!
You say 'bucked', I say 'insubordinate' to his professional superiors at his job. He's not being punished just because he doesn't get a statue or the court named after him. He's just not getting an honor, they are not stripping his name from the record book.
As for the '94 thing, he would not come back in the building until then.
As of today, his wife Rose still doesn't. That's her prerogative.
HIM not coming back should not have prevented the recognition! If the players chose not to attend without him...I think that speaks for itself what they thought went on! Oh officially he never proved he was discriminated against that doesn't mean he was no done unfairly. the fact that UA went out and hired Affirmative Action hire Stan Heath was a strong indication that even UA thought Nolan had a case!
I'm going to politely disagree with you a bit. On the reunion, they wanted him there and if he had not had been there(his fault or UA's fault) his absence would have been the story more than the reunion itself. They wanted him there. Plus you know how we Americans are so caught up on round numbers for birthday's, anniversaries and reunions. The 10 year was too soon as it was. Many of the players were still playing and couldn't be there.
Also, I see nothing wrong with the Heath hiring. Someone was going to have to follow and I don't care what tone he was. People would have made a big deal out of it either way the UA went.
Surely, we are past that kind of thought process.
But I can't give the Heath hiring on it's face as some kind of ploy because there is no basis or proof.
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 03:12:19 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:07:57 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 02:58:42 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 02:55:51 pm
I doubt it happens Mack Nolan bucked the status quo something NOBODY has ever really done up there. He must be punished in perpetuity! Heck it took dang near 20 years for them to honor the 94 team as if they did something wrong!
But he felt no need to "buck the system" till after he won the NC... He had to set the stage first and I guess he was just treated badly his first few years on the hill yet chose to stay and coach through it all.... LOL
OR he felt like how can I still be treated poorly after winning it all and felt things were never gonna change as long as the current leadership stayed. Sure he mis calculated he thought he had earned the right to speak out so he did.
Broyles connections built Bud Walton not Nolan's... How do you go against the man who hired you and put you in a brand new arena giving you the free run of the program? Broyles had way less involvement in basketball compared to the football program...
You mean the same man that plotted to fire him while his daughter laid dying in the hospital bed? The same man that because of his "connections" had the NCAA sniffing around on campus threatening to put UA on probation thereby running away recruits. The same man that thinks calling white people redneck is equal to calling black people N's and voices that opinion in public. The same man that actually lied on the witness stand during the trial. How could you go against such a man ???
The last sentence Frank had less involvement in the basketball program than the football program. YEP and look at the results of his less involvement Greatness vs Mediocrity!
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:28:08 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 03:12:19 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:07:57 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 02:58:42 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 02:55:51 pm
I doubt it happens Mack Nolan bucked the status quo something NOBODY has ever really done up there. He must be punished in perpetuity! Heck it took dang near 20 years for them to honor the 94 team as if they did something wrong!
But he felt no need to "buck the system" till after he won the NC... He had to set the stage first and I guess he was just treated badly his first few years on the hill yet chose to stay and coach through it all.... LOL
OR he felt like how can I still be treated poorly after winning it all and felt things were never gonna change as long as the current leadership stayed. Sure he mis calculated he thought he had earned the right to speak out so he did.
Broyles connections built Bud Walton not Nolan's... How do you go against the man who hired you and put you in a brand new arena giving you the free run of the program? Broyles had way less involvement in basketball compared to the football program...
You mean the same man that plotted to fire him while his daughter laid dying in the hospital bed? The same man that because of his "connections" had the NCAA sniffing around on campus threatening to put UA on probation thereby running away recruits. The same man that thinks calling white people redneck is equal to calling black people N's and voices that opinion in public. The same man that actually lied on the witness stand during the trial. How could you go against such a man ???
The last sentence Frank had less involvement in the basketball program than the football program. YEP and look at the results of his less involvement Greatness vs Mediocrity!
I have never been a Broyles fan but don't for one minute think that I don't know what his imprtance was to the U of A where my son is at right now. I hated Broyles hands in the football program...
Please, let's not go that far astray here.
Quote from: B.G. on February 20, 2012, 03:24:17 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:18:53 pm
Quote from: B.G. on February 20, 2012, 02:59:12 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 02:55:51 pm
I doubt it happens Mack Nolan bucked the status quo something NOBODY has ever really done up there. He must be punished in perpetuity! Heck it took dang near 20 years for them to honor the 94 team as if they did something wrong!
You say 'bucked', I say 'insubordinate' to his professional superiors at his job. He's not being punished just because he doesn't get a statue or the court named after him. He's just not getting an honor, they are not stripping his name from the record book.
As for the '94 thing, he would not come back in the building until then.
As of today, his wife Rose still doesn't. That's her prerogative.
HIM not coming back should not have prevented the recognition! If the players chose not to attend without him...I think that speaks for itself what they thought went on! Oh officially he never proved he was discriminated against that doesn't mean he was no done unfairly. the fact that UA went out and hired Affirmative Action hire Stan Heath was a strong indication that even UA thought Nolan had a case!
I'm going to politely disagree with you a bit. On the reunion, they wanted him there and if he had not had been there(his fault or UA's fault) his absence would have been the story more than the reunion itself. They wanted him there. Plus you know how we Americans are so caught up on round numbers for birthday's, anniversaries and reunions. The 10 year was too soon as it was. Many of the players were still playing and couldn't be there.
Also, I see nothing wrong with the Heath hiring. Someone was going to have to follow and I don't care what tone he was. People would have made a big deal out of it either way the UA went.
Surely, we are past that kind of thought process.
But I can't give the Heath hiring on it's face as some kind of ploy because there is no basis or proof.
Well it's not so much about the 10 year reunion it was that little else was done! The reunion should have been icing on the cake as it was it was shameful how that team was ignored!
So you honestly think Stan Heath was ready to coach a major college program and THAT is why they hired him? Add the fact that he was the exact opposite of Nolan personality wise and it appears to me they were more concerned with image vs ability.
The MAJOR part of UA basketball had gone by the wayside before Nolan was terminated. The door wasn't exactly lined up with hopefuls for the job when Heath was hired.... Heck the same goes for Pelphry... Who else wanted the job? One guy was even hired and quit the same day... LOL
Quote from: sevenof400 on February 20, 2012, 02:35:52 pm
Quote from: mack on February 20, 2012, 12:46:46 pm
Quote from: sevenof400 on February 20, 2012, 12:07:56 pm
Nolan tarnished his own legacy as early as the '95 NC game... Arkansas should have destroyed UCLA that night but Richardson's reluctance to teach fundamentals cost Arkansas dearly that night...
My God some of this stuff kills me. They get beat in a National Championship finals, by a team that had as many or more players go to the NBA [FYI- two first rounder, 4 second rounders] , and you say it's because he didn't teach fundamentals. He routinely beat more talented teams.
I guess he used up all his allotted fundamental teaching on them the year before,,,,,,,,,
No Nolan Richardson team was ever a fundamentally sound team. NEVER.
Sure, they beat a lot of teams in the early to mid 90's because Nolan was able to recruit more than his share of talent to Fayetteville (and he does deserve credit for that) but fundamentals lost the 95 NC game. In that game, I lost count of the number of times Arkansas failed to box out thus allowing UCLA an easy rebound on either end of the court.
Do you not understand that Nolan did not always have the most talented teams? He wasn't getting the Parade All-Americans or the 5 star recruits that Duke, NC, Kentucky and on and on got regularly and he still competed with those studs and won. You don't do that without fundamental foundations. We could go ahead and debate this for days, but it would do no good. I could try to explain the nature of Nolan's trapping and pressure defenses and how the nature of those made it difficult to always "box-out", but we'd still disagree. He chose the pressure for easy baskets over sinking back and boxing out 100% of the time. Every commentator that ever discusses him talks about Hall of Fame greatness, yet experts here in Arkansas say he can't coach fundamentals.
