Well it's that time of year. Board is really slow this offseason.
Thoughts on this game? I think lineplay and defense will be the key to this one.
Warren's offensive line will be a veteran group again. Coach said our depth is very good this year.
Offensive linemen should look about like this.
Senior 6'0 253
Junior 6'2 225
Junior 5'10 230
Junior 5'11 195
Senior 5'8 275
Junior 6'1 270
Senior 5'8 180
Senior 6'4 290
Defensive linemen should look like this.
Senior 6'4 290
Junior 6'0 270
Senior 5'10 190
Senior 6'2 180
And rotate in some of the back up OL when needed
Linebackers should look like:
Senior 6'0 190
Senior 5'10 195
Sophomore 6'1 180
Sophomore 5'9 180
And during big games- 6'3 227
DB's should look like this:
Senior 5'10 160
Senior 5'10 170
Junior 5'9 170
Senior 5'8 150
Senior 5'9 190
Others filling spots in secondary:
Sophomore 5'9 160
Junior 5'11 140
Senior 6'0 150
Senior 5'11 165
Offensive production:
QB- 5'8 150
Unsure of backup.
RB-
Junior 5'9 170
Backups- senior 5'9 190 and sophomore 5'9 180.
WR-
Senior 6'3 227
Senior 5'9 170
Senior 5'11 165
Senior 5'10 160
Backups: sophomore 5'9 165, junior 5'9 130, senior 5'10 165, senior 6'0 150, and junior 5'11 140.
HB-
Senior 5'10 190
Punter/k-
Junior 5-9 175
Warren returns 8 starters on offense and 7 on defense from 2017 state runner up team and 13-2 finish.
Batesville Southside
2017 finish was 10-2
2-4a conference champs.
6 starters return on offense and 7 on defense.
Offensive line should look like this.
Senior 6'0 200
Senior 5'9 210
Senior 6'1 210
Junior 5'10 285
Senior 6'3 265
Junior 6'3 315
Junior 6'1 255
Junior 6'1 300
Defensive linemen:
Senior 5'9 250
Senior 6'0 220
Senior 5'9 195
Junior 6'2 230
Senior 6'3 265
Senior 5'9 210
Junior 6'1 215
Batesville speed too much for the Jacks.
Southerners put up a fight, but it won't be enough to slowdown Burks and company. Jacks by 2 td's, at least.
It will start off close but jacks will pull away 3 td's
If we have cramps it will be close.... cramp free 21+ ;D
Southside will keep the game close... until the opening kickoff. Only safe place for the Southerners will be on the bus.
SS secondary will not be able to shut down the Jacks passing attack. Jacks by as many as they want.
Burks will get his, but I think the Southerners will make this a fairly competitive game.
Looking forward to lining up against a true blue blood in the 4A.
Quote from: SouthernerPride on August 13, 2018, 11:12:18 am
Burks will get his, but I think the Southerners will make this a fairly competitive game.
Looking forward to lining up against a true blue blood in the 4A.
That feeling will go away by the half.
Quote from: Oldman on August 13, 2018, 12:22:49 pm
That feeling will go away by the half.
Come on man. We are struggling to fill spots. Hear Warren may be low on numbers again. Possibly looking at 8 man football.
Quote from: AirWarren on August 13, 2018, 12:59:25 pm
Come on man. We are struggling to fill spots. Hear Warren may be low on numbers again. Possibly looking at 8 man football.
Break out the violins :)
Quote from: AirWarren on August 13, 2018, 12:59:25 pm
Come on man. We are struggling to fill spots. Hear Warren may be low on numbers again. Possibly looking at 8 man football.
Hard times for poor little Warren
Quote from: AirWarren on August 13, 2018, 12:59:25 pm
Come on man. We are struggling to fill spots. Hear Warren may be low on numbers again. Possibly looking at 8 man football.
Warren might win. Jacks will need about a dozen turnovers to stay close. Not sure how those Bradley County boys will generate any offense.
Quote from: HeberFan on August 13, 2018, 01:32:47 pm
Warren might win. Jacks will need about a dozen turnovers to stay close. Not sure how those Bradley County boys will generate any offense.
I agree. If you listen to the chatter coming from Southside fans and coaches they plan on announcing their presence with authority against Warren. They are the new beast of the 4A. AirWarren is an entertaining, knowledgeable FF poster. We need to band together to comfort and encourage him after he sees his beloved Lumberjacks laying defeated and in shambles at the feet of the juggernaut that is SS football. Chin up AirWarren, chin up.
Quote from: JessieP on August 13, 2018, 02:57:54 pm
I agree. If you listen to the chatter coming from Southside fans and coaches they plan on announcing their presence with authority against Warren. They are the new beast of the 4A. AirWarren is an entertaining, knowledgeable FF poster. We need to band together to comfort and encourage him after he sees his beloved Lumberjacks laying defeated and in shambles at the feet of the juggernaut that is SS football. Chin up AirWarren, chin up.
*actively sobs......
Quote from: JessieP on August 13, 2018, 02:57:54 pm
I agree. If you listen to the chatter coming from Southside fans and coaches they plan on announcing their presence with authority against Warren.
Where are you hearing this "chatter" at? I haven't seen it on this board.
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on August 13, 2018, 03:22:25 pm
Where are you hearing this "chatter" at? I haven't seen it on this board.
Do you live in Independence County? It's out there.
Quote from: JessieP on August 13, 2018, 02:57:54 pm
I agree. If you listen to the chatter coming from Southside fans and coaches they plan on announcing their presence with authority against Warren. They are the new beast of the 4A. AirWarren is an entertaining, knowledgeable FF poster. We need to band together to comfort and encourage him after he sees his beloved Lumberjacks laying defeated and in shambles at the feet of the juggernaut that is SS football. Chin up AirWarren, chin up.
After playing Southside, I'm guessing Warren will petition to move down to class 3A. Or maybe just give up football and concentrate on soccer. Jacks are good at soccer, after all. Chess... how about a good chess tournament?
Quote from: JessieP on August 13, 2018, 03:24:22 pm
Do you live in Independence County? It's out there.
No, thankfully I don't live there. :D
I haven't been hearing it! All I have heard is we want a good injury free game for both teams!
Quote from: SouthsideSouthernerDad on August 13, 2018, 06:32:08 pm
I haven't been hearing it! All I have heard is we want a good injury free game for both teams!
Same here.
Can't believe it's next weekend.
Quote from: JessieP on August 13, 2018, 02:57:54 pm
I agree. If you listen to the chatter coming from Southside fans and coaches they plan on announcing their presence with authority against Warren. They are the new beast of the 4A. AirWarren is an entertaining, knowledgeable FF poster. We need to band together to comfort and encourage him after he sees his beloved Lumberjacks laying defeated and in shambles at the feet of the juggernaut that is SS football. Chin up AirWarren, chin up.
It really does strike me as odd that you call yourself a Batesville fan, but you spend the majority of your time on the 4A board bashing the boys south of town..
Quote from: SouthernerPride on August 13, 2018, 06:55:52 pm
It really does strike me as odd that you call yourself a Batesville fan, but you spend the majority of your time on the 4A board bashing the boys south of town..
That's only because its the off season. In season he will be bashing the rest of 5A :D :D
Quote from: Overdahill on August 13, 2018, 07:14:34 pm
That's only because its the off season. In season he will be bashing the rest of 5A :D :D
He's coming out of hibernation. I actually laughed out loud at that. Working the rust out Over? Good to see you back at it.
Quote from: SouthernerPride on August 13, 2018, 06:55:52 pm
It really does strike me as odd that you call yourself a Batesville fan, but you spend the majority of your time on the 4A board bashing the boys south of town..
I have 693 post, about 25 of them have referenced Southside. To you that's the majority of my time? 3.6% is a majority? How proud your SS teachers must be.
Quote from: JessieP on August 13, 2018, 08:24:40 pm
I have 693 post, about 25 of them have referenced Southside. To you that's the majority of my time? 3.6% is a majority? How proud your SS teachers must be.
You know how it goes man. 2-3% of the population Itch and moan and get the most attention in this world.
Embrace the power.
Quote from: AirWarren on August 13, 2018, 08:33:24 pm
You know how it goes man. 2-3% of the population Itch and moan and get the most attention in this world.
Embrace the power.
+1.
Quote from: AirWarren on August 13, 2018, 08:33:24 pm
You know how it goes man. 2-3% of the population Itch and moan and get the most attention in this world.
Embrace the power.
Lol. AW with the winning shot. +1
Southerners are much improved, great season last year. But they are no match for Coach Bo's boys. Warren rolls in the second half to an easy victory. But I think Batesville South Side wins their conference.
Quote from: Paperman on August 14, 2018, 07:55:24 pm
Southerners are much improved, great season last year. But they are no match for Coach Bo's boys. Warren rolls in the second half to an easy victory. But I think Batesville South Side wins their conference.
Warren rolls in the first quarter to an easy victory. Stuttgart wins the conference.
Warren by as much as they want....
How long has it been since Warren opened with another 4A team?
Quote from: KASH dba The Lumberjack on August 15, 2018, 10:18:46 am
How long has it been since Warren opened with another 4A team?
Never in the Hembree era.
Quote from: LJ06 on August 15, 2018, 10:22:12 am
Never in the Hembree era.
I believe the last time we opened with a same conference opponent was when we played Nashville in non-conference in the 2000 and 2001 seasons. Both were 3A at the time.
Romeo can fact check that though...
Welcome back, BTW.
Quote from: AirWarren on August 15, 2018, 10:25:16 am
I believe the last time we opened with a same conference opponent was when we played Nashville in non-conference in the 2000 and 2001 seasons. Both were 3A at the time.
Romeo can fact check that though...
Welcome back, BTW.
Thanks good to be back. Already that time of year and looking forward to seeing our guys make another run!
Quote from: AirWarren on August 15, 2018, 10:25:16 am
I believe the last time we opened with a same conference opponent was when we played Nashville in non-conference in the 2000 and 2001 seasons. Both were 3A at the time.
Romeo can fact check that though...
Welcome back, BTW.
Thought those games were in the second week but I'm probably wrong.
Quote from: KASH dba The Lumberjack on August 15, 2018, 10:50:17 am
Thought those games were in the second week but I'm probably wrong.
I think you're correct.
Stuttgart, Nashville, Monticello
Stuttgart, Nashville, Monticello
Think that was the Nonconference schedule those years.
Quote from: AirWarren on August 15, 2018, 10:52:59 am
I think you're correct.
Stuttgart, Nashville, Monticello
Stuttgart, Nashville, Monticello
Think that was the Nonconference schedule those years.
Yeah it's been, I'm assuming, the 90s since we last started out against a same classification foe.
I remember in 2012 y'all opened against Shiloh. I can't remember if they were 4A or not.
Quote from: bulldoghistorian on August 15, 2018, 02:43:05 pm
I remember in 2012 y'all opened against Shiloh. I can't remember if they were 4A or not.
Weren't they 5A that cycle?
Yep, this will be the first time we've opened the season against an opponent in the same classification under Bo Hembree. Shiloh Christian was 5A when we played them in 2012. We played Nashville in week three in 2000 and 2001 (won 27-14 in 2000, won 76-42 in 2001). The last time we've opened the season against a team in the same class was Hope in 1997 (won 32-14). Ironically, Warren's current basketball coach played for Hope at that game. In the early 90s, we opened against Hermitage for the Tomato Bowl. We played Lake Village in the first game every year from 1970-1990.
