Anyone want to take a stab at a TOP 10 on the BOYS side?
look for gentry to be a sleeper this yr
1. Mills
2. Blytheville
3. Harrison
4. Magnolia
5. EStem
6. Pottsville
7. PA
8. Robinson
9. Morrilton
10. Huntsville
I may be wrong by some accounts but here is an early look.
Quote from: wait4it on November 30, 2018, 11:24:05 am
1. Mills
2. Blytheville
3. Harrison
4. Magnolia
5. EStem
6. Pottsville
7. PA
8. Robinson
9. Morrilton
10. Huntsville
I may be wrong by some accounts but here is an early look.
out of curiouisity, what do you see in huntsville?
Quote from: bigboygottaeat on November 30, 2018, 11:26:09 am
out of curiouisity, what do you see in huntsville?
Just an early ranking....they are 4-1
Not sure on some of the teams I haven't seen play , but I will give it a shot.
1. LR Mills
2 Estem
3 Westside
3 Bytheville
4 Harrison
5 Magnolla
6 Pottsville
7 PA
8 Morrilton
9 Robinson
10 Stuttgart
Quote from: NEA Razorback olfan on November 30, 2018, 12:24:53 pm
Not sure on some of the teams I haven't seen play , but I will give it a shot.
1 Jonesboro Westside
2 LR Mills
3 Bytheville
4 Harrison
5 Magnolla
6 Pottsville
7 PA
8 Morrilton
9 Robinson
10 Brookland
i see that eStem is not in your top 10. Westside and Brookland that good?
Well , I'm not real sure,
Westside 3-1 was State runner-up last year and brings back their core
Just lost to 7a Bryant last night 57-74
Brookland is 3-1 with wins over Riverview, Manila, and a loss to Baptist Prep 52-66
Will update my list as we get more into season
Thanks for making the boys top 10 wait4it
Looks like Pottsville will play Harrison and Morriliton this season so that should help. Pottsville looks like a team to contend this year. They are 8 deep with 6"2" to 6'6" players (max prep says on 6'8" but I did not see him anywhere). They have 4 or 5 that can shoot the 3 very well and can all score inside. Looking forward to a good year.
Huntsville ahead of PR & Shiloh ??
1 LR Mills
2 eSTEM
3 Westside
4 Bytheville
5 Harrison
6 Pea Ridge
7 Pottsville
8 Brookland
9 PA
10 Stuttgart
1 Mills
2 Westside
3 Harrison
4 Forrest City
5 Blytheville
6 ESTEM
7 Brookland
8 PA
9 Sttugart
10 Magnolia.
Quote from: godeep on December 04, 2018, 10:15:53 pm
1 Mills
2 Westside
3 Harrison
4 Forrest City
5 Blytheville
6 ESTEM
7 Brookland
8 PA
9 Sttugart
10 Magnolia.
I see Magnolia has cracked your top 10. They posted an impressive defensive performance against Benton last night.
1 Mills
2 Westside
3 Harrison
4 Forrest City
5 ESTEM
6 Brookland
7 PA
8 Blytheville
9 Magnolia
10 Monticello
Quote from: wait4it on December 05, 2018, 12:28:55 pm
I see Magnolia has cracked your top 10. They posted an impressive defensive performance against Benton last night.
1 Mills
2 Westside
3 Harrison
4 Forrest City
5 ESTEM
6 Brookland
7 PA
8 Blytheville
9 Magnolia
10 Monticello
Watched Blytheville play last night, they'd beat 4-7 easily. Brookland would and will get mercy ruled. They are legit. Play D and 2 really good shooters. They beat Jonesboro in a charity games earlier this year by about 10. They can go.
Why do I keep seeing Brookland in some people's top ten? Did they return everyone from the team last year that benefited from having the state tourney at their house? ....oh wait.
Nah. I heard Coach Gross is benching 250 now. Got his kids pretty fired up for the new season.
Quote from: J12 on December 05, 2018, 04:52:53 pm
Nah. I heard Coach Gross is benching 250 now. Got his kids pretty fired up for the new season.
Oh. Now I understand.
Quote from: J12 on December 05, 2018, 04:52:53 pm
Nah. I heard Coach Gross is benching 250 now. Got his kids pretty fired up for the new season.
I never asked Coach how much he could bench, thanks for the information though...all I know is the Brookland Boys work hard every time they hit the floor, most of the time are outsized and have to play defense as a solid unit. They are unselfish and distribute the ball well to the open player, They take charges , Dive on the floor for loose balls, and hustle on every play.
So I agree, they probably don't belong in the top 10
I heard Westside beat blytheville is there any truth to it
Quote from: biglion1985 on December 05, 2018, 08:59:00 pm
I heard Westside beat blytheville is there any truth to it
Westside won 61-48
Quote from: NEA Razorback olfan on December 05, 2018, 06:45:54 pm
I never asked Coach how much he could bench, thanks for the information though...all I know is the Brookland Boys work hard every time they hit the floor, most of the time are outsized and have to play defense as a solid unit. They are unselfish and distribute the ball well to the open player, They take charges , Dive on the floor for loose balls, and hustle on every play.
So I agree, they probably don't belong in the top 10
Sounds like a fun team to watch. Maybe they'll hang around long enough for more people to see this year. Do they have everything back from last year?
Lots of opinions for a young season. I cant wait till there are more games behind and the Christmas tournament season.
PS I dont see any teams from 4A-7 in the top 10.
Quote from: Charlie1001 on December 05, 2018, 09:30:32 pm
Sounds like a fun team to watch. Maybe they'll hang around long enough for more people to see this year. Do they have everything back from last year?
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Yes sir, they were young last year , started 2 freshman.
We did get a lefty guard move in this year.
Battle at The Ridge tournament starts today at 4
Joe T Robinson vs Bearden
Estem vs Neosho
Pea Ridge vs Mcdonald County
Berryville vs Providence Academy
Quote from: Hawk4L on December 06, 2018, 09:43:13 am
Battle at The Ridge tournament starts today at 4
Joe T Robinson vs Bearden
Estem vs Neosho
Pea Ridge vs Mcdonald County
Berryville vs Providence Academy
Where is this tournament?
Quote from: NEA Razorback olfan on December 05, 2018, 06:45:54 pm
I never asked Coach how much he could bench, thanks for the information though...all I know is the Brookland Boys work hard every time they hit the floor, most of the time are outsized and have to play defense as a solid unit. They are unselfish and distribute the ball well to the open player, They take charges , Dive on the floor for loose balls, and hustle on every play.
So I agree, they probably don't belong in the top 10
You forgot to mention the cheap fouls, dirty plays, and mercy rules. But continue.
Quote from: wait4it on December 06, 2018, 10:14:24 am
Where is this tournament?
Pea Ridge. "Battle at the Ridge" it's an annual tourn. 3rd year for it
Quote from: J12 on December 06, 2018, 02:32:18 pm
You forgot to mention the cheap fouls, dirty plays, and mercy rules. But continue.
Nope your on a roll , keep going I'm listening
Mills is getting revenge on LR Central tonight. In control from early in the 1st.
64-44 Final
Quote from: NEA Razorback olfan on December 06, 2018, 06:12:15 pm
Nope your on a roll , keep going I'm listening
You're*
It's all good.
Do you think Westside will stay undefeated in their new gym on Monday?
Quote from: J12 on December 06, 2018, 08:37:24 pm
You're*
It's all good.
Do you think Westside will stay undefeated in their new gym on Monday?
I think Westside has a great team, they may go undefeated the rest of the season, who knows?
I have no ill will toward Westside.
I just like to watch good games.
Quote from: J12 on December 06, 2018, 02:32:18 pm
You forgot to mention the cheap fouls, dirty plays, and mercy rules. But continue.
I've been a football and basketball fan in NEA for a long time and I don't think Westside is known for keeping things classy 😂
Any changes in your TOP 10?
1 Mills
2 Westside
3 Harrison
4 Forrest City
5 Blytheville
6 ESTEM
7 Brookland
8 McClellan
9 Magnolia
10 Anybody.
1 Mills--slow start but picking up steam
2 Westside--looking impressive, could make a run
3 Harrison--would like to see them against Mills or Westside
4 Forrest City--could contend if they stay healthy
5 ESTEM--hard to judge. playing well right now.
6 Blytheville--couple of close games and losses
7 Brookland--they may scare some folks, watch out
8 McClellan--in tough conference with eStem and Mills
9 Magnolia--starting 2 freshmen, good defense
10 Monticello--may challenge in regional tournament and state.
I'm a Westside homer through and through but this is Mills' to lose. Hope I'm wrong.
Blytheville is well coached, super athletic, and a couple guys who can really shoot. They will make noise.
