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Mountain Pine/Castleberry Misrepresent 5AA

Started by Ballhawker, February 14, 2006, 10:02:16 am

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Ballhawker

I was saddened last night as I watched the Mountain Pine/Kirby basketball game.  I had my niece and nephew with me, and I had to cover their ears all night!!  The people who work there or know folks there are probably embarrased as to the way the coach and players acted.  Even their fans act in a way that should be reprimanded.  The 5AA South has many fine fans, players, and coaches!!  Mountain Pine is the black sheep of the group.  There is no control of their kids or fans.  Coach Castleberry has a long time reputation of this and it is sad.  I hope for Jessieville folks and the AA State Tournament that this group will not be represented there.  Basketball, athletics, and the true spirit of competition are sadly misrepresented at Mountain Pine.  Go Lady Eagles!!

bballer_85

I think that any time a coach, player or fan act in a disrespectful manner it is a reflection of that school,  &if you directly say something to them after the game, they may or may not respond - but you have every "right" to call their principal, athletic director, or superintendant and complain.
Years ago at Jessieville's old gym, there was a sign that said something to the effect that as a fan, you were to control yourself and act in a manner that would promote sportsmanship.  Gee, haven't we come a long way from that?!?!
Its not wonder we have problems in schools today - sportsmanship is quickly becoming a thing of the past - but whats even sadder to me is that these are supposed to be fun... GAMES - GAMES!!! PEOPLE GAMES!!!!

PopTart Man

It was terrible. One player threw his warm up top into the stands, the coach IGNORED IT!!! If I did that a Jville, I would not be seeing the court for a long, long time. Mtn. Pine needs to take more pride in themselves and realize that they are acting like children.

mossified4

what yall are just mad cause we are winning and no one in the county likes it he did not throw his shotting top in the stands he gave it to his mom and we were not dis respectful we werent even talking crap on the court and they were if anyone was disrespectful it was kirby

PopTart Man

No, I am mad because you guys act like fools. Not all of you, just some. I came to the game pullling for you guys to beat Kirby, but when I left, I had lost respect for Mountain Pine Basketball.

ltb759

Ballhawker,
                     Do I assume correctly that your parting words of "Go Lady Eagles" imply  that you are a supporter of CMS? If so your one to talk about another schools fans need to be reprimanded!


Ballhawker

I will say this.........A school doesn't have much control over the fans, unless they get too unruly, but they certainly have and should most definitely have control of their coach and the players on the team.  MP obviously does not have that control.  Jesse Slick and Lee Scroggins are our coaches, and they would never let their kids act the way MP does. 

bballwatcher

February 14, 2006, 01:23:17 pm #8 Last Edit: February 14, 2006, 01:29:14 pm by bballwatcher
The coach has no control over the fans so why are you slammin him?!  It's sad when jville fans resort to bad mouthing a coach because they're jealous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW What exactly did the coach do that was SO embarrasing to watch - how did he himself misrepresent 5AA specifically?
I go to ALOT of games where coaches are throwing things, pulling of jackets, ties,etc., stomping & cursing, etc.
You telling me Castleberry is the ONLY coach that gets excited?

mossified4

Quote from: Ballhawker on February 14, 2006, 01:03:23 pm
I will say this.........A school doesn't have much control over the fans, unless they get too unruly, but they certainly have and should most definitely have control of their coach and the players on the team. MP obviously does not have that control. Jesse Slick and Lee Scroggins are our coaches, and they would never let their kids act the way MP does.

terry hacker does worse than any one in the county hes the wrost

sears34

Marty wonders why he is 0 for 3 when applying for any coaching job at Jessieville. J-ville school officials know what comes with the little fella. Obviously he buys into the whole bush league perspective. I love a coach who will get into a shouting match with Bob Wisener during the middle of a game. Class!!!!!!!!!!!! Why would Jessieville be jealous of anything Mountain Pine has.