Quote from: Romeo on August 15, 2018, 03:29:57 pm
Yep, this will be the first time we've opened the season against an opponent in the same classification under Bo Hembree. Shiloh Christian was 5A when we played them in 2012. We played Nashville in week three in 2000 and 2001 (won 27-14 in 2000, won 76-42 in 2001). The last time we've opened the season against a team in the same class was Hope in 1997 (won 32-14). Ironically, Warren's current basketball coach played for Hope at that game. In the early 90s, we opened against Hermitage for the Tomato Bowl. We played Lake Village in the first game every year from 1970-1990.
This guy......
Legit.
Quote from: Romeo on August 15, 2018, 03:29:57 pm
Yep, this will be the first time we've opened the season against an opponent in the same classification under Bo Hembree. Shiloh Christian was 5A when we played them in 2012. We played Nashville in week three in 2000 and 2001 (won 27-14 in 2000, won 76-42 in 2001). The last time we've opened the season against a team in the same class was Hope in 1997 (won 32-14). Ironically, Warren's current basketball coach played for Hope at that game. In the early 90s, we opened against Hermitage for the Tomato Bowl. We played Lake Village in the first game every year from 1970-1990.
Paul Harvey of Warren sports. And now you know the rest of the story.
Does any other team in the state besides Warren have 2 sec commits?
That is a good question.
Quote from: scrapman on August 15, 2018, 07:14:00 pm
Does any other team in the state besides Warren have 2 sec commits?
Bentonville could eventually.
And Robinson has 2 kids with sec offers.
Quote from: STUNNA on August 15, 2018, 08:40:22 pm
And Robinson has 2 kids with sec offers.
Don't realize Robinson did. Guess it slipped my mind. The DE and ? Big OL?
Quote from: scrapman on August 15, 2018, 08:44:25 pm
Don't realize Robinson did. Guess it slipped my mind. The DE and ? Big OL?
Williams and Harris. They also had a kid sign with Army.
Zach Williams(D.E) -committed to Arkansas
Davis Wofford (D.E)- committed to Army
Emarion Harris(OL)(class of 2022) offer from Alabama.
Impressive
The Southerners have a small fan base?
Will the scrimmage be televised tonight on NFHS?
Also, I'm excited about the game being played at NLR. From the interstate, it looks like a great stadium.
I think Southside has a very solid team--probably the best team in school history. I think they're going to struggle, though, with Warren's speed and athleticism. Warren is very, very good. I think that Southside will be competitive, but Warren will put this one away using big, breakaway plays. I like the Jacks by at least a couple of scores, and that's no shot at Southside. I just think Warren's that good.
Quote from: KASH dba The Lumberjack on August 16, 2018, 08:27:39 am
The Southerners have a small fan base?
Compared to Warren yes! I believe 2018 will be our 12th or 13 th season of High School football, so it is still a very young program. I am hoping for a good turnout for the upcoming game with no injuries!
Quote from: SouthsideSouthernerDad on August 16, 2018, 09:16:33 am
Compared to Warren yes! I believe 2018 will be our 12th or 13 th season of High School football, so it is still a very young program. I am hoping for a good turnout for the upcoming game with no injuries!
I didn't realize the school had been around that long. Hoping for no injuries also. These are the cool games that kids and fans will remember.
Quote from: KASH dba The Lumberjack on August 16, 2018, 10:01:39 am
I didn't realize the school had been around that long. Hoping for no injuries also. These are the cool games that kids and fans will remember.
as a school, I believe Southside has been around since the late 30's/early 40's.. never fielded our first varsity football team until 2006 though.
Quote from: AirWarren on August 15, 2018, 08:46:46 pm
Williams and Harris. They also had a kid sign with Army.
Zach Williams(D.E) -committed to Arkansas
Davis Wofford (D.E)- committed to Army
Emarion Harris(OL)(class of 2022) offer from Alabama.
That makes Harris a ninth-grader ?
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on August 16, 2018, 12:34:37 pm
Yes
Harris has an offer from Alabama, but, not from Arkansas or Arkansas State? What ????
Quote from: HeberFan on August 16, 2018, 12:38:29 pm
Harris has an offer from Alabama, but, not from Arkansas or Arkansas State? What ????
Their dad was a former Arkansas Razorback too.
Quote from: AirWarren on August 16, 2018, 12:40:02 pm
Their dad was a former Arkansas Razorback too.
And people wonder why Alabama is the best.....
Good luck to Warren, I'm hoping to get to make this game!
Come second week of November I may not be wanting Warren to have luck though. So good luck everyone, stay injury free!
Is there a scrimmage tonight at warren??
Quote from: Dogpound2010 on August 16, 2018, 05:38:49 pm
Is there a scrimmage tonight at warren??
Yes. Believe so.
What time is kickoff
I heard 630.
McGehee at Warren tonight
Score?
SS has no hope of winning, unless Warren has a fan come onto the field every offensive snap.
Heard Miller and Burks were men against boys again like expected. Both also are wearing new numbers this year. Buddy told me Miller was the best player on the field tonight... looked like a new man.
You end up hearing a final score by chance? Apparently NO ONE can track down a final, and I mean NO ONE!
-Kyle
Warren 42 Mcgehee 10 Final
Quote from: STUNNA on August 16, 2018, 11:38:48 pm
Heard Miller and Burks were men against boys again like expected. Both also are wearing new numbers this year. Buddy told me Miller was the best player on the field tonight... looked like a new man.
Do you know what there new numbers will be?
Hopefully there is a write up on SRC.
Quote from: STUNNA on August 17, 2018, 07:50:51 am
How'd they look?
I didn't see the game. I was just texted the score by someone who was there.
Quote from: Romeo on August 17, 2018, 08:17:45 am
I didn't see the game. I was just texted the score by someone who was there.
It sounds like we handled business. The mission begins.
Quote from: Oldman on August 17, 2018, 08:13:48 am
We got cheated.
Couldn't find the right gate to enter?
Quote from: STUNNA on August 17, 2018, 09:16:09 am
howd they look oldman?
I didn't go. I'm guessing Warren looked good.
this game has the potential to be a really good game for at most a half, the only hope SS has is if Warren starts cramping in the heat and they don't.
Looking forward to seeing this game.
https://katv.com/sports/high-school/31-teams-in-31-days-warren-lumberjacks
I heard Warren used a bunch of trick plays and McGehee fumbled a dozen times, so the Jacks were able to squeak out a win. Plus, I heard McGehee was confused about the game and sent their junior high squad to play. :o)
Quote from: AirWarren on August 17, 2018, 08:49:23 am
Couldn't find the right gate to enter?
This is getting old AirWarren.lol People don't think it's funny anymore!lol
Quote from: Oldbadger on August 20, 2018, 10:02:53 am
This is getting old AirWarren.lol People don't think it's funny anymore!lol
We are just glad to not be 8 man this year.
Quote from: Oldbadger on August 20, 2018, 10:02:53 am
This is getting old AirWarren.lol People don't think it's funny anymore!lol
I'm thinking the next time Warren makes it to WMS (this year), they should take their gate attendants with them to guard the field access gates.
No way any random fan can make it past them onto the playing field!
Quote from: hogfan10 on August 20, 2018, 10:27:28 am
I'm thinking the next time Warren makes it to WMS (this year), they should take their gate attendants with them to guard the field access gates.
No way any random fan can make it past them onto the playing field!
That is actually a great idea. LOL
Quote from: HeberFan on August 20, 2018, 09:15:22 am
I heard Warren used a bunch of trick plays and McGehee fumbled a dozen times, so the Jacks were able to squeak out a win. Plus, I heard McGehee was confused about the game and sent their junior high squad to play. :o)
They ran the Statue of Liberty every down.
Quote from: bigchief72455 on August 20, 2018, 10:37:15 am
They ran the Statue of Liberty every down.
Great play to have
I know a good play for Warren -- Give It To Treylon!
Quote from: scrapman on August 15, 2018, 07:14:00 pm
Does any other team in the state besides Warren have 2 sec commits?
Crossett has a WR that is getting looks from Arkansas as far as SEC. He also has looks from Arkansas State, Arkansas Tech and UAPB.
Quote from: HeberFan on August 20, 2018, 02:01:34 pm
I know a good play for Warren -- Give It To Treylon!
Can Treylon give it to Treylon?
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on August 13, 2018, 03:45:00 pm
No, thankfully I don't live there. :D
Seriously, someone from the Delta badmouthing anywhere else in the world? That's rich...
Quote from: The_Pioneer on August 20, 2018, 08:29:42 pm
Seriously, someone from the Delta badmouthing anywhere else in the world? That's rich...
I live in Little Rock, the Capital City. :)
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on August 20, 2018, 09:03:54 pm
I live in Little Rock, the Capital City. :)
Not sure that's any better than the delta!
Mosquitoes vs getting shot
Warren- however much they want
SS- 20
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on August 20, 2018, 09:03:54 pm
I live in Little Rock, the Capital City. :)
Say it with pride! I LIVE IN LITTLE ROCK! THE SECOND MOST DANGEROUS CITY IN AMERICA, 15 YEARS RUNNING. They actually held the top spot in 2007, 2008 and 2011. But by all means, puff out that chest and badmouth the smaller towns.
Quote from: SouthsideSouthernerDad on August 20, 2018, 10:07:49 pm
Not sure that's any better than the delta!
Mosquitoes vs getting shot
Nah, I don't live in the hood.
Quote from: JessieP on August 20, 2018, 11:59:46 pm
Say it with pride! I LIVE IN LITTLE ROCK! THE SECOND MOST DANGEROUS CITY IN AMERICA, 15 YEARS RUNNING. They actually held the top spot in 2007, 2008 and 2011. But by all means, puff out that chest and badmouth the smaller towns.
I will. I love living and working in and around Little Rock. It is a city.....it's going to have it's problems. There are some areas of small towns I wouldn't go into at night. Just know where you are and everything is usually fine. We take arch to Roosevelt to MLK into work everyday to avoid 630. Sure you see some interesting things, but we are never bothered. There are things I miss about Warren though and some things I don't. I've learned to appreciate small town Arkansas over the years for sure....and living out in the woods lol.
(http://grouptravelleader.com/goingonfaith/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2017/12/Little-Rock-Conference-Preview-2017-650x368.jpg)
(http://www.hotelroomsearch.net/im/2015/04/little-rock-arkansas-7.jpg)
(http://images.midwestliving.mdpcdn.com/sites/midwestliving.com/files/102945734.jpg)
(http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/kuar/files/styles/medium/public/201510/pinnacle-mtn.jpg)
^When we lived in Maumelle, we had a view of pinnacle from our driveway....it was awesome. That drive over the 430 bridge is one of the best views in the state, IMO haha.
Arkansas is a beautiful state.
Quote from: AirWarren on August 21, 2018, 08:33:13 am
I will. I love living and working in and around Little Rock. It is a city.....it's going to have it's problems. There are some areas of small towns I wouldn't go into at night. Just know where you are and everything is usually fine. We take arch to Roosevelt to MLK into work everyday to avoid 630. Sure you see some interesting things, but we are never bothered. There are things I miss about Warren though and some things I don't. I've learned to appreciate small town Arkansas over the years for sure....and living out in the woods lol.
(http://grouptravelleader.com/goingonfaith/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2017/12/Little-Rock-Conference-Preview-2017-650x368.jpg)
(http://www.hotelroomsearch.net/im/2015/04/little-rock-arkansas-7.jpg)
(http://images.midwestliving.mdpcdn.com/sites/midwestliving.com/files/102945734.jpg)
(http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/kuar/files/styles/medium/public/201510/pinnacle-mtn.jpg)
^When we lived in Maumelle, we had a view of pinnacle from our driveway....it was awesome. That drive over the 430 bridge is one of the best views in the state, IMO haha.