As far as the other regions, I just don't see it, or haven't over the last few years. There will be a couple of teams who will come out of regular season with great records, but no competition played.
Quote from: wait4it on December 13, 2018, 08:48:19 am
1 Mills--slow start but picking up steam
2 Westside--looking impressive, could make a run
3 Harrison--would like to see them against Mills or Westside
4 Forrest City--could contend if they stay healthy
5 ESTEM--hard to judge. playing well right now.
6 Blytheville--couple of close games and losses
7 Brookland--they may scare some folks, watch out
8 McClellan--in tough conference with eStem and Mills
9 Magnolia--starting 2 freshmen, good defense
10 Monticello--may challenge in regional tournament and state.
Which two freshman? I thought 3 might. Ford and Garland?
i think they started 3 in beginning. have two starting and one off the bench....
Mills at Forrest City tonight. Over/Under 140.
Quote from: godeep on December 14, 2018, 09:41:21 am
Mills at Forrest City tonight. Over/Under 140.
over...i would almost say over 160
Quote from: wait4it on December 14, 2018, 10:31:48 am
over...i would almost say over 160
Any big names out of forrest city this year?
Mills 68
Forrest City 63
What a battle. I want to see 2 better teams in 4A. Westside with their shooting ability will compete with anyone.
1. Mills
2. Jonesboro Westside
3. Forrest City
4. McClellan
5. ESTEM
6. Blytheville
7. Pulaski Academy
8. Pottsville
9. Harrison
10. Pea Ridge
Thats what I see right now
ESTEM
Robinson
Pea Ridge
Pottsville
Blytheville
Harrison
Quote from: J12 on December 13, 2018, 09:37:32 am
I'm a Westside homer through and through but this is Mills' to lose. Hope I'm wrong.
Blytheville is well coached, super athletic, and a couple guys who can really shoot. They will make noise.
As far as the other regions, I just don't see it, or haven't over the last few years. There will be a couple of teams who will come out of regular season with great records, but no competition played.
You're correct about it being Mills to lose. They are by far the favorite. Forrest City, eStem, Stuttgart are all very, very solid squads. I wouldn't be shocked at all to see 4 teams from that side make the state tournament. This includes there 4 seed beating Westside.
I couldn't disagree more about Blytheville being well coached. They are athletic sure and have some streaky shooters but they will be outcoached against the likes of Brookland, Westisde, Highland from their own conference. They are most definitely not better than any of the top four on the other side.
I'm not seeing Brookland being a top 10 team. They lack consistent shooters from outside. Zero size on the inside. Their defense will keep them in several games. I'd expect them to be bounced in first round of regionals by 10+.
I keep seeing folks post about Harrison? I know nothing about them. What makes them special?
Also, Pea Ridge returns a couple folks. Been very successful over the last few years.
I'm obviously not from Blytheville as you can tell from my name, and I'm not here to necessarily defend them but what makes you think they are not any better than the top four out of the other side. They do have wins against Jonesboro and Conway and I'm pretty sure those two teams would compete nicely in that conference.
Quote from: whsbballfan on December 17, 2018, 11:06:22 am
I'm obviously not from Blytheville as you can tell from my name, and I'm not here to necessarily defend them but what makes you think they are not any better than the top four out of the other side. They do have wins against Jonesboro and Conway and I'm pretty sure those two teams would compete nicely in that conference.
Puzzling to hear the negative reaction against Blytheville as well.. I watched the whole 4A State Tournament last year and they could have made a deep run through it.
Blytheville is a top 5 team in 4A with quality non conference wins (Jonesboro & Springdale). As far as their coach, I haven't seen him much, but the couple of times I have, his players play hard and execute for the most part. At the HS level, you aren't going to ask much more from a team.
Quote from: J12 on December 17, 2018, 02:34:17 pm
Puzzling to hear the negative reaction against Blytheville as well.. I watched the whole 4A State Tournament last year and they could have made a deep run through it.
Blytheville is a top 5 team in 4A with quality non conference wins (Jonesboro & Springdale). As far as their coach, I haven't seen him much, but the couple of times I have, his players play hard and execute for the most part. At the HS level, you aren't going to ask much more from a team.
I agree , Blytheville should make a deep run in State!!
What is Westside's best win? Toughest game?
Quote from: godeep on December 17, 2018, 08:14:09 pm
What is Westside's best win? Toughest game?
To this point - they've beaten Springdale Harber, ICC, & Blytheville.
Only loss was to Bryant.
Here's an updated list from Maxpreps. This list seems to get more accurate as season goes on. I know they use some sort of strength of schedule system to compute rankings.
ARKANSAS CLASS 4A RANKINGS
Rank School Rec.
1 MUSHS (Little Rock)7-3
2 Westside (Jonesboro)9-1
3 Blytheville 7-2
4 ESTEM (Little Rock)12-5
5 Pottsville 8-2
6 Pea Ridge 11-2
7 Forrest City 5-4
8 Brookland 7-2
9 Harrison 7-3
10 McClellan (Little Rock) 5-2
11 Southside (Batesville)
Just so we are clear.....
Blytheville lost to Valley View by 11 last night. 2-2 in conference now.
Valley View has lost games to Batesville Southside (who lost everyone) and Brookland (who would/could beat Blytheville 8-10 points).
But they beat JHS in November.
Just so we are clear. Southside did lose players but not everyone as you proclaim. And you totally fail to mention the recent win in December over Conway. Sounds like they got VV on a good night in their gym. Doesn't mean they are chopped liver.
Quote from: Informant on December 19, 2018, 11:00:53 am
Just so we are clear.....
Blytheville lost to Valley View by 11 last night. 2-2 in conference now.
Valley View has lost games to Batesville Southside (who lost everyone) and Brookland (who would/could beat Blytheville 8-10 points).
But they beat JHS in November.
Not sure the point you're trying to make? If you don't like Blytheville, that's fine. I think they're a good team. Maybe JHS is overrated (which they are) but nonetheless Blytheville is good and we'll see how they fair against Brookland. Probably why they play the games on the court and not on the paper.
My point is Blytheville is overrated. Have been for a few years now. They will beat some teams with athleticism alone. I've also stated they will be outcoached in most games. Games like last night. Fact remains, they will not barrel through this conference like some folks think. And based on that alone, a deep state run is highly unlikely.
Brookland will struggle with them, absolutely. But it won't be a mercy rule blowout as someone stated it would be. Blytheville is athletic as anyone but have streaky shooters and little discipline or adjustments from the sideline. Basically, I'm not buying into them at all.
Westside remains the only team from this conference with a true shot at contention. And even they will struggle against the other side.
Quote from: Informant on December 19, 2018, 01:22:09 pm
My point is Blytheville is overrated. Have been for a few years now. They will beat some teams with athleticism alone. I've also stated they will be outcoached in most games. Games like last night. Fact remains, they will not barrel through this conference like some folks think. And based on that alone, a deep state run is highly unlikely.
Brookland will struggle with them, absolutely. But it won't be a mercy rule blowout as someone stated it would be. Blytheville is athletic as anyone but have streaky shooters and little discipline or adjustments from the sideline. Basically, I'm not buying into them at all.
Westside remains the only team from this conference with a true shot at contention. And even they will struggle against the other side.
I guess I missed whoever said they'd roll through conference. No one is debating the tough regional the 4A-3 has to match up with. The last 4 teams standing last year came out of that regional tournament. 3 from the other district opposite Westside.
I'll add this to the conversation: Simply put, Blytheville lost to Valley View because the 6'7" center on Valley View's team didn't allow them to get a lot of shots to fall in the paint.
With that in mind, I don't think losing one at Valley View necessarily says much about a team. Beating Valley View certainly means even less. They're athletic and talented, but also young and inconsistent. I just don't think you can read much into it, because at their best, they can play with pretty much anybody, but at their worst, they can lose to a jr high team. Granted, I'm absolutely convinced that they'll be in the top half of the district in February, but I wouldn't expect them to go much further.
Blytheville has a great team. Unfortunately for them, the game they played last night emphasized their weaknesses and Valley View's strengths.
We gave them a pass with 13 point loss to top team in conference on road. That's when I suspected they were really overrated. Getting beat understandable. Getting beat 13 and your #2 in conference, not a good conference.
Quote from: godeep on December 19, 2018, 02:06:51 pm
We gave them a pass with 13 point loss to top team in conference on road. That's when I suspected they were really overrated. Getting beat understandable. Getting beat 13 and your #2 in conference, not a good conference.
Haha. Because a team lost by 13 on the road, suddenly the conference isn't good? Got it.
Quote from: godeep on December 19, 2018, 02:06:51 pm
We gave them a pass with 13 point loss to top team in conference on road. That's when I suspected they were really overrated. Getting beat understandable. Getting beat 13 and your #2 in conference, not a good conference.