I'm baffled,,,,,
I have no doubt his softer personality played a role in the Heath hiring. That is only to say there had been so much noise, it was prudent to go opposite no matter who created the racket.
On the reunion, they are not done yet. You really need to understand the shadow that Nolan cast over any and all things pertaining to those recognition ceremonies. That pillow is getting softer. More will be done. The players and just as much the fans want it too. But it should not be intertwined with a referendum for Nolan. Just a very well coordinated effort to thank him for what he did in that context.
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 03:42:12 pm
The MAJOR part of UA basketball had gone by the wayside before Nolan was terminated. The door wasn't exactly lined up with hopefuls for the job when Heath was hired.... Heck the same goes for Pelphry... Who else wanted the job? One guy was even hired and quit the same day... LOL
And this was because of Nolan's loud trail of tears.
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 03:33:04 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:28:08 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 03:12:19 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:07:57 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 02:58:42 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 02:55:51 pm
I doubt it happens Mack Nolan bucked the status quo something NOBODY has ever really done up there. He must be punished in perpetuity! Heck it took dang near 20 years for them to honor the 94 team as if they did something wrong!
But he felt no need to "buck the system" till after he won the NC... He had to set the stage first and I guess he was just treated badly his first few years on the hill yet chose to stay and coach through it all.... LOL
OR he felt like how can I still be treated poorly after winning it all and felt things were never gonna change as long as the current leadership stayed. Sure he mis calculated he thought he had earned the right to speak out so he did.
Broyles connections built Bud Walton not Nolan's... How do you go against the man who hired you and put you in a brand new arena giving you the free run of the program? Broyles had way less involvement in basketball compared to the football program...
You mean the same man that plotted to fire him while his daughter laid dying in the hospital bed? The same man that because of his "connections" had the NCAA sniffing around on campus threatening to put UA on probation thereby running away recruits. The same man that thinks calling white people redneck is equal to calling black people N's and voices that opinion in public. The same man that actually lied on the witness stand during the trial. How could you go against such a man ???
The last sentence Frank had less involvement in the basketball program than the football program. YEP and look at the results of his less involvement Greatness vs Mediocrity!
I have never been a Broyles fan but don't for one minute think that I don't know what his imprtance was to the U of A where my son is at right now. I hated Broyles hands in the football program... And as far as the R word vs the N word, what makes one less derogatory than the other?
It's OK BG I got this. I promise to stay on track by saying that is why the NATION was so surprised that Nolan won a Championship at ARKANSAS. If we were still in in the 50's, 60's, and 70's I would expect that from Frank but for it to have been in the 90's and school administrator to use such a comparison at the dinner table as the subject of conversation...Like I said the fact he won it all is surprising and even more impressive! You thinking they are same...nothing shocking there!
^^ ZD was asked and he answered on the "word". Now lets move back to a discussion that has stayed civil while disagreeing.
It'd be nice to debate/talk about stuff that has racial angles to it without the byproduct trash that often developes here.
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:37:19 pm
Quote from: B.G. on February 20, 2012, 03:24:17 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:18:53 pm
Quote from: B.G. on February 20, 2012, 02:59:12 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 02:55:51 pm
I doubt it happens Mack Nolan bucked the status quo something NOBODY has ever really done up there. He must be punished in perpetuity! Heck it took dang near 20 years for them to honor the 94 team as if they did something wrong!
You say 'bucked', I say 'insubordinate' to his professional superiors at his job. He's not being punished just because he doesn't get a statue or the court named after him. He's just not getting an honor, they are not stripping his name from the record book.
As for the '94 thing, he would not come back in the building until then.
As of today, his wife Rose still doesn't. That's her prerogative.
HIM not coming back should not have prevented the recognition! If the players chose not to attend without him...I think that speaks for itself what they thought went on! Oh officially he never proved he was discriminated against that doesn't mean he was no done unfairly. the fact that UA went out and hired Affirmative Action hire Stan Heath was a strong indication that even UA thought Nolan had a case!
I'm going to politely disagree with you a bit. On the reunion, they wanted him there and if he had not had been there(his fault or UA's fault) his absence would have been the story more than the reunion itself. They wanted him there. Plus you know how we Americans are so caught up on round numbers for birthday's, anniversaries and reunions. The 10 year was too soon as it was. Many of the players were still playing and couldn't be there.
Also, I see nothing wrong with the Heath hiring. Someone was going to have to follow and I don't care what tone he was. People would have made a big deal out of it either way the UA went.
Surely, we are past that kind of thought process.
But I can't give the Heath hiring on it's face as some kind of ploy because there is no basis or proof.
Well it's not so much about the 10 year reunion it was that little else was done! The reunion should have been icing on the cake as it was it was shameful how that team was ignored!
So you honestly think Stan Heath was ready to coach a major college program and THAT is why they hired him? Add the fact that he was the exact opposite of Nolan personality wise and it appears to me they were more concerned with image vs ability.
Yes, Yes and Yes ZD. More has been celebrated regarding a 'shared' football national championship and the guy who coached that team than was done for a bonafide national championship team and coach.
I wish my stones were half as heavy as Nolan's,,,,,,,
Quote from: B.G. on February 20, 2012, 03:51:56 pm
^^ ZD was asked and he answered on the "word". Now lets move back to a discussion that has stayed civil while disagreeing.
It'd be nice to debate/talk about stuff that has racial angles to it without the byproduct trash that often developes here.
Quote from: B.G. on February 20, 2012, 03:48:41 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 03:42:12 pm
The MAJOR part of UA basketball had gone by the wayside before Nolan was terminated. The door wasn't exactly lined up with hopefuls for the job when Heath was hired.... Heck the same goes for Pelphry... Who else wanted the job? One guy was even hired and quit the same day... LOL
And this was because of Nolan's loud trail of tears.
I recollect there were more people interested in the job after Nolan not so much after Heath and even less after Pel! However, Nolan had nothing to do with the guy accepting and rejecting the job the same day and heck he publicly endorse Pel and even requested that fans be patient. So these guys failed because they just couldn't cut it not because of Nolan's shadow!
Quote from: mack on February 20, 2012, 03:52:21 pm
More has been celebrated regarding a 'shared' football national championship and the guy who coached that team than was done for a bonafide national championship team and coach.
I wish my stones were half as heavy as Nolan's,,,,,,,
This is just a product of being a football school and state. Heck, this message board's traffic and talk radio prove that every single day.
Plus, that football deal Championship is 30 years older so it should have more noteriety as these guys get up in years. Football built our athletic programss. As time goes on I suspect we will have more and more stuff for the basketball team. We need to get them into the retirement years first. Right now, they are earning a living.
In the meanwhile, we have a player from then on staff and the return of an awesome assistant to get us back.
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:56:12 pm
Quote from: B.G. on February 20, 2012, 03:51:56 pm
^^ ZD was asked and he answered on the "word". Now lets move back to a discussion that has stayed civil while disagreeing.
It'd be nice to debate/talk about stuff that has racial angles to it without the byproduct trash that often developes here.
Quote from: B.G. on February 20, 2012, 03:48:41 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 03:42:12 pm
The MAJOR part of UA basketball had gone by the wayside before Nolan was terminated. The door wasn't exactly lined up with hopefuls for the job when Heath was hired.... Heck the same goes for Pelphry... Who else wanted the job? One guy was even hired and quit the same day... LOL
And this was because of Nolan's loud trail of tears.