Arkansas is a beautiful state.
yeah can't beat small town Arkansas for sure
Quote from: JessieP on August 20, 2018, 11:59:46 pm
Say it with pride! I LIVE IN LITTLE ROCK! THE SECOND MOST DANGEROUS CITY IN AMERICA, 15 YEARS RUNNING. They actually held the top spot in 2007, 2008 and 2011. But by all means, puff out that chest and badmouth the smaller towns.
You got a link for that list? I'd like to check it out.
I didn't badmouth any town, I'd just rather live in a city than in the middle of nowhere. But that's just me.
This used to be a football thread, right?
I say Warren wins by 57 touchdowns.
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on August 21, 2018, 08:59:09 am
You got a link for that list? I'd like to check it out.
I didn't badmouth any town, I'd just rather live in a city than in the middle of nowhere. But that's just me.
I guess Stuttgart is part of that"nowhere" you speak of!
Quote from: Trojanbird on August 21, 2018, 01:55:57 pm
I guess Stuttgart is part of that"nowhere" you speak of!
No, it's close enough to Little Rock not to qualify.
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on August 21, 2018, 02:13:06 pm
No, it's close enough to Little Rock not to qualify.
In the era of non horse and buggy travel, that's any and ever where in the state.
Quote from: KASH dba The Lumberjack on August 21, 2018, 06:24:48 pm
In the era of non horse and buggy travel, that's any and ever where in the state.
Has to be with an hour to be close enough for me. :D
This thread derail is what happens when you start the thread more than a week before the game. Lol
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on August 21, 2018, 06:57:37 pm
Has to be with an hour to be close enough for me. :D
This thread derail is what happens when you start the thread more than a week before the game. Lol
Yep, think us Warren guys are anxious and since the SS posters don't trash talk much, this might be as good as it gets.
Quote from: KASH dba The Lumberjack on August 21, 2018, 10:26:54 pm
Yep, think us Warren guys are anxious and since the SS posters don't trash talk much, this might be as good as it gets.
I'm sure the thread will start rolling come Friday.
A little advice for Southside posters:
Might as well talk about how good Warren is before the game, because, you'll sure be doing that after the game.
Warren sucks and the Southerners roll...
over and play dead!
Southside might win the coin toss ?
Quote from: cuckoobird on August 22, 2018, 02:28:22 pm
Warren sucks and the Southerners roll...
i can assure you there will be no rolling over and playing possum by the Southerners this Saturday.
If Warren stays healthy and doesn't win State is it bad coaching?
Quote from: scrapman on August 22, 2018, 08:46:23 pm
If Warren stays healthy and doesn't win State is it bad coaching?
no, they'll blame it on a crazy fan again.
Quote from: SouthernerPride on August 22, 2018, 08:58:44 pm
no, they'll blame it on a crazy fan again.
And there it is ladies and gentleman, that Southside arrogance. I'm telling you, 2 years in the playoffs and their elite. It is a delusion that defies logic. Who can ever forget the classic boast last year of "Arkadelphia and Southside, two of the best defenses around. I expect a low scoring battle". Some fool forgot to tell Arky. I guess you can't get too tough feasting on powerhouses like Cave City and CAC.
Speaking of arrogance!
Quote from: scrapman on August 22, 2018, 08:46:23 pm
If Warren stays healthy and doesn't win State is it bad coaching?
Wouldn't say bad, maybe sub par.
Quote from: Trojanbird on August 22, 2018, 11:30:12 pm
Speaking of arrogance!
shh Jessie still doesn't know he is exactly who he speaks about.
Quote from: scrapman on August 22, 2018, 08:46:23 pm
If Warren stays healthy and doesn't win State is it bad coaching?
getting to state is never bad coaching.. lol...
Heck the fan gave them another shot last year to win because poor coaching had them standing around with the clock ticking. Bo should give that kid a bonus of some sort
Quote from: cuckoobird on August 23, 2018, 07:40:49 am
Heck the fan gave them another shot last year to win because poor coaching had them standing around with the clock ticking. Bo should give that kid a bonus of some sort
Yeah that fan on the field play backfired. Nobody ever thought they would penalize us for a non participant being on the field as time was winding down. The kids bonus was based on a win, it got pro rated due to the loss.
Man, I think I'm the only person on here that's already put last year's game in the past. Heck, of the three title game losses the Jacks have, last year's is probably the least painful, to me. It was just a crazy, wild ending and I agree--Warren should have been better prepared in the closing minutes. The one that still haunts me is the loss to Nashville, Jarius was in--end of discussion. The official that made that call, he'll have to answer for that sin one day. The Lord knows.....
Anyways, I'm so ready to see what Warren can do this season. Hearing Bo talk about this years team, you can tell how excited he is for what this season may hold. The offensive should be prolific, even by Warren standards. The defense is coming together and should be another strong unit, especially with the playmakers we have on that side of the ball. I also think the biggest thing this team is playing with is the HUGE chip on their shoulder. They hated the way last season ended and I think they're out to prove, without a doubt, that they are the best team in class 4A. I think you'll see a very focused, determined football team and that comes down to more than coaching. These seniors want to go out as champions.
I've told a few friends that still follow the program that I think this season could be historic in categories like margin of victory, etc. I think they are out to absolutely bludgeon teams on their path to title #5, and I think they will absolutely win Class 4A this season. Wire to wire. Wishing them the best of luck and a healthy, injury free season. Go Jacks!
-Kyle
They are definitely the odds on favorite and the team everyone would like a win over this season.
Quote from: bigchief72455 on August 23, 2018, 08:54:26 am
They are definitely the odds on favorite and the team everyone would like a win over this season.
Warren vs Arky and Robinson should be classic this year if they happen
Quote from: FF Secretary of Defense Flap_Jack48 on August 23, 2018, 08:34:16 am
Man, I think I'm the only person on here that's already put last year's game in the past. Heck, of the three title game losses the Jacks have, last year's is probably the least painful, to me. It was just a crazy, wild ending and I agree--Warren should have been better prepared in the closing minutes. The one that still haunts me is the loss to Nashville, Jarius was in--end of discussion. The official that made that call, he'll have to answer for that sin one day. The Lord knows.....
Anyways, I'm so ready to see what Warren can do this season. Hearing Bo talk about this years team, you can tell how excited he is for what this season may hold. The offensive should be prolific, even by Warren standards. The defense is coming together and should be another strong unit, especially with the playmakers we have on that side of the ball. I also think the biggest thing this team is playing with is the HUGE chip on their shoulder. They hated the way last season ended and I think they're out to prove, without a doubt, that they are the best team in class 4A. I think you'll see a very focused, determined football team and that comes down to more than coaching. These seniors want to go out as champions.
I've told a few friends that still follow the program that I think this season could be historic in categories like margin of victory, etc. I think they are out to absolutely bludgeon teams on their path to title #5, and I think they will absolutely win Class 4A this season. Wire to wire. Wishing them the best of luck and a healthy, injury free season. Go Jacks!
-Kyle
Not sure about this. Warren has a history of not getting it done when they have D1/NFL players on the team. This is said to be the best of them all. Will history repeat?
Southside seems to think they'll jack the Jacks to start the season.
Quote from: Overdahill on August 23, 2018, 09:01:16 am
Warren vs Arky and Robinson should be classic this year if they happen
Wonder how the brackets will align. If 2 of theses teams wind up in the same bracket it could be crazy.
Quote from: bigchief72455 on August 23, 2018, 09:42:09 am
Wonder how the brackets will align. If 2 of theses teams wind up in the same bracket it could be crazy.
Doesn't matter. Southside Pride is going to win it all, remember? :o)
Quote from: scrapman on August 23, 2018, 09:21:39 am
Not sure about this. Warren has a history of not getting it done when they have D1/NFL players on the team. This is said to be the best of them all. Will history repeat?
Those teams came earlier in Bo's career. I think he's finally focused on the thing that was hampering those team--the trenches. Warren will be as strong on both the offensive and defensive lines as they've been in his tenure. These last few years Warren has been blessed to have not only studs in the backfield and edges, but they've been really big and athletic on both the offensive and defensive lines.
I'm just going on record now. This Warren team, in my humble opinion, has the potential to be Bo's best in his 19 years at Warren. These seniors have the right mindset, it's not about them, it's about the team. Treylon especially is the type of player every coach would want. He's not focused on getting his, he wants to get it for his teammates. This is a really special group and you can hear it when Bo talks about them.
Warren is on a mission, I wouldn't want to see them line up against my team. No matter who you root for. Season starts for the Jacks on Saturday, the march for title #5 begins. Get it boys!
Quote from: FF Secretary of Defense Flap_Jack48 on August 23, 2018, 09:57:45 am
Those teams came earlier in Bo's career. I think he's finally focused on the thing that was hampering those team--the trenches. Warren will be as strong on both the offensive and defensive lines as they've been in his tenure. These last few years Warren has been blessed to have not only studs in the backfield and edges, but they've been really big and athletic on both the offensive and defensive lines.
I'm just going on record now. This Warren team, in my humble opinion, has the potential to be Bo's best in his 19 years at Warren. These seniors have the right mindset, it's not about them, it's about the team. Treylon especially is the type of player every coach would want. He's not focused on getting his, he wants to get it for his teammates. This is a really special group and you can hear it when Bo talks about them.
Warren is on a mission, I wouldn't want to see them line up against my team. No matter who you root for. Season starts for the Jacks on Saturday, the march for title #5 begins. Get it boys!
Yeah, but, Southside has PRIDE and has made the playoffs twice in a row. They're going to jack the Jacks in this game, remember? :o)
Could Warren win the state title in 8 man football?
Quote from: OrangeCrush. on August 23, 2018, 10:00:34 am
Could Warren win the state title in 8 man football?
Well, at least they would do well in the playoffs. Might be smart to change to 8-man football, since they would not have to face Southside Pride!
Quote from: scrapman on August 23, 2018, 09:21:39 am
Not sure about this. Warren has a history of not getting it done when they have D1/NFL players on the team. This is said to be the best of them all. Will history repeat?
Since Nashville has the worlds greatest Jr. High team over eight years running, why does that not translate to more State championships? Got to be coaching!
Here's the truth, or the way I see it. The BS call that cost us a championship to Nashville still weighs heavy on Ol' Bo. So much so that Nashville came to Warren the year after and beat us again. Those two losses caused him to be too anxious when the Scrappers came to Jim Hurley in '15 and because of the anxiety and a kid named Snell, the Scrappers won again. Other than those two games, show me where his coaching lost games. Are you saying he's not a good coach? Are you saying he didn't have his players prepared to play? Is he not allowed to make mistakes at his job like everyone else? There's NO OTHER COACH around that that can take 30-35 kids a year and have the success he has with his program at Warren. Not talking 30 players, maybe 18-20 players because it's been a long time since we haven't had to have kids go both ways. Yet almost every year, we make deep runs into the playoffs.
Quote from: KASH dba The Lumberjack on August 23, 2018, 10:37:14 am
Since Nashville has the worlds greatest Jr. High team over eight years running, why does that not translate to more State championships? Got to be coaching!
Here's the truth, or the way I see it. The BS call that cost us a championship to Nashville still weighs heavy on Ol' Bo. So much so that Nashville came to Warren the year after and beat us again. Those two losses caused him to be too anxious when the Scrappers came to Jim Hurley in '15 and because of the anxiety and a kid named Snell, the Scrappers won again. Other than those two games, show me where his coaching lost games. Are you saying he's not a good coach? Are you saying he didn't have his players prepared to play? Is he not allowed to make mistakes at his job like everyone else? There's NO OTHER COACH around that that can take 30-35 kids a year and have the success he has with his program at Warren. Not talking 30 players, maybe 18-20 players because it's been a long time since we haven't had to have kids go both ways. Yet almost every year, we make deep runs into the playoffs.