Also - Blytheville & Westside were tied in the 4th quarter and it was a 4-5 point game under a minute.
I don't remember anyone acting like Blytheville was going to roll through the conference. And overrated for two years now? I don't know where you're hearing all this hype from. Sure, they got excited after the jhs win, which I understand was a benefit game. But they haven't necessarily been on here thumping their chests.
I know there will be some who oppose this but I am posting based on scores and how I see that teams are playing at this point in the season. Just like NCAA, things change from week to week in the rankings.
1 Mills
2 Westside
3 Forrest City
4 ESTEM
5 McClellan
6 Pea Ridge
7 Blytheville
8 Brookland
9 Pottsville
10 Harrison
I hear ESTEM is lighting it up.
Quote from: J12 on December 17, 2018, 08:59:55 pm
Here's an updated list from Maxpreps. This list seems to get more accurate as season goes on. I know they use some sort of strength of schedule system to compute rankings.
ARKANSAS CLASS 4A RANKINGS
Rank School Rec.
1 MUSHS (Little Rock)7-3
2 Westside (Jonesboro)9-1
3 Blytheville 7-2
4 ESTEM (Little Rock)12-5
5 Pottsville 8-2
6 Pea Ridge 11-2
7 Forrest City 5-4
8 Brookland 7-2
9 Harrison 7-3
10 McClellan (Little Rock) 5-2
11 Southside (Batesville)
Harrison is way better than Pea Ridge in the 1-4A.... Pea Ridge honestly does not deserve in the top 10. They're more around the 15-20 area. Good team, but not deserving of top 10. Harrison's 3 losses are all to decent teams in a higher classification.
Blyetheville is overated and Harrison is underatted. Mills is the overwhelming favorite to win 4a. In my opinion the top three players in 4a play for Mills: Madison Peaster, Kevin Cross, and Branton McCrary. Jonesboro Westside is probably second best behind the explosive scoring of Avery Felts and Riley Felkins.
Good Top 10 battle Saturday FC@Harrison.
Quote from: RamblinRazorWreck on November 30, 2018, 08:47:06 pm
1 LR Mills
2 Pottsville
3 Forrest City
4 eSTEM
4 Westside
6 Bytheville
7 Harrison
8 McClellan
9 Brookland
10 PA
my opinion rearranged based on personal observations (haven't seen Magnolia, Farmington or Pea Ridge or I might have included them)
Farmington beat PR in triple ot.
PR just beat a 15-0 Elkins team yesterday. PR plays Alma today in Championship of Airedale classic.
Quote from: Hawk4L on December 29, 2018, 12:02:55 pm
Farmington beat PR in triple ot.
PR just beat a 15-0 Elkins team yesterday. PR plays Alma today in Championship of Airedale classic.
In all fairness Elkins had played the easiest schedule I have seen up to that point so I am not sure how much weight a win against them really carries.... I am not sure they are even top 10 in 3A when its all said and done cause the league they play in is soft of tissue plus they literally scheduled cupcakes in non conference until they finally played Pea Ridge. Their football team did the same thing starting hot beating up on horrible teams and we all see how that turned out when they played real competition. I don't really care for when coaches schedule that soft of non conference slates. The only time that is acceptable is if you're taking over a complete rebuild of a program. Elkins is way past that so I have no clue why they have not challenged themselves until recently. Playing no one just gives you false confidence for when you play stronger opponents.
Yeah I knew they hadn't played anyone was just saying they were 15-0. I don't think PR is top 10. I don't think anyone in our conference is unless it's Harriosn which I haven't seen yet so I can't say.
Harrison win 70 to 63 against Forrest City. The Mustangs looked very good. Mathis and Dale seemed good together
Question:. Is this the 1st time they are using a 35 second shot clock and will they start using it for all high school games accross the State? Both teams seemed to do very well with a shot clock.
Anyway here is the link if you want to rewatch the Goblins/Mustangs game.
https://youtu.be/GrMUKD0KtRI
Quote from: Go Postal on December 29, 2018, 05:42:38 pm
Harrison win 70 to 63 against Forrest City. The Mustangs looked very good. Mathis and Dale seemed good together
Question:. Is this the 1st time they are using a 35 second shot clock and will they start using it for all high school games accross the State? Both teams seemed to do very well with a shot clock.
Anyway here is the link if you want to rewatch the Goblins/Mustangs game.
https://youtu.be/GrMUKD0KtRI
I know several tournaments that have thrown the shot clock in this season. It needs to happen in all games! Hopefully AAA adopts a rule.
Quote from: MDXPHD on December 29, 2018, 05:54:01 pm
I know several tournaments that have thrown the shot clock in this season. It needs to happen in all games! Hopefully AAA adopts a rule.
It seems to make the game better and more strategic on the teams part of how they play.
MDXPHD What a ballgame. Both teams played with tourney intensity.
I feel like every year we have discussions about teams out the west (north & south) being really good, but don't ever make any noise in the state tournament. Always teams from the east and central that generally make it to the end.
Is there that much talent disprency?
Pea Ridge made it to the championship 2years ago
Not limited to 4A. But across the board. Usually the opposite with football too.
I have kids who play for PG and I have seen a bunch of Elkins the last few years. Talent is talent no matter who you play and the past several years I'd say they have had it. Have been very impressed with their Sr and Jr high programs the last few years (although their jr high coach gets a little too crazy for my liking). So that W for Pea Ridge is a really good neutral court win and I'd say outside of Harrison and maybe Farmington, Elkins is better than the rest of the 1-4A
Quote from: beach bum on December 29, 2018, 12:09:38 pm
In all fairness Elkins had played the easiest schedule I have seen up to that point so I am not sure how much weight a win against them really carries.... I am not sure they are even top 10 in 3A when its all said and done cause the league they play in is soft of tissue plus they literally scheduled cupcakes in non conference until they finally played Pea Ridge. Their football team did the same thing starting hot beating up on horrible teams and we all see how that turned out when they played real competition. I don't really care for when coaches schedule that soft of non conference slates. The only time that is acceptable is if you're taking over a complete rebuild of a program. Elkins is way past that so I have no clue why they have not challenged themselves until recently. Playing no one just gives you false confidence for when you play stronger opponents.
1) Mills
2)Westside
3)Pottsville
4)Dardanelle
5)Harrison
6)ESTEM
7)Blytheville
8)Forrest City
9)Farmington
10)Brookland
Just my picks- Based both on personal observance and information gathered here, Max Preps, and conversation with friends across all conferences. Feel pretty good about the top 3 picks....rest could shuffle many directions.
Quote from: basketballjones on December 29, 2018, 10:18:09 pm
I have kids who play for PG and I have seen a bunch of Elkins the last few years. Talent is talent no matter who you play and the past several years I'd say they have had it. Have been very impressed with their Sr and Jr high programs the last few years (although their jr high coach gets a little too crazy for my liking). So that W for Pea Ridge is a really good neutral court win and I'd say outside of Harrison and maybe Farmington, Elkins is better than the rest of the 1-4A
That's because the 1-4A is as bad as its been in a long time.... It's really bad right now. NWA is down right now, and won't do anything on a state wide scale this year.
And yes it does matter who you play. Look at football as an example. Elkins was 5-0 and ranked in the top 10 in football and Arkadelphia was 0-5 after the first 5 weeks of the season. And look how that flipped really fast when the schedule got real the next month or two. Elkins finished 2-4 and Arky 10-0 after that. The beginning was all because the schedule. One team chose to play cupcakes and the real program challenged itself. It's not that hard to see that Elkins played a ton of average 1A schools to start the year to pad the wins in basketball so we won't know much about them until regionals or state.
Also, if you think the Elkins JH coach is a little to wild on the sideline you do know some of the PG coaches do the same thing right? Not talking about the boys HC in basketball, but some of them at the school in general.
Quote from: Livewire on January 05, 2019, 02:23:12 pm
1) Mills
2)Westside
3)Pottsville
4)Dardanelle
5)Harrison
6)ESTEM
7)Blytheville
8)Forrest City
9)Farmington
10)Brookland
Just my picks- Based both on personal observance and information gathered here, Max Preps, and conversation with friends across all conferences. Feel pretty good about the top 3 picks....rest could shuffle many directions.
I think Pottsville is a very good team not sure above 5 or 6 though at this point. Dardanelle is not a 4 for sure. They have won several games but most have been lower classifications and average teams in those classifications.
Quote from: beach bum on January 05, 2019, 02:47:38 pm
That's because the 1-4A is as bad as its been in a long time.... It's really bad right now. NWA is down right now, and won't do anything on a state wide scale this year.