Dave Chapelle did do a good job containing Kirby's guards. He was deffinitely all over the place.  Comedian,Actor, and now Mtn. Pine Defensive Specialist.

bballwatcher

Quote from: sears34 on February 14, 2006, 02:05:46 pm
Marty wonders why he is 0 for 3 when applying for any coaching job at Jessieville. J-ville school officials know what comes with the little fella. Obviously he buys into the whole bush league perspective. I love a coach who will get into a shouting match with Bob Wisener during the middle of a game. Class!!!!!!!!!!!! Why would Jessieville be jealous of anything Mountain Pine has.

Dave Chapelle did do a good job containing Kirby's guards. He was deffinitely all over the place. Comedian,Actor, and now Mtn. Pine Defensive Specialist.
Funny how he's 0 for 3 when he's only applied twice & that's because jville residents wanted him (begged him to!) - George Foshee's just too dumb to look past his jealousy - Castleberry can out coach Lamb anyday!  Look at yalls last loss to pine - Castleberry definately won that one

beaglenoose

Easy fellas....No need for all the shouting.  Look, Castleberry is a good coach (he's a Jessieville boy).  When he moved Blees (the only poised player on that team) to the middle of Kirby's zone, the Pine just slashed 'm.  Great offensive adjustment.  But look, the sportsmanship thing, how the fans and players act, that's all on administration.  If the superintendent/athletic director/principal feels that the fans are unruley or misrepresenting the district, they take care of it.  It is obvious they let 'em get away with more over there, but they have to.  You would have a riot in MP if anyone forced them to do anything, total resentment.  It's a difference in the kind of people you're dealing with.  No two places have the same DEMOGRAPHIC.

Why are we talking about this anyway, i thought this site was about basketball.  Bottom line, the officiating was terrible both ways, and the Pine looked good.

bballwatcher

Quote from: beaglenoose on February 14, 2006, 02:47:32 pm
Easy fellas....No need for all the shouting. Look, Castleberry is a good coach (he's a Jessieville boy). When he moved Blees (the only poised player on that team) to the middle of Kirby's zone, the Pine just slashed 'm. Great offensive adjustment. But look, the sportsmanship thing, how the fans and players act, that's all on administration. If the superintendent/athletic director/principal feels that the fans are unruley or misrepresenting the district, they take care of it. It is obvious they let 'em get away with more over there, but they have to. You would have a riot in MP if anyone forced them to do anything, total resentment. It's a difference in the kind of people you're dealing with. No two places have the same DEMOGRAPHIC.

Why are we talking about this anyway, i thought this site was about basketball. Bottom line, the officiating was terrible both ways, and the Pine looked good.
Thank You
This isn't about bashing coaches - I just felt Castleberry needed some defending
He & Pine have really taken a bashing on a lot of these posts - I mean look at the title of this one!

Stevo50

I watched Mt Pine vs I think Poyen at last years district tourney.  I'm not from either school, just there watching some good games.  A Mt Pine kid was fouled and was slow to get up.  The crowd was quiet as the coach went to help him up.  The kid who was fouled (assuming) mother stood up at yelled at the Poyen player who committed the foul, "You inbreed mother f.....er"  Then, a man I'm guess his dad, went over and said something to the opposing coach during the middle of the game!  That's my only time to see Mt. Pine, what an impression. 

beaglenoose

Once again, I'm not sure why we are talking about this.  You see people like that everywhere you go, and it does leave a bitter taste in your mouth.  People get worked up about their children, as humans will do.

But listen, let's talk hoops.  How serious do you think this Pine team is?  Legitimate question.  To me, there hasn't been a serious small school state title contender in 15 yrs (Cutter '93).  Seriously, the whole state had their eyes on them that year.  I don't draw a lot of simularities in those two squads, but it has been a long time.  Jessieville has had some very good teams in the last 15 yrs, but my recollection was that serious objective basketball minds never felt that they had enough to even get a sniff, and they proved to be right.