Warren does a great job and has a quality program. When facing the best teams in the state, late in the playoffs, some games will be won and others lost. Pretty simple. Nobody would say the Buffalo Bills were a bad football team for losing four Superbowl games, or, Barry Sanders was a bad running back for not winning a title.
Quote from: HeberFan on August 23, 2018, 09:59:39 am
Yeah, but, Southside has PRIDE and has made the playoffs twice in a row. They're going to jack the Jacks in this game, remember? :o)
Glad to see we got such a big Southside fan in Heber! LOL
Hoping for a injury free game for both teams!
Quote from: SouthsideSouthernerDad on August 23, 2018, 11:03:23 am
Glad to see we got such a big Southside fan in Heber! LOL
Hoping for a injury free game for both teams!
Thanks for the response. Some of your fellow Southerner fans have been a bit braggadocious this fall. Just a gentle reminder that winning is fickle, and, being humble is always in style. Best of luck this year. Seems your Batesville crew has another good squad this year.
Quote from: KASH dba The Lumberjack on August 23, 2018, 10:37:14 am
Since Nashville has the worlds greatest Jr. High team over eight years running, why does that not translate to more State championships? Got to be coaching!
Here's the truth, or the way I see it. The BS call that cost us a championship to Nashville still weighs heavy on Ol' Bo. So much so that Nashville came to Warren the year after and beat us again. Those two losses caused him to be too anxious when the Scrappers came to Jim Hurley in '15 and because of the anxiety and a kid named Snell, the Scrappers won again. Other than those two games, show me where his coaching lost games. Are you saying he's not a good coach? Are you saying he didn't have his players prepared to play? Is he not allowed to make mistakes at his job like everyone else? There's NO OTHER COACH around that that can take 30-35 kids a year and have the success he has with his program at Warren. Not talking 30 players, maybe 18-20 players because it's been a long time since we haven't had to have kids go both ways. Yet almost every year, we make deep runs into the playoffs.
Wow. I just asked a question and stated a fact. Hit a nerve I guess. I think Warren is loaded too. It doesn't matter if you have 30 or 100 players. If you have the right 30 you can beat anyone.
Quote from: KASH dba The Lumberjack on August 23, 2018, 10:37:14 am
Since Nashville has the worlds greatest Jr. High team over eight years running, why does that not translate to more State championships? Got to be coaching!
Here's the truth, or the way I see it. The BS call that cost us a championship to Nashville still weighs heavy on Ol' Bo. So much so that Nashville came to Warren the year after and beat us again. Those two losses caused him to be too anxious when the Scrappers came to Jim Hurley in '15 and because of the anxiety and a kid named Snell, the Scrappers won again. Other than those two games, show me where his coaching lost games. Are you saying he's not a good coach? Are you saying he didn't have his players prepared to play? Is he not allowed to make mistakes at his job like everyone else? There's NO OTHER COACH around that that can take 30-35 kids a year and have the success he has with his program at Warren. Not talking 30 players, maybe 18-20 players because it's been a long time since we haven't had to have kids go both ways. Yet almost every year, we make deep runs into the playoffs.
When Warren plays anyone else Bo is a great coach, but when they play Nashville Bo always gets out coached. That's what I got out of this.
Quote from: HeberFan on August 23, 2018, 11:13:57 am
Thanks for the response. Some of your fellow Southerner fans have been a bit braggadocious this fall. Just a gentle reminder that winning is fickle, and, being humble is always in style. Best of luck this year. Seems your Batesville crew has another good squad this year.
Last year the Southerners reminded me of the 2011 Panthers a good record against mediocre teams. A little humility to start the season maybe good for them.
I'm sure the Pioneers will be ready come the playoffs! Coach King has a great program.
Quote from: SouthsideSouthernerDad on August 23, 2018, 12:13:04 pm
Last year the Southerners reminded me of the 2011 Panthers a good record against mediocre teams. A little humility to start the season maybe good for them.
I'm sure the Pioneers will be ready come the playoffs! Coach King has a great program.
Everything changes once the playoffs start. Lack of speed hurts the average teams.
Quote from: OrangeCrush. on August 23, 2018, 12:04:05 pm
When Warren plays anyone else Bo is a great coach, but when they play Nashville Bo always gets out coached. That's what I got out of this.
Thats what I said. The last two times Warren and Nashville played, Bo and/or his staff was out coached.
But I'm also saying that if D1 players shouldn't ever get beat, then neither should the G.O.A.T. Jr high team. If we're going to bring up should've would've's, then every year except one in the last 8 has been coaching failures at Nashville.
As far as players, I've heard numerous posters, especially Nashville, whining about not averaging 25 players per grade. By the time you factor in injuries and other reasons kids can't play, that the size of our team. Being able to pick between 60-80 kids versus 30-40 kids makes things a lot easier when putting in subs. Even Obama health care math can't prove that wrong.
I'm sure we will find out about speed Saturday lol!
Anyone demeaning a coach for championship game losses, sees things backwards.
Quote from: SouthsideSouthernerDad on August 23, 2018, 12:36:37 pm
I'm sure we will find out about speed Saturday lol!
Yeah, find out about speed in the worst of ways. Warren will dominate, but, that doesn't have to impact the rest of the season. First three games are just prep work for conference.
Quote from: HeberFan on August 23, 2018, 12:38:45 pm
Yeah, find out about speed in the worst of ways. Warren will dominate, but, that doesn't have to impact the rest of the season. First three games are just prep work for conference.
Warren is a very talented and well coached! So it will be a struggle for the Southerners, but I'm just proud of the progress we have made because in 2014 we were 0-10!
Quote from: HeberFan on August 23, 2018, 12:37:11 pm
Anyone demeaning a coach for championship game losses, sees things backwards.
bingo...
Quote from: SouthsideSouthernerDad on August 23, 2018, 12:56:04 pm
Warren is a very talented and well coached! So it will be a struggle for the Southerners, but I'm just proud of the progress we have made because in 2014 we were 0-10!
I agree, that program has turned around fast. I remember about six years ago, Southside had really cool helmet design -- a lot like Navy had at the same time.
Quote from: STUNNA on August 23, 2018, 01:05:41 pm
bingo...
yep, people used to dog Buck James until after he left and took his success with him
I'll take Jim Kelly, both as a quarterback and a man of character, any day.
Quote from: SouthsideSouthernerDad on August 23, 2018, 12:56:04 pm
Warren is a very talented and well coached! So it will be a struggle for the Southerners, but I'm just proud of the progress we have made because in 2014 we were 0-10!
Great post! Most logical people would agree 100%. Southside has come a long way. They were a laughingstock 3 years ago to a respectable team now. That is an impressive walk in 2 years. The issue to some is you have a very small, but vocal, group of people who are proclaiming them among the elite, nose to nose with the Warrens, Arkys and Robinsons. The majority of people I know here in Batesville rooted hard for SS during the growing pains, everyone pulled for them. In 2016 they got over the hump and made the playoffs and almost instantly you started hearing "We want Batesville" or "We're the Kings of Independence County", not all but some fans did. It was a case of "Cool your jets little doggie". Knocking heads with Cave City isn't exactly like lining up against Wynne, Jonesboro or PA. But to people like yourself who live in reality I would say yes, you should be very proud. They are a good team.
Quote from: JessieP on August 23, 2018, 01:16:09 pm
Great post! Most logical people would agree 100%. Southside has come a long way. They were a laughingstock 3 years ago to a respectable team now. That is an impressive walk in 2 years. The issue to some is you have a very small, but vocal, group of people who are proclaiming them among the elite, nose to nose with the Warrens, Arkys and Robinsons. The majority of people I know here in Batesville rooted hard for SS during the growing pains, everyone pulled for them. In 2016 they got over the hump and made the playoffs and almost instantly you started hearing "We want Batesville" or "We're the Kings of Independence County", not all but some fans did. It was a case of "Cool your jets little doggie". Knocking heads with Cave City isn't exactly like lining up against Wynne, Jonesboro or PA. But to people like yourself who live in reality I would say yes, you should be very proud. They are a good team.
A mature, quality program doesn't verbally compare itself with any other team. The best programs just produce quality, young men and win games. But even the winning is elusive. Lots of excellent coaches and programs that don't make the headlines.
This may be a great game and all but the true elite this season is this new team called OPEN. They are on everybody's schedule and don't look to lose at all.
Quote from: KASH dba The Lumberjack on August 23, 2018, 12:34:17 pm
Thats what I said. The last two times Warren and Nashville played, Bo and/or his staff was out coached.
But I'm also saying that if D1 players shouldn't ever get beat, then neither should the G.O.A.T. Jr high team. If we're going to bring up should've would've's, then every year except one in the last 8 has been coaching failures at Nashville.
As far as players, I've heard numerous posters, especially Nashville, whining about not averaging 25 players per grade. By the time you factor in injuries and other reasons kids can't play, that the size of our team. Being able to pick between 60-80 kids versus 30-40 kids makes things a lot easier when putting in subs. Even Obama health care math can't prove that wrong.
Maybe the Nashville coaches were giving warren players the fourarm shiver all throughout the games...
Quote from: cuckoobird on August 23, 2018, 02:00:55 pm
Maybe the Nashville coaches were giving warren players the fourarm shiver all throughout the games...
Maybe both teams were outstanding, and, Nashville just happened to win both games. From a math standpoint, that's pretty likely.
Girolamo Cardona could have told us that. :o)
Ultimately it is not about win or lose! It is about building respectful young men!
Bo just can't beat Nashville in the playoffs.
0-4
Quote from: OrangeCrush. on August 23, 2018, 02:15:09 pm
Bo just can't beat Nashville in the playoffs.
Bo has never played Nashville in the playoffs. Warren has played Nashville. There are countless reasons a team wins or loses. Your deficiency of erudition on this matter is piteous.
Quote from: OrangeCrush. on August 23, 2018, 02:15:09 pm
Bo just can't beat Nashville in the playoffs.
0-4
give your kids and coaches some credit... stop acting like they weren't good enough to beat Warren. And get back to being good again and maybe they can play again.
Quote from: HeberFan on August 23, 2018, 02:19:19 pm
Bo has never played Nashville in the playoffs. Warren has played Nashville. There are countless reasons a team wins or loses. Your deficiency of erudition on this matter is piteous.
If you don't get it, it is best to stay out of it. I wouldn't expect someone from Heber to get this.
Quote from: OrangeCrush. on August 23, 2018, 02:22:17 pm
If you don't get it, it is best to stay out of it. I wouldn't expect someone from Heber to get this.
You blame the head coach when a team loses. We get it.
Quote from: HeberFan on August 23, 2018, 02:24:09 pm
You blame the head coach when a team loses. We get it.
Oh boy. Where have you been the last decade? Do you not know that Warren and Nashville fans pick on each other just for the heck of it?
Quote from: bigchief72455 on August 23, 2018, 01:36:45 pm
This may be a great game and all but the true elite this season is this new team called OPEN. They are on everybody's schedule and don't look to lose at all.
Not only that they are cocky. How many times have you seen "Open 24/7".
Quote from: OrangeCrush. on August 23, 2018, 02:28:24 pm
Oh boy. Where have you been the last decade? Do you not know that Warren and Nashville fans pick on each other just for the heck of it?
I thought you were serious about Bo. Of course fans pick on each other, it's a sport in itself.