I recollect there were more people interested in the job after Nolan not so much after Heath and even less after Pel! However, Nolan had nothing to do with the guy accepting and rejecting the job the same day and heck he publicly endorse Pel and even requested that fans be patient. So these guys failed because they just couldn't cut it not because of Nolan's shadow!
Nolan did set us back and made things much harder than should have been the case 8 years removed from a title.
I in no way put the entire burden on him for Heath, Altman and Pel for things they could control. Just some. We should have been in a better position to hire someone better.
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:49:12 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 03:33:04 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:28:08 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 03:12:19 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:07:57 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 02:58:42 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 02:55:51 pm
I doubt it happens Mack Nolan bucked the status quo something NOBODY has ever really done up there. He must be punished in perpetuity! Heck it took dang near 20 years for them to honor the 94 team as if they did something wrong!
But he felt no need to "buck the system" till after he won the NC... He had to set the stage first and I guess he was just treated badly his first few years on the hill yet chose to stay and coach through it all.... LOL
OR he felt like how can I still be treated poorly after winning it all and felt things were never gonna change as long as the current leadership stayed. Sure he mis calculated he thought he had earned the right to speak out so he did.
Broyles connections built Bud Walton not Nolan's... How do you go against the man who hired you and put you in a brand new arena giving you the free run of the program? Broyles had way less involvement in basketball compared to the football program...
You mean the same man that plotted to fire him while his daughter laid dying in the hospital bed? The same man that because of his "connections" had the NCAA sniffing around on campus threatening to put UA on probation thereby running away recruits. The same man that thinks calling white people redneck is equal to calling black people N's and voices that opinion in public. The same man that actually lied on the witness stand during the trial. How could you go against such a man ???
The last sentence Frank had less involvement in the basketball program than the football program. YEP and look at the results of his less involvement Greatness vs Mediocrity!
I have never been a Broyles fan but don't for one minute think that I don't know what his imprtance was to the U of A where my son is at right now. I hated Broyles hands in the football program... And as far as the R word vs the N word, what makes one less derogatory than the other?
It's OK BG I got this. I promise to stay on track by saying that is why the NATION was so surprised that Nolan won a Championship at ARKANSAS. If we were still in in the 50's, 60's, and 70's I would expect that from Frank but for it to have been in the 90's and school administrator to use such a comparison at the dinner table as the subject of conversation...Like I said the fact he won it all is surprising and even more impressive! You thinking they are same...nothing shocking there!
Nice response... I know the angle you are taking...
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 04:00:02 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:49:12 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 03:33:04 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:28:08 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 03:12:19 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:07:57 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 02:58:42 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 02:55:51 pm
I doubt it happens Mack Nolan bucked the status quo something NOBODY has ever really done up there. He must be punished in perpetuity! Heck it took dang near 20 years for them to honor the 94 team as if they did something wrong!
But he felt no need to "buck the system" till after he won the NC... He had to set the stage first and I guess he was just treated badly his first few years on the hill yet chose to stay and coach through it all.... LOL
OR he felt like how can I still be treated poorly after winning it all and felt things were never gonna change as long as the current leadership stayed. Sure he mis calculated he thought he had earned the right to speak out so he did.
Broyles connections built Bud Walton not Nolan's... How do you go against the man who hired you and put you in a brand new arena giving you the free run of the program? Broyles had way less involvement in basketball compared to the football program...
You mean the same man that plotted to fire him while his daughter laid dying in the hospital bed? The same man that because of his "connections" had the NCAA sniffing around on campus threatening to put UA on probation thereby running away recruits. The same man that thinks calling white people redneck is equal to calling black people N's and voices that opinion in public. The same man that actually lied on the witness stand during the trial. How could you go against such a man ???
The last sentence Frank had less involvement in the basketball program than the football program. YEP and look at the results of his less involvement Greatness vs Mediocrity!
I have never been a Broyles fan but don't for one minute think that I don't know what his imprtance was to the U of A where my son is at right now. I hated Broyles hands in the football program... And as far as the R word vs the N word, what makes one less derogatory than the other?
It's OK BG I got this. I promise to stay on track by saying that is why the NATION was so surprised that Nolan won a Championship at ARKANSAS. If we were still in in the 50's, 60's, and 70's I would expect that from Frank but for it to have been in the 90's and school administrator to use such a comparison at the dinner table as the subject of conversation...Like I said the fact he won it all is surprising and even more impressive! You thinking they are same...nothing shocking there!
Nice response... I know the angle you are taking...
What angle?
Quote from: B.G. on February 20, 2012, 03:59:50 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:56:12 pm
Quote from: B.G. on February 20, 2012, 03:51:56 pm
^^ ZD was asked and he answered on the "word". Now lets move back to a discussion that has stayed civil while disagreeing.
It'd be nice to debate/talk about stuff that has racial angles to it without the byproduct trash that often developes here.
Quote from: B.G. on February 20, 2012, 03:48:41 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 03:42:12 pm
The MAJOR part of UA basketball had gone by the wayside before Nolan was terminated. The door wasn't exactly lined up with hopefuls for the job when Heath was hired.... Heck the same goes for Pelphry... Who else wanted the job? One guy was even hired and quit the same day... LOL
And this was because of Nolan's loud trail of tears.
I recollect there were more people interested in the job after Nolan not so much after Heath and even less after Pel! However, Nolan had nothing to do with the guy accepting and rejecting the job the same day and heck he publicly endorse Pel and even requested that fans be patient. So these guys failed because they just couldn't cut it not because of Nolan's shadow!
Nolan did set us back and made things much harder than should have been the case 8 years removed from a title.
I in no way put the entire burden on him for Heath, Altman and Pel for things they could control. Just some. We should have been in a better position to hire someone better.
I can agree with that things should have been easier for us to get a good coach after Nolan but the Admin I think had more to do with it.
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 04:06:25 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 04:00:02 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:49:12 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 03:33:04 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:28:08 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 03:12:19 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:07:57 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 02:58:42 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 02:55:51 pm
I doubt it happens Mack Nolan bucked the status quo something NOBODY has ever really done up there. He must be punished in perpetuity! Heck it took dang near 20 years for them to honor the 94 team as if they did something wrong!
But he felt no need to "buck the system" till after he won the NC... He had to set the stage first and I guess he was just treated badly his first few years on the hill yet chose to stay and coach through it all.... LOL
OR he felt like how can I still be treated poorly after winning it all and felt things were never gonna change as long as the current leadership stayed. Sure he mis calculated he thought he had earned the right to speak out so he did.
Broyles connections built Bud Walton not Nolan's... How do you go against the man who hired you and put you in a brand new arena giving you the free run of the program? Broyles had way less involvement in basketball compared to the football program...
You mean the same man that plotted to fire him while his daughter laid dying in the hospital bed? The same man that because of his "connections" had the NCAA sniffing around on campus threatening to put UA on probation thereby running away recruits. The same man that thinks calling white people redneck is equal to calling black people N's and voices that opinion in public. The same man that actually lied on the witness stand during the trial. How could you go against such a man ???
The last sentence Frank had less involvement in the basketball program than the football program. YEP and look at the results of his less involvement Greatness vs Mediocrity!
I have never been a Broyles fan but don't for one minute think that I don't know what his imprtance was to the U of A where my son is at right now. I hated Broyles hands in the football program... And as far as the R word vs the N word, what makes one less derogatory than the other?
It's OK BG I got this. I promise to stay on track by saying that is why the NATION was so surprised that Nolan won a Championship at ARKANSAS. If we were still in in the 50's, 60's, and 70's I would expect that from Frank but for it to have been in the 90's and school administrator to use such a comparison at the dinner table as the subject of conversation...Like I said the fact he won it all is surprising and even more impressive! You thinking they are same...nothing shocking there!