Now, I'm not trying to takeaway from the Pine, but what's the difference in what they're doing this year and what the best small schools in this county have done in recent yrs (maybe the fact that the state is just down the road obviously is a plus).

Someone gimmie some feedback, preferably someone not associated with team/teams involved.

cobra69

1993?   Was there basketball back then?  You need to get a life Jack!!!!   I'm just glad you didn't call last night!  You are the only one in the county that could have made it worse!! 

AR07


mc

I was at the game last night.  I saw Chandler throw his shooting top to a member of his family.  I saw the Kirby coach acting 100 times worse than Mt Pine Coach.  Not saying he was cursing but his body language and screaming made it worse.  Mt Pine's players, other than the incident with Meece talking to Diablo from the bench, kept their kool and played a straight game.  Everything negative I've heard from posts on this boards have come from teams that are going to make a run a Mt Pine for district.  Pines fans are sometimes crazy, but hey I'd rather have a wild crowd than the one I get alot of the times, that is when I play with no crowd.  I attend Magnet Cove and we haven't one in a while, therefore by the time our game starts half the stands are empty.  I was rooting for my pine last night and thought they played spectacular even with Jesse and Chandler out of the game. 
                                                                                     Hunter V.  30

beaglenoose

I apologize, but i don't know what you are talking about.  Sorry for the confusion.  I am  a middle aged man (47 next month, and i probably do need a life) who does consulting work for the state of Arkansas.  I have lived in this area for 22 yrs and am trying to put a new spin on the debate.  Perhaps 15 yrs is too far back. 

I love basketball and watch games when i get the chance.  I think this site is great so keep talking hoops.

I take it this Jack is up there on par with the officials from last night.

sears34

BBallwatcher, Marty has applied three times. He applied when Crowder left, Buckaloo, then Smith.... 0 for 3. 
Thanks for playing... sack! What  are you even talking about our last loss. I am not even from Jessieville. I was just making an general, but obvious statement. I assume you hail from the Pine, and I would just like to commend you guys on what a town you have put together!!! It was my first time there. While were at it ,Sweet Senior night as well. I guess the P.A. didn't work, or it has not been figured out that it can be used for other things as well as announcing players. Good job Mountain Pine, you really remind us why you are the stepchild. 

bballwatcher

Quote from: sears34 on February 14, 2006, 06:20:48 pm
BBallwatcher, Marty has applied three times. He applied when Crowder left, Buckaloo, then Smith.... 0 for 3.
Thanks for playing... sack! What are you even talking about our last loss. I am not even from Jessieville. I was just making an general, but obvious statement. I assume you hail from the Pine, and I would just like to commend you guys on what a town you have put together!!! It was my first time there. While were at it ,Sweet Senior night as well. I guess the P.A. didn't work, or it has not been figured out that it can be used for other things as well as announcing players. Good job Mountain Pine, you really remind us why you are the stepchild.
He did not officially apply when Smith left - Jville called him
He never applied
Thank You for playing -sack


Football_Han_D_Cap

February 14, 2006, 11:37:34 pm #22 Last Edit: February 15, 2006, 05:47:28 am by Football_Han_D_Cap
Both Mountain Pine's Coach and Jessieville's Coach are what they are. Both have been around long enough to win a game where their team has more talented players than the opponent. Neither coach is going to out coach anyone and pull one out for his team. Before the Jessieville fans get started with a defense for their coach, please take into consideration that for the past several years the Lions have taken a gaudy record into the Regional and State Tournaments. Each year their season is abruptly halted by some team that is ranked lower than them and doesn't have as good of a record as Jessieville. When the faithful at Jessieville get tired of their highly ranked, unchallenged team bowing out to teams with less talent, they will find a coach that will push the Lions to the next level and be a legitimate contender for a State Championship. There isn't any reason that Jessieville shouldn't be on the same level, program-wise as the other great AA programs in the state (B.I.C., etc.). If the Jessieville folks are happy with a lot of wins against the Fourche Valley's and Centerpoint's of the world and quick exits of the post season then stay with the status quo. 