Quote from: JessieP on August 23, 2018, 02:40:35 pm
Not only that they are cocky. How many times have you seen "Open 24/7".
I guess if they can talk the talk and walk it as well then there isn't much anyone can do but nothing and like it.
Quote from: HeberFan on August 23, 2018, 01:05:50 pm
I agree, that program has turned around fast. I remember about six years ago, Southside had really cool helmet design -- a lot like Navy had at the same time.
You should see the really nice Chrome Navy helmet that was done by someone who customizes helmets. It's displayed in Coach Simpson's office. The guy donated the helmet to Coach Simpson and the 2016 SS Southerners team along with the customized display in spring of 2017 for their 10 year anniversary and for the great season they had as well.
Can someone tell me who will be home side and visitor side?
Quote from: AirWarren on August 24, 2018, 09:00:59 am
Can someone tell me who will be home side and visitor side?
Who cares. All ya'll should just mix and mingle.
Quote from: bigchief72455 on August 24, 2018, 09:47:31 am
Who cares. All ya'll should just mix and mingle.
I dislike people. So that won't work for me.
Quote from: AirWarren on August 24, 2018, 09:52:27 am
I dislike people. So that won't work for me.
LOL. That and the Warren folks may scare the SS folks.
Quote from: bigchief72455 on August 24, 2018, 09:58:42 am
LOL. That and the Warren folks may scare the SS folks.
Probably the other way around.
Let's just all watch Traylon and have fun.
Quote from: HeberFan on August 24, 2018, 10:29:29 am
Let's just all watch Traylon and have fun.
Who is Traylon?
Quote from: STUNNA on August 24, 2018, 11:29:42 am
Who is Traylon?
I hear Treylon is some kid who barely made Warren's team. I'm pulling for him to get some playing time. Maybe, if the game is already out of reach, he can play some late in the fourth quarter.
Yeah maybe he'll make some good play's
Quote from: Lumberjackfan1978 on August 24, 2018, 12:07:58 pm
Yeah maybe he'll make some good play's
Wrap him in bubblewrap until the playoffs ;)
Quote from: Overdahill on August 24, 2018, 12:11:08 pm
Wrap him in bubblewrap until the playoffs ;)
He seems to like contact.
Quote from: bigchief72455 on August 24, 2018, 09:47:31 am
Who cares. All ya'll should just mix and mingle.
Yep! Go the way of the Boy Scouts. Throw everybody in a blender.
Local tickets officially sold out in Warren.
Way to go Warren.
I was on the phone with flap jack and told him. Our response.... "man I love Warren."
Quote from: AirWarren on August 24, 2018, 08:58:01 pm
Local tickets officially sold out in Warren.
Way to go Warren.
I was on the phone with flap jack and told him. Our response.... "man I love Warren."
Warren loves their football. Go Jacks!!!
Game day baby!!!!!
Let's go Jacks!!!
Safe travels to all today. Let's go Southerners!
Let's go Jacks!!
Hopefully Bauxite puts away CC early. Get this game started on time.
Warren guys, do the lumberjacks have a live stream available for this game? Southside usually has a stream ran by students in the EAST program, but I'm not sure if they are traveling today. Here is the link to our stream if it will be available - https://livestream.com/southsideschools
Quote from: SouthernerPride on August 25, 2018, 10:49:16 am
Warren guys, do the lumberjacks have a live stream available for this game? Southside usually has a stream ran by students in the EAST program, but I'm not sure if they are traveling today. Here is the link to our stream if it will be available - https://livestream.com/southsideschools
You have to pay but yes.
http://salineriverchronicle.blogspot.com/2018/08/live-warren-vs-southside.html?m=1
Go Jacks!
Is this game being streamed online?
Southside scores on their first drive with a Koby Rich to Will Sitkowski TD pass.
XP is good. SOUTHSIDE 7
Warren 0
Southerners come up with an interception on the ensuing Lumberjack drive. The Southerners look to take over around mid field
A long pass from Koby Rich is intercepted by Warren. Lumberjacks take over close to their own 10 yrd line.
Next play, #23 for Warren breaks a 80+ yard TD run right up the middle. XP is good.
Southside 7
Warren 7
Imagine how good Warren would be if they had a QB.
A whistle negated Warren's first XP attempt. Didn't make the second I guess.
Southside 7
Warren 6
End Q1
After an Alex Branscum FG to put the Southerners up 10-7, Warren's tempo run game is starting to take its toll on the Southerners defense. Two long drives by Warren put the Jacks up 21-10 at half time.
Southside will get the ball to begin the 3rd Q.
I am surprised by Southsides O-Line, pretty good. Warren started out of bit cocky, they seemed to have awaken. The glaring thing is Southside is winded, very out of shape. The defense has the body language of a defeated team, heads down and hands on hips. Some may say it's an early start and it's hot. It's early and hot for Warren as well and they aren't walking to the line and off the field. SS is better than I thought but their conditioning is poor.
35-13 Jacks over Southside with 1:26 remaining in the 3rd.
This is not the Warren I expected but I keep reminding myself it's the first game.
Quote from: Coltfan2005 on August 25, 2018, 02:14:24 pm
This is not the Warren I expected but I keep reminding myself it's the first game.
And against the team that's supposed to be #5 in 4A... lol
Quote from: STUNNA on August 25, 2018, 02:29:46 pm
And against the team that's supposed to be #5 in 4A... lol
That is not a top 10 4A school, no matter what Pootens or the SS fans think. Warren showed a few rough patches but overall got the job done.
Quote from: Coltfan2005 on August 25, 2018, 02:35:03 pm
That is not a top 10 4A school, no matter what Pootens or the SS fans think. Warren showed a few rough patches but overall got the job done.
did Arky and Stuttgart look like top 10 4A teams to you last night?
Quote from: SouthernerPride on August 25, 2018, 03:08:21 pm
did Arky and Stuttgart look like top 10 4A teams to you last night?
And Gosnell which is probably the best team the Colts will see until the playoffs.
Sounds like steppes had a heck of a game!!!
Quote from: SouthernerPride on August 25, 2018, 03:08:21 pm
did Arky and Stuttgart look like top 10 4A teams to you last night?
SouthernerPride you sure are worried about what Arky did last night! Two different threads you've mentioned them still a little upset? Last season is over!
I have zero insight on the game. And I was there. Me and the Mrs. Went down with a couple of the fans that needed some medical attention.
I'll have to rewatch the game.
Quote from: Jsmith48 on August 25, 2018, 04:51:23 pm
SouthernerPride you sure are worried about what Arky did last night! Two different threads you've mentioned them still a little upset? Last season is over!
I was just pointing out the fact that coltsfan started the trend of calling preseason ranked teams trash because they lost opening week.
It was a fun first half from what I could see.
Best of luck to SS the rest of the season.
Watching the game online you could tell Warren had game 1 rust. SS is better that I thought but nowhere near elite. From what I can see the 4A has the top 3 teams and then a deep wide canyon between 3 and 4, the next 6 are a coin toss. SS was terribly out of shape, that was crystal clear in the 2nd quarter.
Good win for the Jacks. Listened to the game via the radio and it sounded like a even game for 2.5 quarters, turnovers and penalties associated with a first game of the season, but then Warren went on to dominate the other quarter and a half. Think SS will have a good season especially in the cold.
Quote from: JessieP on August 25, 2018, 06:05:33 pm
Watching the game online you could tell Warren had game 1 rust. SS is better that I thought but nowhere near elite. From what I can see the 4A has the top 3 teams and then a deep wide canyon between 3 and 4, the next 6 are a coin toss. SS was terribly out of shape, that was crystal clear in the 2nd quarter.
Your top 3 would be?
Huge props to Hembree for not over using Burks!!! When it's needed Warrens offense will only get that much better.
Quote from: STUNNA on August 25, 2018, 06:43:07 pm
Huge props to Hembree for not over using Burks!!! When it's needed Warrens offense will only get that much better.
We are going to be fine. Hembree uses these games to find depth.
Quote from: SouthernerPride on August 25, 2018, 05:40:16 pm
I was just pointing out the fact that coltsfan started the trend of calling preseason ranked teams trash because they lost opening week.
Why don't you re-post the comment I made calling ANY team trash? Can't find it? Why lie when it's so easy to prove? Here's a fact, the SS team is just not as good as you want it to be. Suck it up, stop whining and lying, and go on with pulling for your team.
As Warren fans know well, Coach Hembree is an experimenter. Its hard to get a true feel of our strengths and weaknesses because he makes a lot of substitutions during non-conference play. It looked like he was trying to reserve Burks on offense. Burks made a few mistakes like that fumble on the punt return and going backwards on what looked like a double pass. However, he did well on the things fans normally won't see like blocking down field. It looked like he was trying to work on our short passing game, specifically screens to the wideouts. That was a weakness in our offense last season.
Quote from: Romeo on August 25, 2018, 06:57:32 pm
As Warren fans know well, Coach Hembree is an experimenter. Its hard to get a true feel of our strengths and weaknesses because he makes a lot of substitutions during non-conference play. It looked like he was trying to reserve Burks on offense. Burks made a few mistakes like that fumble on the punt return and going backwards on what looked like a double pass. However, he did well on the things fans normally won't see like blocking down field. It looked like he was trying to work on our short passing game, specifically screens to the wideouts. That was a weakness in our offense last season.
#7 only played one half too.
Quote from: Romeo on August 25, 2018, 06:57:32 pm
As Warren fans know well, Coach Hembree is an experimenter. Its hard to get a true feel of our strengths and weaknesses because he makes a lot of substitutions during non-conference play. It looked like he was trying to reserve Burks on offense. Burks made a few mistakes like that fumble on the punt return and going backwards on what looked like a double pass. However, he did well on the things fans normally won't see like blocking down field. It looked like he was trying to work on our short passing game, specifically screens to the wideouts. That was a weakness in our offense last season.
I liked the substitutions, liked pulling Burks. I did notice some stutter stepping and some uncertainty during plays from some players. You see that on most teams in the first few weeks but Warren was able to power on through it, not letting their mistakes set the tone of the game.
Quote from: OrangeCrush. on August 25, 2018, 12:37:14 pm
Imagine how good Warren would be if they had a QB.
So you are saying What? They have a QB #1 and if you haven't realized that by now you are surely moving in the wrong direction.
That 75 yd TD pass to Reep didn't look like the signs of a bad QB.
Quote from: Superjack45 on August 25, 2018, 07:41:04 pm
So you are saying What? They have a QB #1 and if you haven't realized that by now you are surely moving in the wrong direction.
Warren has a running back playing QB, essentially. When Warren plays a really good team they always have to go to Burks at QB just to move the ball. I'm just saying Warren is really good now, imagine how good if they had an above average passer.
Quote from: Superjack45 on August 25, 2018, 07:41:04 pm
So you are saying What? They have a QB #1 and if you haven't realized that by now you are surely moving in the wrong direction.
Our QB play was just fine.
Quote from: Romeo on August 25, 2018, 08:12:13 pm
That 75 yd TD pass to Reep didn't look like the signs of a bad QB.
Exactly. And the throw to 37.
Quote from: Superjack45 on August 25, 2018, 07:41:04 pm
So you are saying What? They have a QB #1 and if you haven't realized that by now you are surely moving in the wrong direction.
Let it go dad
Quote from: AirWarren on August 25, 2018, 08:13:49 pm
Exactly. And the throw to 37.
#12 #15 and #37 were all sophomores and looked like they were contributing on both sides of the ball.
Quote from: Coltfan2005 on August 25, 2018, 02:35:03 pm
That is not a top 10 4A school, no matter what Pootens or the SS fans think. Warren showed a few rough patches but overall got the job done.