Nice response... I know the angle you are taking...
What angle?
Exactly...
This was why coaches weren't flying to the Hill after Nolan left... It wasn't because of the Administration.... Twist it anyway you want....
1995-1996 Arkansas 20-13 9-7 T-2nd (West) NCAA Sweet 16
1996-1997 Arkansas 18-14 8-8 2nd (West) NIT Final Four
1997-1998 Arkansas 24-9 11-5 2nd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
1998-1999 Arkansas 23-11 9-7 2nd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
1999-2000 Arkansas 19-15 7-9 3rd (West) NCAA 1st Round
2000-2001 Arkansas 20-11 10-6 2nd (West) NCAA 1st Round
2001-2002 Arkansas 13-14† 5-10† T-4th (West) None
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Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:07:57 pm
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Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 02:55:51 pm
I doubt it happens Mack Nolan bucked the status quo something NOBODY has ever really done up there. He must be punished in perpetuity! Heck it took dang near 20 years for them to honor the 94 team as if they did something wrong!
But he felt no need to "buck the system" till after he won the NC... He had to set the stage first and I guess he was just treated badly his first few years on the hill yet chose to stay and coach through it all.... LOL
OR he felt like how can I still be treated poorly after winning it all and felt things were never gonna change as long as the current leadership stayed. Sure he mis calculated he thought he had earned the right to speak out so he did.
Broyles connections built Bud Walton not Nolan's... How do you go against the man who hired you and put you in a brand new arena giving you the free run of the program? Broyles had way less involvement in basketball compared to the football program...
You mean the same man that plotted to fire him while his daughter laid dying in the hospital bed? The same man that because of his "connections" had the NCAA sniffing around on campus threatening to put UA on probation thereby running away recruits. The same man that thinks calling white people redneck is equal to calling black people N's and voices that opinion in public. The same man that actually lied on the witness stand during the trial. How could you go against such a man ???
The last sentence Frank had less involvement in the basketball program than the football program. YEP and look at the results of his less involvement Greatness vs Mediocrity!
I have never been a Broyles fan but don't for one minute think that I don't know what his imprtance was to the U of A where my son is at right now. I hated Broyles hands in the football program... And as far as the R word vs the N word, what makes one less derogatory than the other?
It's OK BG I got this. I promise to stay on track by saying that is why the NATION was so surprised that Nolan won a Championship at ARKANSAS. If we were still in in the 50's, 60's, and 70's I would expect that from Frank but for it to have been in the 90's and school administrator to use such a comparison at the dinner table as the subject of conversation...Like I said the fact he won it all is surprising and even more impressive! You thinking they are same...nothing shocking there!
Nice response... I know the angle you are taking...
What angle?
Exactly...
I am afraid you have me at a disadvantage I am trying to communicate with words and you want to communicate in riddles. Say what's on you mind! You're among friends here! ;)
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 04:16:09 pm
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Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:07:57 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 02:58:42 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 02:55:51 pm
I doubt it happens Mack Nolan bucked the status quo something NOBODY has ever really done up there. He must be punished in perpetuity! Heck it took dang near 20 years for them to honor the 94 team as if they did something wrong!
But he felt no need to "buck the system" till after he won the NC... He had to set the stage first and I guess he was just treated badly his first few years on the hill yet chose to stay and coach through it all.... LOL
OR he felt like how can I still be treated poorly after winning it all and felt things were never gonna change as long as the current leadership stayed. Sure he mis calculated he thought he had earned the right to speak out so he did.
Broyles connections built Bud Walton not Nolan's... How do you go against the man who hired you and put you in a brand new arena giving you the free run of the program? Broyles had way less involvement in basketball compared to the football program...
You mean the same man that plotted to fire him while his daughter laid dying in the hospital bed? The same man that because of his "connections" had the NCAA sniffing around on campus threatening to put UA on probation thereby running away recruits. The same man that thinks calling white people redneck is equal to calling black people N's and voices that opinion in public. The same man that actually lied on the witness stand during the trial. How could you go against such a man ???
The last sentence Frank had less involvement in the basketball program than the football program. YEP and look at the results of his less involvement Greatness vs Mediocrity!
I have never been a Broyles fan but don't for one minute think that I don't know what his imprtance was to the U of A where my son is at right now. I hated Broyles hands in the football program... And as far as the R word vs the N word, what makes one less derogatory than the other?
It's OK BG I got this. I promise to stay on track by saying that is why the NATION was so surprised that Nolan won a Championship at ARKANSAS. If we were still in in the 50's, 60's, and 70's I would expect that from Frank but for it to have been in the 90's and school administrator to use such a comparison at the dinner table as the subject of conversation...Like I said the fact he won it all is surprising and even more impressive! You thinking they are same...nothing shocking there!
Nice response... I know the angle you are taking...
What angle?
Exactly...
I am afraid you have me at a disadvantage I am trying to communicate with words and you want to communicate in riddles. Say what's on you mind! You're among friends here! ;)
I have been.. Nolan is getting just what he deserves.... I would just as soon not see him at the games myself.....
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 04:13:32 pm
This was why coaches weren't flying to the Hill after Nolan left... It wasn't because of the Administration.... Twist it anyway you want....
1995-1996 Arkansas 20-13 9-7 T-2nd (West) NCAA Sweet 16
1996-1997 Arkansas 18-14 8-8 2nd (West) NIT Final Four
1997-1998 Arkansas 24-9 11-5 2nd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
1998-1999 Arkansas 23-11 9-7 2nd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
1999-2000 Arkansas 19-15 7-9 3rd (West) NCAA 1st Round
2000-2001 Arkansas 20-11 10-6 2nd (West) NCAA 1st Round
2001-2002 Arkansas 13-14† 5-10† T-4th (West) None
Who hired Nolan's replacements? So I think it would be fair to say they should bare most of the responsibility for a series of bad hires. That chart does little to prove that people should run from Arkansas because they weren't winning. In fact it proves had the dismissal of Nolan had been smoother there would have been a lot of big named coaches wanting the job.
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 04:23:04 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 04:13:32 pm
This was why coaches weren't flying to the Hill after Nolan left... It wasn't because of the Administration.... Twist it anyway you want....
1995-1996 Arkansas 20-13 9-7 T-2nd (West) NCAA Sweet 16
1996-1997 Arkansas 18-14 8-8 2nd (West) NIT Final Four
1997-1998 Arkansas 24-9 11-5 2nd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
1998-1999 Arkansas 23-11 9-7 2nd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
1999-2000 Arkansas 19-15 7-9 3rd (West) NCAA 1st Round
2000-2001 Arkansas 20-11 10-6 2nd (West) NCAA 1st Round
2001-2002 Arkansas 13-14† 5-10† T-4th (West) None
Who hired Nolan's replacements? So I think it would be fair to say they should bare most of the responsibility for a series of bad hires. That chart does little to prove that people should run from Arkansas because they weren't winning. In fact it proves had the dismissal of Nolan had been smoother there would have been a lot of big named coaches wanting the job.
I think Pel would have had about the same record the next 6 years also....
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 04:19:05 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 04:16:09 pm
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Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:28:08 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 03:12:19 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 03:07:57 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 02:58:42 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 02:55:51 pm
I doubt it happens Mack Nolan bucked the status quo something NOBODY has ever really done up there. He must be punished in perpetuity! Heck it took dang near 20 years for them to honor the 94 team as if they did something wrong!
But he felt no need to "buck the system" till after he won the NC... He had to set the stage first and I guess he was just treated badly his first few years on the hill yet chose to stay and coach through it all.... LOL
OR he felt like how can I still be treated poorly after winning it all and felt things were never gonna change as long as the current leadership stayed. Sure he mis calculated he thought he had earned the right to speak out so he did.