And yes it does matter who you play. Look at football as an example. Elkins was 5-0 and ranked in the top 10 in football and Arkadelphia was 0-5 after the first 5 weeks of the season. And look how that flipped really fast when the schedule got real the next month or two. Elkins finished 2-4 and Arky 10-0 after that. The beginning was all because the schedule. One team chose to play cupcakes and the real program challenged itself. It's not that hard to see that Elkins played a ton of average 1A schools to start the year to pad the wins in basketball so we won't know much about them until regionals or state.
Also, if you think the Elkins JH coach is a little to wild on the sideline you do know some of the PG coaches do the same thing right? Not talking about the boys HC in basketball, but some of them at the school in general.
Lot of angry coaches on the sidelines out there. Maybe they are mad they are coaching junior high.
Lol ! Top ten teams continue to shuffle. Gotta love it! Mills and Westside stay at the top. Blytheville moves up after defeating Brookland and destroying Southside. Lots of games left. Expect more changes in 2-10 positions.
Pottsville lost to Dover last night by 1 point? That is what I am hearing, but nothing confirmed.
Quote from: beach bum on January 05, 2019, 02:47:38 pm
Also, if you think the Elkins JH coach is a little to wild on the sideline you do know some of the PG coaches do the same thing right? Not talking about the boys HC in basketball, but some of them at the school in general.
Froud is one of the most "animated" in the state. He has to be one of them you were referring to. Every game is the State Championship Game to him and it doesn't matter if he's down by 30.
Quote from: Charlie1001 on January 12, 2019, 02:34:32 pm
Froud is one of the most "animated" in the state. He has to be one of them you were referring to. Every game is the State Championship Game to him and it doesn't matter if he's down by 30.
And the school should wonder why they only have like 8 players some years when they have about 200+ girls to choose from 10th-12th grade.... I argued with a PG poster last year about how is having such little participation not a red flag cause they said that's "all just fine"?? Especially from a succesful program in the past although they are struggling mightily now. That's exactly what happens is you can't sustain long term success with low numbers. You can't just rely on a rare group of extremely talented players to come through year after year with less than 10 players sometimes. At some point you need depth to sustain it long term and its showing now finally at PG. It takes good roster numbers to sustain losing talented players to graduation.
Look at football, the good, long term programs in the small classifications in general have a way higher roster number than their opponents in the same classification. Same in general for basketball.... It's simply program morale.... People want to be around positivity. Winning should attract numbers, not run it way.
There is coaching tough and holding players accountable..... and well there is also taking overboard. That line is not fuzzy, some coaches just don't care to see that line.
Quote from: Livewire on January 05, 2019, 02:23:12 pm
1) Mills
2)Westside
3)Pottsville
4)Dardanelle
5)Harrison
6)ESTEM
7)Blytheville
8)Forrest City
9)Farmington
10)Brookland
Just my picks- Based both on personal observance and information gathered here, Max Preps, and conversation with friends across all conferences. Feel pretty good about the top 3 picks....rest could shuffle many directions.
But back to the boys top 10 discussion... Unless 4A is just way down as a whole then the 1-4A at this point does not really deserve a top 10 team. Pea Ridge, Farmington, and Harrison at this point are teams kind of at that next level; but do not merit top 10 discussion as of now.
The 1-4A boys would need a miracle just to split regionals with the 4-4A..... 3/4 wins for the 4-4A seems most likely at this point, but a 4-4A sweep seems more likely than a split even at regionals. All those could happen I suppose though. Just can't see the 1-4A winning regionals at all without some big breaks.
I wouldn't argue that Farmington isn't a top 10, but Pottsville, IMO, is. I wouldn't rank them 3rd after losing to Dover (how did that happen!?) but the have some good wins and their other losses were to good teams.
I disagree on the regional sweep.
Curious question. If a current top 10 (as of now) doesn't make state tournament and a non top 10 team does will you change your order?
Quote from: wait4it on January 13, 2019, 05:46:37 pm
Curious question. If a current top 10 (as of now) doesn't make state tournament and a non top 10 team does will you change your order?
Have to consider circumstances....who did the non-top 10 beat on their way to state tournament, who "upset" the top 10. Did the top 10 team win anything in state or get blown out by somebody...
Quote from: wait4it on January 13, 2019, 05:46:37 pm
Curious question. If a current top 10 (as of now) doesn't make state tournament and a non top 10 team does will you change your order?
I posted my top 10 picks in mid season. Rankings change weekly. Numerous things can affect teams ranking. Teams improve, injuries happen, players quit, etc., so I see no reason not to adjust one's picks. It's just an opionion anyway. However, I guess I missed something, because if a team makes state, they are already a top 12 team.
Dardanelle keeps winning may have misspoken. I thought their competition had been lacking but they keep putting up wins. Tomorrow night they will play at Pottsville. Should be a great game. Sure hope Pottsville shoots well at home.
1) Mills
2)Westside
3)Pottsville
4)Dardanelle
5)Harrison
6)ESTEM
7)Blytheville
8)Forrest City
9)Farmington
10)Brookland
Bold schools are in the same region. Only 4 get to dance.
Quote from: wait4it on January 14, 2019, 08:41:30 am
1) Mills
2)Westside
3)Pottsville
4)Dardanelle
5)Harrison
6)ESTEM
7)Blytheville
8)Forrest City
9)Farmington
10)Brookland
Bold schools are in the same region. Only 4 get to dance.
gonna make for a fun regional, but a lame state!
Quote from: MDXPHD on January 14, 2019, 09:37:12 am
gonna make for a fun regional, but a lame state!
As I agree about the regional I disagree with the "lame state" part. I think that some teams in the north and south will have good teams in the tournament. Mena and Arkadelphia (7-4A) are looking good from the south region.
Quote from: wait4it on January 14, 2019, 08:41:30 am
1) Mills
2)Westside
3)Pottsville
4)Dardanelle
5)Harrison
6)ESTEM
7)Blytheville
8)Forrest City
9)Farmington
10)Brookland
Bold schools are in the same region. Only 4 get to dance.
You realize the other teams that are not in bold are also in the same region. Districts 1-4A & 4-4A
Quote from: (((Subi2Sweet))) on January 14, 2019, 11:04:45 am
You realize the other teams that are not in bold are also in the same region. Districts 1-4A & 4-4A
But don't the top 4 teams make it to state? I think he was pointing out that at least 2 of the top 10 teams in the state will not make the state tournament since they are in the same region.
Apologies if I was unclear.....OB11 is correct. I was looking at the region from a standpoint of 2 of the "top 10" teams wont get to the state tournament. There is also a possibility that the other 4 teams in the top 10 get upset in the regional tournament. May not be likely but it is possible.
Quote from: (((Subi2Sweet))) on January 14, 2019, 11:04:45 am
You realize the other teams that are not in bold are also in the same region. Districts 1-4A & 4-4A
The 1-4A is getting overhyped big time from the basketball I am seeing being played up in NWA right now
Also, I wish they would just do away with regionals. I wish they just took the top 4 teams from each conference from the regular season. I know that regionals are a de facto 1st round of state, but we all know one regional is usually way superior to the rest. If your goal is to get the best teams to state moving on then regionals is not the way to do that obviously. This would also allow you to see sporadic conference matchups like we do in football. You would see Central AR teams vs SW Arkansas teams, NWA vs SEA, NEA vs SW Arkansas, etc, from the get go in postseason.... Well you get the point.
I understand from a student athlete point adding another round at state just means more time away from class so it will never happen. At regionals you can play and come home that night for school the next day. Adding another round at state just adds more time away for kids from the class room.
If two teams tie for 4th in the conference and they split in the regular season just let them have a play in game for the final state spot. If they have identical records and one swept the other obviously let head to head decide and the team that swept the other get in. I like the regular season mattering more than a district tournament. I say that being the beneficiary of being the 7 seed at the district tourney before played at home, and getting hot all the way to the finals of district and then being a 2 seed at regionals. Stuff like that is extremely rare, but diminishes the regular season greatly. That is why I do not care for the district tourney either if you really want the best teams moving on to the postseason.
I understand the nostalgia and mystique around district/regionals tournaments as well as more travel for students so it will never happen 1A-4A
Quote from: wait4it on January 14, 2019, 11:29:32 am
Apologies if I was unclear.....OB11 is correct. I was looking at the region from a standpoint of 2 of the "top 10" teams wont get to the state tournament. There is also a possibility that the other 4 teams in the top 10 get upset in the regional tournament. May not be likely but it is possible.
Are there not 3 Regionals in 4A? My point was the top 10 only has 2 Regions representing in it, which is odd.