Remember the Colts are not in 3A anymore just saying. ;D
Quote from: Razorhummer on August 26, 2018, 01:45:27 am
Remember the Colts are not in 3A anymore just saying. ;D
Nope, left 3A with another state championship. Left a conf where our 5th seed beat a 4A team that made it to the 3rd round of 4A playoffs.
Quote from: Coltfan2005 on August 26, 2018, 01:25:07 pm
Nope, left 3A with another state championship. Left a conf where our 5th seed beat a 4A team that made it to the 3rd round of 4A playoffs.
apples to oranges. See you in the playoffs.. maybe.
except in this case the apples were spanking the oranges. Don't worry, with that conf schedule I am sure SS will make the playoffs. Funny how two years of an OK team makes fans think they own a dynasty.
Quote from: Coltfan2005 on August 26, 2018, 06:02:04 pm
except in this case the apples were spanking the oranges. Don't worry, with that conf schedule I am sure SS will make the playoffs. Funny how two years of an OK team makes fans think they own a dynasty.
please.. beating up on 3A schools for a few years has got to your head. It will make taking the licks from your new 4A brethren much easier to bare.
Would you like to take a guess how many times Rivercrest has played for the 4A state championship? Nothing new...unlike some teams whopping 2 year winning record.
Good article from the ADG. Good photos too.
http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2018/aug/26/warren-shows-it-s-no-1-man-show-2018082/
Quote from: Coltfan2005 on August 26, 2018, 09:34:14 pm
Would you like to take a guess how many times Rivercrest has played for the 4A state championship? Nothing new...unlike some teams whopping 2 year winning record.
None! It was 3A back in 02-03 ::)
Rude awaking coming to a stadium near you
I went and watched Warren play Saturday and I still can't figure out what in the world their Coach was trying to do? They had a huge speed advantage on Southside Batesville.
Burks hardly was ever targeted and when he was, The play calls were suspect. Granted the team they played Southside played their hearts out and got inside the 10 twice and could not get in, or that game could have went the other way. Never got to see if Burks was a good receiver or not.
Getting back to Burks and Miller.
Burks looks like a Linebacker, Plays like a Linebacker, and plays mean like a Linebacker. He had some very aggressive plays during game and at one point slamming Southsides biggest and best player on a running play. I would not be surprised if he is starting next to Pool at arkansas in a couple years.
Miller
Kid looks the part and is huge, but needs a college work out plan in the worst way, He either played hard or stood around and watched. His effort was 50/50 the whole game.
JMO, But both for sure have D-1 ability and physical stature.
Warren is focused on being a better TEAM, not just overworking its best player. Smart.
Quote from: GhostofRosswoodCC on August 27, 2018, 08:45:51 am
I went and watched Warren play Saturday and I still can't figure out what in the world their Coach was trying to do? They had a huge speed advantage on Southside Batesville.
Burks hardly was ever targeted and when he was, The play calls were suspect. Granted the team they played Southside played their hearts out and got inside the 10 twice and could not get in, or that game could have went the other way. Never got to see if Burks was a good receiver or not.
Getting back to Burks and Miller.
Burks looks like a Linebacker, Plays like a Linebacker, and plays mean like a Linebacker. He had some very aggressive plays during game and at one point slamming Southsides biggest and best player on a running play. I would not be surprised if he is starting next to Pool at arkansas in a couple years.
Miller
Kid looks the part and is huge, but needs a college work out plan in the worst way, He either played hard or stood around and watched. His effort was 50/50 the whole game.
JMO, But both for sure have D-1 ability and physical stature.
If you haven't followed lumberjack football before in non conference then I can understand why you were confused. The coach uses these games to find depth for later in the season.
Why on earth would he throw it deep to Treylon every time or line him up in the wildcat and run him 40 Times? The whole staff knows what he can do. The whole town knows what he can do. And the southerners were completely outmatched speed wise. That's why we saw #1, #4 and #23 burn them over and over. Bo didn't have to get #13 and #7 the ball. The team could give a flip about August 25th football. They have their eyes on December so why run Treylon ragged when you don't have to?
Miller was chopped blocked multiple times. I rewatched the game later that evening and it was evident that the play was schemed around taking Miller's legs out.
What AirWarren said....
Quote from: HeberFan on August 27, 2018, 08:56:33 am
What AirWarren said....
You've got a back that put almost 200 on SS Batesville. Why throw it? lol.
Quote from: AirWarren on August 27, 2018, 08:59:53 am
You've got a back that put almost 200 on SS Batesville. Why throw it? lol.
Warren throws a lot... those real short "passes" where the quarterback puts it right in the runner's belly.
Quote from: HeberFan on August 27, 2018, 08:54:01 am
Warren is focused on being a better TEAM, not just overworking its best player. Smart.
Don't won't to argue, but this statement is stupid, Burks basically never left the field the whole game, and played on basically every special teams play.
Quote from: GhostofRosswoodCC on August 27, 2018, 09:05:36 am
Don't won't to argue, but this statement is stupid, Burks basically never left the field the whole game, and played on basically every special teams play.
Someone who was there needs to respond to this in detail.
Quote from: HeberFan on August 27, 2018, 09:15:06 am
Someone who was there needs to respond to this in detail.
I was there and Burks played almost the whole game except for short time in late 3rd quarter, Heberfan apparently you were not there.
saying the reason they did not get him the ball was because they did not want to overwork him, is just a stupid statement, when he was out there pretty much the whole time on both sides of the ball.
Quote from: GhostofRosswoodCC on August 27, 2018, 09:19:13 am
I was there and Burks played almost the whole game except for short time in late 3rd quarter, Heberfan apparently you were not there.
saying the reason they did not get him the ball was because they did not want to overwork him, is just a stupid statement, when he was out there pretty much the whole time on both sides of the ball.
Is it? A coach that has won 190 games and has 4 state titles.....must know a little something.
Quote from: GhostofRosswoodCC on August 27, 2018, 09:05:36 am
Don't won't to argue, but this statement is stupid, Burks basically never left the field the whole game, and played on basically every special teams play.
Why force the ball to him when he is:
1. Double teamed.
2. Have #4 running wide open after the DB's pulled off of him to guard #7 resulting in a 75+ yard touchdown pass.
3. Have a running back that averaged 14 ypc. Finished with 14 carries for 197 yards and 3 touchdowns.
4. Have a QB that was running the zone read well and passed for 136 and two touchdowns and ran for 91 and a touchdown.
In the pregame show through our local newspaper, Hembree said that Treylon will play but this year it will not be where he has his hands on the ball every single play and he would like to see him focus on LB a lot more.
As quoted in the paper......
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Burks, a senior who has orally committed to the University of Arkansas, recorded 8.5 tackles, 1 sack, 1 forced fumble and 1 pass breakup at linebacker. He had one pass thrown to him, losing 11 yards on the 2nd-and-9 play from the Warren 37 in the third quarter.
Warren Coach Bo Hembree wanted to look at players other than Burks. He doesn't want to put too much on Burks, who accounted for 46 touchdowns a year ago, including 14 receiving touchdowns.
"We're going to be able to play without Treylon, especially for the nonconference," Hembree said. "They were keying on him and putting two guys on him.
"It's a great thing about him. He doesn't care if he doesn't play too much on offense. He helped us on defense. We're going to have weapons on offense."http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2018/aug/26/warren-shows-it-s-no-1-man-show-2018082/
Airwarren, with your post
I agree
But to what heberfan was saying is my point, Kid played whole game basically both ways. Coach did not want to get kid overworked is reason why he was not targeted with ball is stupid.
HE was not targeted because he was double teamed, basically the whole game.
Quote from: GhostofRosswoodCC on August 27, 2018, 09:24:34 am
Airwarren, with your post
I agree
But to what heberfan was saying is my point, Kid played whole game basically both ways. Coach did not want to get kid overworked is reason why he was not targeted with ball is stupid.
HE was not targeted because he was double teamed, basically the whole game.
So, Ghost is saying that Southside was able to take Burks out of the game ?
Quote from: GhostofRosswoodCC on August 27, 2018, 09:24:34 am
Airwarren, with your post
I agree
But to what heberfan was saying is my point, Kid played whole game basically both ways. Coach did not want to get kid overworked is reason why he was not targeted with ball is stupid.
HE was not targeted because he was double teamed, basically the whole game.
Trust me. He was doubled teamed by Robinson, PG, Arkadelphia. He cannot be guarded. The whole point of these games is to find depth and the staff knows the weapons that are on this team. If you cannot understand that, then there is no helping you.
Yes he played both ways, but what sense does it make to give him 40 touches vs SS Batesville? If you put him in the wildcat package, that game is over by the end of the 2nd because there was not one kid that would have stopped him in the open field in Navy tops.
Quote from: HeberFan on August 27, 2018, 09:26:39 am
So, Ghost is saying that Southside was able to take Burks out of the game ?
If so then so be it haha. We had a back that had 14 ypc and it was 42-13 in the 4th quarter when our second and third teamers came in lol
Quote from: AirWarren on August 27, 2018, 09:30:04 am
If so then so be it haha. We had a back that had 14 ypc and it was 42-13 in the 4th quarter when our second and third teamers came in lol
I agree, Warren was dominant. But it seems like people in here are saying Southside executed a plan that made Burks ineffective. If that's true, it's a big deal. If Warren just didn't use Burks that much, then it isn't a big deal. Who saw the game and who can say what really happened ?
Quote from: AirWarren on August 27, 2018, 09:28:49 am
Trust me. He was doubled teamed by Robinson, PG, Arkadelphia. He cannot be guarded. The whole point of these games is to find depth and the staff knows the weapons that are on this team. If you cannot understand that, then there is no helping you.
Yes he played both ways, but what sense does it make to give him 40 touches vs SS Batesville? If you put him in the wildcat package, that game is over by the end of the 2nd because there was not one kid that would have stopped him in the open field in Navy tops.
Airwarren, come on man. Warren is good, but not a Super team, You are delusional, Southside played with them, and if they could have scored both times in the 2nd and 3rd quarter when they were inside the 10, You would have been sweating bullets. Saving a High school kid? come on man, give me a break. He was getting double teamed.
I did not want to go there
But How the heck if he such a Good Coach he did not win a State when Wright/ Childs and Gragg were seniors? 3 NFL players
Also,
How the heck did they not win it by a Blowout last year with your analogy of this years team? They should have been saved up and ready to roll in state championship game.
I am not a fan of either team and cannot believe, I am on here arguing, but I just went to watch 2 Future Hogs play. Honestly don't care, just making some outside observations. of game. Wish I had not posted, Warren fans more delusional than Watson Chapel fans.
Quote from: HeberFan on August 27, 2018, 09:34:32 am
I agree, Warren was dominant. But it seems like people in here are saying Southside executed a plan that made Burks ineffective. If that's true, it's a big deal. If Warren just didn't use Burks that much, then it isn't a big deal. Who saw the game and who can say what really happened ?
Rewatching the game, he was thrown to once. And was put in at QB once because our QB lost his helmet and had to go to the sideline.
#12 was thrown to. Sophomore.
#37 was thrown to. Sophomore(had one touchdown).
#80 was thrown to. Junior who is playing football for the first time since Jr. high.
#4 was thrown to. Senior who caught the 75 yard TD pass.
#15 was thrown to. Sophomore.
#7 was out for a half and was not targeted much.
#13 was targeted once.
The touchdowns were scored on #1 QB keeper, touchdown pass to #37(sophomore), touchdown pass to #4(our possession guy), and 3 rushing touchdowns by our Junior RB.