Broyles connections built Bud Walton not Nolan's... How do you go against the man who hired you and put you in a brand new arena giving you the free run of the program? Broyles had way less involvement in basketball compared to the football program...
You mean the same man that plotted to fire him while his daughter laid dying in the hospital bed? The same man that because of his "connections" had the NCAA sniffing around on campus threatening to put UA on probation thereby running away recruits. The same man that thinks calling white people redneck is equal to calling black people N's and voices that opinion in public. The same man that actually lied on the witness stand during the trial. How could you go against such a man ???
The last sentence Frank had less involvement in the basketball program than the football program. YEP and look at the results of his less involvement Greatness vs Mediocrity!
I have never been a Broyles fan but don't for one minute think that I don't know what his imprtance was to the U of A where my son is at right now. I hated Broyles hands in the football program... And as far as the R word vs the N word, what makes one less derogatory than the other?
It's OK BG I got this. I promise to stay on track by saying that is why the NATION was so surprised that Nolan won a Championship at ARKANSAS. If we were still in in the 50's, 60's, and 70's I would expect that from Frank but for it to have been in the 90's and school administrator to use such a comparison at the dinner table as the subject of conversation...Like I said the fact he won it all is surprising and even more impressive! You thinking they are same...nothing shocking there!
Nice response... I know the angle you are taking...
What angle?
Exactly...
I am afraid you have me at a disadvantage I am trying to communicate with words and you want to communicate in riddles. Say what's on you mind! You're among friends here! ;)
I have been.. Nolan is getting just what he deserves.... I would just as soon not see him at the games myself.....
That's over the top and unnecessary besides a case can equally be made that UA got what it deserved...years of basketball pergatory. You can't hurt Nolan without hurting the UA and vice versa. Mike is here and he will turn the program around. Nolan has done nothing to take the focus off of that and I see no need for fans do so either!
Which is exactly for now why he needs to stay out of the limelight. I however have no issue with his attendance. That was PB.
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 04:29:17 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 04:23:04 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 04:13:32 pm
This was why coaches weren't flying to the Hill after Nolan left... It wasn't because of the Administration.... Twist it anyway you want....
1995-1996 Arkansas 20-13 9-7 T-2nd (West) NCAA Sweet 16
1996-1997 Arkansas 18-14 8-8 2nd (West) NIT Final Four
1997-1998 Arkansas 24-9 11-5 2nd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
1998-1999 Arkansas 23-11 9-7 2nd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
1999-2000 Arkansas 19-15 7-9 3rd (West) NCAA 1st Round
2000-2001 Arkansas 20-11 10-6 2nd (West) NCAA 1st Round
2001-2002 Arkansas 13-14† 5-10† T-4th (West) None
Who hired Nolan's replacements? So I think it would be fair to say they should bare most of the responsibility for a series of bad hires. That chart does little to prove that people should run from Arkansas because they weren't winning. In fact it proves had the dismissal of Nolan had been smoother there would have been a lot of big named coaches wanting the job.
I think Pel would have had about the same record the next 6 years also....
I am afraid you would be one of a few that believe that. Pel for whatever reason was doing too much on the job training at times his teams didn't look like they knew what they were doing more importantly the players believed that Pel didn't know what he was doing! Even his team that went to the NCAA T. never looked like the fully understood what it was Pel wanted them to do!
Quote from: B.G. on February 20, 2012, 04:41:01 pm
Which is exactly for now why he needs to stay out of the limelight. I however have no issue with his attendance. That was PB.
I don't think Nolan is seeking the limelight and his attendance I think is a source of inspiration for Mike so as long as he being just a fan...leave the man alone!
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 04:51:23 pm
Quote from: B.G. on February 20, 2012, 04:41:01 pm
Which is exactly for now why he needs to stay out of the limelight. I however have no issue with his attendance. That was PB.
I don't think Nolan is seeking the limelight and his attendance I think is a source of inspiration for Mike so as long as he being just a fan...leave the man alone!
I didn't mean to imply he was. It's his(Nolan's) backers than need to just let things be as they are currently. Nolan is there for Mike for now and that's just fine.
It's the brewhaha over all the other stuff for him that bugs. Just dial down the 'honor him' stuff. It's good that he's there. No one needs to make anything more of it.
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 04:23:04 pm
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 04:13:32 pm
This was why coaches weren't flying to the Hill after Nolan left... It wasn't because of the Administration.... Twist it anyway you want....
1995-1996 Arkansas 20-13 9-7 T-2nd (West) NCAA Sweet 16
1996-1997 Arkansas 18-14 8-8 2nd (West) NIT Final Four
1997-1998 Arkansas 24-9 11-5 2nd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
1998-1999 Arkansas 23-11 9-7 2nd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
1999-2000 Arkansas 19-15 7-9 3rd (West) NCAA 1st Round
2000-2001 Arkansas 20-11 10-6 2nd (West) NCAA 1st Round
2001-2002 Arkansas 13-14† 5-10† T-4th (West) None
Who hired Nolan's replacements? So I think it would be fair to say they should bare most of the responsibility for a series of bad hires. That chart does little to prove that people should run from Arkansas because they weren't winning. In fact it proves had the dismissal of Nolan had been smoother there would have been a lot of big named coaches wanting the job.
Exactly. Even after the Nolan fiasco, Arkansas was still considered a high profile job. But the hiring process was completely screwed up by the administration. Bill Self and Tim Floyd wanted the job but JW insisted that candidates interview on campus, something coaches with jobs don't want to do for protection.
There's a reason why Dana Altman left after 24 hours on the job and it had little to do with the academic situation. Nolan is being used as the fallguy for the program's demise but it was the administration that paid $90,000 to a search firm to find a mid-major level coach with a sub-par record.
Quote from: B.G. on February 20, 2012, 11:16:25 am
It is possible to appreciate his work and to note his tanks comments as harmful. Where he's been and what he's been through has no bearing as to acknowledging his career with such high honors.
To award him such honors, you have to look at the entire contribution versus the harm he did down the strectch.
He tried and did partially destroy his own image and the UA itself through his own actions.. The UA doesn't owe him any more nor does he deserve any further awards.
Once again if Kentucky can name stuff for Adolph Rupp. Arkansas should have no problem dropping the uproar from 12 years ago with Nolan. There is nobody in the HISTORY OF ARKANSAS BASKETBALL to win and hang banners like Nolan. The better man forgives and moves on. The angry man wallows in pain and dies in disgust.
Wow not even I said Nolan was wallowing but well put HH.
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 08:20:27 pm
Wow not even I said Nolan was wallowing but well put HH.
Remember PB you're the one disgusted at him. The one who can't stand him. The one who just wishes he would go away. The one who wish he'd at least wear Red Hog Gear to the game. So who's wallowing more than you ? LOL ! Nolan lives in the area, he can go to any UA basketball game he wants too. So stay angry my friend. LOL !
Okay you got me. Grrrrr!!! How is that NWBA job going??
Quote from: pantherblue on February 20, 2012, 08:52:35 pm
Okay you got me. Grrrrr!!! How is that NWBA job going??
Good enough to where he doesn't need it. How's your job ? WNBA Job dude. You're so mad you can't type ! LOL !
My job is pretty stellar. Big window office and close to the door with several golfing afternoons and big corporate tournaments every year. LOL. Oh seriously?? LOL. I wasn't sure what the women's monicker was. Never even watched a game nor ever will.
Quote from: pantherblue on February 21, 2012, 12:06:50 am
My job is pretty stellar. Big window office and close to the door with several golfing afternoons and big corporate tournaments every year. LOL. Oh seriously?? LOL. I wasn't sure what the women's monicker was. Never even watched a game nor ever will.