Quote from: (((Subi2Sweet))) on January 14, 2019, 11:52:53 am
Are there not 3 Regionals in 4A? My point was the top 10 only has 2 Regions representing in it, which is odd.
True...I am guessing that no one thinks the south region (conferences 7 and 8) have anyone worthy of top 10 status so only the north and east regions are represented in the top 10.
Remember that the topic is "4a Top Ten". When I made my picks, I knew the south region was being left out. The choices were based on who I thought were the top 10 teams in the 4a. The fact that only 4 from each region qualify for state did not factor in.
I guess we could start a new topic where we pick our 4 choices from each region that we think will make it to state.
Quote from: Livewire on January 14, 2019, 06:14:29 pm
Remember that the topic is "4a Top Ten". When I made my picks, I knew the south region was being left out. The choices were based on who I thought were the top 10 teams in the 4a. The fact that only 4 from each region qualify for state did not factor in.
I guess we could start a new topic where we pick our 4 choices from each region that we think will make it to state.
No I rather stick to who people think are the top teams even if they all come from one or two conferences. Good teams get out and play other good teams around the state or other states.
Quote from: Gray lizard on January 15, 2019, 07:57:16 am
No I rather stick to who people think are the top teams even if they all come from one or two conferences. Good teams get out and play other good teams around the state or other states.
I would have to agree. I have not been able to get out of the River Valley to see anyone else play so I do not know if the South has a team worthy of being in the Top 10 or not. Just thought it was odd. But if the top teams come from 1 or 2 Regions then so be it.
I have no problem with a majority of the top 10 teams coming from only a couple of conferences. It is how it is.
Quote from: Gray lizard on January 15, 2019, 07:57:16 am
No I rather stick to who people think are the top teams even if they all come from one or two conferences. Good teams get out and play other good teams around the state or other states.
The region that contains Mills, Westside, ESTEM, Blythville, Forrest City and Brookland is going to get interesting because like someone stated earlier, only for make it to the state tourney. Who do you think is going to miss the dance?
Also, Magnolia is being slept on to me in the rankings that is a really solid team. Ford is something serious. If they keep rolling like they are, its going to get interesting when the State tourney starts...Home games for them which is always a plus for any team.
Look for Mills, Forrest City, Westside and Blytheville to go to state.
Quote from: Livewire on January 18, 2019, 07:10:02 pm
Look for Mills, Forrest City, Westside and Blytheville to go to state.
I think McClellan will have a better chance than Blytheville...just my opinion.
IDK, Blytheville is pretty salty, but in all fairness, I haven't watched McCellan play.
One thing for sure is, we will get to see some great games in district and regionals!
Blytheville will have to beat either Forrest City Esteem or McClellan to get in. No small task.
If Blytheville is 2 seed I see them facing McClellan. Good luck.
regional and state brackets are out....make your predictions....
Quote from: Livewire on January 18, 2019, 07:10:02 pm
Look for Mills, Forrest City, Westside and Blytheville to go to state.
I think there should/will be a team out of the North region in the last 4 standing.
Quote from: Gray lizard on January 24, 2019, 10:54:28 am
I think there should/will be a team out of the North region in the last 4 standing.
Will it be someone from the 1-4A or 4-4A? I see potentially Farmington or Huntsville as the 1 seed from that region. i dont think Pottsville or Dardanelle can beat them. Strictly my opinion.
Quote from: wait4it on January 24, 2019, 11:22:45 am
Will it be someone from the 1-4A or 4-4A? I see potentially Farmington or Huntsville as the 1 seed from that region. i dont think Pottsville or Dardanelle can beat them. Strictly my opinion.
Pottsville already handled Farmington easily.
So....Pottsville will be the North Region 1 seed in state tournament?
Quote from: wait4it on January 24, 2019, 12:29:30 pm
So....Pottsville will be the North Region 1 seed in state tournament?
I think so
Quote from: wait4it on January 24, 2019, 11:22:45 am
Will it be someone from the 1-4A or 4-4A? I see potentially Farmington or Huntsville as the 1 seed from that region. i dont think Pottsville or Dardanelle can beat them. Strictly my opinion.
I have seen both play and if either one of those two teams from the 1-4A end up the 1 seed or even the 2 seed from the region in the state tournament then this must be the worst NWA and River Valley basketball has been in a couple decades..... Cause take Huntsville away from its home court and they quickly become average. And unless Farmington had a key player out I don't know about they have no big guy inside or 3 point, lights out shooters. A good defensive team will take them out of their game quickly.
Quote from: beach bum on January 24, 2019, 01:35:05 pm
I have seen both play and if either one of those two teams from the 1-4A end up the 1 seed or even the 2 seed from the region in the state tournament then this must be the worst NWA and River Valley basketball has been in a couple decades..... Cause take Huntsville away from its home court and they quickly become average. And unless Farmington had a key player out I don't know about they have no big guy inside or 3 point, lights out shooters. A good defensive team will take them out of their game quickly.
Farmington has no big guy ??? They have a kid that's like 6'7 280. He scored 20 against PR in our 3ot loss
Quote from: Hawk4L on January 24, 2019, 02:04:47 pm
Farmington has no big guy ??? They have a kid that's like 6'7 280. He scored 20 against PR in our 3ot loss
That player was definitely not on the court the day I saw them play.... I don't think I would have missed that size of player lol. Did he miss some time in the non conference? The tallest guy I saw was 6'2" ish and that's being generous.
Quote from: Hawk4L on January 24, 2019, 02:04:47 pm
Farmington has no big guy ??? They have a kid that's like 6'7 280. He scored 20 against PR in our 3ot loss
He scored 4 in the Pottsville game. May be finding his groove here near tourney time.
You have to be careful when you hear or see measurements on these boys. The Morrilton boy listed at 6'5" was shorter than a Pottsville boy listed at 6'4" and they were standing side by side.
Quote from: Sigmund Sauer on January 24, 2019, 03:19:33 pm
He scored 4 in the Pottsville game. May be finding his groove here near tourney time.
Pottsville is a long team and can keep the ball out of the lane when other teams have a big boy, There down fall is that real athletic boy who is 6'2" to 6'4" that can create his own game and drive the lane.
He's no less then 6'5 pretty sure he was taller then our big which is 6'5!! I can't remember his name. We played them 3-4 weeks ago. He's not a stud but he's solid player.
Quote from: Hawk4L on January 24, 2019, 04:16:44 pm
He's no less then 6'5 pretty sure he was taller then our big which is 6'5!! I can't remember his name. We played them 3-4 weeks ago. He's not a stud but he's solid player.
Austin Shelley is his name
Quote from: Gray lizard on January 24, 2019, 10:54:28 am
I think there should/will be a team out of the North region in the last 4 standing.
There won't be. Unless a major improvement happened from last year, the talent gap is too vast.
Quote from: J12 on January 24, 2019, 06:53:25 pm
There won't be. Unless a major improvement happened from last year, the talent gap is too vast.
And that my friend is why the games are played. We will just have to wait and see.
Pottsville or Farmington from the North Region? Lots think it twill be Pottsville....I think Farmington has improved enough to be 1 seed from the North.
I have not saw any of the teams from the East or Mills play. I understand there are 3 to 4 teams that are quality teams. I do think Pottsville will contend. Coaching and play always gets better going into post season.
I have watched some highlights on Mills. They are very good team with length and a dominate big man (notice I did not say boy no doubt he is a man) that can get up and down the court. I agree they will be hard to knock off.
Good news for the 2 seed from the north is they get 3 seed from the south which may be Monticello or Mena. However both of these teams arent bad.
Quote from: wait4it on January 25, 2019, 09:34:33 am
Good news for the 2 seed from the north is they get 3 seed from the south which may be Monticello or Mena. However both of these teams arent bad.
Right, The 2 seed from the North will play one of those teams in the first round of the state tourney. The winner will play the 2nd seed from the East in the quarter finals. On the same side of that bracket the 2nd seed from the south will face the 4th seed from the east in the first round to see who will play the 1st seed from the north in the quarter finals.
The 1st seeds in the North, South, and East all have a first round bye along with the 2nd seed from the East.
Quote from: Gray lizard on January 25, 2019, 07:48:44 am
And that my friend is why the games are played. We will just have to wait and see.
Agreed. But I wouldn't count on it. Best of luck to them but there's just better basketball played in central and east Arkansas.
Quote from: J12 on January 25, 2019, 10:56:19 am
Agreed. But I wouldn't count on it. Best of luck to them but there's just better basketball played in central and east Arkansas.
I just hope the championship game isn't so one-sided this year. Ready to see an exciting 4A final.
I agree....give us some thrills
Quote from: Sigmund Sauer on January 25, 2019, 11:10:29 am
I just hope the championship game isn't so one-sided this year. Ready to see an exciting 4A final.
yeah, last years was non competitive.