There is a trend there, if Ghost can see it.
Quote from: GhostofRosswoodCC on August 27, 2018, 09:40:46 am
Airwarren, come on man. Warren is good, but not a Super team, You are delusional, Southside played with them, and if they could have scored both times in the 2nd and 3rd quarter when they were inside the 10, You would have been sweating bullets. Saving a High school kid? come on man, give me a break. He was getting double teamed.
I did not want to go there
But How the heck if he such a Good Coach he did not win a State when Wright/ Childs and Gragg were seniors? 3 NFL players
Also,
How the heck did they not win it by a Blowout last year with your analogy of this years team? They should have been saved up and ready to roll in state championship game.
I am not a fan of either team and cannot believe, I am on here arguing, but I just went to watch 2 Future Hogs play. Honestly don't care, just making some outside observations. of game. Wish I had not posted, Warren fans more delusional than Watson Chapel fans.
What would you know? White hall bulldog fan with zero state titles. Come talk to us when you can make it to the big stage. You're the bottom feeder of Jefferson County football.
Heck you hate on Chapel but at least they have a state title, lol.
Burks can get his whenever He wants.. lol... has been that way since his freshman year... seems scary to think that Warrens two dynamic offensive players didn't score and hardly had any touches. That's soeaks volumes to what Hembree is trying to do and how scary it will be when they start giving Burks and McKnight the ball more often. Anyone doubting the talent of Burks is an idiot. Burks won't get the keys to the bus until playoff time most likely.
Quote from: STUNNA on August 27, 2018, 09:53:52 am
Burks can get his whenever He wants.. lol... has been that way since his freshman year... seems scary to think that Warrens two dynamic offensive players didn't score and hardly had any touches. That's soeaks volumes to what Hembree is trying to do and how scary it will be when they start giving Burks and McKnight the ball more often. Anyone doubting the talent of Burks is an idiot. Burks won't get the keys to the bus until playoff time most likely.
Stunna, come back to the delusional pool....someone from White Hall has spoken.
The game was 42-13 with #7 and #13 not even crossing into the endzone...lol
Quote from: AirWarren on August 27, 2018, 09:56:57 am
Stunna, come back to the delusional pool....someone from White Hall has spoken.
The game was 42-13 with #7 and #13 not even crossing into the endzone...lol
scary.. lol
Quote from: STUNNA on August 27, 2018, 10:08:49 am
scary.. lol
I will rewatch, but I am certain he caught one pass and MAYBE was targeted one more time. Think there was some question if it was PI on the play.
Teams win and lose, with great coaches and players, every year. No need to knock Warren because of championship game wins or losses.
Feels like Southside got whipped and wants to at least say "we stopped Burks." Truth is, Southside didn't play Burks. They played Warren. Southside has a very good team this year, and played an even better team.
I watched the whole game and after the 1st quarter I didn't see Burks much on offense. They didn't need him regardless. Southside had no business in that game.
Quote from: Razorhummer on August 27, 2018, 03:08:43 am
None! It was 3A back in 02-03 ::)
So you are saying Rivercrest has never played for a 4A state title? That Rivercrest has never WON a 4A state title? I believe that is what your "none" comment meant? Now, you might want to disappear off this thread before you find out the REAL answer to the question.
Still not able to count to 4?
Quote from: OrangeCrush. on August 27, 2018, 11:34:52 am
I watched the whole game and after the 1st quarter I didn't see Burks much on offense. They didn't need him regardless. Southside had no business in that game.
Southside certainly had business in the game. They've improved a lot in the last few years. Taking on Warren is just a big task for anyone.
Quote from: SouthernerPride on August 26, 2018, 07:36:45 pm
please.. beating up on 3A schools for a few years has got to your head. It will make taking the licks from your new 4A brethren much easier to bare.
Didn't even notice you were back. No response to getting called out for the crap you were spouting?
Quote from: cuckoobird on August 27, 2018, 09:54:17 am
The fan from north of I40 running his mouth
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Quote from: GhostofRosswoodCC on August 27, 2018, 09:40:46 am
Airwarren, come on man. Warren is good, but not a Super team, You are delusional, Southside played with them, and if they could have scored both times in the 2nd and 3rd quarter when they were inside the 10, You would have been sweating bullets. Saving a High school kid? come on man, give me a break. He was getting double teamed.
I did not want to go there
But How the heck if he such a Good Coach he did not win a State when Wright/ Childs and Gragg were seniors? 3 NFL players
Also,
How the heck did they not win it by a Blowout last year with your analogy of this years team? They should have been saved up and ready to roll in state championship game.
I am not a fan of either team and cannot believe, I am on here arguing, but I just went to watch 2 Future Hogs play. Honestly don't care, just making some outside observations. of game. Wish I had not posted, Warren fans more delusional than Watson Chapel fans.
than go back to the 5A board
Quote from: Coltfan2005 on August 27, 2018, 11:55:49 am
So you are saying Rivercrest has never played for a 4A state title? That Rivercrest has never WON a 4A state title? I believe that is what your "none" comment meant? Now, you might want to disappear off this thread before you find out the REAL answer to the question.
Still not able to count to 4?
Yep that's what I said and I'm not going anywhere, I mean I don't stay on here as much as you do like a girl taking selfies on Facebook all day lol . If your referring to when you played Warren in 02, that was for the class 3A title. Newport and Osceola's 1st year in class 3A was in 2002 after dropping down a class from the 4A East with Vilonia and Beebe taking their spot. It was like that until 06 when the AAA decided to bump up the classifications. Good grief I'm starting to wonder if that's all that Rivercrest teaches is football. Just in case you don't know the classifications that changed 12 years ago it is 1A which doesn't have football, then you have 2A, 3A and now your 4A, then 5A, 6A and 7A. Time to move on and have a nice day! ;D
Think this thread is finished....
Quote from: Razorhummer on August 28, 2018, 07:42:43 am
Yep that's what I said and I'm not going anywhere, I mean I don't stay on here as much as you do like a girl taking selfies on Facebook all day lol . If your referring to when you played Warren in 02, that was for the class 3A title. Newport and Osceola's 1st year in class 3A was in 2002 after dropping down a class from the 4A East with Vilonia and Beebe taking their spot. It was like that until 06 when the AAA decided to bump up the classifications. Good grief I'm starting to wonder if that's all that Rivercrest teaches is football. Just in case you don't know the classifications that changed 12 years ago it is 1A which doesn't have football, then you have 2A, 3A and now your 4A, then 5A, 6A and 7A. Time to move on and have a nice day! ;D
You really think they didn't have football before 2001? 1982,1983,1985,1986..4A state champs in 1985. The colts also played in 2002,2003, 2010,2015,2017. Tell me about the 4A state titles your team has played for. You know, it does not take a student of football to spend 3 minutes googling something before making oneself look ignorant.Try it.
Quote from: Coltfan2005 on August 28, 2018, 01:09:58 pm
You really think they didn't have football before 2001? 1982,1983,1985,1986..4A state champs in 1985. The colts also played in 2002,2003, 2010,2015,2017. Tell me about the 4A state titles your team has played for. You know, it does not take a student of football to spend 3 minutes googling something before making oneself look ignorant.Try it.
None of those championships were in a classification that was called the "4A" at the time. You may be saying they were 4A equivalent titles but were not actual 4A titles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arkansas_state_high_school_football_champions
Sounds like Warren is trying to play as a team and not rely on just one guy. What a concept!
Quote from: HeberFan on August 28, 2018, 03:30:34 pm
Sounds like Warren is trying to play as a team and not rely on just one guy. What a concept!
You got it
As someone that gets to see Warren play in non-conference on a yearly basis. You have to earn the right to see the best players especially Burks. Bo experiments a lot in the non-conference and after that, he is not going to show anything he doesn't have to. He will just run basic plays with a balanced lineup and if you can stop that and score on the defense then you might get to see that good stuff.
Quote from: GhostofRosswoodCC on August 27, 2018, 09:40:46 am
Airwarren, come on man. Warren is good, but not a Super team, You are delusional, Southside played with them, and if they could have scored both times in the 2nd and 3rd quarter when they were inside the 10, You would have been sweating bullets. Saving a High school kid? come on man, give me a break. He was getting double teamed.
I did not want to go there
But How the heck if he such a Good Coach he did not win a State when Wright/ Childs and Gragg were seniors? 3 NFL players
Also,
How the heck did they not win it by a Blowout last year with your analogy of this years team? They should have been saved up and ready to roll in state championship game.
I am not a fan of either team and cannot believe, I am on here arguing, but I just went to watch 2 Future Hogs play. Honestly don't care, just making some outside observations. of game. Wish I had not posted, Warren fans more delusional than Watson Chapel fans.
but they didn't score inside the 10 in the 2nd and 3rd quarter did they? Lol
How do all of these threads about two teams end up becoming all about totally opposite teams? Until the colts prove their selves in THIS 4A division then shut up about the colts this is warrens division until they are tired of owning it or until they play arky again lol jkjk. But since we are making it about other teams GO HILLBILLIES
Quote from: phdefense on August 28, 2018, 03:28:40 pm
None of those championships were in a classification that was called the "4A" at the time. You may be saying they were 4A equivalent titles but were not actual 4A titles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arkansas_state_high_school_football_champions
Yes, they were. The classification AAAA was formed in 1977. 1983, the 4a and 5a were combined and called the 4a by the AAA.
Quote from: Coltfan2005 on August 28, 2018, 05:52:41 pm
Yes, they were. The classification AAAA was formed in 1977. 1983, the 4a and 5a were combined and called the 4a by the AAA.
I'm not so sure about that. I was in high school in the late 80's and Stuttgart was in the 5AAA North. I don't think you guys were in a higher classification then because I know we were in the same class (3A) when we played you guys in the finals and semis in '82-'83.
Quote from: phdefense on August 28, 2018, 03:42:05 pm
You got it
As someone that gets to see Warren play in non-conference on a yearly basis. You have to earn the right to see the best players especially Burks. Bo experiments a lot in the non-conference and after that, he is not going to show anything he doesn't have to. He will just run basic plays with a balanced lineup and if you can stop that and score on the defense then you might get to see that good stuff.
This^^^. A few of my thoughts about the game after watching it online. First, Batesville SS certainly deserved to be in that football game, any thought otherwise is foolish. They put a good team on the field last season, returned a wealth of starters and quite frankly, had Warren fans sweating pretty good for the first quarter and a half. They have size on the lines, skill on the edges and I was impressed with their QB in both arm talent and overall size. This Batesville SS team, unless the rest of the 2-4A cranks it up, I don't see the Southerners having an overly difficult time claiming the conference title outright this season. They are a very good 4A football team that will make a deep run in the play-offs this season. Well coached, experienced and hungry--you could tell that from how they played. They out hustled Warren in the first half for sure.
For Warren, it's exactly what phdefense said. Non-conference is one, big experimentation for Bo to find depth and prepare his guys to face adversity in the future. He got his guys uncomfortable playing in the heat and humidity and they had to adapt and perform. He got his younger players some playing time and confidence. Bo already knows what he has in Treylon, he doesn't need to see him score 5 TDs against Batesville SS to feel better or more confident in him. What he does need is a WR corps that can go out and find ways to get in the endzone this season if and when Treylon is double or triple covered. He accomplished that, and I think will continue to instill that confidence through-out non-conference and into conference play. Defense looked good but not outstanding. There was some blown assignments in the secondary and the defensive line looked gassed/uninterested at points in the game. Bo and his coaches will have to work on those issues and get them all refocused. The LB corp looked outstanding though, and having Treylon on that side of the ball is always an added bonus. For the "lack" of production offensively, he more than made up for it defensively and in some big spots too.