As for Mt. Pine- When you have no more control over your student-athletes than what has been mentioned in other posts - there is hardly any behavior that I would put past them. Evidently there is a lack of respect for the coach's orders or he must condone their actions. Otherwise this type of stuff would have happened once (maybe) and it would have never happened again. A team's personality is a direct extension of the coach. A coach that puts a win above the character and dignity of his program or is scared to discipline a player is worthless.

ballin2520

I think everyone needs to get over their jealousy of Mtn. Pine, they are a good team with a good coach and they did not act any different at the Kirby game than they have all year. What was said to Diablo was not good but the kid is being punished for it. I think that how mtn pine celebrates makes everyone angry but wouldn't you celebrate to if your teams record was     23-1?

Redwingedfreak

Beaglenoose, CMS had some good teams in the early '90's but as a member of the '97 Jessieville team that went 29-5 I feel that our team and the team after that went 28-6 were definately conenders, seeing as how in '97 we were ranked #2 when we player #1 Valley Springs in the State Tourny.  Ark. Bap. won the title that year, and their only loss to a team in their Class was to us in the final of the Regional.   Ranked as high as #2 in the State, the only Class A (at the time) team to beat the eventual State Champs, Ouchita Tourny Champs, Plainview Tourny Champs, 5A South Conference Champs, Regional Champs... I'd say we were contenders...  We also beat several teams in higher classifications that year including Ft. Lake (was a AAA STate Tourny team) and HS Lakeside.  I don't know what else a team would need to do to be considered a "contender?"

Jealousy for Mt. Pine?  I don't think so, when you have two rivals as competitive as J-ville and Mt. Pine it's going to get heated.  But jealousy, no.  We are proud to be a part of the program that Coach Lamb as resurected at J-ville and I wouldn't trade our success for anything or anyone.  Good Luck, the real season has just begun...

Redwingedfreak

Also, didn't Poyen go undefeated a few years ago... I'd say that was contending.

mossified4

yes they won so i dont know what he is talking about

Redwingedfreak


mossified4

Quote from: jville#33 on February 14, 2006, 11:35:20 am
It was terrible. One player threw his warm up top into the stands, the coach IGNORED IT!!! If I did that a Jville, I would not be seeing the court for a long, long time. Mtn. Pine needs to take more pride in themselves and realize that they are acting like children.
when was the last time you saw the court anyway

bballer_85

"A coach that puts a win above the character and dignity of his program or is scared to discipline a player is worthless." by:Football_Han_D
~thank you for that... like I said in my first post of this topic...we've gotten away from sportsmanship!!  Time to turn back

*OK kids, lets pull our gloves off and get back to the business at hand - this is not a slap fest OR a whine session - fact of the matter is that Jessieville and Mtn. Pine ARE rivals, get over it. Or rather get on with it!  Rivalry is good for a couple of things; it promotes competition and strengths.  Rivalry in basketball plays on the other teams weaknesses and opposes their strengths in order to make themselves a better team.  If Pine and Jville played like these posts, it would be a ugly game where the only winners would be the State Police because apparently, that's where it would end up. 
Fact: Coach Castleberry has applied several times for JVille, but for whatever reason (and I can tell you for sure that SOME JVIlle people wanted him, some did not....he wasn't begged!!!) he wasn't chosen and men from outside of the area came into the position.  Could you think outside of the box for a minute and guess what would the posts be if he were at Jessieville?  Talk about "home cooking!"
Coach Lamb and Coach Castleberry are where they need to be right NOW - coaching makes up only a part of the players ability to play a game well.  The rest is up to the TEAM.

Now boys (or girls) - saddle up your ponies and lets play some ball!