Quote from: LRRandy on January 25, 2019, 12:46:16 pm
yeah, last years was non competitive.
Shouldn't you be posting in the 3A thread now?
Update to the 4A Boys Top 10 (Maxpreps):
1. Mills University Studies (16-4) (9-0 in 4A-5E)
2. Westside (Jonesboro) (16-3) (9-1 in 4A-3E)
3. Pottsville (17-4) (8-2 in 4A-4N)
4. Magnolia (13-3) (6-0 in 4A-8S)
5. McClellan (13-6) (6-2 in 4A-5E)
6. Blytheville (12-5) (7-3 in 4A-3E)
7. ESTEEM (17-9) (6-3 in 4A-5E)
8. Forrest City (11-7) (7-3 in 4A-5E)
9. Harrison (16-5) (6-1 in 4A-1N)
10. Brookland (13-5) (7-3 in 4A-3E)
Next 5:
11. Pea Ridge (17-5) (6-2 in 4A-1N)
12. Southside (16-6) (7-3 in 4A-3E)
13. Farmington (15-6) (7-0 in 4A-1N)
14. Mena (16-5) (7-1 in 4A-7S)
15. Dardanelle (19-4) (7-3 in 4A-4N)
Is this accurate to you? Is this your top ten?
7 of the top 10 from the East Region. 1 from the South Region and 2 from the North Region.
Quote from: MR.GOMAB on January 25, 2019, 01:20:43 pm
Update to the 4A Boys Top 10 (Maxpreps):
1. Mills University Studies (16-4) (9-0 in 4A-5E)
2. Westside (Jonesboro) (16-3) (9-1 in 4A-3E)
3. Pottsville (17-4) (8-2 in 4A-4N)
4. Magnolia (13-3) (6-0 in 4A-8S)
5. McClellan (13-6) (6-2 in 4A-5E)
6. Blytheville (12-5) (7-3 in 4A-3E)
7. ESTEEM (17-9) (6-3 in 4A-5E)
8. Forrest City (11-7) (7-3 in 4A-5E)
9. Harrison (16-5) (6-1 in 4A-1N)
10. Brookland (13-5) (7-3 in 4A-3E)
Next 5:
11. Pea Ridge (17-5) (6-2 in 4A-1N)
12. Southside (16-6) (7-3 in 4A-3E)
13. Farmington (15-6) (7-0 in 4A-1N)
14. Mena (16-5) (7-1 in 4A-7S)
15. Dardanelle (19-4) (7-3 in 4A-4N)
Is this accurate to you? Is this your top ten?
7 of the top 10 from the East Region. 1 from the South Region and 2 from the North Region.
Looks about right.
Quote from: J12 on January 25, 2019, 12:56:33 pm
Shouldn't you be posting in the 3A thread now?
oh, I do. I just thought that since I had first hand knowledge on how easy last years championship game was, as the poster as inferring, I would comment.
Quote from: LRRandy on January 25, 2019, 02:24:06 pm
oh, I do. I just thought that since I had first hand knowledge on how easy last years championship game was, as the poster as inferring, I would comment.
This board is a lot less annoying this year. Wonder why?
Quote from: J12 on January 25, 2019, 03:02:41 pm
This board is a lot less annoying this year. Wonder why?
prepare yourself. Mills wins.
And it's actually not annoying I just feel sorry for folks who have nothing better to do than get on here and troll. Then call kids out in amatuter athletics.
But hey, here you are.
Quote from: J12 on January 25, 2019, 03:07:06 pm
And it's actually not annoying I just feel sorry for folks who have nothing better to do than get on here and troll. Then call kids out in amatuter athletics.
But hey, here you are.
after watching them play two games I diagnosed why they would lose. Before they lost. If that hurts your feels so be it. I was right tho
Quote from: LRRandy on January 25, 2019, 03:29:20 pm
after watching them play two games I diagnosed why they would lose. Before they lost. If that hurts your feels so be it. I was right tho
That's good to hear.
Quote from: LRRandy on January 25, 2019, 03:29:20 pm
after watching them play two games I diagnosed why they would lose. Before they lost. If that hurts your feels so be it. I was right tho
why did they lose?
Quote from: wait4it on January 26, 2019, 07:35:29 am
why did they lose?
here is the post:
4A Basketball / Re: 4A East Regional @ Lonoke
« on: February 23, 2018, 11:35:44 pm »
Quote from: Donnie Jamon on February 23, 2018, 08:20:50 pm
Yeah these games don't mean much. Especially for Westside bc they like to shoot at Brookland gym.
LRRandy:
their shooting is what might be problematic for them. Having watched two games I can't get over the odd shooting form of Westsides players. Their top shooters all have unorthodox shots. While they can get hot and obviously can fill it up quite often it's that very irregularity that will cost them a chance to win a championship. I saw air balls ( along with several makes) these last two games I watched. When any adversity comes be it tough defense, fatigue ( Westside only played 6 players when it counts) or tight game, a true form is needed to be able to consistently knock down clutch shots. I see this as young men that learned those shooting techniques at a young age and found success in elementary and junior high and were not made to correct their poor form because quite frankly they can get the ball in the basket so why change. However, it will be that very thing that will cost them. Just my opinion.
This thread was derailed because this cat wanted to troll like he does. Just get back on topic. We get it, Westside didn't play well last year.
Quote from: J12 on January 26, 2019, 10:50:51 am
This thread was derailed because this cat wanted to troll like he does. Just get back on topic. We get it, Westside didn't play well last year.
Baptist being really good will do that to people.... I'd say it was more of BP was just really good ;D
I miss BP and all the private school recruiting jabs. Those were fun times.
It was more like a steam roll in the finals honestly than a game. Just think, this year will be probably be worse with Mills than BP if Westside plays them
Quote from: J12 on January 26, 2019, 10:50:51 am
This thread was derailed because this cat wanted to troll like he does. Just get back on topic. We get it, Westside didn't play well last year.
If you are referring to that 1 game,and I assume you are, then I agree. Surely no one thinks that a team that is playing for a state championship ' didn't play well last year'.
Quote from: beach bum on January 26, 2019, 11:01:52 am
Baptist being really good will do that to people.... I'd say it was more of BP was just really good ;D
not playing well most often is a result of the other team exploiting your teams weakness. Baptist Prep changed its zone defense to stop #10's dribble drive. It shut him down from getting to the basket. The weak spot in the zone, the open corner 3, was not capitalized on by Westside due to their deficiencies that I pointed out a week before they played.
Quote from: Sigmund Sauer on January 26, 2019, 11:26:19 am
I miss BP and all the private school recruiting jabs. Those were fun times.
haha. A couple of those thread got obstreperous.
What about Magnolia from the South. They have a pretty good season going and will have home court advantage. Do they have any chance of making a run in state?
Quote from: Gray lizard on January 24, 2019, 10:54:28 am
I think there should/will be a team out of the North region in the last 4 standing.
If Pottsville gets the 1 seed they may have a chance. Otherwise no chance. Whoever gets it will , IMO, meet up with the 4 seed from the East. Also Pottsville will have to play their best ball to get past the East to advance to final 4.
Looks like the East region has a strangle hold on the state tournament...more specifically the 5-4A conference. does anyone think that the final 4 will be any other teams besides the ones from that conference? Westside looks pretty good. Pottsville is playing well. Any others?
Pottsville has a 12 grade player back from knee injury (payed last 3 games) and a couple 10th graders that are developing very well. They are looking to make a strong finish to the year. This gives them a deep bench that can go 8 deep with out any let off in talent or size.
Quote from: wait4it on January 31, 2019, 12:17:02 pm
Looks like the East region has a strangle hold on the state tournament...more specifically the 5-4A conference. does anyone think that the final 4 will be any other teams besides the ones from that conference? Westside looks pretty good. Pottsville is playing well. Any others?
The east region is nice. Being that 3-4A and 5-4A are in the same region and those conferences having a district tourney, do you see any upsets happening? Only 4 teams from both regions get to dance.
I do think that the #3 Magnolia Panthers will be in the final four. If they win the region with them and 7-4A which I think they should barring any injury or anything. They will be the one seed going into the state tourney at their house. A first round by awaiting the winner of the match up between the 3rd seed from the East region and the 4th seed from the North. Im confident enough that Magnolia can win that quarter final game and move to the semi finals to face the 1 seed from the East (which will most likely be LR Mills...Barring any injury or surprising upset). Magnolia is a really good team.
ADG
1 Mills
2 Pottsville
3 Westside
4 Blytheville
5 Brookland
6 McClellan
Westside at 3??? Didn't Brookland just beat em on their home floor?