But you re mad enough to keep up with Nolan and knew he coached a WNBA team I see. LOL !
Quote from: Hoghead on February 21, 2012, 01:30:30 am
Quote from: pantherblue on February 21, 2012, 12:06:50 am
My job is pretty stellar. Big window office and close to the door with several golfing afternoons and big corporate tournaments every year. LOL. Oh seriously?? LOL. I wasn't sure what the women's monicker was. Never even watched a game nor ever will.
But you re mad enough to keep up with Nolan and knew he coached a WNBA team I see. LOL !
Not that's what the media keeps shoving down my tv just like him being at the game Saturday in his non-razorback attire... LOL
Quote from: B.G. on February 20, 2012, 05:06:25 pm
Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2012, 04:51:23 pm
Quote from: B.G. on February 20, 2012, 04:41:01 pm
Which is exactly for now why he needs to stay out of the limelight. I however have no issue with his attendance. That was PB.
I don't think Nolan is seeking the limelight and his attendance I think is a source of inspiration for Mike so as long as he being just a fan...leave the man alone!
I didn't mean to imply he was. It's his(Nolan's) backers than need to just let things be as they are currently. Nolan is there for Mike for now and that's just fine.
It's the brewhaha over all the other stuff for him that bugs. Just dial down the 'honor him' stuff. It's good that he's there. No one needs to make anything more of it.
Well, we'll agree that this stuff bugs.
Quote from: pantherblue on February 21, 2012, 07:59:50 am
Quote from: Hoghead on February 21, 2012, 01:30:30 am
Quote from: pantherblue on February 21, 2012, 12:06:50 am
My job is pretty stellar. Big window office and close to the door with several golfing afternoons and big corporate tournaments every year. LOL. Oh seriously?? LOL. I wasn't sure what the women's monicker was. Never even watched a game nor ever will.
But you re mad enough to keep up with Nolan and knew he coached a WNBA team I see. LOL !
Not that's what the media keeps shoving down my tv just like him being at the game Saturday in his non-razorback attire... LOL
A 60+ year old man wears whatever he wants to a game !
That looks to be 60++. LOL
Quote from: pantherblue on February 22, 2012, 01:41:07 am
That looks to be 60++. LOL
Haha, you are right behind him blue beard. I myself would like to see a Nolan image imprinted at halfcourt. Now that 's just me talking. Suckers!
Quote from: InYoGrill on February 22, 2012, 07:51:55 am
Quote from: pantherblue on February 22, 2012, 01:41:07 am
That looks to be 60++. LOL
Haha, you are right behind him blue beard. I myself would like to see a Nolan image imprinted at halfcourt. Now that 's just me talking. Suckers!
Post a picture of that tatoo you have of Nolan on your little red belly!!!! LOL
You know, before Eddie Sutton Arkansas basketball was an after thought. Sutton got it rolling and then Nolan took to another level. I really have alot of respect for Nolan and what he accomplished. At the end though he was just off the charts, kinda like Frank. Both should have retired earlier and let their legacies remain totally intact without the BS. Mike is Mike...he isn't Nolan. I think people should just let Mike do his thing and he will be fine. I wonder sometimes if Nolan looking over his shoulder makes him nervous...
Painful season right now.
Nolan's first year was 12 wins.
MA first year is already 17. Who knows how he will finish.
Its apples to oranges I know but he has to build it.
The sky has fallen. Arkansas has finally won a road game. Arkansas 77 Auburn 71
A road win anywhere is better than any loss ! I know this had to be a nice flight home for these young bunch of Hogs !!!!! Congrats !!!
Thank the big man above!!
18 wins for MA so far. A bunch of Freshmen and underclassmen have done well if you ask me. They don't have a seasoned BIG MAN or a shooter. In the SEC that's a tough ride. Proud of MA and these Hogs !
Quote from: Hoghead on February 26, 2012, 04:58:05 am
18 wins for MA so far. A bunch of Freshmen and underclassmen have done well if you ask me. They don't have a seasoned BIG MAN or a shooter. In the SEC that's a tough ride. Proud of MA and these Hogs !
I concur
I have absolute faith in the Razorbacks. 18 wins so far in Mike's first season on the Hill, not too shabby. Saying the team is young is so cliche, but it's true. This team is dominated by Freshmen. Very good freshmen at that. I just wish the Hogs could get some more inside presense. I think once we get some of Mike's recruits to go in there and complement the current players, the Arkansas Razorbacks will be back in National Prominence.
It's already been fun watching this year. They can only get better! WPS!
Someone the Hogs should consider recruiting..........
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/somehow-minnesota-star-anders-broman-scores-71-points-200757408.html
Ole Miss......puuuuuuuuuuke !
Blah...ugh.
Heck of a dunk though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=r5M2vZns5c4
Quote from: Rattlerfan2004 on February 27, 2012, 11:10:30 am
I have absolute faith in the Razorbacks. 18 wins so far in Mike's first season on the Hill, not too shabby. Saying the team is young is so cliche, but it's true. This team is dominated by Freshmen. Very good freshmen at that. I just wish the Hogs could get some more inside presense. I think once we get some of Mike's recruits to go in there and complement the current players, the Arkansas Razorbacks will be back in National Prominence.
It's already been fun watching this year. They can only get better! WPS!
Man,,, if's, buts, candy and nuts,,,,,,,, if we had a healthy Marshawn and chickenpoo Clarke had not left, we would have made the NCAA T this year.
When MA gets about two more years under his belt, we will regain our place at the big table.
Man,,,, Football, Baseball, Basketball, Track, women's Basketball, Gymnastics,,,, what a great time to be a Razorback fan.
Rotnei was a bigger lose than marshawn
Quote from: rattler60 on March 02, 2012, 09:50:59 pm
Rotnei was a bigger lose than marshawn
One guy gets hurt and loses his season to injury is NOT a LOSER ! Marshawn is still a HOG. The other individual transfers to Butler in his Sr. year is to never be mentioned as a HOG ever again in life !
Dear lord I'm ready for nobles and Sanchez to turn their uniforms in.
Quote from: AW on March 03, 2012, 04:42:49 pm
Dear lord I'm ready for nobles and Sanchez to turn their uniforms in.
this
Sidney is the laziest sack of crap I've ever watched play basketball for miss st.
Quote from: AW on March 03, 2012, 04:42:49 pm
Dear lord I'm ready for nobles and Sanchez to turn their uniforms in.
Sanchez is the UA record holder for most missed shots at point blank range. Nobles holds the UA record for most unneeded shots ever taken !
Quote from: AW on March 03, 2012, 04:51:18 pm
Sidney is the laziest sack of crap I've ever watched play basketball for miss st.
And even he outhustled us in the game yesterday. Its astounding to see three red jerseys right near the basket just standing watching an opposing player get the rebound or slam dunk without one guy challenging him. I would have a hard time picking Sanchez to play on my team in regular streetball. I'm just ready to put this season out of its misery.
Quote from: Romeo on January 08, 2012, 12:48:19 pm
Apparently now were still in contact with Aaron Ross, who's enrolled in prep school in Minnesota. He's reportedly getting better and is going to qualify for next season.
http://www.arkansassports360.com/29999/former-parkview-standout-aaron-ross-committed-to-texas-tech
As far as Aaron Ross and others like him I have no time for them. Going to JC to qualify?? They had 12 years in HS and obviously didn't think it was very important. Doesn't speak much for their character.
I never expected to see Ross in a Hog uniform.
Me either. Wish the kid well.
Quote from: pantherblue on March 07, 2012, 06:50:07 pm
As far as Aaron Ross and others like him I have no time for them. Going to JC to qualify?? They had 12 years in HS and obviously didn't think it was very important. Doesn't speak much for their character.