Good luck to EVERYONE in their respective District Tournaments!  ...and God bless America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Redwingedfreak

Aren't rivalries great?  They make everything interesting, there is always someone there to keep you on your toes... at heart a rivalry must be comprised of two programs that respect each other as much as they hate each other, I'm a Lion and I want both teams to win every game until we play Mt. Pine.  I've played in this rivalry, I know all the crap that goes on (on both sides) and I love it.  I've accomplished a lot in my life so far and I still look back fondly on the times we played, the players on this board are just continuing the tradition.

Go Lions!

beaglenoose

Redwingedfreak,

Thanks for the input.  Hard to argue that last post.  How do you think this current Pine team compares to the Jessieville Team you refer to or any other school from the past.  I don't mean could you beat this team, but do they display similar capabilities to those late 90's j'ville teams. 

The point I was wanting to make in my last post was that the general consensus around the state in '93 was that Cutter would take it all.  They were the favorite in peoples minds statewide the whole year (Maybe cause the Democrat fed the fire, but they were good).  I think those Jessieville teams were considered contenders but not necessarily favorites.   

That brings up a simularity.  the '93 Cutter team went 33-0 until the finals where they suffered their only loss.  What's the Pine now, 23-1?  Very similar, though i could not comment on CMS schedule from that year.  Can anyone else?



beaglenoose

Redwingedfreak and Mossified,

Sorry, I told you i was just a casual fan.  Yes Poyen went undefeated, I do remember.  I should have said something, but I'm referring Garland County schools.  I know Poyen is a part of your league, but they move in and out to others don't they?  I can tell this board is full of Jessieville and Mtn. Pine alums/students, so I was limiting the discussiion to more local teams, like MP, Jville, CMS, even FL, cause I know that is someone you play every year. 

I've learned that there is a lot of tradition in this area, I'm sure most of you have grown up with it.

Rivalries are great, without them, it would just be another game, not the one that you mark on your calenders and look forward to all season.

baller99

Jville #33 do you honesty think you was for Mountain Pine. No your just mad because Mountain Pine beat y'all twice. Then you say about you losting  your respect for Mountain Pine. Well we don't need your respect! Now on the chandler throwing his warm up, he did throw it up in the stands to Todd mom but that last call was stupid and anyone would of got mad over it. Then you talk about if you did, you would be on the bench(Well you don't have to worry about that one because your always on the bench)

bballer_85

moss and baller99 - you boys need to step back and reajust your undies!
Jville#33 hasn't done anything but stated his opinion which he is intitled to - if you don't like what he posts, don't read it!!!!
Move along......


BUT NEVER FORGET~
*41-40 State Playoffs - Jessieville wins!!! Jessieville wins!!!!*

Redwingedfreak

I can't really comment on how this years Mt. Pine team stacks up to the team I played on in '97 or the CMS team from '93 because I haven't seen them play this year, I live in Little Rock and I haven't been able to find the time to get to a game, but that being said (you can take this with a grain of salt) the '93 team from CMS was darn good, and if I remember correctly didn't they lose in the final because they missed a lay-up at the end of the game or something like that?  Anyway, that team was very good and I can't imagine any small school team from Garland Co. being better than they were (didn't they have a guy that played at Kansas?).  But you have to be good to compile a record of 23-1, so I'm not taking anything away from this years Mt. Pine team so I can't say who was better, all I know is that they are a good team to be considered among the better teams from this conference in the recent era.  But I do feel that the overall talent in the conference isn't as strong as it has been in recent years, except for Jessieville and Mt. Pine, and that is probably why more people don't know much about the programs.
Living in Little Rock I can tell you that Mt. Pine isn't a favorite around here but that's probably because the Democrat doesn't do a real good job with Class AA basketball coverage anymore and unless you are from around there you probably don't know what's going on in AA.  I had to come to this site to get most of my info.  All these questions will be answered shortly though, so we'll just have to wait and see.

ltb759

Nobody off of the 93 CMS squad played at Kansas. I think you may be mixing up T.J. Whatley from Glen Rose who played at KU

Redwingedfreak

are you sure, i think he walked on?  I could be wrong, anyway that was a good team.