Quote from: FoxandHound34 on February 03, 2019, 09:01:18 pm
Westside at 3??? Didn't Brookland just beat em on their home floor?
It wasn't easy, It was a battle... Westside is very talented
I expect another tough battle at Blytheville tomorrow night
Not sure why they are having a state championship game this year... might as well give to Mills!
Mills may be the favorite to win state. However, lets not get too hasty and cheat ourselves out of the fun of watching them earn it. As the saying goes, "any team can be beat on a bad night".
Just ask Westside. Couple key players got in early foul trouble; missed some free throws and a layup...result was a loss.
There will be some upsets along the way.
Might as well Money Mike. It's Mills to lose this year. LR schools continue to win 4A
Quote from: Livewire on January 26, 2019, 12:25:09 pm
What about Magnolia from the South. They have a pretty good season going and will have home court advantage. Do they have any chance of making a run in state?
They will as long as the AAA doesn't let 1A Nevada into the tournament. Nevada has beaten Magnolia twice....
yeah.. but Kirby beat Nevada earlier in the year.. and I know Bauxite beat them as well..
Aren't Magnolias best 2 players freshman?
Quote from: Moneymike on February 04, 2019, 10:51:48 pm
yeah.. but Kirby beat Nevada earlier in the year.. and I know Bauxite beat them as well..
That's right......doesn't say much about the largest enrollment Class 4A school does it........
Yes Magnolia two best players are indeed freshmen which means for the next 3 years after this Magnolia is going to be in the running, Led by Ford who is the #11 ranked player in the state..All Classifications. Offers from Baylor, Oklahoma State and Texas A&M so far. Very good player. And Garland who is one of the top freshmen in the state, sharpshooter. Magnolia did lose to Nevada twice early in the season. Magnolia will compete in the State Tourney at their house. Barring any injury, they will meet Mills in the Semi Finals (if neither gets upset before hand).
All those good teams in the East region (Mills, McClellan, Westside, Blytheville, Forrest City, Brookland, ESTEEM) and only four get to dance in the state tourney....That is going to be interesting as well.
I thought Magnolia would/should be better than they are
Quote from: scrapdig on February 05, 2019, 12:43:49 pm
I thought Magnolia would/should be better than they are
You think they aren't good?
Quote from: MR.GOMAB on February 05, 2019, 12:59:10 pm
You think they aren't good?
I was shocked they lost twice to Nevada.
Quote from: scrapdig on February 05, 2019, 01:09:44 pm
I was shocked they lost twice to Nevada.
Yea I was too but Nevada is actually a very good team that has beaten 3 4A teams this year. Very well coached. I was at both games and Magnolia was out coached both times, glad that he has finally come around.
Quote from: MR.GOMAB on February 05, 2019, 01:18:41 pm
Yea I was too but Nevada is actually a very good team that has beaten 3 4A teams this year. Very well coached. I was at both games and Magnolia was out coached both times, glad that he has finally come around.
Come around to what?
Quote from: scrapdig on February 05, 2019, 02:18:19 pm
Come around to what?
Taking the leash off of his young Freshmen and letting them play. He had a system in place where it was strictly zone defense and he wanted at least 5 passes before a shot was taken "to manage the game". This is all out of the window now and their potential has grown as a team.
Quote from: MR.GOMAB on February 05, 2019, 02:21:05 pm
Taking the leash off of his young Freshmen and letting them play. He had a system in place where it was strictly zone defense and he wanted at least 5 passes before a shot was taken "to manage the game". This is all out of the window now and their potential has grown as a team.
You gotta be #@#@###$ me! Hoosiers has ruined more coaches than it helped. 5 passes lol what a joke
Quote from: scrapdig on February 05, 2019, 02:39:19 pm
You gotta be #@#@###$ me! Hoosiers has ruined more coaches than it helped. 5 passes lol what a joke
EXACTLY!!! You have two of the best freshmen in the state and a great supporting cast and you limit them like that? No sir. That has since changed and they have been playing some good ball..Sleeper to me in the State Tourney because everyone is so high on the East region..Which has some great teams..but again...only 4 get to dance so if an upset happens in regionals in the East region..Who knows..
Surely they run the entire offense around Ford?
Quote from: scrapdig on February 05, 2019, 02:58:54 pm
Surely they run the entire offense around Ford?
Big part of it..But no..They have other scorers
Been seeing where the Ford kid from Magnolia is putting up good numbers and has gotten D1 offers. I'm glad he is a freshman and has 3 more years to play, because I would really like to see him. Unfortunately I won't be able to make it to the state tournament to watch their first game...oh well, there's always next year.
Magnolia has slowed a bit but still winning. I expect them to pick up momentum through the regional tournament.
Quote from: wait4it on February 09, 2019, 03:37:52 pm
Magnolia has slowed a bit but still winning. I expect them to pick up momentum through the regional tournament.
Couldn't agree more!
Quote from: wait4it on January 24, 2019, 11:22:45 am
Will it be someone from the 1-4A or 4-4A? I see potentially Farmington or Huntsville as the 1 seed from that region. i dont think Pottsville or Dardanelle can beat them. Strictly my opinion.
I think it's a good time to discuss this a bit more ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: wait4it on February 09, 2019, 03:37:52 pm
Magnolia has slowed a bit but still winning. I expect them to pick up momentum through the regional tournament.
And this too!
Quote from: godeep on December 19, 2018, 02:06:51 pm
We gave them a pass with 13 point loss to top team in conference on road. That's when I suspected they were really overrated. Getting beat understandable. Getting beat 13 and your #2 in conference, not a good conference.
👍🏻
Quote from: Livewire on February 23, 2019, 09:11:00 pm
And this too!
Magnolia lost a tough one to Cello. 3rd seed away from Mills...I will take my chances at our house! Go Panthers!
While Mills cruised through the district 5 conference with only 1 game decided by less than 10 points (5 pt win @ FC) they found theirselves in a battle in each matchup with district 3.
Mills is good, but anyone that watched the games at Highland know they can be beat. Expect another all East final 4 at state. (But keep a close watch on Pottsville, as they could slip up on Westside if the Warriors continue in their shooting slump!)
Quote from: MR.GOMAB on February 23, 2019, 10:15:27 pm
Magnolia lost a tough one to Cello. 3rd seed away from Mills...I will take my chances at our house! Go Panthers!
I don't think Mag will have much trouble with Morrilton, but Blytheville will exploit their youth and weak schedule. Blytheville by 5.
Quote from: Livewire on February 23, 2019, 10:27:23 pm
I don't think Mag will have much trouble with Morrilton, but Blytheville will exploit their youth and weak schedule. Blytheville by 5.
We just have to play our game...Get the ball in D. Ford hands not too many can stop this guy from getting what he wants. If we are knocking down our shots at home we have a shot vs anyone. Morrilton is the first order of business.
Quote from: Livewire on February 23, 2019, 10:20:11 pm
While Mills cruised through the district 5 conference with only 1 game decided by less than 10 points (5 pt win @ FC) they found theirselves in a battle in each matchup with district 3.
Mills is good, but anyone that watched the games at Highland know they can be beat. Expect another all East final 4 at state. (But keep a close watch on Pottsville, as they could slip up on Westside if the Warriors continue in their shooting slump!)
Heard Madison Peaster left Mills?? Is this true? I'm a Panther fan...Homecourt...I hope to see us in that final 4!!
I heard that, too. If that's the case, that's a huge loss for them. Double-digit per game scorer that's high energy on both ends. Mills can reload but that's a big loss if true.
Quote from: MR.GOMAB on February 23, 2019, 10:34:05 pm
We just have to play our game...Get the ball in D. Ford hands not too many can stop this guy from getting what he wants. If we are knocking down our shots at home we have a shot vs anyone. Morrilton is the first order of business.
That's what coach always told us "always focus on the team at hand", but I'm not a coach and don't see Morrilton as much of an obstacle for Mag, so I just looked ahead to where the real matchup will be.
Quote from: Livewire on February 24, 2019, 10:49:18 am
That's what coach always told us "always focus on the team at hand", but I'm not a coach and don't see Morrilton as much of an obstacle for Mag, so I just looked ahead to where the real matchup will be.
I've watched Morrilton on film this weekend. I believe Magnolia can take them. Blytheville will be the game!! I believe it could possibly be
#6 Magnolia vs #5 Blytheville
#4 Westside vs #2 Pottsville
In the Quarterfinals.
Quote from: MR.GOMAB on February 24, 2019, 10:59:48 am
I've watched Morrilton on film this weekend. I believe Magnolia can take them. Blytheville will be the game!! I believe it could possibly be
#6 Magnolia vs #5 Blytheville
#4 Westside vs #2 Pottsville
In the Quarterfinals.