That's not very fair. A kid that struggles at school and goes to JC to qualify automatically has bad character? Marshawn Powell literally dropped out of school at one point and barely was able to qualify to go to UA, but apparently he automatically has better character than someone that didn't. I think it would speak a lot for their character to not be willing to give up and keeping working to qualify while pursuing their degree.
He knew he needed the grades. They all do but think its not the cool thing to do.
Quote from: pantherblue on March 07, 2012, 06:50:07 pm
As far as Aaron Ross and others like him I have no time for them. Going to JC to qualify?? They had 12 years in HS and obviously didn't think it was very important. Doesn't speak much for their character.
Ron Brewer Sr. went the JC route to Arkansas. Sonny Weems, LENZIE HOWELL and a few others did well at Arkansas via the JC route. Seriously PB, do you really care about if they graduate ? I mean eligibility is more your concern than character isn't it ?
I think sports as a whole is out of control in this country. Kids are being spoon fed through college just to play sports while those that really want an education are shelling out close to 20k a year to go and some places more. Most are strapped with student loans for years after college. Many athletes who make it pro and didn't do anything in school are broke by the time their career is over. Too bad they didn't take advantage of a great education just handed to them.
Quote from: pantherblue on March 08, 2012, 04:19:43 am
I think sports as a whole is out of control in this country. Kids are being spoon fed through college just to play sports while those that really want an education are shelling out close to 20k a year to go and some places more. Most are strapped with student loans for years after college. Many athletes who make it pro and didn't do anything in school are broke by the time their career is over. Too bad they didn't take advantage of a great education just handed to them.
Amen. Look at how many go bankrupt because of stupid decisions they make. Saw where Marshall Faulk had to foreclose today on the news. Read where the Jenkins kid from Florida/North Alabama has 8 kids by 7 different women. Keith Brooking scheming to screw a bank over a loan, Antonio Cromartie has 9 kids by 8 different women and had to request a 500k loan to help bail him out of child support dues in the offseason ETC ETC. Have the world of opportunity at their hands and find some way to screw it up.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2110675/Terrell-Owens-risks-jail-pay-monthly-child-support-blowing-80million-earned-NFL.html
Another Idiot. All the talent in the world but not a dang lick of sense about him.
Quote from: AW on March 08, 2012, 04:51:54 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2110675/Terrell-Owens-risks-jail-pay-monthly-child-support-blowing-80million-earned-NFL.html
Another Idiot. All the talent in the world but not a dang lick of sense about him.
He's a complete superstar !
Read where BJ young is filing for the draft without hiring an agent. Still makes me nervous but surely he won't jump ship. Sigh.
It is what it is. Money, Money, Money !
Quote from: AW on March 30, 2012, 09:08:09 pm
Read where BJ young is filing for the draft without hiring an agent. Still makes me nervous but surely he won't jump ship. Sigh.
I don't think he is going anywhere this year..
Quote from: Billyo62 on April 01, 2012, 10:27:24 am
Quote from: AW on March 30, 2012, 09:08:09 pm
Read where BJ young is filing for the draft without hiring an agent. Still makes me nervous but surely he won't jump ship. Sigh.
I don't think he is going anywhere this year..
If he does it will be Scotty Thurman all over again. He's not ready.
Heard on drive time just now that Nobles wants out. MA will have practically a whole new team next year.
Not sure whether he wanted to leave on his own or if he was basically asked to leave. Mike Anderson and the staff have been on the recruiting trail hard this offseason and might be adding at least three newcomers. The hogs need a true point guard bad. There's been a lot a talk lately about Dee Wagner committing to the hogs. He's a guard from Louisiana who was recently named Mr. Basketball for the state.
I appreciate Nobles effort the last three years but he just never was the true point guard we needed. He had some good moments but unfortunately his bad outweighed his good.
Apparently it now appears Dee Wagner is going to replace Nobles. Looks like it was more of a personnel decision for Anderson.
Quote from: Romeo on April 04, 2012, 10:34:40 pm
Apparently it now appears Dee Wagner is going to replace Nobles. Looks like it was more of a personnel decision for Anderson.
I figure MA is very vocal to his team about who he wants there, how they are going to play, what is expected of them, etc. Nobles never looked like he fit in in the MA system.
I appreciate him in his three years here in enduring alot of bull. I wish the kid luck.
Quote from: Billyo62 on April 01, 2012, 10:27:24 am
Quote from: AW on March 30, 2012, 09:08:09 pm
Read where BJ young is filing for the draft without hiring an agent. Still makes me nervous but surely he won't jump ship. Sigh.
I don't think he is going anywhere this year..
I hope not Billy.
BJ Young just announced at a banquet tonight he's coming back for his sophomore season.
Former LR Central player Alandise Harris (6-6, 230) transferring to Arkansas from Houston. Was Houston's second leading scorer this past season averaging 13.8 ppg. Scored 18 points against Arkansas last November. He'll try to get a waiver to play immediately due to his mother passing.
Quote from: Romeo on April 10, 2012, 04:49:19 pm
Former LR Central player Alandise Harris (6-6, 230) transferring to Arkansas from Houston. Was Houston's second leading scorer this past season averaging 13.8 ppg. Scored 18 points against Arkansas last November. He'll try to get a waiver to play immediately due to his mother passing.
Hate the situation for he and his family, but welcome home as a hog.
The Dee Wagner kid from LA signed today as well.
I watched Hog Commit Dederrick Lee today for the 5 time in the past few months. Before everybody jumps down my throat about be a "hater" or something ridiculous, I played with his older brother CJ on a traveling team that his dad helped coach a few years back. I like the kid and I have a lot of respect for their family.
That being said... This kid isnt D1. Not right now at least. I wouldnt be surprised in the least to see Anderson take the scholarship back from him and him end up at a UCA or Tulsa or something like that. He has some upside. He is a decent shooter and has a very quick realease. He is decently quick with the ball. But he cant guard a stump and he isnt smart at all. I would take either of his little brothers over him if they were a few inches taller. He just doesnt have it... Its going to take a tremendous summer IMO for him to make it to the big leagues. He isnt a PG and he is way to small to be a SG. We will see what happens... I just dont see it.
Quote from: krik6 on April 15, 2012, 11:28:53 pm
I watched Hog Commit Dederrick Lee today for the 5 time in the past few months. Before everybody jumps down my throat about be a "hater" or something ridiculous, I played with his older brother CJ on a traveling team that his dad helped coach a few years back. I like the kid and I have a lot of respect for their family.
That being said... This kid isnt D1. Not right now at least. I wouldnt be surprised in the least to see Anderson take the scholarship back from him and him end up at a UCA or Tulsa or something like that. He has some upside. He is a decent shooter and has a very quick realease. He is decently quick with the ball. But he cant guard a stump and he isnt smart at all. I would take either of his little brothers over him if they were a few inches taller. He just doesnt have it... Its going to take a tremendous summer IMO for him to make it to the big leagues. He isnt a PG and he is way to small to be a SG. We will see what happens... I just dont see it.
You're not the only person whose had that opinion on Lee. I think MA pulled the trigger a little too early offering him a scholarship.
Quote from: Romeo on April 16, 2012, 12:03:08 am
Quote from: krik6 on April 15, 2012, 11:28:53 pm
I watched Hog Commit Dederrick Lee today for the 5 time in the past few months. Before everybody jumps down my throat about be a "hater" or something ridiculous, I played with his older brother CJ on a traveling team that his dad helped coach a few years back. I like the kid and I have a lot of respect for their family.