Ballhawker

This wasn't meant to be a "who's a better coach?", or "whose  team is better than whose?".  My point was simple.  I think that coach Castleberry allows his kids to show too much negative emotion (most of the time its toward officials and opponents' fans) during their games.  Everyone knows that Jesse McDorman gets, or has gotten, many technical fouls in his career.  Everyone knows that several kids in Castleberry's career have gotten technicals, or even been thrown out of games.  And each time, Castleberry defends them and makes excuses  as to why the kid got the technical.  Bottom line....he allows them to act a certain way, and most coaches don't.  Most coaches with "good, consistant programs" are that way because they have discipline.  In my opinion, he doesn't have it there.  I think he's more interested in winning than having his kids represent themselves, their school, and their community in a way in which I think it should be.  All this is my opinion, and that's what this board allows.

mossified4

February 16, 2006, 11:57:45 am #39 Last Edit: February 16, 2006, 12:27:57 pm by mossified4
Quote from: bballer_85 on February 16, 2006, 09:15:50 am
moss and baller99 - you boys need to step back and reajust your undies!
Jville#33 hasn't done anything but stated his opinion which he is intitled to - if you don't like what he posts, don't read it!!!!
Move along......
we were also stating our opinion along with proven facts and if you dont like it dont read heed your own advice


PopTart Man

Quote from: mossified4 on February 15, 2006, 12:55:34 pm
Quote from: jville#33 on February 14, 2006, 11:35:20 am
It was terrible. One player threw his warm up top into the stands, the coach IGNORED IT!!! If I did that a Jville, I would not be seeing the court for a long, long time. Mtn. Pine needs to take more pride in themselves and realize that they are acting like children.
when was the last time you saw the court anyway

Ok mossy, how many starts do you have. I promise you that I have more starts than you have times that you have even got to THINK about touching the court. You have no room to talk. Darko Milicic gets more PT than you.

mossified4

Quote from: jville#33 on February 16, 2006, 12:22:34 pm
Quote from: mossified4 on February 15, 2006, 12:55:34 pm
Quote from: jville#33 on February 14, 2006, 11:35:20 am
It was terrible. One player threw his warm up top into the stands, the coach IGNORED IT!!! If I did that a Jville, I would not be seeing the court for a long, long time. Mtn. Pine needs to take more pride in themselves and realize that they are acting like children.
when was the last time you saw the court anyway

Ok mossy, how many starts do you have. I promise you that I have more starts than you have times that you have even got to THINK about touching the court. You have no room to talk. Darko Milicic gets more PT than you.
ive probably seen the court since you have and what does darco have any thing to do with this and you were not for us at any point in that game the other night but any way good luck tonight against cutter maybe you will get another shot at us and if so good luck then to

ltb759

Meseke, E.Slick, Andry, Buford, Dixon, Acker were I think the starting 5 and 6th man that year. None of them went Rock Chalk Jayhawk.

bballwatcher

Quote from: Ballhawker on February 16, 2006, 11:48:02 am
This wasn't meant to be a "who's a better coach?", or "whose team is better than whose?". My point was simple. I think that coach Castleberry allows his kids to show too much negative emotion (most of the time its toward officials and opponents' fans) during their games. Everyone knows that Jesse McDorman gets, or has gotten, many technical fouls in his career. Everyone knows that several kids in Castleberry's career have gotten technicals, or even been thrown out of games. And each time, Castleberry defends them and makes excuses as to why the kid got the technical. Bottom line....he allows them to act a certain way, and most coaches don't. Most coaches with "good, consistant programs" are that way because they have discipline. In my opinion, he doesn't have it there. I think he's more interested in winning than having his kids represent themselves, their school, and their community in a way in which I think it should be. All this is my opinion, and that's what this board allows.
Then why did he kick a player off several years ago right before the Regional finals(which they did not win b/c of loosing this player) b/c a player was being disrespectful (pulled his jersey off when he fouled out).  You all tend to only remember the negatives!  Yes - he does have some attitudes on the team - but everyone around will agree that Castleberry has gotten Jesse to calm down ALOT this year!!

beaglenoose

ltb your right, T.J. Whatley of Glet Rose walked on at Kansas.  I think possibly played on scholarship his last year.  That CMS team had a couple of kids that played collegiately, Meseke (OBU) and Slick (CBC). 