I think what I took from the game more than anything is that Warren defensively performed well, only giving up 13 points with the starters on the field to a Top 8 team in Class 4A. They made big stops when they had to (those two drives inside the 10 yard line in the first half) and we're big and athletic in the Front 7 with a very athletic secondary. Offensively, the Jacks put 42 on the scoreboard without their two main offensive weapons crossing the goal line. Burks and McKnight were not featured heavily on offense and those two accounted for what had to have been 80% of the offensive production last season. That stat should terrify the 4A. As STUNNA said, when he is needed and called upon, Treylon will be able to get his and McKnight has elite level speed and skill and will be a featured weapon of this offensive whenever Hembree decides to flip that switch. The most impressive thing I took from watching the game offensively is we have a true, #1 running back in Steppes and I anticipate him being able to put up some monster numbers. With his emergence, we shouldn't have to rely on Treylon in the Elephant package nearly as much as we did last year which will hopefully allow him to play more at WR where in single coverage, there isn't a DB in class 4A that can man up with him--so that'll create mismatches. If teams double him, as SS did all game, then we've now established we other weapons that can hurt you and oh yeah, there's still McKnight the burner in the back pocket. Offensive line looked great for sure and I was happy to see how the unit performed. Barring a rash of injuries like we suffered on the o-line last year, this unit will continue to improve and should be a strength for us in the play-offs as we have considerable size up front.
It's an exciting time to be a Lumberjack fan. I'm anxious to see how we improve from game 1 to game 2 as Hembree made mention that his teams typically take their biggest step forward between weeks 1 and 2. Ready to see how they perform against a Stuttgart team next weekend that'll either be coming off a vitally important win against Star City and looking to continue to improve or will be reeling at 0-2 and could be starting a tailspin into conference play. Great game this past Saturday by the Jacks, good sportsmanship shown by all and happy to start off with a win.
Go Jacks!
-Kyle
I didn't make it to the game so I listened to it on the radio. Bo taped his pre game interview on Thursday and said then, two days before the game, Burks was going to be played primarily on defense in that game. Bo experiments a lot in the first 3 games. Two years ago, Reep, the possession receiver, would have never scored on a 70+ yard catch. Now every DC will have to scheme something for him, as well as Burks, McKnight, Steppes, and Kinnard. That's several players that can score at any point in the game.
I think Bo is saving the fake Statue of Liberty play.
Quote from: FF Secretary of Defense Flap_Jack48 on August 29, 2018, 10:21:34 am
This^^^. A few of my thoughts about the game after watching it online. First, Batesville SS certainly deserved to be in that football game, any thought otherwise is foolish. They put a good team on the field last season, returned a wealth of starters and quite frankly, had Warren fans sweating pretty good for the first quarter and a half. They have size on the lines, skill on the edges and I was impressed with their QB in both arm talent and overall size. This Batesville SS team, unless the rest of the 2-4A cranks it up, I don't see the Southerners having an overly difficult time claiming the conference title outright this season. They are a very good 4A football team that will make a deep run in the play-offs this season. Well coached, experienced and hungry--you could tell that from how they played. They out hustled Warren in the first half for sure.
For Warren, it's exactly what phdefense said. Non-conference is one, big experimentation for Bo to find depth and prepare his guys to face adversity in the future. He got his guys uncomfortable playing in the heat and humidity and they had to adapt and perform. He got his younger players some playing time and confidence. Bo already knows what he has in Treylon, he doesn't need to see him score 5 TDs against Batesville SS to feel better or more confident in him. What he does need is a WR corps that can go out and find ways to get in the endzone this season if and when Treylon is double or triple covered. He accomplished that, and I think will continue to instill that confidence through-out non-conference and into conference play. Defense looked good but not outstanding. There was some blown assignments in the secondary and the defensive line looked gassed/uninterested at points in the game. Bo and his coaches will have to work on those issues and get them all refocused. The LB corp looked outstanding though, and having Treylon on that side of the ball is always an added bonus. For the "lack" of production offensively, he more than made up for it defensively and in some big spots too.
I think what I took from the game more than anything is that Warren defensively performed well, only giving up 13 points with the starters on the field to a Top 8 team in Class 4A. They made big stops when they had to (those two drives inside the 10 yard line in the first half) and we're big and athletic in the Front 7 with a very athletic secondary. Offensively, the Jacks put 42 on the scoreboard without their two main offensive weapons crossing the goal line. Burks and McKnight were not featured heavily on offense and those two accounted for what had to have been 80% of the offensive production last season. That stat should terrify the 4A. As STUNNA said, when he is needed and called upon, Treylon will be able to get his and McKnight has elite level speed and skill and will be a featured weapon of this offensive whenever Hembree decides to flip that switch. The most impressive thing I took from watching the game offensively is we have a true, #1 running back in Steppes and I anticipate him being able to put up some monster numbers. With his emergence, we shouldn't have to rely on Treylon in the Elephant package nearly as much as we did last year which will hopefully allow him to play more at WR where in single coverage, there isn't a DB in class 4A that can man up with him--so that'll create mismatches. If teams double him, as SS did all game, then we've now established we other weapons that can hurt you and oh yeah, there's still McKnight the burner in the back pocket. Offensive line looked great for sure and I was happy to see how the unit performed. Barring a rash of injuries like we suffered on the o-line last year, this unit will continue to improve and should be a strength for us in the play-offs as we have considerable size up front.
It's an exciting time to be a Lumberjack fan. I'm anxious to see how we improve from game 1 to game 2 as Hembree made mention that his teams typically take their biggest step forward between weeks 1 and 2. Ready to see how they perform against a Stuttgart team next weekend that'll either be coming off a vitally important win against Star City and looking to continue to improve or will be reeling at 0-2 and could be starting a tailspin into conference play. Great game this past Saturday by the Jacks, good sportsmanship shown by all and happy to start off with a win.
Go Jacks!
-Kyle
that's a very good summary but again that works for a team with a average defense. Put that scheme up against a team with a great defense like arkadelphia and Robinson had last season and the outcome comes back to Burks in the elephant package 🤷🏽♂️ .... Another note based off your summary warren used different options and not their best players to win this game lol put burks in the elephant package against SS the game wouldn't of been close... SS is not a contender.. they said that last year and got blown out 42-8 2nd round.
Quote from: richboy on August 29, 2018, 03:34:37 pm
that's a very good summary but again that works for a team with a average defense. Put that scheme up against a team with a great defense like arkadelphia and Robinson had last season and the outcome comes back to Burks in the elephant package 🤷🏽♂️ .... Another note based off your summary warren used different options and not their best players to win this game lol put burks in the elephant package against SS the game wouldn't of been close... SS is not a contender.. they said that last year and got blown out 42-8 2nd round.
One game at a time.
Quote from: AirWarren on August 29, 2018, 03:37:07 pm
One game at a time.
that's understandable but wasn't this SS chance to show they are a top contender in 4a 🤷🏽♂️ they couldn't even do it with warren using different strategies to see what they have to work with this season is all I'm saying lol
Quote from: richboy on August 29, 2018, 03:34:37 pm
that's a very good summary but again that works for a team with a average defense. Put that scheme up against a team with a great defense like arkadelphia and Robinson had last season and the outcome comes back to Burks in the elephant package 🤷🏽♂️ .... Another note based off your summary warren used different options and not their best players to win this game lol put burks in the elephant package against SS the game wouldn't of been close... SS is not a contender.. they said that last year and got blown out 42-8 2nd round.
Your key phrase in that was "last season". You were right, Robinson and Arkie had some good defenses last season, but let's see what they put on the field this year. Warren still has their main weapons and have added to the arsenal with more young talent. Robinson's defense against Springdale didn't look all-world from what I watched. They played well, but looked slow on some plays in the first half with Soringdale players outrunning them to the edge. Arkie I haven't watched yet but plan to if the live feed is working for Benton.
Could Warren go Elephant package if needed, absolutely, but I think we'll see that less this year because we have more playmakers on offense outside of Treylon and McKnight. The sophomores we have rotating will only get better and more confident as the season progresses. So even "great" defense can't double up multiple players. Don't have enough personnel. And with warren this season, if you drop everyone into coverage then Steppes and Kinnard kill you on the ground. Warren will be very difficult to gameplan the deeper into the season we go.
-Kyle
What most people fail to realize is that year in year out the key to beating or being competitive against Warren is slowing down or stopping the run game. Easier said than done most games but the fact remains.
Everyone is worried about the passing game but the killer is when they hit a few passes, get spread you out and THEN run the ball.
Quote from: SUGARTOWN on August 29, 2018, 03:53:22 pm
What most people fail to realize is that year in year out the key to beating or being competitive against Warren is slowing down or stopping the run game. Easier said than done most games but the fact remains.
Everyone is worried about the passing game but the killer is when they hit a few passes, get spread you out and THEN run the ball.
When Hembree installed that pistol package back in 2012. He had a run first QB and Kilay Cox in the backfield who was with them for several more years in the backfield. Then came Lassiter and Daniels in the backfield. Now, two years in, Steppes and Kinnard are in the backfield. Kyle and I have discussed it before, the power run package with that initial pistol set was the icing on the cake with Warren.
It helps we have had some good sized offensive linemen since 2012 too...an area that hurt us in the past.
+1 sugartown. That's how a weaker team has kept the game close and within reach. That's always a good philosophy and referencing 2012, warrens run game was totally stopped that's why they didn't have but maybe 150 total yards and didn't score
Quote from: cuckoobird on August 29, 2018, 05:14:20 pm
+1 sugartown. That's how a weaker team has kept the game close and within reach. That's always a good philosophy and referencing 2012, warrens run game was totally stopped that's why they didn't have but maybe 150 total yards and didn't score
in Warren's defense, nobody ran the ball against that 2012 Stuttgart D.
All of our state championships except one have come from a strong running game. Shutting down our run definitely gives another team the opportunity to win. Best example I saw was in 2007 against Nashville. A lot of people ask why we couldn't win state with three future NFL players at receiver. Well, we didn't have a run game that year. We had the ball at least four times inside the 10 yard line in that game and didn't score.
Quote from: Romeo on August 29, 2018, 10:16:46 pm
All of our state championships except one have come from a strong running game. Shutting down our run definitely gives another team the opportunity to win. Best example I saw was in 2007 against Nashville. A lot of people ask why we couldn't win state with three future NFL players at receiver. Well, we didn't have a run game that year. We had the ball at least four times inside the 10 yard line in that game and didn't score.
Inside the 5, we were throwing the ball. Yeah, that doesn't happen anymore.
Quote from: Romeo on August 29, 2018, 10:16:46 pm
All of our state championships except one have come from a strong running game. Shutting down our run definitely gives another team the opportunity to win. Best example I saw was in 2007 against Nashville. A lot of people ask why we couldn't win state with three future NFL players at receiver. Well, we didn't have a run game that year. We had the ball at least four times inside the 10 yard line in that game and didn't score.
Good times. :)
The teams that do best against Warren, score a lot of touchdowns but don't allow many.
Quote from: HeberFan on August 30, 2018, 12:54:22 pm
The teams that do best against Warren, score a lot of touchdowns but don't allow many.
So they blow them out?
Trying to keep up with warren is the worst thing to do. They are disciplined offensively and don't really turn the ball over. Beter play defense and pound the rock
One thing you never say to Warren: "Let's play soccer, instead!"
Quote from: HeberFan on August 30, 2018, 02:49:54 pm
One thing you never say to Warren: "Let's play soccer, instead!"
That should never be said to anyone, anywhere, anytime.