That being said... This kid isnt D1. Not right now at least. I wouldnt be surprised in the least to see Anderson take the scholarship back from him and him end up at a UCA or Tulsa or something like that. He has some upside. He is a decent shooter and has a very quick realease. He is decently quick with the ball. But he cant guard a stump and he isnt smart at all. I would take either of his little brothers over him if they were a few inches taller. He just doesnt have it... Its going to take a tremendous summer IMO for him to make it to the big leagues. He isnt a PG and he is way to small to be a SG. We will see what happens... I just dont see it.
You're not the only person whose had that opinion on Lee. I think MA pulled the trigger a little too early offering him a scholarship.
There is always a lot of pressure to get "the best player in the state" on campus. I think MA just threw offers at Dederrick and Bobby Portis of Hall when he got the job because they are touted by almost everybody to be the top two players in the state for that class. I havent seen Portis in Person but I hope to sometime this summer of next season. Dederrick is a proven scorer and winner. I watched him my senior year at West Fork drop 23 points on us in the 1st half as a freshman and our guys were ranked 4th in the 4A at the time. It was impressive to say the least. But I dont think he has gotten much more talented since then. He has just added some height and a little strength. I do think he has the potential still... But he is gonna have to commit to playing the 1. He doesnt really fit any position. He is just a ball player. In Highschool and AAU you can get away with that but at the next level he will struggle if he plans on staying the same kind of player he is now.
New Rivals150 was released today. Portis moved up from #82 to #56 player in the nation. Lee moved out of the top 150. Last year he was in the 80-90 range.
Quote from: Romeo on April 18, 2012, 08:22:23 pm
New Rivals150 was released today. Portis moved up from #82 to #56 player in the nation. Lee moved out of the top 150. Last year he was in the 80-90 range.
Im not surprised. Lee was 98. I would really like to see Portis.
Quote from: krik6 on April 19, 2012, 12:46:07 am
Quote from: Romeo on April 18, 2012, 08:22:23 pm
New Rivals150 was released today. Portis moved up from #82 to #56 player in the nation. Lee moved out of the top 150. Last year he was in the 80-90 range.
Im not surprised. Lee was 98. I would really like to see Portis.
Portis might eventually become a 5 star. A lot of scouts are starting to take notice. He was very impressive this weekend in the EYBL tournament. One problem though is that he's starting to get strong attention from Kentucky. Another problem is that Stefan Welsh is "allegedly" trying to get into the handler business and is "allegedly" telling Arkansas recruits to go elsewhere.
I hope he sticks with his decision
BB signing class now complete with the commitment of Coty Clarke today. Small forward out of Birmingham. Averaged 14 points and 13 rebounds at JUCO. Had offers from Memphis, Auburn, Georgia, Mississippi State and others. This is how the team will probably look next season:
Guards
B.J. Young Soph 6-3 175, MO 5 star
Rashad Madden Soph 6-5 175, AR 4 star
Rickey Scott Jr 6-3 202, TX 4 star
Mardracus Wade Jr 6-2 175, Memphis 3 star
Dee Wagner Fr 5-11 165, LA 3 star
Anthlon Bell Fr 6-3 180, Memphis 3 star
Forwards
Devonta Abron Soph 6-8 255, TX 3 star
Hunter Mickelson Soph 6-10 235, AR 4 star
Marshawn Powell Jr 6-7 235, VA 4 star
JaCorey Williams Fr 6-8 185, AL 3 star
Michael Qualls Fr 6-5 190, LA 3 star
Alandise Harris Jr 6-6 230, AR no rating
Coty Clarke Jr 6-7 220, AL 3 star
Walk-Ons
Kikko Haydar Jr
Fred Gulley Jr
Gulley isn't a walk on.
DeVonta Abron has been released from scholarship and will transfer.
Hogs to play in a Vegas tournament
Along with Creighton, Arizona St and Wisconsin.
http://arkansasbuzz.net/3526/basketball-razorbacks-to-play-in-2012-las-vegas-invite/
Arkansas commit Bobby Portis rated number 12 overall in the newest ESPN top 100 for 2013. Highest commitment Arkansas has had since Al Jefferson. http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/class/2013/order/true
Just heard from one of the guys that they were just told that Syracuse is coming to Fayetteville on Nov.30. Not sure if that is set in stone yet or not but it came from coach Anderson about 10 minutes ago. That will be a great test.
Yep
http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=30746&SPID=2421&DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=205435623&DB_OEM_ID=6100
Syracuse is apparently griping about playing us saying they are overcommitted and can't play in the Big East Challenge. Note that Syracuse rarely plays any non-conference games outside of New York. They never play on anyone else homecourt unless its a conference challenge game.
Senior year highlights of Michael Qualls, incoming freshman for Arkansas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQwD-wUvklA
Not to bad of a ball player can shoot the three and throw it down. Athletic. Hope he does the same for the hogs.
What is going on with Aaron ross
Quote from: rattler60 on June 12, 2012, 07:10:36 pm
What is going on with Aaron ross
Ross signed with Texas Tech.
Poor guy
Apparently Dederick Lee has decomitted from Arkansas and is opening up his recruiting. http://recruiting.arpreps.com/2012/06/14/lee-opens-up-his-recruiting/
Is he from clarkesville
Yeah. Class of 2013.
Quote from: krik6 on April 15, 2012, 11:28:53 pm
That being said... This kid isnt D1. Not right now at least. I wouldnt be surprised in the least to see Anderson take the scholarship back from him and him end up at a UCA or Tulsa or something like that. He has some upside. He is a decent shooter and has a very quick realease. He is decently quick with the ball. But he cant guard a stump and he isnt smart at all. I would take either of his little brothers over him if they were a few inches taller. He just doesnt have it... Its going to take a tremendous summer IMO for him to make it to the big leagues. He isnt a PG and he is way to small to be a SG. We will see what happens... I just dont see it.
Nailed it
That is what I'm thinking also
Quote from: krik6 on June 14, 2012, 06:48:00 pm
Quote from: krik6 on April 15, 2012, 11:28:53 pm
That being said... This kid isnt D1. Not right now at least. I wouldnt be surprised in the least to see Anderson take the scholarship back from him and him end up at a UCA or Tulsa or something like that. He has some upside. He is a decent shooter and has a very quick realease. He is decently quick with the ball. But he cant guard a stump and he isnt smart at all. I would take either of his little brothers over him if they were a few inches taller. He just doesnt have it... Its going to take a tremendous summer IMO for him to make it to the big leagues. He isnt a PG and he is way to small to be a SG. We will see what happens... I just dont see it.
Nailed it
You nailed it. I doubt it was 100% Lee's decision to decommit.
Idk the situation of scholarships but its a little odd to me that the day after D. Lee "Decommits" we get a commitment from 6'9 210 C Moses Kingsley who is a consensus top 100 player. (56 on ESPN. 96 on Rivals)
Just saying
Quote from: krik6 on June 15, 2012, 03:13:57 pm
Idk the situation of scholarships but its a little odd to me that the day after D. Lee "Decommits" we get a commitment from 6'9 210 C Moses Kingsley who is a consensus top 100 player. (56 on ESPN. 96 on Rivals)
Just saying
That report was false. Kingsley hasn't committed.
Quote from: Romeo on June 15, 2012, 03:29:08 pm
Quote from: krik6 on June 15, 2012, 03:13:57 pm
Idk the situation of scholarships but its a little odd to me that the day after D. Lee "Decommits" we get a commitment from 6'9 210 C Moses Kingsley who is a consensus top 100 player. (56 on ESPN. 96 on Rivals)
Just saying
That report was false. Kingsley hasn't committed.
Correct, it's amazing these days how fast bad info can pass through the internets!
Weird... I got it from the Arkansas Razorback recruiting twitter account lol dummys