Sorry we're getting off the subject.

Castleberry is known for letting kids go.  Does anyone remember the 2004 regional at Jessieville.  MP had AB by the throat first half.  Then McDorman picks up his third foul (terrible call by the way, but that's how it goes) and proceeds to lose it.  Picks up T on the floor (deserved it too, no matter how bad the call was) so that's 4 fouls.  Castleberry says not a word to McDorman, who he does at least get out of the game, but immediately as play starts, McDorman apparantley has one more thing to say, gets another T which sends him to the dressing room.  Needless to say MP couldn't hang on, and it was a shame.  They were a bigtime sleeper that year, that no one was looking out for.  I really liked that bunch,  and think they were just as good as the pine team now.  I can't remember the seniors names on that team, but i thought they were solid.

When regionals/ and state get here, that is the one adjustment i think that the Pine will have to make; controlling their mood.

Right or wrong no official is going to listen to that for very long, and that is just the way it is.  I think if Mtn. Pine can find some composure they can make a deep run.  Get caught up in thinking your getting screwed, and it'll be a short trip.

Mossified, this is just an opinion, so don't hate on me.

A lot of things have to happen to win a state championship. 

Whomever represents our regional i think its safe to say that all of us will be pullin for them.  I always like to see our local teams do well, so good luck to all.

bballwatcher

Quote from: beaglenoose on February 16, 2006, 01:18:02 pm

Castleberry is known for letting kids go.

Again - Only remembering the negatives.
So if he's such a horrible coach, why has he been there 20 years & won more than any other coach there?

bballer_85

I'm glad that you pine guys want to show your support for your school and for you coach, that's a positive thing you've got going.  I think that's called school spirit....
I think it's entirely possible for someone from a rival school to go to a game and support the rivial team- they may not yell for that team, but they've paid their entry money to watch, that IS a form of support.  I happen to know that some of the JVILLE guys (one in particular...maybe more) have relatives on the pine team and they DO support family.  Nothing weird about giving props where props are due - and along with that comes the negative when negativity is shown.  It's not jealousy fo' sure!!

GOOD LUCK IN DISTRICT EAGLES< LIONS<DEVILS & whoever else is still there... OH YEAH< PANTHERS, too (sorry if I missed someone!

Redwingedfreak

Quote from: ltb759 on February 16, 2006, 12:47:38 pm
Meseke, E.Slick, Andry, Buford, Dixon, Acker were I think the starting 5 and 6th man that year. None of them went Rock Chalk Jayhawk.

Ok, you're right... I don't know what I was thinking.  Thanks for the info.  but it was Eddie Slick that missed the shot right?  or am I just dreaming that up too?

beaglenoose

Yeah, Slick missed the shot.

Nobody said that Castleberry isn't a good coach.  Quite the contrary, i think on a previous post i mentioned that him moving Blees to the high post during the Kirby game was a brilliant offensive adjustment, couldn't gaurd the smaller faster player.

This thread i thought was about attitudes.  I've been reminded of that in a recent post. Listen, this has been long time coming, McDorman and company have been right there, and now is their time.  There a little over the top, but they know they are the best around here this year, and they havn't been afraid to say so. 

All that is in the past now, though.  This is a new season.  Can't wait to watch.

By the way, heard 5AA South District finals are moved to friday night?  Can anyone confirm?


Redwingedfreak

Slick was a helluva player...

The word I've heard is that it's been moved to avoid any weather problems, same as 5AA North.

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