Where did Mills go? Why do you think they won't be there after beating Westside and Blytheville?
Quote from: Frank Abagnale Jr. on February 25, 2019, 07:46:28 am
Where did Mills go? Why do you think they won't be there after beating Westside and Blytheville?
This is the bottom half of the Bracket. Mills is at the top half of the bracket. No one can discredit LR Mills, they are loaded every year!
Quote from: MR.GOMAB on February 25, 2019, 08:26:22 am
This is the bottom half of the Bracket. Mills is at the top half of the bracket. No one can discredit LR Mills, they are loaded every year!
Rumor has it that they're going to go ahead and give Mills the championship before this the tournament this week. Whomever has played them the closest will automatically be given runner up! Such an honor that Blytheville and Westside are tied for that (sorry Brookland - you lost by 7)!
Great seasons everyone!! No need to play this tournament.
Quote from: J12 on February 25, 2019, 08:29:19 am
Rumor has it that they're going to go ahead and give Mills the championship before this the tournament this week. Whomever has played them the closest will automatically be given runner up! Such an honor that Blytheville and Westside are tied for that (sorry Brookland - you lost by 7)!
Great seasons everyone!! No need to play this tournament.
Thats a good one lol I've been following the whole Brookland/Westside thing in other threads as well. It is quite entertaining lol
Quote from: MR.GOMAB on February 25, 2019, 08:26:22 am
This is the bottom half of the Bracket. Mills is at the top half of the bracket. No one can discredit LR Mills, they are loaded every year!
I thought you said semifinals, not quarter finals! My apologies!
Quote from: J12 on February 25, 2019, 08:29:19 am
Rumor has it that they're going to go ahead and give Mills the championship before this the tournament this week. Whomever has played them the closest will automatically be given runner up! Such an honor that Blytheville and Westside are tied for that (sorry Brookland - you lost by 7)!
Great seasons everyone!! No need to play this tournament.
After watching Westside play this past week, I'm not sure they have what it takes to win state. They are a good team, and in my opinion Felkins is the best player, but they will have to play near perfect basketball to win the championship this year. It's possible, but I would put them at around 4/5 with Mills, Blytheville, and at least Magnolia ahead of them at this point. Of course, they do have some state tournament experience that could go a long ways when this thing starts.
My post wasn't directed towards Westside winning it all. It's a dig at all that have crowned LR Mills before this tournament has even started.
If anything, there's more parody in this state tournament than years past. Baptist Prep dominated in this region and state, unlike Mills has thus far.
Unless LR Mills had an off week last week, they're not near as dominant as some made them out to be.
Quote from: J12 on February 25, 2019, 09:09:39 am
My post wasn't directed towards Westside winning it all. It's a dig at all that have crowned LR Mills before this tournament has even started.
If anything, there's more parody in this state tournament than years past. Baptist Prep dominated in this region and state, unlike Mills has thus far.
Unless LR Mills had an off week last week, they're not near as dominant as some made them out to be.
I'm a Magnolia Panther fan, So I would love to see someone take LR Mills down. I was following the score threads last week and was shocked at the scores and how close the games were. I was made a believer that they can be had. Losing Peaster hurt them imo.
Quote from: MR.GOMAB on February 25, 2019, 09:27:17 am
I'm a Magnolia Panther fan, So I would love to see someone take LR Mills down. I was following the score threads last week and was shocked at the scores and how close the games were. I was made a believer that they can be had. Losing Peaster hurt them imo.
It's still Mills to lose. I just don't think anyone needs to step on the court this week and think that there's a team in that tournament 30 points better than them.
After watching the boys North final I think they are sending two teams capable of getting to Hotsprings. If one of them manage to get there always a chance. Morriliton has a good team and I think they will surprise some teams on just how quick they are to the ball. Get lazy on a pass and they are converting a layup.
I know it is my team, but Pottsville is just a solid team.
As somebody who has watched Mills all year, last week wasn't their best week. It almost mirrored the three game losing streak they had at the beginning of the season. Nevertheless, ran up against some teams who played good games, and still managed to make it out of the East.
Even though Peaster is gone, Mills will be okay. Without a doubt, he's a phenomenal player, but many people aren't aware of the fact that he missed a significant amount of games this season due to undisclosed issues.
It should be noted that a couple of potential Elite 8 matchups on the top half of the bracket will be between teams that have played each other before. And it wasn't close:
Mills beat Fairview 80-46 in December.
McClellan beat Monticello 77-53 in December.
These scores can't necessarily be used to predict anything, because anything can happen this time of the year. But, it will be interesting to see how the teams adjust to each other.
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see Mills, McClelan, Westside, and Blytheville in the Final Four. Magnolia could creep up on Blytheville too though.
I'd love to see Mills come out on top, but they will have to earn everything from here on out.
Heck I look for another 4-4A sweep. That would set a 4-4A final four.
I strongly think That Magnolia could make the final four run or even a trip to Hot Springs. Been often overlooked alot because of our youth on paper. I do think Mills will run the top half of the Bracket them facing McClellan will be interesting though. Panthers taking it one game at a time. Morrilton is first task at hand. I have confidence being at home (where they play their best ball to me) and 9/10 having the best player on the floor when the ball is jumped.
Quote from: MR.GOMAB on February 25, 2019, 12:34:30 pm
I strongly think That Magnolia could make the final four run or even a trip to Hot Springs. Been often overlooked alot because of our youth on paper. I do think Mills will run the top half of the Bracket them facing McClellan will be interesting though. Panthers taking it one game at a time. Morrilton is first task at hand. I have confidence being at home (where they play their best ball to me) and 9/10 having the best player on the floor when the ball is jumped.
Magnolia has to take full advantage of the homecourt. I'd love to see them go up against Blytheville. It's impressive that they have so many freshmen playing heavy minutes.
Mills and McClellan are sworn rivals, so that would be the most interesting matchup on the top half. Mills has beat McClellan pretty soundly twice in conference play, but with a chance to be the only 4A LR team in Hot Springs on the line, things could be different.
I've seen Magnolia a few times not and not impressed. I don't see anyway they get past Blytheville with that offensive scheme they are running over there.
Quote from: scrapdig on February 25, 2019, 01:21:17 pm
I've seen Magnolia a few times not and not impressed. I don't see anyway they get past Blytheville with that offensive scheme they are running over there.
I think they can beat Blytheville (going to be tough) but they have to take care of Morrilton first...I agree Ford has to run the offense to me and get everyone else involved. Garland can light it up. But against whoever 9/10 Ford is going to be the best player on the floor so Magnolia has to take full advantage of that.
Quote from: millsalum on February 25, 2019, 12:54:26 pm
Magnolia has to take full advantage of the homecourt. I'd love to see them go up against Blytheville. It's impressive that they have so many freshmen playing heavy minutes.
Mills and McClellan are sworn rivals, so that would be the most interesting matchup on the top half. Mills has beat McClellan pretty soundly twice in conference play, but with a chance to be the only 4A LR team in Hot Springs on the line, things could be different.
Those freshmen been starting all year. They are good and only going to get better. Ford is #11 overall player in the State only player in 4A that was ranked ahead of him was Peaster at #8. Garland is ranked in the state as well and can fill it up. He has started with Ford all year, they have been playing together since the 3rd grade. Im excited for the future in Magnolia.
Quote from: MR.GOMAB on February 25, 2019, 02:40:36 pm
Those freshmen been starting all year. They are good and only going to get better. Ford is #11 overall player in the State only player in 4A that was ranked ahead of him was Peaster at #8. Garland is ranked in the state as well and can fill it up. He has started with Ford all year, they have been playing together since the 3rd grade. Im excited for the future in Magnolia.
Im sure those kids are good and will be great but I don't put much stock into rankings. Until Kansas offered, they didn't even have McBride in their top 10.
Felts at Westside is committed to ASU. Nothing to thumb your nose at, D1 talent, and they have him ranked 22nd. ??
Quote from: J12 on February 25, 2019, 02:56:31 pm
Im sure those kids are good and will be great but I don't put much stock into rankings. Until Kansas offered, they didn't even have McBride in their top 10.
Felts at Westside is committed to ASU. Nothing to thumb your nose at, D1 talent, and they have him ranked 22nd. ??
I agree rankings can be misleading and I usually don't put too much stock into them either I just seen how much this kid has worked. I was surprised to see Felts ranked at 22. I've watched film on him..He is really good! Only offers Ford has gotten so far are Baylor, Oklahoma State and Texas A&M. I just want these young guys to get the experience under their belt for the years to come.
Anybody else seen the Mills Documentary with their starters? I didn't know they had one...I seen one with Bryant High School.
https://youtu.be/L4tyHg4zLi0